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Foreign I'm Major Jackson, and this is the Slowdown. I grew up in a section of North Philadelphia that was predominantly black and Latino. It bordered Brewery Town, which was predominantly white, particularly German, Polish, and Irish. As a kid, my friends and I had to walk through Brewery Town in order to get to Fairmount Park. But often we ran. White kids yelled names, threatened harm, threw bottles at us. Our older brothers crossed Girard Avenue to steal steal bikes from unsuspecting kids, which fueled even more animosity. The racial tension ran high back then. Incidents of mass fights broke out. Philadelphia, like the world, was a city of ethnic enclaves where each group suffered its fair share of extreme hate and abuse. At a conference recently, I listened to an Ethiopian Jewish activist, a Palestinian activist, and an Israeli lawyer speak about their attempts to broker peace, to help eradicate hate. I found their passion moving. They spoke of inherited stories and beliefs that seed fear and prevent us from seeing others as humans. They spoke to the complicated idea of victimhood as a virtue rather than a condition. They spoke of the necessity of listening, of hearing each other's stories. What spoke loudest was that we cannot overcome hatred with hatred. Today's poem begins from the idea that we yearn for connection and healing, but that our conflicts feel irreconcilable to the point that we do not trust a future free of our trauma, grief, and suffering. Here we are. By Lauren K. Whetel Here we are at last meeting face to face, like two heroes of opposing armies looking each other in the eye, poised to shake hands. Do you trust me? Do I trust you? No. Trust died last century along with truth, so we'll have to think of something else to shake on. Not to our health. Our health is bad and only getting worse. Not to our wealth, because no amount of riches could heal our poverty. Not to you and yours. Not to me and mine, because yours and mine, every last one, perished in the wars, and without yours there is no you, and without mine there is no me. Just two bodies standing face to face, two envelopes of flesh with nothing folded inside. How did we survive? And better yet, how did we emerge heroic after all that carnage, all that betrayal and heartbreak? Loss for every meal, loss before bedtime and on rising. That's why we're empty, because emptiness made us, made these bodies in which we stand high on the hilltop under a pallid moon, with the fields of bone surrounding us like a fresh snowfall. Except that the heat here is insufferable. Last winter was years ago, before the battles broke out. Remember? Here, let's shake on that to winter, to cold, to snow. Real snow. The Slowdown is a production of American Public Media in partnership with the Poetry Foundation. This project is also supported in part by the National Endowment for the Arts. On the web@arts.gov to get a poem delivered to you daily, go to slowdownshow.org and sign up for our newsletter and find us on Instagram slowdownshow.
Podcast Summary: The Slowdown: Poetry & Reflection Daily
Episode: encore [1224]: Here We Are by Lauren K. Whetel
Release Date: March 19, 2025
Host: Major Jackson
Produced by: APM Studios in partnership with The Poetry Foundation
Supported by: National Endowment for the Arts
In this poignant episode of The Slowdown, host Major Jackson delves into the deep-seated racial tensions and personal memories that shape his understanding of conflict and reconciliation. Opening with a heartfelt narrative, Jackson shares his experiences growing up in a racially divided neighborhood in North Philadelphia.
"I grew up in a section of North Philadelphia that was predominantly black and Latino. It bordered Brewery Town, which was predominantly white, particularly German, Polish, and Irish."
[00:00]
Jackson vividly recounts the childhood challenges, including the fear and hostility encountered when traversing Brewery Town to reach Fairmount Park. The memories are infused with personal anecdotes about racial animosity, such as:
"White kids yelled names, threatened harm, threw bottles at us."
[00:15]
He further illustrates the escalating tensions through incidents involving his older brothers, highlighting how acts of retaliation only deepened the divide:
"Our older brothers crossed Girard Avenue to steal bikes from unsuspecting kids, which fueled even more animosity."
[00:30]
Transitioning from personal narrative to broader reflections, Jackson speaks about a recent conference he attended, featuring voices from diverse backgrounds striving for peace. He emphasizes the universal struggle against inherited fears and the misconceptions surrounding victimhood:
"They spoke of inherited stories and beliefs that seed fear and prevent us from seeing others as humans."
[00:50]
Jackson underscores the critical message from the activists and lawyers he listened to:
"We cannot overcome hatred with hatred."
[01:05]
This powerful insight sets the stage for the poem Here We Are, encapsulating the yearning for connection amidst irreconcilable conflicts.
Lauren K. Whetel’s Here We Are serves as the centerpiece of this episode, offering a stark and moving portrayal of confrontation and the fragile hope for understanding.
Whetel begins by illustrating the tense encounter between adversaries:
"Here we are at last meeting face to face, like two heroes of opposing armies looking each other in the eye, poised to shake hands."
[02:20]
The poem poignantly questions the possibility of trust in a world marred by deceit:
"Do you trust me? Do I trust you? No. Trust died last century along with truth, so we'll have to think of something else to shake on."
[02:35]
Whetel delves into themes of loss and emptiness, reflecting on the aftermath of relentless conflict:
"Not to our health. Our health is bad and only getting worse. Not to our wealth, because no amount of riches could heal our poverty."
[03:00]
The imagery of desolation is starkly presented:
"Two envelopes of flesh with nothing folded inside. How did we survive?"
[03:20]
Whetel's use of natural imagery juxtaposes the emotional heat of the encounter:
"We stand high on the hilltop under a pallid moon, with the fields of bone surrounding us like a fresh snowfall. Except that the heat here is insufferable."
[04:00]
Here We Are encapsulates the despair and desolation that arise from prolonged conflict. Whetel’s choice of metaphors—ranging from military confrontation to barren landscapes—illustrates the emotional and physical toll of hatred and mistrust. The poem suggests a yearning for genuine connection and healing, yet remains skeptical about the feasibility of such reconciliation given the deep-seated wounds.
Returning to his initial reflections, Jackson ties the themes of the poem to the broader human experience. He highlights the universal desire for understanding and the arduous path toward overcoming ingrained animosities. By sharing Here We Are, Jackson invites listeners to confront their own prejudices and consider the possibilities of empathy and unity.
"Today's poem begins from the idea that we yearn for connection and healing, but that our conflicts feel irreconcilable to the point that we do not trust a future free of our trauma, grief, and suffering."
In wrapping up the episode, Jackson reiterates the essential role of poetry in fostering reflection and emotional connection. Here We Are serves as a poignant reminder of the challenges and hopes inherent in humanity's quest for peace and mutual understanding.
Listeners are encouraged to integrate such reflective moments into their daily routines, whether during morning coffee, a nature walk, or as they wind down for the night. By engaging with poetry, the episode emphasizes the importance of pausing to acknowledge and contemplate the complexities of the human condition.
Notable Quotes:
"We cannot overcome hatred with hatred."
— Major Jackson [01:05]
"Trust died last century along with truth, so we'll have to think of something else to shake on."
— Lauren K. Whetel, Here We Are [02:35]
"Two envelopes of flesh with nothing folded inside. How did we survive?"
— Lauren K. Whetel, Here We Are [03:20]
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