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Episode Title: Why The Way We Socialize Is Changing & How To Evolve Ft. Jake Bullock, Co-Founder & CEO Of Cann
Release Date: January 16, 2026
Host(s): Lauryn Bosstick & Michael Bosstick
Guest: Jake Bullock (Co-Founder & CEO, Cann)

Episode Overview

This episode explores how social drinking is evolving, focusing on the rise of THC-infused beverages as alternatives to alcohol. Jake Bullock, co-founder and CEO of Cann, discusses the journey of building a unique beverage brand, the changing landscape of alcohol alternatives, regulatory challenges, building company culture, and the broader health and societal implications of non-alcoholic socializing.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Origin & Early Days of Cann

• Epiphany and Market Insight
  • Jake noticed that while cannabis was being legalized, most products were either high-dose edibles or unappealing to mainstream consumers. He envisioned a beverage, low-dose, that mimics how people socialize with alcohol.
  • "If you have a young child, like a two year old waking you up at five in the morning, you do not want a parent hungover..." – Jake Bullock [02:59]
• Cann’s Unexpected Target Demographic
  • Cann initially targeted young, social millennials but quickly found an unexpected fanbase among young mothers, especially those seeking a mild way to unwind without a hangover.
  • “We found that actually young moms were like our killer customer.” – Jake Bullock [02:51]
• Early Distribution & Challenges
  • Launched in 2019 in LA, initially exclusive to dispensaries, causing scarcity. Demand was driven in part by difficulties accessing the product, adding to its allure.
  • "We would be like driving around LA, dropping it off. I mean, pretty much anyone that asked, we would give them product..." – Jake Bullock [02:07]

Brand Building and Celebrity Endorsements

• Approachable Branding for Cannbis
  • Cann focused on creating an approachable, appealing product with pastel colors and playful design to distance itself from the intimidating or “seedy” dispensary culture.
  • “We wanted to kind of meet that with something completely different. Right. It feels approachable... This is not the pot brownie experience you had in college that you're afraid of.” – Jake Bullock [07:35]
• The Role of Influencers and Early Supporters
  • The company actively pursued celebrities and industry influencers, offering product and seeking feedback to build buzz and cachet.
  • Gwyneth Paltrow was an early investor; Kate Hudson and Ruby Rose became involved through personal connections or their teams.
  • Hilarious moment: "Luke, my co-founder, said, we've met before. And she's like, oh my God, did we have sex? And we're like, dying laughing. He's like, no, you were my babysitter." – Jake Bullock on meeting Gwyneth Paltrow [12:00]
• Organic Growth in LA
  • The product succeeded with health-conscious celebrities due to its wellness slant and lack of hangover effects.

Fundraising and Navigating Start-Up Life

• Shifting Funding Environment
  • Early days were fueled by growth-focused investment; “people were literally throwing money” at brands with sales traction.
    • "Back in five years ago, everyone said, all that matters is growth. Just grow, grow, grow. We want to see your sales numbers doubling every year or more than doubling." – Jake Bullock [14:35]
  • The landscape changed, with more recent focus on profitability, gross margins, and business fundamentals.
  • Michael remarked on the dangers of over-prioritizing growth: “When it flipped, it was brutal for a lot of those companies...” [15:26]
• Building a Team and Company Culture
  • Jake emphasized the importance of attitude and effort in early employees: “People that are young, hungry, they want to learn, they'll figure it out.” [24:50]
  • The challenge of company growth means sometimes bringing in veterans over early hires, which can be a tough transition.

The Business of Beverages and Regulatory Hurdles

• Unique Challenges in Beverage Industry
  • Cann operates in a highly regulated “natural beverage” sector, complicating formulation and scaling.
    • "Beverage is really hard… When you layer on a highly controlled, intoxicating ingredient, you really do everything against you." – Jake Bullock [18:08]
• Hemp-derived THC & Looming Legislation
  • Cann currently uses hemp-derived THC and CBD, making the product federally legal and accessible in ~35 states.
  • A pending government bill could severely restrict hemp-derived cannabinoids, prompting Jake’s current lobbying efforts.
    • "They gave us a year… so the important thing is it's not necessarily a ban… the industry of good actors could go out and find (solutions)." – Jake Bullock [19:38]

Socializing, Health, & The Cannabis Experience

• Differentiating THC Beverages from Other Methods
  • Cann’s beverage is low-dose (2 mg THC), designed to create a “gentle, floaty buzz” similar to a single beer.
    • “This is nothing like (getting too high on edibles or bongs)... this is like having a beer versus drinking a bottle of vodka.” – Lauryn Bosstick [23:28]
  • Drinks absorb faster than edibles, with effects visible in 10 minutes and dissipating within an hour.
    • "These you'll feel in the first 10 minutes." – Jake Bullock [24:22]
• Safety and Social Function
  • Cann aims to offer a social, uplifting, but non-disabling alternative to alcohol; no severe hangover, and a more functional next day.
• Consumer Education
  • Potency and method of consumption matter: “Potency really matters… part of why people love these products is they're so low potency that you don't have to worry about all the scary anxiety, paranoia, long term health effects.” – Jake Bullock [39:28]

Entrepreneurship, Education & Leadership

• Educational Background Reflections
  • Jake shares that while college gave him foundational skills, the Stanford MBA’s entrepreneurial culture gave him the support—and the push—to pursue founding Cann.
    • “You have to know yourself. I think that's really key.” – Jake Bullock [33:12]
• Leadership Philosophy
  • Jake values humility, humor, and making people enjoy working together; “I think humor is such an important part of leadership that's often not talked about.” [34:05]
• AI in Modern Business
  • Cann uses AI to streamline product photography and redirect resources toward more authentic brand storytelling.
    • “If I outsource all…the ingredient photography to a machine, then I have more money to spend on capturing that moment at the pool with friends.” – Jake Bullock [35:57]
  • Lauryn uses AI as a hyper-personalized virtual assistant to plan her day, illustrating real-world, lifestyle adoption. [37:09]

Product, Taste Test & Final Notes

• Live Tasting Segment [41:54–45:10]
  • Hosts and guest sample Cann’s flavors, giving real-time feedback:
    • "Blood orange is really good, but I still like the grapefruit." – Michael Bosstick [43:16]
    • "No preservatives… all our juices are freshly squeezed, never from concentrate." – Jake Bullock [43:38]
• Effect Profile
  • "You'll feel the effects…in about 10 minutes… it will subside in about an hour." – Jake Bullock [44:05]
  • Discusses dosing, safety for adults, and why the effects aren't overwhelming like traditional edibles or smoking.
• Nostalgia and Packaging
  • Hosts rave about the design and nostalgic taste references (Spindrift, childhood drinks).
  • Safety note: Not for children, labeled as a 21+ beverage. [46:15]

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “If I was painting…hell, I would…it would be me hungover with my children, charging in in the morning…It feels like I'm landing on the beach in Normandy…”
  – Michael Bosstick [03:01]

• "This is not the pot brownie experience you had in college that you're afraid of."
  – Jake Bullock [07:35]

• "Luke, my co-founder…said, we've met before. She's like, oh my God, did we have sex? And we're like, dying laughing. He's like, no, you were my babysitter."
  – Jake Bullock describing meeting Gwyneth Paltrow [12:00]

• “Potency really matters… part of why people love these products is they're so low potency that you don't have to worry about all the scary anxiety, paranoia, long term health effects.”
  – Jake Bullock [39:28]

• “You have to know yourself.”
  – Jake Bullock [33:12]

Important Timestamps

• 01:18 – Cann’s real customer: moms, not millennials
• 04:05 – Jake’s inspiration: making cannabis social and approachable
• 10:13 – Celebrity influence and investment: Kate Hudson, Gwyneth Paltrow, Ruby Rose
• 14:35 – How fundraising and business climate shifted
• 19:38 – Looming legal challenges for hemp-derived THC drinks
• 24:22 – How Cann’s effects differ from edibles and alcohol
• 35:57 – Creative use of AI in Cann’s business and Lauryn’s morning assistant hack
• 41:54 – Live Cann taste test (Blood orange, grapefruit rosemary, cranberry sage)
• 44:05 – The science of Cann’s fast-acting, mild psychoactive experience

Conclusion

This episode offers an engaging deep dive into how social trends, health consciousness, and cannabis legalization intersect—and how Cann is shaping a new way to socialize, away from alcohol. The hosts and Jake Bullock blend business insights, cultural commentary, and practical tips for both entrepreneurs and health-conscious listeners, all with humor and authenticity. The conversation is inspiring for anyone interested in brand-building, wellness trends, or the future of social drinking.