The Glucose Goddess Jessie Inchauspé On The Truth About Blood Sugar, Energy, & Managing Cravings

Summary

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The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Show

Episode: The Glucose Goddess Jessie Inchauspé on The Truth About Blood Sugar, Energy, & Managing Cravings

Date: March 9, 2026
Guests: Jessie Inchauspé (Glucose Goddess)
Hosts: Lauryn Evarts Bosstick & Michael Bosstick

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Episode Overview

In this highly requested episode, Lauryn and Michael sit down with Jessie Inchauspé (aka the Glucose Goddess), a renowned French biochemist and best-selling author. Jessie is devoted to translating the cutting edge of glucose science into actionable, everyday tips for better physical and mental health. The conversation ranges from managing energy and cravings, glucose's impact on pregnancy and child development, to busting nutrition myths and offering approachable blood sugar hacks for all stages of life.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Food Environment: France vs. USA

[01:31-03:00]

• Jessie, as a Parisian, describes how eating healthy is much easier and more affordable in France compared to the U.S.
• "In France, it's cheap to eat healthy. ... Here, it's a trek. I have to go to Whole Foods to get the nice produce. And things are way more expensive." (Jessie, 01:38)

2. Eye-Opening Glucose Discoveries

[03:20-04:27]

• Most mind-blowing finding: The order in which you eat your food dramatically affects glucose response.
  • Eat veggies first, then proteins/fats, then starches/carbs = smaller glucose spike.
  • "Veggies first. I need to make like a T-shirt that says that." (Jessie, 04:03)

3. The Impact of Pregnancy Diet

[04:27-06:42]

• What you eat during pregnancy can shape your baby’s brain, body, and lifelong health—DNA is not the only factor.
• Example: Baby A (with prenatal choline, omega-3s, low sugar) has better IQ, coordination, and lower diabetes risk than Baby B (nutrient-poor, high sugar diet).
• Jessie’s new book focuses on practical guidance for pregnancy nutrition.

4. Unpacking Glucose & Spikes

[07:47-11:18]

• Glucose = body’s primary energy source, supplied mainly by carbs (starches & sugars).
• Glucose spikes result from eating too many carbs/sugar at once—leads to inflammation, weight gain, fatigue, and faster aging.
• "With every glucose spike, you're aging faster." (Jessie, 10:19)

5. Glucose Monitors: Why & How

[11:18-12:37]

• Jessie and Michael discuss wearing continuous glucose monitors for real-time feedback.
• Glucose crash after a spike explains many cravings and mid-day fatigue.

6. Hacks to Manage Glucose

[12:15-18:05]

• Pair carbs/sugar with protein, fat, or fiber: e.g., eat almonds with sweets to slow glucose spikes.
• Alcohol: Wine alone doesn't spike glucose, but cocktails with added sugar do.
• Vinegar: A tablespoon before a carb meal can reduce the spike by up to 40%.
  • "Vinegar contains this magical molecule that slows down how quickly carbs turn to glucose." (Jessie, 17:44)
• Move after meals: Walking or doing mild exercise helps lower glucose.

7. Kid & Family Strategies

[18:05-19:07, 50:23-51:08]

• Give kids veggies before dinner or snacks to start with fiber.
• Replace sugary juices with whole fruits; avoid fruit juices and smoothies.
• "Veggies first, move after eating, put clothing on your carbs." (Jessie, 18:32)

8. The Personal Story: Why Glucose?

[27:04-30:05]

• Jessie’s health struggles after a back injury included severe mental health symptoms, only improving after glucose monitoring revealed that spikes triggered her episodes.
• Led to her passion in researching and teaching about glucose management.
• "Nobody ... ever said look at your diet, ever. ... Thank you, universe, for showing me this." (Jessie, 29:10)

9. Mental Health & Blood Sugar

[35:15-35:47]

• Studies show more glucose spikes correlate with increased depression and anxiety symptoms.
• Low glycemic (glucose-steady) diets help people report fewer mental health symptoms.

10. Food Myths & Practical Application

[36:01-40:18]

• Fruit: Whole fruit is fine, juice/smoothies spike glucose.
• Most supermarket fruit is much sweeter than wild/ancestral varieties.
• "All the fruit in the supermarket today has been bred for centuries to make them super sweet and juicy." (Jessie, 39:06)
• "If you do like a vegetable juice, it's fine, because vegetables don't contain sugar." (Jessie, 40:03)

11. Veganism & Nutrient Gaps

[41:25-42:06]

• Vegan isn't automatically healthy; many vegan foods are highly processed and sugary.
• Prioritize protein, omega-3s, whole foods.

12. Fundamental Glucose Tips

[42:27-43:02]

• Focus on proteins, healthy fats, veggies; eat carbs strategically.
• If Jessie could change one thing: eliminate sweet breakfasts in favor of protein-rich ones.
• "I'd replace all of those with an omelette." (Jessie, 43:16)

13. Pregnancy Nutrition Pillars (as in Jessie’s upcoming book)

[51:10-53:43]

• Choline: Key for brain development (eggs, liver, meat, fish).
• Protein: Critical for building baby's body (>1.5g/kg/day in later trimesters).
• Omega-3 (DHA): Boosts child’s IQ.
• Sugar: Intake passes directly to the fetus—spikes in mom = spikes in baby.
• Dispelling myths: Pregnancy diet does matter, baby does not always get needed nutrients.

14. Common Misconceptions About Jessie’s Work

[54:59-55:42]

• Jessie is not anti-sugar, nor is her approach about restriction.
• It’s about balanced, sustainable strategies—not eliminating the foods you love.

15. GLP-1 Drugs & Weight Loss

[55:42-57:01]

• GLP-1 (weight-loss) drugs curb hunger but don’t solve underlying food quality issues.
• "It's kind of like ... our solution is not to clean the water, but to give people a drug that makes them less thirsty." (Jessie, 55:49)

16. Glucose Management & Weight/Fat Loss

[57:38-58:59]

• Stabilizing glucose leads to fewer cravings and helps release stored fat.
• "Naturally ... when you have high glucose levels, your body is in fat storage mode." (Jessie, 58:19)
• Side effect—not main goal—of glucose hacks: losing excess weight.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the importance of eating order:
  “Start with the veggies. ...They create this sort of protective mesh in your intestine that slows down the arrival of the carbs in your bloodstream.” (Jessie, 04:03)

• On mental health and glucose:
  “Big glucose spikes could trigger these episodes of depersonalization. ...Nobody ... ever said look at your diet, ever.” (Jessie, 28:44, 29:10)

• On fruit myths:
  “All dogs have been, quote unquote, engineered by humans. Fruit is the same. ...All the fruit in the supermarket today has been bred for centuries ... to make them super sweet and juicy.” (Jessie, 38:52, 39:06)

• On pregnancy diet's power:
  “Your baby's body and brain is shaped by your pregnancy diet. Same DNA, but two different diets will give birth to two different babies.” (Jessie, 04:28)

• On balancing enjoyment and strategy:
  “It's not like you're telling people ... not to eat the donut. No, you're just saying have a strategy around the donut.” (Lauryn, 33:10) “I want to control my donuts. I don't want the donuts controlling me.” (Jessie, 33:28)

• On GLP-1 drugs:
  “It’s like ... if the water was toxic and our solution was not to clean the water, but to give people a drug that makes them less thirsty. That is literally what's going on with food.” (Jessie, 55:49)

• On child behavior & food:
  “I've talked about this on the show, but [kids] come home after a birthday party and they're maniacs ... because they've had the birthday cake and pizza ... Now I'm going to be more strategic with giving them veggies and protein before.” (Lauryn, 50:23)

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Handy Timestamp Reference

• 01:38: Jessie on the French food environment
• 03:20: The shocking research on eating order and glucose spikes
• 04:27-06:42: Pregnancy diet shapes baby’s lifelong health
• 07:47: “Glucose” explained in everyday language
• 10:19: “With every glucose spike, you're aging faster.”
• 12:15: Why pair sweets/carbs with protein/fat
• 17:44: Vinegar hack for lowering glucose spikes
• 27:04-30:05: Jessie’s personal health journey: back injury to glucose science
• 35:15: Connection between glucose spikes & mental health
• 39:06: Modern fruit is much sweeter than ancestral/wild types
• 51:10-53:43: Four pregnancy nutrition pillars
• 55:49: GLP-1 drugs analogy

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Practical Blood Sugar Hacks from Jessie

• Veggies first: Start every meal with vegetables (fiber protects against spikes)
• Eat proteins/fats before starches/carbs
• Pair carbs or sweets with protein/fiber/fat
• Vinegar: 1 tbsp in water before carbs = up to 40% lower spike
• Move after meals: Take a walk to use up circulating glucose
• Avoid sweet breakfasts: Switch to protein-based (e.g., eggs)
• Whole fruits over juice/smoothies
• For kids: Prep veggies/raw snacks before main meal; teach them to pair sweet treats with nuts or cheese

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Jessie's New Book

Title: The Nine Months That Count Forever: How Your Pregnancy Diet Shapes Your Baby’s Future
Release: March 2026; Available for preorder.
Covers everything discussed on pregnancy diet pillars.

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Connect with Jessie

• Instagram: @glucosegoddess
• Website/book: Glucose Goddess

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This episode is an essential guide to making glucose management approachable and impactful for everyone—from parents and fitness enthusiasts to anyone seeking better energy, mind, and long-term health. Jessie’s perspective is warm, practical, and evidence-based, making complex science not only accessible but empowering—no food shame required.

Transcript

[Jesse Inchauspé]

The following podcast is a Dear Media Production.

[Michael Bostic]

She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire.

[Lauren Everts]

Fantastic.

[Michael Bostic]

And he's a serial entrepreneur, a very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic

[Lauren Everts]

are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness.

[Michael Bostic]

Welcome to the Skinny Confidential him and her. Hello everybody. Welcome back to another episode of the Skinny Confidential him and her show. Today we have Jesse in Chopay who is also known as the Glucose Goddess on this podcast she is a much requested long awaited guest. We've wanted to speak to Jesse for a long time. For those of you that are unfamiliar with Jesse, she is a French biochemist, founder and New York Times and international best selling author. She's devoted her career to translating cutting edge science into easy tips to help people improve their physical and mental health through her books Glucose Revolution and the Glucose Goddess Method and has reshaped the global conversation around blood sugar. Today we're going deep with Jesse talking all about the groundbreaking guide to glucose science backed hacks for empowering Nutri at every stage of life and the importance of glucose and how it could be harming you. We also talk about pregnancy, nutrition and breaking stigmas around food and how to nourish our bodies. Again, this episode has been long requested long awaited guests. I'm glad we did it because we got to sit down with Jesse in our studio here in Austin, Texas and we had such a great time with that Jesse. Welcome to the Skinny Confidential him and her show. This is the Skinny Confidential him and her.

[Lauren Everts]

When you come from Paris to the United States for a month, what happens to your diet here? I'm curious.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

I spend a lot more money to eat healthy. Do you see what I mean? Like in France, it's cheap to eat healthy. Yeah, you just go to the grocery store and you buy vegetables every day for your dinner. You buy fresh meat, fresh stuff. And here it's. It's a trek. Like I have to go to the Whole Foods etc to get the nice produce. And also things are way more expensive here so I have to think about it more.

[Lauren Everts]

So you have to almost have a strategy on how you eat here. Whereas Paris, it seems like it's just kind of second nature.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Yes. And the restaurants in France, most places have very healthy options. You'll find really good salads, nice meat, nice fish omelettes. It's just kind of. That's the baseline menu at any corner restaurant in Paris. Here it's very different. So I have to have a strategy so that I don't feel like crap because Usually when I come here, it's to work, so I have to make sure. Also, you know, my glucose is steady. I feel good. So it's a calculation. I make sure that the place I'm staying is not too far from, like. Well, in la, it's like Erwan or Whole Foods. Yeah, yeah.

[Michael Bostic]

In LA you have a lot of options, though. But it is expensive.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

It's very expensive.

[Michael Bostic]

Yeah.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

And you don't. The main difference is in France, you go to the butcher, the fish guy, the produce people, and you go there every day on your back from work. You stop by because there's one of these places, you know, next to every single home, and you buy the food for dinner every day. So you buy a little bit of food every day. Here you do big batches of supermarket grocery shopping. Different vibe.

[Lauren Everts]

Oh, I love Paris vibes, though.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Come hang out.

[Lauren Everts]

I will, don't worry. Michael, I would love a trip for Valley. You have been doing this for a long time. We have been harassed by the audience to get you on the show. So it's really cool to finally be doing this. Out of all of the years that you've done what you do, what has been the craziest finding that blew your

[Jesse Inchauspé]

mind in the glucose world? The craziest finding for me was when I saw the studies that said that the order you eat your food in has an impact on the blood sugar response of that meal. So if you eat your veggies, then proteins and fats, then starches, you get a much smaller glucose spike than if you eat the carbs first.

[Lauren Everts]

God damn it, I'm doing it wrong.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

What are you eating first? Bread.

[Lauren Everts]

The carbs. I know you're not supposed to do that.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Well, start with the veggies.

[Lauren Everts]

Okay, Okay. I, I actually, I'm doing protein first normally, But I just had a plate before I saw you, and there was sweet potatoes and I had a couple bites of that first.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

It's okay, I forgive you.

[Lauren Everts]

Okay, so you sins are forgiven. The vegetables, the protein, and then the carbs.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Exactly, because when you have the veggies first, that's the key, Veggies first. I need to make like a T shirt that says that the veggies contain fiber. And so they create this sort of protective mesh in your intestine that slows down the arrival of the carbs in your bloodstream afterwards. So that was the biggest discovery for me. It's like the order matters. And now I'm in a sort of second chapter of research that has to do with pregnancy. So I just had my baby boy six months ago.

[Michael Bostic]

Congratulations.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Thank you. I know you guys have beautiful kids, so congrats to you as well. I also learned in that domain of science that DNA is one thing, but what you eat during pregnancy changes what kind of baby you give birth to. Essentially, like your baby's body and brain is shaped by your pregnancy diet. Same DNA, but two different diets will give birth to two different babies. That was mind blowing.

[Lauren Everts]

When you say two different babies. Give us baby A and baby B.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Okay, so baby A is a baby who had a lot of choline, which is a nutrient found in eggs and meat and fish, lots of choline, which is very important for the brain. A baby who had a lot of Omega 3s, so that's something found in fish and that a lot of people supplement with. So that means his brain developed with all of the nutrients that he wanted. So neurons grew as much as they wanted, number of brain cells grew as much as they wanted. And we can see a measurable difference in things like reaction time, hand, eye coordination, iq. As a toddler, Baby A also did not have too much sugar from his mom during pregnancy, which means his metabolism was not vulnerable to getting diabetes later in life. Baby B didn't have any choline, didn't have any Omega 3s, had a mom who ate, you know, 50 cookies every single day. And the mom didn't know that she should not be doing this. And this baby will be more vulnerable to getting type 2 diabetes later in life and will have a brain who will have developed in a slightly more suboptimal situation. So your diet during pregnancy sort of co creates your baby's setup, body and brain setup. And that's the topic of my new book.

[Michael Bostic]

It makes a lot of sense, though, when you think about it, right? If you're giving it the nutritional building blocks to do certain things, the same things that we as adults are eating for and supplementing for, it would make sense that the baby would come out that way.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Absolutely. And the nine months of pregnancy are very important, very critical moments. And a lot of moms are told, oh, don't worry about it. Your baby will get what he needs from you. Or we're often compared to ovens. You know, a bun in the oven is something you hear, but we're not ovens. What we eat matters for our child. It matters to his development. And the baby will not always get everything that he needs. He'll get what the mom gives him. And this is very important information that I want to make sure people learn

[Michael Bostic]

about how has that information been received when you share it? I imagine this subject in particular is very touchy. Obviously, people care very much about their children and birth and all those things, especially as parents. Has it been received positively, negatively, controversially?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Well, the stuff I share in this book is not actually new. These are big World Health Organization guidelines, American association of Pediatrics guidelines. Like, these are things that we've known for a long time, but for some reason, they haven't been properly communicated to moms. So what I'm trying to do is just bring all this info and these guidelines and put light on them, shed light on them so that moms have access. So the reactions range from empowerment, excitement, to feeling like, oh, my God, but I already had my kids. Is it too late for me feeling guilty? So it's a complicated thing to navigate because pregnancy comes with pressure, like, you're building a human being. Right. And so it's complicated to know what to do with that pressure. But in this book, I hope I give moms to be four simple tips to help navigate that pressure in a simpler way.

[Lauren Everts]

The word glucose to me is overwhelming.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Okay.

[Lauren Everts]

Because unpack it. Yeah, I feel like I need to start with that and unpack it. As a kindergartner, I don't know if it's because I'm scared of blood.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

You're scared of blood? Yeah.

[Lauren Everts]

Or needles. But that word, like, I don't really know what it means when someone says to spike your glucose.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Okay, let's talk about it.

[Lauren Everts]

Explain that.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Okay, so glucose is your body's energy. So right now, as we're talking, all of our brains are using glucose to think. Our hearts are using glucose to pump. If you move, your hands, your hand muscles are using glucose to move. So it's the energy your body uses to do everything. Okay, and how do you give your body this energy? By eating foods that contain it. So carbs basically contain glucose. And you have two categories. Starches. So that's bread, pasta, rice, potatoes. Those contain glucose and then sugars. So anything sweet from an apple to a chocolate ice cream also contain glucose. So when you eat either starches or sugars, the glucose molecules go from the food to your stomach to your. I won't say it. Bloodstream to your bloodstream. And that's where the glucose gets brought to all of your cells. So to give you energy.

[Lauren Everts]

So why is everyone wearing these glucose monitors? Like, what does that accomplish?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Because some glucose is good. But if you give your body too much, glucose problems start happening. It's like if you have a plant you know, to give it some water. But too much water and the plant drowns. Right. Human body is the same. Some glucose is fantastic. Too much is not good. So I'm wearing mine also because.

[Lauren Everts]

Oh, my God, I'll faint.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Sorry, sorry, sorry.

[Lauren Everts]

If anyone talks to me with a glucose monitor, I might think I'm not wearing.

[Michael Bostic]

You think it's like this deep needle?

[Lauren Everts]

No, no, it's just something about having a needle in your body. I'll faint. I don't know.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

I'm not wearing one. Don't worry.

[Lauren Everts]

Okay.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

It was totally, you know.

[Michael Bostic]

So in an extreme example of too much glucose could be like diabetes, Correct?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Exactly right.

[Michael Bostic]

So, like, if you go, that's like the extreme.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

That's the extreme, yes. And so why is much glucose bad? Because when you have a lot of glucose in your body at once, inflammation increases. And inflammation is not good. Inflammation is one of the main killers of our lifetime. So inflammation increases. And also your body tries to get rid of this excess glucose, so it puts it into your fat cells. And that's one of the ways that we gain fat on our body.

[Michael Bostic]

If someone's struggling with weight management, it's likely they have too much glucose consistently. Or if they struggle with inflammation, it's. Maybe they're. There's too much glucose, they're overdoing it into. That is. It is. And how do you spike the glucose? Is that a bad diet, too much sugar, alcohol?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

It's by eating too many carbs and sugars at once. So if you have a meal that's bread, then spaghetti, then more bread than chocolate than a cookie, than ice cream, that's 100% carbs, it's all glucose. So you're going to get a big glucose spike. A spike just means, like, a rapid arrival of glucose in your bloodstream, and that spike carries the consequences. I just mentioned the inflammation, the weight gain, et cetera. So why do we want to prevent the spiking? Because we want to prevent the negative consequences in our body. And also, lots of glucose makes us age faster. So with every glucose spike, you're aging faster. So I manage and I look at my glucose levels because even though I know a lot about what I need to do to keep it steady, things happen. Like, I'm in Austin today, so I'm going to eat something at the airport. I want to have a look at what's going on in my body so I can learn and so I can adapt. So, for example, if I ate something that would spike me, I'd be like, oh, I might Just go for a walk before I come and do this podcast to get my glucose levels back down. And I like getting the real time insight.

[Lauren Everts]

Do you always have it on?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Pretty much. I would say no. Like maybe 70% of the time.

[Michael Bostic]

So the monitor basically informs you instantly exactly when you make choices with food or behave, whatever.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

On my phone, I get 24,7 my levels of glucose in my body.

[Michael Bostic]

So what are some of the. More. I guess if I'm kind of curious about this for myself.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

You should try it for two weeks.

[Lauren Everts]

If he does the glucose monitor, I'll

[Michael Bostic]

go sleep somewhere else. That's fine. No, I'm doing it.

[Lauren Everts]

Go sleep somewhere else. I can't do it. I'm too nervous.

[Michael Bostic]

If I said right, doesn't it hurt?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

No, not at all.

[Michael Bostic]

If I.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

If I said it so. By the way, it's not a needle. It's not a needle.

[Michael Bostic]

Yeah, it's like a. It's like a little velcro patch almost

[Jesse Inchauspé]

kind of pretty much. Yeah.

[Michael Bostic]

Yeah. So if I said Jesse, it reminds

[Lauren Everts]

me of the castor oil thing that you put on your belly button every night.

[Michael Bostic]

But if I were to give you, like, and say, okay, eat this small bag of. Of gummy bears right now, that would spike your glucose, right?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Probably. Yeah.

[Michael Bostic]

Right.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

I mean, depending how small or big it is.

[Michael Bostic]

But sounds like a normal size airport bag. It would spike.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

I would say, Michael, have some almonds at the same time so that you balance the blood sugar spike. Because we just talked about the spike. Well, what comes after the spike? The crash. And the crash. The bigger the spike, the bigger the crash. And crash leads to cravings, fatigue, and hunger. So you want to avoid the spikes because you want to reduce inflammation and aging, and you want to avoid the crashes because you don't want to feel tired.

[Michael Bostic]

So when somebody is spiking and all of a sudden you get that craving for junk food that is likely you're experiencing in your body a glucose crash.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Very likely. Yeah.

[Lauren Everts]

If you're gonna have a glass of wine and you're in Paris, what are you having to balance that out?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Protein before.

[Lauren Everts]

Okay.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Yeah. Never on an empty stomach. Protein. Or some nuts, little olives that they usually give you when you have a glass of wine. So alcohol on an empty stomach is gonna be worse for your body than alcohol after food. But here's the cool thing. Wine does not spike your glucose level.

[Lauren Everts]

Really?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So alcohol does not. What does spike your glucose levels is sugar that's added to a cocktail. So, for example, a Mojito, Cosmopolitan etc. That have sugar in them that'll spike you.

[Lauren Everts]

So if you just have a glass of wine, it doesn't spike it?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

No, but it doesn't mean the glass of wine is good for you. Glucose is not everything. You can eat something that doesn't spike you, that's still not very good for you because glucose is just one aspect of health.

[Michael Bostic]

What are some of the in your findings, what are some of the things that spike our glucose in a negative way? The most what, what that are in our diet?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Fruit base, fruit based healthy thing like fruit based smoothie, 100 fruit smoothie or granola with a healthy honey or healthy coconut sugar. All of these things that are actually really sweet, they're just sugar. It's not because something comes from fruits or something is with unrefined coconut sugar that is better for you. It's still, it's still sugar, it'll spike you.

[Michael Bostic]

Are there times and this may sound like a strange question that you do want to spike your glucose, like maybe for a workout or something or no.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

So workouts can spike your glucose. So there's something you have to know is that you eat glucose, but your body can also make some from the inside if you need more for your muscles. So when you exercise intensely, sometimes your liver will be like, oh, we need more glucose for our muscles and we'll just release a bunch of glucose into your bloodstream. You'll see a spike, but it doesn't come from food, it comes from the exercise. In this case, the spike is not actually harmful.

[Michael Bostic]

You want that spike for the muscles.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Not necessarily. Like if you fuel properly before a workout, you're probably not going to get the spike from your liver.

[Lauren Everts]

How would you fuel before a workout knowing everything you know about glucose?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

I would do a combo of protein and some whole fruit. So glucose is helpful for your muscles to be able to do what they need to do. So if you have some glucose in your system, you'll be able to do more explosive work. So, you know, I lift weights and for weightlifting it's nice to have some of that explosive thing. I'm not going to go for a two hour long slow bike ride. I like to do kind of hit intensity stuff. So I would do peanut butter and banana classic. Super good. Very nice. There's carbs in there. But also the peanut butter is going to slow down the sugar from the banana. So you get a nice steady curve and your body will be fueled with the sugar.

[Lauren Everts]

Sandy, our trainer said that we should eat something very similar to that. She Said two eggs.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Yeah.

[Lauren Everts]

Or three.

[Michael Bostic]

I do four eggs before.

[Lauren Everts]

Okay. But sometimes, like you eating eggs in the morning right away is like, oh, but she said two eggs. If you can only stomach two and a half of a banana.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Yeah, sounds great.

[Lauren Everts]

She said she likes that for us before we lift. That's really interesting. I didn't know that it had to do with glucose.

[Michael Bostic]

You said you weightlift. Have you or have you done any, like.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

I'm not like a professional weightlifter.

[Michael Bostic]

Okay, but, but, but you say it's a modality that you like.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Absolutely.

[Michael Bostic]

And have you done any studies on showing what a lot of cardio does to glucose levels of their nuts?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

What do you mean? Like, do they reduce?

[Michael Bostic]

Does it reduce or does it? Or does it.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

So a very effective thing, like if you see a spike in your body, an effective thing would be to just go for a long walk or do a little cardio, because that's going to use up the sugar in your bloodstream, the glucose in your bloodstream.

[Lauren Everts]

You seem like you like a long walk for. For managing. I've heard you say that before.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

I'm French. No, we like walking. I can't walk anywhere here. You got to take cars all the time. Well, what's up with that?

[Michael Bostic]

Where are you most of the time? Like in the States? Yeah, yeah, yeah. L A is not really a walking place.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

No.

[Lauren Everts]

Go to sun life.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Okay.

[Lauren Everts]

But walk around the lake.

[Michael Bostic]

LA is really like a place like you kind of like are in the area and you have to drive there. New York's better for walking.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Yes, right. Love New York.

[Michael Bostic]

Yeah.

[Lauren Everts]

So when you think of your perfect glucose dinner, that's really amazing. Okay, and what if the audience is listening? What would you tell them to make?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

So my brain goes to pasta, because I love pasta. So if I were to make a dinner that contains pasta, but it's good for my glucose levels, I would make a veggie starter. So I'd make like some nice roasted broccoli with like tahini, a bit of chili, something like that as a starter to get the fiber to protect me from the spike. Then I'd do a protein, so I don't know, like a nice piece of turkey or beef or anything. And then I'll make a nice big plate of spaghetti and with ton of parmesan and olive oil and sea salt. Sounds good, no? And then for dessert, I mean, fruit is always a very good option if you want something sweet but not too spiking of your glucose. You can eat anything you want and still keep your glucose Levels steady and managed if you learn these little tips. So we talked about the veggies first. We talked about pairing a piece of fruit or sugar with like, some almonds or some nut butter. Other stuff you can do vinegar. Vinegar is very interesting. So you have a little glass of water there, Michael. If you put a tablespoon of vinegar in there and drink it before you eat carbs, you're going to lower that glucose spike of those carbs by up to 40% because vinegar contains this, like, magical molecule that slows down how quickly carbs turn to glucose in your digestive system.

[Lauren Everts]

Can you eat them with, like, cucumber? Yeah, I love vinegar and cucumbers.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Like pickled cucumbers?

[Lauren Everts]

Yeah.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Yeah.

[Lauren Everts]

That's so good. So how do you tell moms to serve their kids? Is it the same formula?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Yeah.

[Lauren Everts]

So you do vegetables, protein, carbs.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

A really good tip is while you're making dinner, if your kids are a bit hungry, just serve some pieces of, like, raw carrots or celery or cucumbers. Put them on the table. They can just kind of nibble on them before dinner. So they get a veggie starter in there before you even sit down. And there's a big thing for kids, which is we have to get. Get rid of the idea that fruit juice is healthy. So whole fruit is fine. Fruit juice is just sugar. So there's a lot of marketing in there that we have to unpack. But yes, same things apply. I wouldn't do vinegar for kids because it's just a bit too intense, probably for the little teeth. But yeah, it's the same concept. So a protein rich, savory breakfast is always the way to go, whether you're an adult or a kid. That's super important for your glucose levels. Veggies first move after eating. Put clothing on your carbs. If your kid. If it's 4pm and your kid is like, I really want this donut or this whatever, say, okay, but first have some almonds. You want to package always the sugar with a source of protein, fat, or fiber to help lower the spike.

[Lauren Everts]

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[Michael Bostic]

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[Lauren Everts]

We have two negotiators. They negotiate. Yeah. You would not believe my son's negotiation.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

How do you manage.

[Lauren Everts]

It's so there's. The manipulations are crazy. This morning, it was.

[Michael Bostic]

He's pretty clever. And I don't want to discourage the negotiation because part of me, like, I'm like, I respect it. And I want him to, like, yeah, I'm like, I do. I want him to develop the confidence to, like. The other day, we were saying, like, we were. We were joking. I forget what it's about. We were saying winning or something about a game we were playing, and I won the game. I don't just let him win. I'm like. And then he goes, no, you didn't win. I wanted. No, I won. He goes, fine. Then we didn't. Then we tied. And I'm like. He like. I'm like, okay, fine, we'll tie.

[Lauren Everts]

This morning.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

He said, fine, we tied.

[Michael Bostic]

I was like, well, because it was kind of like. It was. It was. It was like a dumb game or something. But the point. I didn't want to discourage him, but, like, no, you lose. You know, Because I respected that. I see what he's doing. I'm like, okay. Like, I want to develop his confidence muscle, you know?

[Lauren Everts]

This morning, he came up to me and said, mom, I just really want to snuggle with you. And I thought, oh, my God, of course. You're so cute. And then he said, okay, let's go snuggle. Could you grab a cinnamon roll and let's watch Ninja Turtles?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

That's amazing.

[Lauren Everts]

That is a habit stack. He got the food that he wanted in with the Ninja Turtles, but he was using the snuggle as the. As to enter the door.

[Michael Bostic]

I have another question for you. How did you originally get so into the topic of glucose? Because obviously you've built an entire business and brand, like, around glucose. I would be curious.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Honestly, it came to me. I didn' look for it. So I would say the origin story is I was 19 years old, went to Hawaii for vacation, jumped off a waterfall, broke my back.

[Michael Bostic]

Oh, Jesus.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

So my. One of my vertebrae snapped into 13 pieces. Sorry. It's gruesome. Especially if you learn for all the.

[Lauren Everts]

Oh, no, I can handle that. I just can't handle a glucose.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Okay, cool, cool.

[Michael Bostic]

So she would rather snap her back besides.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

And now I have all these metal rods in my bag. Yeah. So I had surgery, by the way.

[Michael Bostic]

Back pain is the worst.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Yes. But I don't have any back pain.

[Michael Bostic]

Okay, well, at the time.

[Lauren Everts]

Let's stop projecting your back pain.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

You're like, back pain is the worst. Yeah. So physical, you know, injury, etc. But then I started developing these crazy mental health symptoms. So depersonalization, which is a feeling of being a stranger in your own body. I would look into mirrors and have panic attacks. I'd be like, who's that? Like, it was fucking freaky. I was not okay. And I was 19, and I was completely broken. And at that point, I felt okay, if I don't fix my health, like, I don't know how I'm gonna go on. And so I was studying mathematics, and I kind of shifted. I was like, okay, I have to understand how this body functions. So I went to school for biochemistry, my graduate studies. I worked in genetics for a long time, et cetera, but nothing helped me. The only thing that helped me, almost 10 years after my accident, is putting on a freaking glucose monitor. And it showed me that big glucose spikes could trigger these episodes of depersonalization. Yeah, that's the face I made, Lauren.

[Lauren Everts]

So wait, how long does depersonalization last? Is it all day long or is it come and go?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

It was, like, constant for six months to a year. And then it started just being these waves. And I would be super scared of being alone ever, because I didn't know when they would come up and start. And one morning, I had a donut for breakfast, and I was wearing a glucose monitor as part of this pilot study I was in with my work in Silicon Valley. Just kind of randomly and big glucose spike from the donut, and boom. I feel an episode coming on. And so I went, whoa. This is the first time I have a clue about something that might be connected to my mental health. Nobody that I talked to, no doctor, nothing ever said, look at your diet, ever, Ever. And so I was like, thank God. Like, thank you, universe, for showing me this. And so this came from a desire to fix myself. So I looked through all the studies. I was like, glucose and mental health. Glucose and somebody without diabetes. And I read everything I could. I found these hacks, I discovered them, I applied them, I started feeling better, and then I could rebuild, you know, after the sort of baseline nutritional stuff. Then I did a lot of EMDR somatic therapy, and now I'm fine, but it was through my own pain. And then I was like, people need to know this stuff because it's not just for mental health. Whether you have fertility issues, type 2 diabetes, cravings, fatigue, eczema, acne, etc, these glucose hacks are super important for everybody.

[Lauren Everts]

What kind of somatic healing did you do?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

So craniosacral therapy was great. And then I just learned that when I'm having an episode, an important thing is to go into my body, because I was kind of stuck in fight or flight after the accident. I was really scared that I was going to die from the surgery. And so my body was locked up from distress. So I started learning. I need to dance. I need to move. If I'm not feeling well, get on the ground. Like, do yoga, move. Make sounds. Like, let my body release the stress that was inside of it. So I kind of made up my own stuff.

[Lauren Everts]

Michael and I have recently gotten very into cranial sacral therapy. Yeah.

[Michael Bostic]

And she's deeper in it than me,

[Lauren Everts]

but I can't believe it is. Like, I have done nine years of talk therapy in seven months. I cannot. I honestly can't believe it. I can't. I almost can't even explain it to you because it's so gnarly. And you can't explain it to anyone, really, until they do it. Did you have that experience with it?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

It was one of the first somatic things I did. And the first session, the practitioner puts her hands behind my head, and I'm laying down, and all of a sudden my whole body starts feeling the pain that I felt years before. When I woke up from my surgery, my whole sciatics were in. Like, everything was burning. My back was burning, my legs were burning. I started shaking. I was like. Like, what the.

[Lauren Everts]

So your body released it?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Lauren Everts]

Did you cry or throw up or.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

I cry all the time, but it was more. The crying was just a stress release. But I saw that my body was holding on to all this stuff, and I was so shocked that this practice, this session sort of summoned it back.

[Lauren Everts]

It's wild.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Like, how. What happened in your experience? Can you share?

[Lauren Everts]

I've just. I've just been unwinding. Have you heard of this, like, moving, and you're like, I move all these different ways, and it's like your fascia is unwinding, and you get sick one night, too. I got a Heck Hercs hex, Carson.

[Michael Bostic]

It's.

[Lauren Everts]

I don't know what it's called. It's. It's a physical reaction. Like, kind of like you get to ayahuasca, and it felt like there was all this. I want. I. I hate to say trauma, but that's what it felt like in my fascia. It was wild. And I was drawn to it because we got it for our baby. And I was like, oh, I'll do a session. And I. Then I did it. And I was like, holy. You know what she said too? And I don't know if you've experienced this. It can take 10 years to get into unwinding.

[Michael Bostic]

Oh, great.

[Lauren Everts]

You have to your third eye. But when you did cranial sacral, did you find that it helped with pain in your back or did you not have any pain in your back?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

It was never about the pain, never about the. It was always about the brain. It was always about the. The intense fear of being alive that I had developed.

[Lauren Everts]

Did it help with depersonalization?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

It helped a little bit. Yeah. Over time it helped. I would feel better after the sessions. I would come back. It was a long, long process. But it's one of the modalities that helped me. Yes.

[Lauren Everts]

When you started getting better through learning more about glucose, was the shift really just eating the donut in a different way?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

It was not eating the donut for breakfast. It was eating protein in the morning. And if I did really want the donut, it would be after a meal for dessert, you know, at the end.

[Lauren Everts]

So it's not like you. You're telling people what I think so cool about you is you're not telling people to deprive yourself or not eat the donut. No, you're just saying have a strategy around the donut.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

It's like, how do you eat the donut in the way that doesn' create a vicious cycle of addiction. We all want to eat the donuts, but if you have it for breakfast all day, you're going to want a chai latte with a bunch of sugar and a cookie and, you know, more chocolate, because you're going to be in this glucose roller coaster. So buy the donut, have it after lunch for dessert so that it doesn't start controlling you. Like, I want to control my donuts. I don't want the donuts controlling me and how I feel and my. The amount of sugar cravings I'm having. Well. And think about me.

[Michael Bostic]

Yeah. And even in this country in particular, maybe not so much internationally, but maybe happening more now. Like, a lot of people start their day with like these super sugary coffee drinks or energy drinks with a ton of sugar and artificial sweeteners. And so I imagine the majority of those people, the first thing, they start

[Jesse Inchauspé]

the day with a glucose spike. Yes. And I think one of the main contributions of my work has been for people to understand that glucose matters for everybody, not just for people with Diabetes, because it affects you in so many ways. For me it was mental health. Maybe for you guys it would be, I don't know, something completely random. Maybe your toenail would stop hurting, I don't know. But blood sugar balance is the key of good physical and mental health. And so you don't know what it's going to unlock for you. If you think you could feel better than you currently do, then you need to try to manage your glucose levels and see what happens.

[Michael Bostic]

Does honey spike your glucose?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Yes.

[Michael Bostic]

Yes, it does.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Even honey. Is sugar okay? Yes, honey is sugar. So honey is great. If you love it, have it for enjoyment. Don't think it's like a health food. Have it after a meal. For example, don't start your day with a tea and five teaspoons of honey in it. That's going to be a big glucose spike waiting to happen. Happen.

[Michael Bostic]

I do honey sometimes in my coffee, but I'm gonna. But I was, the other day she was asking why, Because I remember I wasn't doing like. And I said intuitively, I just feel like it was too much honey.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Yeah, potentially.

[Lauren Everts]

If you're going to eat honey, though, can you have two eggs before the honey?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Absolutely. Okay. That's my girl.

[Michael Bostic]

Have they done any studies with spiked glucose levels as it correlates to mental health or mental disorders?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Yes. So diets that cause more glucose spikes lead to people having. Well, lead to. Are associated with people having more symptoms of a depression and anxiety. So when you put people with depression and anxiety on a low glycemic diet, that means a low glucose spike diet, they report fewer symptoms. I'm not saying it's causing things like, I don't know what was going on in my brain. Maybe it was the inflammation from the spike that was triggering the episode. You know, who knows? But there is a correlation. We know that diet and mental health are linked and we know that more glucose spikes associated with more symptoms.

[Lauren Everts]

Do you have mtf? Hr?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

I don't think so.

[Lauren Everts]

I wonder because I know there's a lot of people listening that have that and I wonder if it's harder for them to process glucose.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

I think it has to do with folate. Right. Like folate, processing folate, metabolism. I don't know if it impacts glucose.

[Lauren Everts]

You have to DM me if it does. If you find that out, I would love to know what your thoughts are on that. I have a particular question. Every weekend my kids want me to make mommy waffles. And. And I want to know if there's a better way to do it. It's. It's eggs. Eggs, bananas, and oats, and you blend it up and it's a waffle.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Great.

[Lauren Everts]

Is that okay because there's eggs in it, or is that defeating what you're saying?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

So everything is okay. It's okay to make waffles for your kids that have a little bit of sugar in them.

[Lauren Everts]

Right.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

It's not about doing it. Never. So you said eggs, oats, and banana.

[Lauren Everts]

Yep.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

I mean, that's a pretty good and healthy waffle recipe.

[Michael Bostic]

Maple syrup.

[Lauren Everts]

I think my question is like. Like, is it okay if the eggs are paired with the carbs? Do you know what I'm saying?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

It's a good thing. It's a good thing versus having them before.

[Lauren Everts]

Versus having the eggs and then having waffles.

[Michael Bostic]

She's asking because of the sh. Because of the syrup and that. But if you're having the things before,

[Jesse Inchauspé]

I think you're asking. Mixing versus one after the other. Okay. So one after the other is better. However, mixing is better than no eggs at all in the waffles.

[Lauren Everts]

Okay.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

You see what I mean?

[Lauren Everts]

So we can deal. Do mommy waffles.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

You can deal with. And also, by the way, nothing is good or bad in a vacuum. It's always, like, compared to what? Right.

[Lauren Everts]

So these are well compared to his French toast. Because that doesn't have an egg.

[Michael Bostic]

No, I use a nice French brioche.

[Lauren Everts]

Nope, you should have eggs first.

[Michael Bostic]

We have a competition with the kids, and we say, what's better?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Wait, isn't French toast in this egg mixture? Don't you make it with eggs?

[Michael Bostic]

Yeah, you make it with eggs?

[Lauren Everts]

Kind of. It's like a little egg brush.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Can I suggest something? Please Put on a glucose monitor and test both and see which one has the biggest spike.

[Michael Bostic]

I will do it. Okay. Which. What. Which glucose monitor do you.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

I reckon Stello. Which is the simplest, most accurate one? I can send you some Stello, test it out, Send me the spikes, and we'll do like a full. Help me put it on piece of content about them.

[Lauren Everts]

I'm not joking. I'll have to leave for the film.

[Michael Bostic]

Her putting it on me and see. You want to talk about mental health, we'll watch her do that. I'm just kidding. It's a joke. Calm down, people.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

I'll send you some Michael. Okay, so you can.

[Michael Bostic]

I'm excited to. I. This is. I like this kind of thing because I feel like.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Oh, do you? I can't tell at all that you're interested in this topic.

[Michael Bostic]

No, because I Like, I like the idea of being able to measure, like, every little thing that's going on.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

And also there, you know, there is value in just intuitively, like, feeling how your body feels. But it's cool to have data because you can get real time insights into what's going on.

[Lauren Everts]

Is fruit bad for glucose?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

No.

[Lauren Everts]

Okay, so that's a lie.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Whole fruit is fine.

[Lauren Everts]

Okay.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Even though whole fruit is not natural. So. Okay, let me unpack this. So, you know when people are like, oh, fruit is natural. It comes from nature, blah, blah, blah. Is not true. All of the. Do you guys have pets?

[Lauren Everts]

Yeah.

[Michael Bostic]

Yeah.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Dogs.

[Lauren Everts]

Yeah.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Okay, so you know how all dogs that exist today are human creation. They all descend from wolves, and humans have been breeding dogs to make, like, a Chihuahua Golden Retriever. These are not real dogs. They've been bred into these species.

[Lauren Everts]

I did not know that.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Okay, there you go. So all dogs are fake.

[Michael Bostic]

Lauren thought Chihuahuas. It's a conspiracy. During the dinosaur times.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

It's a conspiracy. So all dogs have been, quote, unquote, engineered by humans. Okay. Fruit is the same. All the fruit in the supermarket today has been bred for centuries by humans to make them super sweet and juicy and low in fiber and high in sugar.

[Lauren Everts]

What if you grow your own still?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Because the seeds that you buy, they're modern seeds that have been engineered and bred. If you go to, like, the Amazon, like, untouched rainforest, you'll find bananas that are not like the bananas you find at Whole Foods. They're small and they're dense and they have low amounts of sugar in them. Okay? So all this to say that the fruit you buy today is not natural, it's high in sugar on purpose. That being said, fruit also contains fiber, and as I explained, fiber helps slow down the spike. The problem arises when you change that piece of fruit into, like, a smoothie or a juice, because then you're getting rid of all the fiber or pulverizing the fiber, and then just, poof, a bunch of sugar arrives into your bloodstream. So, yes, whole fruit is always fine. Fruit juice, fruit smoothies, be careful. They're for enjoyment, not for health.

[Lauren Everts]

Got it. So all these people that are doing these crazy smoothies at all, these establishments

[Jesse Inchauspé]

are spiking their glucose or juice cleanses. I mean, if you do, like, a vegetable juice, it's fine, because vegetables don't contain sugar. For smoothies, it's fine to have some whole fruit in your smoothie. Just don't make a smoothie that's 100% fruit. Make sure there's protein and Fat in there to lower the spike.

[Lauren Everts]

Why don't you create a smoothie that's glucose appropriate with Erewhon? That's my pitch. Yeah, that would be a great. Like, we don't need to worry about the glucose spike.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

The glucose goddess smoothie.

[Lauren Everts]

Yeah. Yes. I'm putting that out there in the ether for you.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Great. I think I would do. Okay, Erwan, if you're listening, we're gonna do unsweetened almond butter.

[Lauren Everts]

Okay.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Unsweetened almond milk, grass fed whey, some frozen berries and some sprouted walnuts. And then you blend that and then we're gonna add some cacao nibs on top.

[Lauren Everts]

Why not real milk?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Oh, you can put real milk. I love real milk. It just feels like this smoothie is like an almond kind of vibe.

[Michael Bostic]

Yeah. Air one, probably.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Yeah. But actually you can do it.

[Lauren Everts]

I don't know, Rob.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Listen, I love whey. We can do. We can do milk. It's totally fine.

[Lauren Everts]

So you're putting the protein with the unsweetened peanut butter as the healthy fat and the protein, and then the milk's a little bit of fat. If we do real milk.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Yes.

[Lauren Everts]

But the protein is essential when you're doing that.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Essential. Essential. You need the two scoops of whey in there or another source of protein.

[Lauren Everts]

What do you do when someone comes to you and they're a vegan?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Depends on their stage in life. If they're pregnant. I'm like, girl, you got to get supplements. Like, buy my book and figure out what you need to eat. Because with a vegan diet, you will not get everything your baby needs if they're not pregnant. I'll say make sure that you are not confusing vegan with healthy me. There are lots of unhealthy vegan foods. And make sure you're getting your protein. Make sure you're supplementing with Omega 3s also.

[Lauren Everts]

What do you mean make sure you're not confusing vegan with healthy?

[Michael Bostic]

Because people think that just because it says vegan on it, that that means it's a healthy product.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Exactly.

[Michael Bostic]

And it's a lot of.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

So you see like a vegan smoothie and you're like, oh, that's healthy. But you don't realize it has two cups of honey and maple syrup. And lots of things can be vegan and really bad for you.

[Lauren Everts]

What is healthy when it comes to. Comes to being vegan?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Well, I guess whole fruit, whole vegetables, a ton of lentils, a ton of pulses, avocados, olive oil, nuts and seeds. Okay. Coconut.

[Lauren Everts]

And do you Eat everything.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Yeah.

[Lauren Everts]

So what are the main food groups that you're focused on?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

I am focused on protein.

[Lauren Everts]

Okay.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

So I eat a lot of eggs. I love meat, fish, chicken. I eat a lot of fats. I'm French, so I love cheese. I love cheese on everything. I love Parmesan. Parmesan is like my addiction. I love Parmesan, so I put parmesan on everything. I eat lots of veggies, and then I eat lots of good stuff. Like I love bread, I love pasta, I love desserts. But I just eat them in the right way to not trigger a depersonalization episode.

[Michael Bostic]

Outside of people learning to eat in the right order, which we've covered, if you could wave a wand, what are some things you just would completely eliminate from people's diets and the way that they're eating?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Probably, like sweet breakfast foods, which I think are really harming us. 100 years ago, people didn't have dessert for breakfast, and now most kids are being brought up on sweet breakfast cereal. So I'd replace all of those with an omelette.

[Michael Bostic]

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[Lauren Everts]

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[Jesse Inchauspé]

Okay?

[Lauren Everts]

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[Jesse Inchauspé]

Yes.

[Lauren Everts]

I mean, my kids are different kids. If they. If they get that red 40 vons cake. Yeah. Like, look with the little balloons on it. Look out.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

I'm a different person if I have, like, a croissant for breakfast. Like, stay away. I'll be awful if I have my nice omelette with feta and tomatoes. I'm a much nicer person. We are affected by what we eat. Our brain is affected by the levels of glucose in our blood.

[Lauren Everts]

It's crazy. Yeah. So if someone's listening and they're pregnant. What are some pillars that you swear by that they can find in your book?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

The first one is choline. So choline is found. Yeah, choline is really, it's, it's amazing. Choline is a nutrient that's found in eggs, in liver, in meat and fish, and it builds your baby's brain. So by the time your baby's born, most of his neurons will be in place. Most of his brain cells that process information will be in place.

[Lauren Everts]

Bond is made from liver.

[Michael Bostic]

Yeah, Wood.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Perfect. In healthy baby.

[Michael Bostic]

You know what's interesting? There's, there's, there's a lot of studies now coming out saying like a higher cholesterol actually could be good for longevity. And for the longest time, I mean, you're similar age to us. We went through the era of people saying like, too many eggs, don't eat your eggs, it's bad for you. And now you're starting to say, like, you need that choline and you need that protein and it's one of the, you know, higher cholesterol could be really good for you.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Absolutely. And look, there's studies also on pregnant women. So when you supplement pregnant moms with choline during pregnancy and then you look at how their kids fare in the first year of life, these kids have faster reaction times to this very important test that is essentially a measure of adult intelligence. So when a mom has eaten enough choline during pregnancy, there's a measurable impact on her baby's brain development years and months later. This is a very key one. Second key one, protein. When you're pregnant, you're building another person's body and you need a lot of protein for that. Your needs go up, up. So you got to get at least 1.5 grams of protein per kilo of body weight per day in the second and third trimester. Very, very important. And studies show that if your baby doesn't have enough protein in the womb, he will adapt. He will adapt to what he believes he will be born into, meaning a low protein world. So these babies in animal studies come out smaller with less muscle mass, and this setting stays with them for life.

[Michael Bostic]

Wow.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

That's the second one. 1 3rd 1 Omega 3s DHA. Super important. Build your baby's brain. And there's a study that shows that when you supplement moms with omega 3s and you measure their kids IQ at 4 years old, they have 4 points more IQ if they had enough omega 3 DHA in the womb. And the last pillar is learning about sugar during pregnancy, the amount of sugar that you eat will be directly reflected into your baby's bloodstream. So your glucose levels become your baby's glucose levels. There's no filter in place if you spike your baby spikes. There's lots of things that you can do to lower those glucose spikes during pregnancy while still eating the cookie and the ice cream that we inevitably crave sometimes. So these are the four pillars and this is what I did during my pregnancy. And these are the four things that are scientifically proven to have a beneficial long term impact on your child.

[Michael Bostic]

So it's not a good idea to be pregnant. Like, well, this is the time I'm pregnant. Like, it's a free for all and just get all the things that I, I gotta be. I gotta be careful as the man on the show asking this, but you get what I'm going at. Like, it could be, it potentially could have long term effects if you're not.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

There's a bunch of harmful myths around pregnancy. One is that you're just a. It's just a bun in the oven. You're just an oven. You're passive. It's just about heat.

[Michael Bostic]

Like it's just growing regardless of what you do.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Like, chill out, don't stress. That's a big myth. Second myth, your baby will get what he needs from you. It's not true. The studies prove this. You need to get the right stuff so your baby gets the right stuff. And the other myth is you should eat for two. Here, have more pancakes. Because you're building another body. This is actually a time where you have to be the most conscious about your diet. But moms are being lied to or this information is just not coming to them. So yeah, it's not a good time to just say, okay, eff it, I'll just eat whatever. It's actually a time where you eat will have a long term impact on your baby. And hopefully this book, nine months that count forever, is going to help people navigate that with very clear pillars with not too much stress and easy tips.

[Michael Bostic]

If our social team pulls a clip of me telling women not to eat and I'm go, don't pull that.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Pull it.

[Michael Bostic]

Only you. You said I just framed it up to get the information as a good interviewer should.

[Lauren Everts]

What is the biggest misconception about your content online? Where do you see the most pushback?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

The biggest misconception about my content? I think people who just come across maybe a post or even just my name, they think I'm all about no sugar. Maybe they think I'm all about restriction and sugar is bad, blah, blah, blah. So they think I'm more extreme than I am. Another misconception is that I have diabetes, but whatever, that's just a personal misconception.

[Lauren Everts]

I don't think you're extreme at all. When you get the context of what you're doing, it's actually thoughtful.

[Michael Bostic]

It's very much like data based.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Yes. And it's also not about restriction or saying you can't eat good stuff anymore that you enjoy. It's just easy tips that help people live a slightly easier life.

[Lauren Everts]

What is your opinion on GLP1? With everything you know about insulin and glucose, it's very powerful.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

It does help a lot of people lose the weight that they have never been able to lose. I think my biggest thought about it is that it's kind of like if the water that came out of the tap was toxic and our solution to this was not to clean the water, but was to give people a drug that makes them less thirsty. That is literally what's going on with food. So it's a quote unquote solution to the problem, but it's not solving anything.

[Lauren Everts]

So when all these people get off, you're saying that the problem is not solved.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

The food problem is not solved. Right. They're not magically transported into a land where the food is healthy and not killing you. The main issue is that if you're on a GLP1, you have to make sure to eat enough protein. As you guys probably know, it's all about keeping that muscle mass, otherwise you're just going to lose your muscle. Then when you stop the GLP1 drug, then you're going to gain weight back and it's just fat that you're gaining back. So you can be in a worse situation than you were in the first place. But I think people are aware of that now. They know that protein is important when they're on a GLP1. It's, it's remark, it's remarkable and it's incredible. It really works, you know, it really cuts people's appetite. I've seen it firsthand. It's like, it's, it's insane.

[Michael Bostic]

I know we've covered diabetes and inflammation. Does glucose have any effect on allergies or skin conditions or asthma or anything, anything of that nature, or is there

[Jesse Inchauspé]

no correlation in pregnancy? Yes. So there's a correlation between the amount of blood sugar levels and inflammation in the womb and your kid's risk for allergies, asthma, allergic asthma and eczema. As a toddler and as a child. So something about high inflammation in the womb seems to be making a child's immune system overactive and so potentially developing these conditions in terms of in adults, I don't know. So I'll have to look at the studies and tell you.

[Michael Bostic]

Okay, and then we're on the GLP1. So we were actually switching gears a little bit for weight management. Are people able to use these monitoring levels to kind of work towards managing their weight in a more effective way?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Yes, because here's the thing. When you steady your glucose levels, two main things happen. One, fewer cravings, so it's easier to not reach for a candy bar. Two, I told you earlier on that when we have a glucose spike, our body grabs the glucose and puts it into fat cells. Cells as a way to store the excess damaging glucose. And so when you have high glucose levels, your body is in fat storage mode. Your body cannot burn fat. So in order to start burning fat, you need to keep those glucose levels under control. So naturally, if you look at your glucose spikes and you start to manage them, it becomes much easier to lose fat on your body if that's your goal. And it's usually a side effect of

[Michael Bostic]

glucose management because you're aware of that, you're in a fat storing mode.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Not really. It's just because your body naturally does it it right. So if you come to glucose management because you want more energy, fewer cravings, you want to manage diabetes, you want to manage your hormones, well, then kind of often what happens is that as a consequence, you're also going to lose fat on your body. You're going to lose weight because your glucose levels are steadier. But it's not a diet like, you know, for me, Stello, and glucose hacks are not about dieting and losing weight really fast. They're about helping your body get back into a really healthy, balanced place. And then naturally you lose weight.

[Lauren Everts]

I have a business idea for you.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

I love this. I'm getting coaching.

[Lauren Everts]

I would like a glucose monitor. That is a swab in my mouth, huh?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Totally, girl. Anything is possible. Leave it with me. Leave it with me.

[Lauren Everts]

I'm sorry, but it doesn't hurt.

[Michael Bostic]

And once it's on there, I don't

[Lauren Everts]

care if it doesn't hurt. I'm just putting it on.

[Michael Bostic]

Let me see the monitor. Let me see.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Okay.

[Lauren Everts]

No, no, no.

[Michael Bostic]

Yeah, I need to look at it.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Okay. You see? You see it?

[Lauren Everts]

Yeah, yeah.

[Michael Bostic]

It just looks like a little like.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

But one day, Lauren, one day they'll have glucose monitors that, that Are just a little laser that looks through your skin. Would you be into that?

[Lauren Everts]

They look through my skin.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

So sorry. They'll be like in a watch and it won't even touch your skin.

[Michael Bostic]

Oh, like a.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

And with a laser, they'll be able to measure your glucose level. The EMF on that, not so good probably.

[Lauren Everts]

Can we just get like a little swab in our mouth?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

No, because your saliva doesn't have your blood sugar level.

[Michael Bostic]

Here's where, like, people like, you know, drives me when we get into like the em, it's like, listen, if you. You might have to take a little more emf, but if you can manage your glucose and get rid of inflammation and combat diabetes and weight management, like, it's probably better.

[Lauren Everts]

Can I just start eating my vegetables and my protein before my.

[Michael Bostic]

Yes, well, that'll be a good start.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

You know what I love is that both of you have like the perfect very marriage. Opposite ways. Yes, of course. But also very like contrasted ways of seeing glucose. So Lauren, you're all about like, I just want to intuitive you to the vegetables. I'm chill. Like, just veggies. Tell me about the waffles. And Michael, you're like, yeah, I want to measure it. But both work and both see. Both work.

[Michael Bostic]

Yeah, we're very yin and yang.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Exactly.

[Michael Bostic]

And then we'll fight about it in the car on the way home.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Perfect.

[Michael Bostic]

It'll be.

[Lauren Everts]

Yeah, big fight. Okay.

[Michael Bostic]

Whenever I see a couple and they're like, yeah, we agree. And we just love each other and we're all on the same page. Red flag. Divorce in two years. Calling it, you know what I mean.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

New book.

[Lauren Everts]

The nine months that count forever. How your pregnancy diet shapes your baby's future. You have a March 2026 release. Can everyone pre order it?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Absolutely.

[Lauren Everts]

On Amazon.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Yes.

[Lauren Everts]

I am such a fan of what you do. You can come back next time you're here. I think you're a wealth of knowledge. And that was really, really eye opening for me, especially knowing now that I need to put vegetables out for my children when they come home because he's asking me for mommy specials all the time.

[Michael Bostic]

Well, the mommy waffles department has been a. It's like open for business.

[Lauren Everts]

Well, she said it's not that bad. To dad.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

I want to see the test. I want to see the glucose spike. Thanks.

[Lauren Everts]

Okay.

[Michael Bostic]

Thank you for doing this.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Thank you for having me. You guys.

[Lauren Everts]

Jesse, where can everyone find you?

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Glucose goddess On Instagram.

[Michael Bostic]

And the book coming out.

[Jesse Inchauspé]

Nine months that count forever.

[Lauren Everts]

Thank you.

[Michael Bostic]

Thank you, Jesse.