The Slowdown: Poetry & Reflection Daily

Episode 1412: "Ledge (ars poetica) (love poem) (true story)" by Amorak Huey
Host: Maggie Smith
Date: December 15, 2025

Episode Overview

This episode explores the multifaceted nature of poetry—specifically the “ars poetica” form, which contemplates the art and purpose of poetry itself—through Maggie Smith’s introduction and a reading of Amorak Huey's poem “Ledge (ars poetica) (love poem) (true story).” Smith reflects on how guidance for writing poetry often translates into life advice, considering themes of risk, authenticity, and connection, both in poetry and living. Huey’s poem becomes an entry point for reflecting on the balancing acts involved in writing, loving, and being alive.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Understanding Ars Poetica

(01:06 — 02:32)

• Smith explains that “Ars Poetica” means “the art of poetry,” referencing Horace’s foundational work:
  • “An Ars Poetica is a poem about the art of poetry itself. It offers a poet’s perspective on what poetry is and how it should be written and what it might do for the reader.” (01:06)
  • Horace’s 476-line poem offers rules for poets, such as advice on word choice, tone, meter, and dramatic structure, and urges poets to avoid overwriting.

2. Advice from Mentors: Poetry as Life Guidance

(02:32 — 03:21)

• Smith reads from a letter by poet Stanley Plumlee, reflecting on literary anxiety and self-acceptance:
  • “You seem to be suffering from second book itis… My theory is that you should always try to imitate yourself because you’ll fail every time and come up with something new. But the more you try not to, the more you will resemble yourself or the more you will freeze up. So take the pressure off. Just write good poems. The rest will take care of itself.” (02:45)
• She connects that the best poetry advice—“Be yourself. Tell the truth. Don’t be afraid to take risks…”—resonates equally with the way we live.

3. Introducing Today’s Poem: Multifaceted Meanings

(03:21 — 03:45)

• The featured poem, Huey’s “Ledge,” is labeled as an ars poetica, a love poem, and a true story—three genres or lenses woven together.
• Smith notes: “That’s a lot of work for one poem to do, a lot of layers of meaning. But this poet does speak to the precarity of it all. Writing and loving and living.” (03:40)

Featured Poem:

"Ledge (ars poetica) (love poem) (true story)" by Amorak Huey
(03:45 — 05:10)

The poem is read in full by Smith. Key lines include:

• “When I say ledge, you immediately think of falling. But it’s the opposite. A ledge is a thing we build into the emptiness so we have a place to stand.” (03:50)

• “Of course it’s dangerous, risk of death and all that. What do you think being alive involves?” (03:58)

• “When I say, step out onto this ledge with me, does it sound like I’m talking about love? Or do you immediately go to the implied leap after?” (04:07)

• “Wait until you find out a bridge is where two ledges meet halfway.” (04:15)

• “Let us fit our bodies together. Let us balance our weight against each other. Let us hold on even as the wind rises.” (04:44)

Memorable Moments & Quotes

• The poem’s central metaphor reframes the idea of risk: the ledge is not a leap into the abyss, but a constructed space for presence, connection, and vulnerability.

Reflection & Takeaways

• Poetry, like love and life, requires risk, presence, and partnership.
• Even when standing on precarious ground—or a metaphorical “ledge”—we can find balance, support, and “enough” in the moment.
• Smith reiterates that poetry is both a tool for self and communal attention, and a source of hope and connection.

Notable Quotes (with Timestamps)

• Maggie Smith (on Ars Poetica):
  “An Ars Poetica is a poem about the art of poetry itself… In this poem, Horace advises young poets on the art of writing poetry…” (01:06)

• Stanley Plumlee’s advice (quoted by Smith):
  “You should always try to imitate yourself because you’ll fail every time and come up with something new.” (02:59)

• Maggie Smith (on the overlap of poetry and life):
  “So much of the best advice I’ve received from my own mentors applies as much to living as it does to writing. Be yourself. Tell the truth. Don’t be afraid to take risks. Try new things. Don’t let setbacks stop you.” (03:18)

• Amorak Huey (read by Smith):
  “When I say ledge, you immediately think of falling. But it’s the opposite. A ledge is a thing we build into the emptiness so we have a place to stand.” (03:50)

• Huey (as read by Smith):
  “Let us fit our bodies together. Let us balance our weight against each other. Let us hold on even as the wind rises.” (04:44)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• [01:06] – Maggie Smith introduces Ars Poetica
• [02:45] – Letter from Stanley Plumlee, thoughts on writing and authenticity
• [03:40] – Framing of today’s poem and its layered intentions
• [03:45 – 05:10] – Reading of “Ledge (ars poetica) (love poem) (true story)” by Amorak Huey

Closing Thought

In keeping with The Slowdown’s signature meditative tone, Maggie Smith encourages listeners to find meaning in poetry as both a creative and life-sustaining act, echoing the episode’s refrain: Poetry helps us pay attention—to ourselves, to others, and to the possibilities that arise when we step, together, onto life’s ledges.