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There I'm Maggie Smith and this is the Slow down. I don't know how I got here and I don't know where I'm going, by which I mean in the big existential way. I know I was born from my parents. I understand how biology works, more or less. And I know that when I die I will be cremated or buried, depending on what my will stipulates if I ever get around to it on my list of things to do. But these answers are more about the physical body than and less about the soul. I don't understand the soul. Its arrivals and departures are not marked on some sort of train schedule. After all, I went to church with my parents as a child, but I stopped going when I was a teenager. At the time, I felt like that church wasn't aligned with my values. I needed to step away. In many ways, I'm still that girl. And yet as I grow older, I feel myself softening. I'm more open to different viewpoints, and part of that is maturation, but part of it is also exposure. I have friends and family from many different faith traditions, a wider variety than I had in my life as a child. These days I have friends who are ministers, friends who are theologians, and friends who are atheists. I learn from all of them. My friend, the poet Dana Levin once said that my poems are God curious, and I loved that description. Part of what I do in my poems is is pose existential questions to myself and think and feel my way into them. That's not the same as answering them. Luckily, poems don't require us to have answers. Today's poem is a poem that inspires me to ask better questions about the world and about the soul and and about the idea of God Soot by Kava Akbar Sometimes God comes to earth disguised as rust, chewing away a chain link fence or a mariner's knife. From up so close we must seem clean, clumsy and gloomless, like new lovers undressing in front of each other for the first time. Regarding loss, I'm afraid to keep it in the story, worried what I might bring back to life. Like the marble angel who woke to find his innards scattered around his feet, blood from the belly tastes sweeter than blood from anywhere else. We know this but don't know why. The woman on TV dabs a man's gut wound with her hijab, then draws the cloth to her lips. Confused, I keep dreaming I'm a creature pulling out my claws or one by one to sell in a market stall next to stacks of pomegranates and garden tools. It's predictable, the logic of dreams. Long ago I lived in heaven because I wanted to. When I fell to earth, I knew the way through the soot into the leaves. It still took years. Upon landing, the ground embraced me sadly, with a gentleness of someone delivering tragic news to a child. The Slowdown is a production of American Public Media in partnership with the Poetry Foundation. To get a poem delivered to you daily, go to slowdownshow.org and sign up for our newsletter and find us on Instagram @downdownshow and blueskylowdownshow.org hello Slowdown listeners. Poetry Magazine has a special offer just for you. Subscribe to one year of Poetry Magazine today and receive their limited edition tote bag for $39. That's the cost of one Loboo. You'll receive 10 beautifully curated print magazines of contemporary poetry, Unlimited digital access via the Poetry Magazine app and a tote bag. To carry it all. Subscribe today@poetrymagazine.org Slowdown25 to receive this special offer.
Podcast: The Slowdown: Poetry & Reflection Daily
Host: Maggie Smith
Episode Title: 1370: "Soot" by Kaveh Akbar
Release Date: October 9, 2025
In this episode, Maggie Smith reflects on personal and existential questions, using poetry as a means of exploring ideas around spirituality, belief, and the soul. She frames her meditation around the poem "Soot" by Kaveh Akbar, examining questions of faith, loss, and the gentle mysteries that shape our lives.
The episode centers on seeking understanding—about ourselves, the soul, faith, and the unanswerable questions of existence. Maggie Smith uses Akbar’s poem as a catalyst for exploring “God-curious” questions, advocating for curiosity and compassion over certainty.
“I don’t know how I got here and I don’t know where I’m going, by which I mean in the big existential way.” (01:00)
“I know I was born from my parents... But these answers are more about the physical body than and less about the soul.” (01:15)
“I went to church with my parents as a child, but I stopped going when I was a teenager. At the time, I felt like that church wasn’t aligned with my values. I needed to step away.” (01:38)
“I’m more open to different viewpoints, and part of that is maturation, but part of it is also exposure. I have friends and family from many different faith traditions...” (02:00)
“My friend, the poet Dana Levin once said that my poems are God curious, and I loved that description.” (02:32)
“Part of what I do in my poems is pose existential questions to myself and think and feel my way into them. That’s not the same as answering them... Luckily, poems don’t require us to have answers.” (02:40)
“Poems don’t require us to have answers.” — Maggie Smith (02:46)
“I loved that description.” — Maggie Smith, referring to Dana Levin’s insight (02:35)
“I have friends who are ministers, friends who are theologians, and friends who are atheists. I learn from all of them.” (02:11)
| Timestamp | Segment Description | |-----------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:59 | Maggie Smith begins her thoughtful introduction | | 01:38 | Recounts her religious childhood and change in perspective | | 02:32 | On being described as “God curious” and poetry’s role in existential inquiry | | 03:00 | Maggie introduces and reads “Soot” by Kaveh Akbar | | 03:06 | “[Sometimes God comes to earth disguised as rust...]” — Beginning of the poem | | 04:16 | “[Long ago I lived in heaven because I wanted to...]” — Poem’s closing lines |
Maggie Smith’s delivery is contemplative and inviting, characteristic of The Slowdown. She weaves her personal experience into her reflections, encouraging listeners to remain open to the unknown and to use poetry as a lens for deeper understanding.
This episode of The Slowdown features Maggie Smith ruminating on existential uncertainty, spiritual evolution, and the power of poetry to guide and complicate our questions about the soul and the divine. Through Akbar’s evocative poem and her own searching narration, Smith invites listeners to “lean into wonder,” reminding them that sometimes, it’s asking the right questions—not having answers—that draws us closer to hope and compassion.