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The Truth About Lymphatic Drainage, Body Contouring, & Celebrity Massage With Josie Rushing
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#851: Join Lauryn as she sits down with Josie Rushing – Founder of Brazilicious Brazilian Beauty Spa & a self-made, award-winning Brazilian celebrity massage therapist to the stars gracing the red carpet. Renowned for creating the iconic...
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Lauren Everts
The following podcast is a Dear Media Production. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire.
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Michael Bostick
Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur, a very smart cookie.
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Josie Rushing
And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostick are bringing you along for the ride.
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Michael Bostick
Get ready for some major realness.
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Lauren Everts
Welcome to the Skinny Confidential.
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Josie Rushing
Him and her. Aha.
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Michael Bostick
The queen of Brazilian lymphatic massage is gracing us with her presence. Josie Rushing. She's a self made, seven time award winning Brazilian celebrity massage therapist. She's one of the biggest names behind the Brazilian lymphatic massage in the world and she's personally seen herself thousands of clients. I am one of them. She actually has a Brazilian spa in Austin and I go see her all the time. She has changed the game. In this episode, I ask her every last speck of a question that you could imagine about lymphatic drainage. I really like it because what I notice is when I go to her, I'll walk in like bloated or with water in my legs or stomach and I'll walk out just feeling light as a feather. It's such a good massage to get if you have an event or you're going to be in a bikini. But honestly, I've done it my whole pregnancy and it makes me just feel really great. It's so, so amazing for your immune system. And she knows so much about this specific kind of massage that I wanted to have her on the podcast. Josie, welcome to the him and her show.
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Lauren Everts
This is the Skinny Confidential.
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Josie Rushing
Him and her.
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Michael Bostick
The queen of lymphatic therapy on the podcast. Not only is she the queen of lymphatic therapy, you guys, she also is the queen of Brazilian lymphatic, which is a very special technique that we're going to get into. I have had the pleasure of getting to know Josie because she works on almost every inch of my body and she's helped me in so many different instances. And after talking with her through all of these hour sessions, I was like, you have to come on the podcast to share all of your knowledge with the audience. And we kicked Michael off.
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Josie Rushing
Right. I feel sorry though, because he was wanting to have a Brazilian lymphatic. Did you hear that?
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Michael Bostick
He's trying to book with Josie in the hallway. He wants a Brazilian. Brazilian lymphatic drainage massage. Yeah. And he's so excited about it. But I kicked him off because I just wanted to ask you all the questions without him in here.
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Josie Rushing
Yeah, that's nice. Thanks for having me, by the way. It's a pleasure to be Here. You're welcome.
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Michael Bostick
So first, just to get the lay of the land, explain the difference between Brazilian lymphatic and American or other, other maybe French lymphatic. What's the differences?
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Josie Rushing
Yeah, that's a great question. Because people usually, they know just the lymphatic Brazilian lymphatic name says is so famous in Brazil for so many years. But actually the regular lymphatic was created about a hundred years ago by Dr. Vaughter and his wife as well. But they were not actually worried about what we might be worried now. We're talking about like plastic surgeries. We're talking about a different lifestyle that we are currently living. People are worried about their shape, their contouring after a surgery during like postpartum as well, a hundred years ago. Dr. Vaughter was not worried about any of this. That was more of an internal thing, let's say this way. So the idea of the Brazilian lymphatic is that we are able to help our clients from the inside out as a regular lymphatic American one, or French or any ways that you'd like to call it. But also we are able to help them on the outside, cosmetic wise. So it's a combination that will give more results to the clients that thinking about their cosmetic side as well and thinking about this new lifestyle that we are living.
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Michael Bostick
So you get the wellness benefits, but you also get the shape that you want. I've seen some incredible transformations that you've done, but also on my own body, you literally lose like 10 pounds of fluid.
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Josie Rushing
You can. Our bowel lymphatic system holds about four to five pounds pounds of waste. That's it. So people, sometimes they think that they are overweight, but actually it's not overweight. It could be water retention. So a lymphatic, for example, one hour of Brazilian lymphatic can help to reduce about 90% of waste. And lymphatic fluid that we have in our body, we're talking about one hour only of about four or five pounds, for example. So, yeah, Brazilian lymphatic helps from the inside out, but also helps with so many, many other things. As far as cosmetic wise, what I.
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Michael Bostick
Think too is so interesting about it is you're puffy and inflamed in places you never would think. You've talked to me about this. The underarm pits, if your armpits are really puffy. Yes, that's stagnant lymph. Yeah, Some people are puffy in their vagina, Some people are puffy. In their ankles.
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Josie Rushing
Yeah.
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Michael Bostick
And lymphatic really helps that those are like the places that are blocked, right?
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Josie Rushing
Absolutely. So we have the superficial lymph nodes everywhere in our body. Not everywhere. Majority of some places, including specifically the left auxiliary that we call here on the armpit. And if it is puff, you might have some sort of issues. Especially wellness wise, you can feel be feeling fatigue or even acne. Acne can come with like problems related to your lymphatic system. Lots and lots of other problems, emotional issues as well, depression, fatigue, or even anxiety. All of these can be helped by doing Brazilian lymphatic. So it's so important that we talk about all of this because people sometimes they don't know, they want to treat the outside and they just forget the inside. And with Brazilian lymphatic, we can help everything from the inside and also the outside.
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Michael Bostick
Talk to the audience about how fucking crazy it would be to get plastic surgery or any surgery without doing lymphatic. Oh, it's like making a sandwich without the bread.
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Josie Rushing
I know, it's so important. And before the surgery, liposuction, tummy tuck, breast augmentation, facelift, whatever aesthetic surgery that you're gonna get, you have to have lymphatic before the surgery to get your body ready for that surgery. It's a trauma that you are going to endure. So you need to have some sort of preparation so your body's ready, your immune system is ready, your body's clean to get that invasive treatment. Because I don't know if you guys ever watched how a tummy tuck is done. How a liposuction is done is like a lot of trauma to the body. And then right after the surgery, whatever you're going to do, we also have to have lymphatic to avoid discard tissue to avoid, like to speed up your recovery, for example, and maintain after you are done, make four months out of your surgery. Just maintain at least once a week having a Brazilian lymphatic, which I know could be crazy for people. Like, I can't have lymphatic every, every week. But actually that's what is needed for our body.
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Michael Bostick
And in Brazil, that's very normal.
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Josie Rushing
You told me two, three times a week. Oh my God. I've had my first lymphatic when I was 12 years old. I just turned 40. I remember, like, it was like yesterday I was laying down in my mom's bed. This lady went there and she was massaging my mom and also she massaged me when I was 12 years old because like I said, it's a wellness thing. It helps with so many benefits for our health. But also for the cosmetic side, cellulite, for example. It's one of the benefits. We have a study done with people. Like women were doing Brazilian lymphatic for a month, twice a week, and they got their cellulite reduced, reduced in 58%. So it's like it is. It does help overall. Plus you. Besides the cosmetic benefits, we have also the wellness one in general. Your health, immune system, cortisol levels. There are so many benefits that I could literally be here like all day long just talking about it.
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Michael Bostick
When the Internet was helping me name my first baby, they were giving like names. They said I should name my firstborn lymphatic. Oh. Cause I talked about. Because I was obsessed with the lymphatic system because I was so swollen from jaw surgery that I had to find all these different things to do. And the thing that made the biggest difference was lymphatic drainage and facial manipulation.
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Josie Rushing
Yes, yes.
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Michael Bostick
People don't realize too, even in their face. It's why I launched with an ice roller first. Like you, you have to move that fluid.
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Josie Rushing
Yes.
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Michael Bostick
If you don't move the fluid and you don't do some kind of lymphatic practice or massage or manipulation, what happens? What, what, what happens to your body?
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Josie Rushing
Your body's going to be heavy overall. First of all, like, like I said, we can have up to four or five po, just weights, there weights in our body. But also you are not going to be able to have that immune system or better getting boosted. For example, you are going to be very swollen, feeling like very heavy on your legs. After a day of work, for example, we all women, we are wearing our heels. So at the end of the day we are tired because we need to help our body to do its work. It's not possible for our body the way that we live our life right now. So we have to take this. Lauren, Imagine like a hundred Years ago, like 50 years ago, we didn't have all these like cars and sitting on a computer or staying like all day long, like over this, just on the same position without walking, without like doing all these health things, that a long time ago it was normal for the society. So we kind of have to balance everything. The way that I like to say is that if people are actually able to balance everything, that is not being good for them, that's what is the best thing to do. And Brazilian lymphatic is the balancing, let's say the system back helping with so many other things in our body. So they're going to feel sluggish, they're going to feel fatigued. They can feel very, very, like, heavy with water retention on their legs, on their arms. There are a lot of, like, outside body things that we can see that. Cause the, like, not working with your lymphatic system properly.
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Michael Bostick
I mean, I got a lymphatic massage by you yesterday, and I walked in feeling so heavy, almost like I was wearing like a fat suit.
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Josie Rushing
Oh, come on, you're not.
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Michael Bostick
I mean, I'm very, very pregnant. And you, it's so cool because you started on my left leg and immediately it felt light as a feather.
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Josie Rushing
Yes.
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Michael Bostick
But my other leg felt so heavy still. It is one of those things and why I personally like it that you see instant results.
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Josie Rushing
Yes. And then it's so quick. Like in one hour, we can get 90% of that fluid back to our lymphatic system using our hands only. There's nothing else we can do besides our home routines, like the dry brushing or even the gua shower or something like that. Ice rolling, for example. But with our hands, we are able to help so much our body. And with you. I started with the left leg for a reason. So my technique, the Brazilian lymphatic massage by Jose Rushing, is proprietary. And I was studying every single detail, including starting on the left leg first. There's a reason why.
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Michael Bostick
Why, of course you.
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Josie Rushing
There is a reason why for that. So we do all of this because our lymphatic system is not even in our body. So we start on the left leg to give more time to the other side to kind of like pair and bal. Same way that we do pressure points, for example. So we have our spleen that is part of our lymphatic system. There's no way that we can manually touch our spleen. So when I was creating my own technique, I was thinking, how can I get this spleen working better because it plays so much important role on our lymphatic system. And pressure point was the answer. So I do pressure points on the legs that will actively work on the spleen. For example, on my Brazilian lymphatic. So there are a lot of things that I do based on strokes, fascia release, pressure points, respiration, or even starting on the left leg that are important and will give more results to our clients.
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Michael Bostick
Do you think it's like crazy if someone says they don't get lymphatic like.
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Josie Rushing
You think, oh, my gosh, yes, totally. Do you know, I. I feel that what I always tell people is like, just try once. That's all. I'm not trying to convince you that it's gonna be good for you. I just feel that people, they have to try once. Because after that, I know for sure they are gonna become an ambassador of the Brazilian lymphatic. I was just here, I just got here to record this podcast and I was outside and I was talking to this lady outside from your front desk, Alex in hr. Yes. And she was like raving about it because she was scared at first. She was thinking that was going to be very painful. And then she was like, no, it's not painful at all. It helped me this and that. And she started talking to this other lady that was right besides me, and then this other lady wanted to hear more. So that's all that I say, just try once. Because I know the benefits are going to totally change people's lives. I know that a lot of people.
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Michael Bostick
During or after surgery rather have gotten lymphatic and the lymphatic person tries to squeeze fluid. Oh, have you heard of this?
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Josie Rushing
Of course I did.
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Michael Bostick
Okay.
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Josie Rushing
It's causing seasonal drainage. Yes.
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Michael Bostick
Someone came on the podcast and talked about it. Talk, talk about mistakes.
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Josie Rushing
I don't want to watch that episode.
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Michael Bostick
No, it's. It's. So you don't like incisional drainage?
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Josie Rushing
Not at all. Not in Brazil. We do not believe that. The thing is like, like I said, when you have a surgery, it's very traumatic for the body. So you are creating more edema, water retention. Your body's trying to recover from all the incisions and everything. So when you go there and you literally squeeze the fluids out of the incisions like incisional drainage does, you're actually not letting your body to recover, which is the main goal of a Brazilian post surgery lymphatic. So it's a big no no.
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Michael Bostick
So what else are no no's like that? What. What would you be like, horrified to learn?
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Josie Rushing
I've seen a lot of. Sometimes when I'm scrolling on Instagram, I see people using a lot of pressure and like even sometimes giving bruises to people because they think that if they want to get those before and afters get very snatched and very like, woo. Like they need to feel pain. And beauty is not pain. Not with Brazilian lymphatic. You know, you can have beautiful results like snatch the stomach matched faces. Recover with post surgery without any pain is actually very relaxing.
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Michael Bostick
A lot of, I think double chin and lower, like fluid in the face can be easily fixed with it.
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Josie Rushing
Yeah.
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Michael Bostick
If someone. This is what I hear a lot. Well, how long does it last?
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Josie Rushing
Yeah.
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Michael Bostick
Personally, this is the way I look at facial manipulation and lymphatic. I work out my body. I try to work out every single day. Sometimes I hit five days a week, whatever. You don't. If you, if you don't work out. If I stop working out for a month, I'm going to gain weight.
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Josie Rushing
That's it.
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Michael Bostick
So I think you look at your lymphatic and your facial massage like that. It's. For me, it's something I do every morning on myself. You guys have seen it on my stories. I'll. I'll go see someone like you. I'm traveling. I'll see someone at a hotel.
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Josie Rushing
Yeah.
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Michael Bostick
Like it's. It's something you really don't stop.
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Josie Rushing
Yes.
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Michael Bostick
What would you say to those people?
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Josie Rushing
Yeah. They have to do is. Your example is perfect. It's not like you just don't do your nails once in your life.
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Michael Bostick
Right.
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Josie Rushing
You know, like your eyebrow, your hair. Like it's essential. It's essential. Our body is very, very smart. So when we do the lymphatic, obviously our body's gonna rebuild everything that we just try to get rid of. Otherwise we'd be dead. It's the same as our respiration, for example. If we start, we stop breathing, for example, obviously we're gonna be dead. So this the same thing with lymphatic system. Our lymphatic system is const. To get rid of like all the bacterias, viruses, pathogens, in general. Waste everything that is not good for us. Thank God we have a good immune system. So if we were not having that immune system working, we wouldn't be here. So you have to constantly be working on it, like your nails, your brows, your hair, your gym. That was a perfect example.
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Michael Bostick
I think too. It's like what you just said with hair. You get your hair dyed. You have to go get it done in another three months or two months or whatever.
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Josie Rushing
Yeah, that.
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Michael Bostick
It's kind of like. It's kind of like an essential that you just keep doing exactly the immune benefits of lymphatic. You mentioned here and there. So when you get the lymphatic massage, does it automatically activate your immune system?
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Josie Rushing
Absolutely. Yeah. So immune system is part of our lymphatic system. So when we do that, we are able to help to cleanse our body. So this cleans meaning that getting better with better bacterias, viruses, all pathogens, but not only this specific health part, but also our emotional part. If you stop to think, like, when we have a Brazilian lymphatic, you can get 30% decreased cortisol levels, which means. Yes, one session only. Which means we are talking about so many good benefits, not only for the immune system, but also cosmetic, but also with our, for example, cortisol levels, which means longer emotions, depression, anxiety, fatigue. So it's an overall treatment. I honestly don't know any manual treatment, work massage or whatever that you have that has so many benefits. Like a Brazilian lymphatic.
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Michael Bostick
It really is like, it's magical.
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Josie Rushing
It is.
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Michael Bostick
You've mentioned emotional throughout. Have you had people start crying or break down when you're doing the lymphatic?
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Josie Rushing
That already happened before. We. It's such a beautiful work, you know, like, we, as I. I'm a licensed massage therapist, so being working with our hands and we are literally putting that client of ours on a very vulnerable position. Right. So she's very vulnerable and she's kind of like letting us to work with her in so many levels. So they trust us. They want to be there and giving us everything that they can. So, yes, I've seen, like, clients that have been my client for years and years, and they feel very emotional. They feel very confident that they are there as well. And it's just such a beautiful, you know, like, work that we provide to our clients. It transcend anything that I can possibly. And able to verbalize it. It's just magical.
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Michael Bostick
I asked a lot of plastic surgeons this question, but I'm going to ask it to you differently. I asked plastic surgeons, I'm like, when you go out to dinner with someone, are you looking at their face to be like, oh, she needs a little fil filler there. She needs a little Botox there. A lot of them say that. Yes. Like, it's. It's hard to shut it off.
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Josie Rushing
Yeah.
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Michael Bostick
When you're out in the wild, in the public.
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Josie Rushing
Yeah.
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Michael Bostick
How do you know someone needs to get some lymphatic drainage massage stat. Like, what are the signs where you're like, fuck, yeah.
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Josie Rushing
There are so many. It could be internal, obviously, but, like, on the outside, like I said, acne could be one of the things, like majority of chronic diseases that we have are problems with the lymphatic system flow. So that lymphatic system is not helping. You talk about autoimmune disorders, for example, that reflects on the outside of the body. So water retention could be one of the options. Anxiety, depending. If I'm talking to the client or not. Fatigue could be another one. So, yeah, I kind of. Like, we see, like, water retention on their extremities. Cellulite also, you know when you see.
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Michael Bostick
Someone with really big eye bags. Yeah, Especially a lot of men have it. Yeah, a lot of, like, almost like a basset hound.
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Josie Rushing
Yes.
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Michael Bostick
I'm like, that person needs their lymphatic. People are like, oh, they're so tired. I'm like, no, no, no. They need some facial manipulation. Do you know what I'm talking about? Like a big bag.
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Josie Rushing
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, you said that guys have that a lot. Not all, but majority of the problems that we have over here on the under eye is lack of circulation, is lack of facial manipulation, fascia. So many things that we could help that client with. So, yeah, we kind of see it, you know, see it all. Yeah, we do.
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Michael Bostick
Celebrities, influencers. You've worked on everyone. I mean, it's all over your Instagram. Are celebrities getting so much plastic surgery that no one knows about and they're coming for lymphatic?
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Josie Rushing
Sometimes, yes, with the NEDA situation, obviously, and not only because of a piece of paper, but in respect to them as a. Like. Yeah, as a human being, I want to make sure that. That they are also have their privacy. But, yeah, plastic surgeon is a big one. I travel, like, I go to California. I'm here in Austin. I'm, like, in Nashville. So I have people coming to me because of surgery, but not only that, overall wellness as well. So I feel that they understand more and more how important it is. How important it is to detox from the inside out, to look good. Red carpets also, like I always do. Met gala. Yeah. Yeah. So they want to look, like, nice on red carpet.
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Michael Bostick
I saw you did Emma for the mat.
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Josie Rushing
Yeah, I always do that for the mat. Like, it's been about. I think it's the fourth year that I'm gonna work on her. Yeah. So I feel that is a mix of everything. They finally people are understanding in general how important lymphatic is. And this makes me really happy because it's one of my missions here in America to bring all these good benefits that we have in my country to kind of be the connection from Brazil to the United States as far as, like, beauty treatments, wellness treatments, and everything that we have there.
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Michael Bostick
You get a very unique perspective of plastic surgery because you're working with people in their most vulnerable state after they've had plastic surgery. And you're also someone who can see it up close.
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Josie Rushing
Yes.
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Michael Bostick
It's Almost like you're a spray tan artist. You know, I bet spray tan artists are sitting, but you're, like, really seeing it. What are the things that people are doing behind the scenes that no one.
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Josie Rushing
Is talking about as far as plastic surgeon? I think that now is trending a lot. The facelift.
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Michael Bostick
Yeah, we talked about this.
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Josie Rushing
Yeah, Facelift and also young, right? Yeah. Stay like, just a little bit here and there. Also the silhouette one that gets the waistline, you know, like.
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Michael Bostick
Like bbl.
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Josie Rushing
No, for the waistline. Is the silhouette one that they get the waistline.
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Michael Bostick
Like, what's that one? Is that the. Is that, like, liposuction?
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Josie Rushing
No, they. They come here with this, like, on their ribs.
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Michael Bostick
Okay.
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Josie Rushing
And they do a little bit of a work there to look like that. They are more snatched.
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Michael Bostick
Hold on. Is this the removal of ribs?
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Josie Rushing
Yeah, we can call that. Yeah.
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Michael Bostick
So they're removing ribs.
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Josie Rushing
Oh, my gosh.
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Michael Bostick
I'm saying it. I've seen stuff behind the scenes with this. I've talked to people who have done it. Yeah, they're removing one rib, two rib, three rib.
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Josie Rushing
No.
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Michael Bostick
How many ribs are we removing?
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Josie Rushing
Oh, it depends. It varies. It's not like a real removal. There is a very specific surgery that they do to the appearance. Be a little bit more shaped on the waist.
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Michael Bostick
Like, just like a rabbit. The. Yeah, the cartoon.
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Josie Rushing
Yes.
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Michael Bostick
And so there's a lot of, like, sculpting, but not sculpting. Like, people think with bbl, it's more like doing stuff to the ribs to create a silhouette.
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Josie Rushing
Yes, a silhouette, exactly.
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Michael Bostick
And so when people come to you after they've gotten a facelift, you can help the drainage happen better in the face.
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Josie Rushing
Yeah, that's really good. Because, like, not all. Not everybody knows how to deal with facelift because the lymph nodes are damaged. Could be damaged on that area because there was a trauma there. So sometimes even plastic surgeons, and I do not judge them, they do they not even want people to have lymphatic right after someone just had a facelift. Because I've seen a lot of people working maybe aggressively or to the wrong direction. Yes, the wrong direction over here. Because we have to think that when someone has a facelift, if they come over here from this side, we have lymph nodes that are on this area here specifically, but they are damaged because we've just had the trauma over there. So you cannot just overload damaged lymph nodes going to that direction. So they'll be wrong. So that's what we call transverse lymphatic so there is like a very specific. I don't want to go to specifics. I know, but I feel that people need to know that, especially the reason why plastic surgeons, sometimes they don't want to. They are patients who have lymphatic after a facelift. But yes, it's common. We do that. That's. I feel that's the trending one together with the. Maybe the abs also. They're like kind of creating sculpts.
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Michael Bostick
The abs.
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Josie Rushing
Yeah, sculpting the abs. And.
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Michael Bostick
But you're. I think you're also seeing a lot of facelifts because there's a lot of use of semi glutide.
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Josie Rushing
Yes.
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Michael Bostick
And when people lose weight quickly, there's extra skin.
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Josie Rushing
Yes, that would be my tummy tuck. Cho is very famous now because they are losing weight, they have extra skin. They have to get rid of that. And then they are doing tummy tuck, regular one or transverse tummy tuck as well. So I see that a lot. Yeah.
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Michael Bostick
If I ever got a tummy tuck.
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Josie Rushing
We already talked about that. She told me that, like 1 million times. No, we're not gonna talk to you anymore.
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Michael Bostick
If I ever got a tummy tuck, though, I'm just saying I would get the one that lifts up, not down.
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Josie Rushing
Need that. You're not. You don't need that. Lori, please don't do that. If you do that, seriously, I'm not gonna talk to you anymore. Don't touch me. Text me, please. You don't need that. I promise. You do not need that. There are. There are alternatives right now. Energized devices that you can talk to your doctor that can help with little tiny extra skin that you have after a baby.
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Michael Bostick
Like what?
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Josie Rushing
Non invasive ones. Energized devices that you can use over here. I can't say brands, but you can help to tie that skin. Radio frequency, medical grade, that can help you. Combined with lymphatic will increase circulation, we will increase all oxygenation, increase product production of collagen. We can help with my vitamin E. There are so many things that you can do there. I know plastic surgeons are gonna say, she needs it. Like, no, you don't need it. You don't need it.
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Michael Bostick
I'm just saying if you are gonna get a tummy tuck, my opinion, and please feel free to poke holes in this if there is some, is that you should get it. Get the tummy tuck pulled up. Up, not down. Yeah, I see, like, people getting it pulled down. And I feel. Why would. I don't get why you wouldn't Pull it up.
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Josie Rushing
Yeah.
- [28:07]
Michael Bostick
Do you know what I mean?
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Josie Rushing
Yes, I do.
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Michael Bostick
You want to lift up as you age?
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Josie Rushing
Yeah. Yeah.
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Michael Bostick
It doesn't make sense to me to pull down.
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Josie Rushing
Yeah. There. There are two options, actually. You know, like, you can go up and down, and I feel that each person is going to do whatever the doctor feels based on what they need. Needs are. I don't think everybody could do. Could kind of choose what they are wanting to do is more like a medical aspect of each person. But, yeah, I agree. And I love the results of, like, tummy tuck in general. You know, like, if done correctly, if you have extra skin, if you lost a lot of weight, why not? Which is not your case.
- [28:47]
Michael Bostick
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Michael Bostick
What are some things that you see up close with plastic surgery that you would, would advise against? You've seen you're. I feel like you're besides the surgeon. You're the next person that's seeing everything up close. But what's unique about what you do is you're seeing how it heals.
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Josie Rushing
Yes.
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Michael Bostick
So not only are you just seeing it in the surgery room, you're seeing the process of the healing and then you see it after it's done because maybe they come back to you again.
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Josie Rushing
Yeah, yeah.
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Michael Bostick
What is stuff that you would advise women against?
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Josie Rushing
How often they are getting this. So I see how often and when they should start. Sometimes we get opinions of plastic surgeons wanting to just get their lymphatic like a month after they got their surgery done. So like it's a big no. No. Like they have to start right away. A fun fact is that in Brazil some doctors actually allow us to do the lymphatic at the surgery center. I don't feel that this is ever going to happen here in America because of a lot of liabilities, but I feel that people should know that. So at first, when they are able to do a lymphatic like right away, after their tummy tuck, after their liposuction, breast augmentation, facelift, like it's literally like neck next Day they have to be laying down on my massage table.
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Michael Bostick
It's funny that you say that and I, I haven't talked with the audience about this one, but I actually am going to have you or someone that works with you come to the hospital after I have a baby.
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Josie Rushing
Yeah. That's incredible. That's so excited.
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Michael Bostick
I hope that they let you walk right in.
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Josie Rushing
Yeah, that's. That's okay. That's. We can try. Because I feel that, like I said, our lymphatic system doesn't stop, so why do we wait? It doesn't make any sense for us. Brazilians are in my head. We shouldn't. There are so many things we could do. Taping, for example, for lymphatic taping, we can help with so many things after surgery. If it is like postpartum or if it is just a static surgery, they should have been doing this like right away. And sometimes we get clients that come like, oh my plastic surgeon and said a month to come here a month later. And they are full of scar tissue.
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Michael Bostick
But the scar tissue is, is really messed up. If you don't get that fixed with lymphatic. It's not a joke. That's. I, I honestly think if I was like advising someone, what do I know? I would rather not get plastic surgery. If you can't get lymphatic drainage.
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Josie Rushing
Yeah. That's.
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Michael Bostick
I think it's a non negotiable.
- [36:38]
Josie Rushing
Yeah.
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Michael Bostick
I'd rather just surpass the. It's like you don't want to get a group on for plastic surgery. You don't want to get plastic surgery without lymphatic drainage after. Because you will get scar tissue.
- [36:49]
Josie Rushing
Yes.
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Michael Bostick
When it comes to having a baby. And I'm gonna have you come to the hospital. Why do you feel like that's so important for me? Because you've been talking about it with me. You think that, like you think I need it right away.
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Josie Rushing
Yes. First, we're gonna help with your water retention. Obviously you're gonna be super swelling, lots and lots of edema. And also is. We're gonna help with your immune system. So getting back to back. Getting back to your natural shape, let's say this will this way, because your body is going to be so traumatic from so many things that you take more time to heal in order to do that.
- [37:28]
Michael Bostick
And so what will you work on? Will you work on the whole body everywhere?
- [37:32]
Josie Rushing
We cannot. Yeah. That's another huge red flag if you guys ever go to have a lymphatic. A Brazilian lymphatic whatever lymphatic that you're gonna get that they were work only in one area of your body. That's not just the face or just the body. It's a big no. No.
- [37:49]
Michael Bostick
But you don't work on my stomach when I'm pregnant, Right. I've never seen you work on my stomach.
- [37:53]
Josie Rushing
No.
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Michael Bostick
Why is that?
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Josie Rushing
It's optional. It's not wrong. It's just my style. Because I feel that's very personal to the mom and that connection that she has with the baby. So I feel that's a connection that you have to have and not someone from the outside.
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Michael Bostick
I get that.
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Josie Rushing
But I'm not saying that it's wrong. Lots and lots of people are okay to do that. That would be beneficial with some lymphatic here. But I feel that I could just work on your flanks. I could work on the sides, because I put you on when you are on the sides. And I work a lot about here. It's just not specific on the stomach because I feel that it's very. It's a little moment that you have with your baby.
- [38:32]
Michael Bostick
So you're gonna come to the hospital after I give birth. And then my plan is, when I get out of the hospital, I'm doing belly binding. I've done this with all three of my kids. I. I swear by it. It's like, there's this girl, her name is Princess. She's in la. She has a belly binding company. And she comes and she ties like a. Like a beautiful material around your waist. And what it does is it sort of helps your uterus go back easier. And what I. My theory is, is that I get the lymphatic, I get the. The wrap. And then after I take the wrap off, I would come back to you and have you do lymphatic. And I think. I think those three things together, it's just gonna make such a difference.
- [39:13]
Josie Rushing
Such a difference. Such a difference for you. The way you feel, you're gonna feel lighter, you're gonna feel more energy. You're gonna have all of the benefits from the inside out. And if you're able to do that, any person is able to do that, just do it. Because we'll completely change your recovery.
- [39:30]
Michael Bostick
I would be crazy not to talk about your story. You have a wild story, and you are a story of perseverance and discipline and showing up day after day. I think it's important for the audience to hear tell us how your childhood was like in Brazil and how you decided to come to America. And bring this business here and you've grown this massive community which we're going to get into, but share sort of like the trajectory of that.
- [39:55]
Josie Rushing
Yeah, sure. So I'm from Brazil originally as by Accent House. And I came to Austin at first with my ex husband before I started this whole thing of helping people. I was just raised as a regular, I would say, like kid. I would say, I could say that I came from a very humble beginning. And here in America you have the possibility and change and like, possibility to grow and opportunities that I might not have had in Brazil. So in Brazil, I used to work with something that maybe that was not fulfilling me 100%. After a lot of, like, how do you say, like a lot of fight, I was able to create my own. I don't know, my own path of helping people. So yeah, I came from. I don't know, it's kind of like a little bit emotional just to remember everything that I had to go through to be here today and to be helping people.
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Michael Bostick
What were some of the things that you had to go through that I mean, you have such an inspirational story. Like, I feel it's just. What are some challenges that you had to overcome to be here?
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Josie Rushing
Well, I'm from a very small city, like 30,000 people. And obviously my mom didn't have money to pay for private schools or anything. So I used to work in the afternoon and go to school in the morning just to pay my own tuition. So everything started there. But since it was a very small city, city, I wanted something bigger. So I went to Sao Paulo, which is the biggest. One of the biggest cities in Brazil. And obviously I also didn't have money to that. So I took a bus and I just put like raw meat inside of my luggage because I was very worried of not having enough to eat because I was going by myself to Sao Paulo. And I just put everything and packed everything there, went to Sao Paulo and started shopping, work and getting subway. And just slowly. I remember that I used to stop at Avenida Paulista, which is a very defined center in Sao Paulo. Every time that I saw someone speaking in English because it was so amazing. And I was just stopped and I was looking like, just to hear, oh my gosh, someone is speaking English here. Oh, this is so cool. And I. Mom, I just. Just saw someone speaking in English. I need to learn that.
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Michael Bostick
And so you were attracted to. To Americans?
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Josie Rushing
Yes, yes. I don't mean.
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Michael Bostick
I don't mean like. Yeah, I don't mean.
- [42:31]
Josie Rushing
Just kidding. I'm kidding. I'm just.
- [42:32]
Michael Bostick
Her boyfriend's sitting here, he's smiling in your ear.
- [42:36]
Josie Rushing
I'm just kidding. But yeah, I always, I mean like, it was very tough. I have a lot of stories of the way that I was able to be able to grow this huge community that we have now. But I always like to focus on things that made me be here today.
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Michael Bostick
So you've built a massive business. You have a high ticket item that you sell, where you get to do courses and get access to you, but you also have brick and mortar and you have all of these incredible people that you've trained.
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Josie Rushing
Yeah.
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Michael Bostick
What is the journey and the evolution of that?
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Josie Rushing
Been like, that's amazing because when I first got here, I started having to have my schedule. Like, like first I started working on a spare bedroom of my apartment and I used to charge $35 per session. Yes.
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Michael Bostick
So if you would have met me, I would have said, I know.
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Josie Rushing
And then now it's like, okay, there's a huge difference to the 500, but it's okay. And when I was there in the my spare bedroom, my schedule started to be very, very busy. So I started to have like a month, two months of people wanting to come with me because they've seen the difference from others, they've heard from others. That's when I was like, I not able to do this by myself. So I started to have this pause. And the locations hiring massage therapists, their schedules were busy as well. And then I was like, I don't think I can deal with all of this because as you said, I came from a humble beginning. I didn't have enough like financial education, for example, that would teach me. My mom would tell me like, oh, this is, I didn't go to Yale, I didn't go to Stanford, I didn't have a business degree. I mean like I was learning crying during the night and during the day I was like, how do I solve this? How can I do this? So I was learning during the process. And after this pause, I was like, I feel that I have to share everything I know because every single client that lays down here, not only with me, but also my massage therapist, they out now they are wanting more. And they are looking on my Instagram. They're like, where can I find someone in Florida? Where can I find someone in New York? How about California? Every single day I have so many people asking for the my method specifically. So that's when I started training people on my technique.
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Michael Bostick
You probably saw a lot of people on social media probably doing it wrong too.
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Josie Rushing
Oh, my gosh. Yes.
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Michael Bostick
I'm sure that that's hard to watch if they're like. Like doing the inverse of lymphatic drainage.
- [45:08]
Josie Rushing
Yes. It's so bad because then at the end of the day is the client that is going home with a even worse result. Sometimes I feel like maybe we should not even provide lymphatic for someone if you're not 100% sure what you're doing. Because it's gonna be worst if you damage a lymph node, for example, because you are, I don't know, pumping on the wrong way with too much pressure. That little lymph node that the massage therapist damage can take 30 to 40 days to get recovered. So it's better not having a lymphatic than having with the wrong professional. So that's when I started my classes, and now we are in 22 countries, 45 states here in America with certified professionals on my technique. Brazilian lymphatic by Josie. Rushing the right way with the pressure points with everything that we were talking about now, I mean, like, it's not just do lymphatic, it's just not go. I don't know, go to Brazil and learn something there and start doing here. American bodies are different. Our lifestyle here is different. Our food here is different. Not here, but Canada or wherever. I have certified students.
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Michael Bostick
You love the skinny confidential dry brush.
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Josie Rushing
I do.
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Michael Bostick
But here's the thing. We want to make sure we're all using it right. Can you explain? Explain what? The importance of, like, maybe explain to us your tips and tricks of doing it at home and doing it right. Like, where you would start with it. You know, where to go up, where to go down.
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Josie Rushing
Yeah, Always towards the heart. I feel that if you're gonna do something right, just always think about that. You are gonna have to work with the dry brushing towards your heart.
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Michael Bostick
Okay.
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Josie Rushing
And the second thing that I feel that sometimes people are lacking is that we have to divide our body part parts into three that we call proximal, medial, and distal. So if I'm working, for example, on the forearm, the closest lymph nodes that I have from the forearm is here, my cubital nodes. So I divide this here in three parts. Proximal, medial, and distal. And I always start to work on the closest lymph nodes that I have over here.
- [47:19]
Michael Bostick
In this case, if by your armpit, you would start above your armpit.
- [47:22]
Josie Rushing
Yes. So here I'll divide in three and start to the closest one first, then medial and distal. And you can make this fun. I told you, my fiance does on me. I do on him. You know, like, it doesn't have to be something, oh, I have to do this. You can do like this. You can teach your partner how to do this every day, every week. It depends because it helps with exfoliation as well.
- [47:46]
Michael Bostick
Every single time before I have sex, Michael, I want to be dry brushed from head to toe or I'm not doing it right.
- [47:54]
Josie Rushing
I know it's a good one.
- [47:56]
Michael Bostick
A little habit stack for you.
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Josie Rushing
Okay.
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Michael Bostick
I have heard that you have to start at your ankles. Is that true?
- [48:03]
Josie Rushing
No, it's not true. You always have to. If you're going to do your leg, you have to start on your thigh and also divide in three proximal medio. And this time, and just so you.
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Michael Bostick
Guys know, the Proximo is the closest to the vagina, which is where the area is like right there where it drains, right?
- [48:20]
Josie Rushing
Yes, yes. Because what we have to think is that we have to clear that path to the others to come. So when you're talking about Proximo, closer here to the inguino, the growing area, we are cleaning up this path here. And then the medial, when it comes with that fluid, the proximal will be be cleared and then the distal will also follow. So the same thing happens to the whole leg. Why would you do the ankles first if you actually have to bring everything towards your heart? And all of your leg has to be cleared.
- [48:56]
Michael Bostick
So you would start right by the vagina.
- [48:58]
Josie Rushing
Yes.
- [48:59]
Michael Bostick
And then you would go to the middle of your thigh, and then you would go above your knee. And then you would go right behind your knee.
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Josie Rushing
Yes.
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Michael Bostick
And then do the same thing all the way down to the ankle.
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Josie Rushing
Ankles. Yes. On the shin, the same thing. Proximal, medium and distal.
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Michael Bostick
And how do you prep the face so it can drain properly? You know, I do this every morning, so I want to make sure I'm doing everything correctly. What do you do you like you. I think you told me to open up behind my ears. Explain exactly what to do there.
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Josie Rushing
Yeah, we have to pump the superficial nose. It's kind of like activate them for them to work properly. So you literally just have to do like two little fingers like this. And I like to call this like, like hula hula. So everybody remembers, imagine that you were doing like a hula hula. That's how you activate your lymph nodes. So you just like clip your ears, for example, and just do like a hula hula here. Same thing.
- [49:47]
Michael Bostick
That is how you Massage. It's a hula hula.
- [49:49]
Josie Rushing
Yeah, just the pumping.
- [49:50]
Michael Bostick
And if you guys want to see what the hula hula is, go on YouTube. Don't pop a boner, guys. Yeah, Then you go underneath your chin.
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Josie Rushing
Underneath the chin.
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Michael Bostick
And then you open up the clavicle as well.
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Josie Rushing
Exactly. Above the clavicle we have lots and lots of lymph nodes over here. Supra clavicle infra clavicle as well. Just have to do the hula hula as well. Imagine you're dancing a hula hula. That's exactly what you have to do in order to activate the lymph nodes.
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Michael Bostick
And when I do my facial massage with my hands or my tools, I'm always lifting up. Besides, under the eyes, I go in. Is that right?
- [50:23]
Josie Rushing
That's perfect.
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Michael Bostick
Okay, good.
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Josie Rushing
Yes. That's amazing.
- [50:26]
Michael Bostick
If you were going to say no, I was going to be like, no, it's right.
- [50:29]
Josie Rushing
Because a lot of people do the under eye wrong. They go out. They go out. And it should come in because we have the lacrimal duct right here. So we have to kind of bring all the fluids towards to the lacrimal duct.
- [50:41]
Michael Bostick
Okay. So you. So everything is lifting out, you guys, you lift out and up. And then you go in underneath the under eye. And then you can bring it down the neck to drain it.
- [50:50]
Josie Rushing
After you've pressed on this sides always. That's another mistake that I see a lot. So not here. You don't go down on the middle of your neck, only on the sides here you always go up.
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Michael Bostick
Oh, I didn't know that. Okay, so the middle of my neck I go up?
- [51:05]
Josie Rushing
Yes, you go up. You don't want to have like this falling.
- [51:08]
Michael Bostick
Okay.
- [51:08]
Josie Rushing
You know, like. So we go up just here, close to the thyroid here. And then on the sides you go down.
- [51:17]
Michael Bostick
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Josie Rushing
Yeah, sure.
- [54:53]
Michael Bostick
That'd be very helpful. I also sometimes use the dry brush to open up behind my ears before. Can you do that?
- [54:59]
Josie Rushing
Absolutely. You can do like the way that it's just does a little bit of a. I don't know how to say that. Scratch. Yeah, a little bit of scratch. That's kind of the same of opening the lymph node but with the dry brush.
- [55:11]
Michael Bostick
Okay. Geez, that was a huge lesson. I didn't realize that you went up in the middle of the neck.
- [55:15]
Josie Rushing
Yeah. That's very cool.
- [55:16]
Michael Bostick
That's something that I learned today. You guys, what do you do? This is is such an off tangent question, but I have to ask you because you're the perfect person. You work closely with a lot of different people. There's people who are listening, who are makeup artists or they do hair, or maybe they do what I do when they interview. And I've heard a lot of these people say that when they have to be around a lot of different personalities and energies, they have to do a practice before they do it. So for me, I. I do what one of my facial calls. It is zipping up. You zip your energy up. What do you do so you don't take on the person that you're massaging's energy?
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Josie Rushing
I work barefoot. Ah, 100%. Yeah, I worked. I went to your house and I'm sure you probably remembered I took her off.
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Michael Bostick
Well, I just like when everyone takes their shoes off. So I didn't notice that. I didn't know that you were barefoot, but I didn't know that. That's why.
- [56:09]
Josie Rushing
Yeah, that's why. Totally having connection to the ground, making sure that I'm not. I've actually, I just had like, like two cases in my. It's been almost 10 years that I've been working with this and I just had two cases that I felt a little bit weird. Very weird.
- [56:25]
Michael Bostick
Because like you took on someone's bad day.
- [56:28]
Josie Rushing
Yes. They were not nice as well. So.
- [56:32]
Michael Bostick
So what do you do? How do you get rid of that when you're done?
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Josie Rushing
We have to ground it. You know, like, we call this grounded in massage therapy. Yeah. Even though I was barefoot, that was just not something that was like our energies were pairing. So I just needed a little bit of a time. But after the session, I had a lot of headache. I think Derek remembers that. It's just like, that was really bad. I was having a very bad headache. I had nausea and I had it all. Huh. And then I just left grounded feet on the floor, on the earth. And then just breathing. Breathing respirations and just go back to my, My, My routine.
- [57:11]
Michael Bostick
Yeah. It's with what I do. I. Because some people are very open on the podcast and they'll say a lot of crazy stories. I mean, I've heard all different kinds of things. And you have to be able to almost have a bubble around you, but with what you do, you're touching people, which is a different. It's a different layer. And then also sometimes they can imagine they're like unloading on you.
- [57:38]
Josie Rushing
Yes.
- [57:38]
Michael Bostick
And so it's almost like you really have to be thoughtful with how you're showing up.
- [57:44]
Josie Rushing
Absolutely. And I see majority of my clients, women are women. So it's like that vulnerable position that we were talking about. So the ventral position that we are saying. So they are really open to share, really open to including energies. So just having balance. I mean, like, we learned how to.
- [58:04]
Michael Bostick
To.
- [58:04]
Josie Rushing
To deal with all that. I did learn throughout of the years. But yeah, it could be. Sometimes we can feel it. Definitely their energy.
- [58:13]
Michael Bostick
It's a good thing. It's mostly women because I feel like the men would pop a boner.
- [58:17]
Josie Rushing
This already happened. But it's natural. It's natural, you know, like, it's natural.
- [58:23]
Michael Bostick
So if you're massaging and they just pop one.
- [58:26]
Josie Rushing
Yes, yes. Let me explain. So I don't. People don't get this wrong. We are stimulating the lymphatic system, lymph flow and circulation. What does it cause? The erection? Circulation. So obviously, if the person doesn't have bad intention, if does happen could be like some legit thing. So we, when we are in school, we learn how to deal with that, you know, like, so if you are a real professional and a massage therapist, I mean, like, you're licensed. Because we see a lot of people out there that sometimes they're not even licensed. They don't know how to deal with that, you know, So I shouldn't gift.
- [59:04]
Michael Bostick
My dad a Lymphatic session. Maybe I shouldn't gift my grandpa a lymphatic session. Well, maybe my grandpa.
- [59:14]
Josie Rushing
Oh, maybe. Yeah. But I mean, it can happen. We are just. It's just. Honestly, Lauren, we just. For us, it's so.
- [59:23]
Michael Bostick
It's just whatever. It's like past the ketchup.
- [59:26]
Josie Rushing
Exactly. It's just like. It's natural. Like, it's just a picture is. I don't know, we see the muscles.
- [59:31]
Michael Bostick
Flick it out of the way.
- [59:32]
Josie Rushing
Yeah, no, it just. I mean, like, obviously, I don't want to encounter that every single time. Obviously.
- [59:37]
Michael Bostick
You know, like, hit it with the dry brush.
- [59:40]
Josie Rushing
Yeah, right. But it's just.
- [59:42]
Michael Bostick
Is that your pinky toe.
- [59:46]
Josie Rushing
Is a pee pee?
- [59:48]
Michael Bostick
Oh, it's so cute.
- [59:50]
Josie Rushing
Right? Then they're gonna say, oh, okay. But, yeah, I mean, like, obviously I don't want to deal with that, but who does? Yeah, but we understand. That is like, it's. It's a responsive react from the body.
- [60:04]
Michael Bostick
So, guys, don't be afraid to get lymphatic.
- [60:06]
Josie Rushing
Yeah, it's fine.
- [60:07]
Michael Bostick
It's okay.
- [60:08]
Josie Rushing
I have a lot of. Like, for example, I have clients, and they come in, they're women, and they're like, can you please see my husband? Can you, like, he wants to try this.
- [60:16]
Michael Bostick
I did that too.
- [60:17]
Josie Rushing
Yeah, right. So see, usually it's like by referral. We don't. We don't just, like, get walking.
- [60:22]
Michael Bostick
I'm putting a video camera in there when. When you work on Michael. And I'm going to be watching every little step.
- [60:28]
Josie Rushing
Now I'm scared.
- [60:31]
Michael Bostick
If he gets a boner, you better come back on this podcast.
- [60:34]
Josie Rushing
Oh, my gosh. I'll come back to tell you. I'm kidding.
- [60:37]
Michael Bostick
Tell us. Tell us. Give. Give me an update. I love a real time update. I could use a little leverage against him. You know, just something to throw out at the dinner table.
- [60:44]
Josie Rushing
Oh, Michael, this is not. Listen, I'm looking at the camera. This is not my idea. There was not. I have nothing to do with that, okay?
- [60:52]
Michael Bostick
Honestly, I go to the foot spa, and if they gave me a happy ending, I would just lay there. I feel so good. I'm just like, whatever.
- [60:58]
Josie Rushing
Oh, my gosh. The massage board is now revoking my license. It's like, no, Josie, you cannot have a license anymore.
- [61:08]
Michael Bostick
I would get in trouble if I was. No, you are very professional and very amazing, and I just think that you've built such a massive cool business before. You talk to us about where people can find you, and if people want to get certified in Your method. I want to bring Katie in.
- [61:24]
Josie Rushing
Okay.
- [61:25]
Michael Bostick
And if you guys are listening to this, you will need to go to YouTube because you'll only be able to see it on YouTube. And I want you to show. Show us with the dry brush how to activate the lymphatic system.
- [61:35]
Josie Rushing
Sure, sure.
- [61:35]
Michael Bostick
Let's come on in. We're gonna get an HR violation. Carson, will you grab Katie really quick? Because I want to show it on YouTube. People will love this because it's funny, it's light, but it's educational and informative.
- [61:48]
Josie Rushing
Yeah, yeah, that's good. They're not doing anything wrong.
- [61:52]
Michael Bostick
Okay, Take all your clothes off if you want to see Katie naked on YouTube.
- [61:56]
Josie Rushing
Go.
- [61:56]
Michael Bostick
Run. Katie. Will you be our model? Katie's gonna stand here.
- [62:01]
Josie Rushing
Okay. Okay. All right, so first, if they're working on their thigh, that should be the first one. They're just gonna divide in three parts, like we were saying, and just gonna make sure they go towards the growing area here. Yeah. And then after that, medial right here. Just bring it in and don't be shy. Go all the way in inside. We have a lot of people complaining about this area over here. And finally, they can go ahead and do. Do distal. So this is for the thighs, important for the back of the thigh. We have to make sure that we are bringing exactly everything to this lymph nodes here. So I feel a lot of people doing this. Bring everything from here towards to these lymph nodes over here. We do not have lymph nodes on this area here. That's good. You're going to have a little bit of a lift on your butt as well. As far as the knee. You can bring everything to the back over here. So you bring all to the popliteal area and the shin proximal as well. Bringing to the back. Mario here to the back, and distal there to the back. Okay.
- [63:11]
Michael Bostick
Oh, my God. And I just learned Katie, too. When you're doing facial massage, you always go up in the middle and down on the sides.
- [63:18]
Josie Rushing
Yeah.
- [63:19]
Michael Bostick
I've been getting Katie very into facial massage.
- [63:22]
Josie Rushing
Oh, cool. See, you got to do it.
- [63:25]
Michael Bostick
Where can everyone find you? Where can they apply for your courses? If you guys are listening and you're interested in getting your expertise in Josie's method, where can they stalk you?
- [63:36]
Josie Rushing
So if they want to find any of my locations is brazilicious. I have one in Austin, Texas. Nashville, Tennessee. And I often go to Beverly Hills as well.
- [63:46]
Michael Bostick
Okay.
- [63:46]
Josie Rushing
If they're not from any of these places, they can find certified students as well that were Trained by me. So they just can go online on detoxlovers.com and they are able to find also my certified students there. If you are a massage therapist or a body contour specialist, you can learn my technique as well. Just go and search for Josie Rushing on Instagram and I have a link there that they can learn in person or online.
- [64:14]
Michael Bostick
Do you want to give a code if someone wants to sign up for your classes and courses? Yeah.
- [64:18]
Josie Rushing
Do you like to help me with a code you can create?
- [64:20]
Michael Bostick
Can we do code skinny?
- [64:21]
Josie Rushing
Yeah, yeah.
- [64:22]
Michael Bostick
You pick the percentage off?
- [64:24]
Josie Rushing
Yeah, yeah. Let's say like 10%. Is that good?
- [64:26]
Michael Bostick
Code skinny gets you 10% off. You can learn her method. I will tell you, I am someone that has gotten massaged more than anyone in the world. I'm gonna. I. If there was a Guinness Book of world records, I. I am addicted to all kinds of massage. And your massage is superior. It's one of the best massages I've ever had. You're so talented. And you and I were supposed to meet. You already know this. We were like our frequency. We were supposed to meet. And I'm so happy to give your information to the whole audience. I'm sure a lot of them already know you. But if you guys have not gotten a Josie massage and it doesn't just have to be from Josie, it's your technique.
- [65:06]
Josie Rushing
Yeah, yeah. Brazilian beauty formula is the name of my certified students. So they can get with any of my certified students as well. And thank you so much.
- [65:16]
Michael Bostick
Yeah, guys, if anyone's getting plastic surgery or surgery, please check out lymphatic massage. It will make your recovery happen. Like it's night and day with the.
- [65:26]
Josie Rushing
Recovery non surgery, post surgery wellness cosmetic. Just think that Brazilian lymphatic can help with all of this in once I.
- [65:35]
Michael Bostick
Have had surgery without lymphatic drainage and with lymphatic drainage and I can tell you it doesn't. The recovery does not even compare.
- [65:45]
Josie Rushing
Yes, that's true.
- [65:47]
Michael Bostick
Check it out. Josie, thank you for coming on.
- [65:50]
Josie Rushing
Absolutely. My pleasure. Thank you so much for having me.