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The Smoking Tire
1000 w/ 17 Guests! (Sam Fane, Jay Leno, Emelia Hartford, Larry Chen,Spikes Car Radio, and more!)
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8 Hours of rotating guests including: Emelia Hartford Sam Fane Jay Leno Spike Feresten w Paul Zuckerman Christian James Hand Tati Reed Jonny Lieberman Elana Scherr JF Musial Larry Chen Vin Anatra Ron Zaras J Ryan (Unofficial Good Vibes founder) Phil Morris (actor) Marco Gerace (TLG Auto) Hanna Farah Sara Stringfellow Recorded March 31, 2025 Proper Cloth: Use code TIRE for 10% off your first order bit.ly/pc-smokingtire Get TWENTY PERCENT off your DeleteMe plan when you go to https://www.joindeleteme.com/TIRE and use promo code TIRE at checkout. To listen to DRIVE with Jim Farley, just search for “DRIVE with Jim Farley” in your podcast app. https://www.youtube.com/@Jim.Farley New merch! Grab a shirt or hoodie and support us! https://thesmokingtireshop.com/ Want your question answered? To listen to the episode the day it's recorded? Want to watch the live stream, get ad-free podcasts, or exclusive podcasts? Join our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thesmokingtirepodcast Use ...
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Matt Farah
What's up, everybody? Welcome to the Smoking Tire Podcast. It's a big week here on the podcast and off the Record is still with us. Of course, if you want to use off the Record, we have a new code for this year, TST 25 on the off the Record app. Throw away your old codes or go to offtherecord.com TST. Why should you do such things? Well, let's say you get a ticket. You, you've been pulled over for something and are ticketed. Don't argue with that police officer on the side of the road. Instead, take that ticket and call or go on the app to off the Record and then they help fight that ticket. And most of the time, in most of the cases, make it either go away or drastically reduce it. It is the best. And if you use our code with the off the Record app, again, that's code TST25, you'll save an additional 10%. Listen, off the Record does not cost a lot of money compared to even just paying the fine and the ticket, let alone the other things about that moving violation that could cause problems with your insurance, your potential employment, et cetera. Don't plead guilty. Get off the record. Go to offtherecord.com TST or use code TST25 on the off the Record app. Well, we are here, people. It's TST 1000. We have done this a lot of times and that is a lot of talking. And if you're here, then you are. You better be ready for a lot more of it. Because in the 1000th episode of the Smoking Tire podcast. This is an eight hour podcasting extravaganza with characters from all over the automotive industry, professionals, photographers, journalists, videographers, comedians, television personalities and more are stopping by to say hello on a very, very long per, hopefully the longest episode ever of the Smoking Tire podcast. It's episode 1000. Let's do this. Boom. Are we here? Is this it? We are here. Episode 1000 has begun. Episode Mie. Meal. Meal. Meal. Meal. Episode Snack. That was 500. This is the. I think this is the part where it's gonna get fun. Because I have to admit something from the part from planning this until right now or like 10 minutes ago, it really hasn't been like fun. Cause it's really felt like work and it's a good milestone. But like the planning and the scheduling and the this and the that and everyone, it felt just like regular podcasting, but with more work. Yeah, right. And you know, my wife Han, who's gonna Be here in a little bit. Her. Her family has a saying which I had embroidered in a pillow at our house, in Latin. And I don't remember exactly the Latin thing, but it's fun, is best when it's over. Oh, okay. I thought you were like, I don't remember the words, but the pillows, really. I don't remember the translation into Latin. Gotcha. Sui et something, something. But it's basically fun is best when it's over. And I think we're about to do eight hours of radio with a rotating cabal. It's a cabal of guests are coming through. It's a cabinet. A lot of czars. We have a lot of czars of guests. Welcome to Oligarch Radio. It's too early for that. I do actually have a. You know what's funny is, like, as I wrote, you know, normally I don't write out. I write topics of things in the news to talk about or things we've done I don't want to forget. But when we're just doing radio with our friends, there isn't like a program or a schedule or, like, I don't, like, really write out questions because we know these people. We don't need help doing radio. But with so much time to fill, 8 hours is a lot. And so I did write some thought starters. And if you look at the ones in the very beginning of the list versus the one I wrote over coffee this morning, they are starkly different. Okay. And as my mood sort of changed throughout. More stressed. More stressed. And, like, you could tell, like, the ones I started with, I was out in the backyard with the cats yesterday. So it's like, what do you feed cats on a road trip? It was a sunny day, you know, it was a beautiful, you know, perfect day outside by the pool with, you know, four little animals that I love and my wife. And then in the end, the last one I wrote after reading, you know, a few posts on, like, Reddit this morning over my coffee. It's like, best car to flee to Mexico, dude. The difference is crazy. Yeah. It sets your mood. It's really a way to start the day. The fun you're referring to is what we call third tier fun, where it's fun after the fact. Like backpacking. You go, that was a good time. But during it, you're like mosquitoes and rain and whatever, right? Yeah, right. Like, almost like a time when you remember America being great. Is it like that, Zach? Oh, man. I'm just saying. I'm just saying the. But I was reflecting earlier, before Johnny got here and wouldn't stop talking, before doing eight hours of radio that I was reflecting on, like, just what it means to do a thousand of anything. You know what I mean? Like, if you have any task and you do it one at a time, doing a thousand of them is a lot. Sure. And if that task takes two people several hours to do and you then do a thousand of them. Right. That's a lot of time. Did you do the math? Did you hear Johnny yell through the door? Because of the 32nd delay of what I said about him? And it's playing in the. Oh, that's great. So we can. We can talk. Shit. We have Johnny at the door and he'll hear us. Johnny has. He's a commenter, but in real life, 30 second delay. But no, it's like we. We've done a thousand things that take like three to four hours each. Yeah, well, that's a lot. Our average runtime is like 90 minutes. So that's. I just did the math. That's 1500 hours of podcasting, of talking that we have done. Well, Hannah got us a cake. It's in the lounge. Great. We'll put it on Instagram later. But it basically says, you know, the smoking tire, 1,000 episodes. So much talking. I saw that. Great comment. And 100% her sense of humor. Just so much talking. Yeah, she. I mean, she really apparently is. Is. Is quite the. The radio host. Because the comments and the. Not just the comments. The numbers. The numbers. I gotta stop doing that. The numbers. Too early. It's too early. I've had a lot of caffeine today already. Already. Already. I can tell you're tapping your pen. I've had that many milliliters. Very small. We have. I mean, we have a variety of substances throughout the day we can play with. We've got the Louie Louie. Got a case of the Louie Louie. We've got. Johnny brought two very special bottles of whiskey that he started to try to tell me about. And I was like, this is things we talk about on radio. So he'll bring those in. I told him. What time did you tell yourself you would. Was your cutoff for substances today? Like, how early are you willing to start drinking? Oh, not till 4. Oh, okay. I get tired an hour after I've started drinking. It doesn't work the way it did when I was like 25. I think what you have to do is what me and Glucker did, which was where we had a Celsius whiskey itself. It was a Celsius, not a Manhattan. What's the other one with whiskey that I can't remember right now? Wait, what's the drink that everyone? An Old Fashioned. There's a Celsius Old Fashioned. Oh, yeah, sure. That's the fancy Red Bull vodka. Absolutely. No, that is effective, and that's what I would. It was effective. It was great. Neither of you enjoyed the taste? No, it was very gross. That told me I didn't need to try it. But it was effective, definitely. You know what? That's the same with Rebel Vodka as well. So we've got so many people coming in today. I think it. I think it's like 20 people throughout the day, and we don't know exactly when they will show up. So. But we only have the. Here's what's going to happen. We only have four microphones, and that's intentional. We didn't want it to turn into one of those, like, you know, sort of free. We Learned on episode 200. If anyone listened to that, was it episode 200 where he tried to do like 12 people on Mike? It was a cacophony. It was five marching bands warming up in the same auditorium. It was just too much. I wonder if we bought. Because we were talking to someone about studio equipment the other day. I wonder if we bought this Yamaha board with all these inputs for that. We did. We did. We bought it for the 200th episode. It was the board. It was the only board we could find that had the most inputs, but wasn't the size of this table because there was no podcast industry back then. So we selected that one and then we learned our lesson. And now we never use any of the inputs beyond number four. Yeah. Now we have this Yamaha board and it has like 16 channels and it has. Each channel has, I don't know, 12 plus adjustments on it. And we move three levers and we press two buttons and people come in and look at it. That's the thing, having a big board. If you have people, you have people coming in. It's like having one of those conference tables that seats like 900 people and you're just one at each end, you know? Yeah. They look at the board and they go, holy shit. They care so much about their audio. That's right. It gives us the power. It's like that podcast network person, he used to show his firearm to potential partners. I wonder if that guy ever went to jail. No, I don't think so. No, I don't think he did. No. He's definitely he's on a boat parade somewhere, probably. But I just want to say a quick, quick thank you to the fans because we started doing this in 2011, in January, and we're like, maybe this will work or not work. And it was well received very quickly and it grew. And that's why we're at episode 1000. We kept doing it, but people kept listening. And you do need both components, right? Yeah, yeah. You know, the first component is to, like, not actually stop doing thing. That's, that's. I mean, it's definitely easier if you have the second. If you have fans and if you have some kind of revenue, it is easier to keep going. True. And so if we didn't get those things, eventually, first you get the fans, then you get the monies, then you get the power, then you get the women's, Then eventually someone bakes you a cake that says so much talking on it. Right. We podcasted our way into marriage and cake. Yeah, right. That is true. Kind of both counts. Yeah, in that order, but. Oh, shit, we should. Yeah, there he is. He's just come on in. Christian, James, Johnny, you can come in too if you want. Guys, today's episode is brought to you by Proper Cloth. I love Proper Cloth. They come in so clutch. 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So Johnny's goal is to be in and out of this show all day. Nice. I'm gonna do the same. Are you hanging out all day? I'm gonna do that. You are a good friend. This is a full. This is a marathon. We cross crossed paths in Vegas on Thursday. I was there, I was on an Audi gig and Julia invited me to the show. She was so kind. Invited me to the show. But like I did. I wasn't gonna be done until after. How was the show? I mean, it's talking about the dead at the Sphere. Dead and cool at the Sphere. Yeah, no, it's. This is the. This is the masterpiece. It's good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. But who's left in the dead? Like they're all. They're all dead. Mickey and Bob and. Well, the keyboard. The piano keyboard guy who's been with them forever. And our fifth of bassist's name. But he's also been. I mean, they have replacement. I mean, that's why. 20 years at this point. I understand. At least they acknowledge when Jerry died very well. That was 94 or something. Four or five. But I was. I was in there the other day watching Mayor and I'm like, oh, this is going to go on forever. Because they're just going to have him take a step to the left and then there'll be some new dude who'll come in and play the mayor role. And the fans will just be like, absolutely, dude. We are fans haven't cared what the music sounded like since about 82. So that's what drugs does. Yeah. I don't tell you, but they do care what it looks like visually. Yeah, man. No, I think this is really extraordinary. If you get the opportunity, you should absolutely go check it out. Okay. We. I have to talk to Julia about dates because we really do. Seventeenth is the. Is the next cycle up, so. All right. We'll. We'll figure out how to do that. Yeah. Sphere rules. When it is. When it is done. Yep. It's done, right? Yeah. Yeah. Very exciting. Johnny. Hi. Hi. What's up? Tell me about that booze you brought and wanted to tell us. Oh, I should have brought. You want to go grab it? No, no, no, it's okay. Visuals tell and then show. You're here all day. We're here all day. All right. But I just want to know. You were like so excited to tell me. What? Well, I wanted to start drinking now. I thought you fucking Can. I Might. I might. I wanted to, like, I. I ubered here. So my goal is, you know, don't worry. You'll need to Uber at home. What we should talk about is how extra comfort is bullshit when it comes to Lyft. Uber and Lyft. Yeah. It's just savage. Shrinkflation has come to Uber and Lyft comfort. I just got a Kia fucking Nero. I had a Kia niro. Extra comfort two days ago. Extra comfort, my fucking ass. That's a 24,000 dol. Goddamn car. But even I had a Lexus. I don't know. ES350 hybrid. That's comfort. Kind of. But, like, every. Because these cars do such mileage, the rear shocks are blown on every single one of them. Every single one. The guy playing music that I hate, you know, it's easy to do. Yeah. Let's be honest. Leap them. And there's like three bands. Let me rephrase this. Playing music at all. Even though in my profile it says silent and cold heats on playing. I don't know. You probably love it. Some horrible pop song from the 80s. And, like, why am I paying extra for this? I. I agree. Okay. The driver should respect the quiet. Cool. Kaja. Google is expensive, friend. You know what I'm saying? Waymo is the future. That's all I'm gonna say. You know, I do get it. Yeah. I do get it. Yeah. Uber. Uber and Lyft drivers sometimes not doing themselves any favors. I've had some. I've had some epic ones. The best. Epic. Epically silent. And like, very interesting. Sometimes. Don't they ask you, like, do you want conversation or not? Every time. It's a default on the app settings. Great thing to have. And I see it come up. You get in the car and you see the thing come up and says, this rider likes. Yeah, yeah. Mine is frozen. Silent. Frozen and silent. Yeah. Like a coffin, you know, but the whiskey. So in November, I went to Kentucky and two friends, Bill Binder and Drew Stoddard. So Stoddard founded Stoddard Spirits. And their first imprint on the label is Binder, Stache, Bill Bender. Bender. Stache. You brought some before. Which we tasted, and it was good, but it was rocket fuel. This is much more. Oh, no. That one might have been rocket. Rocket fuel. That might have been the one that was like 145. Yeah, it was. Dude, you could. You could run the DeLorean. Would have started in back to the 50s. My car would start on that. Yeah, that's. That's 145 proofs a lot. So I brought one that's 138.15 and one that's 139. So nothing even close to 145. Nothing close to 145. And I picked these barrels myself. This is basically. Lemonade is basically what you brought. Oh, yeah. Delicious. Yeah, for kids. And so I picked these barrels in Kentucky and they're called. We have the Invisible Swordsman and the Singing Bush because it was me and Bo. You named these? Yeah. Me and Bill are obsessed with the three Amigos. So you obviously remember the scene where they had to find the singing bush and then ask the. This sounds like a series of porn anime that would exist. It was like Immaculate Conception is the Invisible Swordsman. I guess you've never seen the movie. It's a comedy masterpiece. It's not Trace Amigos, it's Three Amigos. Do you have anything besides Mexican food? It's the best movie of all time. So anyways, pick these and we're gonna. I want to finish both of them today, so. Oh, all right. Well, I'm sure people will be happy to help. 20 people come and you've. Wow. This isn't your first taste of the result, is it? Oh God, no. Okay. I've been drinking them. No, no, no. They're very good. But I brought you. I brought you a bottle of each and. Yeah, well, when. When it's time to drink, I will be in the game. And I'll. Even for you for this, I'll do it without water. Of course without ice. Maybe water. Because 139 is still. That's. No, no, you don't want water. Remember? That's a healthy amount of horse. Remember the lovely night we spent drinking 19 different bourbons? How was the next day? Rough. Yeah, but. But that night. Did you have ice? Did you have water? Everything was great. Everything was delicious. I think I did put a little bit in some, but I was very. I was under a lot of pressure. Once you get. You're like, that's delicious for sure. And then you just leave the water. I actually didn't get that drunk. I felt like we tasted a very small amount of high volume bourbons. But whatever mess it made in my stomach was significant. That could have been the barbecue. We started eating 32. We also paired it with barbecue. It was ginarnaar. That was a lot of fun. Empty houses are. It was a real dude night. It was the dudest of furniture. Dudest of dude nights. Yeah. Like a ton of booze. In a house with absolutely no furniture. Yeah. Women come in the door. It was fantastic. Yeah, it was good. That sounds like a horror movie waiting to happen. Or high school and my, like, least favorite social interaction, actually, if. If that whole night was. That's a guy with autism just skimming in the corner is what that is. You know what I mean? Anybody getting weed? No. Anybody getting. Please, anybody get any weed? Literally no weed. I think. I think if that night was condensed, it would have made the greatest first seven minutes of a horror movie. You know, like someone that's like, go on Reddit or something and, like, writing prompts, like, take it from there. Like, eight car industry people are around a kitchen island having just consumed 70 pounds of barbecue and 19 different bourbons in a house that has absolutely no furniture in it. Discuss. Black guy dies first. Oh, he's the only one surviving. There's a black guy in the car industry. It's. That's why he. If we get Jordan Peele on this, that is what will happen. Oh, Marco Jerrassi in the house. Good. Now Jay Ryan will have someone to talk to in the lounge. It's all happening, by the way. We've opened the shade. Is this beard? Is this staying? You know, I love this vibe. It actually kind of has grown on me a little bit. It's. It's actually kind of a good vibe for me. It's. Oh, Phil Morris here. Oh, wow. It looks like you could also, if you put a different outfit on, you could be like a Greek shipping magnet for sure. You know what I mean? I'm leaning into my racial ambiguity. Yeah. Or Rob Rer. Either Jewish or Greek. I did it for one day and someone commented like, oh, Good, no more January 6th look. And I was like, yeah, can't go back to that now. I. You know, you can't unknow things as AR boxes. It's true. Oh, boy. Once you see that in the mirror, once you're like, oh, it really is digging through the closet and throwing away all my wraparound sunglasses. No, I need them for motorcycling, I swear. Right, yeah. They are good for that, though, versus the ones we normally wear. No, this is. This is good. The problem is I have to shave my head every other day. Now I gotta get you the razor pit. That. The thing that allows you to have a regular razor will last for months. Oh, it's like a normal razor blade sharpener thing. No, it's like. It's literally like plastic, like, almost neoprene. And you just. Because what little thing for Everybody in the crowd. The blades don't blunt. What happens. Is that the combination of the shaving cream and the fragments of hair glue to the edge. Yeah. So what this does is you just do that and it cleans it all off. I've been using this thing for like 20 years. And I will have a Gillette will last two to three months. No way, dude. I'm telling you everybody. Razorpit. It's like 20 bucks on Amazon and it's. I buy them for all of my friends for Christmas. I should have got you. Really. Meanwhile we've been friends for six years. All his friends, old friends. And I kept thinking I should get you one of these. Harry of Harry's razor is gonna run. She actually gets me better gifts than that. But I'll take one of them. Yeah, no, it's great. What about. I've seen dudes do that like, I don't know what you call it, Nair. But like the stuff that burns the hair off and you only have to do it like once every two weeks. Oh, Nair, my friend. Yeah, it is Nair. Yeah. But it's. It's the smell of burning hair. But it's a chemical burn. Yeah. And it is the most gag worthy smell. It's horrible. Someone just suggested I laser my whole head. Which I was like, that will hur a lot. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. And you don't even go multiple times. Do they do that? I don't even care from anything. Google plastic surgery disaster. Yeah, but I wouldn't do that. One of the funniest things in college is a friend of mine tried to Nair his butt cuz he had a fuzzy butt. And after about four minutes he ran to the bathroom going. It was quite funny. Do you remember the. It's like some honey based like hair removal like you. Oh yeah. And you rip it off. It's called waxing. Yeah. But you do it at home. It's like. It's called home wax. Home waxing. Yeah. Yeah. Listen man, it's really honey flavored home wax. So I got a lot of body hair. Most people don't know it tastes like honey. How do you know I got a lot of body hair? My friend Becky's like, we should like do your back, you know. And I was like, okay. And she goes, let's try it on your arm. And so she. I would never seen more blood on a arm. Yeah. No. And they do it on Steve Carell and 40 year old virgin. That's real blood and real scream. Yeah. Oh, you don't want to do that. It was awful. I'm doing an anti ad right now. Like years ago we did an ad for one of those, you know, like mail order razor blade companies. Yeah, yeah, right. Direct to consumer. And actually, you know, they sent us stuff and I actually, I thought considering the price difference and whatever, and particularly for me that they were free because we got a bunch for the ad. Sure, sure, that. Ah, cool. And actually when we stopped doing the ad, they were still were pretty cheap and so I just kept buying them. Then they started selling them in the store and now they're the same price as the other shop. Yeah, I saw that the other day. So I ran out and I'd been using them. The former mail order brand, they don't have any. So I bought a Gillette Fusion Mach 5 or something. Seven blades. So fast. I went back and I used it and I was like, oh dude, this is, this is a Ferrari. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I, I have been, I've been in an Impala ss. This is a Ferrari. I did the same thing. Oh my God. It was the one that begins with H. And I was like, all right, let's check these guys out. And then the first thing I was like, no, no, no, this is substandard steel that they use. No, they were I guess my head space when they were free factory. Yeah. And we had a lot of them. We had a lot still burning through old back catalog. Yeah. Cuz Zach shaves like three times a year. When are we going to get a beard on Zach? I've tried it' this is four weeks right here. If you turn to the right, you can just see it. I did that a couple years ago. I like grew the mustache attempt for November and I was talking to someone, I was like, yeah, I grew it in for November. And they went, oh, I didn't notice. And I went that experiment, stolen valor. Imagine getting accused of stolen valor in Movember. No, I swear, dude, you have like a really. It's a photo every day for 30 days. It was more like I was actually in the military, but they didn't believe me because I wasn't wearing fatigues that looked, looked real enough. There was like, I can't even tell. So it's this. Wow. Yeah, it's easier. It is easier. And you could have subscription blades that will last you five years. Subscription. Right. One time. Yeah. The razor. The razor pit is the way. One and done. Did you find it on Amazon? What did you find? I saw you Google. Yeah, yeah, no, it's 26 bucks. Yeah. It's absolutely bonkers. Totally worth it. Yeah. So there you go. Free shout out to. He's an Australian that invented razor pit. That's a Australian type. A thing that makes stuff last longer is a very Australian or. Or New Zealand type of vibe. It's expensive to get down. Yeah. That island, you gotta ship it all in. My parents live. That's why Johnny comes in with the heat. Dude. Five years. It was like a hundred bucks for a gallon of paint, I think. Yeah. Yeah. My cousin and I were gonna put the hole in the fantasy of moving to New Zealand. Guys, support for the smoking tire comes from the podcast Drive with Jim Farley. You know Jim Farley. He's the CEO of Ford. 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Yeah, we were going to set up like an illicit skate shoe thing because skate shoes are so crazy expensive there because everything has to be imported. So apparent etne's it'll be like 35 bucks or like 125. I was like, dude, we should just ship. Well, you know, we get enough tariffs going here, it'll be the same price as New Zealand. That's true. I just met a guy on my street. Street. He. I was working out. You know, when I work out with my trainer, I work out in the driveway. Garage slash driveway. And rich. Man 4 Man, that's a. That's a good Jeff Foxworthy. Oh, working out in the driveway. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I suppose. Working out in the yard. Your yard? Working out in the yard? Yeah, the yard, I suppose. Yeah. Is that like, what, something that's like the prison yard? No, but I'm saying, like. Like, name something that's like, bad if you're poor. I really haven't heard, Jeff. A fridge in your garage. It's really. It's a good price premise. Okay. Yeah. Like hardcore or. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know. The dude that for decades wrote all of the, you know, you're a redneck if. Oh, yeah. And he is straight up, hello, I'm from England. Of course. Of course. And I was like, wait, what? He was like, no, that's what I do. I write the. You know, you're a redneck if you find 98 Cosmo magazine from 98. The sex tips. Me and my friend Rose wrote them. Wow. We would get drunk in New York and we would be. We would just come up with the dumbest, dumbest things you could think of, and they would just. And what was the pen name? Oh, it was. He was writing them. I don't know nothing. It was dear. It wasn't like. It wasn't merely, Martin, you have to be qualified to do the job. I can't remember his last name. Jonathan Southern. Just a dude I knew in New York, a writer. And I was like, you know, he was working on his novel and I'm like, you know, how do you support yourself? He's like, well, I write for magazines. I write for Cosmo. Like, what do you write for, boss? Like, the sex tips. I'm like, hilarious. I'm like, do you talk to girls? Like, no, I used to. You know, basically. I mean, the dumbest. I used to work for my guy, you know, at Run Track, who was Hunter Thompson's assistant and. And worked at Playboy for many years. You know, he's the editor in chief of Playboy now. He will. He's relaunching Playboy, which is hilarious and crazy and very on brand for my guy. So shout out to him on brand. But he. Yeah, he would tell me that, like, you know, they would write all, like, the letters, like, sitting around the office, like, doing drugs and being like, yeah, so what are we doing here? I didn't believe the stories in your magazine till the other day. The weirdest thing happened. The old house forum. Amazing. I should just point out we weren't just drunk, we were also on a lot of drugs. Yeah, of course. Of course. So I think here's where we go now. We have a. We have a quorum in the lounge. I think there's, like, four people in the lounge. You guys will drop. Yeah, well, we can, one at a time, go. Go tap somebody in, and then in a few minutes, you can go tap somebody. Try and Keep it moving. I think maybe 30 minutes max before relaxations, especially. You doing good. Yeah. I missed out on the Papa Roach. I'm sorry. It wasn't. It wasn't you. But Jerry texted me the next day and was like, bro. Actually texted me that afternoon. Was like, bro, can you tonight? And I was like, no, I saw your. Dude. We. We had Phil Morris come on in. Oh, Phil and Jay. Come on in. Phil. Sit down, sit down, sit down. Hey, Jay. Before. Yeah, just before Christian gets out of here. Jay, you can party. Mike, until you. Until you. No, but. But you're going to take Christian's chair in a second. No. No. Are you not going to stay and do radio? Yeah. Yeah. Hey, Christian. Never met each other up in the Crest all the time. Legendary Seinfeld character actor and wonderful human being. Thank you. Porsche owner. Good human. Make yourself comfortable. I was just saying, like, I went to Papa Roach and Rise Against. Yeah. So I thought it was Saturday night. I put it in my calendar is Saturday night. And I talked to Jerry Horton from the guitar player from Paparo. Listener, drummer, Guitar player. I was playing guitar player. Jerry's the guitar player. Is he really? Yes, absolutely. Who's playing drums then? Not Jerry Horton. He is absolutely playing guitar. That's very strange. And a Dave Grohl. Yeah, I mean, that would be. Does he also play drums? I think release terms as well. I thought it was. I thought he was honestly playing drums in Papa Roach, but obviously not. I mean, he seems really good at playing guitar. And so if he also plays drums, then good for Jerry. And he couldn't have been nicer. I never met in person he was so nice. And Rise against opened. And first thing, Rise against is like, what did you hear Christian sound? Remember we went and saw Rise. He didn't like Rise Against Love, but it was because of their sound mix, not because of their. No, it's because of that note. Because of what? The one note. Oh, yeah, right. I do remember that now. I remember that. Anyway, I fucking love Rise Against. You do? I got. And this was my first time I had ever gotten a true all access pass. Nice. Like, here's a badge. No door is closed anywhere in the stadium. And so me and Crook were like, let's open this door. Let's open. I got. I got to 10ft of tim, but he was talking to people and busy. And I didn't want to be that guy. Right. And Jerry was like, well, why didn't you? I was like, cause I didn't want to be the guy. But I think now we have to find a reason to go somewhere else. Papa Roach was amazing. They were such a great live band and they are very underappreciated in today's music world. They were all awesome. Rise against was also awesome. And. And I think we need to find a city that they're going to road trip and get a fun car and, and go and see them and maybe go out for a drive with Jerry before the show. He was into that. But yeah, if. Go look on if you're at all remember Papa Roach from like the last 20 years. Like see if they're coming to your city and go check them out. They're great live. What was the show? Was it the Forum? The Forum. Sold it out. Out. Great. Sold it out. It was. It was a real delight. I thought you guys were white clawing. I thought this is really. All right, I'm gonna tap out. Jay Ryan. All right. Jay Ryan in the house. Christian's gonna. Christian and Johnny have committed to hanging out all day. So they're gonna. They're gonna tap in and out all stars. Johnny came out. He was like, next up. I saw, I saw Pat Long is here and Marco. Okay, so after coffee. So at 11 o'clock after you get. We're gonna do half hour shifts, increments, and then. And you can stick around for multiple shifts. But I want to get it going. Hi, guys. Hey, buddy. Jay Ryan, get the mic a little closer to you. Crack on here. Oh yeah. I should be a professional. Aren't you like, you know. But I do speak for my. My diaphragm. So it does travel. I'll turn you down a bit. Do I need to hand you a script for like a cartoon? I'm good with improv. All right. I'm really good at improv. What's going on? You've never been in our never program. I haven't been. This facility. Isn't it nice? I am. Did you walk around absolutely stunned? No. I gotta get. Make my boys do it. They are trained well. He's tell you all the way. Jay did our studio. Yeah. This room I know very well. Jay did this room for. For people at home who don't know. Jay Ryan is a. Is a. He's done Hollywood movie cars. He's done behind the scenes crew stuff at a variety of film and television shows. He runs Good Vibes Breakfast Club up at. At Newcomb's ranch. He drives that famous yellow 997 with the meatball on the side of it. Yellow car and all around friend of the show. And. And. And on top of everything else, built this studio. So he's not just a friend of the show. He's. He's like, technically. Well, technically, he's a W9 employee. And so they're independent contractor. Non. Covered by workers comp. No tripping. I got a good lawyer for you if you need it, Jack. And of course, you know, Phil is the legendary Jackie from Seinfeld and a gentleman who knows a thing or two about sports cars. I've enjoyed it in my life. And I think I'm one of the more like John Q. Public car guys, as opposed to the Wrencher. I think Zach and I have talked about this before. I don't wrench, but I love cars. I did go to Auto center, up to la. Art center of Design for six months for automotive design. Did you really? I. And it got a little too engineering intensive for me. What years was that? 1977. Oh, wow. 1977. Because right after that is when I started out. Six months. Did you meet anyone who went on to do anything awesome? Not that I can remember. I remember a lot of time in my car, which was a Pinto at the time, trying to do these, like, drag coefficient numbers. And as soon as it was like, blurry, it's like, I'm out. I'm out. You're like, I'll draw this shit. I just want to draw cool stuff. You know what I mean? So, yeah, so I bounced out of that, went on location with my dad and became an actor. It's funny. What's really funny is you ended up at Art Center a little bit. Just saying, like, just because, like, I've said this on our show throughout the years, a million times. I wanted to draw cars when I was a kid. And I got some actually really bad advice from really smart people who all said, oh, you wanna design cars, you need to be a mechanical engineer. And they sent me to a place where people learned to design parts, not cars. What's funny is you went to the place I should have gone to, but six months in have what is a very similar complaint to what I would have had about engineering school after the same period of time. So the grass. Not always. I mean, you gotta make sure the car runs. Runs well, that all four contact patches stay on the grass. Listen, the richest man in the world would absolutely disagree. That is not important at all. Or empathy. But yeah, I digress. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Toxic empathy. Well, thank you for having me. I'm honored to be here. I feel. I feel a little bit like a cheater. I'm like, what'd you drive up today? I brought my 9911. Okay. Good car. I didn't drive the RA yet, but I drove it all the way around town yesterday with my nephew. So I give him a break. You are. You are a man with good taste in cars. Thank you. Yeah, thank you. I've lucked out. No, not lucked out. You've actively chosen good cars. You've had good ones over the years. It's not just right now you've got a good spot. I say lucky because, yes, I like what I like and I research the shit out of it. I think I make my own luck because then I try to find the vehicle that not only right for me, but then I can troubleshoot and see if it really is right for me, as opposed to the way it looks or what everybody says. So when, okay, so do you. When you are acquiring cars because you have a couple, not a crazy amount, but a couple, do you approach it passion first or sort of objective first, like always passionate. Okay. So it's. Well, it's. I've always wanted this. What is what? What version of that can I afford? Right, exactly. Like when I had the R8 and I was talking to Jay and I was like, I gotta get back into a 911. Remember? We were like, we gotta get you back. Yeah, exactly. Because you had so many in the past. I couldn't understand why you were driving on that road without one now. Agreed. And I understood. Next week he shows up. So I manifested. I don't really talk about much that I don't do. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, I dream and I manifest a lot of stuff, but I don't really kind of fantasize. I like to ground it. So when I start talking about something. What was it about the R8 in the first place? It's a lovely car. It's an interesting story, my best friend. I've seen it. But tell the people what. It's an R8, 2018 R8 rear wheel series, which is a non quattro real series drive car, normally aspirated, no turbos. So it's just a real mid engine rocket. I had actually counseled my buddy who bought it. I bought it from him to buy the Aston Martin at the time, the vantage, the 18. This would have been Vantage. Yes. Yeah. And then Johnny Lieberman, who you just had, did a road test between the Aston Martin I wanted him to buy and the R8. Fel. Read the sign, bro. Don't bang on the table. The audience should be. You're a fucking professional. Let's go. So not just Sunday. Johnny swung the hammer the other way. Well, yeah. Well, he actually picked the Aston Martin, which I advocated my friend to buy. But he didn't buy that you didn't want to buy the car that Johnny backed. You're like, nope, I'll go the other way. I think that is the correct course of action. Sounds like you heard what Johnny's verdict was and you went, well, that can't be. No, no, it's exactly the opposite. I actually advocated for the Aston Martin. My buddy went against him, but my guy has a heart condition and he was forced to sell the car because he couldn't drive any longer. So I went to Nashville and I picked the car up and I drove it to Atlanta, where I was doing a job, and I loved it so much that I asked him what he would. Yeah. What I could give him for it. He told me, and I paid it and drive it home. You drove it home? No, I put on the trailer. That's okay. And drove it home. But driving home is a boss move. But not. You know. It's not. Not from Nashville. I just drove my car from Detroit. Yeah. An electric car. Electric car, yeah. Okay, I got you. But I wasn't willing to pie that many miles on it initially. Yeah. And how many miles you put on it now? A lot. Right? Yeah, I got at 35, 000. Yeah, it's a bunch. It's good for an R8. I'm doing it, you know. Good. No, I. I'm a driver. I don't ever buy anything to put in the garage on a car like that. Miles are cheap. As I need it underfoot. Yeah. Yeah. Miles are cheap. Yeah. Yeah. So that's. I need it underfoot. That's. Seriously, do you collect anything else that isn't cars? Comic books. Really? I have a 20, 000 issue comic book collection. Does it have its own room? Yes, it does. How big is the room? It's got its own room. But. Hang on, hang on, hang on. No, it's in the master bedroom. Oh. On full display with the TV wall. Instead of a library. Nothing but comics. My wife made me build the wall unit. Okay, but that's. But it's. But it's. It sounds well presented. Okay, cool. Everything. And then your TV's right in the middle. Yes. It's pretty boring. I go to bed staring at it. It's awesome. Do you take them out and read them? I haven't for years. You can't touch them. It devalues them. Put on gloves. Put the gloves on. No, no, I. Bags and boards and all that stuff. Yeah. But I buy these big compilations, so if you want to read those issues, I got this big old epic graphic size book. Oh, it's like a bunch of books. Yeah. You don't have to mess my up. Right. You can read Silver Surfer 1 if you'd like. Right, exactly. Exactly, right. What's the coolest comics I have? Two. 1948 Captain America's. Wow. That. How. When did Captain America start? I don't know anything about comics. He started for World War II. Okay. So around that time. Yeah. So that's pretty cool. Cool. Very cool. Yeah, I have. I have a bunch of fun stuff. Is it rude to ask what the value of those 19? Because I don't know anything about first. Captain America was 1940. 41. Yeah. Can't imagine why they. Propaganda. So what you're saying is, Captain, it's coming back. Yeah, well, you know, they got a lot of guys. Captain America. So they're growing up. Yeah. They're evolving. But yeah, I've been, you know, I was a kid, I just. I just loved them. You know, it taught me to read. It taught me to visualize, you know, being in movies. Now they're all storybooks. Yeah. So it really. It helped my imagination incredibly and. And I drew. That's why it makes so much sense. They turned into such huge movie franchises because the storytelling has always been there. It's right there, like from 1941. And it's like, it's almost having a storyboard on the page. Like, well, they're gonna punch him here. They see him out of the building. Exactly. And it's already. They stick with that in the films. The more fans like me go, get out. That's awesome. Yeah, for sure. You know, because we're like fantastic 452. First. First appearance of Black Panther. Yes. More, please. Now, do you have an allegiance to Marvel or DC or Image or all of them? Well, as a kid, you had to pick a song, right? Yeah. DC or Marvel? At that time, there was no Image. I think Image was an idea. There's no image. I remember when Image started, as a matter of fact. But yeah, I was a Marvel guy. I think Marvel held my image as an African American male first. Like I said, Black Panther was the first. Then D.C. came along with some other characters. But it was the first comic book that I was like, wow, I'm in it. I'm a superhero. So Marvel was Always my joint. And, and I love Stan Lee and I love Jack Kirby and I love those creators. So Marvel, like. Well, the comics were super, I don't want to say progressive because it's like they were just, they represented a lot of the world more than a lot of other media did at the time, like early on. Agreed. Yeah, agreed. It was like our modern mythology too, you know, Superman and Batmans of the world, they were, they were our gods and our. Yeah, we pinned our hopes on in a way. So as a kid I loved it and I love them to this day. I just don't collect them like I used used to. So are there, you mean new ones? You haven't letting anything go from this? No, no, I haven't sold not one since I was. Yeah, at a certain point you go, this is my stuff. And, and like this is what I like. Yeah. And I mean, I imagine the stuff that was not easily attainable when you were actively collecting is no more attainable now. Exactly. And the new stuff maybe is not so desirable. So like here you are with your fixed collection of comic books. You're nailing it. Yeah. It's kind of like cars, I guess, you know, if you have the ability to get certain vehicles, you know, you, you really research it. It's passion based, you know, you want to keep them in a way, you know. I was just down at Singer the other day and we're going to talk to Maz from Singer really soon. But he said the best customers are the ones that are sort of reaching to be able to pay for the car. Where they go, okay, if I sell this and if I save this and believe it or not, there are some people that everyone who buys a singer can't buy 12 singers, a lot of them can. But like some people stress, does that make them happier, more grateful to have it kind of thing, they more enjoy the process. Yeah. He said they're easier customers. They're more decisive about what they want. They don't flip flop a zillion times. They're less sort of of needy, critical. Yeah, they're just sort of so happy to be doing it. I feel the same way. I just got my 911 back from Kalis Rensport, who I go to. That's who I go to. And I can't tell you how excited I was to pay them. What did they do? I got new tires, I rebalanced my stuff. I had an oil thing change, just like normal stuff. But it probably just felt nice. It's just a process. I'm in there I'm seeing models and I see unbelievable vintage 911s on the rack. And I'm just in an environment that as a car guy I could just hang out in and love. So it's like the price of doing business, right? That's the cost of doing business. So if you have to reach for that cost, it does mean a little bit more to you for sure. You're a little bit more immersed in the experience. I got. Dude, we have our, I mean, we're going to talk to our friend Marco in a minute who humble brag here. If you cold call Marco right now and want him to do a top end on your air cooled car, he'll tell you like November next year. But if I call him and I say I have a guy who really, then we can get him in, you know, next week, it's like a different thing. And that customer, it's not my car, it's not for me. He doesn't even work on my car. I don't have an air cooled car anymore. But like that customer feels like we've done such. Oh my, oh my God. It's a deal, man. It's a big deal and we appreciate it. We really. Yeah, they do. I mean, I'm thinking about that from this side of the line, right? I appreciate that effort. I appreciate you extending because these are not, I don't wanna say normal. These are not average cars. These are cars that require, you know, a certain amount of connection and you have to drive it a certain way. And when we have people in a village that helps us supports that, I really hope that there's like that young people hear podcasts like this and understand that like if they learn to work on cars like that, they can make a fabulous, a fabulous living forever. I mean you make a lot of money, not like easy work. You need to be an expert. And it's physical and it can be dirty. But like listen, our friends that do this stuff, well, they make a great living, they support their families, they get to build themselves really cool toys that they get to play with and they go racing. There's also another element is that like you have a tangible, you can see your work being completed versus like if you work in a large data company or something that's more like, I don't know, just a tech company. You contribute, right? Severance, you contribute to a tiny thing that eventually becomes a big thing. Same with Hannah. When Hann is it Facebook and Twitter, it's like, oh, you change this to purple. And the Number goes up by 4%. Whereas when she was at Mattel or she now has a new job, she finally got fucking jobs. So yay. At a company called Otterbox that makes cell phone and very rugged electronics covers even that. It's like a product that people not only buy a lot of physically, but passionately seek out if they're in certain types of industries, certainly if you're a contractor or whatever. Like, name another cell phone cover, like, brand, you know? So. Yeah. You know what I've just realized, Zach? We had everything good for this show. I forgot my fucking glasses. They're in my backpack. Can you no one of us to get them? I'm go get them. That's. Yeah, that's rough. I couldn't do what? I can't read the notes. I couldn't. Oh, you have to ask people the three questions. Yeah. I can't read my own shit. Can I just say congratulations? No. I'm sure they said it a few minutes ago and you're gonna hear it all day, but this is. A thousand is an amazing accomplishment. Thank you. Yeah. It's really wild. Does it feel good? I mean, I see we've got balloons and a cake. My wife brought balloons, which is fantastic. And then Hannah brought a cake, which is very sweet. How does it feel, My wife? I haven't seen you since. I don't think. Yeah, we have. I saw you when you first pulled up to Good Vibes and you got out and you looked around. I don't want to repeat what he said. You were a little surprised by the turnout, and I just happened to be there when it happened. And I started laughing the way you're laughing, I remember. And you were not laughing. I was just like. Yeah, it was a little daunting. It was daunting. Yeah, it was a daunting. I was all the way up by the sign. I couldn't get any closer. Yeah. Now, when I saw you in Manhattan beach, were you married yet? Were you married? Yes. We'd only been married two weeks. Okay, so this is a great story. Yeah. So I saw Zach in Manhattan beach with his wife. And I see this, like. Like, I'd met you once, I think, at gbbc, and then we saw each other at the house. Right. And I. They were this incandescent ebullent couple. This light was just shining around these two. Right. And I. I'm not quite exactly sure, but I think you were, like, retracing steps and going places that you had seen or you'd taken for a drive in the Car that you loved. We were just out. We were out in the. The Revology Mustang. Yeah, it was like November 5th or 6th. We were just like, let's just go for a drive in this fun car. Sarah's not into cars that much, but fastback Mustangs she goes nuts for. So we went for fun drive. Yeah. So she was all lit up and you were all lit up and it was just beautiful to see them. I didn't know that you had just gotten married. I know that you were together for a while, but man, it was great to see you and it was great to see that energy and that vibe coming off you and doing what you were doing. Awesome. Zach is a very happily married man. Loved it. Yeah. Loved seeing it. I mean, you've been married for six months. That's perfect timing. Wow. You dig some holes, my friend. Was a thousand episodes. I can't talk like a little bit of shit. The opening. I haven't listened to the whole episode. I feel that everyone should be very grateful for their wives. I just want to say, put in perspective. Jay, thank you so much. Oh, my God. The opening. Like, shout out to Zach and Sarah, by the way, who slept on my floor that last week? That was a crazy. You guys all were there, but I mean, that was above and beyond. I love you and I loved Nicole. Don't make me stab you. I will. Fuck. I think I will see that it's you. If your reaction to me making a joke at my wife's expense is be happy you have one. I'm just. I'm just going to fucking stab you. It's a thousandth episode. You can do whatever you want. That was a wonderful series of one ups for the show. Matt's like, well, you're newly married and you're like, well, your wife's alive. And it's like, well, you. For a minute there was a false confidence. I don't know what happened. Oh my God. So good. And all I have is a pen. It won't feel very. It's ribbed, for fuck's sake. It's not going to puncture. Usually that's. I would have to twist it. Zach and I came up with three questions that we wanted to ask everybody and they require a pretty condensed response. You know, it's sort of a. Sort of a lightning round. Okay, so should we go. Should we go 1 1, 2, 2, 33 or 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3. What do you think about this formatting? Do the 1 1, 2, 21 1. Easier for editing. Okay, Zach. Super cuts question one for Phil and Jay. Question one. What were you doing in 2012? Let's say professionally. That's when we started this podcast. That's when we started the show, because this is a thousand episodes. I was still acting. I've been acting forever. 2012. I don't remember the show is on, but actor IMDb can probably tell us. Jay, what about you? What were you doing in 2012? This morning told me what I was doing in 2012. And. And I was. Nicole and I owned an entertainment company, and I was at WonderCon with Craig Robinson, Seth Rogen, Danny McBride, and all the guys from this Is the End. Fuck. Whoa. And now you're here with us. I think you're the only person in this entire thing whose shit has gone down. That's supposed to be an uplifting question. I was chilling with a whole bunch of celebrities in my big Hollywood job, and now I'm in a fucking dark room with you people. Yeah. And he brought. Well, it was on Facebook this morning, so. Their memory. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Okay. Jay was really doing it in 2012. We were. Honestly. That was. That was. We had just started our company, I think, the year before, in 2011. Nicole and myself, and. And we were. We were killing it. And it was before things got real. She was already diagnosed with ms, but wasn't like she could still work. We were both charging through. Wow. So, yeah, it was. It was actually a pretty good time. It was a good time. Phil, you were on a show called Super. Yes, I was. You were TV series Sick. You were on one episode. But what was Super Fuckers about? What was the name of your character? So, you know, if you look at my IMDb, it's got, like, almost 400 credits, so I almost remember nothing about what I totally. And then last week, I did shake it up as well with Zendaya. That was a big one. Ooh, there we go. So Zendaya has become this incandescent movie. Yeah, you've been in a lot of stuff, but that obviously leaps out of the page among Green Lantern, and it sounds like a hit. What's the. Is there a Rotten Tomatoes rating for that? It was so awesome. What is that but awesome? I think we were a bunch of superheroes that were just dysfunctional and disgusting. Correct. A team of superpowered teens use their powers to get high, play pranks, and fight everyone except the bad guys. Yeah. I mean, actually, it's, like, not a bad concept. It was a lot of fun. Pretty decent. What was the guy who played that. Who played Bud on Married with children. David Faustino. Yeah, David Faustino was the lead. Oh, and he was awesome. I loved David Faustino. He seems like a good hang. He was cool as him. Him and oh, and I. I'd like to hang out with Robert Eiler who played Anthony. AJ Soprano. Oh yeah. He seems like a. A level hang, that guy. Yeah, he was amazing on Are you garbage? Have you guys tried to get. He probably. Come on here. We had Jenny Siegler on ours because of the Ms. Connection. Oh, right. Yeah. She seems sweet too. I've never asked. I suppose I could ask. We should have that. I would love to see you talk to A.J. soprano. That'd be badass. Dude. I have watched the Sopranos start to finish twice. I've done it twice. I've probably done it 15 or 20 times. I've done it so many times. I had the box set DVDs same year. He wasn't married until years ago. I had no idea. No. But back in the day I used to move many units mad, mad states away. So I had TVs the flip out in the truck and I had the DVD player. So I would drive thousands of miles watching back to back watching seasons of Sopranos. And once you've seen it a million times like you don't, you don't need. I don't need to watch it. It's a podcast. It actually wasn't like it wasn't, you know, dangerous to drive. Like you could just listen to it. Basically it's like the Godfather. Yeah, basically. Anything you've seen enough will not be distracting. It's just background whatever. But it was great sound. Question number two. Let's go. What is your best road trip memory or sorry, what was your best road trip? Driving up to Skip Barber race school and getting a speeding ticket. Doing the three day school. Awesome. And driving back and getting a speeding ticket. That's right. Tell me. Same color afterwards. I wish it was. I wish it was, but it couldn't have been been better. And driving up from New York City area to Connecticut. No, this was Laguna. Oh, Skippy. The west coast. Because I'm a west coast dude. No. And, and I'm of course I'm driving with the Skip Barber hat on. I got the Skip Barber T shirt on. I'm going 110 in my 911. Yeah. And they're like, you really, bro? Yeah. This is why when, when I finished the spring Mountain school, they hand you a piece of paper that's like you are not at racing school. Once you leave this Property, please remember that. That's hilarious. Sign your sign this waiver saying, I have told you to not be. Well, Willow had that sign forever. When you. When you ex property, it's like you're returning to normal. World55. They still don't have that. They still have that. And that. That speed Vegas place I was just at for Audi. It's important people get the fizz. Yeah. What was your best road trip? Gotta go. Gotta go. Grand Tour number one with Nicole. Yeah. Yeah. We went around the whole country. It's like 15,000 miles or something, right? Yeah, pretty. I don't remember what the first one was. The second one was like 15. Yeah, it was pretty close. But we did it all in, like, month to the first one. Second when I was gone two and a half months, which is sort of like, that's no big deal. That's why your car is such a legendary car also. Yeah, it's been every. It's now been to all 48 states. Yeah. I got to get it to three more. Alaska. So I just met a guy across the street. We start. We started down the road, but I was. They made fun of me because of. I was. My rich guy, poor guy Jim in my driveway. A guy pulled up to me who lives on my street street in a green M3 with Hawaii tags. And I'm like, what's that about? And he was like, oh, yeah, he lives in the neighborhood. But his hustle is he has a wholesale shipping account, and he just buys used cars in Hawaii, ships them back here and sells them here. And apparently the margins are, like, fabulous. Really? Yeah. Apparently it's really hard to sell secondhand sports cars in Hawaii. That makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. There's nowhere to drive them, really. Exactly. Right. But if he's got a cup on getting the car, but he can get it. I would love to. To chat him up. Well, I imagine I could have him go the other way, too. Like, why? Yeah, I could probably arrange that. My friend and I were talking about this. We were. How do we get it on? We want to. We want to go. I don't want to fly there. We want to be on the boat with it. So we want to be like in the movies in one of the cargo things, you know, like there's commercial ships that do that. They'll, like, rent you a whatever, like a bay or something. That really happens. You can cross the Atlantic. There's a great book called I think, like the Great Race, but it's two comedy writers that raced each other around the world. And the rule was they couldn't use private transportation. They couldn't buy a car. You couldn't fly. So one of them took, like, bought a berth in a shipping container and went from Long beach to like, you know, I guess China or something. Russia. And then like continued from there. Amazing. I would totally do that to Hawaii. Back in. I just finished a book like two weeks ago called 98 or 90% of everything, which is literally. It's about the shipping industry. And the author of the book, like, goes on a cargo ship for six months to see, like, what it's like for the people who do that. No shit. But like, it was very clearly possible to do it. I just want to see what it's like to go do that. I've. I've. It's probably dull as rocks, but interesting for a story. That's what I want. It's a more interesting story later. Like a train trip across the country kind of thing. Like, you do it, but you're bored out of your mind. Well, that's why Hannah and I did the short version of that. Would you do Vancouver to Jasper and back? Just the pretty part. One overnight each way in the Canadian Rockies. Get the vibe, gorgeous. Get the vibe and then you get the fuck out. Yeah, dude, roll out. Yeah. You don't. You, you don't really want to go across the Pacific Ocean on a cargo ship. You want to leave the harbor on the cargo ship and then have a chopper pick you up six hours later. Take your ass back to lax. See you there, car. We thought the same thing. What do you think it would be to Hawaii? Maybe a week. Right? It's not going to be like weeks. No, it's like a week. Yeah. Okay. So that we could do. But owning sports cars in Hawaii. Difficult, I would imagine. The roads suck, dude. Yeah, I did a movie there. Terrible place to drive. It's beautiful. And I thought about buying land and property and the break off was that where am I going to drive my car? For like six years, Lexus and Toyota were having. But there's like one main artery road and you can't really speed because that's where everybody is. Yeah. It's just not a great place. It seems idyllic and beautiful and whatever. Which it is Magna PI that sold it. Yeah. Hard get a slow old classic car. Like, that would be rad. It's just there's nowhere good to drive them. Lexus and Toyota for like five, six years kept having press launches in Hawaii. And I mean, it was obvious why they just wanted to go to Hawaii and hang out and like. Yeah. And if it's like a Sienna. Sure, like whatever. Cruise. Going to Hawaii, you know, Jefferson's. Whatever. If it's just a, you know, a regular car. But they had like the LC500 launch there. And I'm like, this is sports car. Yeah, I see that. That doesn't make sense. Now a Jeep or something would make sense to me there. Like, oh, okay, you're gonna go off roading and take it to the jet. That sounds great. Yeah, Right, right. Exactly. Well, huh. Question three. Let's go. If you had $10 million to spend on cars, but you had to do it in one day, what would you buy? Oh, first, the math doesn't need to be exact. No. First up for me is a 365 GTB for the Daytona. Okay. That gets you. Let's give it a mil. That's a mil for a Daytona. Then I'll get a Miura. Okay. I'll give you 2 mil there. That's 3. Yeah. I got 10. You got 10 to spend. Probably the CTR Yellowbird. Okay. Though one of those just sold for six, so you got one left. Even though I'm using a high auction value. I understood. I'm pacing the question. I got a mil left. Huh? You got a million. Sorry this taking so long. It's okay. It's a tough question. Oh, gosh. The last one. I'll go with a. It's weird. I'll go with a 993 Carrera S. Oh, for a million dollars, you're buying one that has never been registered and. No, no, I might have more money now. Might and die. You'll take the rest on a gift certificate. Might and die. Olive Garden forever. Free T shirts at PCA. No. What's the last one? You have 900K left. A Cobra. A Cobra. All right, that's good. Shelby Cobra. All right. Thank you, Phil Morris. Appreciate you guys. Yeah, you're absolutely welcome to hang out and do another shift in a little bit, but I want to hear his answer. All right. And then I want you to go. Actually, no, do me a favor, because I want to keep it moving. It's on out there. You'll hear. Get me Patrick Long, please. Porsche racing driver. You guys are the biggest. Thank you. This is going to be like the Running Man. Get me Sub Zero. Great reference. They just remade it. With who? Ryan Powell? No, Glenn Powell, because of course it's Glen Powell from Top Gun. Yeah, Glen Powell. He's having a moment. Okay. Just spotted with Sydney Sweeney in Texas. Oh, excuse me. They were. Well, it's important that they fake a romance for the sake of. I don't know what you hear. Your third question. 10 million. I drive cars so I. I would never collect the car. So I'm going to pivot to movie cars. I would figure out some way to buy $10 million worth of movie cars because it could never have been a better time to own a fucking movie car. Yeah. Do you see the Ghostbusters trap the other day went for $327,000. A trap. A hero trap. From 1 and 2. Sit down pat long. Anyway, and then I would keep some driver cars. Oh, wait, so a fucking. So I think. Hey, Patch. Well, welcome. Thank you. Thanks for coming. Thanks for having me, dude. I really think that there are people our age that are willing to spend real crazy amounts of money for memorabilia from 80s and 90s movies where there's practical prop effects and stuff like that. My friend just bought the Goonies house and they're doing a TV show while they're restoring it to Goonies statue for the 40th anniversary. How much was the Goonies house? I don't know. It's a beautiful house, isn't it? Yeah, it's got the insane view of a story, Oregon. Yeah, whatever. It's funny, that house was presented as like sort of a crappy house in the 80s and now I think that's probably like a $2 million plus house with an ocean view. I don't know if it was crappy. The family just didn't have the money to keep it. That was what the movie was about, right? Yeah. So it might have been a little run down. It was a little run down. Yeah. Remember the wife was like I want the house clean when they tear it down. Yeah, that was a good feel view though. It's insane. I like that. I went there on the grand tour. Yeah, it was amazing. Yeah. But I tried, you know, I tried to buy a couple different like Back to the Future and Demolition man props and like. Forget it. It was all. You can't. You can't touch. No, we ruined it. Yeah, you're welcome. I have, I do have one real Demolition man prop but not a. Not nothing worth any money. Yeah, the license plate. Oh, that's screen used. The San Angeles license plate is a screen used genuine prop. And the storyboard is genuine as well. Excellent. Yeah, yeah. I do have a couple real things. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah. And if I find more, I will buy them. But the fucking ticket machines, you've seen Demolition Man. Yeah, the thing that prints that when you swear. I got an auction for that, A real auction, like a live auction. I was ready to go in for like 4 or 5,000 because I'm an idiot. I'm an idiot. And I have a Demolition man themed bathroom. And I was like, this will be a funny laugh. They went for 16 GS and they don't like, they don't do anything. They just like, sit on the walls. Yeah, it doesn't even print things if you swear. That would be cool. Yeah, but it's the real one. But it's the real. So you get to say you can only have one real one. Yeah. Who do you want? Marco. Send me Marco. Okey doke. Send me Marco. We can go. We can transition into 80s movies with Marco. Is that what you guys are talking about outside? Well, we just, we just went to see Rad on the 20th. Oh, wait, like BMX movies? The old BMX movie is in theaters? Yeah, they redo it on the 20th of March, I think is Rad Day, if I'm not getting it wrong. But they had a documentary that they rolled out, so they, they screened it all over Southern California, probably all over the country, and then they did a, like an hour documentary on the making of the movie. Oh, cool. It was 86 that they did the original. Oh, fun. Yeah, that is, that is what I bet a RAD bike would go for a ton of money at an auction. Yeah. Hey, buddy. Marco, come on in. Spike and Zuckerman are here and they're on a tight schedule. They want to go ahead of me. How tight? Spike said. First thing he said is I want to go ahead of you. Make him wait. Make him wait. That's fine. I don't give a shit. Is the show on in there? Yeah. Do they have a little thing or do they just want to go first? Spike and Zuckerman, you will be on at 11:30 together. You need to wait 25 minutes and then you're on. I appreciate it. We're not. That's how we got to do it. First come, first serve. Hey, look, I'm good to hang with my boy Pat. That's what you're saying. Rad the best. Get your mic a little better. Jay was talking 80s memorabilia and collectibles. Yeah. What do you think of one of the bikes from Rad would go for at a, at an auction today? Like an actual one? Yeah, yeah. Screen use, five grand. You think that's all minimum? No, no, the starting there, I. I would think it was. It'd be more like 30 or 40,000. No, that's a bit much. I'd say someone paid $300,000 for one of the traps in Ghostbusters. I don't know. Ghostbusters has a pretty wider, bigger market than rad. I mean, it is bigger. I'm not surprised. That is bigger than that. They made multiple sequels to Ghostbusters, right? There's no. Just see if you can Google rad. You know, bicycle, movie, prop auction and, like, heritage auctions or. One of them is going to have one of them, right? No, those bikes are. It's 1986. They're gone. No, no, no, no, no. Them bikes aren't gone. Someone's got a screen. Someone probably put one together. Someone's got a screen. Used bike. No chance. There's a lot of classic BMX collector seen, so. Dude, there's. There. There's no chance that there aren't bikes left. Okay, well, then if we're putting this out in the world, I'm looking for a Jad, Okay? A Jad. A Jad. A Jad. I've been looking for a jad for about 25 years. We'll pay to get. Have you. You've been. Look, you've been actively. I've been actively searching for a jad, okay, for 25 years, since I got, like, adult money in 2016. Someone sold one for 17 grand. See, I told you. No, no. Cruise bike was a mongoose. I don't remember. Yeah, I think so. Now we're. Now we're getting eye rolls from the hardcores. But I'll take a Eddie Fuel of gt. I watched that movie when it came out, man. I was racing BMX very briefly until I hurt myself, and I wasn't good at it. But I watched that movie. I was like, oh, wow, they have ramps in the. In the. On the track. We didn't have those. This is cool. And, like, everyone's just doing, like, side airs. And, like, that was the only move back then. The doc was cool. They talked about building the stunt team, built the hell track. And even the pro riders didn't want to do that initial roll. And so it was. It had people on the side of the whole documentary. Talked about, like, the one guy who was doing backflips at that time was the first guy to go down it. And then all the pros started rolling. Yeah, but he didn't start at the top. He started, like, halfway up off a ladder. And he's like, okay, I can make it this far. And then I'm gonna go all the way to the top and try it again. And then everyone else saw him do it and he's like, okay, we'll make it. Yeah, that's all you need. One guy, one guy everywhere. And then, yeah, that was a pretty great thing to see it on the big screen. And you know, the documentary was good. And I remember at the first Radwood, the guy brought out like the, the Christian Holland Blazer and they did like a little flatland thing, they had a little ramp, they did all that stuff. Radwood was pretty cool. That. Yeah, it was fun. What's happening in vintage racing world, Pat? You guys, you got a ride. What are we doing? The vintage scene right now is interesting. It's all about tech. So Lord March from Goodwood put out a pretty strong letter last week telling everybody that the sustainability of vintage racing is wavering because there's so many build ups, there's so much modification of these period cars. So I'm on the advisory board for Laguna Seca and talking a lot about car week and the reunion and trying to get that, that event set up for the future. So yeah, everything is very technical right now about what you can enter. How legitimate is that car and how many mods does it have? Yeah, I mean, I think that's probably combating a couple things, right. They don't want people racing reps. Right. And they don't want Adrian Newey racing whatever it is that he's racing. That is not a Jaguar. Right. Are they trying to 8 scale from modifying vintage things too much to where they don't drive like they used to or they're cheating or like what is, what is the, what are the mods causes? I mean, I think this is a load, a loaded question and everybody has a different view on it. But essentially the Goodwill revival was really the strongest cars and the most hardcore racing and a hardcore track. And then you know you're not going to enter a multi million dollar car in that race and go up against something that might be period correct in history in an original car. But, but the guy's running it way harder. So they started actually cloning these cars. These guys had enough money to build a very, very good replica 250 GTO or whatever else. So that's part of it. But to answer your question, I think that it's availability and cost of parts and then yeah, every racer is going to push the envelope and try to make performance while they're at it. So I think there's multi prongs to why they're doing it. But I think it starts with originality in period livery. How the car raced. Raced versus a streetcar that someone's modified to be a celebration of an original car. So yeah, at Goodwood you can, you can enter various different cars at something like Ren Sport Reunion or Monterey Reunion. You have to have a, an actual car that was raced in period. Yeah. Do you think if Goodwood adopts those same rules, it will make the spectator experience worse? Yeah, I mean, the question is, will they run them as hard? No, I don't think so. I think as long as the parts are available, if you're running a period brake package or an engine in the correct displacement, I don't think it's going to make the racing any worse. I think it just has to be consistent across the board so that you don't have two different mindsets out there. Yeah, it would be kind of, I mean, you know, I don't, I don't feel bad for people that are rich enough to race a fifty million dollar car, but it would be. If you're racing against someone who's got a car that is like essentially disposable. Yeah. And your car is. There's an imbalance there, which is, which is a bummer because I think I love watching Goodwood Revival because the racing is like close and aggressive and the cars are moving. They should all race cars. It's a type of racing you don't really see because cars now are so locked down. But the only way they are feel free enough to do that is having a replica they can drive the shit out of. So like I used to play Magic the Gathering, which is something I'm incredibly proud of. Hardcore nerd. But there was a card I had called a Chaos Orb. Okay. And unlike most cards which go from your hand just to the table, right. The Chaos Orb, the point of it is you throw it at your opponent's cards and whatever it hits, it kills, which actually is awesome. And that's why it's very valuable. Valuable, but it gets damaged during use. And so it was accepted in the Magic the Gathering community that you keep the Chaos Orb in your deck, but you have to have it. But it can just be sitting here and you have a stunt card, that's just another card that you just write Chaos Orb and you play with it. So I think if you can prove you own the real thing, you should be able to have an exact clone of it made. It passes the tech and then you go race that shit and bang. Fenders and essentially the whole class or that whole event would just build us built replicas but owned by people where the real one is sitting in park for May right here. I mean let's also be clear. We're talking about replicas that are, you know, deep six figure replicas, probably seven figure replicas, but replaceable, not historically significant. Correct, correct. When there's 12 of something or 24 of something, let's you know, risk the not our homie John at Persang. Right, yeah. There you go. He said a lot of their customers have the real thing. Right. And they get an exact rep made and they park the real one in their living room and then they go beat the, out of the, out of the rep. Yeah, I'm, I support that. That's cool. Yeah, right. Yeah, I'm kind of along lines of what you're thinking. I think you could have different groups that are set circumstances is like IROC is going to be featured this year. They're bringing back a bunch of different generation Iraq cars, both domestic and the Porsche original Iraq car. And those guys are going to run hard, but they're not racing for the ultimate. It's a bit of a hybrid between an exhibition and a race. And so that run group has a specific set of rules. Those cars are all original. The drivers, the owners, everything is understood by it. And then if you go to B sedan and everybody in that class says hey, we want to run hard and we want to lay fenders into them, then you know, you can have a second car as you said. So we'll, we'll see where it all shakes out. Speaking of hybrids, you try the GTS yet? I haven't, I'm, I'm low on the, I'm low on the list really. All you guys get the cars before you have. You've been downgraded from diamond stat diamond medallion at Porsche, you're back to down to silver. Very much so. I, I, most of my time is, is with the older stuff. I'm, I've been head down on a few builds there and Marco's helped me along the way. Marco's always a voice of reason for me because he's a purist. So I'll send him a picture. I'll be like, what do you think? Can I like run a race mark steering wheel on a 66? Absolutely not. And then I get a big bollocking from you and a history lesson. But no, I heard you guys liked the car, the gts. We did, yeah. I mean he didn't drive. We get one here in a couple of weeks. I liked it a lot. I thought it was great. Yeah, it's really fun. It fixes a lot of the. The. Not there aren't a lot, but there's the what the drawbacks of that 3 liter twin turbo Carrera motor like, are fixed with the hybrid. It just does. It's awesome. It's really, really neat. It's fast. Really fast. I listened to a podcast. Well, I have listened to it because it's in German and I. I get. Get enough German to. To follow the humor. But Jorg Bergmeister was on and he's very hard on the development team. I think we've talked about here before. And so everything that's coming across is pretty damn good as far as balance setup. I mean, we know they're big cars. We know that this is the present, not the past. But yeah, I'm excited to get. Get one. Well, I mean, on the end, Jorg is. He's. He's in a German way. He's very funny. And also he's such a fabulous driver that. You know what I mean? He's like dry as shit, but he's funny and he's such a good driver that you. If you try to critique the car at all, he just goes, get in the car. And he takes you out of the track and he can literally do anything. You know, I ran a lap at the fastest pace that I could do while talking. Right. Which obviously is nowhere near what you and Jorg can do, but good enough for camera. And then I went for a ride with him and I'm talking about the canyon. That's where I got this from because he was like, just kidding, but everyone. And he's like hockey stopping the car. Yeah. Which is a very different. You know, when he talks about, oh yeah, there's is less dive under braking and he's talking about that like while doing a hockey stop, you know, and his racetrack is 10 meters wider than my racetrack. Also, he was driving a stick car and like hammering the shift lever which. That car. I should have taken a photo of the VIN D N B. But yeah, I mean, it's funny when no matter what anyone thinks about the car, he could probably prove them wrong by driving it. And you probably could too. Well, I think we debate. I listen to people talk about what spring package you run on your car, what dampers you like or what tire you like, depending on who the driver is. Especially on a racetrack, you will drive the same car and it will be in another planet based on how you load that front spring, how much trail brake you carry and what your overall speed is or how you're attacking the brake pedal. So one person's going to say, oh, that car's terrible in ABS because there's straight emergency stopping on the initial hit of the brake pedal and that someone else is rolling it into it like they're driving on the street. You're going to feel two different cars and it's hard to build a car that will still drive pretty well even if you're driving it, quote, wrong. You know, it should still drive like, not terrible. Because most people. People are just regular drivers. Yeah, yeah. I mean, now we talk about aerobalance, it's the same thing. If you put the splitter down, it's going to work. If you're on throttle, it's going to work a lot less. And so depending on driving style, that's always. That's always the fun debate to listen to. Yeah, I know you. You texted me the other day and you were like, air Water, let's go. So what's happening with Air Water? Let's. What's the status? April 26th, Orange County, California. We're back. We're gross growing it. The idea here is just a big Porsche gathering everything, all generations, anything to do with Porsche. We've got a big exhibitor list. Aftermarket restoration artisan. There was an idea in. In sort of after 10 years of doing Luftakult, people wanted to come and partake and show that what they work on during the week, whether they run a shop or they're producing product. And so we've opened that up. We feel like the venue allows for it. It's going to be in one hall. We have. It's sold out now. It's 41 vendors. Yeah. All indoors. Lots of car displays in and out. Are you putting my car inside? It's a hybrid spot. It's covered. We're doing a mid engine. I don't care. We're doing a mid engine celebration. So your car is going to be part of the story of new and old. I think a lot of what we talk about with air and water is air cooled and water cooled. So taking equals from different decades of Porsche's past and lining them up and letting them. People sort of understand how the size of a modern car is compared to a vintage car or any of the technology. But a lot of celebrations are on race cars. I got a car coming. Yeah. Are you bringing the cup car 960 bought last year at Air Water, sending it this year. To display. Does it start up and drive? Have you ever decides pulling in and out of the garage As a single parent with two kids, life is complicated. So no, I haven't had a chance to take it out yet but. But that was on the short list. Okay. That's an epic car. I mean you stole that in my opinion. I did. The price on that car was insane. It was the last lot of the whole auction and I waited for it. And that was a Manti car. Timo Bernhardt. No, no, no. That was a team. Timo drove it. But it wasn't. It was Jurgen Alsen. Oh, Alton. Yeah. Another. Another legendary third place in the championship that year. Yeah, that's a. That's a great car. 906 cup cars are fun to drive. They're still very analog. I mean there's not a lot of tech in those cups car. So it's very close to a 9,6 GT3 car. But no, we'll have some great race car displays as well. I'm excited. We've got a Formula One car. The tag McLaren MP4 to be. I think it was this 85. A Prost car. Probably shouldn't be announcing that but that will be one of our big focal points. Do some merchandising around it. Tell the story of Porsche in Formula 1 with McLaren in a great turbo era. Low small displacement, Hans Metzger built engine. So just allowing the new audiences to be educated on the past but also plenty of paint to sample, plenty of modern stuff. Working with Will from ptsrs, he's putting together a pretty cool collection of cars both new and old. So yeah, just lots of different things like that. Did I read that you guys are having like ride alongs with the new stuff? Yeah, Porsche coming out, bringing some new product. Maybe I'll get to drive a GTS in my own show. Show. So we're going to set up a track. They're going to set up a track. That. That's a facility. Yeah, they did that with the Panamera. When they were releasing the Panamera at Ren Sport they had ride alongs and drive drive time. They should do it with any of the cars with hydraulic suspension. I mean if they're. I, I don't know if they're just doing 911s but like if I was them I'd bring a Taycan GT and show. You need that wave road though. The wave like that's the best visual indication of the, the where it's undulating ramps but they're opposite, you know what I mean? Oh, yeah. Where the car goes like this. Yeah. But stays straight. Hydraulic suspension. It stays perfectly level. It's. And then you pat. You could chase them on a BMX bike. You could just do the rhythm section. Yeah. Pump track. Exactly. Pump track. Yeah, you should. There should be an ego check thing where basically they get to drive a GT3RS and you roast them in a box. A bass boxer. Well, you know, that's like. It's of the PR releases where you have the pro driver ahead of you in a lesser car. And you're like, I'm going to take him down. That is literally Jorg and me in Spain at the GT3 launch. He's in like a. He was in like an old one and I was in the new, and I was in the new one. And, you know, obviously I can't fucking catch it. I've never thought I'll catch the pro. And I've also just like, I lock away the part of me that feels bad that I can't catch the Pro. Cause I'm in the faster, more powerful car. But, like, the skill difference is thousands of points. I don't even know how we measure or fucking you. At the GT4RS launch at Willow Springs three years ago, what did they have us at? You were in a turbo. Okay. Which, I mean, too bad, but that's still a shitload of car. But an older turbo. It was a991 Turbo. So it was like. I mean, you still had a lot of car, but I wasn't catching you. For people listening, Patrick is smiling very subtly. He's like, that's right. You guys can't catch me. Well, I think they lay that out. They pay those guys to drive, and you guys don't get paid to drive. I mean, that's the delineation, right? This is not a thing I'm upset about. It's just the way. Yeah, but I mean, we're talking about how do we rank it, right? Yeah. Well, I mean, one gets a paycheck and one pays to. I got. Dude, I. They. They. When they timed us at the blackwing launch in Atlanta. And I got. I got us pretty close to. Oh, Jesus, what's his fucking name? Who drives for. Drives for Cadillac. Oh, Jordan. Jordan Taylor. I got. I got 1.5 seconds. Seconds off of Jordan Taylor's time after 12 laps. That's really good. And his data, we were identical in the slow hairpins and the super high risk areas where you have to keep your foot on the floorboard. I was not able to do it. Fourth gear, full throttle over blind crest, negative G, like, nah, bro, no thanks. Not good. And in your defense, it's kind of like going to the local K1 indoor cart track. Like the kids that work there know every single inch. So Jordan's been going around that thing as we do for days leading up, and you get 12 laps. That's pretty solid. I was, I was happy and Jordan gave me the little bit, but like, I was like, all right, work day, you know, work day done. Yeah, but that dude is where the difference in the line was so big. Yeah, it's usually the minimum speed in high speed corners is what separates, especially in downforce, like prototypes or single seat. That's where you earn your pay is minimum speed. Just keeping that speed up, keeping your foot down where other, where mere mortals breaks just slow you down. Speaking of high speed, and I'm sure you guys have talked about it recently, but where are you at on the Willow Springs debate? Because I know there's a lot in the media right now and I think there's a very positive outcome potential with what's going on. And there's a lot of fear and there's certainly tenants and people that are getting evicted or being asked to leave. But the bottom line is that place needs a future. It's going to be a racetrack. There are many racetracks there. And the fear and the commentary that it's going to be a private, exclusive club and all these years there's no. As long as it's not exclusionary, I think people will be okay. We know for a fact we're, we're, we're consulting with them. And in fact, the ownership is doing an exclusive with us in, in a couple weeks where our audience will be allowed to ask them questions, assuming they aren't straight up lying to us, which I don't have any reason to believe that they are, assuming they're not lying to us. The experience that everybody will have at the track will be vastly better than what they have now. And the elements of it that may become private will not diminish the experience that the public will have there. And in fact, I would just say that without giving away too much, a nice fraction of the whole will be much better than the whole of something that's worse. Jay, what's up? Jay, what's up? Got a guy with a fancy booze delivery. Oh, Andy. Oh, hello. How do you do? Here you go. What's going on? Fancy booze delivery, eh? Okay. A box of something. Well, Zach can handle that. Yeah, I mean, when I talk to other racetrack promoters who have membership. The debate is always how do you split the track between race teams, enthusiasts and members. Sure. But usually they're dealing with one or two pieces of tarmac. We've got space at Wills Springs. Sam, as you I'm sure you've talked to, he's a car guy. Like he's out in LA most the time because he's got a Porsche that's being built or delivered. So yeah, his cars are here. Oh, awesome. He's a customer. Yeah. Great guy. So it's not like this is a private equity group that cares nothing about cars and is going to build an Amazon shipping container, you know, and we're, we're. One of the things that I'm doing with them is making sure that the public is represented. Cool there. Oh, that's good news. Yeah. So it's, it's, I think it's gonna be awesome. And I don't know if they're gonna show when they come, when they come on the show. I don't know if they're gonna have visual aids to show which I've seen and they look incredible or if they won't be ready to show that stuff yet. It's gonna be amazing. La, Forget la. I mean even all the way down to San Diego we don't have a world class motorsports facility. Like isn't that crazy? Like ridiculous. This city of all cities. Min. Now it should be. You should have something like, you're telling me that I can go. Well it was world class in the 50s. You know everything. Then you're telling me that there's better world class racing in the New York area than in California. Like that's fucking nuts. Not to shit on New York, but like that is crazy. And there's some great stories and books about Southern California's racetracks of. The whole city was full of racetracks. The Beverly Hills Speedway, the Santa Monica. Remember the Santa Monica Grand. I mean no one remembers we had a board track in Playa Del Rey. I think the only two board tracks was like Indy and, and Playa Del Rey. I mean it was like one of the two in the country. There's a documentary that a guy made about the history of racing in la. And if, if you want to learn a ton about this in the most boring possible, Barely able to make it through slow ass delivery. It's hard to watch but you learn a lot about all the racetracks that used to be in this city. Paramount Ranch was the first place Carroll Shelby ever raced a car. There's a couple little bits of that that are still there. Yeah, yeah. Legion. Ascot. Ascot in Gardena, which. That's where I grew up going to the races. But yeah, so, so many. I hope that they use the dirt oval at Willow. We definitely need to get some open wheel dirt stuff that's not just in Ventura. You know, we need to go a little faster and get wings on the roof because there's nothing like sprint racing. The southern gallery. Yeah. The roundy rounds are fun. The cross carts, those little guys, they're rad. Yeah. Little motorcycle engines. Oh, yeah. They kick ass. And the oval at Willow Springs is legit. It's got good banking. It's a good size. The dirt or the. Or the dirt. Because I didn't. They have a paved oval, too, I think I remember watching legends cars there. Yeah. That was fun. Yeah, it's tight, but it's a good one. We're driving driving legends cars next weekend. I'm so excited. Nice. Zach and I are going to that 1010. I'll see you there. You're coming? Yes. What? Yeah. Yes. Marcus and Graham invited us. They are the best. And Graham is the legends guy. He runs the legend series. Those things are super affordable. I mean, if you want to go racing. 500 bucks. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, a season is like 30 grand. Yeah. You can also just buy one. And dude, Ezra Dyer bought one to race in hill climbs on the east coast, which is Jean. Genius move. I've driven them on that track at will. Springs in the dirt. Just like hand grooved the radial tire and sent it. But a legends in the dirt would be a good time. But I really want to try one on a road course. You're gonna drive it on the new facility? He said I could. Nice. Yeah, he said I could. Yeah. He also said I could drive something else. Very special. Nice. They're doing some cool stuff. We got a pro am on Friday night. Oh, yeah? Are you racing? Yeah. What are you driving? I'm sure I'll get destroyed. I don't know what we're driving. It's a street car. But they're gonna be destroyed. Who's faster than you? Well, there's some legit drivers I think you've got. Boris said you've got. So you mean pro. Other pros. Gordon's gonna be doing good drivers. And they know. They know the facility, so Rick Hendrick is very involved. They know they're a lot of guys that are gonna beat like Jeff. I appreciate his humility. He's got humility. I mean, if you don't know Boris or Jeff Gordon is. Look him up. Forest. What a g that guy. He's been around for how many, I mean how many people truly, truly crossed out of gentleman driver? They do not lose a lot of people from gentleman driver to pro. He was one of the first hired guns in nascar. He was one of the first guys that was doing road courses in nascar. They're like, yeah, come on over. And he was beating him up. A beast. But even his story like of Tom Milner driving in the 90s, you know, in IMSA cars, I mean, listen to his dinner with racers. Not to pump another. Not to pump another. That's a good show. That's a good show. Boris's dinner with racers is super good. And Boris was an old motocross guy. He had a dealership on the east coast. And dude, he just, he's a hard nose racer like in anything he's ever driven. I mean American who won Nurburgring 24 hours in a factory with BMW. Like he's legit. Can. Are you hanging out for a while? Yeah, I got time. Okay. I send my kids away. All right, cool. Can you. It's 11:30. Can you tag team Spike and Paul? Yeah, yeah, I'll let them know. Stick around until they get back. Okay. I'll see you. Are you. We'll. We'll connect for the 26th. I'm stoked to have your car back out. Yeah. I will bring Zach. I will bring my car. I. It's. This show is going to be like enormous. Right? It's big. Last year we had 10,000 people, 1100 cars. Broad Arrow's got a live auction going on. It's a party. Okay. It's indoor, outdoor. Yeah. Air, hyphen, water dot com. Get. Get it all hooked up. Tickets available, whatever. Yep. Car entries. We have two different types of cars. Car entrance. We've got like feature cars who show up like yourself. You're going to come the night before. It's going to be pre placed but we also have added a second section where you can come a little later, leave a little earlier. Oh. And it's more of a in feature parking area but. Oh like. Like a cars and coffee. That's happening during the little bit more. Yeah. So we're still working through some of those details, but excited. Awesome. Thanks. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. Yeah. These guys are going to be fired up. I know these guys are going to be ready to go. Hey boys. I said you guys had to wait. So. Sorry for making Mike or Paul. You guys, you guys. Thanks, Pat Long. These two. These two. Thank you. Thank you, Pat. We'll see you at Air Water. Air water on April 26th. Everybody. Everybody go. Oh, wow. So you got a please don't bang on the table sign. That's a big podcasting problem. It is a big. I thought I was the only one dealing. Do you have a sign? No. I need a sign. We'll get you one. You have an extra sign? $14 or something? No, we just had it. I had made some money. Wow, that's really nice. How are you feeling? I feel terrific now. I was on the tail end of it yesterday, being ill. Yeah, he had the red raccoony eyes that you had when you gave. Almost gave me. Covid. Yeah. I'm sorry. But you're here now. I feel bad, and actually, you know, because you. Because you canceled, I ended up having Hannah come do the show with me. And it crushed the numbers, the comments. Everybody loved her. Why don't you just have her on everybody every week? I, I. That last time you. Last time you gave me advice about the show, it was, they're here for you. Stop having guests. And actually, it was genius. It was actually totally right, 100% accurate, and. And it relieved a lot of pressure. I should take that advice myself. Yeah, your core. You keep it to the core. That's what they're here for. I thought I was getting out of it. No, no, they're here for. No, what we're saying is, on our show, we should stop having guests, and it should just be us. People like to visit with us every week, and they say that every once in a while. For most of the thousand episodes of this show, probably 750 of them every week, it was a guest feature. Guest feature, guest feature, guest feature. Some are good, some are bad, but it really drove the numbers. And Spike told me, I don't know, 2017 or 2018, they're here for you. Do the show without guests. And the number numbers went consistently. Yes, we do. It's the simplest idea. The simplest. Sometimes he knows something. Yeah, well, it's just the entertainment world. Yeah. The rest of the world. I don't get subtracted from the sum of human knowledge. No, I haven't. I haven't seen you in person since you helped me with my little problem over there at the other place getting. And it was. It was so satisfying of an experience to get this deadbeat's car repossessed. I said, amazing. I said, let me see this guy's picture. I took one look at the guy. And the smile was. He had the million watt con man smile. This guy said, I go, paul. I go, paul, I got a real problem. This guy owes me like all this money. Goes, send me his name. And he looks up his LinkedIn and he sends me back a picture and he goes, is this the guy? I go, yeah. He goes, you're never getting. He said, really? And then I did a little more and he had 20 unpaid judges. The guy was such a money. And then the conversation quickly went to, if he's not paying you, he's probably not paying the note on that car. He said, let's just give, let's just give, give Porsche a call and see what they think about this. And they're like, will a check be fine? We'll be there Tuesday. Really paid the fucking debt and took the car before. It was great. He was replay. He was a well paid repo man. It was fabulous. And Porsche, who did you call it? Porsche. That jumped general information line. And within 30 seconds I was up to a fucking specialist that had already been identified to find this car. I wonder how money for the car. Oh, yeah, the dude hadn't paid in like a year. Wow. How did you learn that detective skill? It's personal injury, so you have to get a nose. A nose for who's got money and who doesn't. Who am I gonna. Who's gonna. Who am I gonna collect from? Zach, it's very simple. Very simple. Who's got the cash? Who's got the cash? That is the most important because isn't like part of avoiding responsibility is creating this web of shit that has no assets, right? And then it's my job to just go straight to, I'm the mouse, where's the cheese? I gotta get that cheese. And so it was very simple. So I was working on this deal for something that I made years ago and trying to get rights for, from following the rights for this show that went from Fox to it ended up at Disney. And they said, even if they gave me a quit claim deal, which is I'm gonna be responsible for all of it. He goes, there'll be some lawyer out there that'll go, no, we're fucking suing Disney. Disney has more money than Spike Ferriston. Disney will get sued. No deal. And they killed the whole thing. That's right. At least today it's killed. You know, there's pigs and dogs that hunt truffles. And I am that creature when it comes to money. I'm gonna find the money under the ground. And it really is that way. Right. You're sniffing out where the bag of money is and then the connective tissue, you'll just find it. And you get really good at knowing who's gonna have it and who is it and the general directions. And I was able to help and in Thanks. I get this little gift in the mail. I I. What the hell is this? And I open it up and it's a coffee mug with the picture of the dead peak. I thought you might like to have it as a trophy. That's great. It really is. It really made my day. You should use it. It's at. It's on the podcasting desk. Why don't you put some coffee in that next show. It. It's, it's not a high quality item, but it is funny. It is fun. It's got a little bit of lead in it is if you like a hobo tin mug. He's in the entertainment business. Oh, he's a producer. Well, no, it says he went to like Harvard Business School and he looks it up and it's like he took a night class. Yeah. Harvard resita extension. Yes. Yeah. Oh my God. So what's. What's happening in Spike's car radio? Car land. I just said, by the way, our. Do you know Teddy Baldessar? Have you met him? I know. I heard about this. The watch guy. The watch guy. He had Sheffield. He had Sheffield and he had my watch notice was there specifically my. My notice watch as the top micro brand picks from the. That's right. There was that. Now where is that? There was some Washington kind of watch. Yeah. It's pop up convention district time. District time. Right. And Sheffield micro brand. Yeah. Sheffield had a presence there. Yeah. Jay was saying he wants to, you know, bring all the watches out and finally kind of enter the. The little formally enter the watch world. And it's been, it's been huge for. Super excited about watches you're wearing. Well, this isn't, this isn't one of those. Whoops. However, Zuckerberg, this is the Siffert Autavia that they made a hundred of. It was a special edition Tag Heuer that was made for the Tag Heuer blog caliber 11 out of Australia. But I so love the Siffert designs and colors. I am. And I guess I'll announce it here. I'm an. I'm not. It's not a Siffert exactly, but it's inspired by the original Siffert Octavia. Cool. For sure. Sheffield. And it's going to be Our first. One of. Our first, I think, Swiss movement, Chronos. Oh, nice. Which is going to be really cool. And I finalized the designs just yesterday with Jay, who's really a genius. He's going to be a 7750. What movement is it? That's not all I'm going to say. There's. That. There's just one last decision to be made with the movement, and I can't tell you. Movements are hard. Yeah. LJP is only selling us a certain number of movements this year, and that is limiting how many watches that we can actually sell. We only get 200 movements for the year. They can't be enough. You can. You can charge more. Scarcity. We're, you know, we're. We're gonna finish this run of this watch, and then we're gonna design a new watch. Yeah. We've done five colors. We're gonna. It's like. Isn't it like speccing a car? Like, on this watch, I really got. I went down the wormhole and it was really. If. If Jay Turkbus wasn't there, I would have been. It's like specking a car. I would have been like this head and hands for a week ago. I don't know. But that shade and this finish and. You know what I mean, it can really. If they catch you in the wrong moment, an obsessive moment, you're dead. Yeah. What's the book? So I. I had written, you know, when you were gonna come do a solo show, I had written a whole bunch of questions. Just. Oh, yeah. And I realized I have. I have them ready. I. I like it. And our audience, I don't think, although they're familiar with you, they've not. They don't have direct Zuckerman experience. I've been on the show. Don't you remember what you did to me? You smoked me out secondhand. It was many years ago. Yes. And I. Yeah, I couldn't stop laughing. I told a story about a lady that got attacked by a cat, and her face. I couldn't stop laughing. Oh, we've done a lot of radio, but I just remembered about the lady with the cat. Yeah. Okay. Okay, go ahead. I just want to know, do you have a. You know, your. Your collection is. It's heavy. Porsche, BMW. But there's some other oddballs in there. Different stuff. What. What is the Zuckerman philosophy of. Of car collecting? Impulsive. Okay, cool. Ill considered. That's. That's impulsive and Ill considered. Yeah. I mean, you just bought a car that. That's exactly that theory. What did you just impulsively buy? You didn't. Impulsively. No. There's a. There's a. There's one two days ago. He's like, we're going halves. And I go, I'm. I out. I'm not doing this. You may buy half of my half. Tell them what you bought. A 1991944 S2. Why'd you buy that? I don't know. Impulsive because someone offered it to him in the right moment and he was just like, is there something particular about this example? He said, two days ago, you're way too far down. This one just happened. This just happened. So the Hungarian. You've heard of the Hungarian? I've heard of the Hungarian. So the Hungarian comes by and he knows. He's like a drug dealer. He's like, I've got the new. You know, I've got this new batch. You really need to try it. But he called me up and he said, you want an i44? I said, absolutely not. There's no way in hell. He goes, have you ever driven one? I said, actually, I haven't. Yeah. I never have. Conventional wisdom. Slow, stupid. And he comes over with this car. It's a Euro edition and it's an S2. So it's got about 210 or 20 horsepower. But I got in this thing and it is the BRZ of its day. Oh, it absolutely is. That's 100% accurate. It's the BRZ of the day. And it's low. In fact, it's almost like a BRZ of today. The numbers are pretty similar to today's brz. Absolutely. So we went driving it around and this one was in surprisingly good condition and at the price point, which is minimal. Yeah. If I was to split it in half, it would be very minimal. Which you did you. With the Hungarian. Yes. Which is. This is a very rare plans. Like. What do we call this outside the family? It is. He went, oh, there's plan Js. There's plan. I don't know what you're going to call this. There's a Plan J too. I didn't know there was a plan. Yeah, we've. There. We've proposed a plan. A Plan J. Have we ever executed on Plan J? We haven't yet. Not. We've talked, we've discussed. But Jerry's tough because he's on the other side. So it's Plan H. Okay. Plan Hungarian. And. And you don't want to mess with the Hungarian. But what's great about plan H is not, you know, it could be easy. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. We could. Yeah. Yeah. So. But the Hungarian has got plan H over here. It's great. Yeah. Very impulsive. We're so. But the hunger. The Hungarian is a mechanic. Okay. So he can. He's also many other things. He's a fixer and he's muscle. So his half of the plan. Yeah. Okay. This is a mov. This is a Jason Statham. Here's the great thing. Like this. He is an absolute seller of cars, which means we'll have this car for a few months. I'll drive it to three times. I'm going to drive it because I know that's about as far as that one's going to go. That's it. We talked about this. Me and Spike talk about how many weeks, months, or years of interesting is this car. Yeah, that's a really interesting metric. This is a three drive car. That sounds right. 100% right. But at that price point, it's okay. Yeah. And I'm going to be in and out, out of it. Okay. So you think you'll make money on it? No, I won't lose money. It's charcoal. Okay. It's got a plaid interior. Okay. Oh, it's really. Plaid's nice. Plaid's nice. It's clean. It's got no. It's got no damage to it. It's got 20,000 miles. Oh, that's very low for. Very low for one of these things. What is that? What else does the Hungarian have? What does he drive on any given day? Usually it's like an M6 with 10,000 horsepower. He's done something. He's done something to it. He's like, we. We. He says, get in the car and I drive. And he liquefies a set of tires on Olympic Boulevard. I don't understand. So he's a BMW guy. He loves BMWs. He loves everything. He loves anything he can put. And he loves anything he put an LS6 in. Okay. Okay. So he's one of those guys, Right. So he can make. He can make Frankenstein side cars. But I think. I think you've described this car accurately. It's really interesting. For about three drives, right? It's three. They're nice things, but like a front engine, rear drive experience is available from so many places in a way that a 911 experience isn't. And to pay Porsche prices and maintenance and repair and service for something that's not really their forte. Yeah, yeah. So. And it's slow to get into. And I'm past the low car. H. I am not, you know, I'm not a low car getter out of anymore. Yeah, yeah. And this thing's very close to the ground. If you lifted it and turned it into a Safari 944, then it would. Now you talk even slower, though. Can I ask, you said you're impulsive, but I feel like when I, when I see your post, I've talked to you, all of your cars seem very specifically chosen. So have you slipped into impulsivity or is that just like the way I see the lens? Most of. Okay. There's always been impulsive things. You don't see them, they don't hang around to long. Right. Like the. What was that? The Cadillac Coupe deville that I just had a box to reconnect to my dad for a week or two and then I passed that on. And then. So there are some things they don't necessarily make it. Generally, if there is a common denominator, it's a very good example. Maybe they're nice. Nice version. Nice versions of it. I like to buy. The nice version is the common denominator and something that's fun to drive. It's got to be fun to drive. And the 944 will be fun for those three times. Very, very BRZ is fun. But Zach, here's the impulsivity. Okay. And I was just at Zuckerman's office. When was that? Yesterday? Yeah. He has a steady flow of salesmen either calling him or, or there was a watch guy came in with a roll and they're like, look at this. And his impulsivity is. He just buys it like that. So that's the impulsive. It's, it's. They're great cars, but he's getting pitched a lot. You're not going out and finding them. No, no, no, no. Here's a really good thing you'll like if you become known as the guy who buys the really good stuff. Yes. The people are going to find out and they're going to come to you. I don't have to go. I don't have to be scouring the web anymore. No. In fact, when we post, Jerry said the same shit. Yeah. Stuff just shows up. Well, no, that's Sam. Sam will call with pitches all the time and go, I found this, I found that. Or in reverse, we saw this. Sam go, look at that. Yeah. But Zuckerman is like we've talked about on the show, like the salesmen in America and around the world. Wednesday have a meeting, and then Thursday they call Zuckerman because they know Jerry and Zuckerman buy cars. Thursdays, for some reason. Thursday, you close. Friday. It really is funny. The psychology of the week. So you're ready to make an inspirational day Thursday. Monday is a day I'm going. Going bankrupt. Thursday's a day I'm hitting it big. Because you truffled out. Yeah, yeah. This is true. And remember when I said you were going to. You wanted to pitch Jerry coming on your show? You were right. What did I say? What day? You said you sent him the email on a Wednesday. You said by Wednesday, he's bored of whatever he's started doing that week, and his mind begins to open up to other possibilities. Yeah. And it was all. By the way. That's all was just my guess of his psychology. But I was like, if I'm him Wednesday, I'm in a pretty good mood because Thursday I'm thinking about I have to leave Friday to do standup, and I'm a little anxious, so that's probably the day to grab Sweet Sweetie, which is about. It's always about, like, you know, and in entertainment, too, the approach. Yeah. The person, the date and the time is the most important thing when you're trying to make a deal like that. It was an incredibly good piece of advice that was successful. Wow, look at that. I'm two for two with you. And Jerry was awesome. He really went above and beyond. He was very excited. He had a series of cars brought into a certain section of the hangar that he thought we would specifically appreciate. Oh, yeah, that's true. Where he did the show, which was very nice. And that's the porn hanger you were in. Oh, you were in hangar nine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the porn. And he only crushed my soul three or four times. That's it. He likes it in 90 minutes. He does that on all shows. If you want to watch him do it, he recently did it maybe seven months ago on Revolution Eisen's show, where he just. As he's sitting down, he goes, what is this? Why am I so low in Europe? What am I doing here? He does it on our show all the time. You and your stupid law firm. You and your stupid law firm. He said that to him, right? And then I'm on Adam Carolla's show, and he goes. He goes, I gotta ask you, why did Jerry say, I'm not coming to look at your stupid car? And I go, it's all a bit. He Makes fun of his stupid law firm. He's making fun of my stupid, stupid set. Yeah. It was all just having fun. He loves everybody. That's a stupid question. Did you get one of those? No. But he did do a couple of the. I would ask myself, right. And I was like, ah. He thinks. My question is. He told me we would present something as we're like, is it like. Is it like this? Are we understanding correctly? And he goes, no. Oh, the dry note. Yeah. I had coffee with him last week. Yeah. And he. He said, you know, I really enjoyed the interview with Matt and Zach. He said that completely without us even talking about it. He really surprised me, how well of an interviewer he was and how far he's come with that show. Really nice compliment. Yeah. Really genuinely. It was. I'll write it down later. No, it was really fun. It's just like, that's pretty high pressure stuff if you're just like me. Oh, yeah. That's really. These guys are. These guys are like, crush people for a living, I would say. They think of them, like, as entertainment whales, but they're killer whales. They're not the big, floaty, fatty whales. They're big killer whales, and they're very difficult to wrestle with. And Jerry's, you know, one of the best. If you listen to him on Howard Stern, you see two killer whales face each other. It's really something. You can, you know, you can feel it. So for. For nine. Hell of a get. Yeah. Super high pressure. Super high pressure. He did it. We did it. Yeah, we did it. Maybe one day someone just called me and said they were going to come by. You're going to have a special cameo guest. It's not Jerry. It's someone else. Okay. I sent the address a moment ago. Oh, all right. Some car stuff going on. I said, there is. We've got. We've got this thing. We're doing sort of lightning round. Three questions for every. Every guest, and then we can rotate you guys out. I know you had to go somewhere. Spike, question, question number one. We started doing this show at the beginning of 2012. What were you guys doing in the beginning of 2012? As best jeez can remember. Oh, wow. Well, I was prepping car matchmaker. Right. Which is right about where you and I first met. We met at the end of 2013. Right, right. Yeah. Before on the porch, I guess. Yeah. But, you know, as any TV person will tell you, these shows have like a two or three year window of preparation, which is insane. It takes so long. Yeah. Well, what about you, Paul? I think that was about the time I bought the Tangerine RS from you, maybe. Yeah, I think it was. It was right about that time. And that was your. That was not your first dive into. That would have been 2009. Oh, really? That's when I moved to Brentwood. Wait, how long have you guys known each other? Since 22,002. Yeah, 2001. Yeah. I don't know. In 12, I was. I was just getting on the real buy. I think at that point, I had my first hangar off of Massachusetts. Okay, so not far. Yeah. And I think in that place held about six cars. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, I remember that place. The Dave Altemus place. And I got that place shout out to Dave because I broke down on the interchange between the 10 west and the 405 north, and one of those little tow guys, the freeway tow guys, that just get you off and leave you. And they bought me right there into that little neighborhood, and he said, I have to leave you here. I said, you want 100 bucks? He goes, I can't. It's 200. I mean, just take me to the shop. The shop. The shop's only another, like, five blocks. He's like, I can't. So he left me right there where there was a sign that said Altamus Realty. And so when I'm waiting for AAA to come, I call the number and I go, this looks like a great place for storing cars. In fact, we saw cars in the other half. Dave Altamus and Stanley Bauer. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Rip. So. And you said, can you open the door right now? It just pretty much worked that way. We drove right over and we made a deal, and there it happened. So it was fortuitous. When do you want to move in? Can you help me push? Yeah, exactly. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Question number two, Zach. What is your best road trip that you've ever taken or memory from? Road trip? You want to go with me? No, go ahead. You go. In 1994, I put a Kia to. In a 1985 Dodge Ram Charger. You know what that is? Yeah, yeah. And I drove from here to Costa Rica. That was Dodge's Bronco, basically. Yeah, yeah. So here to Costa Rica. Yeah. Oh, dude, that was a drive. That was. That was a road trip. That was. That took six months. Oh, I just. What year? 94. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Maps. That's maps. Yeah, that. That was maps. That was actual maps. And folding it the right way and taping it onto the steering wheel. Center. Center. Oh, Absolutely, absolutely. Okay, Spike, that's a good one. Did you have to wait real quick? Did you have to bribe anybody on the way down? Did you robbed on the way down any of that? Or was it safer time? See, the cops they had, could sniff out who had the money. We were in it. We were in a different time time. This is pre Internet age. Yeah. So then you would cross borders and you would, you would have to get stamps. You know, there'd be like 10 guys in a room in the jungle and they would approve your car coming in and you had to go to each guy and get a stamp. And their idea of shaking you down 3, 600 miles for the record. Yeah, their idea of shaking you down was $2. And you wouldn't like, you know, it would take three hours. So you'll be like, just let me use $20 now and get on the road. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. So it was, it was, there was a bite, but it was a really charming yesteryear bite. That's we our co star. Well, Tom almost got arrested in Thailand and it was a long to do and after an hour they like did the math and they're like, you're fine. We'll be this many bots. And we did the math. It was 30 bucks. That's not bad. Yeah. Okay. Spike. Hmm. There have been many. I've driven across Cuba, I've driven across Guatemala in a Jimmy. I drove through Vietnam on a motorcycle. I think, you know, there's some great rum and cigarette fueled trips, all three of those that were just amazing. But the one that I think about the most is a drive. My friend called me up, he was going to school in Colorado and he said, could you help me drive back and back to, to Boston in my Subaru Crosstrek? And we drove from Colorado straight through back home. And I remember he fell asleep in Nebraska. And I'm just driving across Nebraska. It's just nothing, you know, just giant dog sized eagles eating deer, just like looking around like a Coen Brothers movie going, fuck, they could perish, desolate. And like in the middle of it I was struck with this realization that nobody is gonna save my life. Here I was in college and I really was unfocused. And it was the first time where I felt the weight of responsibility of my life. And I wasn't, you know, and I stopped. It was a very rebellious kid against my parents, but it all just evaporated and I went, shit, I've gotta go and really focus on school and do something with my life. Cause if I don't. I'm fucked. Oh, wow. And it completely changed the direction of my life. We got a Carlos Castaneda. Wow. Carlos Castaneda. Very good. Zuckerman. But it did. And, you know, maybe that's why I love Subaru Crosstreks right now. It was a red. It was a red. No, it was an outback, actually. These questions aren't really for me, but just in that spirit, like, because, you know, I was expecting people to talk about a road and a car, and yours is more about the significance of the drive. When I was in college, I was very uncomfortable being alone, and I would surround myself with people that turned out to be toxic and. Or wanted things other than my company. Because I was so uncomfortable being alone, I'd go hang out with anybody. And so I drove. I spent a summer, I drove from New York out to the Utah desert, and I had a hotel room in the desert, but I stayed there and kind of wandered about teaching myself how to be alone for three hours. And I actually did. And now I'm like, okay. Being alone because of. Yeah, yeah. Similar kind of vibe. Yeah. All right, Zach, number three. That was great. Spike, last one might be hard or easy for you. Zuckerman is if you have $10 million to spend on a car, but you have to. Or on cars, but you have one day to do it, so you got to pull the triggers quick. Oh, it's easy. Yeah, yeah, that's. That can go. There's a. There's got to be like a Tour de France, Ferrari. Yeah. There's got to be, you know, maybe even a Porsche 550 or, you know, some big piece like a 935. There's your 10 million. Even at. At that price, Zuckerman's like, well, I'll see what's there on the day. That wasn't hard, you know. 10 million. 10 million. Yeah. Yeah. You're gonna have to bring this number, like 50. 50. You've got a challenge. And you can't say it can't be one car. It's got to be five cars. Yeah, yeah. Five to multiple. Yeah, yeah. Because I immediately went to 250. Short wheelbase. Whatever I save, I'll donate. Yeah, I am. I'm at the point where I just want one beautiful thing. Blue chip 60s Ferrari will do it for you. That's it. Yeah. I mean, because, I mean, it's so hard to drive. I mean, it's really killing my car buying spirit. There's just. Yeah. Driving in LA sucks right now. Well, we've Lost two appendages here. I know. We have. No, really, we're missing an arm and a leg. It's fucking terrible right now. Yeah. So that's. You know, really, when you said pitch the 944, I was like, I don't drive right now. I need it to open up. I'm actually sort of excited for the Manx because that's. I can enjoy that while just, like, puttering around the city. Well, hopefully they open up. Pch. Okay. Maybe we have to do a driver drive then. Maybe we have to do. We have to. We have to do an La La Paz drive. Okay. Oh, yeah. This is never gonna happen. I know, but it's okay. You had trouble driving here. Do it 100. I have. My friend. I had. I have family in the San Diego area, and they road trip in Mexico all the time. Like, it's not that big of a deal. La Paz has a new hotel. It's supposed to be really good. Really? One star Michelin restaurant. They got the almond. La Paz. Do it. I have to pee really bad. Why don't you guys do five minutes of radio while I do that, and then we can send you off and tag team in the next bunch. Okay. Sounds good. Thank you guys for coming by and. Yeah, congratulations, man. A thousand is a lot of radios. Yeah. Yeah. Here from the beginning. Yeah, it's fun. I'll be back in five. Hopefully a thousand more. Is this thousand and one? This is one thousand one. This is the one thousand. Otherwise, these balloons would be meaningless. Yeah. So you've been here from Dana. How did he convince you to even start this and stick around? Actually, it's the reverse. This was two. In 2009, I moved here. I was listening to Adam Kroll on the radio, and then he announced that his radio show was ending and he's going to start a podcast. Some drunk guys he asked us to cover for five years early in 2010 and 11. And then we noticed we'd have these house parties and people would watch us talk about cars. And so I just hated Matt. We're like, we should make a podcast because people listen to us talk about cars. Uncle Leo, at the time, it was very funny. He's like, ah, hello. Rogan already has a podcast. Mark Marin. Like, there's too many. Yeah, there's two. And so that's kind of how the genesis begins. Look at what's going on here. Zuckerman. What do we get? They're drinking on a Sunday morning. You're gonna get wasted every year. Yeah, I Ubered Here. That's why I. So you made a plan to get drunk? I want to start drinking. You know, you interrupted a really important story. But that's okay. We've heard the story. Yeah, I have also. We also heard this story on our show. Really? Yes. Was I there? Were you not there? I wasn't there, Zach. You were. We'll go out for coffee later. Who was there? Was it just the three of us? It was just three of us. No, it was me, you, and. And Matt. And Matt. Yeah. Because we did it here. Yeah. Wow. Welcome back. Anytime. That was a big show. People liked having you on. Yeah, it's fun. I liked. You have the notes. You had the plan going along, and then the ad read slips in. You got to. It's a show. You're not just making it up. We did. You could. But it gets better with notes and a plan. So what is special about this drink, Johnny, that you brought in that barrel? And I picked that barrel personally. Why is the label like this? That's how they did the label. Well, so. So you picked it how? You sampled it and you said. We had a bunch of barrels. And I sat down with. I sampled a whole bunch and I said, these are the two best ones. And are you an investor in this company? Nope. Were you drunk at the time the sampling ended? No. No. Would a normal person be drunk? No. Really? No. We were just tasting whiskey. We got very drunk. Like about five minutes. But normally tasting whiskey involves in pie. Be. How. How deep are we into this marathon? Like, how many hours are you going. We're at two hours. And how. The dot. And we're going to six. You're going to six, and you're going to start drinking now? I'm not. I'm going to start drinking, like, four. You and Christian are going to start. I can't. I can't drink that long. I would fall asleep, so. I see. But yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. It's going to be like one of those Instagrams where they take the pictures after one drink, after two, after ten. That's fun. The smiles get bigger and then they vomit and they're nakedness, all of everything. It's like a Guy Richie montage. Yes. Very good one. Yeah. So we're going to. Yeah. I don't know where Christian went, but that was the plan. I think it's a good plan. It's a good plan. Solid plan work. Hello. Okay, you're back. Me. While Johnny takes me. I got Johnny. You come party. You come party. Mike. Okay. Party. Mike. Yeah. I Will party Mike. Take a party. Mike. Congratulations. Thank you. Jack. I smell something illegal. What is the. What is the audience totally legal. What does the audience think about what we're doing here? They like a lot. Congratulations. Everyone having a good time? Seven thousand viewers views. Fourteen hundred right now. Okay. Oh. Fourteen hundred concurrent right now. Oh, that's pretty good. Hi live people. Paul, Spike. Thank you for your time. Thank you for having us. Spike's car radio, of course is everybody every week get it Wednesdays. Every Wednesday now on YouTube also. That's right. In your fancy schmancy studio with your fancy production and yeah. I'll see you guys soon. Are we doing next weekend? Maybe we'll do something. Let's do it. Yeah. We need. We need excuses to go driving. Have another Helms Bakery cars and coffee. That was an enjoyable Sunday. Thanks. We. We're gonna talk about that right now. About the ups and the downs of having a cars and coffee and Los Angeles. Thank you very much. Boys. We can just meet there. Drive safe. We. We can also meet there without telling people. That's not a bad idea. Back we got. We got a few people still in the lounge. So we now have an empty chair in the studio. So if you're in the lounge. Come on. Come on back in. No one's listening. We're all talking over each other in the lounge. That's okay. We're doing that in here as well. Right. We didn't. We didn't ask J. Johnny the questions. Well, I know I was. That's why I was hoping Christian would come back in as well. We could start with Johnny. He's coming back in. We can. We're. We. We're doing a thing where we have. Feel free to adjust that. Yeah. We're doing a thing where we have three questions for everybody. Do it. I'm ready. A sort of. Sort of consistency to the program. Yeah. Yes. The first question is, you know, we started this podcast the very January 2012. January of 2012. What were you doing in January of 20? I was on your podcast. Episode three. Yeah. The most appeared guest. Am I officially? I speculated. I would be. Definitely are. There's no okay there. I don't even think there's anybody close. So. January 2012. Professionally still at Motor Trend. That was probably when Head to head was getting rolling one. And that was when we had. Yeah. The YouTube money showed up in 2011. So we were getting big and we were doing. We were spending a lot of money on car videos. Yes. It was awesome. Zach has just pulled up the 2012 Motor Trend Best Driver's car. Johnny wrote this, which was written by you. It's got the 991 Carrera S. It's got an Aventador and the winner Camaro 1 LE. No, no, no, that's the Z28. Which was. Which was the winner. Yeah. No, I think the winner was the Carrera. Let me. Oh, that's a Z 28. Oh, it is a Z 28. You're right. If it's a Z 28, the Z 28 won. And I found out later they cheated it. Really? In what way? They chipped it. So instead of 500 horse, it was making like 550. And is an LS7 leaving that much on the table with software, it was 505. Well, look, GM's performance division. They know how to make more horsepower. And they did some wacky. Be like, you know, front camera like this. And it was. It was. So you gave first place to the Carrera S. So, Johnny, I think we're getting the year wrong. Okay, 2012 would have been ZL1 with the CTSV engine, 14 or 15. The wrong. You're right. They're all conflated. Yeah, Fair S. So the question I want to ask is. It all blurs together, of course. Do you still agree with that assessment or do you think. Can we run through the cars real quick and I'll tell you, let's look. A C63. I'll tell you something really funny about the C63 being second place. So Tobias, who was then the head engineer, he wasn't CEO yet of amg. He came to the office and I said, oh, you did the C63 Black Series? Like, we love that car, man. We just gave it second place in best driver's car. And he's like, second place. That was first. And I was like, oh, the. The new 991. He's like, oh, yeah, that's a very good car. There's no, like, list of things. Well, we can go up and look at the photo. I saw a Nissan gtr. I don't know what edition it was, but it would have been black edition. Probably Nismo, maybe. We've got the ZL1. I see a McLaren MP412C. I see an Aventador, a C63 coupe, and something. One other car. I can't. Yeah, it's a C63 black. I remember this year that the. The Aventador was like hot garbage. It was like, really, really bad. Yeah, the first Avenadors were awful. And no One would believe me. And I'm like, no, I think, I think we put it like 9th or 10th. Yeah, yeah. Like they didn't turn for. And I'll tell you how bad it was. Lambo wasn't mad. Do you remember, like if you would give last place to a Ferrari, what would happen? Right. It would be bad. Lambo was like, okay, next. And then it was really bad. And I remember the McLaren was just felt like one of the most unfinished things I'd ever driven. And then what was interesting, Jaguar xkrs. Oh, yeah, that was a fun car. Which actually as a road car is fabulous. Yeah, it's a really good car. But on a track, obviously it's. Yeah, I don't. That one, I honestly, I don't remember. I remember, I remember the McLaren, like was. Was like a standout in terms of like performance. Like the lap time we got out of it was really good. But like, like it just, it, it just sounded like you're sitting inside of a dentist drill. It was just this horrible noise and. And then we just. Yeah, it was. And turned out it was unfinished. It took him like six more years to finish it. Yeah. So eventually it got quite good. Okay, well, I understand. So that's what you were doing, GT500. You were doing what you're doing now, kind of. Although we got rid of that. So there's a lot less interesting these days. The next question is best road trip ever. And you've been on so many like curated ones that that's really hard. I could limit it to best like ones outside of work, but it's so much crossover that I think we can include. Oh, man. We can include work related road trips. Well, I'll tell you. No, I won't tell you that story. Hang on. Best, best, best. Jethro and I did one where we went to Newport Pagnel, which is the former headquarters of Aston Martin and it's currently the Aston Martin works center. Did my Vanquish. Yeah. And. And so all the old timey stuff goes on there. And we had a Vanquish. The then new Vanquish, not the new Vanquish. Yeah. And we had the new Bentley Continental gt and the idea was to drive from there to Le Mans. Oh, hello. Have a seat. Sarah Trimble enters the studio. Hello, Sarah. A rescheduler. Look, I want to be in here. Can I stay for five minutes? You don't want to be in here. You brought me a card? Yes. On your day of your daughter's wedding. Thank you. Should I read it? Now, Sarah Trimble is a Hollywood stunt driver, a very good friend of mine, and also did most of the interior design in our home, along with her business partner, Webb, who is also a genius. Oh, thank you so much. Got the thing on the front got a pull. Oh, what do I do with this lobster? Is this for the. It's a lobster. Or wait, this tail. The tail of this lobster. What do I do? I rip it off. Oh. Oh, hello. Oh, Sam. Yeah. Hey, Sam. Celebrity walk on. Sam. Oh, Sam. Hold on. I just got on now. You have an active microphone. Is this how it works? Do I just walk in? Well, we've been scheduling people on the Hoff. Okay. But Sarah doesn't want to be here. So you just wanted to say hi. You just want to say hi, and this lobster comes off and says, you're the shit. Wow. Thank you, Sarah. We love you. Thank you for coming. No, she doesn't really want to be here. She'll insist. Sarah, if you change your mind and do want to be here, you can come back and do radio with us. Okay? And until then, you know, Johnny, unfortunately, I saw you a day ago. Two days ago, literally. Okay, pause for a moment. We took. We took an Oricon off road Serato. So as one should do. Okay, so the plan was to drive to Le Mans to watch the race, and what we wound up doing instead was we drove to, like, I don't remember. But long story short, we wound up at Spa, and we did a track at Spa accidentally. Oh, no. On purpose. Okay, all right, fine. Yeah, but. But we did it. But we did a track day at Spa with the cars, and. And then the next day, we drove to the Nurburgring, where we're gonna go drive around the Nurburgring. And this is a funny story which is still causing me tsaurus with Bentley to this day was as we're like, you know, airing up the tires for the Nurburgring. Bentley PR person is like, you took the car on Spa yesterday. Yeah. You really should have told us if you were taking on a racetrack. I'm literally, like, at the gas station. Like, try not to look at my Instagram for 24 hours. And then we went on the Nurburgring with the cars, and then we decided to successfully hit 200 miles an hour in both cars on a public road on the Autobahn. The thing about Bentleys is they're the best. They're actually. Actually just kind of the best. In this case, the Vanquish was better. But look, I'll put it like this. Go around the Nurburgring where are you going in a 2019 Continental GT and go around the Nurburgring in a 2019 Vanquish. And Vanquish is way better. Okay. And The Vanquish hit 211. The Bentley can only go 201. But this is very important to me. But I'll tell you if. Funny story. So, you know, because The Vanquish made 700 and whatever horsepower it was, it got to 211 way quick. The Bentley was like, you get to 186 and then it was a big ramp up, and it was kind of raining, and it was at night, and it just wasn't happening in this direction. So after like four attempts, I give up, come back the other way, and it's just wide open. So I'm like, do it. And I just. I did it. But I was pulling so hard on the steering. Steering wheel that I bent the wheel so that when the car turned, it would now scrape against the. The hub. But I got 201 on a GoPro. And obviously it wasn't stressful at all. You've never gone 2001 on a public road at night while it's raining. I don't think. While it's raining. Yeah, the rain pies. The rain part. Just a little rain. Not a lot of rain. So, Sam, what we're doing, among other things and bullshitting and doing radio. We're such leatherman. Is we're trying to be like, consistent. We have a little three question. Would you go up to Tatiana? We have a little three question sort of quiz for everybody. Okay, so there's three. So I've done. Johnny just answered the second of three. Okay, and the third, Johnny, while you're cutting over there, is. And you can think about your answer now. Now is you have $10 million that you must spend on cars in one day. Oh, come on. One day. Okay, so what. What are. What are we buying? Oh, my God. Jay Leno has entered the. Yay's here. Oh, very. That was the secret guest that Zuckerman was referring to. Oh, what a. What a delight. Should I jump out of this chair now? You've been upstage. Maybe you can change your flight home. Grab an earlier one. I mean, that's a crazy question. Okay, I'll try and answer. Oh, my God. Okay, I would get. Boy, I'll get a SLS black series. Oh, that's a good one. I would probably also get a real gullwing. Okay, so I'd have my matching gullwing. We can call that 2 million for the pair. Yeah, that's about right. Yeah. Okay. Two million for the pair. I would buy your Countach. Okay. How much is that? Three million. Could you make it. Could you make it seven in this farce? I think we need to lower the amount, rather. Some people are having. Zuckerman spent 10 million and Spike spent $10 million. In one word. One word. I could do that. Zuckerman said we should raise it to 50. They're trying to do like. What are you doing? Yeah, yeah. Okay. Countach. I mean, God, I don't know. I think you have 6 million left. I have 6 million left. Okay. I'll help you. Yeah. A roof. Yellow Bird just sold for 6 million. I would probably take a roof, you know, but I would want a new one. Oh, okay. The new. Yeah, Okay. A new one. That's a mill. You're 40ft from one right now. From a new one behind your wall. Yeah, yeah. Nice. Okay, I take that. So that's I've now million left. Okay. All you have to do is say a pair of each. Yes. Or something. No, no, no. I want to actually. That's what Ralph Lauren does. He always gets a pair. Oh, yeah. So his sons don't fight over them. Oh, my God. He wanted them each to have one. Okay, sure. It is. It's a boss movie. Yeah, I. Which one does he hugging? Yeah. Even wing as well. Right. Except he has three McLaren F1s there. Herein lies the problem. I don't know, Matt. I don't know. I think that's a good, I think that's a good start. Yeah. Okay. All right. Okay. Yeah. Some people have like a 10 million dollar car, and other people. I could do a 10 million. I, I, the first thing that popped in my head was a 250 short wheelbase. But that's, that's 17 million. So get a bad one. Get a bad, A bad one. Salvage title, the one Epstein owned. You don't want one that's been crashed. Just one with a very sketchy past. Oh, you know, I would buy a Diablo sv. I'll give you a million there. I mean. Yeah, yeah. It would take regular people a while to get to 10 million Lamborghinis and gull wings. I would have, I would have a very nice Lamborghini collection. I have an LMO2 and I'd have every gull wing Mercedes say he's ever made. Yeah. All right. Yeah. How's that? That's all you need, Sam, have you met Jay Leno before? I've never met Jay. Do you want to that would be. I'll get him in. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Jay Leno. I'm gonna try and open this. Okay. All right. All right. You can. And wow. This is suddenly turned into a great day for me. Welcome back hang out. Thank you so much. Most, perhaps most importantly, hold on to these coattails. Sam. Yes. There's two seconds. Most importantly, bow with Jay. How does it work? Do I look at his eyes or you do. You act like a regular human. Salute, by the way. He can hear you. Oh, crap. Oh. Oh. He can finish eating his sandwich. Look who I. Jay. Jay Leno. What's going on? You can finish your sandwich. It is not a hurry. Yeah, you can finish it here. It asks the dynamic. What's going on? Nothing. So nice of you to come by. Oh, yeah, it is great. This is a surprise. Great place. Yeah, thank you. It's a great hanging place, apparently. Yeah. A little closer. Jay Leno in the house. How's the sandwich? My wife will really want to know. Mike's Deli. Good. Good. All right. Cool. Not bad. There you go. This is makes Sam makes videos from England. He's a very nice, very good, very talented, nice young boy. Sorry, we're in England. Yeah, London. Yeah. London. Born and bred. Now Surrey, because I couldn't afford to live in London. Yeah. My parents didn't buy me a place. I was like, well, I gotta buy some place. Surrey, a bunch of Russian bikes. I'm like a stone throw from Wimbledon. Tennis, which is great. They don't give me free tickets, but it's still a nice place to hang out. Very quiet out here. We have to be very quiet. We used to have a place in Bury St. Edmund. Oh, yeah, that's super nice. Near the Abbey. Did you go to London enough to justify a place? No, it was my aunt. My mother's from Scotland. Oh, okay. Cool. My aunt. High place there. How are you doing, Jay? So nice to see you. Tell a few jokes, try to make a living. That's the gig. Nice. All right. Are you doing the road right now? I'm always on the road. I mean, but like, are you. You're with the frequency that you were a couple years ago. Last night I was in up. Northern California. Nice. West Westland. Cashing checks. Exactly, yeah. Good for you. And you're feeling all right? I know there was a rough three, four months. No, it wasn't fine. It was fine. Stupid. Didn't you get clotheslined on a motorcycle? Well, you know, first my face caught fire. Yeah. I got a new face. I saw you after that the new face? It looks really good. It was really good. I saw you really fast. Well, then I got clotheslined. It ripped my face right across here. The new face. I went back. I called my face guy. I need another face. Dude. Third time lucky, huh? It's all right. All right. Wow. But then you felt it on the hill, which. I felt it on the hill. Now you're on life number four. So what are we talking about today? I don't know. I mean, in theory, we're supposed to be celebrating ourselves, but it's nice that you're here. People in Hollywood celebrating themselves. How unusual. I've never heard of that in la. Really? Yeah, we try not to, but, you know, doing a thousand or something feels like a lot. Oh, you got a thousand shows? This is the thousandth episode. Oh, wow. That's what these balloons mean. It's not how many. It's not how many convict criminal convictions I have. That's why everyone's here. You stop by for the sandwiches. I understand. Okay. Yeah, he's. He. That's not for subscribers. That would be a great. That one's for subscribers. You got one of them. I know. They're fun. Yeah, that's fair. That. That $12 really makes you. Yeah, but I hate that they don't give you another one for so long. It's like a little teaser. We have them both. We have 100,000 and then the million. And the gap in between, I think was 14 years. Yes. There you go. It was crazy. Have you been doing it 14 years? We started doing YouTube in 2006 and the podcast since 2012. Crazy. And you do the Watch podcast, too. We stopped doing that. We did that for two and a half years. And it was fun. And then we. I decided that I had to either be way more snobby or way more nerdy to continue. I hit the wall of my personal snobbery and nerdery as it comes to watches. Oh, that's interesting. You have a cool. What is that one? Is that one. Is that a Vacheron? Yeah. Oh, wow. That's the Vacheron driver's watch. 1921. It's from 1921. Well, it came out in 1921. They re. Yeah, they reissued it because of. Well, what you see, you see it's offset. So when you. The idea is when it came out in 1921, steering wheel wheels are like this. Yeah, it's for driving underhand. So when you look at it, it looks. The whole thing is offset. If you put it up here, you have to go again. I wear my watch on my right hand and I love the idea of that. But do they make one that goes the other where it's tilted the other way? Is what I really need a right handed. I need a right hand version of that. So I wear it on the hand. If I wear yours on my right hand, it's tilted even more. I can't. I won't be able to read any touch. Well that's. I don't think so. I think it is Jay. I'm pretty sure that if you find out live you see it, these Vacheron makes a. Quite the, quite the motoring watch. Yeah. This is, this is like some sterling moss. Yeah. So look, if I put this on, on this wrist where I wear it, it's tilted even more if I'm driving it. It's now easier to look at now. No, it's harder. But you're right. Meant to be worn on this wrist so it's vertical when I hold it. What if you do inside of your wrist? Yeah, do the inside inside because that makes them the same. It's exactly the same. Yeah. Now flip it 180 and see. Okay. If I wear it on the inside of my wrist and drive like I'm rolling a six four Impala down Crenshaw, then I can read it. This was right. This is pre wokeness. It's not meant for lefties. Yeah. On this hand it's perfect. You're holding your wheel like this. It's perfectly. Yeah, I mean to me I'm like. That's why I'm just wondering if you called Vacheron would they tilt the dial inside the case the appropriate direction. Wait, interesting point. So you're left handed. Do you always wear your watch on your left watch has been this way since 1921. I absolutely understand but I just want them to make one that tilts the other way too. I'm not trying to change it. You'd like to change it entirely. I just wanted. I want inclusivity. $20,000 Vacheron Watch World, please. It's a beautiful watch though. Oh, they're wonderful. Yeah, they do a nice job. I don't normally see you wearing. I almost always wear. See you wearing your like Apple watch. And every time I see you I don't want to get my arm cut off. Well, and it's because where you. And you wear it and you say it's because you use the speedometer and the, and the GPS on it when you're driving old stuff or driving old Stuff. Yeah, it is actually pretty. I should have worn my Terra Luna. You ever seen a Terra Luna? I'm sure I have. Tell me what it is along the zone. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, is that the full loom dial? No, it's. No, on the other side. It's got the moon phase. Oh, yeah, yeah. Perpetual. Yeah, yeah, that. This is it. Longa is that says. That's terrible right there. Yeah, yeah. Crazy. Go. Go ahead. Go up a little bit more. Oh, you know where I saw. I think I saw you wearing a long longa. At the Audrain concourse. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. How was that this year? Good. Good. I like that. It's. It's nice. It's like what pebble beach used to be. Newport is such a great place for that type of event. Have you ever been there? No, it's a smaller. It's straight after Pebble Beach. No, it's in October. Oh, okay. And they really take over the whole town of Newport. Oh, yeah. And it's a. It's a like a really, like kind of like walkable town. But they. They have the. The quote cottages. Has a cottage. And I'm sure it's two up, two down. It's. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they're. The term cottage is used incredibly loosely, but they make fabulous backdrops for cars. Is this the Internet now? Yes. Well, you can go to my cottage if you go to. Oh, yeah. Let's see the cottage. Put a 254 Ocean Avenue. We saw Jay's cottage when we did the Audrain, the veteran run. We drove by. It might be hard to miss. I mean, it looks like many of the other ones around it, but it's pretty extraordinary. Go to 254 Ocean Avenue. I think we need a street view. Yep. Or satellite. Satellite. Satellite. Yeah. Right here. J. Okay. So in England, we call that a castle. Valid. They only called it a cottage in Newport because the people in England hadn't been there yet and just had to take their word for it. There should be a video. No, this is it. Yeah. It's amazing. It's the coolest house ever. This would come with a title. In the uk, this would come with a title. It has a name, doesn't it? J Se. Four swords and a dragon. A jupdum or an el. Go to the. Where's the video? There's a video. Photos and videos. I don't know. How do I find that? I don't know. How long have you had to look at this video? Seven years. Okay. It's so beautiful. I kind of want to own. I mean, for the price of a condo on Wilshire. Yeah. Okay, that's what you get. But I actually, last time I went to Newport, I did go by boat. And it is the best place to go by boat. The Newport harbor is fantastic. You just stay right there and all the restaurants are there. It's amazing. And then we went out around, around the point and checked it out and stuff like this. Yeah. But wait, I read somewhere that you do not keep any fun cars in Newport. No, I don't keep anything there. Well, I. The museum has every car you could possibly imagine. Every Porsche. So let me borrow when I'm there. But the salt, I mean, the car would die. Yeah. The house is right on the water, so. Yeah. I remember years ago when I was single, I had a Corvair and I seen a girl live down in Malibu. I just parked it there. When I spent the night in the house, my car was covered with rust. Yeah. It was like, what? Yeah, so we had to break up. People in LA break up for like. I broke up with a girl because she lived in Pasadena once. Yeah, same kind of thing. Like, I'm not doing that weather or traffic. Traffic, traffic. Too far. Too much in commute. Well, if you're a comedian and a girl says, why do you have to work every night? Okay, thank you. Goodbye. Thank you. You know, even with my wife listening in the live stream in the other room, this girl was a model and a rocket scientist who worked at JPL Sounds. And I was like, pasadena? No. So a long distance relationship in LA is about 10 miles or 15. Yeah. You got. Or a two hour drive. Right? Yeah, you do kind of have to have like the Tinder radius was invented for this, for this city. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What are you spending? I mean, I know you try to love all your automotive children equally, but what are spending the most time driving these days? Well, you know, I just. I've been driving that countach for 40 years. Yeah. And I said, well, let me do some maintenance. Oh my God, I'm in the middle of it too. Oh my God. What are you doing? Well, I redid the interior. You know, every piece of trim is like a jigsaw puzzle. There's so much. It's a birdcage type frame, as you know. So you every. Nothing makes any sense. The manuals, it's in Italian. Yeah, yeah. You get boxes that say, try one of these switches. One of these might fit. And the wires are all too short. So when you have a wire, you literally have to pull it off the. You know, and then you have switches that do two things. Power goes through this switch to get to the. So. Oh, my God. Like in series. Yeah, like you think. You think, why isn't it. Why isn't it? I got the fan. And why isn't the air conditioner coming? Oh, I see. You have to turn that. Oh. And then the power goes through that switch. I mean, it's just crazy. I mean, I love the car. It's a great car, but it's ridiculous. Are you re. Trimming it as original? You're not changing anything. You're just restoring. Well, again, re. Trimming it as original. The perforation pattern is so bizarre. One guy on the east coast can do it, so you got to send the leather to him, you know? Know. It's like just every conceivable. Ridiculous. Oh, for this. Like for the door speakers. The perforation. No, for the seats. Oh, your seats are perforated? Yeah. I'll show you. Go down. Come on down. Show it downstairs. The Kuntas. Oh, you drove it here? Yeah. Oh, cool. I didn't know you drove. Yeah, cool. Oh, fun. Yeah. No, no, my seats are definitely not perforated. No, mine. What year is yours? 88. Okay. Were they Chrysler then? No, no. Yeah, 89, I think. 89, 90. Yeah, yeah. No, mine is. My. Mine is just as weird and stupid as. As yours. Mine is the last carbureted car. The very last one. Well, at least in the United States. That's why I bought it, because fuel injection was that fancy stuff, you know, it's 86. Yeah, but. And plus the carbureted car had more horsepower. Oh, yours is a four valve. I didn't realize. Yeah, mine is the very first year of the Quattro, so. What? My engine and gearbox are in Italy right now. Oh, wow. I know this. You're not gonna like this. You're not gonna like any of this because you guys wrench on everything, but you're not gonna like this at all. My engine and gearbox are in Italy and my car is an injection car. Right. So I'm having them. It's a full engine and gearbox rebuild, you know, once every 25 years. And they're doing the European cams, European exhaust and small delete, keeping the injection, tuning that for. How do you get past smog? Your law, unfortunately, I'm timing it. Let's hope that passes. I'm a dealer. I have dealer plates. Let's hope that my car never passed smog. Anyway, do you want to talk about that. It's actually kind of important. Mine passes. Yeah. Well, actually the, you know, I think it's a good law. I think it's fair. We talked about it when we first read about it before your name, I saw your name attached to it. Well, the thing is unfair is the fact that if you have a car from the 80s or 90s, not necessarily a collector car, and if you're a driver, you should only have to meet the standard of that year. Sure. Now they keep upping it and so plus if you have a car from the 80s or 90s, it's very hard to get parts. So your car's off the road for no reason. I mean, I have a number of cars I put maybe 1,000 miles a year on. And why does that have to meet smog? Yeah, I understand. If you had to get a new cat for a car from 1992, it is a prohibitive. It could total the car. Literally could total the car. And actually it impacts collectors and it also impacts guys like gardeners that are driving around trucks that have to be registered in California and blah, blah, blah. It is actually seems like a pretty common sense law. It does, but this is California, so common sense really doesn't know. It doesn't really make any sense. Sure. But we can hope. Well keep our fingers crossed. We testify in the 8th of April. So we'll go up to Sacramento and testify and see what happens. But your countach passes smog? Yeah, it does actually. So I have service records of mine going back to the 90s, and I have year after year after year of the car failing smog for the last 20 years. Wow. Car never passed smog. Wow. And whatever. Was it a California car when you bought it? I bought it in California, yeah. Whatever the. Whatever the previous owner did, I don't know, it didn't pass smog, so, you know, whatever. But again, thousand miles a year, a car of artistic and historical value, you know, and I would be more than willing to pay California the taxes to drive this car legally in California. To me, it's like. But they haven't provided a path. It's like the film. I mean, hot rodding was born in California. It's a billion dollar business. And you're just putting all these. It's like the film industry. You just drive them out of Hollywood so everybody goes somewhere else, you know, which makes no sense to me. Like now on my TV show, we use permits just so we don't have any problem. And this is what we're told since so many people Left California. They have to up our rates to make up for those people. Why don't I just leave, too? I don't. I mean, why don't you lower it and get more. It doesn't. You know, I can go down this street. If I make a left, I'm permanent. If I make a right, I get nailed as $5,000. I mean, it doesn't make any sense, really. Especially with the production of your show is pretty small. Relatively small. And same with this dumb stuff that we're doing. But there isn't, like, a scale of product permitting for, like, size of production. Right, right. I mean, you have to get cops and safety to a certain point. But, like, what we're doing up on the hill to get permits for that is like the same as, like, Michael Bay sending a car off a bridge. Right? Right. Yeah. Yeah. It's like. It's not really possible. Yeah. It doesn't make any sense. They don't try to keep business here. I really don't understand it. It doesn't make. Because I try to look at both sides. Okay, so what's the reason for this? It doesn't make any sense to me. They haven't kept up, certainly with the tax incentives that other states are doing in order to keep production here. It seems to be we know a lot of people in production that are having a very hard time right now. Oh, I know, it's terrible. I think they're gonna have to make big changes to bring that pendulum back here. Otherwise the industry may just leave forever. I remember when I came to town, there were six helicopter pilots that I encouraged that. Did you know Hawaii 5o and all of those shots, they worked 12 hours a day, every day. Every one of them's out of a job. Well, they all got replaced by drones. Drones just put that business right out the window. You know, it's unbelievable. I mean, I do feel bad for those pilots, but drones are. Drones are pretty awesome. I do have to say, drones are awesome. I couldn't afford a pilot, so there's a great. Do you ever follow Fred north on Instagram? No. He's a movie pilot. He's like. He. His Instagrams are his tunnels. Yeah. Any crazy, crazy Mission Impossible helicopter stunt is this guy. Yeah. Fred Underscore North. Wow, great follow. The stuff he posts is really, really great. Like BT. Lots of BTS stuff. Nice. Got the C18 Allison in it. That's what's in my motorcycle in that. Oh, My God, the Y2K bike. Oh, yeah. Do you still ride that thing? Oh, yeah, the jet bike. You know, you're so glad when you get off it, you know, because you walk away from it. Well, it's so frightening to. Is it driven by thrust or. No, no, it's driven by. It's. It's what goes through a transmission. It's shaft driven and. Okay. And, and. But the revs are like. It's like 10,000 or something. Something, right? No, it's about the same. Is it? It's about the same, yeah. It's geared. Direct drive or it has gears. No, it has. I have. It has two gears. Oh, it does. We. We used a homemade transmission using Toyota parts and it works fine. It works good. But it just. At what speed do you upshift from first to second? 200. Yeah. 45, 50. Oh, okay. So it's like low and high. Yeah, low and high. You know, it's like a two speed power glide. Okay. Is basically what it is. Does a turbine have any break? No. Engine braking at all? No. And the other thing is you have a full second delay on stop and accelerate. For example, if I. Wait, wait, say that again. You have a full second delay. Yes. If you open the throttle from rest, 1, 2, and when you stop, you grab. Grab the brake and nothing happens for a full second. Now, a second doesn't seem very long. No, it does. It seems very long. 80 or 90. So you think, okay, I'm going to stop up there. So let me apply the brake here. You have to think ahead. I understand. Because the turbine doesn't break because it has to spool down. There's no compression braking. Everything's spinning in the same direction. It's not like a piston where stuff's going up and down and you can, you can use that engine braking. It's like the Titanic heading for the iceberg. It takes a while. Yeah, yeah. If you're doing 80 miles per hour, you're doing 117ft per second so that you can cover a third of a football field. When you decide to try stopping and you stop, this is it. 50 horsepower. I'll show you mine. Show it up there. Where's one of turbine bike? It's a very dangerous game we play. Show our search history. This laptop lives only here. Yeah, it's clean. It's clean. It's clean, bro. That's what. It's clean. We got to get through that. But you know, it's so great. Could you just. Well, and you have a tur. Your Chrysler turbine car as well. Right, right. Same thing. Second delay on power and brakes or different. Not quite as bad. The turbine car is built for automotive use. Okay. Yeah. It's not. It's not a modified turbo. Something else. This is such a cool thing. I mean, just as an invention. I remember reading about it as, like, a teenager, and I just thought, yeah, I've seen you on riding before, back when, when. Before they closed the Snake. I saw you at the top of the Snake on it. Yeah. Yeah. It's hilarious. It's hilarious because you just. You know, I was in a light once, and I saw these cops, you know, and it idles at 52%. So, you know, whoa. And they're like this. They're looking up. They're looking for the helicopter. I'm just sitting there. And then, of course, you know the story. I've got a TV camera in the back, so. And the dash, rather. And this guy in Nissan Maxima, he keeps etching up. What's that? And I'm watching his front bumper because it's 1400 degrees. Look at that exhaust pipe. The huge exhaust pipe throwing out, you know, fire, essentially melting people. So if it idles at 52%, you just let off the throttle, and then it'll accelerate to, what, like 20 on its own? In an 8th mile drag, you lose. In a quarter mile drag, you kill the guy. Yeah. Whoa. Because once you hit 70, 80, 90%, I mean, it's pulling. It's an airplane, you know, it must be terrifying. Is that a burnout you're doing in that shot, or is that just the exhaust? Well, that's just because I was sitting idling and oil was building up. Oh, okay. But, yeah, yeah, that's terrifying. That's insane. Outrageous. It sounds like a plane taxiing toward the Runway, 237. Top speed, miles per hour. Does the sound give you a sense of the speed? Do you get a sense of, like. Does the sound change? It sounds so smooth. It's a smooth. And the noise is all behind you. Yeah. You just strafe people on the highway. Just. That's got to be great. I mean, motorcycling is already, you know, halfway to flying. I bet this is the most. Like, have you ridden. You've ridden a Livewire or other, like, good electric motorcycle? You know, I've got. The Italian company just went bankrupt. I got one of theirs, the Energica Genica. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's great, right? Yeah, it's great. It's. And it's like flying a glider. You know what's so funny? I got it, and I said, only take it up on the 5 Freeway and this never happened to me before. I'm on the 5 Freeway. I'm going about 35, 80 and a piece of metal comes off a guy's truck goes and slices the rear tire. Just cut it right across and bam, bam, bam, bam. Go. Fuck. I'm going down. I didn't go down. Luckily I got off the side of the road but I had to stay with my foot. I had just until I was there for like an hour because I, I didn't want to put it on its side but the side stand was go down. I just had to sit there until. Oh, is that it? That's a beautiful bike. Yeah, that's it. I mean it looks like a, you know, like a Gixxer or something. It's 180 horsepower. I mean it's incredible fast. Yeah. And smooth. I mean it's very, very good. I like the, the vibe of the electric bikes. They're, they're like, it's like flying a glider. It's really, really, you know, it really is good. You go, oh, this thing is. This is very good, you know. Yeah. Especially I'm living in Beverly Hills so motorcycles, people go a little nutty. But that thing is. Yeah. You know, it's terrific. I mean my, my everyday is my Vespa. My Vespa 300. Which ever is great because everyone thinks you're just like delivering Uber eats. Sure. You know, they're nice. Is it quite a sight you own a Vespa? Is that quite a. I mean it's a, it's lime green. Okay. It is lime. You look like a circus bear. I mean it's a 300. So it's bigger than the regular 300cc. Yeah. Water cooled. Oh wow. It does 85 miles an hour. One one cylinder, single cylinder. Yeah. But it's a balance. So it probably. It has a balance. It's, it's, it has, it also has like bigger, bigger wheels, better suspension. It actually has ABS and traction control. I love it so much. I use it all the time. It's great. Yeah. And that's a. I, I can beat anyone off the line that doesn't know they're racing me. Yeah, that's a successful strategy I've found. Yeah. Yeah. I drove the jet bike home once and that did not go in Beverly Hills. They're like, Harold's probably landing the chopper on the roof again. But you know what's so funny? There's a guy in Benedict Canyon that has a helicopter and I guess it's got A sign. I saw it land once in the canyon near his house, which is illegal. Yeah, but I said, I mean, it's very muffled. It came down in the line. So he must have flown it home. There was a guy. I went to a Pagani party a couple years ago at one of these houses that one of these like hotshot Bel Air developers built. And it had the chopper from the TV show Airwolf on the roof. Oh, that guy. Remember? You know what I'm talking about? That guy tried to. Makowski. Bruce Makowski was his name. Yeah, yeah. He said, oh, follow me, I'll show. But the helicopter didn't work. Yeah, well, so that was what he said. Right? They said it was a non working prop. And then we went to the property and the agents representing it told me and Hannah like, oh, it's just pad. Like this thing like removed and you just put that back and it flopped. And I was like, so like you just fly in and out and land on the roof. And they're like, you're not supposed to. And I go, you mean is it. It's illegal. And he just goes, well, you pay a fine. Did that house ever sell? It did. I think they wanted 250 when I was there. And I think they got 105 or something ultimate. This says five years ago it sold for 94. 94. 94. Yeah, it was. It was bananas. Yeah, it wasn't a very nice house. It was just everything. It was, you know, one of those things make everything as expensive as possible. Right, right. Old doors, stuff like that. Onyx everywhere. There was like a. Like a candy store, you know, like in the. In the bay with the big huge tubes and the. Of the can. I mean, it was ridiculous. My favorite was one of the Eccleston daughters. Had a present wrapping room. A room dedicated to wrapping. Well, that was James. Been there. She brought the spelling estate. Yo, that's fine. Have you been there? No, no, I haven't been there. I haven't been there. Where else would you wrap presents? Well, that's the point. I. I would hate to wrap presents. Like in my kitchen. Kitchen table. Ridiculous. That's for food. You know, that's the goal in life. I have a friend that has a 40,000 plus square foot house in Connecticut. And you have to come up with things for rooms. Like you just have these rooms. So there was a plant. A plant potting room, like a gardening and. Yeah, all kinds of stuff. Otherwise you just have lots of room. Jay, your castle. Do you have extraneous rooms? The bathrooms I haven't flushed yet. Remember, it's a cottage, Matt. It's a cottage. It's not a castle. Well, you know, I bought it all for the three bears. Go. Yeah. You just turn key? Yeah. I knocked on the door and I said. I said, this house for sale? And the guy said, it is, but it's not listed. I said, we get the owner on the phone, and I bought. You were Jay Le at the time. You were not a nobody. It was seven years ago, still building his career. It was. It was cool. I mean, but I didn't want to look at swatches. Okay. Yeah, I think that kind of stuff drives me. I mean, you know, ketchup's in the refrigerator, salts in the salt shaker. Fine. Towels are still hanging. Love it. Take your pictures out of the frames and leave the frames. I actually. You can get bogged down by selecting every single bit of everything house. And then you don't have time to, like, drive stuff, ride stuff. People have told us that that is actually, like, the preference now. Everybody wants to just buy a thing that's done and move in. You're ahead of it. Yeah, yeah. They're called divorce guys. Couch, tv. Fine. There's a whole business. Because I remember years ago, I stayed in one of these because they got it for whatever reason, but they're like, if you're a corporate guy and you're going to be six months in, you know where the new plant is, the house is all set. Yeah. You move in. My dad got, like, a. Like a corporate housing, but it was actually a suite at the Ritz Carlton for, like, six months in Atlanta. That's pretty good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because he got a gig, and me and my sister were still, like, in school, and they didn't want us to move down there. Right. Like, yeah. We'll set you up. Ended up living at the Ritz Carlton for a summer. Sounds fantastic. All right. It's like Home Alone 2. Yeah. Yeah. Literally, a Dustin checks in. Great. Love without my parents. So that was the monkey. Jay. We're doing, like, a little. A little bit where we. We're asking our guests three. Three things. Yes. Sort of. So it's a pseudo, like, lightning round. All right, go ahead. We started this podcast in 2012. All right. Beginning of 2012. What were you doing in 2012? I was doing the Tonight Show. I was hosting the Tonight show until what year was you leaving? 14. Oh, yeah. So you were full speed ahead. Oh, yeah. You were also doing Jay Leno's garage. Right, right. The same time and touring. Right, Right. Guys, I remember when I first met you and you told me like what your, your, I think it was, you had. You were still doing tonight's show and you told me like, what your weekly schedule was, and I was like, my lord. Oh, it's not bad. You know, I like to have my time. You know, the great thing about doing a show every day is you write jokes until pencils down. We're up around in an hour. Pencils down. All right, I got stop now. So if it's good, okay. If it's bad, doing it once a week. Any free time, I'd be going, okay. I should be working on the show. I shouldn't have any free time, you know, So, I mean, I like that. Push you right up to the edge. Sure. Oh, that's, that's okay. Cool. I mean, that works for me. Yeah, I like. And the nice thing is if the show sucks, I got another one tomorrow. But, you know, you don't dwell on it. Oh my God, what happens? That's kind of how I think about our regular shows versus how I thought about this show. I was sweating about this show for a week and a half and the other shows, I couldn't care less. Okay, our question number two is, what is the best road trip you've ever taken? You know, I don't really take road trips. You know, I. Most of my cars leave my garage. They go in a big circle. Sometimes it's hundreds of miles and they go back to the garage. The odd idea of being in a hotel or somebody's touching my car, it's in the parking lot. I hear so many stories. People's cars disappeared in the middle of the night. A trailer took it away. Whatever something is. So if I'm driving something interesting like one of the Duesenbergs, I'll take that out and drive to Santa Barbara and then come back. But no, I don't really go and stay places. Fair. When you were starting or growing your career as a comedian, did you drive to gigs and do those kind of multi state road trip type things? You know, decades ago, I usually flew. Yeah, just had. I mean, in the 80s, I was the third most frequent flyer in the United States. Seriously? Whoa. Who was ahead of you? I don't know. But it's also the average flight that would have driven me nuts if they're like, congratulations, Mr. Leno, you're my goal to be a comedian, not to be the most avid flyer. Right? Yeah, but still. But you know, competitive people, come on. I don't Think I was ever more than an hour late on a plane? I mean, everything moved pretty smoothly in those days. Yeah. Now if a plane's not full, they come up some reason not to go or Iranians locked in the bathroom or. There's always something, something going on. You know what I mean? I mean, we can all. We can. We can relate, right? So. But no, I'm not really a road trip kind of guy because what I'm driving is way more important than where I'm going. Okay. You're like, to me, I don't do any of these California meal things. I don't want to have drinks at the so and so room. You know, I mean, can we just drive point A to point A? Can we drive for the 24 hours? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, that's what I'd rather do if I'm gonna go. Yeah. Because the other part, I don't really drink and. Oh, it's just some kind of fish heads on little matchbook covers or whatever they sell. I know exactly what you believe. Yeah, yeah. Stick to the road part of it. All right. What's the next question? This one, I mean, this one I'll be interested to hear you say. $10 million drops into your lap right now. You must spend it on cars by the end of the day. Could be anything, any number of cars. What are we buying? Oh, make 10 million bucks disappear on cars right now. I've actually had that. Oh, we're only limited to 10. You got really interesting. What you're saying is we're doing it on a budget. We have, we have quite the spectrum of. What would I. You have to restrain yourself a bit. What would I buy of the new W1 McLaren? Oh, okay. Interesting. Which I actually did buy. I'm sure you've got one. Yeah, yeah. Does it match the. Does it. Is it going to match the P1? Same colors or new color? No, I did. They look too similar. They don't get the same color. There's people that do. But I got the license plate. Oh, you do? I got F1, P1, W1. Nice. How does one get the plate before the car is built? How does one arrange that? Just luck, I guess, for people listening. You're going to want to go to 255 timestamp on the video right there. But what I bought, well, you know, see, I like. I like all kinds of car. I'm not a snow. You know what I drove the other day that I loved? I think you have one. Yeah, the. That three Cylinder Toyota GR Corolla. Oh, the GR Corolla. Yeah. I've had them as press cars. I don't own one. Johnny owns one. That's a. Oh, Johnny. Johnny's got one. Yeah. Yeah. They're rad. They're a good time. It was fun to drive. Nice car. Really handled well. Manual transmission. Yeah, I thought that was really good. You know, Zach and I were at Jerry's hangar last week and we're like, so what are you driving, Jerry? And he's like, Subaru S209. And we're like, what? And he's like, come on. And we go in the hangar and there's like, imagine a tic tac toe 3x3, right. $3 by $3 million Porsches in the. And in the middle is this Subaru SS. What? I got a Mazda RX8. Oh, yeah. And I love driving that thing. Best shifting car. They were fun. All day long they were fun. It's good. You know, I'm not a race car driver. I don't pretend to be. If I was going to race somebody, I'd rather be in a Miata. Yeah. As opposed to something. Because you're expected to win if you're in the. I don't want to be that guy that shows up at the track, you know, with the suit with it, the buttons are pulled apart because you're too fat for the racing suit. You know, you'll always see those guys. Oh, you ever see the guy wear the. Race it to the cars and coffee or something? Oh, yeah, yeah. Or to, or to like, like an autocross. I don't assume because I can afford something, I'm good enough to get it to do what it does. Sure. I mean, that's why I enjoy the F1 McLaren. I, I can't get anywhere near its potential because it is, it is. Well, but it's, it's. It's a fabulous car, though. You don't need to be. But it's so different. You have no try. You know, I was on the freeway and the guys. So downshift the third and I nail it and I slid right across two lanes. Does Michelin have like a new good tire for that or somebody have a good tire for that? Well, I think Pirelli was the original outfitter for the car. I got some Michelin's on it. It was fine. I love Michelin. You know, Michelins are the only tire that's round. I say that, that because other tires you mount, I got to put so many ounces more on them with Michelin's Half an ounce, maybe, isn't it? You know, they used to have a thing called a tire shaver. You know, I have some old cars, my. My 32 packard. And I go down the road and it starts shaking. I couldn't figure out what was wrong. And then a guy, an old guy said, oh, you need a tire shaver. And old guy's like, your tires ain't round, sir. You're like, what? That's like my cousin Vinnie. Well, this, this. I'm at the point where that old guy was younger than me, but I put it on it and he spins it and it took a half a pound of rubber. I had a. I. I had a fist of a chunk of rubber within the. Especially for tires for older cars. They don't really care. They assume they're just cars and coffee cars. You know, you don't drive them, so they're not really round. And it goes around and he's coming for the bottom of the problem. Took care of the problem. Wow. How's everybody doing in the. In the lounge, Johnny? All right. Gotta open the other bottle. All right. They're drinking in there. Okay. All right. Well, it's one. It's 1pm I don't know. Why not? Judgment. So now. And now are you like a junkie about shaving your tires? Well, I. I do. You don't have to do it on modern tires, of course. No, no, no. Just vintage tires. And to find the tool, you know, there's not many guys. We saw them doing it at Goodwood Festival of Speed. Yeah, the old, like, Formula one cars. It looks like you're. It looks like a goomba at the barbershop is doing it. I know. It's funny. It's funny. It's like those Formula One cars, you know, I remember when I was a kid and Alan Shepard went up in space, and then I went to the space museum and they had his capsule, and it looks like the size of a garbage can. I went, oh, that's pretty cool. Yeah. And then I went back, like 40 years later, and I go, I wouldn't get in that. But, you know, whatever technology live in. Yeah, it's the best. Well, you've seen like a Porsche 917 with the body off. You're like, are you kidding me? That is like, you know, I drove the. We just shot off my garage. It comes up on Monday. The Thomas Flyer that went around the world. Oh, get out of here. Fascinating stuff. Yeah. The story's incredible. Oh, man. They just. Just Unbelievable. Dollop about it. But at the time, that was like as about advanced as an Armberg could get people. I mean, it was fast. You could go 70 in it. Really? Yeah. A 519 cubic inch big motor, you know, four speed. Yeah. I mean, it went through Siberia. They had to take it apart. Look at this. Look at this car. It is amazing. And it's still in exactly that shape, and it's still. Wow. Chain drive. Who actually built this thing? Stadium seating. It was built by Thomas Flyer. Oh, that's the. A guy named Schuster. You know, it's so funny if you remember the TV show I Got a Secret. I know of its existence. It was on in the 50s and it was on the game show Never. I just happened to watch it and they had Shuster on, the guy who drove this because it was only 50 years earlier, you know. Not even 50 years earlier. Yeah, it was like. It would be like a guy from the 50s coming on now. Right. Buzz Aldrin going on TV shows like, wow. It drove nice, though. Oh, yeah, it drove great. Speaking of that, if you want to see something interesting, you Google I've got a secret Lincoln. Oh, God. You see an old man come out and his secret is he's the last living witness to the assassination of Abraham Lincoln and he's on tv. Television. I mean, you talk about shrinking time and go, oh, my God. No, there was a. What? There's a president. I want to say it's like John Tyler. Maybe there's a president that was like the 15th president or something, and his grandson is alive. Right, right. Like he had a kid at like 78. Right, right. And. And they. Yeah, yeah. That's funny. Oh, hello. Is T coming in? I know you. You. You're the Land Rover girl. I know you. I don't have to say anything. Yeah. Hi. Come on in. Take over. Come on in. Right, that's me. Yeah. Hi, I'm Matt. This is Zach. This is Jay Leno. Nice to meet you. Welcome. So nice. Hi, Jay. How are you? Hi. I believe it's the Land Rover woman. I believe. I can't say I've seen you on Instagram. This is all very official and very smart, isn't it? And have you just driven across America across a small to quite large proportion of it. Oh, cool. Not a Land Rover. Hi. And my wife is like, are you talking to a woman? She just looks through the door. Sorry, what portion? Sorry. Of America. Yeah, yeah. Colorado through Wyoming to Montana to Idaho, Utah. Now California. You know, I had these two guys call me. They go. Oh, Ms. Lana, we're driving an antique car across the United States. We want to end up in your garage. Can we get a picture for doing a book about. I said, yeah, okay. I was talking nice guys. What kind of antique car you driving? 68 Cadillac. I go, you know, my dad made that triple time. You're not really breaking ground here. But it's got air conditioning. It's got air conditioning. It's got a rail. I mean, that's an ant with this. To them, that was an antique car. Our friend. We do have friends who do. Period. Correct. Cannonballs. I don't even know what that is. It's a very. A very American thing. It's a race from New York to Los Angeles. It illegal underground sort of public road racing. There's a lot of tunnels to do that. All underground. No, like secret. Right, okay, sorry. I've already done four hours of radio, sir. And so they. They used to do it as a group, like, it became. It was a thing. Like 30 cars would go at once. And now people still do it, but they go one at a time. But once in a while, they do period ones where they do it in cars from the 70s. And then because the cars are just slow, you can pretty much just like openly street race them and it doesn't matter. So we're breaking any speed limits. Yeah, it just doesn't matter. Like, have you ever heard of, you know, Beetle Ball? Beetle Balls are a race in Volkswagen Beetles. No, because they're so slow, you can just openly street race them. It's good. Yeah. How did you. Are you friends with Sam? I am. Okay, cool. We met Silverstone and then he invited me on his podcast and we've kind of become friends since. Did road trips and stuff. And then he's out here and I'm out here, so we decided to hang out and you. And just stop by. What do you think of our little place here? Very smart. It's cool, isn't it? Yeah. My geography for LA is pretty horrific, but, yeah, the whole thing's quite cool. And there's really nice people. Where are you from in England? From south of London. What town? Like, near Southampton. Ish. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's me. Whereabouts do you live? Well, I live here in la. I was born in New York, grew up in Boston, but I've been here since the 70s. Jay's like the car king of Los Angeles, pretty much. I've heard, because I was. I spent the morning the other day with the lovely James May, who said, oh, James. Yeah, was Showing you his jeans. He bought some new jeans. Right, right. And he showed you his jeans. Did you like his jeans? Actually they're the same jeans I have because he bought them here. The idea of James May going, these are lovely. I'll have to show Jay and sending you a picture of his. He said, my jeans have ripped. So I went to Target and I bought some jeans and I had to show Jay because he would like my jeans. Well, you'll have to. Hopefully you don't have the same California experience he had. He came, came to this podcast and there was a 4.4. Oh, that was someone running down the stairs. There was a 4.4 earthquake during the show. Wow. And he. We got quite shaken. Oh, that was fun. Good radio shaking. He was like jet lagging. He's like, is that a real earthquake? We're like, yep, yep. Welcome radio. Does that happen often? Yeah, he's selling. There's a small one every day. Well, you don't drink. No, I don't drink. The gin is so good. Have you tried the gin? Oh, do you want to? We have so much. Well, he gave me some little taster packs and he was walking along and doing his piece to camera on the beach and I was like, you've got to cover the gin because you're not allowed to in this country at least. You can't just have booze rocking around. You can if it's closed. You can't have an open container, but you could walk down the beach with a closed bottle. Yeah, okay. But it looked either he kind just wandering around with his little bottle of gin. Obviously it was like to camera and everything, but it's quite a funny sight. Just if you don't know James May and you saw him wandering around the beach with a bottle of gin, you'd go, yeah. Attracts. Yeah. He's a quintessential Englishman. He just. Just says that. Yeah. Oh, he talk about 90 minutes of radio that did not disappoint. Was hanging out with that guy. Yeah, I love him. Everything about him is great. He's a great guy. He's a great guy. How quickly you've sort of, I mean, come kind of out of nowhere with your Land Rover project and now you're writing for the Intercooler, which is like pretty much the best place to be writing right now. Well, see, that's all a little bit random as well. That whole. I'm not a journalist, but I am going to have to learn pretty quickly. So I met the lovely Andrew Frankel at Grenadier Press drive. And then he invited me on the podcast and I was like, oh, this is quite like a legit podcast podcast. I don't really want to, I don't know, embarrass myself, whatever it was. But anyway, they were really lovely. And then they said we went to the pub and they were like, do you want to write for us? And I was like, whoo hoo. Okay, what do I say? But I think we'll just take each story as it comes and. Have they assigned you something or are you in charge of finding your own stories? They don't assign anyone anything. They say you do you. And well, you know, I've been writing for octane for 20 years and I thought, this is going to be possible. But after a while it really becomes second nature. You just report on what you. Exactly what you did. And I mean what you said here, where you're from, how you got here. But if you'd written all that down, it'd be just as interesting as you speaking it. The punctuation would be a little bit more. Well, see, I don't handle. I give that to them and they. Well, you have Andrew Frankel. He knows what he's talking about. They handle it. That's what I do. I write my column and then I hand it in. They do all the. The correct pronunciation. You write for other people too. I've read your. You have? Write Hagerty. Haggerty. And Sports car market. No, not sports car market, but just. I mean, I thought it would be just every month. Oh, God. But no, it's actually like this month I wrote about taking my countach apart. And people seem fascinated by just how complicated the stupid thing is. But you just sit down, you put the pen in your hand, you're find it'll become second nature. And has it taught you to. I suppose it has. Probably to write better. Yes, it does. And it's also, it gives you some discipline. I got. When I have spare time, I go, okay, like, I got a pool I've never been in. I've had the house for 30 years. I've never been. Because I get to the pool and I go, one of my favorite things about you is the pool you've never been to. Yeah. I go, okay, really? You got nothing else to do than sit in the water? Like, I'm from Boston. What are you going, you got to sit in the water? Is that what it. And okay, now I'm wet. Now what? So I go back and when I sit down and I write something as much as I hate sitting down to do it. Two, three hours goes by really quickly and. Oh, I produce something. Yeah, something people. You kind of just have to start. You just have to. Yeah, just start. The first one will be hard because. Where am I coming with? Sometimes easier to just give you an assignment. What do you like about land rovers? What do you like about them? And you have things as a child, I wrote my dad. Whatever it might be. Sometimes it's easier if you give yourself the assignment because you sit down. What's my first sentence? I don't know what to do, but just write what you know. I mean, to me, just your experiences, you know, a female with a Land Rover, blah, blah, blah. Whatever. It might be that. I think. I think that'd be interesting. It's pretty. That's sort of how you get started. My first paragraphs often become my second paragraphs of the finished piece. Like the first thing I write. I always end up going back and writing. Once I get to the end, I go back and I go, okay, I need a better ending to match up with this. But I actually do want to keep the thing. And it always, always becomes paragraph two. I suppose because it was. If you pre edit it too much before you write it, then you probably end up. Yeah, not having it. Jfmusual has arrived. We're going to have. No. Hey, what's up? Wait, we're gonna do. We're gonna do like seven more minutes this configuration and then I'm gonna take a quick bathroom break and we'll rejigger the studio. Stay tuned. Jf, I'm so glad you're here. Stay, Tati, stay. You have more questions for me? Do I have more or can I get out of here particularly? No, not, not particularly. I was just. I'm happy to see you. I. No one told me you were coming, so I didn't prepare. I don't even know who invited you. I'm happy they did, but whoever did, thank them. I'm happy. Well, I called Spike to see what was going on. Oh. And he said, wow, I didn't mean to just show up. No, no, you're always. You are always. And I invited you to do the show a couple weeks ago. Ago. And then we both, we both got busy. But no, you said. I said, what are you driving recently that you like? And you said you're countach. But we never circled back to that. It did start in a great story, but what else are you driving this week that you like? Huh? What else do I drive? You mean new things? Not Necessarily. What did you look at and go, I'm gonna have a little of that this week? Oh, you know what I took out? I have a 65 Max wedge Plymouth. Okay. It's a 426. Not the Hemi head. 426 with. Is it pre Hemi. Pre Hemi. The year before. Yeah, yeah. It's like a drag car, right? Like a factory. It's like a stock car. Yeah, yeah. But no power sting, no power brake. It's so much fun. I mean, it's got so much fun. No power steering in a front engine. Muscle car. It just. You see why they're called muscle cars. Yeah, yeah. Give you muscles. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah. But yeah, you know, and it was so quick, you just touched the gas. You know, in America, horsepower cures any problem because most. Most 60s and 50s, they didn't stop, they didn't go around corners. But boy, there it is. That's mine right there. Right here. The black one. What color? What color? Red. I put in. Put in Lenos, add his name. You got SEO Gold in the room, my friend. We can just have. Add Leno to everything. And we've got. There it is. There it is. Oh, it looks good. Oh, that. Your wheels are way better. Your wheels are better. I like the dog dish hub. Yeah. We've got the cop. Cop vibe. Yeah, yeah. No power steering in that thing. No power steering, no power. That's okay. Once you're making. You know, it's so funny when I let young people by. Young people, guys under 40 drive my cars. They go, sing stop to get press. I'm pressing the brake. Just press harder. Because, you know, I think young people grow up so much with power brake. Very true. Touch it, you know, and he's like, I said, just use. Use both feet. And he went, oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. But you'll get used to it. Yeah. It's just funny. My friend drove my Land Rover down a hill in Switzerland. She can't drive, but pretend I didn't do that, whatever. And I thought, oh, this will be fine. She's going downhill. She doesn't really need to change gears or anything like that. She'll be fine. And I forgot about the horrific brakes and that you've kind of had to pump them a bit and go, what year Land Rover 1985. Oh, oh, okay. She almost real. Real Land Rover because of the brakes. She didn't realize. Yeah, I can deal with. I can deal with the power. No power brakes, but no power steering in a front engine Car is tough have you driven any of the really vintage, like a 51, those Land Rovers? Yeah, the classic ones, the little series ones and that. That lot. Yes. It's a four cylinder that gets the gas economy of a V12. Yeah. I don't understand. It's slow. Why is it using all this gas? Those rings must not be very tight. Yeah, it's hilarious. I'm thinking, oh, my God, I gotta fill a tank again. I thought that one of the benefits would be 40 miles per gallon. You know, it's funny. That's what I said about the Mazda RX8, which you brought earlier. Well, that tells you has the fuel economy. Yeah. So light as well. There is really no need for them to be so inefficient. Yeah, that's right. I mean, it's light. It's light, it's slow. It says it's slow. There's no horsepower. Yeah. I'm not a big fan of Land Rovers. They're great if you're your sized. If you're me, my left arm does not have a place you've got to go in a nice sunny day so you can get your arm. So I can really be hanging out of chancing out the person the next. Yeah, it's not. In fact, we. You know, you said you met Sam on that INEOS launch. I tell people now when they go, I'm thinking about getting an old Land Rover. I said, just get an ineos. That's really kind of what you want. It's. Yes, it definitely has a lot more modern mod cons. Yeah. It's just more comfortable. Well, I don't know. Yeah. I used to think that the seat was really, really, really comfortable. I've had quite bad hip problems. I do generally a bit anyway, but I think it's because you drive a Land Rover. No, Land Rover's fine. I've done like 14 hours straight from Switzerland back to England in my land Rover. About 43 miles an hour. Totally fine, this car. And I put one of my friends in the other day and they can't fit in the seat like the seats. And my hips are really sore from it and I've done a lot of hours in that car. Oh, do you mean the lower cushion and the angle that it's on the seat's like this. So your legs are up, but your hips. If you're gonna get a physio about it, your hips are really compressed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's fine if you put in cruise control, but then cruise control's a bit lurchy. That happens in sports cars a lot. It probably shouldn't happen in SUVs. No, probably not. No. But it's weird having all of the. Doing a road trip in a car with all of the buttons and all of the mod cons because sometimes they work, sometimes they don't work. And if they don't work, I'm just like, well, just ignore them and whatever. But it's. I wouldn't say it's any. It feels safer doing a road trip in a car that works. But I wouldn't say it was any necessarily easy. You just took a longer drive to drive. I'll tell you what, it's easy. It's when you're in a Range Rover, when you're in a range. When you're doing it in a rangy, then you're old or new. New. The best Range Rover is always the newest Range Rover. Always. I have not spent a lot of time in any new or old Range Rovers. The old ones definitely took. Got my fancy. Well, we're. Because now you have a job for the intercooler. We're going to get you in one. So weird because also I've been like camping around and not, not like with anybody. Yeah. So then for you to be like, oh, you do this for this. I'm like, yes, this is actually what I'm doing now. Now you have a career. Welcome. Land Rover and Range Rover. Good club. Connected. Land Rover is the big company. Range Rover is the model. The. The model variant. Oh, I see. Okay. It's the same. That's same company. Yes. It's the luxury Land Rover. They saved the company back in the 70s, whatever it was. I very much have to use the restroom. Jay, we can have. We can. You can head out if you want. We thank. We appreciate you. I'm doing a. I'm in the middle of an eight hour live stream. Yes. So I. I can't really. Thanks for having me. I can't really go over. Sorry. I just popped in everything. I'll watch for your written pieces. Zach. I'll hold. I'll hold it down for a minute. Can we. Can you. Can you go grab reinforcements? Tati, stay. Stay for a second. Do you need a Wii though? I do, but I'll wait till. I'll wait till we have cycles. Sit wherever. Thank you so much, Jay. We really appreciate it. Jay Leno. How about that Television host extraordinaire. And then there were two. How you doing? How you doing? How you doing? How long are you in LA for? Till this afternoon. Oh, But I was thinking about extending my flights and then they told me it was £600. That's probably to leave them. I was like, just heading home. Heading home. But I am plotting my way of staying in America forever. Well, now's the time. No, it's. It's all right. Here. We. We don't have to deal with a lot. You American? Born and bred. Yeah. Yeah, From New York and I moved here. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, Johnny's back. Yeah. You usa. But I've traveled. I've traveled to Europe and other places a lot more than other people. Yeah. I've filled passports. Have you? I have filled a passport, yeah. Speaking of filled passports, this is JF Tati, have you met JF Before? JF Mugel is in the house. JF Has. JF Is probably the most frequent flyer that I know, period. Lives. Lives in airports. Knows everything about how to fucking get points. He's a producer. Makes films and videos and he was my first producer. Oh, and producer, director. I don't even know. Producer, director. I don't know, something, something. But now he's here. We were here. You got on a plane to get here? No, I actually was in Las Vegas for the past three days and I drove out. Yeah, I was gonna fly home and I was like, this worked out perfectly. I drove in. Yeah. Were you in Vegas for Pizza Con? No, it was. Oh, you were shooting B roll for the car I went to drive. Yes, yes, yes. For E. Tron. Not B roll, but something else. GT performance. Yes. Man, it's so weird to see you wearing glasses as much as you do now. Doesn't it make me look smarter? It's not just that. I think it really does. It reminds me of like old days with you. Old days? Yeah, Just the idea of like, you look young. I look young. Yes, you do. Like this. Yes, you do. Oh, with a white beard and glasses. I don't think I look young at all. Do you know that me and Zach are the same age? No comment. We really are. How's it been going? It's been going great, but I have to. As Tati put it, we. Yeah, yeah. Will you excuse me for a minute? Zach, here's. Hey. It's the whole. So, J.F. nice to meet you. Yeah, yeah. Have you been going non stop and you don't think. Well, you just walk out? Yeah. Okay. You don't have a. Run out of things to say? What once have they run out of things to say? I just got here, so I don't know. I haven't. Well, you wouldn't run. No. But what did you not run out of Things to say? Well, that's why we propped it up with so many guests. So we can keep asking people questions, rotate them in and out. If it was just he and I for eight hours straight, we would probably run out. How random. As the topics got. Oh, all over the map, for sure. I mean, random car stories, unrelenting related things, Zuckerman's business, all kinds of. Hello. Hi. The audience will be very happy with this change. No, we're still. We're never stopping. I just walked into this. I don't know what the. You can sit down. Matt went to the restroom. Oh, my God. He's. Notes. He's so prepared. He's. Yeah, we got questions. He's had those notebooks going for, like, 15 years. He must have, like, a whole collection. He has, like, 50. Yeah. And 25 of them are empty. And then he'll go, I want a different one for the next one. Do you ever go through what's. What's in them? No, I'm not doing that. That seems like an invasion of privacy. It's mostly to do lists for the whole day. Okay. That's really what it is. But there's also lots of questions. Amelia Hartford. Welcome back. Nice to see you. You haven't been here for a little while. It's been a minute. Yeah. Yeah. But you've been like, doing movie things and all kinds of other shit. Keep them busy. Sorry, I just hijacked your guys's. I literally just walked. I literally just came for a gift to drop off and say congrats, and I had to leave. He's like, no, no. Two seconds. Pop on, say hi. So this is me saying hi. Fantastic. Thank you so much for coming by. Of course. I'm going to put this here so I'm not just asmr. Ing in the mic. This is the sound of potato chips being made. I'll wait till Matt gets here to pull. To open that up. It's just a bottle of wine. Okay. Yeah. Surprise ruined. Damn it. It's okay. Just don't tell him. I'm sure he knows. No. Lovely to meet you, but I see stuff on the Internet. Oh, I. Oh, my God. Thank you. Interneting things. Yes. I'm Amelia. Lovely to meet you. Tati. Oh, right. That part of the. That's part of the introduction. Zach. I handed it off to you. You didn't help, as usual. Okay. Yeah. We worked together for, like, six. I was gonna say. I love this finger pointing. Let's Blame. I think we've known. It's 15 years. I've known you since 2010, but I worked for you for eight years. Whatever. Long, long time. Zach and I bonded on a road trip cross country. Well, I got kidnapped. I got invited to do a road trip, but it was a job interview. It included a hotel stay. Power me on. Am I on? Oh, you're on. You feel like it's about karaoke. What's your song of choice? I'm so happy. Amelia's here. A treat. Yeah, everyone's here. Thank you so much for coming. Of course. I had to come support you. I wish I could stay longer, but it's a. You're doing huge things right now. Oh, my God. Thank you. That means a lot. Modeling, you're good premieres. And by modeling GT4 40 builds, you got records with Nissan Z's. What, did you run the quarter mile on that car? That was December 18th, I believe. And no. And what was the. What was it? There was a 775 at 181 at the quarter mile. I'm actually going back on Tuesday. Is that shifting? Do you need to shoot? No, no, no, no, no. It's a turbo four. Oh, thank you. Ice boy is here. Do you have to use parachute for that? Yeah. Whoa. Yeah. It's the first time ever using a. My first. What does that feel like? Well, my first time using it, the car got sideways. I never used a parachute before. Oh, shoot. How fun is that? So cool. But I had never used one before, so I didn't know if the car got sideways if I would have that muscle memory to pull the chute. Car get sideways. Thank God. My first thought was shoot. But, like, I want to go. Yeah, shoot. Yeah. Gosh darn it. I went to go reach the handle, but the car was sideways, so I had to grab the wheel again, and then I had to go back for the handle. So now I'm gonna use a button on the steering wheel. In fact, I'm gonna wire it to the horn. So when I hit the horn, the shoot goes. That's awesome. I submitted for this. This month's issue of Road and Track was the bucket list issue. So I submitted a whole bunch of ideas of, like, things that you want to do, and one was pull. You know, pull a chute on a dragster. I actually got to do that at Bonneville. So sick. I did 14 miles an hour in a Jetta. Oh, my God. And it was two shoots. It was two handles. That's so cool, because it was front Wheel drive. You were actually. You stay in the throttle, pull the chute to stabilize it and then you lift. Oh, interesting. It was nuts. Yeah, because drag racing, everything's rear wheel drive. I didn't even think about that. So the super bird I'm building right now, I actually want to hit 200 Bonneville with that. Good luck. No, it's. No, for sure. It's scary. You know what? No, I mean, even though I was in a Jetta, you didn't even notice the speed until you got to like a buck 80. Yeah, it was nothing. There's no reference points. Yeah. If you get to like the top of fifth gear, it was like, like no big deal at all. And then what it felt all of a sudden to 2:15 was like mildly hairy. Yeah, yeah, mildly hairy. The problem is like, if you get out of the groove and off the groomed surface, you can dig in. It was cool. It had a literal, like in where the passenger seat was, was a literal chest of ice. And that was the intercooler and they had to dump the ice every time. It was like 50 gallons of ice. And it was good for one run. I love it. Yeah, it was awesome. Race car things, race car show, total race. Yeah, it was great. Everything else good with you? No, everything's good. Everything's great. No complaints. Good. Yeah, good, good. Thankful to do what I do every day for a living. Aren't we all? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's actually like, like YouTube and stuff is like going bad for the rest of us. Is it not the case for you? Yeah, that reaction tells the story. Oh, good. Yeah, I'm very fortunate. My views are kind of at an all time high right now. Really? Damn. Good for you. Well, I'm not jealous at all. Well, if I can, if I can help, let me know. We need more drag cars. No, last time you were here we had like, we were stuck at like 995,000 subscribers for like a while. Yeah. And you did an Instagram and we within like two hours got to the million. That was so cool. And then when I came back, you had the plaque, the plaque on the wall. They make you actively check for that and it takes months to get. It takes months to get. Well, and apparently Tick Tock does it too. Oh, really? And I had no idea. And I still don't have mine, but whatever. Well, do you have to apply and. Yeah. Hey, yeah, so you know, I'm on your platform. I think you, once you get to whatever the milestone is, you have to then say yes. I Would like a physical plaque. Can you say, I've got there in five seconds or three? I got to the Marlin very spirit, speedy time. I don't know. Is that a thing? Do you have a record? No, I don't have any records. Okay. Do you have a record with getting to a certain milestone in period of time? No, I don't think so. It's always just been a slow climb. Yeah, it has. Yeah. Except some of us aren't climbing. We're just. That's not true. Don't say that, Rip. Don't say that. No, no, no. We're just, you know, we're the old guys now, so it's okay. I don't believe that. I don't believe that. I wouldn't say old guys. It's all right. We're parking cars over there. Experienced, Matt. We're experienced. We're very experienced. Can't you see the experience? You guys pay, you guys walk. So we could run. That's true. Yeah. JF was the first through, like, seven walls that the next people made, like, huge fortunes on. It's gonna be soon. Yeah. We. Me, J.F. in some cases, with my help, got. Got kicked in the teeth 19 fucking times so they could become billionaires. Okay. I will say my favorite video on the Internet still lives to this day. And it's you and Rob seeing who can get a speeding ticket first. You know what's so crazy about that? That's like blowing up again right now. Right now, every six months. This clip, there's a clip that gets circled of me being pulled over by the police. And the cop says to me, like, what were you doing? And I said something like. I think that was a reasonable place to pass at the time. I'd passed it on the shoulder. My friend and I had a ticket to see who could get a contest. So you get a ticket first intentionally? Yeah. It's not something you should be doing. Well, a bit here. It's not points in your license, is it? No, it is real. And it was bad. It was all bad. It was very. You shouldn't do this. At least you got, you know, points in some way. Good points. We got. Yeah, lots of points. Yeah, yeah. It pays every day without money. Yeah. The full video is like 35 minutes long. And there's, like, a lot to it, but it's just that 30 second clip that gets circulated with my sideburns. Yo, they were fired. Do you let my chair. No, no, I'm okay. I. I actually need to go. I really only had a Second, thank you for whatever's in that bag and for being a great friend. Zachary ruined this, even though I couldn't say it meant so much for me to bear the traffic and come here just to give you a hug. That's. Congratulations. That race ratio that you came all the way over here just to say hi. More time will be spent in the car. But it's like a press trip. No, no, it's like flying 30 hours, drive two laps and then go home. Unbelievable. Thank you for coming. Congratulations on a thousand. And then you can. And then you can go back into traffic. Enjoy the wine. Oh, thank you. We love you so much. Drive safe. Of course. Oh my God. Timing. Okay, you guys have a great day. Take care. Good singing. Drive safely. Oh, will you pass me my beverage, Shaft? Okay, Tati, before we send you back to the UK and on your way, we're gonna have you ask you the three questions that we're asking everybody. Okay. Very easy. We started this podcast in 2012. We've done a thousand of them. What were you doing in 2012? I was at school. I. Oh, I was at school having a great, great time. Like sixth grade. In what grade are we talking about? I was 10. Okay. Yeah. So that wasn't far off. So you were chilling. You were at recess. I was having a great time. I think. I think that might have been the year that we found a bat in drains and I. I put the bat in a hamster cage and I think I had a few hamsters then. It's great. We had a couple of dogs. It was lovely. Whereas the rat cage started the plague. The hamsters, I think it either died or. Or we found a separate cage for the bats. Wanted to see if they became friends or did. Yeah, no, they were just gone one day. We can't really prove that. Got real big. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Best road trip ever. Yeah, that I've done or would dream to do ever. No, that you have done. Oh. Summer 23. Uh huh. Before any of the Internet happened. And my life, freaking best time ever. Just rocked around in my Land Rover for two and a half months. Had friends coming in and out, broke down every four days. Nobody knew what I was doing, where I was going. I didn't have to communicate with anybody or say anything or take any photographs or anything. And we just drove around, explored with total freedom and peace and fumes and breaking down in Greece and delight. Did you have a destination or were you just all over Europe or just kind of. Yeah, so I would drive to an airport with a Friend, drop them, pick up a new friend and kind of relay it that way. And then we ended up going from France down through northern Italy and then back up through Dolomites. Sick. That's great. Yeah, that's fantastic. That was summer. That's a good road trip. Don't forget about doing that now that you are a professional at doing that. What? Going. Going on a road trip and not talking to anyone about it. Yeah, don't forget to like do the thing for fun also. Well, this is the whole plan about this. Was it. Was that and then. Yeah, just do it for fun. It's the fun balance of how do you do that? It's hard. I just did a two week road trip with my wife at the beginning of the year and I didn't have to make content and we didn't have a schedule. We drove from Atlanta all the way back here and you know, it wasn't the most indirect thing, but we got to stop at a ton of national parks in Colorado and Utah and we didn't have a schedule to adhere to, so we went, oh, we'll stay here for, for another day and see more shit. And it is hard when this, when that activity becomes your job to then do it for fun. But it is important and I think if you can hang on to that, do so. I don't do a lot of car things for fun anymore, but the ones that I do where I really make it about fun become very fun. Yeah, that's one of my biggest regrets is not stuck. Yeah, I got stuck into the whole kind of like doing my hobby and my passion as a career, and I forgot what my hobby and my passion was. And it's one of my biggest regrets. It doesn't take long to be able to get to. Literally, it's like a day. You just like, oh, I just need a day to do. I know, I know. But it. One day turns into a week, turns into a month, turns into a year. Welcome to 15 Years Later. That's. Yeah, I regret that he has a. He has a real problem with work life balance. That's true. You shouldn't. You should keep. I'm on the extreme side of arms. Keep him at arms. I'm on the extreme side. This was my passion. This was everything. And I turned it into a career. And I just kept doing it, kept doing, because I never wanted it to go away. I was like, I love it so much. But then I realized it is, wait, this has consumed me way too much. And I will defend you where it's the volume of work. Of work transformed from your hobby that then obscures the hobby. I don't work as much as you, but we do a lot of this stuff and it can still take away the part of your brain that goes. That's my hobby. Yeah, yeah. You don't even have to be as dedicated as you are. Yeah. All right. This one, this one. Maybe I don't know how this is going to land with you, but let's just say you are given unlimited money to buy your dream vehicle. What is it? I kind of already have it. It's, it's, it's my Land Rover. And I would take the money and say thank you very much and run away very quickly. Go to a parts shop, buy all the parts and put them all in my Land Rover and with a like a little micro mechanic in a box that knows all the things that I don't know and, and, and, and then just drive around. But if it. Because my Land Rover is great because it can do everything and go everywhere I want to go. But if I was to play ball with your question a bit more and say, right, okay, I'll buy a whole car that actually works like a reliably amount of the time. Oh, I really like an Austin Healey at the moment. That's your cool looking car that works all the time? Yeah, why not? It's a brand person. It's so sweet. What kind of English person are you that you think that's a reliable car? Well, because I would buy a really expensive one that would work. That's true. I did say unlimited money. No guarantee. Those things are related. Let me assure you. They also. People there also built and designed those cars originally when they didn't work all the time and they were like this is the best. So I think she's right in line. There would be no. The whole modern supercar thing doesn't fuss me. Yes, it sounds really fine. But they just. I didn't expect you to say that. What you really wanted was a 3 million dollar Ferrari. What she really said was mechanic in a box. Like that is. Yeah, it's not about the car, but how much does a slave cost that knows about landlord retired employee. For $9 million you can have a riding mechanic. That riding mechanic is built the car. You have the engineer, you have the original engineer rider. The more I get though exposed to all of the new fun stuff that works with buttons, then that does become quite exciting and slightly appealing in its own sense. I drove a macan GTS the other day. I was like. Oh, but that was a tree, wasn't it? Yeah, that made fun noises. There's a reason that once people start driving Porsches, they don't really go back. Yeah, yeah. Porsche doesn't lose a lot of people. Oh, and I also get Mustang. I'd get a lot of cars that I take all of your unlimited money and get a lot of different cars up. But I do want a Mustang as well. Which one? What year? Like a new one or an old one? A red one. That's the just okay. 70s convertible. Red Mustang 2 or the good one? I don't really know. But I want a cool red one if it doesn't steer very well. That's very long. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, the long nose. The long nose is 70s. Get a better one. The big schnoz. Oh, scalp. You like garbage. They're the worst built cars in the history of cars. I respect it. But man, do you like awful cars. No, I don't want one that looks like that. Show her. Like a 66 convertible. She doesn't, she doesn't really want one of those ones. Not one of those. Almost, but not quite. How about like late 60s convertibles? What is it about that one you don't like? I. I'm not quite entirely sure, but I think the grill's in the wrong place. It's the wrong place. It's in the front of the car. Well, that one, that one is like a base, little one that's six cylinder that has like, you know, no balls. Well, if you want. Yeah, six or the 68 convertible. That one. 68, yeah. All right. Yeah. 68 convertible. Yeah. Okay, great. Yeah. See, the grill's in. Sure. Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah. Oh, it's recessed. Yes. Because the hood overreach has got more lean to it. Okay, totally. So what you, what you want is a 67 to 69 Mustang, minus those wheels. But yeah, we have a couple of them here downstairs. Really? Do you not on a chrome wheel, man. Very. Jerry, what were you doing in 2012? What were you doing in 2012? Not having chromes. No, people like Chrome's like 2000 to 2010. Right. A lot of these cars ended up on chromes and not great. But that whack. That wheel design, it's like the five spoke mag is classic. Always good. But they look better in like gray. The torque style wheel. Yeah, that's an intense name. If you get a scout, just change the engine torque. That's what we do here. You know, it's funny, it hasn't occurred to me before, but, like, that's America. Yeah. What do you want to call it? Torque Thrust. That is word salad. Yeah. Well, our names are really silly for stuff, but, like, 1980s Japanese vans take stupid names to the whole other level. My wife has a mitSubishi Delica, except seed Turbo D that says on the front of it the Special gear for 4x4 runners printed on the car. A lot of words. Yeah. Yes. There are also your road signs. I will leave. Sorry. Your road signs. Very, very long and very, very explanatory. And so, like, give way to the pedestrian. In England, that's a triangle. Here is a triangle with an arrow with a person saying, give way. Yeah. Because if you don't spell it out, it's not gonna happen. Yeah. No, we are. And it said. It said, if it's flooded, don't drive through here. We don't want you to drown. But, like, literally, word for word, and you could just say, warning, flood. No, no, you can't. No. Because here, what you. When you see a sign like that, that means that for decades they had a sign that said flood and it didn't work. Someone saw that, ignored it, and we have to say, what about the balloons? Again, doesn't just mean that there's a flood, because there's no language barriers in this country. Everyone speaks the same language, but the comprehension varies quite significantly, even with pictures. Picture books are challenging to some of us. Right, yeah. Education. See what happens. Or it's a situation of someone got sued and they're like, oh, we need. We need. Because someone made a mistake. Most of our dumbest laws are written in the blood of our dumbest people. They're very litigious. Yes. Yeah. Litigious is a great word. Yeah. No, so, like, the way things work. Like, Like. Like in Europe, they make things, like, safe and then educate people. Here, they just build shit however they want and they decide it's unsafe after enough people die and the company is sued out of existence. Zuckerman's outside going, exactly. And I'm doing the suing. If we make it too safe, I can't buy any more cars. Need, like, a proper whole driving license because all the children are driving. I saw a 15.15year old in a. Like a GMC the other day. I was that. Which state were you in? Yeah, it depends on what state. Yeah, yeah. Provisional. Yeah. It's for design equipment, but it's not really, like, regulated or patrolled in any way. But also, some of those states have so few schools across. So much. So many Miles that like a kid might have to drive themselves to school at age 15 because their parents can't because it's 100 miles away. Yeah. So it's designed for that. Yeah. Which I, I guess makes sense. It's just quite terrifying because also you can drive the ginormous trucks as well. That too, yeah. If you're a literal infant. Yeah, if. Yeah. It's crazy. Not only that, like you don't need. Have you seen, you know like the huge American style RVs? Most of those you do not need any kind of license to drive if it's privately owned. I was at the Mint 400 in Vegas. Oh yeah. This is the start of the trip. And those trucks were just like. But because it was also. Obviously all the trophy trucks were there, but then everybody who likes trophy trucks were coming in all their trucks. So there was like the world's largest congregation of massive suspension and tires in Vegas. And that was. Yeah, I could see lots of 14 year olds driving big old things. It's wild. I think in my theory, if you have one of those licenses, you could go to other states too. And by definition you could have. I think once you're licensed, you're licensed. A 15 or 16 year old could end up New York where it's at 18, you know, so just like if you're driving a car that's shadily registered in whatever state you drive it. Wait, you can't drive till 18 in New York? In New York City. Yeah. It's different. New York City license is different. Oh, wow. New York City license is different in New York State. But like most New York City kids like don't get licenses. Yeah. There's no point. There's nowhere to drive. Yeah. There's nowhere to drive on the subway. Subway. It's actually faster. Yeah. So I can understand it. Anyway, I am going to kick you out now. Cycle it. It's so nice to meet you. Thank you for coming. Yeah. Look forward to seeing more stuff on Intercooler in LA for a gig. Make sure you look us up and come say hello. Sam will make the introduction. Look you up in the encyclopedia. Yes, on the Internet. It's where you find us. Come meet you all. Come see us. You're podcasting. Thank you. We will so much talking. Thank you. Bye Bye. Taji. Pleasure. Lovely woman. I don't know who she is. She got real well. Yeah. Because Sarah and introduced us, but maybe I shouldn't. She got pretty big in the last year for the thing she said, which is being a person who bought an old Land Rover and learned how to road trip it and fix it and shit in basically real time. And now. Oh, no way. 500,000 followers. Instagram followers. And got a job writing for the Intercooler. Oh, I actually. Never mind. Yeah, okay. Yeah, that did not. That did not click for me. Okay, cool. Well, the good thing is she's listening to the show right now. 30 second delay. @ least they're talking loud. Anyway, shout out to Louie Louie, the unofficial official sponsor of this. This is my friend's company and they make this delightful THC soda. I was looking at your stuff on your What? My station. When he walked out, I referenced his actress. How organized you are. I need Larry Chen. If someone in the. I see him, he's right in the hall. I sense. Larry, Larry, do you want to jump in? Get in. That's what we need. Larry Chen. Oh, the two of us. I'm so happy you're here. Larry Chen on radio. Thank you for coming. I'm so, so sorry to keep you waiting. No, no, no, it's okay. Congratulations. People seem to be chilling out there. Yeah, no, this is you. This is I. It's so funny. I came in here. Jacket. Your jacket have a tag on it still? Yes, it does. Neck, right? Yeah, yeah, you have. Okay, cool. You know, it's new return that I. First of all, congratulations. And then it's interesting, you've assembled this really who's who of Southern California car culture. It's really a writing very haphazardly. It worked out. Yo. But you do something that's far greater than most people. You're actually a great producer, like putting events together. And your wife as well. Like your 40th was great because it was like so well planned out. I know, but you too, you are very organized beyond the scenes. And you texted me like a month and a half ago about this. I did get it going ahead of time. Yeah, yeah. Same. Same day. I have the list of everyone I texted you and Larry were right. One after the other. So nice to see you. Yeah, it's good to see you. I saw that you were. I really wanted to talk to you about what I think was your visit to the Rainbow Chic. Oh, yeah, yeah. That and you got to go out in that crazy weird mustang thing. Yes, the ram must. Which is I think. Bye, Sam. Love you. Sorry, sorry. People coming and going. I think it's a Ram 2 ton truck. Yeah. With a 2015 Ford Mustang on the right side. Look at this fucking thing. No, there on the right. Oh, yeah. You've seen this? This is a. Yes, I rode in it. I could have driven it. I should have asked to drive it. But you know how it drives. It drives like a Ram. Whatever. It's not a. Yeah. You know the thing is the quality of the builds, Habibi. Like so good. Really, really good. It's fucking crazy looking. They have the money to spend on this stuff and thank goodness they spend it on car culture stuff. Right. And wait, is this the same dude who has the huge trucks? It is, right? No. So it's the same family. It is. Okay. But it is not the same person. So the funny thing is the other person. Look, the engine bay is so big. I show up at the engine bay. Look, it's so big that I can actually crawl into the engine bay. And I did. Look, see, that's me in the engine bay. So yeah, it is cool. This individual has so many incredible cars and they're doing a museum which is going to be really cool. So it's open to the public. And the Sheikh that built this drives this. But who built it? So it's the uncle of this individual that I met, Sheikh Khalifa. He's like a younger guy who drifts, who is into car culture. But the uncle likes to build these weird things. And then so the uncle took this just this year to the Lewa festival where they go up these crazy sand dunes. Yeah. So then that's like the cruiser car, you know, that's just like his shit to roll around top down in the Mustang. Ram. Mustang. They call it the Ramus. I feel like it should have been called the Must Ram. Yeah. Talking about the Ramus is a. Is a. I feel like they need to workshop that name a little more. It's pretty close to Ramstead, which was the James May motor. Mustard gin. Oh yeah. Roomstood. It's Mustard backwards. Yeah, yeah. Do they have. What else was in that garage? I saw a lot of trucks, like the last ever air cooled Volkswagen ever. Is it a bus? No, it was Beetle made in Mexico. It was like a 2007. Yeah. It was up until the mid 2000s that they start. Yeah. But it wasn't even broken in, just delivery mode miles. Everything wrapped in plastic. A lot of 70s series and older Land Cruisers again wrapped in plastic delivery miles. Just stuff like that that you wouldn't be able to see. Yeah. And I think it's interesting because, you know, a lot of people like to hate on this. I've been reporting a lot on this type of car culture, but I think to Myself, like, what do you want me to do? Do you want me to just feature $500 builds? Backyard builds, like poor people builds or rich people build? Or like, what do you want me to do? Like, is it everything in between? You know, these individuals love these cars. People that embrace variety, which I think you and I do. That's not always, like, how the audience sees it. They're always like, I came to you. Cause I saw you do this thing. Now do more of that. I think we're a bit jaded in the sense of, like, we see so much, but recognizing that we are the conduit of things that people don't get to see. Like, that's kind of the part of it. Right. And like, that's crazy. Like, I understand that's what people want to see because that's aspirational, you know, And I get it. Look, their argument is like, oh, well, why can't they help the poor? Instead of. I mean, what do you want me to do here, guys? I'm reporting on car culture. Yeah. And the best and some of the worst. And it's not like you're interesting doing those other things. Yeah, I'm trying to show everything, Larry. That's the thing. People getting mad because you show the rich habibi's crazy. Get out of here. Dude, that thing is cool. It's super. Unless that guy. And I don't. I don't know anything about the person behind it, but unless that person's doing war crimes or something, and I don't know about it. So, you know, look up this thing. And somebody else in their family built the really narrow Jeep. Jk. And the really wide one. You've seen that, right? The narrow one is hilarious. Yeah, they just love weird things that make you think, and it's like their imagination. Someone in the family is rainbow chic. Or no, the guy who has the giant power Wagon. So I went. Yes, I went to that place too. I don't know what the connection is. I don't know. The. My. Jeez. What are we doing? What? The double width Wrangler and then the narrow one. The narrow one. The narrow one. Is that so cool? They're just limited by imagination. It's art. It's. It's like their form of art. It's their form of art. Kill at Burning Man. Look how cool. Looks like a Caterham Jeep wrangler. That's cool to us, but it's also super cool cool to them, and that's why they built it. Yeah, it's hilarious. You Know, we could only dream of this stuff. I love that. I love this. Who is the famous artist? This was, I don't know, 10 years ago, but he was known for like his posters and stuff. And then it was found out that he just conceives the ideas and then he has like a team that would make them. Shepard Fairy. Yeah, yeah. So people would kind of get mad about that. Like Jeff Koons does that too. Like, that's all artists at that. A lot of, A lot of heavy. Dale Chihuly, famously with the glass, you know, has a staff of people doing it. Yeah, that happens. The main thing is I don't pretend to know anything about the hierarchy or where they stand in the royal family or whatever. I. They try to explain a lot of that stuff to me, but it just went over my head. All I say is I just care about the fact that they spend their time and effort and money on cars that we love, love. And they're super humble and they're so much fun to hang out with. So much fun to drift with, all of that. And, and that's what I love. Yeah, that's that I can't get over that single seater Jeep. That's. That's. It's very cool. It's so cool. Right? Like, I want to drive that. It looks like it hasn't been driven in a while, but that is a shame. That's the thing is if you look up Ramus, all of the most recent are articles were from just my Instagram posts of me rediscovering this car. Right. When this it was first built. I remember seeing it like seven years ago. Somebody posted some pictures of it and then those got shared across the Internet and then it got put away. Yeah. And then so I just happened to be in the UAE for the F1 finals and I just started hitting up my contacts. I was like, hey, what's cool to shoot? What's cool? What's cool to shoot? And then I met up with my buddy who's a sheik, his name is Sultan. He drifts all over the world. And I'm like, hey, can I, you know, shoot with your family or what's going on? He's like, hey, I'm at my cousin's place, come by and it's this. It's all of the cars in one place, all of them. It's insane. That's awesome. It's so cool. I think especially we were talking about YouTube earlier, about how like it's, you know, some people are really being quite successful right now. And some. Some people aren't. A lot of it comes down to the producing behind the scenes. I look at, like, you know, people say, you know, there's so much stuff out there, how can I do something different? Well, I look at hot ones, right? Sean has done an amazing job of just taking interview show, but the real value of that show is the research behind the scenes to ask questions. So I look at you, Larry, in the sense of, like, yeah, these cars exist. It's. Yes, you present them, but it's also about kind of the research behind the scenes to connect the dots and be like, what is different from what everything else is out there? And the fact that other people are reposting these stories and redoing stories off of something you initially kind of put together, that's kind of what's the thing now, Number one, what comes from this is just my being positive about this stuff. Right. I'm not there to degrade them or talk trash about their build quality or anything like that. Oh, they've gotta be so insecure about people who are coming to make fun of them. It's like lowrider guys. Lowrider guys don't want to fuck with you because they are worried you're either gonna make fun of them or portray them as, like, gangsters. Yeah. And they're all like, you know, family people. But that's exactly why in the past three or four years, I've been able to open all these doors to these collections. And I'm the first one to uncover these collections, because I just. I show, like, look. Look at my history, look at my past. Look, I'm going to these places. I'm being very positive and spreading the love for car culture. I'm not like, oh, this guy, whatever, tax haven, or, you know, he's doing this shady stuff to get all these cars. No, it's not about that. It's about the cars. Well, because you also can't change that law or that thing, like, you'll have. You would have no influence on how a country is run or the money behind it. So, like, you can't really have an effect on it. So if you want to go talk about the cars and they're these crazy artistic creations, you can either go do that or not do it. And, like, all right, you have one life. Do you want to go look at this amazing shit that literally, like, these are one of one. Because no one else has had this crazy idea. The reality is, is that, yes, the Middle east has, like, a lot of that, but it's like, Philippines. Good example. You did that. There's a lot of examples where I think media in general has really come out of kind of the States and Europe. But getting to these foreign places that have those collections, those weird, weird builds. I remember us way back in the day looking at the Thai mini motorbike drag racing videos. Yeah. Like, I didn't even know that was a cult. That was a thing. Just like, I still want to do those fucking skiffs that have, like, super motors in Vietnam boats. Them shits seem all right. Hold on. Yeah, that's real dangerous. But I remember I did a bunch of stuff for Top Gear for Big Wheel racing, which is like the big. Yeah. And it's like, I didn't even know this was a thing. And it's all over Atlanta now. And then I just was coming from Vegas this morning. I see like three. Three flatbeds with those coming to la. I was like, this is like, there's so much culture out there that we are just. There's three flatbeds with what coming to la? Like the. The big. The big wheel racing trucks. You know what I'm talking about? The Donks and the drag racing. Drag racing Donks. Yeah. Those things are fast. She says big Wheel. I'm like, it's called bright. No, no, no, no, it's not. It's called Big Wheel racing. Oh. Because Donk is like, yes. You have to be very clear, cruiser. That ain't no race car. Oh, yes, Right. Because they used to also drag race those and they're really fast. I guess they got annoyed about that. Yeah. Huh. Annoyed about the. The naming, the nomenclature. But the horror part of that, like, side story of that is like, the tires they use and how they're basically cutting their own tires because no one makes tires. Yeah, it's terrible. You have 27s that are one inch tall. Those things, they gotta get Lenox. No slouches. Yeah, no, it's like a thousand horsepower and more tires. They showed a couple on Hoonigan and they get out. Yeah. They like, rent drag strips and they run like. Yeah, with like eights and tens all night. Yeah. Convert convertibles. Yeah. If it's a sanctioned event, you need a cage and a shoot. But they're like, but we rented the track. So. Convertible. Yeah, Convertible blunt. It's like production rules. Like, we'd rent tracks and it's like, oh, yeah, okay. Yeah, production rules. Oh, you're filming. You're filming. Yeah, that's fine. Stand on the outside of that corner if it's Your track and no one else is there. They don't care what you do. We just. I just two days ago had to. It was the lamest you have to wear a helmet ever. Oh, I follow all the rules. I don't put up a fuss at any of these events. Yeah, yeah, but the. The thing that we did with the car didn't mandated a helmet. Didn't justify it. Laughable. I do appreciate that now they're doing like the. The strap Hans devices for some events. I do appreciate that. I suppose appreciate is the right word. Well, I mean, I mean like in certain events, in certain, like where having to wear them to host videos sucks ass. You look like an idiot wearing one of those things. I'm sorry, but you do. They're safe, but like I'll. I'll take the risk to not look an idiot on camera right now. Thanks. You know like the thing they say give. To give a race car driver two cars. One is safe and one is fast. Give me two outfits. One is safe and one makes you not look like a loser. Are you not getting like extra time to do filming at these events anymore? Do they don't do that anymore? If it's the right PR person that knows and understands, yes. At the rest of them, it's. Sorry. Yeah, we're. Where else you been, Larry? I've been traveling a lot. What else is new? Yeah, yeah. Just the past couple years we've been really trying to push the video side of things a lot. And one of the things I wanted to talk about is my book. That's one of the reasons why I figured this would be a good time to do a book. Because I am so much more in front of camera now. Right. So this is just a good. I wouldn't say stopping place, but like a good marker for 20 years of shooting. 20 years behind the camera. And I went over 2 million pictures to whittle it down. What I thought was going to be 2,000 pictures. 100 per year. Right. So 20 years of shooting 100 per year. That was impossible. So we ended up with a little over 2,700 pictures. It's awesome. Yeah, 2,700 pictures. And I put so much effort into this book. I'm so excited about it. We're doing a private launch next week, which I'm excited about, but we're doing a public launch in the summertime when we actually have physical copies. Yeah, I absolutely. Count me in on one of the limited editions. Not free. No, I don't want it for free. I wanna buy It. Okay. I just put my fucking name on one. I will. And I wanna buy it. So. Yeah. So excited about it. I love round numbers. So. 20 years, 400 pages, 11 by 14. The limited edition is a lot of fun. We just did the fun project with Canon where I printed 1000 different pictures. A thousand different pictures. And each one I'm gonna slip in the limited edition. You get one original. Yeah, one original print that is nine by 13 and a half. And it's something that I did myself on camera. You know, we documented the whole thing at my house with my printers just to have a little personal touch. That's cool. You know, something that. Yeah, it just shows, like, look how much effort I put into this thing. Yeah, but you wouldn't believe how hard it was for me to whittle down. Yeah, but that's. That's part of the curation. That's the value of the book. You know, that's like. People get to see what you valued the most on what you went through. So. Yeah. And I was originally thinking I wasn't going to do any writing, but Ryan at Carrara Media, who you've had on this podcast, he pushed me pretty hard to put in a lot of interesting stories into the book. So I spent a lot of time writing just little tidbits and things that I remember from over the years and, you know, just put a lot into it. I'm really proud of it. I'm really excited about it. So right now it's available for pre order. And there's a bunch of you in it, too. Of my cars. Not me personally, my cars. Yeah. But you have some great shots of the safari and the fox body film shots of the fox body. Of the safari. That made it. Yes. Of the Lamborghini. Oh, those. Yeah. Oh, by the way, I forgot to tell you. You remember how when you shot the shots of the Lambo, you said I could use them for whatever I want? Yeah. Well, one is being printed in road and track. This. Perfect. You get a credit. You have a credit. You could use anything that I shoot of you ever. Please use for whatever your name is on it. You have a credit. I don't. I'm actually. They were all. This image seems really crisp. Did you. Did you clear this? I'm very, very happy. I can't wait to have that issue. I love that so much. Clearing it now. It's interesting because, like, that kind of stuff stands the test of time. Oh, yeah. You know, like we did that. That can never be recurred ever again. It can't right that one. Hi, Hannah. Hi, wife. What's happening? Oh, shit. Tag team. You know, I just had an idea before JF Leaves. JF Come back, I think because it's. We're getting knocking on the door at 2:00. Four hours of radio. Our eight hour thing. I think at 2:15 we take a ten minute intermission. I don't think a road rotating sandwich thing. I'm gonna need to eat something. We'll take a 10 minute intermission and then we'll come back and do the rest after that. J.F. for that part, just wanted him to tell everybody that we were doing that. Oh, I see. Close the door. Okay. I wanted to come in. We're at this 50% mark. I want to see how everyone's doing so far. Oh, it's like behind the Bastards where Robert Evan has to check in with how everybody's feeling. Sure. I feel pretty good about this particular four hours of radio. We've just done anyone you regret having on. Anyone we regret. Well, you were kind of brash in your entrance. So not sure how this is going yet. I didn't know how I was supposed to do that. No, that's exactly how Jay said. Something that might have to be cut, but that's true. I'm a little concerned that my sweatshirt looks too much like Matt's sweatshirt. Yeah. We look like we've chosen the Matt's outfit. No, no. Your sweatshirt's older than his though. It's true. Yeah. Very true. Yeah. I'll tell you the person. Personal highlights for me, and I would say from the crowd. Okay. Is definitely Jay Leno eating a sandwich. Yeah. On camera. Top notch. He has earned that one. Out of Fucks to give. Love it. Yeah. He's like, what are you doing? That one over there that refuses to be a one. It needs two tethers. That's why it needs two tethers. I talked to Christian about going and getting the cordless glue gun and some fishing wire, but I filmed him trying to fix it. It was a full minute that he's just in the background. That's what I love about him. You know, he's very dedicated. Yeah. What. What has been your highlight? This is just. I think the fact that I haven't had to actually produce much and people have just had things to talk about and done a. We didn't need the spreadsheet. See, didn't need the spreadsheet. You know what? But the spreadsheet would have been really nice to have. I'm just saying but is like the whole thing about you think like a 12 hour race or a 20 for our race is so long, it goes by so fast sometimes. I once did 24 hours Le Mans coverage. I did a 24 hour live stream coverage. It was brutal and I made a lot of really bad decisions. The worst decision among them was to start drinking right away. I got drunk and hungover twice during that. And so we're not gonna touch alcohol until probably 4:00. So that's rule number one. But besides that, it's been very nice. Thanks, Han. Hannah's episode of the podcast from last week just crushed. Oh, I wanted to follow up on something. Uh huh. Okay. These chairs. Well, I understand ergonomically. Very good for you all really made me want to do during that podcast was like lean back on the arms or like hook around. Yeah. And I have to say that sitting. No the ace. Oh God no. This is the cool substitute teacher. You talk to us now about drugs. Listen guys. And how more important. What's up fellow kids? Sometimes people will see you in a park now. Anyway, I just wanted to state for the record that wearing horizontal stripes on the podcast and sitting back like this. Oh. Was not fun. Not a great look. No. I learned a lot on that podcast that day. Okay. I just wanted to. It's a good note. Yeah, it's a good note. Thanks. But anyway, I'm really proud of you guys for hitting a thousand. Thank you. Thanks for the cake. It's a good cake. How is the cake? Did you try the cake? Is it good? I had the first slice of cake to make sure others ate it. It no problem. That's important because they think they're probably waiting. Is there going to be a ceremony or a candle or something? That's very true. Enough of the cake has been eaten that it's starting to reach the writing and no one wants to cut into the writing, which is kind of amazing. Now also our sandwich platter is being eaten. Makes me very happy. I'm very excited seeing Jay come in like not even being like, I'll finish my sandwich first. Just be like, nah, now is fine. Yeah, it's good. Yeah. He was J rules. There was a casualness. Jay rules. Zuckerman rules. Zuckerman rules. Okay, so favorites. I'm sorry, you coming in was supposed to be a highlight. No, Harry, you coming in and asking about the highlight. He's right here. By the time he's done, he will be a favorite. You see his book? Look, turn around. Look at his new book. He Just came out with. It's fucking awesome. It's very exciting. I also saw that Sarah is the first like that we see. Yeah. And she's here. She's here. It's amazing. Matt Farah also likes this post. Larry Chen. See, I didn't see this post. What was that posted? Oh, January 1st. You know where I was? I was driving for 12 hours across Detroit on January across the Midwest. Turn notifications on. I have notifications off. Yeah. But I am happy and I will buy one. More importantly, liking the Instagram post. How close are you to eating? Break 15 minutes. I'm very concerned about you guys. We're gonna take a break. 2:15. We have to ask Larry the important questions first. Okay, good. You do that. The important questions. There are three. Yeah. Okay. Question number one. We started this podcast in 2012. What was Larry Chen doing in 2012? I just became the formal Drift official photographer. Okay. I was really just pushing hard to get the ball rolling to do this as a full time gig. I think just a couple years prior to that I was. My goal was to break even. You know, it was to not make money elsewhere to put into photography. Yeah. But to break even. And then the second, second goal, I think this was probably around 2009, was to make $10,000 for the year. Okay. Yeah. So then did you achieve that goal? I did. Okay. Gross or net like $10,000 profit? Yeah. After the end of the year and then, you know, it just. Luckily it snowballed from then and I never looked back. Yeah, that's cool. That's a good one. Okay, question number two. Best road trip you've ever taken can be for work or not for work. Best road trip. That is a. That's a hard one. Cuz you are on a lot of road trips. Yeah. H I, I would say road tripping in Japan with my family is probably the best. Oh, when you got your Skyline. When I got my r34, the air conditioning went out in Japan. That can be bad. Japan is. Japan is basically luxury, LA's climate. It was rough. Luckily I was just driving through Nagoya and Liberty Walk is based out of Nagoya. I know they make body kits and they sell T shirts and all that stuff, but they have a full shop. Yeah. So then I, I called them on a Sunday. I was like, hey guys, I really need help. Can. Can I come by? And my coilover went out too. Oh shit. Like the oil leaked out completely to the point where it was just a spring. Yeah. You had three. Yeah. And mind you, this is buying a 25 year old car, sight unseen. Yeah. That's what happens. And then driving it off the lot and then. Okay, let's drive halfway across Japan. Yeah. I mean all things considered, it's not the worst things that could happen. Exactly. So then stop by Liberty Walk City, Nagoya. They pull it in. They have the full AC shop, air conditioning thing. Recharge it. They did not have extra R34 coilovers. Okay. So I limped my way all the way to Nara to graduate Sheeta. Luckily he had an extra set of HKs like used coilovers and he swapped it for me in 20 minutes. Nice. Yeah. So then I could continue driving. It was incredible. That's a good one. Flying somewhere and buying the car and then immediately road tripping it is good. You understand, right? Like when you drive German cars in Germany on the Autobahn. Finally understand why this car is built the way it is. Yeah. It. You don't. It doesn't really shine here really in the States. Unless you live in Nevada. But yes. Sustained. 140, 150 mile an hour. Right. You know, you just don't understand it. And then same thing for something like the R34. You don't understand what it was built for until you drive it all around Japan, in the cities, on the highways, all of that. Is there also an element? I've never been been to Japan. I've heard it's like the best place to visit in the world. But I've heard from so many different people that Japan, especially Tokyo looks like it's 20 years in the future. So is the experience of being in Japan interacting with their infrastructure, how the society, et cetera, informs why they made that car. And that car was so far ahead of its time. I mean there's maybe there's a little bit of that. But it's so interesting. Interesting. Like in the city itself, like Tokyo, it. When you're driving on the highways and the streets, it's like a urban toge. Because it's so natural how they built the highways through where the high rises are and through where the neighborhoods have developed. There's no straight line. Yeah. Everything is a corner, everything's banked. And you know, if you do it in a time when there's no traffic, it's actually quite good. Yeah. Really good. It's so much fun. All the good driving happens at night. There's traffic blows. Exactly. And there's so many other car enthusiasts out there. Yeah. And it's non stop and they appreciate each other. And I could street park my R34. I could leave it at the grocery store, I could go to the movie theaters, I could go to Disneyland. I don't have to worry about it. You can't do that here in LA. You just can't street park an R34 on the street, you know, will get jacked. Well, I have to worry about people backing into. It's like a value. Oh yeah, It's a respect thing. Oh, I would. I, I actually leave. I leave my parked all over the place and I find the doper, the car, the more likely it is to be left alone. Really. I left my 328Ferrari parked with the keys in the ignition and the roof off for like six hours once. And I was like, yeah, okay. Yeah, but I, but I know what you mean in general. Yeah. You do have to be a little more concerned. Yeah, but that's what collector car insurance is for. Last question. You get $10 million to buy cars, but you have to blow through all of it today. That's rough. Yeah, that's a hard one. I feel like the easy answer is I would probably spend half of it on all the legendary cars, all the drivers, cars that I would want to drive like Dodge Vipers, all the JDM legends, fdr, you just have a fleet of stuff. I would have a fleet of the driver's cars that I could enjoy on the street. And then the rest of the half, the other five, I would get full on race cars that I could actually race. Because racing is so expensive. Yes, it is. Yeah. As I've found out pretty quickly. Is there any car that you would buy or that interests you that's like, call it an art piece? Basically, it's not a driver's car, it's not a race car. Something, you know, it could be old, could be new, whatever. Just like expensive luxury. But you're like that 2000 GT. Okay. Even you can't fit in one of them. No, actually I. It's close. Was it you who texted me the photos? I don't know. I mean, I sat. Someone was, we talked about, we were talking the other day how if you Google image search a Toyota 2000, 2000 GT, no photos of it, show it next to other cars or humans. And so when you look at a photo of it, it looks like a. It's a sports car, whatever. But then if you put it next to literally anything else, you're like, holy shit. And someone sent me a photo From Toyota, a PR photo of it next to an 86, a current 86. And it's like shrunk by 40% compared to an 86. It's wild. It's. For me, it's mostly the leg room. Yeah. Because you're five eleven. I mean, you're not. You're pretty tall. I'm five'eleven I'm. My knees hit the dash. Yeah. So if I just like spread my legs a little bit, then I can drive that car. They're there. I can't even get close to getting in one of those things. I can't even get a leg in there. Yeah, they're. I'm tempted to like, you know, in that art piece sort of thing. Like some real brass era pebble beach, you know, like a packer or something. Some real auga. You know, I would just get the horn. The horn and put it on. Whatever. What was the power Marketplace we saw this morning that someone had modified for tall people? Oh, it was a Renault R5 Turbo 2. That someone that I would really like to own. No, no, no, no. They. They just took out the stock seats and put in a set of like Recaros or something. But if you buy it on Facebook Marketplace, you'll get the original seats and the original steering wheel back. I would be the one to spend a million dollars on that car and put it on some nice wheels and put some nice seats in it. I think that would be so cool to have like an outlaw 2000 GT. That would be the only one. And that would be rad. Like the Liberty Walk Miura they've got going on over there. Or is it just like basically a model? So that was a rusty pile that they actually saved. So in essence, they didn't ruin a car they approved on it. I'm not offended by it. I don't care. I was just curious if it actually was a driver or not. Yeah, it. It is a full car. Yeah. Is a real mirror. What happened, Zach? Nothing. Okay. Yeah. All right. I. I think 210. It's time to pee. Get a sandwich. Can we, can we put up the. The hold screen? I made a 15 minute intermission. 15 minute intermission. Okay, so we back at 225. Yeah. Look everybody who's listening on the live stream right now. And we'll cut this out of the finished. Cut the intermission from the finished show. We're not going to put 15 minutes of fucking intermission music. But we appreciate you all, particularly our patrons who really keep the show going. And if you're watching this on the main channel on the live show right now and you go, I like the idea of this live Patreon, our lowest tier. At Patreon, there's only like three bucks a month you get the live stream. For a couple dollars more, you get access to an ad free version of the podcast just for you. Both the video and the audio version. Totally without ads. You go up to that pro driver tier. 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And we're back with. Oh my God, that's me Of Car and driver. Yeah, we have car and driver, road and track and motor train at the Same table. We have all three Hearst Publications. No, Auto Week still exists. Zach, you're right for Auto Week. Now I. Zach's doing is doing some really dangerous work for road and track. First we made him fly the. The pivotal. And then we. We just made him learn how to jump trucks and. And yeah, he does all the dangerous. My Extreme X Games dreams have come true. We're in the same category, clearly on the list, which is the person that the editor doesn't mind if they die. Yeah, independent contractor, non workers, comp. Yours are a little more exciting. Well, I am on staff, but they keep. You know, I mean like I did that slugging story in D.C. where it was just like, yeah, go to Washington D.C. and get strangers in your car for an entire week. You mention it like that, which may be accurate because both of these jobs I've gotten have been suggested to be passed to me by one Matt Farah. Yeah, the first one. Matt, have you been talking to my boss as well? She's like, you know who should do this? The first one got passed because I was too fat. I couldn't fly in the thing cause I was too fat. Literal. That thing got a weight limit moment. The second one. What's the weight limit? 200 pounds. Not even fair. You don't weigh 200 pounds. How much do you weigh? 174. Sixth grade. Good. Yeah, no, it wasn't even close. And what's crazy is that story started with a literal in person meeting with their CEO. She like looked at me and was like, come fly our thing. She didn't think you were over 200? I don't know. I have no idea. Don't take this the wrong way. You look like you're over 200. I think you have. I think you put off real slim energy. Real, real, real. It was a good wardrobe day. I don't know, whatever. But. And the other vertical stripes? The other one. Yeah. Just couldn't. Couldn't do it. I thought. Zach's fine. I. We had. We had a. Like a chat. I think. I don't think it was the last time I talked to you, Alana, but like recently about that insane robo cab thing. And then you wrote by far the best take on it of anybody afterwards. Thank you very. What was the name of the article? I forget the name of the column. Oh, I mean, I think it was just my column in. In. In Car and Driver, but I don't remember. I don't remember. It didn't have a headline, but it was like, just like Alana's. Column. It was fucking ace. Thank you. That is very nice and very meaningful. I was. To be completely honest, I was terrified to write anything even mildly critical. But it went okay. No, nobody sent any since the Twitter acquisition yesterday. Yeah. Sold it to himself. Yeah. But it was worth 33 billion. It has happened. Yeah. X. X got bought by property of Xai Xai. Sorry. For exactly 1 billion more than the original price. So the shareholders get their money back and it's all flow. It's like clever accounting. Yeah. Huh. Yeah. Sounds legitimate. I see no problem with that. Yeah. This should be. This should absolutely be legal. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, look, if. You know, if you're gonna. If you're gonna bribe all those people to vote in Wisconsin, you gotta raise a billion quick. You know, if the share price is tanking and you need hard currency, you know. So I was. When we first started, actually, like, before John even came in the fucking door, when Zach and I were just doing a few minutes, I was saying that I wrote, like, some discussion topics, thinking that, like, we might need them. Not even really thinking about the fact that, like, we're all just, like, friends. We could bullshit for eight hours. So this is a room of people who are rarely at a loss for something to talk about. But I put a lot of pressure on myself. Yeah, I appreciate how prepared you are. I think that it really shows what a professional. So funny. Matt was worried that Johnny would run out of things this morning. Hannah was stressing, you know, you got a problem, motherfucker? You've been talking a lot of shit today, dude. That's the second time you've come at me. But, like, I wrote, like, 30 things, like thought starters. And, like, the beginning ones are so, like, mundane. Like, give me a good book recommendation. Actually, Matt, I can do that. Because the column that I am working on right now is. And you'll have stuff for this is. It's about books or cars in literature, like, in fiction, because Yellow Rolls Royce from Great Gatsby. That's all. Yeah. And that's actually that time period, the 20s and 30s, very often has specific cars in it, which kind of makes sense when you think about how important cars were culturally and also how they were representing different class strata and. But then also, that sounds totally foreign. Also people. By the way, people always crash and die in the cars in all of those books. I just read an Evelyn Waugh one where the car crashing was new. It was exciting. Like, the late 20s is like, when they were calling cars like, murder machines and shit. That's when the auto lobby started pretty much was to counteract the actual urbanism. I mean 1903, there was two cars in Cleveland and they hit each other. And so they outlawed cars. Yeah. In Ohio. So. But wait. Anyway, so that was like the beginning of my list of questions which I wrote yesterday outside by the pool with the cats. Okay. It was a nice. The cats go outside my In. You know, my backyard is fully walled in, so they can't get out. Okay. And I let them in the backyard only when they're supervised by me. Yeah. Not free, but like man do they love it. Okay. So anyway, the. The last few questions I wrote after reading the news this morning. Oh yeah. Drinking coffee and my last question. Rank Elon's lies from most destructive to least destructive. Right. And then I have a list of about eight or nine lies. All right, what are the lies? Let's see the lies. FSD being, you know, self driving. Hot battery swaps. Remember the battery swaps? Very undestructive. Well, I'm saying rank for those hot battery swap swaps by the way. Absolutely sounds like something that you should not google. It does. Yeah. Right. Yikes. The relieving traffic with tunnels. Using a cybertruck as an apocalypse vehicle in a reality. Humanoid robots being any kind of a thing. And quote, waste and fraud. Waste and fraud is the most harmful lie. Yeah, waste and fraud is, you know, it's absolutely insane. Yeah, yeah. And the others are. I mean you forgot the 2017 deposits on the roadster, which I think is actually in a sense is the most harmful because he took $250,000. Theft. Literal, literal outright theft. Like, like that's eight years of no interest on two. That's true. It's funny, I. I made a. When it first. The night it came out, I made. Made a cybertruck deposit just cause it was 100 bucks and I got an email from Tesla about like hey, configure your cybertruck like two days ago. And I just finally was like oh, cancel. I forgot. Yeah. Do you know the take rate based on the number that they had to recall? Oh, 46%. The actual. Yeah, it's 2.46%. Right. Like that's the fucking. That literally we convert T shirts at a higher rate. So what I have learned as a business, this person, is that if you are going to put out a really terrible product, you should make sure that it is all ready before people can learn that it's really terrible and then not actually buy it. Like once you have their money, that's on them also. If you say it's gonna cost 40,000 and it costs 120, that's bad also. Yeah, it's all bad. I mean, it's pretty much all bad. Yeah. There's some things that are good that they could have put into a normal, but that would have not been. No, no, no. Hey, I got whiskey. Let's drink. Tell me again about the whiskey. All right, we got two. We got. This one is. Do you need to take your glasses off? No. If I hold it far away. This is the singing bush. And this is the invisible swordsman. Yeah. Oh, yeah. They're named after three amigos. Right. Named after the three amigos. This one is 136.3 proof, so 68.1 alcohol. This one is 138.69.0 alcohol. Perfect for 2.35pm and we've been drinking since noon. Let's go. Yeah. And here. All right. Yeah, so that's that one. Should they. I mean, the order doesn't matter. They shouldn't taste any different, right? It tastes very different. They taste very different, I think. Well, here, you know, I was gonna pull up. I have my tasting notes from November when I picked them. Very different. Okay. Did you. Have you had any of this yet? I had one. Okay. Yeah. And. And did you. Did you find it a delight? I did find it a delight. I think if I. He's gonna be so mad. If I had it again, I would put an ice cube in it. Yes. Alcohol by volume, 69%. Yes. Gasoline. That sounds like something that musk would have set up. It's delicious. Here, get a little bit going over here. It smells amazing. Wow. All right. Yeah. Okay. I said I wasn't gonna drink until 4, and I got. Got real close. It's so close. I mean, real close. It is 4:00 in Colorado. Let's get. Okay. So the one Matt is drinking. Yeah. This is the singing bush. Yeah. Okay. The nose. Cashews, peanuts, raspberries, cherries, oak and vanilla. Taste is peanut butter and cherry jelly frosting. Sugary, frosted, grainy. And the finish is heated, warm, fiery. So, yeah, to see if any of that holds up. Oh, shit. It tastes like a fireball. Like the candy. Like fireball candy. It's like cinnamon. Cinnamon. Yeah. To me, that's. I get. I get a lot. I get a lot of cinnamon. Okay. Okay. I'll tell you what. For something with this kind of horsepower, it's really delicious. Normally, like. I mean, I respect the ones with the horsepower, but normally I really like to drink at 80 to 100 proof. This is a magic little batch of barrels. This is probably. Okay, look, I'm gonna. I'm gonna just. Yeah, you got a little ways to go. I'm just gonna. Just. Just that it might have been a little too much. So this one that we're drinking. The invisible swordsman knows. Nougat. Vanilla. Faint Honey. And then candy explosion. Caramel. Changing from liquid to gas. Changing shape, form. I was maybe a little drunk at that point. Honey Thread tethers everything together. Exceptional. Finish is big. And it spreads so it tastes like it has jalapeno in it. Once I got a little. Once I got a little splash of water in this guy. Yeah. Fabulous. Really? Yeah, it's right. Right. Fucking delicious. Good. Really nice. I just like. I can't handle that kind of whole horsepower normally. Fiery finish for sure. Yeah, yeah. Cinnamony. Yes, definitely. Definitely. I think I like that one better. You can like that one better? Yeah, yeah, it's fine. All right. I like them both. Well, yeah, we'll see. We'll see what kind of flavor notes we're all experiencing after. Wait, can I try that one out just a little bit? Absolutely. What are you driving that you like right now? Like, new car wise? Anything? Okay. I have a surprise. I mean, it is a surprise to me that I like it. O. Are you ready? You want to try and guess? Cybertruck. Mustang gt. Surprised that you like it. It's not the cybertruck. Oh, Maybach. Everyone likes a Maybach. I don't know. Not only you have a Maybach, but you're going to take us all out in it. I'm not. I don't know. It is the Charger Ev. You like it? Yeah. Well, here's the thing. I'm going to, like, ruin my. Ruin my whole review on it. But as a muscle car, ball sucks. Fucking sucks. Dodge does not know how to market its own shit. It never has. They, like, really fucked up on the Viper, trying to market it as like some sort of European competitor when they should have been going like blue collar hot rod. They do try. And when they changed it, when they changed back to blue collar hot rod for Viper, they were right. But now they've made the opposite mistake, which is that this car is not a hot rod. It is not a muscle car, but it is a very fine GT cruiser. I'm really enjoying it. I think it's gorgeous, it's comfortable. I'm getting crazy positive reaction from everybody who sees it. And, you know, it's like a Chrysler Imperial or something. Like I'm down for it. I'm down for like bringing back a big coupe. Yeah. I mean that's the one thing I've heard consistently is that the ride quality at speed is unparalleled. I haven't been in one yet but just like cruising on a freeway, it's like tops in. Do you have like the fast one? Yeah, I have the fast one and I. What's it called? Is it the. Is it SCAT pack? The fast one and rt. The early drives that I read about the programming was a little odd. Have they fixed that a bit like the. Sorry, throttle program, stuff like that. I haven't had any problems with the one that I'm driving in terms of throttle. I do think it's a good looking coupe. Yeah. And you know I had. I hate the way it look. I'm the only one. I'm not. Yeah, no, I like it. I don't like it at all. I don't love it. I don't love the interior. I think it looks weird if you put like. I actually think if you put like some big ass rims on it, it might look better. Okay. I think it's one of those cars that with the concept wheels it looked great and then with the production wheels it looks kind of puny. So here's the thing. People are gonna put big wheels on it. Oh yeah. I'm not worried about that. I'm sure they will. I just, I really like the weird like pass through hood. It's very concept, like 60s concept, concept car. And funnily enough, this morning I parked it next to a cybertruck and I was like, wow, these two vehicles next to each other. You could teach an entire semester of automotive design just based on these two cars together and comparing them. I think the game should be, you see, you have to write a semester of a class based on seeing these two cars. You know, I can do that. What is the class called? Right. Wow. Right? America, the Dark times. Well, I mean I think after the fall really though, like they are both very, they're very radical departures capitalism from what all the electric cars had looked like previously. And one of them, one of them is heavily into negative utopia and the other one is like out of a Sid Mead drawing. So I think, I think it's really interesting. Billionaires. What went wrong? Oh, look at that. That's. That's actually car and driver. Here's a sedan based concept. Well, that's coming. Is that actually what it looks like? Is that coming? Is that Legit. There is a four door version of that for sure. Coming. Yeah. And V8s are coming. I have to say I think this styling works better as a sedan. Definitely. Well, because you're more used to a big, a big car being a sedan. But you know, I mean you, you know me, they might not know me, but you know, I. A lot of big two doors. I've had a lot of big two doors in my life. So to me, a large two door, like a door that's as long as this table. I'm down with that look. I think it's fun. And the Challenger looked great. It's just, I think this one doesn't look great. I agree. I first saw this at the Radford School for an event and it was parked next to an entire row of Hellcat Red eyes. And I went, oh no. When I first saw it, it just looked so puny by comparison. Comparison. Granted that's got the flares and whatever. If you parked it next to a V6 challenger, it probably was. The flares helped those cars a lot too. Well, I surprised myself because I was very ready to dislike it, you know, I mean, I was ready to take it personally. Yeah. I gotta say. Why? Well, you know, I come from a background of muscle cars and Chrysler in particular. So when they make a mistake, I feel it like, you know, it's like a. That's so weird to be attached to a brand. Dude. Can I tell you how I just, I just experienced some privilege. I was about to talk about how I didn't like big doors on coupes. Like cars with smaller doors. Yeah. And the reason is because a lot of times I have to park in, in garages and in between other cars and stuff and, and I don't like, you know, you get more angle on a shorter door. You're so slim, why would it matter, right? Exactly. Under 200. But then I, then I was like, I guess it only matters if you're parking the car inside or like in between other important cars. I will admit that I have had to do. You know, there's a very particular. You hold the edge of the door with your hand as you're like sliding out between. I've been doing that a lot in this car. So it's not super convenient, but you know, could be worse. Could be like a gull wing or something. Same thing with BMW. I like the four door. Like the M3 versus the M4. Cause these big ass doors, I can't get enough angle when I open them. Oh, funny. I know it's true. I just never thought about to like criticize a car for that. Yeah. The other way, like the Taycan has like really small doors and so. And you bonk your head getting in. You can. But I have my new move for the Taycan is when I open the door, I hook my right foot underneath the open door. I do that. Yeah. And I basically do kind of like a sit up out of that. That's going to be good for me long term. It probably is. You're building ab muscles anterior. My right side. Your right side's so good and your left side's so bad. You got like, you've got like a three pack. Okay, well, I'm glad, I am glad to hear a positive review of the Charger Ev. I have not heard so many good ones. Yeah. Surprised myself. That's good. But I mean I really do think that it's all about setting expectations. And you know, again, if I had come to it as this is the Hellcat next generation, I'd be like, fuck this. Well, I mean people seem to also forget like the Hellcat didn't show up immediately. Like they did a lot of Chargers and Challengers and then there was a Hellcat. No, but I had the first SRT Challenger press car like Pre Pro. In fact, we should go get JF because he was fucking there. Yeah. And when we got this thing, that car stopped people in the street in 09. The SRT. I got pulled over straight up. Just talk to a cop. 90 in a 30 in the air in New York where I used to live. And the cop. It wasn't your fault. Those cars just do that. I let the cop, the cop. I was like, you want to drive it? And he was like, and he did. I let him drive the car. And that ticket never happened. It was have done that one Serious. Yeah, yeah. Pre dash cam. Yeah, yeah, that was definitely pre dash. He turns the body cam off. Did you ever, you ever have a cop take his gun out and leave it in his car? Cuz you said you can't have a gun in here. No, I've done that. I, I, I like you took the cop for R. You're like, hey, you have to leave. He wanted to drive. And I'm like, you can't, you can't have a gun. It's going to scratch the seat. Like, don't, don't do that. And he just took his whole, the car. I can't say because there's a lot of video of this car. Oh yeah. But it was, it Was from Italy. Okay. Did you do this to get out of a ticket? Were you just trying to make friends? This was actually filming with. But I have let cops drive cars to get out of tickets. Yeah, like maybe. Let's see. A GTR. What was it called? Z4M Coupe. A Z4M Coupe. Really wanted to drive it. He really wanted to drive it. I didn't know that the M coupe had that kind of. Of juice back in. Back in 06. Pre production challenger before they're on sale. Yeah, of course. But an M. This is a 2009 GTR. That was the one. I have never had any police interactions ever. When you're not driving. Never. You're not driving faster. Yeah. No, you should drive quick. All our cars have like 9 liters of displacement and make 125 horsepower. Yeah, that isn't. You're going to take it for noise, but not for speed. Wait, didn't you. Didn't you buy like a dump truck or something? Not recently, no. You bought a huge commercial grade truck in the last six months, didn't you? Or did I just make this up? You made that up. You're thinking of one of the other women that you know who collect trucks. Different girls. Dump trucks. To be fair, we do have a commercial grade dump truck. You do? We do. But we didn't get it recently. Oh, it's an old dump truck. And. And then we have the two big ramp trucks. About those. I don't know why I thought you. I don't know. We've been. We maybe did a. Maybe Instagram just. Yeah. Or I mean, I think we did an update on one of the ramp trucks. So maybe that's what you saw. I love a ramp truck. Ramp trucks are cool. You don't need any kind of special license for a ramp truck. Right. That's just a pickup truck with a cap on it. Right. For. For the smaller ones. You don't. For the ones that we have. You would. Except that magically in the past they have been registered as RVs, so. Oh. Oh, yeah. Then there's no rules. Yeah, there are no rules for RVs. Stop applying. You can. We were just talking about. You can just do whatever you want. Biggest thing. We were just talking about that with. She was like, they just let these young people drive. Whatever. I was like, that's not all. If it's a bus, you need a license. But you get an RV the same, exact size, same power train. Go for it. Have a great time. Oh, hi. I didn't mean to interrupt. Leaving not without saying goodbye. Thank you very much. Got a guest mic. Party mic. Say goodbye to everyone. We saw a bunch of empty glasses, figured we'd just jump in. Yeah, come on in. Those are empty. Get some booze. Get a beverage. We got beverage. Phil Morris and Jay Ryan, you can tell us if you taste an explosion of sweetness. Wait, Johnny, was this what you gave me earlier? Yeah. Good hint of honey. Really? Cherries, I think. Was that nuanced with my straight baby? It's really. It's really good. It's really. It's just easy. J. Wan so this comes from. All right. Should I rinse out my glass before. You don't need to do that. I can. I'll give it a little swirl scheme. All right. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That opens it up, doesn't it? The water. I mean, the thing. Is that what they say? Well, that was a tactic to, like, how do you get. People don't like whiskey to drink it? Add water to it. But. But it. Yeah. Yes, it opens it up. No, I was just trying to clean. To clean my glass off is all, you know. Thank you, dude. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Thanks for coming by. How do you. Thank you for coming, Phil. We. We appreciate you being here. This. This is a real delight. How's it going in here? It's going. It's pretty rough, actually. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of hate. We. We have all the pillars. We have Motor Trend, Car and Driver and Road and Track. So basically, it's all the print automotive magazines not over by us at hearst. Dead. Remember 2005, Matt, print is dead. Yeah. I pretty much only want to write for print. Yeah. Right. It's a real delight. It is nice. You know what else? Here's something I appreciate that I didn't appreciate before. Fact checkers. I used to think they were annoying, and now I'm like, bless a fact check. That was my. One of my professors. Writing professor in college said, like, the most important thing for you is to find a good editor. And that's true of all writers, but find a good editor. Yeah. AJ Edits me most of the time, and he is a. Okay. Does that objectify, I mean, give you an objective view of yourself, then? No. I mean, I guess I'm a decent. Well, because they just. Just. I've never, ever gotten edited in a way where I went, ew, like, what did you do? Except one time where they actually got. They changed a correct fact to an incorrect one. I've had that. That's always fun. That's a bad one. But I've never had someone structure my words and sentences worse than I sent in, you know, and, like, I go long, they'll ask for 1500 words and I'll give them 18, and they'll get it to 1500 of the best ones. Yeah, yeah. Same with you guys, I guess. The only horrible edit I ever had and I. Exactly. That's what happened at this level was when Covid happened. I wrote something about, like, driving up Angeles Crest before. Good vibes, actually. But just like, that's the only freedom left in Covid. And we had some dumbass. Like, if we mentioned the word Covid or the word pandemic, it might. Potentially. It was just. It might scare advertisers. No advertiser had said, hey, we're scared of COVID and Pandemic. But they were just like, you gotta cut those words out. I'm like, it's a story about the only freedom left because of the global COVID Pandemic is driving in the canyons. Yeah, but you can't say Pandemic or Covid. So after it published, I went to someone and said, hey, could you give me access to that file? Went back and changed it, and I just changed it all. Yeah, but it got published without it for week. I think what's nice about, like, when you have a good editor, they can look at what you've written and help, you know, they. You're kind of equally invested in every part of what you've written. It gets hard to know what the interesting part is. And a good editor can say, you know, actually, this bit that you've stuck here in the middle is amazing, and you should move it. Move it up higher and it should be where you start. Or they could say, oh, this thing that you clearly think everybody understands. Like, normal people don't understand that. So you need to explain that a little more. Give you an outside perspective. Absolutely. It's like a director. It's like being an actor without a director. A director is part of the process. And look, I was helping a young writer the other day, and I was giving them some, I thought, very good edits. And they were just. Would not take them really. And I was like, you know, day one, when I started on motor trend, Angus McKenzie said to me, he said, nothing we write is sacrosanct. Yeah. And. Yeah. And it. It took me about three years to understand what he meant. But, like, this person was just. They wouldn't hear it and they. They just wouldn't take the edit. And I'm like, all right, I'M not going to help you anymore. Well, it is collaborative, right. This whole thing. So you mentioned directors. And. Right before I leave, because I'm going to get out of here, but. And Happy Sunday. Later. It smells weird in here. But my. My. One of my misdirections I ever got was on Bosch Legacy. Oh, the best. Yeah. And I'm doing this final scene. I'm getting tortured by Titus Welliver, who's a wonderful actor. He was. And I'm, you know, getting tortured. I mean, getting waterboarded. So it's bad. It's not comfortable. The director goes, cut. He goes, what are you playing here? I tell him what I'm playing. He says to me, got it. Let's re. Architect that. Right. Whoa. I had. I've been doing this a long time. I had never heard those phrases. I. Okay, you got me. What's up? He goes. And he tells me, you know, you have this power. Don't give away your power. Whatever it was. But it was just. He heard me. He heard what I was doing. Like, read my stuff. Yeah. He collated it, didn't deny it, didn't negate it, and then added to whatever choice I made by giving me more power than I came into the scene with. And when you. When I watch the scene now, it's rather than me being tortured. I'm like, what the fuck are you doing? You know what I mean? I could end you with a phone call kind of a thing. Right, Right. Change the dynamic. But he didn't tell me how to act it. He didn't do it for me. He just suggested in these words that were so perfect for my machine to then be able to express it. Right. Nice thing. Yeah, it's cool, man. Speaking of Bosch, I got to go. I got to go. I got to go. We didn't know, but it was the last scene of the last episode, and I got to. To stand there and watch Titus, like, rework it. He was just reworking the word about 30 different ways, but, oh, man, it was so cool. It's good, right? It's like how the sausage is made. He's. That Titus is. You know, he's. He's intense. He's a guy. Yeah. And we just got along great because I'm fairly intense when it comes to that work, too, but, yeah, I respect it a lot. You know, you guys all did a great job on that show. Oh, thank you. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Yeah. All right, all right. You chilling. You going? You chilling? You're chilling. I'm chilling out there. Okay. Get out of the way. All right. Yeah, I'm going to be here. You want this chair? Completely reversed it for me. If you're a party Mike, you can stand. The camera will see you if you want to stand, but you only have four chairs. Good job on this. Second bottle. Yeah, I am very much. Second bottle. A fan of. Yeah, the. The Invisible swordsman is sort of. I. I really like that one. Yeah. The other one's real good. But Invisible swordsman is like, that's. That's my flavor. Anything. Anything that's kind of peanuts or peanut butter in bourbon is my jam. If you can ever get those flavors in there, just. Just sometimes you get a bourbon, a little peanut. Little peanut butter. And that to me is like. Because they're all. They're all caramelly. And you get peanuts and caramel. Oh, it's good. My friend brought me me a peanut rum that's in there. I've never tried before. I've never tried it before, but I like. I eat a lot of peanut butter. So we'll. It'll either be like a gimmick, which isn't good, or it might be nice. I do. I definitely do not like that peanut. That specifically peanut butter whiskey. Odd. That's a bad impression of peanuts. Doesn't represent peanuts in the best way. Yeah, no, no, it's. But I do love the breakfasty smell of a bourbon distillery. Hot cereal, baby. Oh, gosh, that's so good. Oh, this is good. So good. Yeah. What are we talking about? Well, I can send us down a road. I have yet to go to an actual one of my 30 conversation star or I have 130 car you garbage questions. Also, I have a. I have a topic for you guys. Do you? That I feel like everybody would have a input on. I got nothing. Listen, as the editor of a prestigious magazine, I defer to you. Well, features editor and editor, I recently had my very first on track car crash. Whoa. Glad you're okay. Thank you. Where'd you crash? This is another one that you would never in a million years guess so. First of all, cybertruck. It was a drag strip crash, which is even weirder. Even harder to have. Was it like a new car? No, it was one of my cars. Oh, this makes more sense. Which personally? Ramp truck. Dump truck. The dump truck? Yes. No, it was. It was a 1969 CHP Dodge Polari. It's fine. Oh, okay. It is fine. I broke a tail light. Oh. How did you crash that? Well, in that case, I get to make fun of You. Oh, yeah. You. You can. 100%. You can find a video of it. It's on the YouTube channel. What happened? It was at the finish line. I must have tapped the brakes, which is a dumb thing to do, but I guess maybe it was like a muscle memory from driving a faster car. There was no reason to the car. It was like I was going maybe 90 and I tapped it. The brakes locked up and full, fully around and then back. And then the funniest part was that I was like in. As it was happening, happening, I was like, I am going to get stuck across the drag strip. Like that boat in the canal. It is such a big car. Like, it is such a big car. Evergreen. Evergreen. Yeah. Like, that is like. There were two things I was thinking. One of them was, I do not want to see this happen. So I was like trying to turn it away. Like. Like as long as I hit with the back, it didn't happen. And then the other thing, perfectly done. Like, I'm just totally picturing it. I'm just going to say drum brakes and drag racing is a bad idea in general. Okay, wait, here we have the video. We have the momento here. Here you go. Helmet, bench seat, two hands on the wheel. I mean, it's 15 seconds. Wow. That went. That came around rapping. It was fast. Wow. Yo, you know what? You got so lucky. Yo. Do you like how I. How like I'm like landed it like a gymnast? Honestly, I think I would. I don't call that a crash. I call it save. What would you drag racing? I was drag racing against an eight second Camaro, thank you very much. Good thing it wasn't a 16 second Camaro. It's the horn ring. And everybody thought it was him who crashed because no one was like, that big barge crashed. I mean, look, that happened so fast that I'm gonna call what you did a save and not. Thank you. That is so kind of you. That was at Bakersfield. That's Formosa. Yeah. If you. If anyone wants to go and watch the whole video challenge her YouTube channel. Yes. There is a section. The. The emergency guys come, they ask me if I'm okay, and then I say I'm sad. And then I went to the pits and I cried for 20 minutes. Oh, what about what? I was so embarrassed. Yeah, I was so embarrassed. Crashing happened. No, I've never crashed on a train track, but crashing happens. No, it's okay. Yeah. Never crashed on a track, huh? So not to my knowledge. You read a whole story about it. Yeah, I crashed Once on at Laguna City. No, I didn't. What? What? What? What? Crash. That's not a good place to crash. Yeah, yeah. On the. I've never on the court. Screw. Did you. The Aston. That's a crash. Because I ran off the track, but I totally didn't crash. Okay. Tracks have runoff for a reason. Yeah, yeah. Often. And often a crash are not the same. They're not into something. Depends on the track. Unless you're on the track. All. All off our crashes. Yes. People, drinkers, drivers, journalists. It's an honor. Are you off? Thank you for coming. We really appreciate you. Appreciate. You're good. Literally dropping the mic right now. Yeah. Yeah. Good afternoon, buddy. See you. See you next Sunday. Friday. Friday, yeah. Friday. I'm gonna be in. We're gonna be in Charlotte. Oh, I'm actually not even gonna be there. What am I talking about? Nice. 1010 Motorsports. Oh, Marco is all. Marco's all. Yo. Doesn't need any water or anything? No, we're good. We're okay for the time being. That would only. That would only dilute what we're doing. Right. Come tag in. Tag in for Johnny. Oh, you're gonna go smoke a cigar. You know, have fun. We. We got radio to do after the radio. All right, so. But I do want to know now that I've shared this, I've been so vulnerable with you guys. What is an embarrassing car moment that you've had? What is a moment where you briefly were like, why did. How did that happen? And am I good at this? I just got one. So good friends. I grew up with the Israels, so Mikey and Dave Israel were big car guys and just started. Started at Motor Trend, and I had my first print issue of Motor Trend Classic, and I brought it to Russia. Sean. At dinner, I'm like, look at me. You know? And everyone's like, johnny, like, you're doing great. You know? And I had. I had a Shelby. Shelby America. Let me preface by saying that. So not a Shelby, but a Shelby America. It was like. It was the supercharged V6 Lingua. Yeah, 2010. Yeah, the Terlingua. Now, it was Friday night. It was. It was Russia, Shauna. But Friday afternoon, I was on the phone with Shelby America going like, yeah, your. Your traction control software keeps, like, randomly turning on and off, and everything's messed up. And like, oh, don't worry about it. Just turn the car off and on like, yeah, we're really having a hard time testing it, you know? Oh, it works. You're doing something wrong. And we're like, oh, yeah, whatever. Anyways, I don't drink a drop of alcohol because I'm taking Mike and his fiance at the time for a ride. We're gonna. We're gonna blast down the 101, you know, woodland Hills. And as I'm getting on, I pull third gear and just back in. Gone. Just gone. And it wasn't even a case of cold tires because we'd driven around for a while and in a straight line crash hit a, you know, a green light, red light, stop light thing. Yeah. In the Valley Friday night and, like, shattered the car into a 200 yard debris stream. People in the car with me. Oh, no. And then there was an islands restaurant. It was right at the mall and exit, and the entire restaurant came out and they're on the fence staring at this. Shelby, did you just, like, get out of the wreckage and go inside and get some fries? No, we got out. We got out. Everyone was fine. Yeah. And then when the, like, seven cops showed up and they all. They were convinced I was drunk, and they just kept leaning in and, like, smelling me as I was talking. And I was trying to explain traction control to cop, you know, the whole thing. And by the way, I don't own this car. And they're like, what is this thing? And then one of the. I caught one cop picking up anything that was branded Shelby. He was just walking around, picking that up and pocketing Shelby. And then I had to call Shelby America the next day and tell them all the emblems are missing. No, but he. He's like, is it the kind of car? And on those shelbys, there's about 14 different things that say Shelby. 1400 different things. The entire engine compartment was just Shelby branded oil caps. It was all exploded. The guy from Shelby America was like, is this the kind of thing where I can bring a tire and a box truck down or a tire and a flatbed? I'm like, no, you need a shovel and a box truck. Yeah. Bring a broom. I know a lady who has a dump truck and maybe she'll lend it to us. Now, the funny part part was Carol was still alive at this point and still running Shelby America. And Matt Stone was still working at Motor Trend. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So Carol called Matt to be like, what the. And I got so yelled at. No, Angus didn't. Angus was like, hey, mate, these things happen. Try and be more careful, you know, Angus was cool, but Matt was like, he was just livid. It was. It was. It was a very. And I. I was convinced I was fired I remember laying in bed with my wife that night being like, I'm done. That's the end of my career. Yeah. You know, but as we say in Motor Trend, you don't get your first race, so you've crashed your third car. So cut that part. No way. That's fine. None of the young people watching this who work at Motor Trend should listen to that. Oh, they all got laid off. Don't worry. I crashed an R8 in England on a wet racetrack. And that was pretty bad. And it wasn't. It didn't look that bad. I drove it back, back to the pits, but it. Ultimately, the car was totaled. And that was not a fun phone call to make. The feeling of it all, it's so wild. Like you're. Just the second that it goes bad, there's this frozen time moment where you're just like, rewind, rewind. It's like when the coyote runs off the cliff and then he's like pedaling for a second before he drops down 100%. And this was wet. Like, this was literally one of those. One tire gets into the wet grass and just sucks. There's a famous Brock Yates column about that. It was really. I'll have to go. Yeah, he's driving a Camaro. Wet grass is a commie, dude. Oh, really sucks them in. It's green, but it should be red. That devil politics. No, it's, you know, but it. Because it was like, it was like a 25 mile an hour, you know, 10 second joyride to the tire wall just going, oh, man, this is gonna be some explaining. But, you know, the second one is. It's like murdering someone. The second one's a lot easier. That's what I hear. You know, you just keep doing. Becomes normal. You're just getting numb to it. I only crash forward, so it's. It's fine. I've only ever crashed forwards, literally in my life. I've had two car accidents in my life, both from Ford. I've only ever crashed. Ford's is a really dead. Because that's the, that's the car writer version of Only Murders in the Building. Yes. It's also. It also sounds like, you know those T shirts that you kind of just like they're like computer generated or whatever. It'd be like my grandfather loves me and 44 magnums or something like that. You know, just like I only. I only crash for. The second one was good because it was. It was a raptor and it fell on its door and we were filming a video so what? We had a second raptor with us. So what do we do? We. We literally tow rope it back onto its wheels. Yeah. Anthony, our director jumps in with a knife, cuts the airbags out. Keep filming. All the brake fluid was out of the car, so I had no brakes. It ought to just be like a raptor sales technique. Like they ought to have like a buy one, get one half off for when you crash the first one. Well, hang on real quick. Quick. Then Ken Block totaled the next one. The next day we did a video where we returned for two totaled raptors. I feel like I don't really understand even after 20 years of fucking doing this gig, what is the right amount when reviewing an off road vehicle? Like, what is the right amount for me to break it? Because if you don't break it at, at all, the audience doesn't. They're like, you don't even deserve to be here. But if you break it too much, you know, I probably know the answer. Is your answer. There is no too much. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Just have an extra. We took a God Lexus LX570 Rock crawling and we literally ripped all of the cloth cladding off. You know, it's got all that hanging down stuff. Every piece of that was ripped off and we return it and like, initially some of the lower level Lexus people were very upset. And then Mo Durant was like, dude, he's like, we haven't had a marketing budget for that car ever. He's like, it's Gonna cost us 25,000 to repair. It's the best money we've ever spent. People are gonna see this thing off road. Like, we might get a new customer. It's great. It's fine. So that's the right amount. Rip all the cladding off. It depends who your audience is. Because if it's like real off roaders, like people who camp, they actually don't go hard off road because they're like, well, there's actually a very sensible line that you could take here that doesn't damage your vehicle. And that's what you should do. But if your audience is people who like to watch off roading, then you need to go hard. But the thing with off roading, as you know, is same with, with racetracks and drifting. Oh, my God. If it looks cool, it's probably not fast and probably not smart. The comments in a Chris Harris video, like, Chris Harris is great at making videos, right? Okay. But if you do for five seconds, there are people who go into current Chris Harris videos and complain that sliding isn't the fastest way around the track. It's like, he's been doing this for like 30 years. The same thing. It's part of why he's. Do they also go to formula drift events and they go like. Yeah, they're just. They could go faster if they didn't do all that smoke. But as you know, with off road, there's no way to translate what you're doing. Yeah, it's impossible no matter what you're doing. Like, like, like literally, okay, I'm gonna park the truck, get out, and I won't be able to stand because it's so steep. I'm gonna fall down the hill. They're like, I can do that. My 86 Buick Regal, my grandmother's car. Like, and the thing is you can. That's what's annoying about off roading is you can be. You can be like 40 miles out into the desert in something hardcore wearing like a helmet and some dude in like a Nissan, like is gonna come tootling around super slow, sending sparks off the exhaust, which is hanging down. But they. Dude still got 60 months on the finance. I don't know what he's doing. The guy in the Crown Vic full of bicycles that went up like lions back in Moab. Like all these off roaders are there and this guy shows like a legit stock like Crown Vic that has bicycles hanging out of an open trunk. And he just goes, squeak, squeak, squeak. Yeah, you just gotta go slow. And you can pretty much do anything 100 miles from anything in the all cars. One in the backcountry trail in Washington. And then we just came upon like the dudes driving like Jettas that were like foraging out there. Oh yeah, they had like E350 vans and stuff that they were just out collecting mushrooms. Yeah, I was on Rower flats at the top, the really crazy section before the trees. And this dude in a. It was an outback wilderness was. He was just full speed like, like was not lifting at all and just. And like destroying the car. But he got up. Sounds like that's a press car. No, right? No, it was a guy in the privately owned car. Yeah. And I'm like, I'm like, dude, like, good driving in Turo. And no, he ripped the whole. The front was gone, but he didn't get the. Those are the kind of people who get rescued by like Matt's off road rescue. And you're. And you're just like, wow, you just kept going. That must have been Making a lot of noise. But you know, I, I did, I did Baja. I did the Nora 1001 year in a like lifted 57 Chevy to. And we like, yeah, we broke, but we got towed out of one section by like a guy in a stock Subaru. And it was pretty humiliating for us. And he took photos. He was like, I'm taking photos of this. I remember years ago. God, this is like in the early 90s, like when, when. Yeah. Bourbon the Ram 1500 first came out, the cool looking one, right? And my friend had a lifted one and we went to Black Lake up on the California Nevada border and like we rock crawled in and we're feeling all manly and there's like lifted FJ 40s with like diamond plating and we're like, our pickup truck's so cool. We get there, there's a fucking red Subaru Impreza wagon and a family at a picnic table. And I'm like, how'd you get here? They're like, oh, we came in that path. I go that path nine hours to like, you know, site. It's like there is nothing more humbling. It was, it was literally like, like, like, you know, two parents and two kids. Like, tread lightly. Yeah, it's crazy, man. I do love off roading though. It's hard. I love doing it, but it's just like you can't make it look good on video. There's no way. And again, it's just every, no matter what you do, like the comments, like I've even done that in videos where I'll like with that same Lexus one, we filled up the back with like beach balls and I opened the tailgate to show like how quickly they'd fall out. And everyone's like, dude, Buick. You know, like could do that angle down. I think operative remains. Like that's a fun hobby for me for cars, but for filming it just never works. So I can just leave it out. I mean it was pretty fun with the Ranger Raptor at King of the Hammers. It looks fast off roading. Silty stuff. Silty stuff is good. Different thing. Yeah, that's cuz. Same reason Drip, you get sliding, you have sand, you have action. That's why I think it's like if you do like the Rubicon, anyone who knows anything, they know how difficult that is. And you're like, I'm doing the Ruba. It's like driving the Nurburgring. Like, okay, that's means something. Yeah. So. But not doing that for video. I would do that just for fun. But, yeah, we wouldn't film the whole thing. I want to do it. Have you guys heard of this thing? It's called. It's called, like, living a life off of video. I knew you. I mean, I haven't, you know, attempted it myself, but I have heard that you can actually do things that you love to do, and there doesn't even need to be an audience and. And there are no commenters. Where is this? What. What happened? Yeah, we have to do it in this place called Real life. Where's that? Like, real life. IO does X on that. It's hard sometimes when you do car. You know, I know to do a car. A car related vacation. Now I know. And then I'm doing one. You do it and then you start. We still do. I'm going to do one. What are you going to do? I'm making you turn it into content. I'm turning 50, and my wife got me VIP tickets to the World's strongest man finals in Sacramento. That's cool. And we're gonna. Yeah, thank you. And we're gonna do a road trip, and we're gonna spend, like, a night in Marin, a night in Sonoma, a night in Mendo, then go to Sacramento and then drive home sick. Yep. That'll be fun. We're taking a 770 horsepower Panamera. Oh. Turbo SD highway. Are you gonna make any strongmen pull it? Real delightful car. Car. No, but. Because it won't go into neutral when it's hot on. I don't know. No, no. But I. There is a strongman event in Santa Monica in late June that I might actually be involved with. It's. Martin Lis is putting on the Santa Monica Classic. And I. My friend Kale knows him, and he's like, you want to, like, help out? And I'm like, I would love to, like, I don't know, move a sandbag or. I love to fill chalk bags. Yes. Can I please rub Ruby Ryan Shaw's hands afterwards? No, that's cool. That's a cool. Yeah. Yeah. So I might turn the chalk into mud, though. I don't know. Wow. That's where the line is. No, no. You know what? Yeah, that is. Yeah. If Matt's hobby isn't content, then it's going to turn into sex. That's what the disconnect. So. Yeah, that's why. There you go. Yeah, I was actually. There are people who do those together as well. I've heard. I. I was gonna say. Oh, go ahead, say. I was gonna say. I Heard the Zach and Hannah look like the same person, and that was really funny. That's very funny. The rumor is it doesn't. It's not true. But it's not true. It's not good for either of us. But it's also not especially Hannah. Up until today, they were never seen in the same place. Yeah, I will. I will say that they are both so attractive, and I would like you to. I'd like you to send in whoever. Somebody. Send in another lady. That would be a ra. Radical moment, having two ladies. We had two ladies. We've had two ladies. Yeah. We had Amelia. We've had two ladies. We had two ladies. Sarah came in and then left him, like, immediately. Yeah, make her come back in. She knows she's not. She's not here for content, but we could talk about dachshunds, and then we could make you guys listen about dachshunds. Sarah's work in cars is fabulous, but her work in houses is actually somehow better. Yeah, and her work in dachshunds, Even better than. No, her dog, she turns into content. She has two dachshunds, and they're both perfect. They're one. The one. The one that's hers. One is Nick's. One is hers. And it's mean. Maybe you're doing it wrong. She's mean to all men. Jerry's. Jerry is a dog that hates men, which is a thing that happens all the time. I don't know. Is that the dog's fault? Not all men. Would that dog rather be in a forest with a bear or a man? That's the question. Marco. You guys needed a female. Yeah, come on in. We need a female. What's going on? You guys can kick me out. Is back in the house. What's up? Said you can kick me out, too, at some point. No, no. Johnny had really overstayed his welcome. But you have another 10. I have. I have only barely overstayed mine. Also, we need to make sure we get JF And Larry Chen back in here, both of whom I feel were slightly shorted. We need JF in here with me, and then we can talk about the Porsche. We can all talk about the Porsche. You mean. Oh, Edith. Yeah, Edit. Oh, I got to drive that car. When he comes back in, that's when I'll take a little break. So Marco has. Oh, wait, when is. When is the. Oh, when is the. That's April 1st. What are they. When? April 1st is tomorrow. How many people. No, it's Tuesday. How many people are watching live April 1st is. Tomorrow is Tuesday. Yeah. All right. I can't talk about it. I'm sorry. No, you can't. I was gonna talk about the Carrera S that I drove. That's, that was identical to your Carrera S, except it's a pdk. I did offer you my car. Did you not just do another car was out of town, so I couldn't. It was only me. It wasn't even like I couldn't. Oh, you've got an embargo. This. I have an embargo. Carrera S embargo, I'm sorry to say. But anyway. Oh, you don't have to talk about Porsche. What do you guys do? Johnny's whiskey now? He's not here anymore. Do you want the cars that get brought to you to fix or do you want to do that in a different show? Whatever. Look, I mean, I'm the show killer, right? You might, you might be a show killer here if I'm wrong about this, but were we once at a party talking about a friend of yours who's actually a neighbor of mine, and he has like 928s and a bunch of trucks. 944s? 44s? Yeah. Yeah, he's a good friend of mine. This is a show killer. This is inside neighborhood. No, no, it's not. But also it is funny because, you know, it's not. It's like there's this house that I've seen before, and I've seen it because it's a guy who has old cars. There are houses around and I, and I pay attention to any house that has old cars parked in front of it, as we all do. And then somehow I meet someone who knows that guy like that. You know that this is how LA works pretty much. It's really described. You just described. I, I, I've met small town people in my neighborhood. Based on the car that's been parked in their driveway or, or garage. I should have had Hydrogen Brian come down, as a matter of fact. Hydrogen Brian's my friend who works in the hydrogen industry who has five Toyota Mirais. Oh, so if you walked by a guy's house and he had five Toyota Mirais, which I would notice, you would be like, this person is either a real problem and needs be reported to the authorities. Well, I would assume that it was like that guy in New York who was like making his own hydrogen for his hydrogen car. Yeah, that sounds dangerous. It does. But also kind of rad if he knows what he's doing. And if you don't live next to him. Yeah, don't live next to him. You. You can currently buy a safe home hydrogen setup that's like the size of like a bed. Like a big bedroom dresser, basically. And. And it. And it can make hydrogen and you have a tank and it just. You have a tank of whatever. There's a couple of rounds of thing. And it's just a couple who also brew their own beer. Like people who are much rather brewing beer. You just. You just put the shit in the thing and then you just press. Turn it on. It's like a compost pile where you just like get the worms. No, it turns. It does. It takes it out of the air. It does air and electricity. And maybe Porsche should do that in. In Chile instead of whatever they're doing. That's what they're doing. Yeah. Why'd they have to go all the way to Chile then? They could be doing it in the bedrooms of all of their Porsche engineers. It's windy. Where they are, I think, is part of it. I need to look it up again. Well, you know, most hydrogen vehicles are fuel cell, obviously, but I met a guy who has a startup that has a fun. Has functional prototypes of hydrogen combustion engines that apparently you could convert very easily from gas engines the same way you would convert to E85 or something like that. And they have a new. A novel way of. Because most people don't want a high pressure hydrogen tank in their trunk. Right. That's a thing. That sounds like a bad idea. And also the system of transferring hydrogen that we have now, which, although it looks like gas pumps, it actually kind of sucks in practice. So if you had one of these home hydrogen deals, they have a way to store a low. They have a low pressure storage storage system for the car, which then combusts hydrogen as if it was gas. And if you have this home thing now, you have a way of filling the thing that really represents a similar method to charging an ev. But when you're driving around in this hydrogen car, it operates just like a gas car with a lower pressure hydrogen setup. So let's pretend for a second everyone was single. If you went home with somebody and they had some mysterious thing in their bedroom and you were like, what is it? And they were like, making hydrogen for my hydrogen car. Thoughts? Thoughts. I'd ask if they brewed their own beer. How old am I during this rendezvous? You are current. That's a deal. Current, no. Let me teach where they went to school. If the answer wasn't three levels of grad school, I would leave immediately. There's no way I could perform if I'm worried about a hydrogen explosion, because this person's like, oh, I graduated high school and just figured this out. No. If someone has built their own hydrogen versus they have a unit that's clearly a thing that is purchased and designed to do this. No, no. If there's no company name, like, welded nicely on that. And it's just pvc. So, like, I'm sure Hannah's told you the story about our first date. When she came, I got her to come back to my place. I don't know if she has told me. She did tell me that she learned about, like, traction before your first date in order to decide whether or not she wanted to date you. Traction. Yeah, about, like, tire. Tire patch and contact. God, do I know how to do it. Yeah, truly. Truly. It is amazing that anyone in this room has a partner. Go on. No, but I. I mean, I don't anymore, but. Well, you know, that is the widow seat. Yeah, but it wasn't for that reason. Fair enough. She was rescued from you. Yeah. You did have a partner, and she liked you, and I know that. So it's not. It's not quite the same as having a science. Science experiment, but I did a dab in front. When I used to do dabs. I did a dab in front of Hannah on our first date, and she went into the bathroom and called her brother because she thought I was, like, smoking crack. And he had to explain to her what a dab was. And it. You know, it does look like drugs. So she was. She was right to do that. It looks like drugs. Because it is. I have to break off a piece of golden glass. It's where weed becomes drugs. Yeah. Way back when, when I was in college and I was dating, I did go on a date with someone who, in the car, before we went into the club, was like, I need to do this. I was recently diagnosed with diabetes, and to this day, I am not sure that he wasn't actually. Wait, what did they do? Yeah, he, like. He shot up. Yeah. Wait, wait. No, no. Did he. No, no. He was. He had diabetes. He didn't. Did it involve a tourniquet? Yeah. No, it did not involve a tourniquet. Then I think you're safe. If. If someone shot up and their behavior didn't immediately become jelly, then they were probably. I was kind of a pretty chill guy to begin with. Chris Moltisanti fell asleep. I don't know. It was in the dark, in A car. Direction of needle is very important. You guys are so. Or angular. It was right in the butt, actually. Which is weird, right? And then we went to the gym. Yeah, it wasn't a great date. He fought somebody. I'm not sure why. Lifted a car. I feel like Alana's the perfect guest to fucking drop a couple of car. You garbage questions. Sure. Yeah. You probably have yes to a couple of these. Sorry, I'm just laughing because I know it's probably true. Have you ever used a gas station squeegee to clean something that's not glass? Oh, yeah. Sometimes the birds poop in weird places. Yeah, they do. Yeah, they do. Have you. Let's see. Have you ever installed a novelty shift knob or a steering wheel? Crank knob? Brody knob. I have not installed a Brody knob. I have driven cars that have had Brody knobs. And please rate on a 1 to 10 scale the Brody knob knob's usefulness in the particular situations in which you used it. Well, since the situation was looking cool as fuck, the answer is great. It was great. I had a Lyft driver use one last year. Oh, that's shocked to see. Unusual on a new car. That doesn't seem like they would be smooth enough. No. You know, you'd get in an old car that kind of power steering really works. Circulating balls. And you can kind of just giant and catch. Catch like a drift car, but not. Have you ever reinforced a seat with pillows, blankets, tape or clothing? Have I ever not. I have actually stolen pillows from hotels so that I could successfully drive supercars that don't have movable seats. So I can't reach the pedals. Oh, respect. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. To the hotel. Have you ever used anything besides a key to start the car? Of course I have. Are these questions people? Don't say. Yes, these are questions. Just for now. Did you use a screwdriver? Okay. Has your car ever operated with fewer gears than it left the factory with? Do I have to add. Also known as the skip Hunt. Okay. Actually, so none of my. I have had transmission failures, but I have never actually had a partial transmission failure. So no. But I did drive a fairly new Lamborghini once. That first. An entire day. Just didn't have third gear. It was an E gear car. Just didn't. It was a paddle shift car. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it didn't have it even in like its own linkage issues where the transmission gear is not broken. But. But you just can't put the transmission into a different gear. I Mean, look, the question is 12. Why? Because I didn't define. I think define it. Probably go to jail or not. Probably during the roadkill. Probably during the roadkill days, I drove cars that didn't go into their gears. But I don't consider those my cars. That was what the definition of is is. And lastly, have you ever used another car's license plate on a car of yours? Have you ever rode dirty like that? No. No. I am extremely law abiding. I've ridden very dirty. Yeah. No, I have not. Ask you the three important questions and then we will swap you out. Yeah, I'll go find somebody better and more interesting for somebody. Bet. Who is over there with a beard? Johnny Lieberman. Johnny. Oh, wow. My. These glasses don't work from. These are for here. These are here glasses. Yeah, these are here glasses. The old man glasses. These are for here, not for there. These are here. If you're up stomach. Do you need glasses for here or there? Yeah. Do you have a degree? Okay, question number one. We started the podcast in. In 2012, beginning of 2012. What were you doing in the beginning of 2012? Okay. I believe that I had just started at Hot Rod because I was here at a very early podcast. Although I don't believe I was a guest. I think I had come with someone else who was a guest and I. I just was supervising in the old building. I feel like you came with Aaron Robinson. Maybe. Maybe Aaron or Corey. No, maybe. I think it was Aaron. Yeah. Okay, cool. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So. But I think I just. I had just started at Hot Rod. I had just left the con media PR position and I had officially moved to journalism. Okay. And now look at you. And now look at me. Yeah, that's amazing. Okay, number two is best road trip ever. Not hypothetical. One you've actually done. Oh my God, this is really hard. My entire life is good road trips. I know, it's. It's hard. We live in a curated road trip existence. Okay. One of. I'm not gonna say this is the very best one, but this is a. Was an excellent road trip was when the Hellcat first came out. The Hellcat Charger at Hot Rod. Brandon Gillogly, who now works at Haggerty and I and a videographer from Hot Rod went on a road trip in a Hellcat Charger. And we did kind of like our own private one lap of America where we, our goal was to hit five drag strips in five days and run an 11 second quarter mile at each one. And we did do that one drag strip we hit a 12 at because it was like 112 degrees and there was just no frickin way. But yeah, so it was the three of us and then we had a slick in the trunk and a slick in the backseat and we just like hauled ass. We went from hellcat. Not run elevens without slicks. Well, it wasn't like a slick. It was like a cheater slick versus the compound. Yeah. Sounds like it just burns the tires, the hat all the way down the quarter mile. That was actually 2015 Yandere. But that was. You didn't say it had to be in 2012. You just said what was my best road trip. Oh, that's true. Sorry. I. I'm sorry. You see, what's happened is I drank some of this rocket fuel. I know this is very strong. It's a very strong alcohol. Marco, get in there. Your. Your first appearance on the show was eight years ago. Yeah. Your first solo show, 2017, you know. Yeah. There you go. Just want a little tiny splash of water. I apologize for conflating your responses. No, no, that's okay. I mean, you did. That is a very good road trip. You did sign. It was a great road trip. We, at one point, we. We like tried to make waffles on the supercharger because it has that like waffle. Did that even come close? No, it did not work. It was a real mess. We had to clean it up. Oh my God, what a disgusting mess that was. We once saw. I once judged a 24 hours of lemons race. And one of the side things was using your engine to cook with. So most people used it as a small source of heat. One guy rigged up on top of his supercharger an extruder, which is the thing that like Cheetos are made of. And this guy just like fired up. He filled the hopper and like fired up the engine and it just started basically shooting unflavored Cheetos all over the patio. I bet you could do that with like a pasta maker. Probably. That sounds amazing. Dude. He was over cranking this thing by probably 200%. It was ripping. It eventually tore itself to shreds when he hit the gas. See, that is. We were talking about off roading earlier. And cooking on the engine is perfect for off roading because you throw your wrapped burritos onto the engine at the beginning of the trail ride and by the time you get to your lunch stop, they're ideal. Great system. We did a cooking that's beat me. Are you garbage cooked with a Car. Yeah, my favorite car. You garbage. I wrote 130 questions and my favorite one that I do. You. Okay. Just, like, we won't do this here live unless I stay all day, but maybe down the road, we'll. We'll do it privately. Do you think that my answer to every one of your questions is yes? No, not every one of them. Because they're not all, like, I've chosen not all. Are you actually garbage? I've chosen ones that are more, like, for you. Like, for instance, give me one that I'll say no to. Okay. Like, have you ever intentionally abandoned or had disappeared a car? I did once leave a car that then got towed and we never bothered to pick it up. That counts. Actually. That's a yes. That's a yes. Okay. Do you have on your car or any car you have. Do you have a political sticker for a non politician? For instance, Dan Gurney for president? Yeah, no, I actually don't really like to have stickers on my car. Okay. So. Yeah, so that's a no. Have you ever used a garbage bag as a window? I have put plastic in a car window. Yeah, well, that counts. I mean, listen, I think you'd probably bat over 500. Okay. You need to. So I do think that you should text them to me and then we'll find out and you can report back on one of your later episodes. Well, like, I do. I mean, I really love pen and paper. So these were obviously all original, originally written by hand. I do have them on a. You can just take a photo and you can just, like, why? Tom was just telling me that his brother has been driving. So my husband and his brothers own a music store called Prodrum Shop, which I'm representing. And. And he was telling me that his brother has been driving some of their suppliers crazy because he has this habit of handwriting part numbers on, like, a notepad and then just taking a photo and texting it to them as, like, an order. And they're like, yeah, no, we need a PO number, dude. Like, everyone on both sides is going insane. That's how I run my business. Yeah, no, that's a no. And on that note. Okay, wait, no, the third question. The third question. Although I suppose the Karu garbage questions didn't cover, but we should be consistent. This one's going to be outside of your wheelhouse because it's not how you normally live your life. I give you $10 million right now that you have to spend on cars. So many dollars by the end of the day. 10 million. I spend on cars. 10 million by the end of the day. Are you Brewster's million? One day. Okay, that's your day rate for being on the show. Yeah. What are we buying? Oh, okay. I mean, I don't have paper, so I can't do the math, but I'm getting a mira, so that's most of it. And then two and a half. Yeah, that's a quarter. Last gen Viper. That's you. That's 50 grand. Oh, last gen Viper. Okay. No, that's 110. I'll give you 200. Yeah, yeah. Let's say ACR, so that's 200. Okay, so now we're two and three quarters. Fuck it, call it three. Yeah. Okay. Seven million left to spend. All right, no problem. Big. Big block Cobra for Tom. He wants one. There's a mil and a half. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. And one for you too, while you're at it. So much room, you know? Yeah. Simpler time. I don't like them that much. All right, great. We're at three. I like the small blocks better. Yep, you're right. I've heard that from a lot of people. 100%. Yeah, me too. Small blocks are way better. They are way better. Let's see, what else do I want? Let's get a wing card match with the Viper. Oh, okay. All right. Best one in the world. Call it a million bucks. All right, Jen, an FF. The all wheel drive one. Okay. 1750. No, they're. They're actually pretty expensive. Good FF is expensive. Yeah, they're like in the. All right, so you're like. You're, like in the fives somewhere. Yeah. EO Grifo. A big block one with the. With the pagoda. A good eso grifo will get you. All right, let's call that a million bucks. Best one in the world. Yeah. Okay. Okay, so now you're. You got 3 million more to spend. 3 million more to spend. And I already have a garage. Right? Yeah. In this imaginary scenario, no expenses, no buyer's premiums. Let's go ten tough sheds. Okay. Okay. What. What else do I want? What else do I want? Oh, gtr. Like a. Like a. Like a Skyline. Yeah. Best one in the world. 500 grand. Okay. Two and a half million to spend. All right. Hard. It gets hard towards the end. Zuckerman did it with one car. I'm sure they did. I'm sure they did. I'm going. But why would I. But if you're not. If you're not gonna do it with one car, I'm Not. Yeah, I'm not interested that way. You're their answer. But was it a 917k? No, it was a Ferrari 250. Yeah, see that? Okay, you know what? You could. I mean, you could offer me one and I would say yes, and then I would sell it, and then I would buy all of these other cars because I got zero interest in. That's called doing a Myron Vernus. Amazing. How about like a Stratos something? Yeah. Okay. Million bucks. All right. Got a million and a half left to spend. Let's do another launch here. Let's do a delta. Delta. 40 grand. No, best one in the world. 200 grand. Okay. Nicest one in the world. Keep going, keep going. Got a million bucks left. Oh, what's the pretty? Toyota 2000. Oh, 2000 GT. There's a million bucks. Done. That's a very well rounded collection. Thank you very much. When do they come to my house? They're. They'll be delivered this week. Great. Can't wait. Okay, send me. Send me J.F. you want a J.F. back? You want J.F? unless a new person. Okay, I'll find out. Thanks, everybody. How about surprise me? Thank you. Alana Shear of Car and Drive Driver. We love you so much. Can we go minus two? Zach? Maybe. What? Keep it chill. Minus two? How come? Check engine light hasn't been lit. That's too bright. It's really bright. Yeah, it's a fabulous piece. Like, it messes up the color temp of for the camera. Interesting. Yeah. Right. Okay. Because I was like, it's definitely not a BMW part. If it's because it's work, it's not working. It's not on. Are you planning on going? Are you thinking you're gonna go to pebble beach this year? I'm not making it. No, no. I got too much going. Too much works. Well, it's. It's work adjacent, so. More most importantly, our friend Thaddeus now works for you. Tell us how good or bad of an employee he is. He's listening. Christian, hand is in the house. And JF at least it's cool in there. Tighten that. Christian. Huh? What do you want? You came in the studio for a trash can. Who did this? Who needs to be make yourself? I don't know. Probably our housekeeper. Honestly, Terrible. Oh, boy. Okay. Hi, Jeff. Because if you don't hear me, let me know. Sorry you got JF Got lightly hosed earlier. Why'd you get lightly hosed? Just because. Whatever walked in and then. That's okay. No, There was just other conversation happening while JF Was here instead of him. But. But JF Would you like to sit down? I'm good. Are you sure? Unless you got another chair. We don't. We don't. Was an empty offer. You'll be tall, but that's okay. Yeah, there can be five if they know how to behave themselves. Are the. Do the cameras need to be adjusted, Zach? We'll see once he chooses his seating position. Christian Hand, what are we talking about back in the hot seat? How terrible everything is. Oh, great. Strong start. I'm here for it. I let the kids let Cheese fidgeting with the goddamn microphone. What are. You can't do this because then you're aiming that way and then you can do this. Which puts you back in the hot seat talking to everybody. Oh my God. There we go. Look at that. Are you good now? Perfect. Are you. Are you okay? He's wearing the cans too. He's like ready. That's because you should wear cans if you're broadcasting. You non radio fucking heretics. I've done my time in radio. Yeah, that's why you're. You can't be hurt because you're. You have to either be. Wear cans or be very loud. Naturally, then it works itself out. But you notice that when you do this, it sounds like. You can't tell because none of that headphones on because you're ranked amateurs. But when you Talk into an SM7B with this proximity, it reduces the proximity effect and you sound professional. Get your tongue on the tip, as it were. Yeah, it looks like you're just gargling balls. What are you doing? See this? Yeah. That's the inside of an SM7. The secret of the SM7B. This distance, ladies and gentlemen. Oh, the inner. The distance. Like if you're at the touching the end. If you're talking to the end. Tell you something about the SM7B. We could talk about Eurospec headlights or the technological. Yeah, I don't want to get. For those listening. Christian. James Hand has removed the. So when you speak like this, you'll notice that it sounds professional. Whereas if you have it away from you and you have this distance. Yeah, no, I know. It's worse. It's worse because this is what the thing. So this was created specifically for radio. Right. And the thing with radio DJs is that you want to be close up so you don't have any of the room reflections. But if you have the diaphragm right against the cage. This distance, you'd get a lot of plosives, so they moved it. But then the diaphragm in this thing is super heavy, which is why you need a really good preamp to power it, which is why most people who plug them into, like an sm, like a little Scarlet to do their podcast. Why does it sound like. So we have the cloud things. That's why you have the cloud lifters. So this is made for you to talk like this. And it'll never concuss because the morning show DJs will be like. And then you never get any of that. Is that. Why was it F1 in UK they have the microphones where it's. Yeah, yeah. Brilliant, consistent. And it has the nose. But it looks funny. It looks funny. And it's like the cricket guys have it and everything and it creates like this uniform sound because everyone sort of has no, no. So they got tired of telling everybody, no closer, no closer. You all hold this to make it touch your mouth and then you're done. This is designed specifically to allow you to do this. So now you know. How do you feel about peaking now? No, I, I. What about JF's microphone? How is it designed? That's just a regular SM58, I believe. Or is that a beta? Can you take that off us down? So it's a Sennheiser. It's a sennheiser version of a 58. It's nice. You know, it's not going to sound as good as an SM7B. It also doesn't have a cloud lifter on. So those are the ones from our old studio. Like it now we use them as party mic. The old dentist's office studio. Yeah. For rent, if anyone needs it. That was the first place I came and visited you at. Yeah. Completely forgot about that place. Yeah. Remember, it was like I was literally like a dentist office. It was a dentist above or below or next door. We were above. But our office had exactly the same footprint as the mirroring dentist office below it. And our landlord was a dentist and he was my dentist. Was he really? Yeah. So good. And in the last couple years before he retired, he got like major Fox News brain. And I started to be all, hey, hey, Doc, shut the fuck up and get the fucking scrubbing. And he's all, you know, you can't even go outside anymore. Listen. And then when he retired finally, and we built this and moved over here, I had to find a new dentist. So of course I looked. Where would I look? Hannah's dentist. So I started going to Hannah. Which is a. My dentist retired because he was 75. Hannah's dentist is a new dentist in Santa Monica. And I went for the first time. And they're all. How often do you, like, go to the dentist? And I'm like, you know, every six months or whatever. Three, four months, whatever it was. And they go, huh? What the. What are you talking about? And they go, was your dentist, like, old? And I go, yeah, he just retired, like, six months ago because he was, like, 75. And they're like, oh, boy. One of the OG homie was fucking doing dentistry like he learned to do in fog in the Civil War. Yeah. Like having you do a shot of whiskey and bite on the leather strap mowers themselves. Good Lord. Yeah. You don't have to concern yourselves with back teeth. They clean themselves. Turns out we had some catching up to do. Just take them out, man. Well, then, you know, like, from the dentist's office to here in a thousand episodes, so. Well done. How does it feel? Like a thousand episodes. Like, at this point, did you think it'd get this far? Did you think it would get. Never even thought that far ahead. No, seriously, my. A thousand is, like, impressive. And I remember when you, like, came up with the name Smoking Tire back in. It was before you. That was. Yeah. 09. Yeah. It took a long time to come up with. I can't believe you've. It's. It's crazy. What the. Do you have? Do you remember what the other candidates were? The leading candidate was. It was like. I think it was called Drivers Anonymous, and it was like, alcoholic. I started. Hi, I'm Matt and I'm a driver. It was like, so. It was so. Great hook, kid. Great hook. Look, you know what I mean? It's gonna look great on a T shirt. It's gonna look good on a coffee mug. Yeah, you really thought about a lot. I remember in those times, you're like, I'm. I gotta do. I gotta do something. And I was like, oh, it took. It took months to come up with that name. That was not. That was not. Yeah. I have pages and pages. My very first random notebook of terrible names. It was a good name I remember hearing. I was like, it's Drivers Anonymous. Driver's Anonymous was right there, though. Yeah, it was right there. Do you remember that? What was it, the top three? No, but I could dig out. I absolutely have the notebook. Do you keep all your notebooks? I was asking that earlier. You have every single one of them. Yeah, I've gone through. Hannah just did this Because I have three pages left of this notebook. And so I was trying to decide what my next notebook is going to be. It's a big deal. It's about 18 months of notebook. Every page, both sides. Moleskine or what do you got? No, look at this one. This is karst stone. Feel this. This is stone paper. Feel heavy. That is. The paper is made of. I have to crush down. I gotta open the thing. Listen, I might have an ulterior motive. Crushed, crushed, recycled stone. So here, take. Take this pen and, and. And write a little bit on it. I knew I was here for a reason. Listen, I've passed many tools in my day. Not above it. It's good. I don't want to up your book. It's okay. Just, just right. It's very. It's very luxurious to write on, but the ink takes a long time to dry on that type of paper. So if you close the book quickly, it bleeds. So I think I might go anyway. Point being. Yeah, it's like. It's like a project car. Thanks for that. Smooth. That's a good book. That's a really good book. It is, but we're going to go. We were looking for book and I found that in from the beginning. I have nine filled notebooks. Oh, I thought there'd be more than that. No, it takes a lot. Have you ever lost a book? I lost a book and recovered it. Oh, that's good. Yeah, I lost a book and then someone found it and sent it back to me. Oh, nice. Amazing. It had a lot. You've always been very used to like, write my like Internet passwords in the back. Yeah, it was a very bad. I do remember like coming in your old place and you just like, you do your to do list. You always have like, you are always writing in a book and I was always. Yeah, well, it's lists, lots of lists. I would forget. If I don't write some shit down, I'll forget it immediately. And just the volume of incoming, it has to be put into lists. And I just love. Actually one of my questions that I wrote was like, what's a thing that has been quote, approved, improved on digitally, but where you prefer the analogy one like, I like, I do pen and paper. I don't care for any type of digital note taking. Likewise. Same with you. Yeah, yeah. Like people like, dude, I use Apple notes all the time. Like that you retain the knowledge better when you write it down. Yeah, you're thoughtful over there. So like it's. It's not there. It's like a physical thing that you. I burn them. I burn them when they're done. Physically burn the books. Physically burn the books. Is that. Well, what's in the books? I mean, is it. Is it. Is it. Is it that? It's. Yeah. Okay, so password me. Me burning my to do list. I don't think would mean. It's like me burning how much I hate Scary Spice, you know, like that's. It's literally your own private burning man. Yeah, right. That makes sense. You know, sweep the. The whole thing out of the. It's gone. Sure, you can move on. But that's the thing. But I've already selected my next notebook. It's from the existing stock. Not. Not a new notebook. And weird twist. We're going back to a soft cover. Oh, wow. Which is really going to be. I don't know how long it's going to last, but we're going to try. Why the soft cup? Because it was just available picked it out. I have like almost 30 of them from press launches and stuff and it's driving Hannah insane. So we went through and we found eight or nine that we both determined. Under no circumstances would we pick. Would we choose to use shout out to Corvette for having two out of the nine, the C7 and C8. Like. Nah. The gift press journal was duty. Well, almost all of them were pressed from press. Yeah. And so they're all stamped like Land Rover or whatever. The one that I ended up choosing was a Porsche one, but the one with the Corvette had like a big cowboy like belt. The elastic straps like. Nah, that shit's been in my closet for like 10 years. Just for me to go the best part way. You just put it back. Yeah. You moved it from the Venice house to this one. We didn't throw them in the garbage. We gave them to Hannah's friend whose kids love to draw. Perfect. So we gave all of those ones then that. We're never going to use these in into to that. Right? Yeah. So we cleared out a nice. Notebooks are important. Pens are. Pens are really important. Notebooks are really important. Prep on people you interview in those books. Do you do research? Yeah, usually. Okay. Yeah. Why? I was just curious. Oh yeah. You know this show, like you don't. You rarely talk about kind of the origins of it all and then thousands episodes in those. Like, I mean, because it's so funny, we don't actually do that good a job of like looking back or forward. We just. It's like today in the present, you're in the present, it's just like, you know? I know, but you're a thousand episod. Don't you reflect on that. I'm like, no, that's kind of where. That's kind of where I'm going with this. What was. What was your. Okay, question. You've been asking questions. What was your least favorite. What was your least favorite. Yeah, and most favorite episode? And name the guests. Yeah, you have to name the guests again. My favorite episode of the podcast. That's. That's, like. That's, like, impossible. Is it? It's really hard for me. It's always the ones where. Where there's, like, the most jokes. I mean, when we had the big Drive podcast, where it was like, all of us plus Harris plus Musto, plus Spinelli, and it was madness, but it was just bits and voices and laughter. Like, that was insane. But those are super duper fun. Like, that's. That's what I love about it. Yeah, that's weird. It's. No, Matt has to say his favorite first. Come on. You gotta have some. One that's, like, stood out to you. That was like. I mean, there's there the, like, the one. It's. What's up? This is kind of my favorite bit of radio I've ever done is actually not this show. It's the Watch podcast that we did where I. Where I caught. It's the episode called Carl Ruins Everything, where Carl came in and like, a just steamroller just destroyed and completely reshaped my taste in watches in, like, 90 minutes in a way that I have never. Has never been undone. Like, he was completely right about everything he said. And that's your favorite. And just, like, set me on a path that was, like, the correct one before I even knew it was the correct one. Like, I would have ended up in the same place eventually, but he was like, no, no, you just start going this way today. I love that. I asked a question about this podcast. You referenced another one. Well, I mean, he never did this podcast. No, he did. He did this podcast once or twice. Right. Didn't Carl come do our podcast? So I don't think I was on it when he did it, but. No, he did. I went to New York restaurant right before he died. Right. Months before he died. No, I mean, we've gotten to talk to some, like, pretty amazing people that we wouldn't have otherwise gotten to talk to, and it's just. It's a fun way to. To let the rest of the world in on the conversations that you're having with your friends because apparently those are interesting to people that are out there. If you're an expert in something. Your dad episode was good. People seem to like that. That was my least favorite episode. Prove it. I've listened to it twice, especially interacting with your dad. He's just like. It's. Yeah. I mean, it's funny because that, that one could be it. Because I've spent, like, 25 years trying to escape his shadow. And I'll have people come up to me in the street, and the very first thing they say is, I love the thing you did with your dad. And they mean well, and it's. They're not being. But I'm just like, I will never escape, ever. There's, like, my favorite thing that you built of. The thing you built is the thing with your dad was on. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. But that's where. All right, so having worked with my father for 25 years. Yeah. Or 20 years before he passed away. Did you keep working with him after he passed away? In my mind, yeah. In my brain. It was a real Weekend at Bernie situation. Situation. This guy can't hold a wrench for. You know, when you've got access to a lift, what I'm getting at is I go for it. You know, go for it. That was so up. When you've got. When you have air tools at a lift, you could really go on with what you're saying. Well, I was gonna say for him, I just. I, I. Well, what I meant was he met you where you are, as opposed to you being in his shadow. He came to you and did your podcast, and that's saying something like, he wanted to do that with you, and you guys have that thing you can now share forever. It's cool. And it's like, as if we're talking about a worst. That's like, that's not the worst. There's definitely. I can't remember it, but I'm sure there's shows we did where I said something incredibly horrible that I would be ashamed of. Well, we had those shows, and then we also had guests that aren't good at caring that. We've had plenty of guests. Some racing. Racing drivers, where you toss them the ball and then they catch it and they just hold the conversation ball. They don't throw it back, and they don't really keep the game going. They're just like, huh? And they drop it, and then they just look at you, like, waiting for you. To volleyball. The worst. It's brutal. They've had an interesting Life. Like, right, tell us about winning Daytona. Like, oh, yeah, that was pretty hard. Well, the problem with that is that they're just so media trained a certain point, they don't know how to escape it. Right. And they. Yeah, their brains go just mush. And for so long, we really believed that, like, the show was guest driven, which it actually isn't or shouldn't be. Howard Stern was a universe. Right. Or is it universe? Howard Stern had his own little characters and people would listen to that, while he also had celebrities on sometimes. So it was the same learning that we had. We did a lot of shows, particularly for the first five or 600, that were, quote, guests driven, where just the need to have a guest brought substandard guests. And not necessarily people we don't like, but like, people we might love but, like, who should not be broadcasting. Right. You know, so what was the worst? I don't mean I don't know. No, I gen. No, I genuinely couldn't tell you. Like, we've done so many that I've. I've suppressed my people. I'm sorry, Christian. I. I just did a podcast with somebody and I was like all, nice to meet you. And he was like, I was on your podcast. Couldn't have told you that. No idea. Like, no. Oh, cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, Jay Leno is forgettable. I mean. Yeah, yeah. Right. Yeah. My worst radio interview was John Doe from X Live at the Knott's Berry Farm opening party for some fucking new ride that they. They'd invented. And John Doe could name you 7 million other places he would have rather been that at Knott's Berry Farm at the opening of, like the parachute ride. And I just sat there asking him questions and getting. Yeah, no, for 10 minutes of that. And like Dave Letterman describes it as the room starts to fill up with saliva. That's what it felt like. Yeah. Awesome. Yeah. And then the lead singer of Filter telling me to go myself because I brought up Nine Inch Nails. That was a good one. But when you've. That's the thing in the music world is you get who will just tell you how it is. Whereas I don't think that you guys necessarily have dealt with. Who'll just be like, if you're coming here, you're coming here to do a thing. Right? Yeah. Shoved into a radio station. Yeah. No, no. We've never had someone come into our studio. Garbage. They just destroy us. I think we're lucky in that regard. There's no marketing team that can usher them in here without us. Also clearing, right? Yeah, yeah. No, this was, like, forced upon me and them. You know what I mean? It's like, no one wants to be in that room. Nobody wants. Listen, buddy, neither of us want this, okay? Let's get through this together. The. The Richard Patrick, when I was on stage in front of, like, 8,000 people, and he walks over and. And I was like, all right, you know, get to find common ground with your guest, right? Like, immediately break it down. And you had to do that very quickly, especially in front of an audience. So I was like, hey, man, I saw you play with nine inch nails in, like, 91. Or whenever. Whenever it was at the, you know, Academy in New York or the Ritz in New York. And he looks at me and he goes, yeah, I'm tired of giving that free press. We're done here. And I was like, ladies and gentlemen, Richard Patrick Filter. Interview over. One question, one answer, nothing. That was it. And he walked upstage, and I'm just standing there in front of 8,000 people like. Like the. That filling up with spit was up to the neck. You know what I mean? I want to throw it. Jeff, who is your least favorite OEM to film for? Oh, do you really put me on the spot there? You want me to throw people on? You're like, who is your least favorite guest telling the name ones that are out of business right now. You don't have to answer this question. Showing you what it. What it's like sob. Yeah, they were nothing like airplanes. What's so. What's so bad about that question? Is that people that those companies may be out PR people. I don't want you to answer it. I'm just telling you how it feels, what you're asking. Hey, guys, what was your least. No, no. Name the person who want names genuinely, like, the question came from, like, I. You guys have done so much and just trying to understand, like, your path here and understanding what you enjoyed about it. Like, you've done a lot. I was figuring you're gonna bring up the. Your father's episode. Like, that was. I mean, like, that was a good. That was really good. Let's talk more about your dad. Yes. Now he's better than you and greater and accomplished more with his life. Absolutely. But over to you now. You know what I'm saying? What do you got? What's great? Pull up. He managed, you know, he managed like 50, 50,000 people and made, like, tens of millions of dollars. You have a pot. You've really talked a lot. You've really talked a Lot and drew a great many segments. You've done a thousand of these, whereas your dad has. I mean, look, my dad is. What's awesome about him is he's like, he's a genius. But it's hard to describe that to people. But when they hear him talk, it's like, oh, of course he is. I can hear it in him, how he talks. He's a genius. So it's nice that people get to understand that. And he's also a good person, so that helps, too. And he has good practical advice, and he's managed a lot of people, and he managed to keep a very level head about himself while doing very high pressure things, which is hard. It's very hard to do that. So I'm glad people get to see it and appreciate it and go, holy shit, That's. That's not a fluke. That guy. Yeah, he deserves something. I don't, but he does. But like, it's. But. But me sitting down and talking to my dad about things for an hour and a half is not unusual to me. So I'm glad everyone appreciated it. But it's not like doing that was some kind of special moment, because we do that shit all the time, just without SM7B's, right. But it is a more formal setting in which you can ask questions, more pointed questions and maybe questions. Yes. All right. The wrangler is. Is. Is booting, people. I want all three of you gone. And I want Vin and Ron. I want Vin and Ron. We love you guys. Thank you, jf. Oh, there's. Yo. We have two more hours of this. Some waters or something in here? No, I'm okay. Thank you. Actually, yeah, can you get some more for the them? Sorry to keep you guys waiting. It's all good. One and one. Great to see you. What up? Good to see you. Welcome. Get comfortable. Yeah, we need some waters, please. Yeah. Oh, cold water would be a delight. Thank you. I am feeling so bolstered. Thanks. Are you feeling comfy? Want to put this in race car? The mic will meet you where you need it to be. You don't need headphones? No. Christian was just lecturing us on audio quality, so that's why we have the headphones out. He does that, though. You know what? What's going on? This is a great segue because I was panicking because I wanted to go to the bathroom first. Party mic. Hang on. Okay. You what? I was panicking because I wanted to go to the potty first. And I think if I had a like, eight hour Podcast a thon. I would be embarrassed of how many times I'm taking pe. Oh, no, we're just. We're just doing it. That's why the chair's backwards. Cuz he's got like a NASA type. Imagine a little. Guys, every like 15 minutes you're going to hear a Matt's like, I've just been pissing my pants. No, you know what? Like, we. I put a lot of pressure on us to. To do this right and whatever, but at the same time, in order to enjoy it, bodily functions can need to be able to happen. We can't put with that much pressure. Thank you guys so much for coming though. No, thanks for having. This is awesome. Awesome to be here. Thank you guys are doing it. I love this yellow, yellow evo you got. That's a good time. Yeah, it's really fun. Is it? Yeah. Thank you. Hannah, do you have anything to say? I can turn the party mic back on. Are you okay? No, I have no. No more announcements at this time. Okay. Thanks. Is everybody having fun outside? Oh, my God. Oh, they are nice. Little time second. We should have had a. Like a remote mic. Like a. Like one of those, like. Like a confessional booth. We just like set up. Set that up on the side. Like, what are you drinking? So this is. Do you know this was Johnny's. Did he not talk to you about this? No, he wouldn't shut the up about it. Can I have some? Yeah, you can. It's very expensive, rare and delicious. And look at the alcohol percentage. Just to know what you're getting. 69%. Did you round up yours? Yours more? Your one is slightly more. Okay, this is 68. Yeah, one is 68, one is 69. Okay. You have a little bit of like, you're. You're feeling good. So I was like, I want to feel. I want to feel good too. I want all the time. Boys. That's such a great moment. Boys, welcome. Welcome On a thousand episodes. Congratulations, y'all. So many achievement. Well, first off, you guys both look different for some reason. And Zach, your hair looks incredible. It keeps growing. You look like a billionaire with your hair like that. I look like one. But I'll tell you, I have a new look. This is my. What changed about you? I had the full beard instead of the goatee. Full beard baked on top is. You look nice. You like it? Eyeglasses are nice too. I'm also wearing glasses, which I don't. Yeah. So I often joke that my facial recognition software. My brain is broken. I can't Like, I. Like, I can't distinguish features on people. If I saw you out of context, I'd walk right by you and not even notice. Like, something is broken with. No, no. This happens to me all the time. If you're not leaning on your car, I don't know you. Oh, you want to know something about that? Yeah. Okay. Okay. And there's a second level to that, too, but go, I want to hear yours. Here's a really funny story about that, Matt. We met multiple times when I was at Hoonigan, and then I would meet you many times after, and I'd be like, matt never remembers me. Oh, my God. Oh, dude. I would always be like, what's up, man? Absolutely. I could tell he doesn't know to be like, from Hoonigan. He's like, oh, yeah, what's up? But I have the same problem. It's just happened. So I came in and I looked at both of you guys. I was like, okay. You're like, which one? That looks different, but I don't know why. I have no idea what's changed. I was like, but he looks different. Zach looks handsome as. I don't know why. He looks like. He's just like, out of a magazine. The dollar jacket. So funny. Go to the garage. He'd be like, you put clear corners on that? Yeah. Oh, yeah, man. Did you go up from a 245 to a 255 on the front? That looks great. See, a little more brake dust. You're running ceramics now. Yeah. God, the car. The car guy brain is so bad. I am a lizard. I have nothing outside where I autopilot. And now, like, you know, I'm smoking weed again. So now it's like. Now it's like, am I supposed. Are you a fan? You know, you guys know someone comes up and they're like, yo, what's up? And it's like, you know, industry. Are you a fan or. Or have I know you from a previous? You literally live across the street from me, and I see you every day. But now you're in a totally different context. I'm so happy that that's a shared problem, because I. And especially with the whole, like, kind of being digitally famous thing, where like, sometimes, yeah, it's like some fans come up and they act really friendly, familiar. And you're like, do I know this person? Well, because you've been talking to them for, like, years. Years. But they haven't talked to you as if you're Seinfeld. The approach is Totally different. He knows he doesn't know them, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Well. And there's a thing about YouTube and Instagram in general. Like there's way more of a familiarity. There's less of a wall there instead of, you know, the full on like TV production, crazy show, everything. Well, I remember vividly we were with Ken Block at a Chipotle outside Apple Ventures Valley and somebody came up and was like, excuse me, is that Ken Block? We're like, yeah. And he's like, can you see if it's okay if I say hi? Famous. Yeah. You're a YouTuber. You could be mid bite with your butt crack sticking out and someone just like, what's up, dude? Cuz they're. Cuz in their. I think in their head they go, oh, you're famous, but you're not that famous. Like I can still approach you. It's approachable famous. Which to still be an overstep. Yeah. I think my fans are more awkward and introverted than most. Hannah will always find them and bring them straight to me. Hell yeah. That's what the wife does. Engineering students are fun because they're into cars, but they're engineers. And Sarah spotted one. The guy had like MIT racing. And he was like looking really weird. And she went, that's a sick shirt. It was something like that. And she's like, go say hi. And he's like, oh, hey, how's it going? I like your show. It's adorable. On the facial. Right. Recognition thing. That's brutal. Not recognizing people that, you know. David from Santa Clarita Porsche Gunther works. He was at the Ken Block thing. Yeah. Not wearing a hat. And he said hi to me. We were talking and I'm like, I'm sorry, what's your name? And he's like, it's David. I was like, oh my God. I know you and you and you know and I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was just like, apologize. And I was like, I'm so sorry. Like what? You look different. He's like, I'm not wearing a hat. That's enough to throw me off. Clark Kent. Right? Like how. It's just glasses. Just. I just did it on you. Well, especially in the car world, there's like formula white guy. Right? Like, look at us. There's. It's a beard, a beanie or a flat bill is type thing. Only black. Is that a new. Is that a new racing series for real? No, that's pretty much. That's been the racing series for a long time with some Exceptions. You put, you put like five o'clock shadow and a hat on Zach and like he's just another one. That's right. Production. I looked exactly like all of you guys. There was a uniform. Yeah. I looked like you people. I look down, it's the same. Yeah, yeah. Formula white guy. Yeah. God, there's, there's a, there's. That's the car world. You go to any cars and coffee, that's what you see. Just look out and see if the amount of times people will talk to me thinking I'm Ron. That's like me and Ron are at least like similar heights. Like we have kind of like almost similar facial hair, whatever. But people come up to me and talk to me like I'm Scotto. And then I'll be like Audi. Oh, you're talking about Scotto. And I think I figured it out because we're all like the Hoonigan original guys. We're all pretty tall. Yeah. I mean me, Ron hurt Zach, Scotto, and then Dan, who's short and Scotto makes all of us look like normal. Normal sized. So on video Scotto scale. Yes, exactly. So in person, people probably meet me and they're like, oh, he's big. He must be Scotto. So funny, you know? And you're like, no, no, no, he's even bigger. There's an even taller man in this world. That's so funny. Yeah. Not two hours ago, Jay Leno was sitting in that chair. Oh my God, I'm sharing butt space with Leno. And he. And he did that. But with me and Johnny, he was like, he was like, you've got the GR Corolla, right? I'm. That's Johnny. He's there. Yeah. Again, yes, it's okay. And I but like interchangeable Jew. There you go. You know, but like I think there is a level to it and it's why I feel bad when I screw people up. Cuz like I'm at the core of nobody. Jay Leno. If I, if he even knew my name, I would introduce myself every time I saw him because I'd be like, you're so famous. Famous for decades. There's no way you remember at all. Someone so unmemorable. Dude, when the first time I knew that like Leno, Leno too, but like particularly Seinfeld. When Seinfeld did said something that proved he watched my videos, I was like, that video got $100,000. 100,000 views. And one of them was Jerry Seinfeld. Like, that's weird. And trippy but he made a very specific reference that proved he watched video background. He actually. No, no, he's into it. He's super into it. He watches a lot of our videos. We had a. We had a phone call back in the Hoonigan days. We were going to build a car for a certain rapper and Rocky's guy was like, yeah, no Rocky with you. He watches Hoonigan. I'm like, what? He might have seen my face and maybe know my name. What was I wearing that black shirt? Oh, I was FWG. Didn't they do that E30 giveaway? Was that ASAP? Rocky, the E30, that was like some street artist like did he got kind of hammered because it was an E30 M3 that they did like something. Well, he bought it from Zuckerman. Oh, no way. Yeah, it was a Sport evo with like 8,000 miles on it. They paid Zuckerman like all the money. Did they wrap it like something gross or whatever? They painted it? No, it was painted. Was our car, man. But they get. Dude, they. They did the duffel shuffle, dude. They paid it. They paid for it. Hell yeah. I love that straight green. I love that. Just like. Okay, cash on hand. But imagine it's. Imagine doing a giveaway car and you're going to paint an M3 and you use a Sport Evo. Low miles. That's cuz some people that have money, they don't understand the significance behind. But on the other car isn't special. And I don't know if we're like blowing up spots here, but. But you know, he did that whole thing, the testing album and he had that Mercedes. It was the SL 500. I don't know. It was like an older SL and you know in the video it's like, oh, cool. Looks like a vintage rally car and everything. And it was full Hollywood. Like the roll cage terminated. There was like aluminum foil. It was a picture car for sure. A picture car. Like handbrake not plumbed in everything. And then the cool thing was he wanted to build it to be legit. But you know what? I was dope. Did you see was. I think it was Bad Bunny. Was it Bad Bunny that did the Safari Rolls Royce? Oh no, I haven't seen that whistle And Diesel did one. I'm pretty sure it was Bad Bunny. Safari Rolls Royce. It was a. It was a corniche convertible safari. Damn, it was pretty. That's kind of slick. It was pretty slick. I was. I was definitely about it. Is that it? Yeah. Hang on. Is sick, right? Yeah. Take Our Instagram page off of there. Because. Yes. I mean, I mean, tell me that it's basically. Is that real? Why does it look like a render? It's. I don't know. But it is real. I've seen it. It's. It's like the Thomas Crown Affair Mustang but done to a Rolls Royce. Wow. Lifted flares, roll hoop with those smiley face fall like car builds out of hand. Isn't that dope though? It is. That's really sad. It's awesome. But like, if you like, I'm not kidding you, if you showed me that picture, I'd just be like, oh, AI right. Like this looks like a fake situation. Yeah. That's in Santa Monica by the way. And that's parked on a sidewalk. Yeah. Everything about. Everything about that photo could be fake. Just 100. But even if it wasn't these days, like the amount of builds that are happening and the level of builds these days, like that's like. All right, cool. So anyway, yesterday I was. Yeah, no, it's sick. But it's not like. It's not that crazy. Like it's. It's totally doable. But that's a sedan chopped into a convertible, lifted on safari style wheels with fender flares. And I just think it looks fabulous. Honestly. It really does. I'm 100% down for when they're. It's in Jewish racing gold. So it's ready to go. I'm telling you, my next car. Car, it's got. It's gotta be that. It's gotta be Jew. Okay. As a current owner. Okay, I gotta nail this pitch. Matt, you have a lot of money, right? Have you ever seen yourself driving a Ferrari 360? You don't want that anymore? No, I want it. But I mean I'd sell it to you for like, oh, triple market value. Sounds good because you're my friend. History of wasting money on stupid shit. Why not? Let's go. Well, I would like Turbo R and made out of profit. Almost at a profit, which is very impressive. Not quite, but almost. Yeah. That I strongly recommend. Yeah, I know. I feel like that car. Remember generational debt. Oh, yeah. If I had remembered this photo, I easily could have dropped another 50 into that turbo R. Imagine you made this? I could have been riding so dirty boys with bad bunny. Yeah. Yeah. This thing is really cool though. It's amazing. I love it. I give anyone props for building a Rolls Royce because when we did that one at Hoonigan, it was like incredibly difficult to do every single. Anything lug nuts on One side or reverse? Reverse. I had no idea. Why would you do that? Why would you do that? It also, it had like. That only had one way, mate. The guy that did that, worked on Spitfire. It was like two weeks prior. So he's like, all right, well, that's how we did it. So on one side of the car it was like righty tighty and the other side of the car lefty tighty. Yeah. Yeah. That's insane. Yeah, we. Forward on backward. Took us many hours of figuring that out to get the wheels off. It also had like portal axles, like a defender or something. Like it was like ridiculous because. Why not. Why not make. It had a drive shaft Guibo that was made out of like, like horse stirrup. Like, it was like, like that's what they had left over in the back. Multi layer steel. It was like multi layer leather with holes. Really? Like what, the MLL gasket? Yeah. I love structural leather. That's my favorite. Honestly, it's the way that you're like, yeah, it's the most rich way to get rid of nvh. Poor people have like rubber mounts. Rich people use a leather to sacrifice its life for my comfort. Yeah. Yeah. I. I made a. I made a motor mountain and then I had dinner. Every piece of the animal gets used. Twelve cows in the interior, one cow in the engine. I drove. I drove a piece of one on the. I reviewed the Pagani Utopia, which is a car that they are selling this year that has exterior leather elements. The. The. The clamshells, front and rear are not down with leather straps. Oh, that's cool. Can you pull up what this looks like? You get a series of leather straps because it's considered a wear item. And let's see. Can you. Where's a photo when you can see it? It's. I mean, it's broadside. Look for a broadside. If we can see it, whatever. It holds down the front and rear clamshells. You can figure it out like that. There you go. Yeah, there they are. That's a really nice feature. You can see it. Well, it looks. It's just in front of the front wheel. That's a leather strap. And then just behind the driver's door is a leather strap. Yeah. Yeah. It's a nice color. Yeah. Cool car. Yeah. What the heck? Okay. Kind of. Wait, there's your. There's your Jewish racing gold Pagani right there. Now you could get that or you could get Vin's 360. So choose wise, which honestly, silhouette wise is not super far off. Baking out the fenders up front a little bit. Bumper off a little bit. Yeah, yeah. It's fine. It's going to get. It's going to get repainted. This seriously? Yeah. I'm going to paint it a new color. Oh no. Which I'm really nervous about for one reason. Cuz your color you have is awesome. No, no. Action Bronson follows me. Oh. And I think he only follows me cuz he likes gold cars. So I'm like, he's going to. He's going to unfollow. Imagine the day you launch it, he unfollows you. Right. What if you go, this is my new color. Bronson brown something. Yeah, yeah. I painted it because I love action. That's a definite unfollow. That's got a. Hard. Unfollows you. If he unfollows you, then you know it wasn't a real friendship. Yeah, it's not. I never even messaged him. But it could be. Maybe he'll like you for your character. Talk about bagel. He seems. Talk about someone I'd really like to spend a day with. Absolutely. He seems. That's absolutely. Yeah. If you could do. All right, you could do a day. Forget cars. A day in a city with somebody. I'm gonna give you a city and you tell me who you want to spend it with. Oh God, no. I'm so bad at this, I can't even remember Minneapolis. Trick question. The action bronze. I was gonna say he exists at the time. Yeah, well, because he knows all the food spots. So would you rather hang out Border Bourdain or Bronson? Bronson for sure. He likes old BMW wagons and has a th lines on the day though. Because if you're trying to take more of a food adventure. Yeah, obviously it's Bourdain. But if you're trying to have food and like everything else in life and talking commentary. Yeah. Big body best. Like right behind you. Just talking smack. I do love how that dude talks. He talks body. No body talks like every construction worker in New York. Right? That's exactly. The thing about New York is like every blue collar worker in New York is just a broadcaster that doesn't have an opportunity. That's so true. Fucking treasure trove. Yeah. In Boston too. Find a fucking bricklayer. The Lower east side is kind of a barrier eventually. But no, forget Boston. Philly. Philly's like Boston. But I actually want to hear you talk. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you garbage? Shout out to him. But the action thing. His his delivery, his cadence. Everything is so good. It's the best. There's a dedicated Instagram 420i. Oh, happy 420. There's a dedicated Instagram account to accidental action Bronsonisms. And they catch people that say like Guatemalan green in the drop top, whatever. And it's like, oh, that's a Bronsonism. I really wish I lived my life in more catchphrases, you know, that'd be great. That'd be great. That's the next level. Catchphrases. Scotto is just. And I don't know if he's coming. I think he was. He said he was going to try. It's just he always thinks, what time, what time does this end? He said end of. He said end of the day. Scotto pulls up. 6:20. You're parched. You're like, you're ready to go. Your throat is hoarse. He's like, dude, I'm sorry I'm late. No, 6:20. He's texting. I'll be there in five. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which means he'll be there in four days. Seven. He shows up. 7:15. The Ferrari ran out of gas. Oh no, I hope not. I hope not. It'll be at least 8:45 by the time you start with it. Cuz then he shows up and you yap off camera a little bit. Yeah, dude, what do you got in the bag? I got some goodies for you guys. I got a couple little things. Yeah, no, I just travel with the Ziploc bag. I mean, listen, I only have one of these. A new driver. There a product. Because we're idiots and we make products for ourselves. Oh cool. It's a. It's a Sharpie and a bunch of stickers for your windshield to tell you. Told you when you last serviced your. Exactly. Project cars. Yeah, it's so hard to keep track of stuff and you don't have. We don't. When you work on your own car, you don't have the sticker. So you're. No. Who are these? 43 Institute. Yeah, I'm working with Ken's family still on a couple things we got actually. Next Sunday, fun times. April 6th, we have the four three day celebration at the Peterson Museum if you guys want to show up. I'm gonna be in Charlotte, but I'm gonna come on the. The sixth, I think. Yeah. The Sunday six. What? Bring the 46 if I fix it tomorrow. Yeah, I knew that line was coming, so. Yes, so. Yes, I know. I was gone for a week, so that's that extended the saga but man just fittings suck. I. I fixed it using a pry bar and a hammer and that shouldn't happen a lot in my opinion but it does. It did. It worked. It worked. I feel like the E46 is at an age of car where that's acceptable now. That's a good point, you know. Yeah. Because they definitely didn't break when they were new. No. I want to hear about the yellow Evo if you don't mind. Yellow Evo pretty soon got it off Adam lz. So actually I was going to buy that car before Adam did. So our friend Andrea, who I know from Pennzoil brought this car in from Croatia which was kind of crazy. So it was left hand drive converted in Croatia, fully restored on the underside. So like they took everything off the bottom, they stripped it down to bare metal, they repainted the bottom, they repowder coated all the metal chassis components. They put all new bushings on it. Like incredible. The thing looks like OEM and it looks brand new. So I was going to buy his car off Andrea and I sort of of slept on it and I was kind of dragging my feet cuz I wanted to sell another car I had. I was like oh wait. And then Adam bought it. But Adam was trying to do something where he had another yellow Evo and he was trying to get like a giveaway car. So but it showed up too late so he had to give away his other yellow Evo. Oh, okay. And he didn't like that. It was. If you go down and post. I love that you almost clicked on the yellow E36 which is a great story. Look, I'm moving quick man. So. So he doesn't like that it's left hand drive. But it was a big selling point for me because I don't really want a right hand drive car in the United States. Yeah. So I picked this thing up, we flew down to Florida. Does it look factory left hand drive? Like could you tell if you were looking at it that it was converted or does it look legit? The only thing I think you'd be able to tell if you could read Japanese is the passenger side door still has the sticker that would be on the driver's side door. Oh that's. But other than that. That's not what I meant. That's bullshit. Just visual inspection. It looks completely everything like you know, even the like the gas popper and the trunk popper is now on the left side like so it feels super OEM because we Did a left hand drive swap on a Ute, a Holden Ute at Hoonigan. Oh my God. But we left hand drive swapped it. But like the hood pop was still on the right side. The gas door pop was still on the right side. There's a lot of little Mini and Minnie and like Aston Martin do that. They leave the hood popper on the right side. Yeah, they don't give like a good way. They do not give. They just go. It's charming that side. So the car is. The car is fun because I've had a lot of CT9A Evos, Evo9s. Ron has an Evo9 as well. And this car is like that but just a little bit smaller so it's a little lighter. Feels nimble. Like nothing. Steers like an Evo, you know, Driven plenty of them. Like steering so tight and sick. Some of the best steering I think I've ever experienced. Like, absolutely. Price, whatever. But I made a mistake and I bought this car because, I mean, just look at it. Yeah. Yeah. How do you not want such an impulsive idiot? Like, I just love things and I'm like, hell yeah, car sick, I'll buy it. So I bought it. But really I want a front engine, rear drive car. So this car doesn't really serve any purpose for me other than it being cool. Well, your justification at first was I need something with the turbo. All the stuff I have doesn't have turbos. I'm like, oh, okay, 3Rs. Yeah. A Ferrari 360. Oh, boohoo. You don't have a turbo car. When he had a turbo car, he would have killed for the he's got right now. Like a year ago or less. Like your S14. Yeah, right, that. Are you trying to say you're like already? That's what I'm saying. I'm not, I'm not over it. I just. I want like a front engine, rear drive car. So I'll probably sell this thing pretty soon. Front engine, rear. Let me, let me trade a Ferrari for an E46 that works some of the time. I think you want. Do you have a specific one in mind? Are you just looking for that architecture? I think you either want like a Viper, which could be interesting, or I don't want to say like, like a Supra or something like that. I know you did. I know, like six months you've already had a bunch of the stuff that I would guess that you would want. And I think I started realizing that, like people get really bummed when I Get rid of cars. Like, cuz I think they're used to like, oh, like I want to watch somebody who has a car and keeps it forever. Yeah. I just kind of want to experience all the cars I want to experience. Like not everything is. You don't owe some viewer anything. Like, other than like I tell them flat out, I'm like, this might be here forever, it might be here for a month. Honestly, that's part of the allure because you, you had this, you, you go through builds real really quick, but you do them to a quality level. So like this, you had it for maybe a max of two days and you already, you're like that wheel and tire setup, horrible. You didn't even post it. No. You're like, okay, so you got the, the advans on there and like you, you, you build quickly and you rotate quickly and that's super interesting. I, I, it's taken me all I'm trying to. I'm doing like three mods to my taken. It's taking me like two months. Lower. Lower. We wheels tent or wrap. This guy's built like four cars. Yeah. I realized that I have like this issue because I don't know why, like, I don't think I have like personal like clothing styling. Like I just dress like a formula white guy. But for some reason I'm very specific about my car. So like the wagon I drove here today, which craziest comment ever is they were like, wow, we've never seen four people get out of a car, like one car in recent days. Cuz me, Rob. Points. Amy. You guys always. Larry Chen's in there and he was saying, oh, you know, I don't know, maybe that's a LA thing. I'm like, no, that's an income level thing because a lot of the people here, you know, they're doing quite well. Yeah. At that level, you don't see four people getting out of one vehicle. Four, four up is, is true. You don't call. We also live and you're in two blocks from each other. So we're like, it's more that though think in this crowd. It's more like people aren't coming together to place, not carpool places because we live like zero inconvenient to go pick each other up. You don't know what traffic's doing and you had an ac. I actually because we have the shop together, I think it's hilarious that we oftentimes drive separately there to be there at the same time and leave at the same time. We're driving our V8 trucks. We're like, you're carbon foot footprint is awful. It's terrible. It's terrible. Yeah. Yeah. It's so dumb. But yeah, like, I like speedrun mods because I'm like, I feel like embarrassed to drive a car if it looks like a certain way. So I'm like, I have to do it. Like, I got that wagon and it had black Sparco wheels on it, stock height. And I was like, can't do this. Has to change right away. Well, and there's a solid argument that if you're gonna modify a car, you should do it as soon as possible to get maximum enjoyment out of it. Oh, see. Cause I was gonna say, say you have to spend money on car parts, right? So for me, I have to do it while I'm hyped. Like, you know, like, when you first get the car, you're like, I'll do anything. I'll like a new turbo. Like, I'll buy it right now. And then after you, like, have it for a little bit, you're like, I don't know. Do I really need to waste money? No, I mean, you got to keep the momentum going. With the. With the Taycan specifically. I. I had my vision immediately. The day I bought the car. I knew what the finished car was going to be. And because it's an electric car, I can only do some, like, little cosmetic bullshit, which is all that needs. There's not much I can do, and who cares? But from idea to like, your parts are ready to being installed is like months. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think YouTube and like, media definitely pushes it forward and I want to actually. It rewards it a lot. Yeah. I want to get away from doing any sort of car build because, like, I don't think it's great for like, a channel. Even though I did an episode which Tony. Tony Angelo. Text me about Tony. You know Tony, he builds like insane cars every week or something. Every week, an insane run. And he'll just be like, I'm putting a V12 in a. I'm putting two engines in an Imperial. Yeah, he's putting a V12 in a Fox Spot Aston Martin V12. Phenomenal. Yeah. And then is the. Is it in. Do we know? And like, I did an episode where I put suspension wheels and tires on my wagon. And you, like, do you have more views than did. Almost 300,000 views. And a million views on social Look. And a million on Social. Yeah. 1.6 million views on my Instagram. Tony text me and he's like, he's like, I can't believe that video did well. And I'm like, I just put coilovers and wheels on a wagon. Yeah. What do you credit that with? Like, is it your structure of video or. I think because I do a good job at like telling a story about it, but it's also a good, like it's pretty relatable. Yeah. Relatable, easy car that you're like, take a boring car, make it sounds relatable. Yeah. My friend Larry Kosila is like one of the best detailers in the world. And when I, I know, I watch Larry, I went back. Yeah. So now he makes videos. So I was a partner with him. We had a car wash business. I left to make videos. When I got successful, I taught him how to make videos. He then went make videos that get way more views than I get. And he's like, washington, a goddamn car. Yo. I do a lot. So I do a lot of car wash content on my Instagram. It's huge. And it crushes. It crushes. And it's so simple. And I like washing cars. But I love Larry. He's the best. Larry came out to the event I had in Connecticut a couple weeks ago. Oh, really? And I didn't meet him, unfortunately. What event did you have in Connecticut? I finished my Mark 2 GTI like a high school dream car and FCP Euro did like a, like a pop up event at a brewery. And yo. Oh, look at that dude. High school dream car. Yeah, that's fabulous. Everyone hates the wheels, but I want really. Can we get another angle? I don't hate them. Everyone hates them. Because that was. I bought it off the original owner. There we go. Well, they're hear me. I don't hate them. I don't hate them. I. It's. I don't think it's an optimized choice. It's not, but here's why. Yeah. The car's got a VR6 swap. These are te. The VR6 sits really low. And when I was a kid, all I wanted was slammed cars. But New York roads suck. And I was like, I'm not driving a slammed car anymore. So I went with like a 15x8. Like a meaty tire. Cuz it drives nice. It drives like a adult car. Sidewall is the way big meaty sidewalls like that 15x8 with a 20550. If I was doing it like the high school dream way, it would have a 16x9 with a 195 40. So it would just be a jump, like on the ground around. Yeah. It would suck to drive. Yeah. So. So every pothole is a panic moment. Actually, I think this looks pretty good. I. I don't. I don't hate the TE's. I like them. Yeah, they wouldn't be what I would choose, but I like them. I like them. They're actually WRC Subaru wheels. They were like. Yeah. Like, they look like 5 by 100am I like imagining things. But they're off like a. They're off a 25Rs and it's like built for like a rally car car. Sick. Yeah, but that's great. Is it back here yet? No, I'm gonna leave it in New York. Oh, cool. Yeah. Cuz I want to do. Dude, the scene over there. So fun. It is like. It's really cool. Connecticut. The. The Connecticut car scene is sick. So we had an event on a Wednesday night. Yeah. At 6pm in Bridgeport. Yeah. Like 500 people showed up. So if you don't know, Bridgeport is the wealthiest area. Also the east Coast. Like getting people to show up to an event for cars on the east coast, everybody shows up. They all show up. Because there aren't 20 events a weekend. Larry came out, he drove pretty far, like over an hour. A lot of my friends, people I met out there, like, drove over an hour. Whereas like in LA, if you're 20 minutes away, you're like, I know, traffic. And then tomorrow there's this other thing going on. HB days, we hated having events and SoCal just because of how saturated it was. It's so tough to get anybody to show up. Yeah. You're like, you would be trying to do a content, like a event calendar, and you're like, oh, we can't do this Sunday because it's like Sevens Day. There's a Honda me, and then Hot Wheels is doing your thing. It's like crazy. Yeah. But, yeah, so I love this gti. Okay, so are you. But are we hanging on to the Evo or. No, we don't even know yet. I'm gonna sell the Evo for sure. Or we'll do a car giveaway with it on driver's error, maybe. Or keeping the Ferrari. Ferrari staying. I don't think I'll ever sell it. All right, cool. I love that beater. Ferraris are fun. Yeah, it's. It's like that weird thing where I don't know what I could replace it with, you know, for the money. You couldn't replace it with something better. Yeah. And to be Honest, I was never a supercar guy. Never really cared about like Ferraris or anything. And like driving a Ferrari almost every day. So cool. If you wanted to swap it out to a 599 with a manual swap swap, that could be a lateral and slightly upward move. That could be rowdy as and that gives you front engine. 599 manuals are gorgeous. They're nasty motherfuckers. Dude, autos are dirty cheap. Yeah. Here's the problem. You need to look out for the brakes. If you need brakes, they're $45,000. Can you just steal brake swap them though? Yeah. Can you do like AP racing or something? I mean, you like, cook good, but, like, it's kind of janky. You're talking to me, dude, it's kind of janky. I'm just saying it's kind of janky. We don't need carbon ceramics to go through LA traffic. To be first at cars and coffee, I would be the guy who's like, can I cry? Oh, yeah. You could put new Corolla rotors on the rear. Like, I don't give a. Actually, I wonder if you could find like a wrecked CTSV that has carbon ceramics and like bolt those up or something. Yeah. Because now carbon ceramics are so much more for. I. Sure it's possible, but back in the day, that was the thing, was the brakes, particularly the rear brakes, of all things, were insanely expensive. But like, most things are crazy. Like, my friend had a E63AMG. Those came with carbon's friends. Oh, dude. Even. Even the steels on E63, he sold the car because he was like, he's like, I think it's going to need brakes soon. And the brakes are more expensive than the car. Yeah. E63. Somehow you could buy an E63 with like medium mileage on it. Yeah. For like $13,000. Dude, we just sold on. On bringing trailer an E63 that had steel brakes at 14,000 miles. Whoa. And the. I. There was a quote for pads and rotors that I got for that car, and it was $9,000. Steel. Steel pads and rotors, not ceramics. What? I don't know what the is going on over there. I feel like it's been before, but ultimate YouTube, like, if I was like a pain YouTuber and wanted to do the thing you did with like your Bentley. Did you say a pain pain youtuber. You know, like some people, like, they, they like where you buy a thing that's not. It's going to be horrible and then it like it's a real nightmare. And like people watch it. The Bentley worked out great actually. No, no, no. But I mean like, like aren't there like a bunch of dudes who do that? Like. Yeah, it's a thing. Yeah, but E60, M5. Oh yeah. V10 individual throttle bodies, like 8500rpm. Car that'll never be made again like that accessible. You could get an SMG one for like 12k. Well, there's a very good reason. Yeah, there's a very good reason. Those are the first cars I ever did 200 miles an hour in. When the M5 and M6 came out, everybody, everybody hit 200 for the first time. No, that car, that car would do 200 miles an hour so easily. We would all go to Ocean Parkway. Hit Ocean Parkway, everybody would go. We'd roll out like 25 of us and we would all be doing four people to a car in a whole bunch of E10. When those things came out, everybody had them. They all had the Eisenman headers. And the thing would like rattle you your brain out of your soul. They sound insane. Yeah, yeah. And I did, I did 200 on in the M5 and then I did an M6 convertible manual. I did 200 miles an hour. 200 in a convertible? Yeah. The top up. Yeah. We did two. Me and Ron did 200 in a RS5. No way. No. 6 MTM. RS5. It was in Germany autobahn and we have video of it somewhere. So it must have been a 4.2, like supercharged. And it was, it was fully built up. Everything. Yeah. And that was shocking. Yeah. Like the car, the car was solid, but every. The world starts acting different around you. Like the way trees behave and other traffic. It's like, whoa. It's a scary. The speed at which your brain starts registering things. It's like it's triple anything else. Cuz you start worrying about like what's that car doing? What's the car doing a mile from now? Now a mile from now is very important perspective. And I don't want to say this and like encourage people to try to go so fast on the roads. But like you think about F1 and like the speed deltas they do, they'll be 200 to like 60 on a corner. Yeah, I remember we were on the, we were on the, we were on the autobahn and we hit 300km and I was like, oh shit. And then like a car, you see like a car straight, like ahead, like pull out. So you got to start Slowing down and slowing down from that speed. Like, distance closes so fast. I remember it feels like you're braking forever and then you look down and you're still doing 140. You're like, oh, this is so scary. Well, that's why Porsche with their brake. You know, Porsche tests their brakes from top speed. It's like a whole. It's a whole big thing they do where it's got to go, stop from temp, top speed from, you know, Vmax to 100k six times or something. It's like part of their durability. It's crazy. Yeah. Yeah, man. The V10, M5 going 200. Those cars were so fast, but they're so fast. Sounds incredible. Yeah, they are. Oh, my God, it sounds awesome. They require attention. Yeah. But at a certain point, it's kind of worth it because, like, where else can you get a V10 sedan? Nowhere. You can get an S6. Yeah. Or S8 with a Gallardo engine. What? Yeah, 2005. But we're not. Brian Scott. No, we're not going to talk about that. Driving dynamics are terrible. Gallardo V10. Whoa. Really? That's what you want? Yeah. You want that? Yeah. That motor is great. It is. If you're not boosting that motor, it'll last a thousand years. Probably has, like, the most slushiest of automatics. It has a regular automatic speed automatic. The balance is going to be a little bit weird. The M5 will be more fast. God, when was the last time I've even seen one on the road? That se has an S8, but he has the first gen, which. Those are lovely. And he bought a V10 for it. But he never put it in, though. What a boss. Grill him on that if he ever shows up. Yeah, he bought. He bought the V10. And the best thing is he bought it and he was like, I think it fits right in. And we like, look at the engine bay of the V8. And like, the last. The last. I'm like, where does it fit? The last cylinder here is like the crash beam. Like that crash beam is like the cylinder. Relationship with a guy in Norway. Norway that makes a swap kit. And he's like, no, but uwe did it. Yeah. Four months ago. And I could do it now. Like, swears weekend project. He hasn't seen daylight in four months. But he's all right. He's on crazy finish Vodka. You can get. Wow. No, no, there's just. I'm looking up cars for VIN 20,000 for auto tempest. You know, Audi did A really good job at making 14. That car has a gardo engine. $700. Wait, that can't.07s 6.5.2. That car could not look less boring, Right? It's very boring shape. Look at that thing. It would cost you more than 7,800 to get a V10 crate motor. Oh, easy. It'll cost you this much to do, like, the carbon deposit. That has a Gallardo motor in it. Yeah. Can you send me that for 7008 hundo? Dude, that's kind of crazy, but let's just take a guess real quick. What does that car smell like? I mean, it is no bueno in there. I mean, over. Under. On black ice being in there, you know? Oh, my God. Yo, that's. Wait, hold on. Zoom in. Wait, wait, wait. No, you can see. I'm like, what are we looking at? Air freshener or black ice? Oh, did you. I can almost guarantee on the front. On the windshield. The windshield. Windshield. Pick that. It's there. There's a lot of them. So nasty in there. I told you. Oh, my God. There's like seven of them. Luxury sedan under $10,000 will have black ice. 100%. Yes. Because that car is the car that you pack three of your friends in and smoke cigs in with the windows crack. That's a lot of air fresheners. One of my car you garbage questions is, have you ever stacked multiple car air fresheners? This guy has. When I went to pebble beach last year, the new Lincolns were beyond display. And the new Lincolns are just like the old Lincolns, but they have a giant curved screen across the dash. Great. And they have this new, you know, like 10 years ago, Mercedes put the spa air in the shit. It's an air freshener built in. It's like a fucking. It's like what you did in, like, your. Your H Vac. And so the Lincoln, like, would you like to. Would you like to try the new Lincoln Center? And I'm looking, and they're like. I'm like, what are the scents about? And they're like, well, there's a sandalwood and a this and this. And I say, ma'am, which one would cover up blunts the best? And she goes, oh, I couldn't possibly say. This one. This one would. Sorry. This one, it's called. This one's called the McConaughey. It's definitely this one, sir. Which one was it? Was it Black Eyes? It was. No, they can't call it that. Ain't nobody buying no Lincolns, my friend. It's. It is. Oh, man. 4:45. We got one hour and 15 minutes of show. Congrats on. You're looking. You're looking. I feel good. What I need to do is pee. So, Zach, we're gonna do. We need to do the three questions. Sure. First each of them. But we're going to hold on that until I get back from peeing. Sounds good. You guys continue the vibe. This is like the seat swap on an endurance race, right? Exactly. You're jumping in, someone else jumps in. Like you pissed in the seat. Like, I couldn't hold it, man. Listen, that's part of the game, friend. One of Harris's amazing stories is he was doing endurance racing and his. The driver before him vomited into the drink tube. No. And he didn't know. And so he like, he knew they puked, but he didn't know that he barfed. And I'm stealing his story. But like, he. He swept the puke off the seat and he's like, whatever. But then, yeah, mid drive, he, you know, did a shot of water and tasted someone and then he threw up in the. I would too. Yeah, your body. There's no way your body's gonna go. I gotta say, I. I have a small bladder. Always have to pee. And when you go racing, like, you have to stay hydrated. Yeah. Hot as hell. Yeah. Like, you're like. It's pretty demanding and. And the hardest part, I think, think was you get in your car and then you go sit on like pre grid and before you start racing, you got like 40 minutes. Yeah. Yeah. There's a long time for TV to be ready for everybody, for all the cars to line you like the previous smash a drink and like some. Some like electrolytes and stuff before you get in the car. And then like, you just got great. And you're like, I have to piece. When you get the nervous piece sometimes and you're like, you're strapped in. You can't get out of your car. You're like, oh, my God. I got like an hour left strapped in with bell else. You got comms, you got all this stuff. See ya. See ya. Yeah, it's. It's like kind of intense. And that was like. Because we got thrown right into racing, so, like full pro, you know. You guys did a full season together, right? No, just. We shared a car. We shared a car, right? Yeah. We did one race together, though. Yeah. Which was cool because I got super cool. Yeah. I was supposed to race at Barber Motorsports Park. And then our team leader, team owner guy, his car set on fire and he was in a championship chase. So I was like, dude, take my car, you gotta win this thing. And so I skipped Barber. Wow, there it is. Skip Barber. Skip Barber. And then we both did Indianapolis together. Yeah. Did you do a driver change? Like after an hour, separate cars. Oh, sick. You guys have to race. You got to race each other. Yeah, yeah. Was that wrong? You guys draft with each other, like pull each other through, like working like a team, like nascar. Do you fight? No, we, but we did. He got second, I got third race, which was cool. What racing are we talking about here? Sro. Oh, touring cars. Like real racing. Oh, I was talking about how much I had to pee and I was nervous. Incredible. Yeah. Cuz we were talking about pre grid. Like it's hot as you're like drinking all this water, electrolytes, everything. And then you're on pre grid for half an hour, 40 minutes, waiting for TV, waiting for races and you gotta pee. But then you gotta go battle door to door with all these other guys. Racing, racing is so fun. But doing professional racing, like took the blinders off and you realize that it's not for people like us, it's for like wealthy people. There was one eye opener. Experience was there was a guy on the Porsche GT3 team and pulls into the pits, doesn't realize that he left the car in fourth gear, goes up on air jacks, right? They swap the tires, everything puts it back down, smokes the clutch, immediate $90,000 mistake because they had to fly another one in from somewhere else. The part, the labor, the everything, just whatever. But we had a really situation. So we raced with Hyundai and Hyundai had like a kind of handshake deal with us where they were like, we will cover any damages to your car as long as it's not negligence. Yeah, yeah. And we were like, okay, cool. And like we're pretty responsible. Like we're good drivers. We're very aware we're going to be good. Like no problem. So that was cool. But there was a kid on our team who. My first race was at Road America. Super fast, super scary and it was wet. But you were still on slicks. Yeah. So you weren't on range. No answers. Right. I was so scared, I wanted to like cry the whole time. So doing the kink snow delay there once. Oh. So this kid, this kid on my team during practice, goes a little too hard in the kink, goes off, scrubs the side of the car up against the wall $111,000 in damage and that they have to fix. So it's like new hubs, new wheels, new tires, suspension parts, whatever. Right. And they do it. Not negligence. Not. No, no. This is, this is separate. But he was a full customer driver. Yeah. So customer program. He's got to pay for it. The dude, Alex Phelps out there in the rain, wrenching on the car, absolute hero. Thunderstorm pouring. He's just sitting in a puddle. He's like, I'm already wet. He's just fixing the car. Next day, first race, an M4M2M2M2 car spins out in front of him. And he t bones in total. Right. Like, you guys were like five laps in. Yeah, yeah. We did 15 minutes of. Of yellow flag totals. A car that Guy's weekend was $100,000 in damage. And his dad on a Hyundai and Jeff Rica, the. The team owner, he's like, look, I'm. I helped him out like, cuz I'll. I'll reuse a lot of the parts and stuff, but they have to cover the damages to the car. It was like $100,000 weekend. And the dude from someone else's side, the dude's upset and his dad's just like, that's racing. And I'm like, imagine having $100,000 weekend just be like, yeah, well, you know, so that paired with like the clutch thing of the GT3 are like, like, I can't ever go professional racing. Like, yeah. One dude at road America blew out a tire on his GT3 car. It ripped up the fender liner. Yep. And all the sensors, 60K. You're like, imagine having a blowout. Like, you're just like, dude, I got a free seat. Yeah. And you go, you get a blowout, you have to spend 60 grand. I'd be like, but the caliber of person is so different because I was at vir and getting ready to race. There was a whole setup. Like, everybody's in the paddock. And on race day, the trailer behind us just starts getting broken down. Everybody starts leaving, like cars getting loaded up, going in the trailer. We're like, dude, what's going on? We're about to race. One of the teams is full of packing up. Oh, that guy. Oh, he's the owner of. Of crowdstrike. You know, they're having that kind of huge problem right now. That was that weekend all the airlines. I probably shouldn't be racing. Yeah, yeah. I can't be. Yeah, yeah. I was like, oh, okay. That's who I'm sharing space with. Yeah. That Makes sense. So crowdstrike. They sponsor a lot of the F1 teams. And like speaking of bad moments, did you guys. I don't know if you guys watch it, but the first race of the season, this guy was named doohan. He's like 17 and a half. His first race ever. I think he crashes on the formation lap in the rain. Yes. And he just stood by the side and cried, which I like. I would do the same thing. Talk about a very expensive day with zero laps cover. Just the absolute worst. Yeah, rain is rain. Driving in the rain is hard. I know some people love it but hate it. I had to race in mid Ohio in the rain once. Was the scariest experience of my life. The place is a ice track. What car? Yeah, this was in a Miata. It wasn't even like. It's still scary though because it's so scary. It's so unpredictable. I don't know. Yeah, I hate it. Are you guys doing any racing this year at all? Like even like Champ Car or something? Part of me is going to be like, well, we're focusing on our brand. But no, it's, it's so hard. And what's the brand called? Ron. No, that is driver's era. But yeah, it's so hard to. We were really fortunate with Hyundai because they were like willing to hook us up. But it's like. Yeah, I mean it's hard to get into. It's a full time job just to get the seat. Yeah. You know, let alone, you know, learn the tracks and be fast and everything. So no racing for us this year. Once the racing actually went down, once you're in the car and you're fucking racing. Did you find that? Because actually all three of us are pretty fairly close. I'm going to give. I'm going to give Matt. I'm going to give Matt. Matt a big ups here. I beat. Beat all of us in autocross. Listen, all right, that was conditional. Yeah. Conditional on him being better than conditional. There was more, more weight over the action. Ionic5n. I did beat everybody smoked us the. It was ionic5n launch, but we were autocrossing a launcher. Yeah. Yeah. I may have. I may have won. You were fast. But. No, but that's not the point. That's not. I was guessing it was. That's not the point. It's not the point. The point was like, because I'm. Because like, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm. We're all like, we're all pretty good. We've had a Lot of practice. But we're not like pro racing drivers, so. So you're now in a pro racing car. We're about the same. We were. I did win. We were close. It was tense. We were attack pounders is what we call those. Okay, fine. So when you. So now you're in the race, what's happening in the race car? Are you. Are you. Do you feel like you deserve to be there once the race? You have to. Because otherwise, if you're not fully committed, like, the car doesn't work right. Like, you're not. You will crash if you're not driving confidently, if you're timid on corner entry, someone's going to plow into the back of you. Like, you have to commit to corners at full throttle. Otherwise, I think we both did really well. So Ron is. It's funny because we did the race together. Ron's like half a second a lap faster than me. But we both did well. We both podiumed at one race and we both. In our first race, we got. We both won the same award. Hard charger. Hard charger, that's right. So it's like. That's great. Most aggressive. Yeah. Most passes. No, most positions, which is cool. So we both won awards, like, but we're like solid mid pack. Like, third, fourth, fifth based on. And he's just like, you just started doing this, you actually were able to financially sustain a season. It was Jeff Crush people. But it was funny because a little higher. Jeff Ricca and who was the other guy? Ruben Minnie. Oh, Christian Pericarpi. They were clearly in a different race than us. Like, Jeff. Jeff and Pericarpi, they were like a second and a half faster every lap. So they were in their own race. Like. And that's the crazy thing, too. Even if they were three tenths faster per one lap in 45 minutes. Yeah. That's a lifetime. Yeah, That's a lifetime. Yeah. Ron was half a second faster than me at Indy. And we started and every lap was just like half second. Yeah. And by the end of it, he was like the straightaway ahead, and I was like, I couldn't do anything because our lap times are like, literally always like a half GC and everything. It's so gnarly. Yeah. You need so much seat time, so much confidence. Confidence in the car. Yeah. But it does seem like a lot. The scariest part about racing is lap one of your first. Oh, yeah. Lap one, turn one. You have no idea what to expect. And you're going into this turn with like 30 cars around you, and you're just like, you gotta pee? I don't know. Once you're like, just don't crash. And even if you're like, endurance race. Yeah. Like, just don't crash. Like, there's four cars around you. One of them is a. And thinks this is the last lap. On the first lap. Not only that, but, like, when you're not that experienced, going from 100% commitment to like 90 or even 85, that's actually way harder than always going flat out. Right. The really, really good guys can always drive at 95 and then bring it up to 100. I'm always impressed by that. Like, they can manage tires. 85, but never at 100. Yeah. Oh, okay. I don't have the last five. And that's why I'll never be great. Yeah. But I'm. I'm 95 all the time consistent. And that's why I'm a great teammate on an endurance team. I'll bring the car home and I'll put 50 in a row that are within a couple tenths of each. Dude, that's, like, really impressive. I feel the same. Like, I could do a team endurance and be a good teammate, but I'm not the. I'm not the winner. Well, maybe we should have a race car. And then I remember, like, I. I don't. Like, I think we should have a race car. Let's do it. Who has a race car already sitting? My friend Pat. One of you has an extra car between the people we know, I feel like we could find some. There's a NASCAR in the garage. Pat has a. My friend 46e36m3 with s54 that's set up for endurance. I think. I think that's amazing. That's. That's a good idea. That's a good idea. Let's go. Quarters. I'm not competitive enough. Enough for racing because I. I don't know if, like, there's something in me that doesn't like to win. No, you choose life. When you choose what a natural loser. Comes down to it, like, all the teachers, you have something to live for. No, it's not that. When I have someone behind me, I'm like. I'm almost like, man, if they're this close, I should just let them by. I totally feel that. It's like, ah, they're already on my bumper. Yeah. Like, they might pass me. Yeah. So that does work in endurance racing. In endurance racing, that's, like, fine. It's actually. It's actually better to just let them go than to waste your time. No, but I. I made a lot of passes and then holding people off, like, I. I'm bad at the pressure of having people behind me. You're like, I feel bad. Am I in your way? I wrote America. I remember. Yeah, my bad. I passed this dude and I was like, I think I passed him into fourth place. And I was like, hell yeah. Three corners going into the front straight, four off in the grass. But then I ended up passing him again. But I was like, so disappointed in myself. I remember being on the radio, I was on the comps, I was like, how many laughs do I have left? Like after I passed him again, I was like, how many laughs? He's like 18 minutes. I was like, oh, my God, I have to keep this together for 18. And then, cuz then, you know, you're faster than him, but when he's behind you, the psychology you up and it feels bad. Yeah, that's crazy. Vin, I'm gonna kick you out. I want you to send in Larry Chen, please. Okay. I want five minutes with Ron. There we go. Huh? No, no, send him in now. But then, but, but, but we need, but we need. But you get kicked out first is what I'm saying. We love you. Thank you for coming. Thank you for coming. You guys are the best. We really appreciate it. Thank you for having us. It's awesome to be here. We'll be done with this. An hour and three minutes. Keep drinking. What's happening in RO world? We got. We got. We got sucked down into Vinnie world. Yeah. You know, it's always like a background thing for me. And even at Hoonigan, like, I had the opportunity to be on camera a lot. And honestly, the perks that come with building cars and doing all the things was nice, but I always really enjoy building marketing campaigns, building other people's stories, building brands. So that's kind of what I kept doing. You know, after leaving Hoonigan, we started working with Leah Block, the, you know, Ken's family, everything. So it's a lot of that, a lot of helping people build their stories, build their brands, and then driver's era too. You know, it's like starting from ground zero again on a clothing brand. It's like, well, you know, what blanks are we using? Where are we? Who's our designer? Where are we making this stuff? So it's a lot of like building that back up now in the background. Yeah, yeah. Do you like the clothing business? I do. It's a hard business. You Gotta be into it. Yeah, yeah, I like it. I like it now because it's never been easier to get into it. It's so unbelievably easy to get on Shopify, start a site, get a design, get fulfillment, everything. But because of that, you have to be so much more creative. So now it's about story. Now it's about how cool of a brand you have versus back in the day, your brand didn't even have to be that amazing. If you had great distribution, if you knew the right people, you could have a brand. Yeah. So it is a really interesting time for that right now. Yeah. Cool. I want to circle back, but I know Larry Chen has to go and he wanted to come back in. What's up, Larry? I just want to mention how many endless hours we've spent together in the trenches, Ron and I. Yeah, track side suffering, really. Just getting pelted by cam locks. Machine gun rally. Yeah, it was insane. I mean, I got to shoot photography alongside the illustrious Larry Chow for so long when I first started in my career. And one of you is publishing a photography book. Oh, come on. I tried to publish a book a while ago monetarily. Didn't make sense. Congrats on that, by the way. Thank you. Thank you. Amazing. But yeah, we've spent so much time together and, you know, we always are. Like, people ask me who inspire me as photographers. It's honestly my peers, you know, it's. It's like Ron has this really famous photo of Ken from a helicopter in Raleigh, New Zealand. Raleigh, New Zealand. Yeah. And he's just spitting flames and it's just like a perfect top down shot. I remember that photo. It's a great photo. And I commented on Ron's picture when he posted it. I was like, you won the year. Like, you won 2015 or what? Whatever year it was, comment made my life. I was like, Larry Chen. I could just picture Ken and Scotto and you guys and Matt all together and one and like, oh, did you see what Larry said? You won 2015. Like, you won. We weren't really looking at Instagram comments at the time. Inside, I was fangirling super hard, but we had known each other for so long before that. But yeah, the Pierce thing is really interesting because I love that, like, that's what drives you. We push each other. I didn't realize you shot photos like that, Ron. I was think trying to be a dick earlier, but actually, I'll tell you right now, yeah, that's it, that's it, that's it. How could you compete against that? That one. The year. God, is that fabulous. How cool is that? It's not even the great. Such a great show. You like. Look how small. You know what it is? It's actually the green in the treetops. I think more than anything else that does Jurassic Park. He's got a vibe. He's just pushing so hard. Was I right about the 2017? 2017. Now, the funny thing about that is I almost. Oh, no, no, no. Sorry. This. Ken posted this. Sorry. This was Google 2015. The rally was 2015. Yeah. Yeah. I almost lost my life. 10 minutes. Did you shoot? I mean. I mean, is that with a drone or what? No, I was in a Robinson R44 out of there. You shot that out of a helicopter? That was that pilot's first time chasing rally in a helicopter. That's why I almost died. I love doing things when it's a pilot's first time doing something that's like, mad every time. So confident. So we get in and he's like, all right, mate. You know, I've been doing this for a while, but, you know, if you see a power line and I may not be looking, say something. And I'm like, God, sorry. All right. What? So he's, like, getting super into it. I'm like, all right, yeah, he's going this way. He's going left. And he's, like chasing the thing. He's, like, having fun as a pilot. Chasing, yanking and banking, yanking and banking. And then I'm like, I look up and I see a power line, and he's not looking. He's having a good old time chasing rally cars. He's in the mist. He's in the mist. And I'm like, hey, there's a power line. He's like, oh, yep, right, mate. And then he pulls up and we g out. I'm like, oh, my God. Yeah. Oh, my God. Life changing, changing experience. That's happened to me twice in Baja. Crazy. And that's why I quit after. Oh, I think you told us last time on the show. Yeah, Yeah. I can't do it anymore. He videographer. Yeah. Phenomenal, dude. He told me once. He's like, one of the number one ways for media guys to. To die is in helicopters. Yeah, of course. Super sketchy. Yeah. Yeah. Geez. That's why drones are so popular. What's the way. What's the next way? I mean, death by snacks, because you're just. Cardiac. Cardiac arrest. Cardiac arrest. 70 Taos down. You know, in third, standing next to Rally Car. Yes. Yeah, yeah, right. The. Really. The thing that. That just to bring that up again about pushing each other. I've never pushed so hard in my life versus, like, shooting other things. Great. You know, we push hard all the time, but shoot, shooting with Ken, I've never, ever pushed myself physically and mentally so hard. Because I know. I know I'm shooting with people that produce. You know, we're doing this thing that's so important. You know, my job oftentimes when I was on the set of Gymkhana, was to get that thumbnail shot. Yeah. And think about it. That's the first thing that somebody poster. That's the thing that gets people to click on this thing. And so we had meetings about it. I had meetings with Scott about it, and he's like, okay, well, here's the moments that you may get your thumbnail shot. I'm like, okay, all right. I take it to heart, you know, because that's the whole reason why I'm there. I could just be. I could be somewhere else the entire time. If I just show up for that one thing, then it made it worth it, you know? Yeah, absolutely. But with that said, I still try and try thousands of attempts to get that one shot that is iconic, that will get people to click on this video. And the difference being, I always would tell people that were new to shooting Jim Con. I was like this. Think about this as more of a skate video than a car video, because he's going for this crazy thing. And like, in a skate video, sometimes you only have one chance to get a shot, because if they land that trick, that's done. No more attempts. That's the best he's going to get at that. So sometimes we would show up to a location, Pikes Peak. The first pass, not impressive at all. The second one, cars hanging off the edge of the mountain. That's it. That's the take. If you guys didn't get it, tough for you because we're moving on. Like, you don't get. I like the BTS you guys did on that stuff, too, where you either Scott or someone would be talking or maybe even Ken himself, and they'd be like, I think I can do that. Deeper, better, more sideways. You can just make it look cool. And that's judging that moment. Right. Like, how sketchy is it versus, do we have the shot? Should we push more? When we first started making videos in 2006, the. The year that YouTube launched. Yes. We started making videos three months after YouTube launched. Me and Tom Morningstar and And we were. We had our driving club that we would go down Ocean Parkway, 5 o'clock in the morning, be ripping it. Like, you know, just the. That's pretty normal now. Yeah. But in 05 that 06, that was like kind of. Kind of a novel thing. And Tom Morningstar was a skate videographer. Like, that's what he would do. And our early videos, which are still on the Internet and they're like 240p and they're. We should pull one up YouTube.com which is kind of New York Motor Club just written out. They look like skate videos and they're so old that they predate dmc. Oh. And so we have like Pearl Jam and Stone Temple Pilots on the. And they can't be taken down. Yeah, they predate the law. Oh, here's our old. Here's my first YouTube channel. Wow. 276. Go to click on more about this channel. What year Was it created? 18 years ago. 22 videos. 22 videos. It was created. Join. December 8, 2006. That was my first YouTube video ahead of the game. Because that was. Even predates the blog era. Yeah. Really? Yeah. Big way. Yeah. It was like six. Six months or less after game. Yeah. So if you pull up. Oh, man, there's. I don't know. I guess we could play these. I don't know. What's anyone gonna do? They all have 100 views. Statute of limitations is out on that one. Yeah, I guess just. I don't know. New York Motor Club. I mean, Toys for tots. Charity run. 600 views. With the gold Ferrari at the bottom is Evan. That's probably his car, man. Shit, dude. Ferrari chat run. Dude. This was all just. That's so cool. This was all the original one. Okay. The very first video we made is the fall foliage run video. I'm looking at that shot. We hired an actual helicopter to shoot that. No way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We spent a. This was very bad. This was very stupid. No one should ever do this. We had like a drive, like group drive. And we watch this video. We literally. This was a pitch for a reality show that me and Larry Casilla were going to do. This was the sizzle reel. And we hired an actual helicopter to shoot this. The footage is quite beautiful. That Lamborghini Diablo had a wet fog or nitrous system on it. That's so of the era, by the way, that mod. Nobody would do that. Now, did you just past the spray? Yeah. Go back to the sprays above the wing. Yeah, he spray. Watch the squirt. Oh, the purge. Watch the purge. Ready? Oh, yeah, that's. So this footage looks great for 2006. Honestly, this was. Yeah, 2006, but at the same time, just feels so nostalgic. These aerials, that's the Bear Mountain Bridge with an actual helicopter. I cannot believe we spent all the money on this. This is. Honestly, I'm. I'm impressed. Yeah, not bad for 5,500 views. I feel like I should be seeing a Tecademics logo. Oh, my God. There's the same dude. There's the same 100. That's Larry in the 4 GT mobbing. Yeah, that was our first ever video. What's the date that, Zach? 18 years ago. So, yeah, I mean, it's just. Yeah, December. I think if you more, it'll show you the actual date. December 06. December 9th. Yeah, there we go. 9 comments. Let's read the comments. Just out of curiosity. Hello, helicopter? Most. Seven days ago. Seven days ago, someone commented on this here. From Road to Success three weeks ago. That is super cool. Oh, I guess I did somebody's podcast. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Larry looks like old Boomhauer. Boomhower. Yeah. Wow. There we go. Wow. So you've been doing the thing for quite some time. So long, bro. That's amazing. So long. What is the resolution of this video, Zach, before you close it out? Is it 280, 240p? Yep. Automatic potato cam we get. Dude, it was like a. It was on a shoulder. Dude, it was on tape that. Do you know what it. So the chopper was one thing. Yeah. And then they scale scammed us. The people doing the chopper footage scammed us because they gave us a bill and they go, here's how much it's going to be to do the chopper and get the footage. And then they finish and they go, oh, well, this is in Cinema Vertex 5 format. You're going to need to transcode that. That's going to be 15,000. $15,000. And they scammed us out of 15 grand. To transcode the footage that they never mentioned would be completely unusual because that's holding the footage hostage. You know, that kind of goes back to the thing. It's also never been easier to make media now. Yeah. So you have like, man, when we started doing videos for Ken again, going back to the blog era, I started working for Ken in 2010 and we were like, hey, we should. We should put a little bit of focus onto the Facebook page. And he's like, as long as it doesn't get in the way of the blog I remember that line forever. And then Facebook became king and we were doing video content on there and then Instagram and then YouTube and all that. But that whole video that I just showed you with that involved a helicopter and transcoding and all this other shit. Dude. One well equipped and talented dude with a drone and some GoPro and a phone could make that video today easily 18 years. Right. And that's the cool thing about where media is at. I actually wrote a question for Larry Chen. I wrote in terms of things to talk about. I wrote a question that's just for Larry Chen. I'm gonna read it. Even though I probably shouldn't need to read it. But I just wanted to. I'm curious now. This is. I can't wait. I'm excited. Number 26, 21 year old kid approaches you at a car meet and says, I want to be you. Do you tell them? It's so funny. I. There's this video that keeps coming up. I did a race recently and I was in my race suit, I was about to do my stint and this kid comes up to me and he just like sticks a phone in my face and it just starts asking me questions. Not rudely or anything, you know, it was just like a thing. And I was like, okay. I just took it. Just like how I always take the one on one interaction. So important to me. Right. This may be the only time who knows that this person gets to see me in their lifetime. Right. So I always think, and I learned a lot that from Ken because he doesn't blow off a bunch of fans or whatever. He's always there trying to spend as much time as he can with the fans. And I just think to myself, like, I gotta make this count every time. And I answered the questions and a lot of the questions were basically something that. Yeah, I get it all the time as well. Yeah, I answered them as best as I could. And then like a month later he publishes it and I keep getting tagged in it every single day. Yeah, you've seen it in my race suit. I'm like amped to get in the car, you know, you're on a completely different mindset. Yeah, I wasn't even there. I wasn't trying to survive. Yeah, I haven't had a camera in my hand in 24 hours or whatever, you know. Yeah, that's so long. I know, exactly. So with that said, really, it just comes down to. I know you guys will all agree on my answer for this. It comes down to shoot what you love, do what you Love, if you think about the money, if you worry about the money, it's not right for you. It's just not. Yeah, it's not right. Yeah. Of course you have to be able to make a living. That's fine. But don't think about that up front. Yeah, you just can't if you don't love this thing. People always comment and always talk about, like, how is it that Larry gets surprised at these builds or what he's uncovering, or like, how is it that he's like, oh, this is the greatest thing ever all the time? Well, because it is. Yeah, it's. It really is. Like, I really do genuinely get surprised at how ingenious these people are to be able to do what they love, what they care about, the hoops they jump through. And it doesn't always have to be like as big budget as a gymkhana or a high dollar supercar build or whatever. It could be the backyard builder. It could be. Sometimes that's more relatable and it's way more. More interesting sometimes. Yeah. So it really just comes down to that. And it takes dedication and time. Just as, you know, we're on the 1000th episode, you know, I've been shooting for 20 years and you've been doing this for over 20 years also. And it just takes dedication. It's not the overnight success story. Although maybe for those individuals, a lot of times they ask, what is overnight success, success story, or how is it that we can get into it quicker? Yeah, maybe there are those times. I mean, you can with like luck. Absolutely. Luck always comes into play. Perseverance usually leads to luck. Right. You do enough of something, sooner or later you're going to be in a position where something's going to happen that's lucky. And if you notice it and make a move, then you're in the game. But that's luck. But it's an odds game, right? You just keep going and eventually something happens. I feel like success a lot of times is like a T88 Turbo on a Mark 4 Supra. When you're starting out low in the rev band, you're mad. You're all the way to the floor and nothing's happening. You're like, God, I've been full throttle for so long. Gosh, I, I might as well just. I might as well just get out of it right now. I've been trying so hard and nothing's happening. And then all of a sudden, fifth gear from idle, something happens. You hit 7500 RPM. Because that turbo is horrible. And then all the opportunities start coming and everything. And all these people start emailing you and calling you and all that stuff because you've been building boost for so long. You've been doing all that stuff that then you can capitalize. You said counter, steer and focus. That's my terrible streetcar.net analogy. It's pretty good. I like where you've gone with it. It's a. It's a boss move. It comes down to also, you really, truly have to be outstanding to stand out. Yeah. You have to be good and you have to practice your craft and you have to be proud of it. And one of the things that I like to talk about in terms of photography, maybe don't hold your stuff so close. Don't. Don't watermark your stuff stuff. Don't be like, oh, you can't share that, or you can't have that. Maybe be a little more open to sharing what you have to offer. Right. That's an interesting perspective. I think a lot of photographers now are very concerned about usage rights, AI, etc. Credit. You know, credit. You're saying that in your experience, maybe the opposite has been true? Yes, it's. It's been true since the beginning. Honestly, when I started posting stuff online, in forums, on my website, I always tried to share the biggest resolution that I could afford at the time. Well, maybe that's. I mean, to go back to what Ron said, maybe that is the giving it away is that spool of this turbo. And then eventually everybody, even though you haven't been making any money because you've been giving, giving it away, eventually your name recognition reaches a critical mass that all of a sudden you're a very valuable item. How would people know what your work looks like if they haven't seen your work? Sure. Well, actually, Joe Rogan, imperfect as he is, once said that the Internet not shareable is a dead Internet. If you paywall everything and it becomes not shareable, there really isn't a point. Which I think is probably true. Can I just point out a Joe Rogan moment? Just that happened to me recently. Him and Bill Murray, they were looking at my pictures on one of their shows of this Shelby super snake. Oh. And I was so blown away. I'm such a big Bill Murray fan. You know Bill Murray? Yeah. And, you know, aside from you mentioning my name on say his name three times, he appears at your birthday party or your thousand podcast, I don't know. But I was super stoked because, you know, it's just I heard rumors that he may have bought one, but, like, looking at that Bill Murray. No, no, no. Not Bill Murray. Seeing that. Him watching the content and seeing my pictures, it just makes me happy that, you know, real car individuals are consuming my content. Even if it's something. Even at this point in my career, it still makes me happy that I'm doing this thing that other car enthusiasts enjoy. Yeah, no, the last I was saying, like, when I found out that Seinfeld was watching our shit, it bugged me out, man. Couldn't handle it mentally. Weird. Like, the next thing you start going to do, you're like, oh, I need to. Jerry might watch. I need to tailor this for how Jerry. What if Jerry doesn't like Jerry? I don't know. So then just to close out your question. Yeah, yeah. Right now is the best time. If you truly are passionate and you want to do this. We need more creators. There's not enough. We're struggling. Really not enough. I'll be honest with you. Doesn't every young person just want to do this and nothing else for a living? How the are we? It used to be. What do you want to be, an astronaut? It might be maybe. Maybe, like, maybe creators that are not as concerned with the technical aspects of the craft like you are. But, like, come on, let me. Let me put it this way. There may be a lot of creators trying to do it, and they will try hard for a little bit, and then they'll burn out or they'll shoot their shot and it won't work, and then they'll quit. There's not enough people that are dedicated. Okay. It's very hard for me to write right now to find help from people that are dedicated, that actually will be willing to put in the sacrifice to prove themselves. It's. And it's making money. Doing art is so hard, bro. It is. It's so hard. An incredible journey. I don't know if you back me on this, but a lot of people that I talk to now, still, it's very hard to find young individuals, individuals that are willing to sacrifice. It's almost like a lot of times they want to just come in and they want to be at the top. Working at Hoonigan. I had to hire a lot of people at Hoonigan to keep the ship going, you know, especially as we're expanding and finding people that came in and were like, oh, wait, this isn't just a big party that I just go, yeah, like, I get to rip burnouts, too, and I get to do all this stuff. Yeah, that's how it is. They're like, wait, I have to go in and I have to be a part of a four and a half hour meeting where Scotto has the, like Charlie Day map on the whiteboard of how we're gonna turn everything around. Like, yeah, grind them. Joining and thinking that they're going to be on set taking lead on something on the set of Gymkhana. No, yeah, yeah, sure. This isn't a. This isn't a nobody wants to work anymore kind of situation. You just, you. I mean, I think that the difference. I think maybe between 20 years ago and now, I feel like the instant gratification of the Internet and the sort of influencer lifestyle, get rich quick sort of scheme y lifestyle. And there's always been elements of that, but the Internet sped it up. I agree. I think that people don't understand the timeline of successful people in the way. In a way that is accurate. Yeah. They see somebody successful, they think they go, you've gotten here quickly because I just heard of you. And not, you know, I get that. But. And photos real hard, dude. Being a photo assistant, I was there. That's a tough gig, man. You get all fucking angry, man. I fucking lug this heavy ass light bag up the mountain. Car battery showed up and squeezed the shutter. And his name's on the credit, dude. I hated that when I was 22. And if I had stuck with it, I might have been somebody. But I couldn't hang in that way at that time. It's hard. It's very hard. Most here at the shop, like, because now I have, like, real employees, like, you know, for so many years with me and Zach, but like, technically, but not really, but like here employees. Right. And I've had to come to terms with the fact that, like, my best employees will outgrow me, you know, like, I won't be able to hold a great employee forever. They're gonna. I just lost one. They're gonna outgrow me. But that's a sign of success for you. It's good. I'm not mad about it, you know, but it's a hard thing to let go of that person. And an employee that I'd be happy with forever may or may not be the best choice, you know, but you did a good job of building them to where if you did horrible and you kind of like root ball them and they only stayed doing that one. Yeah. That they. We're not breaking their spirit. That's right. Yeah. We have 36 minutes. Of radio left to do today. Are you going to. Are you going to stick around? Are you going to head out? Well, we need. I want to get a couple more people. Going to kick you out. No problem. Larry, you stay. I'm going to bring Sam Fain in. But I'm still here. I have to pee. He came back. Nice. I have to pee. Thank you, Larry. Larry and Zach will have the con for just a minute and I'm going to pee and come back. How are things with you? Hey, what's up? How you doing? I'm Zach. Nice to meet you. Yeah, nice to meet you, too. Are you racing this year at all? Yeah, I've been racing as much as I can and it's so much fun. It's crazy. I've been watching it from the outside for so long, you know, since I started shooting. And I always talk about the fact that I got into this from a love for driving. And I find myself falling in love with driving time and time again. Especially now, just looking at it from a different lens, different landscape. Racing is the, the, the entry is very difficult. Everything financially, knowledge, skill, all that. But, man, when you get there, it's like I'm just so hooked. There's nothing like it's so much fun and it's everything I've always pictured it could potentially be. You know, looking from the outside, I see how much fun these drivers are having, really. But that's not to say that I, I get like what they do and I get that that skill level is different. Right. Like, I look at someone like Pat Long. I even talked to Pat Long about driving for a living and he's like, it's, it's like getting, having a gun held to your head all the time. They were so hard. My. I'm friends with Pat Parker Kliggerman, you know, he's NASCAR driver. He race for Hendrick when he was early 20s and then the opportunities went away and then he brought, he got opportunities back after, like grinding, hosting television, staying in the circle, racing cheaper NASCAR series, you know, doing well enough to get attention and like just knowing him and watching this like roller coaster of opportunity and it goes away and then you can bring it back, but it's tenuous at times. Like they, and all of them are across every series are under so much pressure to deliver. I mean, that's their job, of course, but it's perfection all the time. And you know, you're only allowed so many either errors or even team technical issues that aren't your fault necessarily. Well, that's out of your control. Right. You know, just simple stuff, you know, punctures or someone plowing into you on the first corner and then suddenly you're three races of bad luck. And you say sponsor money and all of these things. The stress, I think must be unbearable. And as I, as a hobbyist, even I think I don't. It's so much money and commitment and effort. It's a lot. It's a ton. Yeah. Well, for me, I'm racing for one reason and it's for life fulfillment. You know, it's. It's something that I've always wanted to do and I feel right doing it and I enjoy the fact that I don't have the pressure to perform. Yeah. You know, and it's just so much fun. And I urge whoever wants to take that leap to do it. And that's one of the reasons why I'm trying my best to tell this story and tell this journey however hard or however fun it is. I'm just being very honest and very open about what I'm doing to hopefully bring more people along into this. Nice. Because it is just. There's just nothing else like it because it is battling. It's battling, battling. It's like fist fighting. But you're using these machines. You know, it's, it's so fun. In, in our nature, in our human nature, we, we want to do this thing. We want this challenge that is physical. Yeah. And that's skill based, you know, and that's why I think it's just so intriguing and so interesting and it works like your problem solving, your, the racecraft of planning passes or, or managing tires or any of these things. And I don't know how to do that stuff. I'm just a. Aware of it. When I've. The little racing I've done, you have to pay attention and then you got to pay attention behind you, in front of you. I mean it uses like every part of the car brain or the brain in general. And it's so much fun and you're getting adrenaline and it's competitive. Like it delivers so much more than just driving a car fast. It's awesome. Yeah. This is one of the things that I've been thinking about this more and more as I've been taking a lot of inspiration instruction from drivers that are so much better than me. And I, I'm assuming you probably can relate to this because I know you've been doing a lot at racing schools and stuff too. But, but four days and let me just put it this way. Okay. I recently did a radical school. Yeah. I saw at Spring Mountain. Right? Spring Mountain, yeah. And my instructor, Blake Olson, he's a formula drift driver. Great sports car driver, Great instructor. Absolutely incredible wheelman. Right. I'm sitting in the passenger seat watching him drive. He's watching me drive, looking at my data. And then I just realized, it just clicked. At this moment I've spent maybe 20, maybe 20,000 hours that. What's the whole thing? 10,000 hours to learn. Yeah. I probably spent 20 or more hours learning photography, right? Yeah, probably. This man spent 20,000 hours learning how to drive. Yeah. And if he had to pick up a camera the next day, how long do you think it would take for him to get to my level? And I think that I thought the same thing. Like, well, it's, it's good for me to appreciate his skill and absorb some of his knowledge because he's done what I've done for photography. Sure. Done that with driving and I. And that gives me a higher appreciation of what he has to offer me. Dude, the super pros, those guys, they've got, they've, they're, they're not operating on regular people level. That's a different thing. And then in turn, this is also giving me a fresh perspective. When I do watch racing, when I watch 24 Hours of Daytona, when I watch those guys doing stints, I think to myself, oh man, I was so gassed out doing two hours stint in a Mini Cooper. I was so gassed out I couldn't walk. And then these freaking guys. You do double stints? Yeah, two and a half GS, three GS, double triple stints. Sometimes I have nothing to complain about. I'm donezo after 90 minutes. That is. That a lot of that is lost. Yeah. When, when translated to tv, it doesn't translate at all. And think about people watch F1. Oh so and so sucks. Okay. I couldn't move my neck after pulling two and a half GS in a radical for a day. Dude, this. Meanwhile these guys driver in F1 is like housing all of us. Six of them, six and a half GS. These guys are pulling, wrecking us. I remember the thing with Ferrari where they took us all go karting and it was me and all the WEC drivers. And who's the Fassbender? Michael Fassbender. Like Fassbender was doing the whole Ferrari program. He was trying to do a whole thing with, with the, with challenge and with a. He did, he narrated some things. It was A whole bit. It was a whole bit. And the only of the group, it was all young drivers except giancarlo Fisichello as XF1. Oh yeah. Proper legit. So I was like, we're gonna get in the mix. There's go karter. Like, how good can they be, dude? Yeah, this was the answer is they were quite gone. Put Formula one drivers or World Endurance Championship drivers in a go kart. Yeah, well, because they grew up driving the most of them. And if you didn't. Because I drove like, like little go karts as a kid, but not like competitively. So I didn't know how they really work. I raced a six year old on a TV show. I was 2018. No, no, this was a six year old cart racer. So he'd been driving for a year and a half and gone not even a chance. I was like, how did he even do that? How is he going around? It doesn't make any sense. Power to weight, sure, but it's like they know how to move the cart, flex the frame, all that shit, that we don't know how to do it. There's apparently a 24 hour cart race in Brazil every year that is a huge deal. Team Sport. Lots of F1 and ex F1 drivers do it. And one of my clients does it and was like, I can get you in. I was like, I'm. What is anyone else on the team going to say when you show up with a 265 pound guy and go, he's in. He's a qualifying guy. They're going to go. John Alessi is over. Like, they're going to go. It's Senna. It's Mick Schumacher. It's. And you've got like a fat American YouTuber. They need Mario Kart rules. Like, what the fuck? Like, no, I'm not doing this. You crazy experience. Be good though. You're Bowser. They should give you higher top speed, right? They should be Bowser. I won when I, when I raced karts in as an adult, I raced karts in 05 and I won the over 200 pound class. Wait, wait, wait, wait. How many, how many people were in the class? It was full grid. Oh, cool. Full grid. It had to be clarified, right? Full grid before you took it. We're talking fat swats, people. I was crushing, though. Okay, good, because when in to go back to this fucking year, back to. We were showing my first ever YouTube video. Okay, nice. 18 years ago, to go back to that year, I made a commercial for my friend Nat Built the dopest go kart track in New York. Indoor two tracks. You could connect them together to make a super track. Indoor gas carts, Sodys, they were fucking fast. It was awesome. So he asked me and Tom Morningstar if we would make a commercial for them. But they didn't have a lot of money. So in exchange for paying us to make a TV commercial, lifetime free unlimited karting. And so me and Tom made the commercial. I then immediately began carting three hours a day. Amazing. I basically moved into the track. I would go to work, I'd come home. I left my racing shit at the track. I'd be karting two to three hours a day. My arms got so fucking jacked. When they announced the over 200 pound men's league, I was like, let's fucking go. And I qualified like Fucking Hamilton in 2014, dude. Fucking on pole across the board. Seven seconds, reverse grid. Hard charger crushed, Got the trophy destroyed. There was a time I went to my wife's practice every single day. Well, literally, my wife's from Bulgaria, right? And she. One day we were hanging out, she said, oh, there's this guy, he does YouTube stuff, he wants to meet you. So I said, cool. We went and hung out. We were chatting. He said, hey, do you want to go go karting? I was like, yeah, I want to go go karting, bro. And I think I'm gonna. I'm just gonna school this guy. Like, I drive. Wait, now do you have that confidence? Where did that come from? Is that just like, I like cars, right? Okay. I had a two at a point. So I just. I sound very smart when I talk, and therefore I'm good at. Look at all the places we've colonized. We can do it. But also, this was. He was like a fashion influencer. So I was like, come on, bro. Like, I got this. We get to the go kart track and he starts, like, high fiving everyone. Everyone's like, hey, man, nice to see you. Hugging him, like, well, he knows the people here. Next thing I know, I turn around, he's like strapping on a rib protector. He's got, like his own helmet, his own dress. I'm like, ass, shit. We get on the track and this guy freaking comes past me, like, freaking Fernando Alonzo carving me up. I'm like, okay, cool, I'm done. I've got, I've got. What does this do? He's a fashion influencer. He was a fashion insp. And he did the same thing, his friend's track and lived There. Yeah. So at the end of the day, I'm like, dude, what the hell? He goes, oh, I come every day. Yeah, you could have given me a heads up. It was great. I've never had more upper body strength. I was crushing it. Looking good, feeling fit. It was awesome. Every single day. That's a workout. I. I wouldn't be, you know, bummed to do everything, dude. We'd be ripping that track every day. Eventually he learned because he put a bar there, and obviously you couldn't drink and then drive, so he realized that he could sell a whole lot more liquor. He took out one of the two go kart tracks and made it a bowling alley because you can bowl drunk as fuck. And then he made a fucking fortune. Shout out to my friend Nat. And now he's a car dealer in Connecticut. This guy, when I say car dealer, he sells Chimera, the launcher things. He sells those. He sells ssc, the tuatara, he sells that. He sells Glickenhaus, the boots, the niche SCGs millionaire. And he sells like boutique track day race cars. And that's his HK Go. Just. Let's look at his inventory. I'm gonna give him a fucking plug. Yeah, let's look at HK motor cars inventory. I bet you it's the weirdest shit. If he does five cars a year, he's happy. He sells the weirdest shit. He just bought a store in Connecticut. He's got a weird. He's got a. Let's see. Inventory. Eccentrica. Eccentric. Chimera, ssc, vintage. That's those weird bronco things. So he's got some race cars, cup car, 911 cup car, some secondhand. Whoa. 91 BMW. BMW 850 Dinan, twin turbo. That's rogue. Let's go. Okay, how to make a complicated powertrain more complicated. He's got a supercharged 928. That's funky and weird. Carrera RS27, lightweight. That's very good. Amphicar Weird. This is where you go when bring a trailer's boring, right? That's what it feels like. We've got a bunch of old stuff. I thought he had like, race. Whatever. All the race. The. The weird supercars. He must be dumping someone's entire collection. Yeah, that's what it looks like. And then I guess random. A random 1984 military truck. Nice. This. This dude, though. Nat, this guy's all right. He's a good guy. Yeah, he's. He's a. We gotta. I. We have to do. He. His. His like SEO Death because nobody wants to hear from a car dealer they don't know. But anyone who clicks on a podcast that we do with this. This guy will enter a world of gold. How many hot dogs? Any hot dog stand. He started by with having hot dog carts in New York City. He's got a good story. And then, like, parlayed his way up to car dealer franchises. I wish I had that kind of brain. Yeah. Oh, this guy. This guy looks like he came from money, but he's just pure, pure hustle. He's the whitest Armenian you've ever met is what I'm trying to say. This guy. Guys got the rpa. We understand what's happening in the world of Sam. You got lenoed earlier. I got so Leno, but that was. I was like, wow. I just. You've been here to nod for about three hours. Yeah, I just watched. I just watched and, like, it's. And it's so nice to see you, dude. Thank you for inviting me and having me. I am here, selfishly. By the way, you know, I'm dropping off the box to right now. That's fine. I totally didn't tell you that. That's okay. I saw her. I was like, oh, yeah. By the way, Matt doesn't know, but I got to leave this here, right, Because I'm going to the airport in five or ten minutes. All right, that's fine. Cool. I thought I'd swing by and just check in on you guys. I'm so happy. Seven hours and we're happy to take care of the boxer. You are a paying customer, and leaving the Boxster is just fine. Thank you so much. You don't have to say that because we're on air, but, yeah, life's good, man. Have you been happy with our service at Westside? Fantastic service, great updates, wonderful invoicing. But no, I will shout out endlessly and have done in a video went live earlier today where you got a lot of shout outs. I appreciate that. So, yeah, we love having that car. We're gonna miss that. I'm here to get rid of it. Unfortunately, it's. It's going up for auction at the Broad Arrow Air Water. So that's the end of that. We'll see it at Air Water. We'll send it down. Put a bit in. Put a bit in if you want. Well, my car is going to Air Water. Which one? The spider? Not auction. Assuming on display. My spider is going on display, yeah. Okay, cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, mine's going. That's okay, though. You You've enjoyed it though. Yeah, it's been mega. It's a bit like. Okay, I had to do a short version of what you did with the Bentley. Right. It was for a purpose. It was like, can I. I was gonna ship the GT3 over my car and that was 20 grand. Yeah. In a container. And I was like, can I do this trip for less? Yes. Yeah. Not hard to do. Yeah. And I had a great time. And actually, your boxers are really nice. It's like a low mile. Well kept, nice box with chrome wheels. You know, the chromes can go. Honestly, the chrome skin, straight, go. All I will tell you is they grow on you. That's all I will say. I look at that car a lot because it's in front of me. Yeah. And they don't. They're not. Well, they're easy to replace for any potential buyers. Yeah. Yeah. They're not crucial to the car. No, they're not. Everything else about that car is pretty nice. Yeah. Yeah. It's a sweet thing, dude. Does it have a short shifter in it? Yeah, it feels like it. Right. Somebody put a short shift on it that we suspected. But it's not got a lot of paperwork. That's the only downside. Hence the auction. But it's, you know, it's been fun. And what else have I been doing? I. I mean, look, you're gonna get out of it for basically even money, right? I would hope so. We didn't spend a lot. Yeah. So if you instead of spending 20 grand to ship your car, buy a car and then get out of it for even money. That's smart math. That's right. Larry, what is a car that you would like. Like to buy and have an adventure with maybe over a period of time or maybe not, and then just get out with. Get out of. For even money? That is a good question. I. I feel like I. I did that in Europe last year. Did you buy something? Yeah, I bought a Euro E36 M3. Oh, cool. And it turned out to be a pile of trash. Oh, did. Oh, bummer. Did you find that out when it got back here? No, no, I found it out when I landed in the uk. It's a Spanish car with a blown motor, so had to get the motor fixed. Did my epic road trip from London to Warclaw, Poland to go to the ultrace show. Oh, yeah. Cool. And then, you know, driving autobahn car. Sounds amazing. Fun to drive great driver's car. It was just falling apart. But you know, it's one of those things we are. You live and you learn. Yeah. Yeah, but that's. You left it there. I did, but we're going to go ahead and restore it. Oh, wait, so it's. It's a. It's at EAG right now? Oh, no. Yeah, okay. It's at eag, Cincinnati, Ohio, and we're gonna restore it. I don't really know what I'm gonna do with it afterwards. We might auction it off. Well, wait, no. Secondhand. You. You went to Europe, you drove it. It sucks. But now it's at eag. What happened in between Europe and eag? Well, part of it is I'm a small part owner of eag and I want to really show off what EAG is capable of in terms of turning a car around. Oh, okay. That is such a pile of crap. That's documented to be such a pile. What it could look like after it goes through that process. And so did you ignore it in Europe? Let it go and now find it later? The same car. Had it the whole time. Had it the whole time. Drove it, did a whole YouTube series on it to tell everyone how much of a pilot. It's DAR Yellow and I, we nicknamed it Larry's Lemon. Right. So it's the stock car. Yellow E36€ M3. You know, such a great car. The motor talk about ahead of its time. Oh, my God. No, they're great motors. Yeah. High revving sounds amazing, but yeah. So just like how I like to do the whole, you know, drive cars in Japan. Wanted to do the same thing in Europe. Yeah. I'm gonna do it again. That's the fun of it. Sam, you have to go to the airport. Okay. Give me a hug. But no, dude, congratulations, both of you. We love you. These guys are leaving too. Okay, bye, guys. Bye. Bye. Bye, Ron. Thank you guys so much for coming. We really appreciate you guys. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks for coming. You good, Larry? Yeah, I'm good. Okay, cool. Sorry. People are coming and going. Yeah. No Brian Scotto. Maybe car didn't work. One of his 15. It would be maybe 15 hours. Johnny. Be a long come back in thing. We got an open mic. It's your turn, Johnny. I've been drinking your liquor this entire time. Johnny is back in the house. We have 16 minutes of radio. Let's do it. I'm so excited because I did not know Johnny was such a big Star wars fan. Oh, big Star Wars. So we were just nerding out Star wars stuff, but like, not like we're Star wars fans. Like, fuck the Phantom Menace. Everything that came after those three new movies are utter. Are trash. We're not like, so nothing post Jedi. No. Rogue One. Rogue One, the greatest. The volume of stuff they put out right now annoying to you guys as super fans. It's just the quality is as volume. They could. They could do a new movie every day and I'd be happy. But the quality has been shit. Except for as long as Andor. As long as they do films or series like Andor. Yeah, then we're all in. I'm such a huge Star wars nerd. I played with the playing cards. Trading cards as a kid. Yes, I did. Yeah, dude, I. I just. I lived it, you know, it was just a fantasy nerd thing that I enjoyed as a kid. I just. The most. Most disappointing moment of my life was. Was Memorial Day 1999. New York City, Phantom Menace debut. They had a Thursday midnight showing. And my friend Joel and I were the first. First people in the theater. And I've never been more excited in my life. And I remember, like, at some point I fell asleep stupid and I just. I walked out. I'm like, I guess I'm an adult. This is. This is just lame. I once waited overnight for a pair of shoes on a Black Friday release, only for the kid in front of me to buy them and try to flip them to me for 5x. Like, he turned around. Yeah. He was like, hey, you want to buy these? That's why I'm in line, dude. Yeah. Wow. He bought the side. He bought my size. Ah, yeah. Yeah. Never buying anything on Black Friday ever again. How you doing, Johnny? I really like this. The other, the second bottle you gave. What's it called? Invisible Swordsman. Where do I read the name? On the bot on the back. Where you're. Where you're. Yeah, right there. Boom. Thumbs on it. Invisible Swordsman. That's the one. I love it. I love it. This is. That's the game over. Yeah. Next level. Exceptional bourbon. When we were tasting them, that was the first one picked again, this is a mind blown. You have a bunch of. You have a bunch of. And Benderstache.com the other one is very good. But this one is the one that's like 100. This is my jam. It was a special bottle and it was very obvious. And it was. Again, I knew I was picking two barrels at a bunch, but that was like this one. This one for sure. And then we went back on the others. How do I buy a bottle of that? Is it possible? Yes. It was supposed to be live Right now. But for people who hear this on Thursday. It comes out Thursday. Yeah. It should be on bind now. There's not many left. Wait, well, I, I, I want to buy one. I will get you. I don't care about them. Yeah, I don't care about you promoting this to people. Yeah, Yeah, I want one. Hang on. I'll just listen to my party and I'll cry if I want to. I want you to say, bill, by the way, that song written by one Leslie Gore, dated by one Roger Farrell. Matt, just say you want the bottle. Sending a video. Yeah, I want the bottle. Bill, we're sending. Well invisible. How many entry level bottles have you bought to get that allocation? 7,500. Precious metals with diamonds. Mother of pearl. You gotta buy some of the cheaper bottles first. Smaller ones. Yeah, you gotta. I need to, I need to build up my purchase the crossover. Dude. Isn't that, that, it's so good. Thank you. That one is so good. It, it was a, it was an obvious. Yeah, it's a real winner. Yeah, thanks. Yeah, it's good. It's good stuff, dude. I can't believe we've done five hours and 48 hours. We've done seven hours and 51 minutes. Seven hours and 50 minutes. Five, seven numbers. No, you started the stream. Started a little early. Right? You said five hours. What? I did. You're right. I was wrong. That's why I was wrong. Yes. I was wrong. I was wrong. I wrote so many things. Should we. All right. I, I spent so much time writing things to talk about. We should do at least a couple of things. I got a better idea. We'll come back and do another podcast with just the, the little. No, I mean, these are, these are evergreen. We can use these. Okay, we can use these. But like, let's see. Hit me. Let's see. Hit me. I can tell where the next morning started. Okay, do you want a question? I wrote in the sun, by the pool with the cats or what? I wrote after reading the news this morning. Number 19. If you could murder an oligarch and redistribute their wealth. Oh, God. Who would you kill and where would it go? I don't know if we want to say this on. That's the problem. Oh, saved by the bell. Oh, darn. We're not going to get 10 minutes of radio. 10 minutes of radio. Happy birthday. Party mike. Party mic. Party mic. Who wants it? Hello. Wait. Activate it. We're on a mic. Hello. That is rough. Question. Hello, everybody. Ten minutes. Sarah Clark. If you change Your name? Are you going to. Excuse me, I apologize, I didn't know if you're going to into the mic. Sarah. Sarah Stringfellow SL Clapman Hyphen. It's. It's better with. It's Stringfellow Clapman. Yes. That's high society. Sounds good. Keep the hyphen. Yeah. If you keep the hyphen you get an issued 100 acres somewhere in the countryside in the. Johnny Lieberman, Jay Ryan, Christian Hand, Alana Shear and Larry Chen all on Mike for the last 10 minutes. Should we get another party mic? Is that a thing we can do right now? Try to be nice. I don't even know. I don't even know what we're doing. We could. Okay, we could speed round with questions. I wrote speed is good. We could. We could do play car you garbage like show of hands. Jesus, I don't even know Surehand sounds bad on the radio. I don't even know. I've been thinking about this for the last like two minutes but Stringfellow Clapman sounds like a chamber orchestra. You know like you got the violin covered and he's on. On some sort of. There was that amazing meme that called all music from the 2010s stomp represented by String. Yes, yes, yes. I'm Christian Hand with Stringfellow Clapman. Nice to meet you. We'll be representing you as the plaintiff in the this String. I think of Airwolf. Anybody? We already talked about the Airwolf helicopter on the roof of that house in Belair. The Makowski house. It did sell. They asked 250 sold for 94. Cuz obviously it was priced appropriately. But the we. The reason we brought it up is because the helicopter, it was advertised as being a non flyable replica. Correct. There was engineering. Right? That's not true. We went. Well at least we went. Hannah and I went to a party there and the real estate agent was like actually you just have to reinstall this cube and you can fly it out of here. We just aren't allowed to say there's a helicopter that's flyable here. That guy's wrong. My friend built that. It's okay. Well then it's fake. Okay, that's the other option. Rotting in the sun down. The other option is Guy. Totally fully. Because this is Los Angeles and it was a complete fake. I mean are you saying a real estate agent would lie? Not if they're represented by Stringfellow. Yeah, not in Stringfellow Realty. I'm not our company. We could take helicopter all your estate needs. Oh, no, Sarah should do a. What's the. The. The Eddie. The Whoopi Goldberg movie. The Associate. Oh, I love that. You should do an associate as Stringfellow Kaplan and make up a fake. A fake man to be a partner. Yeah. And then everyone will take you more seriously, but you'll be smarter than all the men. That's the moral of that movie. And then. Oh, so they take. Okay, they may. They have to make up a fake man because seriously, as women and people keep wanting to marry the man and they keep kicking the can down the road and the pressure. Kicking the man down the road until they have to break down the patriarchy. And Whoopi Goldberg does white face now. Sounds like she does white face. She does actually do multiple different white faces. What about she herded me in here? What about white boys discussing breaking down the page? What's his face? Wasn't that the Wayne's brothers? But Terry Crews. Underrated. He's hilarious. He's amazing in that movie. He is a fantastic comedy actor. How do you think this whole scenario is going over to the audience right now, do you think? Well, is it bad? Is it good? There's an audience. We're the audience. What? They're all sticking around? They're all still here. Maybe that's just because we've done a thousand of these. All right, I'm going to go to Hannah's question number nine. Huh? All right, fine. It wasn't. But I will because my wife is the smartest person in the room. Hannah's question. And she wants everybody. No one argued, by the way, starting with Larry Chen. You have to get a face tattoo, but you get to choose what it is. What are you putting a tattoo of on your face? How much would Ken Canon pay you to tattoo canon 5D. Like one eye? No, just mark. Just mark three. Yeah. MK3. I mean, to look. To look crazy. I would get the tears right. Like I killed somebody or something. I would get 70 to 200. Around your just like to like around my eyes. Like a zoom. Zoom lens, focal ring. Sick. Close your eye and get the iris on the outside. Oh, that's a good idea, dude. If Larry Chen could tattoo his with focus rings, that would be. Wow, look at Hannah's face. That was not the way the question was framed. Hey, Matt, what should I tattoo on my cock if I. The questions changed every. Everybody. Curtis and I saw someone who was a professional photographer, and they had focal rings. Larry's not. It would be a zoom. It would be a zoom. It'd be a 100 to 500 millimeter. 600 Alana shear. Pass the mic. What is your face tattoo? Is it. Can I just tattoo Larry's little sticker guy? Like just like on like my jawbone. Gotta be a mic. You gotta be a mic for that. You can't say things away from microphones on. I can't say. Yeah, no, I. I might just, you know, just. I think maybe like some chin hairs to like cover the real ones. Nice. If I had to pick a face tattoo for you, it would be right in your cheek and it would say ram air. It would be like a. Like a speedometer. Like a straight speedometer. Muscle car straight. You know, just like 0 to 85 rectangle speedometer. Yeah. Are the Trans am turbo lights. Oh, dude. Yeah. For sure. Christian hand was clearly considered this question in the past. It would have to be tears. You have to. It just has to be. Yeah. I mean, you murdered someone. Yeah. No, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. But not even in prison, just in. In general murdered somebody. I've spent a lot of time with Christian and it would benefit him socially if everyone he interacted with questioned if he actually murdered somebody. It would help. Like, not confirmed, like he didn't do it, but like, everyone was like, dude, like the tears, that means he murdered somebody, right? You're like, I don't know, man. Who do you think it would be? Like, who is the most likely person in this room to have. Actually, let's get through the tattoos. Jay Ryan's apartment is the cleanest apartment I've ever seen. I have often thought down the stairwell, you. You have all the rubbing alcohol, all the vinegar. True. It's true. Yeah. The right answer is Jay. Yes, Jay. Jay. What is. He's also like the. The nice guy who's much loved by everybody. So when we're interviewed, we're like, I gotta be honest with you. Yeah, I totally thought he was gonna do it. Also, the guy whose wife just died, like, how did she die? We don't really know. Why is there being sad life moments for me when I've been in this podcast today. This. That was the weirdo's chair. Larry really needs to be careful when he goes home. Actually, Larry needs to be careful cuz his wife's been taking all kinds of like, like heavy whoops. Like, what's. What's she doing though? She just said it's like lifting weights. She's like super badass and so have his kids. And so now he's like really scared to go home and be in trouble. Well, when she hears that joke, she's. I'm gonna have to be scared, too, apparently. No, no, she. We're on the same page about this. Okay, cool. Okay, good. Face tattoos finish the game. I also would have done. I also would have done tears, but for, you know, but for dip sack kind of a guy. Ew. So everyone knows you're sad all the time, forever and ever? Well, no, but I don't have it. I don't want a face tattoo, so I'm choosing that. But it seems like it's a pretty popular. Pretty popular answer. Jesus. My wife looked at me like. I just did, like, as a horror thing. I'm sorry, but you did or. I've had horrible things before. I've actually. I've just had a rethink. I think what I would do is I'd get my eyelids done with. Get. That's a good one. You know, like. Yeah. I never need to say anything to anybody ever again. Slow bling. You could just slow bling. All right. All right, cool. Get me. I get a neck tattoo with the sessions on it. Oh, nice. All right. Tattoo is always great. My own face, but thinner. Now covering your whole face or just on, like a corner? Full face tattoo. It's me, but thinner. More hair. So it would be kind of like those T shirts of the. Like in the. You ever seen someone with a tattoo? Tattooed abs? Like a fake tattooed abs? It would be that, but cheekbones. Yeah, that's what I do. Yeah. Yeah. That's actually an old Steven Wright joke. Full body tattoo of me, but taller. You know, I want. I want me. But as the pianist. Holy 559. We did it. We're at 802 12. Congrats. But we started. What are your tattoos? What are your tattoos? Quickly, Sarah. Sarah. Mine would just say match own. Bang on the table. Very precious. Very precious. I'm going to say this. If we get to 1500. Excuse me. No, what if we get. How many patrons do we have now? It's like 15 something, right? Yeah. I have to look. All right, well, I'm not going to say it. If we get to a certain number of patrons, I will get this as a tattoo. What? Why don't bang. Stop it. Stop. Nobody agrees with this. Bourbon supports this. I'm already at the place where I have enough dumb tattoos. And one more tattoo won't make me any dumber, right? It's true. Yeah, it's totally true. Just stop. Look, I will help push this sled. Let's. Let's go. Yeah. I've been talking to Steve O. A lot lately. Let's not do this one. Jesus. Would you do it on your face? No, don't bang the microphones on my face. Then. You don't have that is the number of subscribers and patrons that it would take to do it on your face. Oh, more than there are. The thing to do, though, would be to pull the dick move of getting it right here and then growing the beard over it and just being able to walk away. What? Just get habibi on my fucking jawbone. And then. Gone. Instant gone. Holy shit. That was just eight hours of radio, wasn't it? We have 15, 14 current patrons, so you. You have to get a tattoo tomorrow. 15, 14 current patrons. That's why I stopped there at the thing about saying that. Exactly. If you get 15. 15. If we get one more, we'll drive him to the tattoo studio right now. We can make a tattoo gun out of, like, a guitar string and some. Yeah, we'll do a jailhouse. There's a drill downstairs. Sure. A lot of people do prison tattoos in west la. I will learn. I will learn right now how to do. Do it on you. I will. We can. Sean might know. We can ask him. Yeah, he probably. It's good to know. Yeah, it's good to get to check. Check in on those people. Holy. We just did that much radio that. That went by way faster than I thought it actually did. Yeah, it's pretty good. I wrote. I did so much show prep, and I didn't need any of it. Exactly. That's what we're explaining. That's what we're explaining to our wives last night. You don't need to do show prep, dude. I didn't. It was all stupid. All of it was a waste of time and stress. I enjoyed the questions. The only one that mattered was Hannah's about the face tattoos. How do you feel? Huh? How do you feel? 1000 episodes and 8 hours in this extravaganza. How do you feel? I feel like a thousand of. Go on, just switch grooming. She's playing that. That's horseshit. She planned that. That's not why you brought that in. Okay, fine, it is. How are my eyebrows? Okay, we're gonna suck the helium out of the balloons. I mean, look, doing. Doing. Doing it. You guys haven't been married long enough. Trust me, doing a thousand of anything one at a time is very difficult and takes a long time. And the. The easiest way to not do a thousand of things is to. To stop doing it and so put that on. The more, you know, situation. Tattoo that on your face. Stupid. It's so stupid. But, like, that's the thing is you, like, you get up in the morning and then you do it and, like, you make the time for it. You just always make the time for it, even when you're not. Right. That's true. I'm not better at this than you are. What's the fucking secret? We just have to keep doing it. You just keep doing it. Yeah. If you like doing it, which we do. They'll. Woody Allen quote. You know, 80% of success is showing up. Yeah. So I have the thing on that Hannah got me behind my desk. It says we have a strategic plan. It's called doing things. Yeah. It's a good motto, though. It is. You just keep doing it. And you don't. You know, you can't. It's impossible to keep doing something this often and not improve or progress in some way. Just remain static. Have you hurt your podcast? That's a good point. Instead of. You heard Joe Rogan's podcast. Yeah. That has gotten worse. You know what, dude? We. Spike was in here before, and he said that unprompted. Seinfeld said he enjoyed himself last episode, which. That's. I. I can't think of a single more difficult audience. I cannot think. Soft. Come on. I cannot. I cannot think. He's very honest about. I can't think of a higher pressure guest than that. And if that guy had fun, then we must be at least reasonably decent at this. I. I would. Debating that. You're good. I would say I would like to see how you would handle this is advanced imposter syndrome manifesting itself right now. Matt. Like you do deserve the success. Whatever. I'd like to see you handled John Doe at a opening party of a ride at the Dotsberry farm. That is. That is the Vietnam of guests. All right. Christian's bad rock radio years really wins. Oh, he's a piece of work. So here's. Here's. Before we close this out and just crush these bottles privately. Good plan. So we wanted. You know, we want to do these live shows. Right. And I. Speaking of advanced imposter syndromes, I generally don't believe that our regular show is something that a live audience is that it's a live experience. I think it's a good. It's a good podcast. Preposterous. I agree with you. I want. I want Christian to come do his show with us as a double header. A double billing, you know? Yes. Because it's a great show, but also, you know, you don't even. Even better show. Awesome show. Hey, Car themed songs. It doesn't have to be that. It's just like. It's just like, here's a thing that we really enjoy and that you can. That, that, that everybody who sees it gets closer to a thing in a fun way. But you. I mean, look, nothing. Not even like anything about Christmas. Just. You don't need that, Matt. Like people like you. You're good enough, you know? I don't know. I agree with Johnny. All right. Yeah, well, I still want to do it. I still want. I still want to do it, Sean, because it would be more fun. Yeah, agreed. All right, should we. Should we head off? We've done eight hours. Did you watch all eight hours? Yeah, a couple people said they did. A couple people playing it the whole time? A couple people said they did all eight hours. Have you taken questions from the audience? Not a one. Not a single. We probably have. So many survived eight hours without going to the phones. That's pretty good. Not only did I not go to the phones, I barely went to the notepad. I mean, we could just answer all the Patreon questions that they listed for the whole day. Yeah. It's got to be hundreds and hundreds of. Yeah. Do a followup where it's not even possible. We have to do a. We'll have to do a follow up. 67. That's a lot of questions. That's. That is a lot. As your friends, congratulations. Thanks, guys. We did it. Well, sorted. Yeah. Yeah. More. That'll only take another 10. It'll take less time. Now we do two at once. 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