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I'm Major Jackson and this is the Slowdown. In September 2001, while I sat at a stoplight on Carrollton Avenue in New Orleans, a morning radio DJ announced this just in A plane crashed into the north tower of the World Trade Center. His co host joked the pilot needed to check his vision. They both laughed. It felt inappropriate. But I guess morning DJs are paid to get our day off, right? To make us laugh. On the way to work, I was heading to teach a poetry writing course at Xavier University. Sometime during my class, my BlackBerry went off. It was my wife. Through tears, she asked that I come home. Like the Kennedy assassination for my parents, generation, mine will always remember and recall where we were on 9 11. Our country changed the moment. Those planes broke glass and sent us reeling into a long war. 911 also inaugurated the establishment of a new, more advanced surveillance state in the interest of enhancing national security. It is a historic moment that will long be memorialized, studied and debated. For that reason, poems too, will continue to be written about that fateful day. Poems about public events offer reflection. They counter political and media rhetoric that aims to simplify. Writing poems gives citizens in a democracy a place at the table of ideas and grants us a way to engage that promotes justice and civic dialogue. Today's poem emphasizes the indelible impact of global events such as 911 on our collective memory, how we are reminded of our lack of innocence. But the poem also signals that we transform and move from speechlessness to eloquence, from uncertainty and confusion to hope and understanding. We make art out of the remnants of destruction. Time Immemorial By Daniel Simon, September 11, 2021 those who remember that day always mentioned the blueness of the sky that morning, as if to underscore our collective innocence, as if two of those three numerals already anticipated the human will to counter implacable gravity's grievous toll. Yet words unscrolled in waves horizontal, resting time's arrow from the abysses of space, reminding us that the gap between one and one is all we are given to nurture in the land of the living. That tinsel arc always lifting our feet from the ground, suspending our fixity. Not an instant frozen in time but eternity measured in grief strickenness. The living brought down to the land of the dead who remind us to resume the ascent, to exhume meaning from the rubble at our feet, to pry apart those ones just far enough to let others pass through the slowdown is a production of American public media in partnership with the poetry Fact Foundation. This project is also supported in part by the National Endowment for the Arts. On the web@arts.gov to get a poem delivered to you daily, go to slowdownshow.org and sign up for our newsletter and find us on Instagram at Slowdown Show.
Podcast Summary: Episode 1257 - "Time || Immemorial" by Daniel Simon
The Slowdown: Poetry & Reflection Daily
Host: Major Jackson
Release Date: December 10, 2024
Produced by: APM Studios in partnership with The Poetry Foundation
Supported by: National Endowment for the Arts
In episode 1257 of The Slowdown: Poetry & Reflection Daily, host Major Jackson delves into the profound impact of significant historical events on our collective consciousness, using poetry as a medium for reflection and understanding. The episode features Daniel Simon's poignant poem "Time Immemorial," which contemplates the enduring effects of the September 11, 2001, tragedy.
Major Jackson opens the episode with a deeply personal account of his experience on the morning of September 11, 2001. He recounts sitting at a stoplight on Carrollton Avenue in New Orleans when he heard a radio DJ announce, “A plane crashed into the north tower of the World Trade Center.” He reflects on the inappropriate humor that followed the announcement, highlighting the initial disbelief and shock that enveloped the nation.
“Like the Kennedy assassination for my parents, generation, mine will always remember and recall where we were on 9 11.”
— Major Jackson [00:06]
He further describes the immediate personal impact, sharing how his family reached out amidst the chaos, and the broader societal changes that ensued, such as the initiation of a prolonged war and the establishment of a more advanced surveillance state aimed at enhancing national security.
Jackson emphasizes the significance of poetry in processing and memorializing historical events like 9/11. He argues that poetry provides a space for citizens to engage thoughtfully with complex emotions and societal shifts, countering the often reductive narratives found in political and media discourse.
“Poems about public events offer reflection. They counter political and media rhetoric that aims to simplify.”
— Major Jackson
He articulates that poetry fosters justice and civic dialogue, allowing individuals to transform raw emotions from events like 9/11 into eloquent expressions of hope and understanding.
The central feature of the episode is Daniel Simon’s poem “Time Immemorial,” written on the 20th anniversary of 9/11. The poem intricately weaves imagery and emotion to convey the lingering effects of that day on collective memory and individual consciousness.
Simon’s poem explores several key themes:
Collective Innocence and Loss: The poem begins by highlighting the "blueness of the sky" that day, symbolizing a sense of innocence before the tragedy struck. This imagery underscores the abrupt loss of peace and normalcy.
Temporal Displacement: Phrases like “time’s arrow” and “eternity measured in grief strickenness” convey the disorienting impact of the event on the perception of time, blending moments of intense sorrow with the notion of timeless suffering.
Resilience and Reconstruction: The poem speaks to the human capacity to find meaning amidst devastation. Lines such as “to exhume meaning from the rubble at our feet” suggest a determined effort to rebuild and derive purpose from tragedy.
Suspension and Movement: The imagery of an "arc" that is “suspending our fixity” reflects a state between stagnation and progression, symbolizing both the paralysis felt during the catastrophe and the eventual movement towards healing.
The episode features several impactful lines from both Major Jackson and Daniel Simon’s poem:
Major Jackson on Poetry’s Role:
“Writing poems gives citizens in a democracy a place at the table of ideas and grants us a way to engage that promotes justice and civic dialogue.”
— Major Jackson
Daniel Simon’s Reflections in the Poem:
“those who remember that day always mentioned the blueness of the sky that morning, as if to underscore our collective innocence”
— Time Immemorial [Episode Timestamp Not Provided]
“Not an instant frozen in time but eternity measured in grief strickenness.”
— Time Immemorial
“to pry apart those ones just far enough to let others pass through”
— Time Immemorial
Major Jackson wraps up the episode by reiterating the enduring significance of poetry in capturing and reflecting the complexities of pivotal historical moments. He underscores how poems like “Time Immemorial” serve as vessels for collective memory, allowing society to navigate the aftermath of tragedy with grace and resilience.
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The Slowdown is a production of American Public Media in partnership with The Poetry Foundation and supported in part by the National Endowment for the Arts.