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Spencer Pratt On What Fame, Loss, & Starting Over Taught Him About Power And Truth
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Lauryn Evarts
The following podcast is a Dear Media Production. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire.
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Michael Bostic
Fantastic.
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Spencer Pratt
And he's a serial entrepreneur, a very smart cookie.
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Lauryn Evarts
And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic.
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Spencer Pratt
Are bringing you along for the ride.
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Heather
Get ready for some major realness.
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Lauryn Evarts
Welcome to the Skinny Confidential, him and her.
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Spencer Pratt
Hello everybody.
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Lauryn Evarts
Welcome back to another episode of the Skinny Confidential him and her show. Today we have our friend Spencer Pratt on the podcast. He is a fan favorite for many reasons. Spencer Pratt is reality TV's original villain and an icon of millennial fame culture. Best known for the Hills, he continues to evolve as a media personality, appearing on Celebrity Big Brother, the Hills, New Beginnings and going viral on TikTok for his crystal Halls hummingbird obsessions, absurd burrito stunts and raw documentation of his family's hiring experience during the Pacific Palisades wildfire. This brings him to the episode today because he has been extremely outspoken about some of the pitfalls that are going on in la, some of his concerns around the leadership in the city and what really happened to him when his family house in the fires that devastated California. He also is now running for the mayor of la, which he talks about and has a new book coming out called the Guy youy Love to Hate. Lauren and I really enjoyed the book. In any case, we always enjoy talking to Spencer. He's one of those guys you could sit back, put a piece of hay in your tooth and just really let him go. Never short for words, always up to something, always exciting with that. Spencer Pratt. Welcome to the Skinny Confidential, him and her show.
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Spencer Pratt
This is the Skinny Confidential. Him and her.
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Lauryn Evarts
Everyone's aware of the fires and the horrific mess that occurred here in LA and like but like from your perspective, walk us through what happened and where you're at. Obviously like we know the fire happened but to you personally, your house, this the insurance like what's house too what's going like when you say you can't rebuild your house like why so before.
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Spencer Pratt
The fires all the insurance companies were well aware that the state of California had created such a dangerous condition for the Pacific palaces by letting 50 years of dead brush or fuel is what the like firefighters are going surround the Palisades all the way up to the backyards of people's houses. So they sent an email out, you know farmers, state Farm, everyone to almost everyone in the Palisades. Just the email was like due to GPS of extreme fire has a good were no longer covering you. There are senior citizens that were paying insurance for like 40, 50 years that got dropped January 1st, that didn't re up because it's holidays and they're old people not moving that fast. That then January 7th lost everything and had zero insurance because the insurance companies.
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Lauryn Evarts
Knew in advance that it was highly risk and that it was a matter of time before this was a tenure box.
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Spencer Pratt
Anyone with a brain, you know, also they say it's unprecedented. There was a fire in policies in 2019, 2021. The Malibu Fire just happened. You know, they, they say that when it's not unprecedented, it's, it's, you know. So the other thing is everybody like myself who were like, oh my God, I got to get on some new insurance. What covers us. We all got stuck with California Fair Plan, which my problem is I assumed it was, you know, the lesson as an adult is also it's all you had. So it is what it is. You take what you do. But I was way too confident because I cut everything I was supposed to to get California Fair Plan around the yard and get on that. So California Fair Plan maxes out at $3 million. Even if your house is a 9 million dollar house, just, you know, people will be like, these people are rich. My parents probably bought their house for $500,000 and just property values over time, it was probably worth $10 million.
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Lauryn Evarts
Is this the house you grew up in as a kid?
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Spencer Pratt
Yes.
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Michael Bostic
I want the audience to know this because you said this on Juicy Scoop. Your parents had all your stuff in your room, your collectible, everything, like organized, really sweet. I think that's an important part.
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Spencer Pratt
Time capsule. Everything I've ever owned was just you could walk into my room and it was exactly like when I went off to college. And so everything I had in that life and then my life as an adult, everything burned. So I say it all the time. I don't have anything that wasn't when Cloud started. You know, I don't even know what iPhone level that was like maybe iPhone 7. So my parents didn't get one item out of their house. My mom didn't even get her passports. She didn't take a go back because the idea of my parents house burning at the bottom of the Palisades next to the ocean is impossible to believe. So the California Fair Plan that maxes out at 3 million on our 2500 square foot house. We had a million to policy. Well, here's where it gets interesting. The city of LA now requires for me to build on my exact spot where my house was. I need to put 1.2 to like 1 point, maybe 4 million in caissons that were not there. So now they care about how I build, even though in court they say they have no responsibility if my house burns down. So the same city that's saying, oh, we'll let your house burn down, that's not our responsibility cares about how my foundation is. So I don't have the money to put a million two in cement down to the bottom before you even start.
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Lauryn Evarts
Before you start the rest anything, before.
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Spencer Pratt
You even lay on top of that, just that's how much to go down to the bedrock. So that's happening to a lot of people that even had fairplan because we're all on hills. And these houses all were built a long time ago. Also, my house was probably 50 years old. How many earthquakes did it survive? It survived the big one. So if it's a earthquake, and again, you don't care if it. My house gets destroyed. If there was earthquakes, why do you care how I build it? So it's things like that. So that's what I've been really trying to fight, is trying to get executive orders in Washington that, like, wipe out these rules that now these rebuilds have to be up to these codes that the initial house that burned down didn't have. But they don't want to do that because how much money do they make off that million, too?
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Lauryn Evarts
So what do you. What do you think with everything you've learned and uncovered and the things that people have been sending you, which, by the way, like, I've DMed you and have sent you a few, like, I love what you're doing. What are you. What do you think the reason for all of this is why they're behaving this way, why the policy is set? This, like, what do you, like, if you were to fast track 20 years from now, what do you think will happen if they. If these people get their way?
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Spencer Pratt
I mean, it's not even a conspiracy. Like, when it first happened, everyone was like, it's Maui. It's a land grab. It's laser beams. I was like, people are nuts. They would never want the Palisades to burn down. This is a. Like, there's so much tax money. They get out. And then I find out, oh, wait, no, it's people like my parents who, their house is worth $10 million because of property values, but they're paying property taxes from the 1980s. So they actually, the state that's broke, the city that's broke, are going to make so much more money when they rebuild all these mansions that are you know, in eight to nine years are going to be worth 12 million with 20, 20, 32, you know, whatever the.
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Lauryn Evarts
Math is like future tax revenue exponentially grows.
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Spencer Pratt
That first off, not to mention the amount of like developers that are all part of this system, they come in, you know, I don't want to name names but I know of developers that are just buying up blocks, buying up already publicly 40% of the dirt lots people's houses are being bought by developers, not families trying to come back in, not other fire victims that are oh maybe so that's just money. So let's say they're going to make minimum $30 billion off of the policies on like just a low ball, you know, I bet it's so much more.
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Michael Bostic
When that was happening to your house, you said you didn't even think of your parents house because it was by the ocean where you just focused on figuring out what you were going to.
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Heather
Do with your own house.
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Spencer Pratt
So right when the fire starts, Heidi packs up like the kids diapers and stuff for an overnight to go to my parents house. She drove down to like that was the safe house, like to be safe. My parents house was 120 years old and my dad paid for insurance for however many 30 years, whatever he was there for. And then in December when everyone got dropped, he didn't re up to California fair plan because he said to my mom in December the whole entire Palisades would have to burn for our house to burn. Like it didn't make. Which he's not wrong. And nobody, you know, I was too caught up feeding hummingbirds and selling crystals to not see the writing was on, on the wall to the point where I was subconsciously I knew because every day Heidi made me go on a hike with the kids even though I didn't want to. And I'm hiking these state park trails and. And I was like, I'm like what is this? Just dead bushes everywhere, just dried. And I was always saying like this is, you know, my head. I just didn't understand that the federal government gives Newsom all this money to actually get rid of all this. And he doesn't, he uses that money. And that's going to be the big investigation that I'm part of with the congressional investigation to really find where all the money to clear all these state parks that the feds gave Newsom where it went to because they didn't.
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Lauryn Evarts
Here's where I have some understanding. You know, we grew up in San Diego. When we were younger, we're not from la but we're down there. Remember when there's the fires in Escondido. Escondido and in Del Dios and all that. And the big issue then was the same thing. It's like, why do they never clear the brush? And they also didn't create fire trails or paths for the firefighters to get up into these areas to clean anything out or to fight the fires, even if they happen. Right. So we were talking about this because in high school and in college, again talking about unprecedented, like this has not just been happening in la, it's all of Southern California, they've had this issue and we would see that and we would. I remember we would talk about it and say, why are there not ways for these guys to get up and fight these fires in the first place? Like, it's just a total mess. So that's why everything goes up in flames.
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Spencer Pratt
I'll tell you why. Because California has environmentalists, this carb. And the governor actually selects these people so he can't be like, oh, it's an out, you know. You know. So yes, it's its own entity, but he's involved in who goes and carbs. So the idea of carb is they don't want to do prescribed burns on which like Florida does 2 million acres a year.
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Lauryn Evarts
You know, I think Texas does them too.
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Spencer Pratt
So every. The Native Americans survived in the Palisades by doing that. Like this is the history of California. Was prescribed bourbon, but carb doesn't want to do that because they don't want smoke in there. Do you know what burned in the Palisades? Thousand electric vehicles. The person across the street from me, he had a whole entire Tesla wall. Do you know what that fire did to the environment versus prescribed burns? And they also, which we now in our lawsuit against the state, they care more about the plants than people. They have secret maps that the firefighters aren't even allowed to keep. They'll show them, but you can't. And it's in their own manual. This isn't made up. This is in their manual. Do not give anyone the secret maps. And the secret maps show all the protected plants in the state park. I never even heard of what milk vetch is. So milk vetch is why 12 people burned alive in 7,000 structures because they're not allowed to come clean up the milk vetch. So there are all these people fighting for plants. Where are the people fighting for a human beings? Let's go to mountain lions, lizards, snakes, hummingbirds, God knows, you know, frickin everything. Everything that burned alive in 25,000 acres. Then all the milk fetch is gone. So all they would have had to do. I've talked to so many experts, okay, like real, not the propaganda experts. For $500,000 max, I was also told it could have been 300,000. They could have made a fire break surrounding the Palisades. Yes, some milk vetch would have been cleared, but it would have given time a for the firefighters to get up there, as they would say, dig in and have a chance. And it wouldn't just go right into these houses. And now it's. Now they're fighting house to house. So that's the biggest thing is this. This idea of these state park people. And then we go back to where it actually started. So people think the fire started on January 7, the Palisades fire started on January 1 on New Year's Eve on the site Lockman at Skull Rock and Newsom. And everyone will say it's because of this arsonist. Right now, the arsonist case from that generation is falling apart because they now have no evidence, allegedly, that even connects this guy to being up on the trail. They have like 34 witnesses that said they saw fireworks up there on New Year's Eve. So the idea of the arsonist started is even going to crumble. But here's where it gets crazy. That one, that was eight acres, okay, they go up there, the firefighters, and they put it out. But that night, when the firefighters get here, there's a state park representative telling them with the secret maps where they can't put dozers to come. You know, dozers like a bulldozer with like a special thing on front that clears all this. Deb Rush versus guys with chainsaws picking things up. And so they say, you can't have dozers up there. And this is a true thing because ladwp, when they put in a power line, you can Google this, the state of California, and they cleared some brush, some milk vetch, they find the city $1.9 million for killing those state sued LADWP for like fixing a power. So this is a known thing that they will sue the fire department, they'll sue the city. They'll sue if you come mess with their vetch. So here's where it gets crazy. After they put it out, it's obviously still smoldering. These firefighters that have reached out to me that now can't talk because of this new law firm shutting them up in their depositions, but did come to me with these stories told the fire chief, the Battalion chief, hey, we can't leave this. It's still smoldering. And he said, pull the hose. Which. The hoses they brought up there. The last fire in the Palisades, they left the hoses there for 18 months. They pulled the hoses within two days. We have drone footage on January 2nd of the whole hill just smoking. There's 911 calls of people saying, hey, the hill's smoking the state park. In their manual, it's their legal responsibility to close the state park, make sure there's no dangerous condition for people in the park or in the community next to it. They didn't do that. Their other manual rule says they need to monitor if there was an incident. Did they monitor? We now know the state park lady in her deposition said, oh, yeah, I saw it still smoldering. And I took a photo. And they. And then our lawyer said, what did you do? She's like, nothing. I'm not a firefighter. Can you imagine? You see, like, you're just walking. You see something smoldering, you take a photo and just go about your day. And even if that's not your job.
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Lauryn Evarts
You'Re still going to let somebody know.
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Spencer Pratt
You let somebody know. So they. Here's where it gets even crazier. There's an extreme wind event coming. Tweeting about it. The States, the city everyone's talking about.
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Lauryn Evarts
We flew in that day, by the way, and we got rerouted. And I didn't know was funny enough, we were sitting here interviewing Tony Robbins, of all people, looking out the window, being like, what the fuck's going on over there? It was. The winds were nuts that day.
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Spencer Pratt
So they knew three days, four days that this was coming, and they're tweeting about it. So Karen Bass knows this, the mayor, she flies to Ghana to talk about opening the Ghana Consulate in la. Which, don't get me started on that.
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Michael Bostic
You know, because almost like a reality.
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Spencer Pratt
Show, you can't make this up. Also, like, what's the point of having ambassadors? I always thought ambassadors do. Like, you go get the crack, Fentanyl people off the streets. You don't go to Ghana, okay? We have Ghana here. Okay? You don't need to go there. So she's in Ghana. They know it's coming. She denies that she knew that. Nobody told her. First off, you. The fact that you're saying nobody told you, like, you better get your own phone. Then you know, we know she has her own phone because all her messages she deleted. So. So maybe on those texts, she was like, oh, I'm still going to gone. I don't care about the extreme wind. So they know there's this extreme wind. They know there was a fire in the fire hazard area where all the insurance companies just drop people. It's not like, like Gavin Newsom's like, we redeployed all these assets. Not one fire fighter, fire engine, anything was pre deployed to the Palisades leading up to that wind event, knowing January 1st, January 2nd, there was a fire to the point it's still smoking. On the side of the.
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Lauryn Evarts
What are these firefighters saying to you privately? Like, what is the general sentiment from these guys? Cause I imagine like they just feel so discouraged and upset about a lot of this because their hands are tied to a lot of cases.
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Spencer Pratt
You know, it was so hard for me to, you know, Cause I'm so deep in it to not be like, they're cowards, come out, tell the truth. But then you go to the human part. You're like, they have families, they risk retaliation. They got to see Chief Crowley said that she told the mayor that there was the wind. Boom, fired. She gets fired. So they're doing that to the chief. So you have. They're watching this cover up with this after action report where another chief says, take my name off of that after action report because the mayor's office cooked it up and changed all his thing. So they're seeing the higher level, what they're up against. So, you know, obviously I've had, you know, at least one tell me it weighs on his soul that he didn't do more that day. But the way the fire. It's a military command structure. He did his job. Even though you could argue like I do in my head, well, you should have just called 911, you know, like, and be like, hello, you know, is my cheat, you know, like I play all these things in my head. But is anybody, is he going to risk his job? Who knows what's going to. But that's my takeaway. If you really are seeing. I also do this in my head. If these firefighters, if that was their family's house to the right of this hill, what's it? How does this situation go different? Do they. Do they walk away? Do they pull hoses or do they make a stand because it's their family down the hill? I don't know. Those are all the things I do in my head.
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Lauryn Evarts
But the other thing that I think was challenging for the Palisades, specifically at a national level is it was a weird thing to watch this and watch Some of the reactions in the country where there was, like, very little sympathy for a lot of people that don't live here. They're like, oh, it's a bunch of rich people that just lost everything. Too bad for them, especially with the politically charged environment. Like, too bad blue state. Like, there was even people like, oh, kind of deserve that this happened. Like, I saw a lot of that. And again, like, I am no fan of some of the policies in California, hence, people know I live in Texas. But I felt that was unfair because, again, as somebody who's familiar with this place, it's not just rich people. It's not just wealthy, but there's generational families that have been here for a very long time. To your point, elderly people, children that got uprooted from schools. Like, it's a very traumatic and traumatizing event that happened to people. But the headline was rich famous people in Palisades. And it's like, oh, whatever, they got another house or they could just pay for it.
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Spencer Pratt
Like that.
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Lauryn Evarts
Did you feel that way?
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Spencer Pratt
Oh, I fight that every day. And what people don't get is like, there was two mobile home parks on right there on pch. They're gone. Those people cannot come back because there's a loophole. Even if they wanted to after, like a fire or whatever, the owner of that land doesn't even. They're not even. They don't have any rights to rebuild. So the argument of, like, oh, whatever the ritual. People aren't even fighting for the affordable housing that was there. They can't even come back. So, I mean, there was condos, there was apartments.
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Michael Bostic
We know someone that had a store there for like 40 years.
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Heather
It was.
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Michael Bostic
He's a little old man, 85 years old. He had a little health food store and it burned down and he. He had to go to a homeless shelter.
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Lauryn Evarts
Like, they found him in a shelter.
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Michael Bostic
So many different stories like that. But even if my thing is even. Let's just say it was all rich people. I don't. Well, I don't understand the energy of saying, oh, like, good. Like, that's.
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Spencer Pratt
It was a weird moment.
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Lauryn Evarts
I felt it was like a.
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Spencer Pratt
It's not a moment. It's still. I fight daily. Like, this is.
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Lauryn Evarts
It's just. I think it's a sad state of where we've. Where we've reached as a country. Again, like a politically charged, like, it was like this thing. It was like almost like that's what you get type of narrative. And I didn't. I thought it was like a Little bit shameful.
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Spencer Pratt
Well, I fight it all the time because always people say, well, that's what you voted for. And I go back to, I don't care what your political party is. Nobody votes for people to burn alive. Nobody votes to. For criminal negligence where you lose your house. You know that they didn't vote for that. So that's actually not true. You can say, well, that's, you know, then they go, they go off on that. Well, they go, well, you did vote for dei. So then that becomes a piece of it because there are people involved now in the. All across the board that. And I've talked to the head of the fire union, Freddie Escobar, and he's like, yes, a lot of people got jobs that shouldn't. So that's where in a sense, if you vote for these people and then they put the wrong people. And that's even as a. You know, that's where I'm like, oh, okay. Kind of got me on that. But nobody deserves nobody. They thought they were being inclusive when they were voting like, oh, China. But the, the best people, no matter if you're lesbian, trans, black, Mexican, white, the best people need to be running emergency services, running your water and power. So it doesn't matter about just trying to include. We just need. That was with Freddie S. Where you just need who's the best.
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Michael Bostic
Maybe you can also explain to the audience, I've heard you talk about it before, what it was like to have your house burned down in your parents house. Like from. From a.
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Spencer Pratt
From.
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Michael Bostic
You had to watch that. That is so traumatizing for your children, for your wife, for your parents. I mean, it's horrible.
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Spencer Pratt
The positive of thinking my dad was burning alive is that like, as I was watching my security cameras and watching my house burn live, I couldn't reach my dad, who I know was at his house surrounded in flames and he wasn't picking up. And the last I talked to him, he's like, I'm gonna fight this. I'm like, dad, leave. And he's like, no, just jump in the pool when the fire comes around. I was like, oh my God, he's already lost. He's, you know, he's smoke inhalation. He's like loopy sounded, you know, he had already, I think had a nervous breakdown leaving my house, seeing it was going to. Going down to his. So as everything was happening, it was such a blessing that I was so concerned about him dying that like brought everything into like, who cares about anything but him? So I, until I Finally talked to him. Hours later, when he got to where his phone was, he could terrify, plug it in. Then I like, could process like, oh, we lost everything. So that was at the peak time. It was a good thing because it was like, okay, everyone's alive at least. But no, it's. And that's why people think, you know, oh, how does. Why does Spencer do all day? Because they all got away with this and they're going to keep getting away with it and they keep lying. So I just channel that feeling you're asking about every day to get justice. Because if somebody doesn't get these people, the least we can do is get them to lose their jobs. And that's why I'm like, I have to be mayor. I can fire all these people.
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Michael Bostic
One thing that I've noticed about you, if you really examine like the thread of your life, is you've always wanted justice. It just in, in, in different areas. Even like with. When you go back to your reality days, like, I feel like you always were a truth teller and you, you're doing almost the same thing that you were doing in an obviously completely different way, but you're still telling truth. Do you feel like that's what you're doing put to do with this fire is tell the truth of what's actually happening under the hood?
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Spencer Pratt
The best part about having to spend two weeks doing the audiobook, I actually like, had to really. It's one thing like working on a book and writing a book, but when you have to, then when it's done, like go through and like almost like monologue it in your head and sometimes do it over and over. And you, you really internalize your existence, how you saw it. And then like, you see everything I went through, like, designed and prepared me for this battle that I have now that I'm like, oh, they're so fucked. You know, like, you know, like they're.
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Lauryn Evarts
No, because if you're gonna get the.
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Spencer Pratt
Aaron Brockovich, I'm like, you don't even know. You're built. You're built for this. And they, and they're naive to not know because like when they threw out like this is in the mayor's office, when I announced her, her campaign person was like, this is the same person that faked his divorce for ratings. I said, oh, you should write, read my book. Because I actually faked my divor divorce after the show to try to help improve my wife's image, not to be connected with me. Some big details that you need to understand who I Actually am. So they need to do their homework and they're going to really realize this isn't like a game for me.
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Lauryn Evarts
Well, people, I think people that are not so familiar with you. And again, like, we've known about you and your career for a long day. I don't think people realize how calculated you are and how thoughtful you are and in your background, correct me if wrong degree in political science or what is your degree in?
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Spencer Pratt
In political science.
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Lauryn Evarts
Yeah. From usc.
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Spencer Pratt
Correct. And Karen. Karen Bass bought hers. There's not. So they go, what's your qualifications? I'm like, well, I didn't buy my degree. It's not fake. You know, it did take me 10 years, but it's.
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Lauryn Evarts
But you didn't, you didn't fall off the back of some melon truck and like land on a reality show. Like, I think people don't realize, like, you produced a lot of stuff, you architected a lot of stuff. You thought. Like, there's, there's. You're a lot more thoughtful than people I think think don't self produce that aren't familiar with you.
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Spencer Pratt
The book is, that's the best part of the book because like, Brody's been out there when he's, when he's on my team, which has been the last, like, good amount of years, he'll go out there and be the witness to like, say, the strategy. From day one, everything was planned. And when you read the book and you really see there was not, you know, obviously it goes off the rocker because once you're going against Jersey Shore and you're trying to just do anything for ratings bonuses, it's like, it looks less strategic. And also when the edit also is not on your team, it doesn't look like a plan. But there's a lot of. Once you read the book, there's so much that I, you know, they bought me off and you know, I did things that, okay, I'll do that for that check. And I'll say, I did that for that check. And so the book will give anybody context to the whole existence of Spencer.
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Michael Bostic
Which, I mean, didn't you. To get on the Hills? Didn't you tell Brody, correct me if I'm wrong, like, we have to go into the club and date these girls to get on the show. Is that right?
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Spencer Pratt
I was way harder than that, you know, but yes, there was a. There's a lot more steps to get. He was also dating Nicole Richie right at that time. So we had to. I had to remove Nicole Richie from the picture to make him available to potential, potentially date Elsie.
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Lauryn Evarts
Did he know you were doing that or did you just.
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Spencer Pratt
100%. Yes.
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Lauryn Evarts
But you had to.
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Spencer Pratt
And so did Nicole.
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Michael Bostic
But you also, you were a producer before that show, on another reality show. So.
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Lauryn Evarts
So your brain goes to like, these are the things that need to happen in order to put me in the position to do this. In order.
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Michael Bostic
Yeah, you're like 10 steps ahead, but you got to do the steps.
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Spencer Pratt
And, you know, and they were all done. I checked all the boxes.
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Michael Bostic
How did you decide what moment to.
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Spencer Pratt
Run for mayor initially? You know, that's why I made the governor shirts. I was thinking more governor because I've been fighting the state so much.
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Michael Bostic
Okay.
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Spencer Pratt
And I was thinking, you know, I'm going to do governor because there's such a bigger thing I can change for the state. And then I started, like, really looking into that process and how much money it takes to run for governor. And I was. I was like, you know what? I need to change LA before I go after the state. I actually.
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Michael Bostic
There he is with his steps, you know, so.
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Spencer Pratt
No, I mean, 100, like, when I'm done with LA, like, because, like I.
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Lauryn Evarts
Keep saying, this is the launch pad.
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Michael Bostic
Yeah. We're gonna see his president, second reality star.
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Spencer Pratt
All I right now is care about is California. Okay. You know, so here's why. Because I don't want to have to move to Texas. And when, if I do have to move to Texas, I want to be on my porch and tell my grandkids, I fought for my city and my state till, like, nothing more I can do and I can feel good on my heart that all these people that lost everything, people have burned alive. I fought to the end for them. But it's the system's too. It's unbreakable. And if I can't do it, then truly, I swear to God, nobody can. Because everybody else has a house, everybody else has a closet. Every. I have nothing. I am fighting to get legit change because I know what the other side. So people troll me right now and they're like, if you're going to run for mayor, you need to dress. I'm like, I had an incredible closet, let me tell you, it all burned. Do you know how much it hurts? Rebuying clothes, rebuying everything. Knowing that tax, sales tax money goes to Karen Bass to launder, to fentanyl addicts, you know, like, it's hard. That's why I wear shirts and they say, Heidi, because I don't have to pay full price. I can get them at cost. So again, when I'm mayor, you know, I'll go to Macy's or Nordstrom and buy some suits at the sales rec.
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Michael Bostic
I want to know the moment you decided you're running for mayor.
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Spencer Pratt
Once I saw that Karen Bass was running again, like first, she should have resigned on January 7, January 8, and even before the fires, when she clearly can, the city is just a disaster. And as it was getting closer to the anniversary and I just felt like there's no hope for anybody. We're seeing the level of COVID ups just continue. These law firms that they're bringing in to just make sure the victims get nothing. I was like, oh, no, I need to. I need to fight this any way I can. And I was like, the only way I can actually do anything is to get rid of these people. And so I was like, done. So maybe, I don't know, just who.
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Lauryn Evarts
Were you hoping would step up? Because I saw in one of your speeches, you said you were waiting for somebody to step up, but they didn't.
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Spencer Pratt
And anyone, anyone. You know, there's a lot of people that have a lot more money, a lot more experience and whatever that. Nobody wants to play in the gutter, you know, because you risk a lot. I have nothing to lose. So I can go full sewer system with these people. And I don't think most people. And that's what it takes to beat them. You can't do that without risking, you know, people all day long are like, are you scared? I'm not scared. These people are scared of going against that system.
- [30:41]
Michael Bostic
You also seem like you have a really good memory for all the little things that have happened. And you have a very. It's.
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Spencer Pratt
I have a lot of free time, thankfully. So, you know, I live this.
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Michael Bostic
What does Heidi think of you running for mayor?
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Spencer Pratt
She's very, you know, connected to God. So she's like, if, you know, obviously if I become mayor, it was clearly God's plan, and if I don't become Merit, it's clearly God's plan. So she's totally backs that. If. If it happens, it was clearly destiny and it was all meant to be. And if it doesn't, there's going to be something, another plan. But right now it feels real clear because the more I look to, like, trying to have faith and connect to God. Why did you let this happen? Like, oh, oh, you wanted a warrior to go against these people. I will do that.
- [31:32]
Lauryn Evarts
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Lauryn Evarts
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Spencer Pratt
I mean, I always have. So that's why I'm extra ready for this because I've always. And that's why people, you know, if you read in my book, people were threatening my life since I was 23 years old, to the point where I was doing all this tactical training and always had guns. And I was a gun person.
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Lauryn Evarts
I know some of the guys. I know one individual that's around you pretty regular. I don't think people want to get too close to you. You know, there's if he wants to share, but I would say like, that would make me sleep pretty well at night knowing you're running around with some of those people. I was watching like, are you concerned your safety? And then I saw him in the background. I go, well, he's probably concerned, but maybe not as concerned with that guy around.
- [38:49]
Spencer Pratt
So the other thing that I have new to my life is I wanted to get like an elite police protection dog. And so I reached out to this company and I looked into it. I was like, oh my God, I can't afford this, you know, and so I didn't. And then like the way the world worked after our house burned down, I get a call from, you know, somebody and they're like, the world champ police dog is too much for the elderly, wealthy owners that took this dog. He beat 500 police dogs in Europe. So I have Kobe Bryant of police dogs. They go, if you want him, you could go pick him up right now. I drove straight there, picked him up. So I have the most elite police dog right now.
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Lauryn Evarts
What do you have to do to Manage that dog.
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Spencer Pratt
Oh, he speaks full. I can't say what language he feel like. He's like a robot.
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Lauryn Evarts
But do you have to worry about him around the kids or no.
- [39:37]
Spencer Pratt
Oh, no. He sleeps next to Gunner's bed, so try it.
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Michael Bostic
You know, Wait, are these dogs that gnarly? I don't know about the dog thing.
- [39:45]
Spencer Pratt
If you don't if your neck like, because we had two Maltipoos and two Pomeranians, they went to heaven. When you're done with the little dogs and they go to heaven, talk to me. This will change your life. It. When I'm in the gas, Michael is like, literally, I'm at the gas station. I just crack the window as I'm getting gas. And the dog is so smart. I swear to God, it's checking the whole station. If somebody starts coming near me, I'm just. I'm ready. Then I'm about to open the door, I'm like, it'd be your worst nightmare.
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Michael Bostic
Wait, I don't know about this kind of dog. I mean, I know about police dogs that they.
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Heather
They like, scan the person premises.
- [40:18]
Spencer Pratt
This dog is smarter than anything you could be. Is scary.
- [40:22]
Lauryn Evarts
Why don't we have these dogs?
- [40:24]
Spencer Pratt
These dogs are 120,000.
- [40:25]
Lauryn Evarts
Some of these dogs go to war.
- [40:26]
Spencer Pratt
Oh, this is. This dog should be with Del Divorce or Seal Team 6.
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Michael Bostic
How does your dog. This is a stupid question, but I just wonder how does the dog know that when you picked him up that you guys are not threatening and then your kids aren't threatening?
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Spencer Pratt
Oh, well, these dogs aren't because these are like the elite dogs. They're how they in. Their dog's like four and a half years old. It's a fully trained. So it like they. In Europe, it was around little kids. They do every. They build it up in stages. So the dog's better with the kids than with anybody.
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Michael Bostic
So fully potty trained, ready to go.
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Spencer Pratt
He goes to the bathroom on command, you say, take a break.
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Lauryn Evarts
Stop.
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Michael Bostic
So I don't believe this. How have you not.
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Heather
Should that have you show this on Instagram?
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Spencer Pratt
I had to archive a lot of the dog content for a situation that you know.
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Lauryn Evarts
So if I came, if I was. If I was coming, if I was entering your private.
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Spencer Pratt
Eventually your world.
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Lauryn Evarts
And I was like. And the dog was with you. Do you have to do a protocol to like introduce the dog to the person, make sure that they. Or is it. Or he just.
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Spencer Pratt
He knows aura. Like, for instance, I was at the coffee shop. You know, so many people. He's scanning everything When I first got him and my close friend owns the coffee shop and we're talking to. And then he. We're talking for like 20 minutes and then he imitates a story of somebody threatening him and he goes something like, I'm gonna kill you or whatever. And the dog just on him like. And he's like, whoa, whoa, your dog. And like the dog sensed the like change in tone so quick. He didn't do anything because I didn't give the command.
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Lauryn Evarts
But if you give a command, like, if I. If I came was like, spencer, I'm going to get. And you gave the command. That dog's going to take me out.
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Spencer Pratt
Game over.
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Michael Bostic
I would like one of those dogs. I didn't know this kind of dog existed.
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Spencer Pratt
No, but I.
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Lauryn Evarts
But it's. I imagine it's also a pretty big responsibility to own one of these dogs. You got to like, really like, spend time with it. Yeah.
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Spencer Pratt
No, I've been have. It's the best thing I ever had in my life.
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Michael Bostic
Why didn't you bring. Oh, you left the dog because you want to leave it. Got it.
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Spencer Pratt
Okay.
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Michael Bostic
So. So would.
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Spencer Pratt
I'm good.
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Michael Bostic
If you could get another dog and bring it with you.
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Spencer Pratt
You only have one.
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Michael Bostic
You only have.
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Spencer Pratt
I almost just got a. Because this dog had a puppy, you know, like in the. Like, they were like, do you want. And I tried it. I was like, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good. It's. It's like having a.
- [42:29]
Lauryn Evarts
So you feel good knowing that that dog's with the kids. You're here. You don't have to. You don't have to think about like.
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Michael Bostic
What'S more gnarly, a bodyguard or this dog.
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Spencer Pratt
A dog. Because here's the thing. Crazy. This is why these. This is what they'll tell you. And I've learned crazy people, you pull a gun out a crazy person, they'll go shoot me. So you have to really be ready to kill somebody in a situation. Now, maybe you didn't need to kill that person, but you. This person could kill you. And this. Now you're in this weird gray area of self defense. Somebody starts coming at you with these dogs. You see my. Like for instance, I'll give you a great story. We had the dog. Heidi was recording a song over in. On Butler in Santa Monica Boulevard. Biggest, scariest dude, no shirt starts coming at us saying, I'm gonna. You know, I don't know if what he was on. This is like, crazy guy, crazy guy. Last person I'M trying to wrestle, stab, shoot, you know, I don't want anything to do with this person. He doesn't know that I got the dog in the car. So he's coming through the middle of the street, coming right at Heidi. And I. I just open the door, take the dog. He just sees the dog. The dog just gets in his thing, you know, bolts the other side of the street.
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Michael Bostic
Wait, are dogs this scary?
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Spencer Pratt
What can you assume?
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Michael Bostic
Can the dog kill?
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Spencer Pratt
Yeah, I mean, they can. I think it bites your neck or.
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Michael Bostic
I did not know about this kind of dog.
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Lauryn Evarts
Instinctually, we know as humans, you don't want to fuck with, like, big scary animals, you know, like, we're not equipped. You're not equipped to, like, handle that kind of thing. I don't want to fuck with a dog. I would rather fuck with a person than a big scary dog.
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Spencer Pratt
I didn't know 100%.
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Michael Bostic
Okay.
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Lauryn Evarts
A person you kind of know, like, oh, I've wrestled before. I know I could.
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Michael Bostic
My whole childhood has been like, warm, fuzzy dogs.
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Spencer Pratt
It's a warm, fuzzy dog, but he's a trained. He doesn't think. He thinks it's a game. He's been trained so much. Like, when I take him to his, like, training, whether we do, like, the attacks on the, like, the guy, right. It's his favorite thing to do in the world. Like, we're going to Disneyland. Tail wagging. So because he's his. It's like playing football or he's a professional athlete. Get the bag.
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Michael Bostic
What's the dog's name?
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Spencer Pratt
Yoki.
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Michael Bostic
Yoki. Do not fuck.
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Spencer Pratt
Oh, no. So. So that's the other thing. God is in signs and symbols. I'm always, like, connected to the multiverse like this. I should have never had this dog. I can't afford this dog. You. You don't. There's only one world champion a year. This is the 2023 world champion. Everybody wants that dog from the Europe, and it ended up with my family. That's the sign, you know.
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Michael Bostic
Oh, when you decided to write your second book. I've read your first one. When you decided to write the second one and you decided to just lay it on the table, what was the pushback that you got from behind the scenes?
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Spencer Pratt
I didn't really. I don't talk behind the scenes to anybody, so I don't think. I didn't. I didn't check in with anybody.
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Michael Bostic
What about, like, lawyers? When you write at the publisher, there's no pushback. They were like, go for it.
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Spencer Pratt
Lawyers. I did my. I Spent a lot of time every day with lawyers now suing LA and the state, so. And la dw. So I might as well be. I might as well have a law degree. Whatever Kim K has, I have that too now. So we did our best to anything a lawyer would not want in the book to legally make sure they could be in the book. So you just got. I feel like it's right there, like, because how I read stuff that you legally usually couldn't get away with. I feel like we legally got it in there.
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Michael Bostic
Can you give us a juicy nugget from the book or maybe give us some, like, what we're gonna learn in this book? Because you're not holding back, I can tell.
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Spencer Pratt
You know, I think the not nuggets or like, gotcha moments ago. I think the coolest part about the book is the goal was to, like, really describe an era of fame and this new modern world of fame, attention, fame that I aspired to be. That Paris Hilton started, I would say, and then I took.
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Lauryn Evarts
Just talk to her yesterday, funny enough, we were just talking all about this.
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Spencer Pratt
So that world, from my perspective, obviously she has her own. She was set up differently. I had to come from a very different route to build what now. So many influencers, content creators. So I think the coolest part about the book is like the roadmap to where we are now. And I. I truly believe that, you know, at USC film school, you could teach this book or a chapter out of it, so less of the, you know, obviously there's so much juice or whatever. Like, Us Weekly's already putting these quotes up that I didn't think were anything about people. I thought was, you know, tame ish. And people. Every sentence, people are like texting me, like, well, I can't believe you said this. I felt like that was chill.
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Lauryn Evarts
So they're just pulling all the. I mean, here's the thing that I think our generation understands. For whatever reason, you. You and Heidi specifically, and maybe people forget this area. You guys were on every fucking tabloid and magazine every week. Like, you could not escape Spidey. Like, it was everywhere. And I think that, like, we were talking again, like, to Paris yesterday. That level of attention and fame doesn't exist anymore. Like, we. And we talk to people on this show all the time. And I always say, like. Like that era is over, right? And I don't think it's ever going to come back because the new.
- [47:26]
Spencer Pratt
I can't.
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Michael Bostic
What's the new era to you? Like, what do you think is about to Happen with social and the landscape.
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Spencer Pratt
I mean, God, I hope we get a new era because right now it's not looking hot. Back to something I think is interesting about the book. And the Nelk boys were so lovely how they tweeted about me. And I found it so ironic because in my book, the my I told everyone in summer school at Columbic Unmalibu, the goal was to get on the COVID of Us Weekly in life because at that time when I was 16, only person that's on there is Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, just goats legends. So that was, that's the Stanley cup or whatever achievement. So that is a clear through line in my book. And here the Nelk boys are tweeting, calling me a washed up reality star. That same day I got my first full cover by myself with no Heidi, no drama. Spencer Brown, the COVID of Us Weekly. So in their modern world of fame as youtubers, I'm washed up in my og what fame is to me and what I my heritage. I have my peak day of fame.
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Lauryn Evarts
It's an interesting perspective.
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Spencer Pratt
The same day they think I'm washed up to me I just, I think it might be my jersey just went on the wall.
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Michael Bostic
It's gonna be a New York Times bestseller.
- [48:46]
Spencer Pratt
I let's stand. I think it will be a bestseller once I save Los Angeles. Because then they're going to look back and be like, how did he do this? So I think, you know, it's going to even, you know, publisher is so concerned that right now what I'm doing is like preempting the book. But I actually think what I'm about to do is going to make the book so much more interesting and it all connects to this journey. So it's like this hard thing because they want which I understand, they're my partners, they want book, book, book. I'm like, the book is my life. This is my life. It all is to where we are now.
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Lauryn Evarts
Yeah. What's interesting is like and I sent you a couple dms and personal messages just admiring what you've been doing. But I think what, what's interesting about what you're up to now is I think it's a culmination of your experiences and life's lived that have put you in this place position uniquely now. And I think like we've talked over the years, you, you've looked at different things, different projects. I feel like you've found, you've like really found your footing and as you found it, I've watched the attention and engagement really ramp up around you again. Do you feel that way? Like, I just feel like you're in your lane.
- [49:54]
Spencer Pratt
Like, I feel like you're in your flow. I don't. Like, I don't think.
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Lauryn Evarts
Like, if I. I think not anyone could just step into doing what you're doing now. Like, all of the experiences that you've had and all a sudden of. Of the things that have happened to you put you in this lane to do this uniquely.
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Spencer Pratt
Well, to go back to my preacher wife, she referenced a bunch of people in the Bible. I don't know that God always picks, like, the most opposite people to do his plan. So people say that I don't have the background for this. Well, God will give me what I need to do do. And so clearly, what they don't understand if they read my book, I do have. I have 20 years of preparing for now politics. They're trying to do what I did in 2006.
- [50:42]
Lauryn Evarts
Well, the smear campaigns aren't going to work on you.
- [50:43]
Spencer Pratt
Oh, no. All the clickbait headlines and the tweets and the.
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Michael Bostic
They read your first book.
- [50:48]
Spencer Pratt
Yeah, they read how to Be Famous, so. But there's a whole thing that was PG13 version. They don't know how to really be.
- [50:55]
Lauryn Evarts
Famous, but a lot of people can't, especially in politics. Like, you see these people crumble. They can't handle the heat in the kitchen when it gets ramped up and scrutiny gets put on. And I feel like, what can people really do or say about you that hasn't been done or said throughout your entire career? You know what I mean? What kind of smear campaign exists that hasn't been rolled over and investigated? 18. There's no. Let's find the extra dirt on Spencer. You've been out there.
- [51:18]
Spencer Pratt
So here's the ironic thing about the mayor saying that he's using this book as if I was running for mayor. Like, if I was an actual, like candidate, the way they think of it, my book would be the last thing I would launch before my campaign. This book was like, I'm putting everything in this to have sales before any of this happened. And it wasn't. Anyone that reads it is going to be like, oh, my God, you know, it doesn't. I'm not. I looked at my book as if I was trying to, like, take Spencer Pratt down. You know, as somebody. You know, some books people write about. People like, you almost think I wrote my book about me. Like, it's not like I'm. I don't feel like I'M the good guy. In my book. It's not a hero story. It's a tragic, dark tale of fame that you wouldn't write this book to like, be like, I'm running for office now. It's not a marketing.
- [52:11]
Michael Bostic
I think people though, in politics right now are looking for authenticity because that's what's been missing from it.
- [52:18]
Lauryn Evarts
They want to know who we can trust.
- [52:19]
Michael Bostic
You're incredibly refreshing and authentic, and I feel like you're at this moment in time where people are looking for someone like you.
- [52:26]
Lauryn Evarts
I also think people in this country specifically now are tired of like the polish, but. But not the real, like niceness behind the polish. Like, listen, I'm no fan of Newsom. That's known. And it's like if you look at a very polished dialed in, but like he looks like that guy. But then you see a lot of the things that they've done and even like, you know, my last thing, we don't have to bring up the French Laundry thing. But that was like, that was absurd at the time. Like, especially with as you were like changing people's lives and how they got to live them doing that. It's like people are done with the two face. Like, you look real good, you say the right things, but then you do the opposite.
- [53:00]
Michael Bostic
You're like, perfect.
- [53:01]
Lauryn Evarts
Right now I would rather have a very crass T shirt. Not just, but like someone that's gonna do what they say they're gonna do and mean what they say.
- [53:09]
Spencer Pratt
So that's the other thing. Like, I had a friend yesterday call me. This is a close friend I grew up with. And he was, you know, he's always backs me and he's like, I talked to another person. We got the best plan for you. How you could be like the Mondami of L. A. I'm like, what? Just, you know, I listen to everyone and, you know, and he goes, you just got to tell everybody that the bus tickets are going to be free. That's what he did. It's not even true. And then they don't have the money. I'm like, that's exactly the opposite of what I'm doing. Everyone just tells everybody to vote. I'm literally going to tell people exactly what I can do as mayor. I'm going to find out and all the things you can do as mayor. And here are all the things I can't do. So I'm not going to sit here and be like, we're going to do this. What I know I can do is go arrest People selling fentanyl to homeless people. I know I can enforce clearing streets. I know I can stop all the NGO money laundering with the homeless industrial complex and stop all these. Here's my biggest strength that they think is a weakness. I don't have 40 years of political favors and relationships and all these things that look at the city, you don't.
- [54:13]
Lauryn Evarts
Owe anybody anything in this world.
- [54:14]
Spencer Pratt
Whatever Karen Bass is doing, I don't want her qualifications. I want the opposite in which I have, I have nothing of that, so.
- [54:22]
Lauryn Evarts
And you don't go to Ghana.
- [54:23]
Spencer Pratt
I will never, I'm never leaving L. A so especially when I'm mayor, you know, the farthest I'll go is obviously Santa Barbara. I go to, you know, the Rosa Miramar and have a skinny margarita if I'm still allowed when this is all over. That is why I think I will win. Because people also are like, you know, people are very into like rigged votes. No voter idea, all this stuff. I truly believe there's like 3.9 million registered voters in LA. I think only 600,000 of them voted for Karen Bows to win. If my message about what everybody wants to pay taxes in la, that things are unaffordable to then live in a. A piece of shit everywhere, these people will show up and they'll vote. So I don't care if it is rigged and you got all these cook ballots. I think there's going to be a million extra people that want L. A. I have hardcore Hollywood, liberal Democrat people I'm not going to name coming in the big time game. Do you need help writing scripts? Do you need speeches like heavy hitters that they want LA back, they want to live here, they know I, they're not, you know, the media tries to put me in a box because I like guns or whatever, you know, certain things that other people don't like. My bet, my sister, my older sister is the most hardcore liberal ever. I talk to her all day long. I don't do the I, I want the same, a lot of the same stuff as everybody else. I'm in the. I guess somebody called me a populist. I don't know if that's what I am, sounds like I am. I'm very popular. So, you know, that's where they're going to try to get me with all these things. And you know the biggest thing Karen Bass does is she sits there and yells about ice. And this I can promise you if Karen Bass is the mayor for three more years, for sure more ICE raids will happen under Karen Bass than maybe any other state. And she'll keep making posts and yelling about it. But if you really don't want ICE in la, then you'd vote for Spencer. Because I can go make a deal with the federal government and the president and say, look, you stop ICE in la, my buddy Shrek and I, and SWAT and the sheriff's department, the new sheriff, Alex Manoj, we will give you more felons, rapists, drug dealers, child traffickers, murderers than any state, any city with using ice. I will go lead the task force. And it worked with the mayor of San Francisco. He made a deal with the federal government and they don't have what Karen Bass has. So you can get caught up in the performative yelling about things or you figure out what you got to work with and make a deal. And I can do that. So that's all she has is to yell about that. I will go fix it.
- [57:02]
Michael Bostic
What does your life look like right now in Santa Barbara? Running for mayor and promoting your book? Are you waking up and going straight to social? Are you being a dad? Is it all the things?
- [57:12]
Heather
What does it look like?
- [57:13]
Spencer Pratt
I think I've done one post to promote the book. That's the problem, you know, like, I'm supposed to take two weeks off of this. Ideally, the publisher would like. And I'm like, how about I just mix them together and the people want to buy the book and, you know, the message is the same message. This is me. If you wanted to vote for me, you should definitely read my book so it works, you know, as. But my life is no promo, unfortunately.
- [57:39]
Lauryn Evarts
I mean, no shade to your publisher. But, like, what you're doing right now and the attention you're getting in the way, like, people are going to. People what people forget. Audiences and customers and consumers are smart enough to be like, oh, you're doing this and that. And I'm going to go now because you're doing this. I'm going to go for that. They're not going to be like, oh, he's mayor, so I can't read the book. Like they're going to connect the dots. I need to read the fucking book now.
- [57:59]
Spencer Pratt
Right?
- [57:59]
Lauryn Evarts
You're getting attention regardless, you know, I.
- [58:03]
Spencer Pratt
What am I. What I'm doing today? I'll tell you. Yeah, I. So I already. Did you.
- [58:08]
Michael Bostic
Did you wake up, have your espresso? Do you have your espresso?
- [58:10]
Spencer Pratt
The lucky llama. I got a lucky llama acai bowl, even though it's too much sugar. And I'm trying to. You Know twice in my life I had depression with emotional eating and you'll read in my book. After the Hills was canceled, I became a pie addict. Fudge brownie, chocolate brownie, walnut. So I gained like at least 30 pounds then. And then after the house burned down, I became a skinny margarita Mexican food addict and gained at least 35 pounds. So I am now trying to manage.
- [58:42]
Lauryn Evarts
So when you get upset, it's the eating that provides the comfort or the drinking or whatever. Yeah, the food.
- [58:46]
Michael Bostic
How did you lose weight? Working out? GLP1?
- [58:49]
Spencer Pratt
No, no, the treadmill. I got Woodway gave me a good nice treadmill.
- [58:53]
Lauryn Evarts
Did you stop with the food?
- [58:54]
Spencer Pratt
No, no, I just try to do more miles and I'm trying to out eat my miles.
- [58:58]
Michael Bostic
You told me the best Mexican food. You told me is the place in la.
- [59:01]
Spencer Pratt
Well, Don Antonio's is going to be where. Where my campaign kickoff is on February 4th. Hopefully I'm gonna. This was this morning I went to Malibu and I did my video about. So I, I didn't post this because I rushed it because I didn't want to be late. I usually try to do maybe two takes and it didn't hit as hard as it should. And that video is. I was in Malibu and I stopped because Kamala Harris just bought a house in the Palisades, Malibu burn area. Her defenders will say it's not part of the burn area. Go drive on pch. It is a literal apocalypse. Trying. I do it every day. You drive 23 miles per hour in one lane. So let me tell you, she just got an $8 million house. That house before the fire was 10 million. So we have Kamala Harris coming in. She didn't do anything for fire victims for a whole year except for go get a great deal on some fire victim property. So that's like this, that was my video this morning. My next video when I leave here, I'm going to the Palisades Elementary School because all the parents have informed me that the state has actually gone back on their word and taken funding from the rebuild and teachers are not going to be able to have their jobs coming back. So that's my. So I'm gonna stop at the Palace, I'm gonna do my video about like whack a mole. No, you just, it's like.
- [60:25]
Lauryn Evarts
But how much like.
- [60:26]
Spencer Pratt
And then my other video I gotta do, I gotta go do this video in front of the burnt out Starbucks in Palisades. That's what my background.
- [60:34]
Lauryn Evarts
I don't think like I'm, I'm like Again, like, grew up out here, but don't. LA was not home. Family's still in San Diego, all that. But, like, I. I don't think I listen. My job is attention in media, right? Like, that's the world I'm in. I don't think people are seeing the groundswell that sort of. And I can imagine the people that are reaching out to you and the things they're asking you to say and the things they're asking you to bring attention to. Like, you've. You've literally become like, a champion for people of the city, and they're using you as the mouthpiece because it's effective. And I think that's what people are gonna underestimate with your campaign is that groundswell of these people wanting this out there. Because a lot of people, to your point, like, they don't have the courage to get out there and say, this is the thing, especially in this city. And I'm not bashing some of our fellow entertainers, but people are concerned about jobs, they're concerned about reputation. They're concerned about taking sides. They're concerned about saying what they really want to say. I imagine you're seeing a lot of that come through you.
- [61:28]
Spencer Pratt
Well, I lost this week a $75,000 campaign for three TikTok posts because they don't want to be connected to anything political. I also got a phone call from a major production company that I was supposed to host, an executive produce a major format from Europe that was a hit for a dating show. They're now concerned about the optics. So the celebrities aren't wrong. I did reach out to some of these celebrities that houses burned down. I said, hey, could you just be part of this without being political and just help bring attention ghosts. So there's also you. There's a balance. You can also come help victims in a way with. But again, Heidi defends them and says, you can't be in their shoes. So I don't name stepped up to the plate.
- [62:20]
Michael Bostic
She gave. Didn't she give a million dollars?
- [62:23]
Spencer Pratt
You know, I would have to. One thing I've learned, being involved with lots of lawyers and researching everything and seeing where everything goes and vetting things, I wouldn't respond to. You say, oh, yes, that's great. Because unless I spoke with the fire victims that receive those funds, unfortunately for celebrities like Paris, there's a lot of scamming NGO nonprofits that maybe they did.
- [62:46]
Lauryn Evarts
Maybe the intention was right, but the money didn't go to.
- [62:48]
Spencer Pratt
That is what happens with a lot of people. And that's what I'm going to clear up in la, because a lot of people want billions of dollars to solve homelessness, but it's increasing homelessness. So what's going wrong here is these homelessness NGOs, their salaries are a million, five million, two bonuses. The lower end people, 500,000, 700. Do you think they want to solve homelessness? If I.
- [63:12]
Lauryn Evarts
One of the biggest problems. And like, there's, listen, there's this big debate in this country about raising the taxes on the rich. The problem is, is like, as we've gone through and increased more and more taxes, like, I don't think there's. That these politicians have been able to prove that this money has been put to good use. And again, speaking as a former California resident, and I saw tax revenues increase, increase, increase the longer I lived here, and the state and the cities get worse and worse and worse. Like, that's just, that's the story. So for me, it's like any rational person's gonna say, well, clearly just raising taxes and collecting more money is not solving the issue, Right? So what. So there's obviously like an underlying. There's a foundational issue that needs to be cleaned out and rethought. Because if it was just throwing. California has some of the wealthiest people in the world. If it was a matter of just like putting money into it and fixing it, it would have been fixed.
- [63:57]
Spencer Pratt
So here's, here's my favorite thing. People will fight. Like, Newsom will be like, the federal government's not giving us emergency aid for the fire victims. And in his letter, everyone can go look at it. You can read the list because it's broken down. He asked, initially asked for 40 billion from the feds for the fire victims. Now I think it's maybe down to 35. Don't quote me exactly on that. When you read the list of where this money they want to go, it's just like fire aid. It's for this grant, it's for this NGO, it's for 100 million for mental health, blah, blah, blah. If you want a $35 billion for fire victims, it needs to literally have the names and addresses of the people that were underinsured by how much, if they were insured. What California fair plan didn't provide to clean their toxic stuff out of their house. The senior citizens that can't move in the mobile home park that all these people can't go in, put all them back. Give them, you know, so they put all this number they want $40 billion but it's never going to fire victims. It's how scary it is right now. This week, the L. A Fire department just funded, with their own unions, a ballot measure to add to our sales tax money to go directly to the firefighters. The city of L. A doesn't have the money to fund the fire. The L. A Fire department right now is running a fire department that should be the fire department for 1964. The fire department, almost 80% of their calls, all the money that they use, guess what it goes to overdosing, going narcon, fentanyl, addict, hitting them with the narcon in their nose. So first off, you clean up the street, you get all these drug dealers giving the drugs to the drug addicts. You have way less overdoses. So last year, I think 1300 people overdose in LA. Karen Bassel brag about removing 1500 people from the streets LA when 13 of 100 of them went into the ground in the freaking dirt dead. So from ods, yeah, so. But they don't say that in the numbers. They don't say of the 1400 we removed, 1300 of them are dead.
- [66:05]
Heather
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- [72:52]
Michael Bostic
When do you find out if you win?
- [72:53]
Spencer Pratt
Well, I'm going to win in May outright. Cuz in May you can just. If you have 51% of the vote. She's done. She's like over. I don't even have to have a runoff.
- [73:02]
Michael Bostic
Can we be the first podcast that you come on after you win?
- [73:06]
Lauryn Evarts
Big commitment.
- [73:07]
Spencer Pratt
Well, I'll talk to the team. You know. You know, I don't. But just. We'll definitely be there.
- [73:15]
Michael Bostic
Bring the dog on the show.
- [73:17]
Spencer Pratt
You know, the dog is a lot of work.
- [73:19]
Michael Bostic
Okay.
- [73:19]
Spencer Pratt
You know, I, I can't.
- [73:20]
Michael Bostic
It's not that easy to just bring.
- [73:22]
Spencer Pratt
Because like she moves too fast over at me. You know. You know, you. If you're their handler. So you just gotta.
- [73:30]
Michael Bostic
Okay.
- [73:30]
Spencer Pratt
And I wouldn't.
- [73:31]
Michael Bostic
Hopefully we'll be.
- [73:32]
Spencer Pratt
Everyone signs the release.
- [73:33]
Michael Bostic
You know, the first show.
- [73:34]
Spencer Pratt
He loves women though, so I haven't.
- [73:36]
Lauryn Evarts
Which by the way, if you were.
- [73:38]
Spencer Pratt
To try to kill me, you'd have to send a 1.
- [73:39]
Lauryn Evarts
Our release is with your legal team and normally I would not start an interview. You had to sign that thing and so this can go on. I told her, I said we're good. It'll be fine.
- [73:46]
Spencer Pratt
We're good.
- [73:46]
Michael Bostic
What is Heidi working on?
- [73:48]
Spencer Pratt
Well, thank you for asking. First off, continue to stream and download. Streaming does not help. So if you want to help Heidi buy music, because that's the other funniest part.
- [73:59]
Michael Bostic
Oh, I went and downloaded her songs, so I also have to buy it.
- [74:02]
Spencer Pratt
That's the trick. You think you're downloading because you're in Apple music and you're just adding it to your library.
- [74:07]
Michael Bostic
I did it on Spotify.
- [74:09]
Spencer Pratt
You gave her 00001 penny. But thank you. All the pennies add up. Okay, I'm being clear.
- [74:15]
Michael Bostic
Okay.
- [74:15]
Spencer Pratt
But I feel very thankful if you really want to support. If you can you purchase music on itunes or Amazon Music or you know.
- [74:24]
Michael Bostic
I gotta go on itunes.
- [74:25]
Spencer Pratt
You have to literally buy it. Because that's the craziest part. When I was like pumping Heidi's music, I was like, we're gonna rebuy a house. You're number one everywhere. You're on the Billboard. It came out publicly. Billboard posted it all. That was $150,000, which again is a miracle. Amazing. But I need a million two for pilings or caissons. So back to what Heidi's doing. She has the best album coming out in six weeks, a full album. And Heidi Wood was incredible, that album. But what we learned from Heidi Wood is new relationships. Almost 70% of this album is from all the top writer producers in Sweden. So it's like a real pop masterpiece. Like Norway, it's gonna hit. People are gonna be like, oh, my God. And then the other part, almost every record, I think on it was vocally produced by this guy Sean, who does all Kid Laroi. He's one of the most famous vocalists. So he really was able to get a whole new level out of Hyde. So that's exciting. She's just really trying to survive being a mother of these. These two savages.
- [75:31]
Michael Bostic
They're savages.
- [75:32]
Spencer Pratt
I don't know if we give them too much meat and they're just like barbarians, but they are. The three year old is convinced he can beat up the eight year old and it. It's almost real. So it's. You have to stop combat. We always joke because Heidi certain movies for Christmases and it's like those, the two kids in four Christmases that people get the reference, but they're like punching the people. I don't know. But it's. It's a lot. So she's really.
- [76:00]
Michael Bostic
Are you guys done with kids?
- [76:01]
Spencer Pratt
Oh, my God. Forever and ever and ever.
- [76:04]
Michael Bostic
And that's how much work 2 Boys is.
- [76:07]
Spencer Pratt
I was fine with one boy. You know, Heidi really wanted the second. I'm glad we did it. But two is a lot.
- [76:13]
Lauryn Evarts
You know, we're not there yet because our oldest son is three and a half, but our youngest is seven months. So I don't think we've experienced.
- [76:19]
Michael Bostic
Yeah, two boys and a girl. I don't think we've.
- [76:21]
Lauryn Evarts
I don't think we've got to the point. Point where the boys are the boys.
- [76:23]
Michael Bostic
Yeah. When do we get to the point?
- [76:24]
Spencer Pratt
I think you'll be. You'll be fine. I see anybody, I see anybody with more than two kids I might give you. And some people will be like, it's just added to the bill. I'm like, well, it's an expensive bill you got. But so, yeah, she had a great call with like a parenting therapist because she's like, I'm being a bad mother. I can't control. And I was listening to this, and I actually felt like she was in a comedy with me. She was saying, just talk in one word sentences. Like, if the one child's grabbing the other child's arm, just say arm. And then I watch Heidi when there's, like, full Mortal Kombat, she's like, arm. They're just like, yeah, lady, it ain't gonna work, honey. But it was so hard.
- [77:03]
Michael Bostic
Does anything work?
- [77:06]
Spencer Pratt
You know, she said she had the best day ever yesterday. So, you know, days change.
- [77:10]
Lauryn Evarts
Have you seen that meme where it's like, hey, kids, I'm just gonna be on a call for business. Call for 10. Just be quieter than the next. It's like a Steven Seagal movie. Like, snaps their arm and throws him through an armoire. Like, the glass straps. I'm gonna. I'm gonna DM it to you.
- [77:21]
Spencer Pratt
I just joke to Heidi every time I say I'm going somewhere, she's like, wait, I'm like, I'll be right back. I'm going to Japan. You know, literally, like I always say. And people always like, oh, my God, you have the best marriage. Thank God I married Heidi, because if I didn't marry Heidi and she wasn't, like, such a good mom and so patient and was too Spencer, like, precise. These poor children.
- [77:43]
Michael Bostic
Are you romantic as a husband?
- [77:45]
Spencer Pratt
You know, lately it's very challenging, you know, because we're. You know, I now get when older people used to always be like, oh, yeah, enjoy your sex life now. You know, you have to fight for. For a sex life now. Like, you know, I used to be on Box because, oh, the second kid took it. Nobody wants to hear about him in sex lives, but you just have to, like, figure it's like a real tactical existence now.
- [78:10]
Lauryn Evarts
No, we got to. We got to la and the kids aren't with us. I'm like, this is the time. This is the moment. We're in a hotel, nobody's around.
- [78:16]
Spencer Pratt
No, you truly. You only can have a hotel. Like, I almost, like, I have a Best Western discount. I'm a Best Western member now. No, I'm just kidding. But, yeah, it's. It's a lot.
- [78:30]
Lauryn Evarts
One other thing I wanted to talk to you about before, and you touched on this a little bit, and I think I just. You know, we talk a lot about health and wellness on this podcast, and our buddy Sherveen was on your show. We love Shervin, but there was an article that the Wall Street Journal put out, and I think it kind of, like, went below the radar. And it was. What I was reading was like, all of these illnesses have now come through and they're starting to see things because of the respiratory issues from the people that are the fire victims. Skin issues, things that. Complications that people were not associating with the fire that are now, like, literally being proven. I feel like that article came out and then people kind of swept it under the rug.
- [79:02]
Spencer Pratt
Well, if you watched our podcast with Shervine, he then left and threw up for, like, two days.
- [79:09]
Lauryn Evarts
Well, he, like, if he gets exposed to, like, sure being and he's too sensitive. He, you know, he's so funny.
- [79:15]
Spencer Pratt
My camera operator, when he heard this or like, whoever was like, wouldn't his immune system be, like, better? And I'm like, no, he's so pure pure that it's like, you know, it's like the devil choking him. But shout out to him. He did just send me the new creatine that he's very excited about. I had it last night. It's all I got to eat after. No, no, I did have. I did have no boo before, but not that much because I'm on budget.
- [79:39]
Michael Bostic
Creatine and a skinny margarita.
- [79:41]
Spencer Pratt
No, I actually. I stopped with margaritas. It's just tequila.
- [79:44]
Michael Bostic
It's just plain tequila.
- [79:45]
Spencer Pratt
Yeah, it does not work for me. I'll give you a real thing because Shrek told me in combat, they used to drink Delta Force. And I was like, you guys would drink before not. He goes, you can't be drunk in a gunfight. I'm like, what do you mean? He's like, the second the gunfight starts, the adrenaline washes the fight. He's like, you are sober. I swear to God, I live such gunfight like, energy all day long that I'm like, drinking tequila. I'm like, this does not work. You know, like, obviously, eventually gotta be careful with that. You know, eventually it works. Just have to find that where it works. No, I've cut down on the drinking. Unfortunately.
- [80:21]
Lauryn Evarts
No. But a lot of people are.
- [80:22]
Spencer Pratt
Yeah. So no. What happened to me, I got staph for my lot. I had was. I've never had been on antibiotics. I'm like, anti antibiotics for, like, I want to say 20 years. I had to do, like, four different rounds of crazy antibiotics. I had holes in my skin eating.
- [80:39]
Michael Bostic
How did you get it?
- [80:40]
Spencer Pratt
Because my dumb ass was digging around in my toxic rubble looking for crystals when everybody else was in those white hazmat suits. And I thought, oh, how stupid do they look? Yeah.
- [80:52]
Michael Bostic
So wait, so you were digging around.
- [80:54]
Spencer Pratt
He was in the debris looking for like crystals.
- [80:57]
Michael Bostic
And the debris gave you stuff.
- [80:59]
Spencer Pratt
Well, obviously, like had like a little scratch and it got into my blood. So I spent God knows how many hours and money spending every day for like two months in a hyperbaric chamber. Eventually I got rid of, but it's like I still now have like this form of eczema that they had to cut out one of these things to like do a biopsy, biopsy. Because Dr. Wu, Jessica and she like did found all this research. This happened to fire victims in San Francisco. Like a big problem with this extreme eczema. You know, we thought it was so bad, she thought maybe it was psoriasis. So that's why we had to cut out a piece of it, get labs. But it wasn't so 100%. And then that movie star, forget her name. I'm sorry. She died of like a lung thing, like pneumonia in her lungs. And you read her quotes. I don't want to say a name and somebody's still alive, but whoever died from the palace is a big time movie star. If you go back, she talks about how she was like coughing so much post fire and then like a few months later she dies of like a pneumonia lung disease. So he has been sending me so much products and I am like, you guys, like a bootleg version of how healthy you guys are, you know, like amount of supplements and stuff. Yeah, peptides. I'm injecting and I just don't have as much time to work out. So I don't look like it. But I, I am about to get on a crazy protocol because I'm working with this guy, Chris Duffin, who just did all Heidi's labs and her thing of like, I'm like, I need this.
- [82:24]
Michael Bostic
What? He just looks at everything.
- [82:26]
Lauryn Evarts
Look at all your blood work.
- [82:27]
Spencer Pratt
Like, I've always looked at my blood work. Like we always work with Chris Talley, who does, you know, all the superstar athletes, but he doesn't, he's not into peptides where I am. So we then went to Chris Duffin who's like an expert in peptide science. And we got new labs done just for hormones and peptides. And he did Heidi's whole thing. I was, and I saw them, I was like, so I have mine coming up. So whatever you see now, there will be a new look. When I'm mayor, I'm going to be in fancy suits that I got half off. Well, shout out, boss, before they stop responding to my email. No, I learned this too Hugo Boss is different than Boss.
- [83:07]
Lauryn Evarts
But is it the same? Like, same look, same.
- [83:09]
Spencer Pratt
It's different brand? No.
- [83:10]
Lauryn Evarts
Okay.
- [83:10]
Spencer Pratt
So boss.
- [83:11]
Lauryn Evarts
Okay.
- [83:12]
Spencer Pratt
You know, they sent me a lot of very nice clothes when I was cool, and then they stopped because I. I think I was like, well, I need a new wardrobe. I can't filter these two suits. And I think 40 emails later, I'm blocked. But shout out them for the couple looks. I do have two nice looks that.
- [83:27]
Michael Bostic
I wore to wash. What a podcast. That was a lot of range, Spencer. We went from a lot of different subjects.
- [83:35]
Lauryn Evarts
I feel like we always have fun talking. I mean.
- [83:37]
Spencer Pratt
Yeah.
- [83:37]
Lauryn Evarts
I mean, I wanted to do this for a while. You got a lot going on, man.
- [83:39]
Michael Bostic
If you.
- [83:39]
Spencer Pratt
Anyone wanted to do it at your hotel in Montecito, you love. But I understand it's hard to, you know.
- [83:44]
Michael Bostic
Yeah. Why can't we go to San Ysidro?
- [83:46]
Spencer Pratt
We could. We could definitely. I'm available. Always.
- [83:49]
Michael Bostic
Wait, so if you win and we go to San Ysidro Ranch.
- [83:53]
Spencer Pratt
I think once I win, I'm literally firing so many people that we'll have to, like, do it in city hall.
- [83:58]
Michael Bostic
Where can everyone follow you? Support Heidi, all the things. Buy your book.
- [84:01]
Spencer Pratt
Yeah, the book that we're here for. The book. You know, obviously, book. I have 40 of them in my car, so I'm holding invisible ones. They're very beautiful. Ideally, if you're a wealthier listener, you could download and buy the audiobook, which is very unique because. Ready for this? I am the only audiobook to have a famous vocal producer take my voice. I use Heidi's famous. So he did that. And it gets better. In the book, there's this person, Jason Joshua, who, when Heidi did her first album in 2009, he was a young guy, a mixer, and he worked on most of Heidi's superficial album. Cut to now he has 17 Grammys. He's one of the most famous mixers in the world. The Beyonce's Lemonade. So I was like, I want my audiobook mixed by. And the publisher's like, nobody does this. It's a compressed file. I'm like, he could make a voice memo sound like a Grammy. You're wrong. We don't have the budget for this. So I hit him up. I'm like, yo, you gotta mix my audiobook. They're saying they'll have the budget for you. He's like, I got you, bro. So I wrote back to the publisher. He's got me. And they're like, oh, my God. So my audiobook has 17 Grammy mix behind it, which nobody in the history of audiobooks has done.
- [85:18]
Michael Bostic
Can Taylor, our producer, thought you were.
- [85:20]
Spencer Pratt
Gonna say Taylor Swift. And I was gonna say yes. Taylor Swift loved audiobooks. She just went on the news and said she loves listening to them. So, Taylor, I know we've been going back and forth on emails where they don't come back, but I need a little promo.
- [85:36]
Michael Bostic
Taylor, our producer, can he walk down to the car with you and get me a book that's signed so I can take pictures of it? I bought the book. I bought it on pre order the second you got it. But can I get a signed Spencer copy that I can take pictures of?
- [85:49]
Spencer Pratt
Probably will need $30 cash.
- [85:51]
Michael Bostic
That's fine. $30 cash. Done. I'll Venmo you. Done. Done.
- [85:55]
Spencer Pratt
No, don't Venmo me. Now there's all these campaign things actually. No cash. We're good. It's. It's great.
- [86:01]
Lauryn Evarts
How do I get it?
- [86:02]
Spencer Pratt
Oh my God, who knows? They could. Thank God I have like famous treasurers and campaign lawyers. I'm bulletproof. You know what the most interesting thing about running for mayor? Guess how much is a max donation? How much for mayor of LA? Millions of people.
- [86:17]
Lauryn Evarts
You're how much?
- [86:18]
Spencer Pratt
Yes, I said 300. $300?
- [86:21]
Lauryn Evarts
Yeah.
- [86:22]
Spencer Pratt
Thank God, not 300.
- [86:23]
Michael Bostic
No, a max. Don. I'm going to say 100,000 million.
- [86:30]
Spencer Pratt
$1800.
- [86:32]
Lauryn Evarts
So, okay, so I'm not that crazy, but yeah, 300.
- [86:35]
Spencer Pratt
I think God is not, I thought. But like, say there's very rich people that want to get rid.
- [86:40]
Lauryn Evarts
When you gave me the reaction of 300, I'm like, oh man, it must be in the millions. But now that's what I'm saying.
- [86:45]
Spencer Pratt
Anybody would think you can be mayor of LA with getting 300.
- [86:48]
Lauryn Evarts
Well, I was trying to think about like, how many people are allowed to donate. And then I was thinking, like, if the whole population, like how much money that could be and like, you know, like, could you end up with a war chest of.
- [86:56]
Spencer Pratt
You have to give it back. You have.
- [86:57]
Lauryn Evarts
That's what I'm saying.
- [86:58]
Spencer Pratt
Okay, so, so like, but what if.
- [87:01]
Lauryn Evarts
You had like, say you were worth a hundred million dollars?
- [87:03]
Spencer Pratt
Could somebody ran and spent a hundred million dollars and lost and so you.
- [87:07]
Lauryn Evarts
But if you had.
- [87:08]
Spencer Pratt
I use my own money as much as you want. Okay, here's the craziest thing as mayor, though. The first thing I'm going to one of the first. I got a lot of first. They're all in the same. Do you know? You don't. Because I didn't know. You'd have to run for mayor to know this. For every dollar I raise, could be wrong by $1. So for every dollar I raise, the city will give me $6. So Mayor Karen Bass, when she ran last, she got $2 million from the city for her own campaign. So obviously, I'm going to use that now running. But once I'm mayor, we're done. We're not using taxpayer money. That seems really strange, people to run for office. You can. You can do it.
- [87:45]
Lauryn Evarts
So, like, when I was a California resident, my tax money went for people to run to potentially become mayor when they weren't mayor. Correct.
- [87:53]
Spencer Pratt
Regardless, she can use it as mayor.
- [87:55]
Lauryn Evarts
So, like, if Lauren donated to you, but I wanted another candidate to win and that person, like, potentially, my tax dollars would still go to the candidate that I wasn't looking.
- [88:04]
Spencer Pratt
Correct. So I'm getting rid of that.
- [88:06]
Lauryn Evarts
Yeah, that's a weird.
- [88:07]
Spencer Pratt
I'm gonna use it first.
- [88:08]
Lauryn Evarts
Yeah, yeah. Take advantage of the system. Yeah, yeah.
- [88:11]
Michael Bostic
Go buy Spencer's book. It will not disappoint, I can tell you that.
- [88:15]
Lauryn Evarts
The guy you love to hate out now everywhere. Check it out, guys.
- [88:19]
Spencer Pratt
So it's so funny now so many people are messaging me. I never hated you. I'm like, okay.
- [88:25]
Michael Bostic
You know, I actually didn't.
- [88:27]
Spencer Pratt
No, I know. But it's. A lot of people are saying that. It's hard to believe I don't remember this much love back in the day.