2025 Monterey Car Week Stories

Summary

The Smoking Tire: "2025 Monterey Car Week Stories"

Hosts: Matt Farah & Zack Klapman
Date: August 19, 2025

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Episode Overview

Matt Farah and Zack Klapman reunite after a busy Monterey Car Week for a debrief filled with car show stories, project updates (notably, Matt's new 2025 Myers Manx), critiques of the evolving auto scene, and colorful insider commentary. They explore the highs and lows of car culture—from dazzling hypercar reveals and auction antics to the simple fun of driving an unusual car like the Manx around Monterey. The episode is an entertaining, insightful, and at times critical reflection on the direction of automotive passion, the collectibility market, and the show's own hands-on adventures.

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Key Segments & Discussion Highlights

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1. Returning from Car Week: Logistics & First Impressions

00:00–03:15

• Matt’s drive home:
  "It was eight hours is how long my drive was. And even in a Bentley, that's a long day. But we're here." — Matt Farah (00:19)
• House rental experiment:
  This was the first Car Week for the team renting a house, which offered plenty of space (even for a trailer) and good vibes for group hangouts.
• Matt reminisces about impressive trailer parking skills and shares how the group consisted of key friends and family, creating a relaxed, festive home base.

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2. Quail Motorsports Gathering: Manufacturer Hype & Reveals

03:16–13:40

• The Quail's rise on the Car Week hierarchy:
  Matt and Zack note "the Quail is… the big one now" (03:01), with manufacturers treating it like a bonafide auto show for major debuts.

• Cadillac ‘Elevated Velocity’ Concept:

  • Matt stumbles upon the Cadillac reveal:
    “Elevated Velocity, as it turns out, is not a tagline. That's the name of the car.” (05:18)
  • Both hosts critique the concept’s wild design:
    “It looks like a luxurious fast Martian rover…”
    — Matt Farah (07:16) “The roof…is like six feet tall.”
    — Zack Klapman (09:18)
  • General consensus: Audi gasps, confusion, and disinterest—“I kind of like audibly gasped and walked away and I was like, I'm done with the reveals now.” (08:12)

• Gordon Murray F1 Reboots & Hypercar Critique:

  • Both hosts are awed by the Gordon Murray F1 tribute (T.50-based), but Matt laments the trend of “one customer” cars:
    “That's just literal Gilded Era shit. And we know how that ends.” (13:32)

• Industry Direction Anxiety:

  • Critical conversation about automakers chasing elite profits:
    “We don't want car makers to realize…they can make more money selling fewer cars to fewer people...”
    — Matt Farah (18:21)
  • Zack echoes worry about income disparity and enthusiasts losing out on accessible sports cars.

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3. Car Week Culture: The Good, the Bad, and the Toxic

20:34–26:16

• Supercars & Youthful Obsession:

  • Both reflect on the hypercar “spotting” crowd and how the market and community feel more vapid and transactional.
  • Matt critiques the Instagram handle trend:
    "The number of seven figure cars I saw with Instagram handles on their... Dude, like, this is some trashy ass garbage." (21:00)

• Cool/Classic Sightings:

  • Despite misgivings, both enjoyed classic rally cars, AMGs, Testarossas, and, notably, “a lot of Testarossas” being driven, not just trailered.

• Old Cars v. New Car Week Experience:

  • Matt praises the quirks of running classic cars like the Countach and the responsibility/fun of owing “cool” cars that require actual engagement versus “parking up front” in the latest supercar.

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4. Project Update: Matt’s New Myers Manx Electric Buggy

27:42–39:15

• Initial Ownership Tales (00:57:32–01:00:00):
  • Matt’s genuine delight in using the Manx as his full-time Monterey car:
    “I got up to 565 miles…in a little car with no windows or roof or climate control or radio or anything really. It was fucking amazing.” (31:40)
  • Reliability and practical adjustments: fixing a sensitive throttle, heated seats, fuel economy (565mi on 8 gallons!), and the fun of slow-car-fast philosophy.
  • Memorable moment: Jerry Seinfeld's reaction after Matt lets him start the Manx:
    “He did the face the most full of wonder, boyish, you know.” (33:19)
• Breakdown Adventure:
  • Car dies on the very last night (“karma’s up!”): Matt tells the story of rescuing the Manx with help from a fan, friend Jeff, and a lucky downhill push to load onto the trailer (52:37–58:40).
    “The very last one, the very last drive home, it was like, nope, karma's up.” (58:40)

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5. Hot Takes: Zinger 21C & 3D-Print Tech in Hypercars

39:15–42:00

• Czinger 21C Hype:
  • Matt describes seeing multiple running cars and the wild engineering:
    “These are just really interesting because of that additive manufacturing stuff… This, like, you can't... It's like, cool. Really cool.” (41:30)
  • Discussion of the car’s fighter-jet seating, insane specs, and unique approach to manufacturing.

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6. Pebble Beach Concours: Winning Cars, Oddities, and Best-of-Show

42:00–49:00

• Best in Show & Unique Finds:

  • Matt’s favorite (and this year’s actual winner): a Hispano Suiza with a body made entirely out of tulip wood.
    “The woodwork is almost like an incredibly fine guitar… This stopped me for about 10 minutes.” (42:16, 42:55)
  • Lancia concept with Lucite interior details and pop-up wheel spat covers.
  • Land Rover history display, Camel Trophy Defender, and Andy Warhol BMW M1 Procar sighting.

• Unrestored Low-Mile Ferrari:

  • Rare, gold-painted Daytona Spider with only 87 miles, and amusing color criticisms:
    “It's cut. I don't. Other than the go back. I like the gold. I. You know what I don't like is that black belt line stripe. That's a big fucking yuck to me.” (45:44)

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7. Automotive Culture & Ownership Reflections

49:00–66:00

• Driving Mode Philosophy:

  • Both agree old-school, fun, “approachable” cars (like the Manx or a Morgan) generate genuine smiles and positive interactions compared to over-the-top exotics.

• Ultimate Monterey/Pebble Cars:

  • Matt nominates the CMS Motorsports coach-built AMG shooting brake as his “perfect Pebble car.”

• Exotic Coachbuilds and Boutique Engineering:

  • Shoutouts to wild builds like Eli’s Porsche-powered Manx and Richard Tuthill’s new “LFG” Safari/off-road machine.

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8. Shifting Collector Tastes & Market Changes

66:34–69:53

• Matt observes the transition at Pebble/Monterey from vintage to boutique hypercars:
  • “The transition away from vintage cars and to hyper cars and boutique new sports cars… is happening pretty rapidly. The auction prices reflect it. The kind of stuff you see driving around reflects it. The cars have much, much newer.” (69:53)
  • Both note that the market for “blue chip” vintage cars is flat or falling, while 1990s and newer hypercars are surging.

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9. Q&A Highlights

Timestamps: 71:27–78:57

• Would you drive a Cybertruck for a month or a Model T cross-country?
  • Both: Model T, for the story and adventure. (71:28)
• Is the $1,500 Quail ticket worth it?
  • “I wouldn't pay $1,500 to go to the Quail.” — Matt (72:30)
  • “You can get plenty of value from Car Week without having to pay the money…” — Zack (72:44)
• “Don’t Meet Your Car Heroes” Example:
  • Matt: The DeLorean—looks great, impractical for LA.
  • Zack: Mustang Dark Horse—underwhelming compared to expectations.
• Why don’t manufacturers remake old car bodies on new platforms?
  • Regulation, packaging, and company scale limit this; such cars come from third parties, not OEMs.
• Best unorthodox police car ideas:
  • Both suggest Priuses, not militarized SUVs (“We need to emasculate” — Matt, 79:44).

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10. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On ultra-premium coach-building:
  “That’s just literal Gilded Era shit. And we know how that ends.” — Matt Farah (13:32)
• On Instagram-handle supercar culture:
  “The number of seven figure cars I saw that had Instagram handles on their... Dude, like, this is some trashy ass garbage.” — Matt (21:00)
• On the Manx’s role at Car Week:
  “You get…in terms of attention or whatever, it's nearly one to one with the hypercars for 2% of what it costs compared to one of those things.” — Matt (28:19)
• Jerry Seinfeld, upon starting Matt’s Manx:
  “That's fucking… that's something cool. That's cool.” — Recounted by Matt (33:27)
• On driving slow cars fast:
  “At regular car speeds… it's more fun than any exotic car. …You're making a bunch of noise, you're not really going all that fast, but you're sure feeling it.” — Matt (61:30)

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Final Thoughts

The hosts balance admiration for technical innovation and design at Monterey Car Week with a genuine unease about market exclusivity and superficiality infecting car culture. Their personal tales—especially Matt’s weeklong Manx adventure, including a classic quirky breakdown—demonstrate a clear preference for authenticity, mechanical engagement, and stories over status. A must-listen episode for enthusiasts who want the inside scoop on Monterey, both the spectacle and the soul.

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Transcript

[Matt Farah]

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[Zach]

I was shot when I got home and I.

[Matt Farah]

And up until like half an hour ago, I didn't speak to a soul today. So I want to talk about a bunch of things from car week because it was super fun and I want to put. And I have 565 miles on the Manx, which is pretty good for less than two weeks. But I want to, I want to talk about the Manx last because that, that, that little car clearly did, you know, dominate my attention for most of car week in one way or another. But we did do things. We did see things. We saw cars, we saw people. Things happened around us and to us and we made me made shit happen. Got a house for the first time. Never done the house thing. I think I liked it. Yeah, I think I liked the house. The House vibe is a good vibe. We really picked the fucking right house too. Had it, had so much room for a trailer. And my trail. Honestly, my trailer parking was pretty fucking very impressive. My trailer parking is pretty good. Still got it. 20 years later. 20 years after I last towed a car for money, I still got it. And yeah, Ali and his lady and, and me and Hannah and Zach and his wife Sarah. It was great. We went to some parties. I went to the motorlux, went to the Quail. The Quail was, is the big one now. And actually, man, like I, you know, I went to, I went to the Quail and I also went to the Concourse. And you know, obviously the Concourse is what the week is really about. But in terms of what gets the real attention for the week, I got it has to be the Quail because it's manufacturers, you know, are doing real reveals there. Almost like a proper, like auto show.

[Zach]

Yes.

[Matt Farah]

There's a full on like press junket. Did you see the schedule? So they gave us these little booklet that was attached to your media pass and you got it. You probably didn't look at it.

[Zach]

I've seen it before where it's like this company's doing a reveal, then 1125 and 1142.

[Matt Farah]

You know, just like how you and I do when you see the show, you do a lap of it because it's, it's, it's not in a circle. It's like a. It's almost like a big L. But the things are around the perimeter of the big L, the main booths with like cars arranged with like individually owned cars that have entered like the Concourse through in the middle and you do a lap. But like the press release thing was set up so that journalists could just go every 15 minutes the whole way around. Now, I didn't do that. In fact, I went to one reveal. I have to say, I happened to walk in right when I walked into the Quail, which was early. I like to go early, especially because I was showing the car. So I knew I was going to get bogged down talking about that. And I wanted to try to get one lap in like before Hannah got there because she was coming in like a couple hours later than me. And before it got too crazy. So I got there right. Like the minute it opened, I was there. And as I walked in, I saw the Cadillac press launch. Did you see the Cadillac? I believe it's called the Elevated Velocity concept. And before you Google Image, search it, Zach.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Matt Farah]

When I approached their big stand, it says Cadillac Elevated Velocity. And I go, well, that's kind of a nice tagline. Elevated Velocity. It's high end speed. Okay. I mean, it's not like it's not great, but like, I understand what it means. It's not like super stupid. And I figure like, you know, surrounded by like hypercars and shit, they're probably gonna have some like, you know, something cool, right? So I'm fast. Elevated Velocity, as it turns out, is not a tagline. That's the name of the car that they've got is elevated Velocity concept. So based on just what I've told you.

[Zach]

Crossover.

[Matt Farah]

Picture me. Picture me that car.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Did you see it already?

[Zach]

I did not. I'm hearing elevated into the name. So it's probably higher off the ground than a car. But they're trying to do a play on words where it's elevated above the ground, but also, you know, figuratively it's elevated above its peers. Velocity. It's just going to be something that's supposed to be kind of fast in concept, but I think it's going to be like a fast crossover.

[Matt Farah]

So your train of thought is on the absolute right track. But even on that track, it don't look like you think it's going to look okay. Now get the image. You know, seriously, pull up the image now, because it looks like. It looks like if you took, you know, that new $300,000 thing they're doing. Imagine you took that and made it into a coop and then just put like giant fucking normous wheels and tires and gi fucking normous gull wing doors on it and that. And it's apparently some kind of ultra luxury off road rover, like Martian Rover electric. Yes, it is a Martian Rover, but.

[Zach]

It'S a luxurious one.

[Matt Farah]

A luxurious fast Martian rover.

[Zach]

It's sort of shooting brake ish, but yes, very. I mean, it looks like it's a foot off the ground. There's a lot of. There's a lot of daylight underneath this car, bro.

[Matt Farah]

When I. They had it there under a cover and they were doing a reveal, but the way the COVID draped, I thought it was gonna be like a coupe or something that was on a platform. And it looks like a coupe that's on a platform, but just that has wheels that dangle down to the floor.

[Zach]

Oh, come on.

[Matt Farah]

It was. I wish there was a photo of it. You gotta get the photo of it on the stand. Like not these press photos. Just do Google images and see if you can find it from the launch. These fucking press photos. Come on. There. That's the like that looks like security cam footage. That's not quite it, but either way. Oh, there just. Even the profile.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

It's so tall. It's so huge and tall. So when they pulled this off, I like, I kind of like audibly gasped and walked away and I was like, I'm done with the reveals now.

[Zach]

So the back of it, the roof line looks like an F type, but only until you get to where the rear spoiler would be. Then you've got about 2ft of hexagons reaching from that roof line all the way down to the lower splitter where the wheels, you know, the air from the wheels comes out. I mean, that's really tall.

[Matt Farah]

Well, from that rear axle back, it looks like that Celestiq car, the new one, which I saw like 10 of them rolling around. I think they're all manufactured cars driving people.

[Zach]

But this is.

[Matt Farah]

It's a lot.

[Zach]

But the line on the top is not bad looking. It looks like a fairly traditional. Traditional coupe.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach]

But it just, it's lifted. It's. This is like micro machines. Very strange short front overhang. What are the wheels when you saw them, are they huge?

[Matt Farah]

The wheels look like 24s. They're huge. They're so big.

[Zach]

Can we talk about, like, the roof.

[Matt Farah]

Of this car is like six feet tall.

[Zach]

Wow. Yeah, yeah, I believe it. None of these photos.

[Matt Farah]

Got to find a photo of a human next to it. That's what we really need here. We need scale. In the desert, there is no scale. All of these press photos are completely devoid of scale. Theirs is on the stand. That's one the 3 days ago car buzzed. Yeah, look at that. So, like there's a human on the right. Oh, come on, please. Just there, look, there's a person. So it's really tall.

[Zach]

The. The door sill looks like it's almost knee height.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, yeah.

[Zach]

That's very high. The front is. It look as a concept, it's very, you know, future forward, whatever. But these air intakes on the front are so unattractive.

[Matt Farah]

Well, look at something else. If that front, you can see how the nose could be what future sedans look like. Ish on the nose. Right?

[Zach]

This part.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Zach]

You know, right where this hood crease is.

[Matt Farah]

Sure.

[Zach]

But this, it's a lot.

[Matt Farah]

Really. A lot.

[Zach]

You're eating parking lot cones with this.

[Matt Farah]

So we don't need to spend too much more time on it. But that's the other thing. So anyway, good. How about good things? Good things from Quail, The Gordon Murray F1 thing obviously.

[Zach]

Holy moly.

[Matt Farah]

That's incredibly sick. You know, it. It really does look like the F1 100% in a good way. And it's. It's pretty much T50 underneath, although they punched it out from 40 to 43 so it'd go faster. It's just incredibly sick. It kind of looks like. Yeah. God, it's so good.

[Zach]

It's so pretty.

[Matt Farah]

It's gonna have headlights. It has no headlights right now. Those are. See the placeholders?

[Zach]

Yes.

[Matt Farah]

They, like, didn't have time to do headlights, but they showed the show anyway.

[Zach]

I gotta say, though, this. The problem with this car, and it's the only problem is it makes. It reinforces the fact that the T50 is not, in my opinion and a lot of other opinions, stunning to look at. It's a little awkward, the proportions.

[Matt Farah]

I don't mind how it looks. I don't mind, but I think it's nice. But I think the T50 has things about it that make it a lot more usable. Whereas unless this has, like, a crazy nose lift system, like, this is a less usable car. Oh, sure. Probably wouldn't. You know, this is a car where someone paid Gordon an extraordinary amount of money to tailor something to their taste versus Gordon saying, what are my values applied to the car? You know what I mean?

[Zach]

Yeah, I agree with that.

[Matt Farah]

In fact, the fact that this is for, like, essentially one guy, like, is the biggest problem with it. Like, it's, you know, for gma, I'm sure it makes total sense to do something like this. It's a huge amount of money from one person. It's probably like, keeps your company running for, like, you know, months, if not most of a year. And certainly, you know, Gordon was. Was sick. And so probably this was able. He was able to. To ensure that his family is taken care of if something does happen to him.

[Zach]

But he's sick.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, he was fighting cancer.

[Zach]

I didn't know that. Yeah, that's why I wasn't at the event.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Okay. I didn't know that.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Wow, that's so sad.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, it's, you know, I'd like, like, as cancer can be, I think it's up, down, up, down. But either way, that's why he was. That I think, is why he was not on the show.

[Zach]

But.

[Matt Farah]

But. And that's not like, breaking news like, other. Other places have reported that. But either way, I just, like, I hope GMA is an incredibly niche outfit to begin with. And so. But. But Bugatti is doing these $10 million. One of, you know, Having whole cars developed for one person. More so than the normal tailor made type of stuff like this where you wear, it's a Chiron or a Toyot Tourbillon or whatever underneath and it's a. But it's a completely different car. I just like that's just like not good for cars.

[Zach]

Yeah, I agree.

[Matt Farah]

Like that's just like, that's bad. That's like, that's literal Gilded Era shit. And we know how that ends. Like we see the Gilded Era cars on pebble beach, like on the lawn on Saturday. Like we like we know what happened after 1929.

[Zach]

Like I think it, it does seem like there are more of the, you know, back in the day it was like, oh, only the Sultan of Brunei, right? Could this kind of stuff. And now Bugatti will make whatever 10 to 20 special edition Bolides or something because there's more people that have that much money, blah blah, blah blah blah. And I don't know, I mean this is such like I'm torn. Like this is such an amazing work of art and it's fantastic to see what they did if they kind of, you know, redesigned the McLaren F1 basically.

[Matt Farah]

And on the one hand they wouldn't have done it if someone didn't pony up the cash. On the other hand, the new standard shouldn't be that manufacturers realize that they can make more money selling fewer cars to fewer people for enormous amounts of money versus selling more cars that more people could afford. I'm not talking about BRZs, but I mean like Porsche for instance. To realize that moving ultra, ultra upmarket is really the way to go or Lamborghini or any of these people.

[Zach]

Well, it's hard. I think there are, there's the pull and the push, right? There's the pull of.

[Matt Farah]

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[Zach]

Car companies realizing they can do this and they can sell them to 10 or 20 people. So that's the pull. The push is increased income disparity.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Stagnant wages. And I'm not trying to become a social like just look at graphs. Yeah. And customers can't afford to buy enough cars to keep the companies afloat.

[Matt Farah]

It's gilded era shit. We were there a hundred years ago.

[Zach]

Sure.

[Matt Farah]

1929, it's 2025. Wake the fuck up.

[Zach]

Yeah. 100 years. Our memory is fantastic. This is like a little different because it's, it's a super exclusive company already doing another super exclusive thing.

[Matt Farah]

Sure.

[Zach]

But you know Ferrari does a little bit and if Porsche, they're not the.

[Matt Farah]

Only company doing this.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

I mean you know Ferrari has been doing in house coach building for about 15 years now, not to mention what they were doing in the 60s. But, but now and, and Bugatti is doing it and I think, you know, we were at the Quail. Like it's a, it's a crazy thing that, that type of stuff gets very, very normalized there. But I don't know it just because we're, we're, we're constantly being asked like what are the affordable sports cars? What are the affordable sports cars? And affordable means different things, but I think it generally means cars like under a hundred grand for sure. Like that's like that's already very, very expensive. But yes, baseline, whatever it is, like 75 grand is a lot of money. But not if you're buying a 911 Turbo. You know what I mean? Like so, but like we just, we don't, we don't want car makers to realize that they, that because their shareholders want profit. And if, if all of a sudden Audi or something, some a more mainstream ring goes hey you know, look at this, these, these guys are making super luxury cars for, and they're diverting res cars for everybody.

[Zach]

Right.

[Matt Farah]

To cars for just a couple of people. And yeah, they make more profit but they're like the rest of their product like goes down. Like that's bad, right? I think that's bad. Seems bad.

[Zach]

I think it's bad. I agree I think I would hope that a company like Porsche would be very careful and hesitant to do that because they do so. They put so much work into like their image and marketing their cars to everybody basically. And, and you know, the cheap ones are still good, the expensive ones are good and they have their exclusive manufacturer side. But I feel like they are trying, constantly trying to reach out and remind so many different markets and enthusiast clubs and stuff that they exist, that it would be a big mistake for them to now.

[Matt Farah]

I think so too. Economic force is very strong in a publicly traded company.

[Zach]

Yeah. But I, I think, I guess I just hope that companies can continue to do both. You know, if someone wants to pay you $10 million to turn a GT4Rs into a GT5Rs, whatever the fuck that would be, okay. But don't stop selling the regular spider, the regular 718 and all those other cars. Like keep that going. Don't. You know?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. I mean. Yeah. So to get a Tourbillon allocation, you had to already own a Bugatti.

[Zach]

Sure. That's.

[Matt Farah]

Eventually someone has. Someone outside this loop has to buy a Bugatti. Otherwise you're just. You're a car company that exists to sell the cars to the same 200 people.

[Zach]

Well, I think. But someone always sells their Bugatti and someone buys it. You Ed Bullion, technically he owns a Bugatti. He can get on the tour of list.

[Matt Farah]

I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, and probably you probably can't if you didn't get it from a dealer or you don't, you know, if you bought it, if you bought it at an auction or something and you have to have a major service history. Dealer. I don't think, I don't think fucking used like ratty ass, weird smelling Bugatti or what they're talking about.

[Zach]

No, probably not. But I just think there's enough cars that trade hands that it's probably hard to get in that door. And if you're fortunate enough to have the money to try to get in the door, good for you. But I think there's a way in. It's just, it's just not easy.

[Matt Farah]

I don't know. It's all, it all feel, it's all. It all starts to feel a little grotesque.

[Zach]

I agree with that. Yeah. Yeah. I don't.

[Matt Farah]

Dude, there was like so many Koenigseggs and Bugattis and shit. And it's all that like those kids cared about, like the people like on the side, like they all were just like the Hypercar spot. It was constant.

[Zach]

But when, when I was a kid, I was the same way. Because you see a lot of, you see other cars a lot. And if, but if I saw a Ferrari, because back then they used to be a lot more rare, I'd get more excited than if I saw an M3 or an old thing or whatever.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. And I'm not trying to like gatekeep cars. I just, it. I don't know, man. The fucking. Based on the vibe I got from the whole week, like the, the culture surrounding those type of cars right now is like medium toxic and sort of like vapid. It doesn't, I don't know how. So I don't know, maybe it just, I don't know, maybe it just seems like because the, because Monterey Car week is just all traffic. It's just so much traffic. You're driving these things that go so fast at a speed that is so slow. And every chance these guys get are just like neutral. Like, come on, man, like outdoor dining. Like, what are we doing? You know what I'm saying? Like, and it's just, it's like, bro, the number of seven figure cars I saw that had Instagram handles on their. Dude, like, this is some trashy ass garbage. Dude, come on.

[Zach]

Well, yeah, either those folks are trying to make have a tax write off with like, oh, this is my business. It's my media business, which is lame, or they're trying to get attention after they already got rich, which I, which is even lamer. It is lamer. And I'm not surprised by it because we've talked about this before. Like they poll students in junior high and like, what do you want to be? Influencer? And even before people, I think in the 90s, when, before that, a lot of we all looked up to movie stars and stuff because you saw them like, oh, wow, everyone, everyone celebrates them. They're famous. Wouldn't that be cool? But it seems so difficult. You go, all right, I'm going to go get a job as a dentist. I'm just going to go stay in my lane and I'll watch the movies. But now it feels accessible. Like you could almost get there if you put your Instagram handle on your supercar. And then you can not only be rich from your law practice or whatever, your private equity firm that, you know, guts a company and then makes the profit, but you also can be cool at a car show. And people all, everybody wants to be cool. Everyone in high school, if you weren't cool, you were envious. The people who were cool because it seemed like they had the secret, like, they had the key to life. Now you can essentially purchase that.

[Matt Farah]

Well, you definitely can, but it's. I don't know. It just. It seems like it. It's. I'm very, like, turned off to it, obviously. Having said that, I'm not saying, like, car week was bad. Like, car week was really fun. I saw, like, a lot of really cool. There was, as usual, like, crazy rally cars being driven around.

[Zach]

Yes.

[Matt Farah]

Old school. Like, amg. Like hammers and stuff. Really. Lots of skylines. You know, skylines have all of a sudden become, like, rather tasteful, actually. You know, and classic Ferraris and stuff. A lot of Testarossas. So a lot of Testarossas this year, probably. I saw several countaches, A few different ones, including one that suffered some real damage the day of the tour.

[Zach]

Oh, the black one.

[Matt Farah]

The black one, Yes. I think snapped an axle or something. Something rather ugly.

[Zach]

I saw two white countaches parked next to each other. One was Doug.

[Matt Farah]

One was Doug's. Yeah. I don't know who the other one was. I wonder if it was. Oh, our buddy, James Chen from Axis Wheels. Like, he's got. He's got a white. White.

[Zach]

I don't know. It was funny that. It was funny that on the quail, it's like. Well, for the most part, there's a lot of, you know, cars are fairly individual. It's like, we chose this because it represents this mark or whatever. And then there were two white countaches next to each other. Although, to be fair, there were also, like, nine white GT350 Shelby's. Because of the celebration.

[Matt Farah]

There was a Shelby class. There was a. I don't know if there was a Countach class, but every year there is, like, a vintage supercar class. So in that area where those Countaches were is usually always, like, countaches and Diablos and vectors and 90s super. There was. There was that white vector. I also saw a black vector. Okay. Yeah, vector. You. If you're rolling vectors are different story. Yeah, you're rolling a vector around car week. Respect.

[Zach]

Brave.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Zach]

You brought your own flat toe. You brought your own.

[Matt Farah]

That's the thing. Like. Like. Like, if you're rolling a Countach, like, you're like. You're personally rolling the dice a little bit. Like, you. You're not just buying in. You're like. You have to, like, be willing to, like, be a car person a little bit and, like, deal with a heavy clutch and deal with A fucking foggy window. You know what I mean? Like you gotta like. I've done car week a bunch of ways. I've done it in like press cars. I've done it in like other. The million mile Lexus. I did it without a car one year. I flew up. I've done it in my old cars. Like, like doing it in an old. If you're gonna do it in a cool car, like being a car person and doing it in a car that like requires like a little something of you, like a little bit doesn't need to be unreliable. But like you gotta like commit a little bit. Like just rolling up in your seven figure whatever and paying the valet 500 to park it up front. It's like pretty lame to me. Like there's just better ways to, to do it.

[Zach]

Well because I think the, the you know, buying a 720s and paying the valet all the money, you're doing it the easy way in a couple of ways. Like you're, you're buying a cool car, which is cool and it's an amazing car. Like I don't want to take somebody away from working hard and maintaining that car.

[Matt Farah]

7 Series car is excellent.

[Zach]

But actually the funniest example, and maybe it was intentional because it was the Porsche party, but as we walked up there were like 5 or 6 GT3 RSS waiting to valet their cars and look phenomenal vehicle on the track. Driving slowly in traffic on somewhat bumpy roads. Like there's not a worse car out there.

[Matt Farah]

I forget who fucking said it. Someone. Someone's. I'm not going to credit someone properly. I think it might have been. I think it might have been Ryan actually who said that the 992.2 or the new GT3RS is, is effectively the new Aventador.

[Zach]

Oh yeah, it was Ryan, right?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Yeah. Which is an incredibly astute observation. Yeah, it very much is. They all have fucking straight pipes.

[Zach]

Yep.

[Matt Farah]

None of which are needed.

[Zach]

And they don't sound good and they're too loud.

[Matt Farah]

They all sound bad. And they drive them slowly around with full downforce deployed. Yeah, yeah. And having actually tried that for myself, so maybe they are. Maybe they are giving something of themselves because driving one of those is. It does suck when you're not going fast.

[Zach]

Yeah, it does.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. That's better than some other ones. But no, I just like, I really, I got such a satisfaction out of driving the Manx around. Like no windows and doors. You know, like you're, you're outside and it's, it's small and fucking loud and weird. And I think, in my opinion, I think you get in terms of attention or whatever, it's nearly one to one with the hypercars for 2% or whatever one it costs compared to one of those things. So really showing it at the Quail but also just driving it around. When we got up to we towed it up with the Bentley which worked, you know, brilliantly actually. Bentley, Bentley V8s could certainly, certainly tow a feather light trailer with Myers Manx on it just fine and, and unloaded it right after the motorlux party and. And then the Manx was just my car for the whole rest of car week and we had had. So I took delivery of it on Wednesday and then we were. It was one week before we left so I had a weekend with it on the way home. I took delivery of it in Costa Mesa and drove it home 50 miles up the 405. It was running hotter than it was supposed to. It wasn't terminally hot, but it was a number that did not make them happy. So the Manx guys were a little red faced and embarrassed that that was my first drive and they came up here and they spent the whole day like fiddling with it and they discovered there was a bad O2 sensor that was causing it to run slightly lean which is why it was getting hot. They fixed that, they checked the tune, they drove it around for a while. They also put a bunch of different sensors on it and they found that the coolant, the temp display gauge was reading 20 degrees higher than the actual coolant temperature. So that, that's good. I mean, I mean it's not good but like better than the alternative. So anyway, but, but I used it. Let's see, they gave it to me with like 150 miles on it because they obviously did some development driving too. And I, I've got up to 565 miles and this is in a little car with no windows or roof or climate control or radio or anything really. It was fucking amazing. It was dead to nuts reliable. It did not run hot at all. I do have a list of things, list of notes, things that needs a little bit of adjusting. The throttle response for instance, is too sensitive at maintenance throttle. So if you're just cruising along in second gear, it's only a four speed so you're in gears a little longer. If you're just cruising along in second gear and you hit a bump and your foot does this, it then causes that loop.

[Zach]

You got the Jaguar sports throttle problem.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, the sport Throttle problem. So they need to. They need to, like, dumb the throttle down a little bit. It's all motec shit. And it was great. We took it on the tour. Here's the photo of us watching the Tour de Elegance in Big Sur. So we drove it down. The heated seats, awesome. They work great. Two mode heated seats. I only used eight. I filled it up when we. I forget how many miles I put on it before getting to Monterey. I think it was like. I want to say I was in, like, high twos when we. When I got to Monterey, I filled it up and now it's at like 560 and I only use, like 8 gallons of gas, which is pretty good.

[Zach]

Wow.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, it's, like, pretty efficient, actually.

[Zach]

Yeah, the Bentley used a lot more than that. I filled it up once.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Oh, you did?

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Oh, wow. Yeah. Oh, I guess you did. Yeah. Yeah, The Bentley uses more, although I got 13 and a half to 14 and a half while towing, which is really not bad. And then, you know, you guys left on Saturday. Hannah also left on Saturday. I drove it down to Spike's podcast down at Pebble. We did the show and I wanted to show Jerry. I'm showing him, like, pictures of it and whatever, and he's like, oh, oh, that's. That's interesting. Okay. And he basically insinuated. He's like, yeah, I'd like to have an engine like that. He goes. He said. He basically said, yeah, I'd suffer through that car to have an engine like that. And I was like, suffer? I was like, jerry, it's a really nice car. It's a brand new build. It was like. He's like, well, you know, come on, this is what you buy and what I buy. I was like, are you calling me poor? And he effectively was. Now he was being. He was having fun. And I was like. I was like, it's parked right there. I was like, you're not in that much of a rush. Like, you need to. So he took him out and he was looking at it and. Okay, cool. Neat. Neat. And he likes the seats. I told him the story, the thing, the Audi Stitch. Oh, that's cool. Cool. Now start it. And I showed him how to start it. And when he did the crank and the plunge and then it fired, he did the face the most full of wonder, boyish, you know, the. The this, you know, and then, you know, give it a few revs. And now I show him how to turn it off. And he, you know, pull out the big plunger knob and he's like, that's, that's fucking. That's something cool. That's cool. So I have, that, I have Seinfeld approval, which is, which is always fun. And then the four of us, me, Johnny, Spike and. Or me, Spike, Paul and Jerry, Johnny had to go somewhere else. Went down to the gooding tent. And so we just wandered around looking at, you know, some of the upcoming lots, watching a few auctions, watching a couple Ferrari 250s drop an absolute deuce. Nobody wants 250s, apparently.

[Zach]

Wow.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Old cars are going cheap and new cars are going real money, you know, 90s, super F50s, etc. Enormous money. And you know, every other old fucking car, Blue chip quote, cars down pretty much. But we go to look. Jerry and I are going, we go to look at this other car and we're poking around it and it seems, you know, it's maybe not great. It's okay, whatever, blah, blah, blah. And then we're kind of sitting around and, and Paul's like, wouldn't it be we should buy something? And I'm like, what? He's like, I got a paddle. And I'm like. And the guys are like, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's see what comes up. And they're looking like, everything seems kind of expensive coming up. But then this like 1950 Rolls Royce. 50 something Rolls Royce comes up and it's like black and gold and like a 6 million dollar Ferrari had just gone across the block. And the guy's like, open the bidding at 25,000. 25,000. And we all kind of like look at each other. And I'm like, that would be fun to like drive around in. And Paul's like, get it? And I was like, what do you mean get it? He's I'll go half, you get it. And I'm like, thank God it went for like $90,000. And it would have been too, too much to be a joke, but like, if this thing was like under 40 grand, I think we would have had to buy. Buy it as a joke. I don't know. But it's so unfair. It was crazy.

[Zach]

They all appreciates the idea. Then he's like, he's like, you buy.

[Matt Farah]

It, I'll go half. What?

[Zach]

This is your idea.

[Matt Farah]

I'm good for it.

[Zach]

You have way more money.

[Matt Farah]

I'm good for it. Yeah, but like, you know, they, they leave and I go to le emails me later and says that like my car and the car that we looked at together were his two favorites. And oh, by the way, he bought the one we looked at. I'm not going to say what it is because I don't know if he. If that he announced that to be public knowledge or whatever, but. But like he wasn't like, oh, this seems interesting. I might buy it. We just looked at it was like, huh, okay. He clearly went to the airport, got on his plane, pulled up the website, read something about it and was interested in something in the story. And then just like threw a bit in from his plane.

[Zach]

Wow. Which is pretty cool.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach]

So they go, you know a Koenigsegg?

[Matt Farah]

No. And everyone else is gone. I went to The Zinger Party. 21 Singer Zinger, 21C Party. They set five track records in five days. And they were celebrating that. I checked out the cars. They're gonna let us have a drive in the 21C. The Zinger 21C is incredibly cool. There were seven of them there. People are like. People are like, is this a real car? And I personally saw, I believe, seven or eight of them in one place. Customer cars. So I think they've delivered eight and I. And they can apparently do about one every two weeks, which is what they're doing. Yeah. So it's really cool. Really, really cool. Not 50 state carb legal, 2.66 liter twin turbo V8 bespoke, 750 horsepower and then 550 horsepower. E motors like, yeah. 3500 pounds. 1500 pounds of downforce. Yowza.

[Zach]

It's rad. I mean, I. I was. I'm kind of one of the skeptics because I work for company. We filmed their B roll in like 2018 or something. So if I'm getting sued right now by Kevin Zinger, I'm sorry. But I was so excited and I still am. When I see their manufacturing and they had the chassis out on the quail on the lawn. And I brought Sarah over and I was like, you gotta see this stuff. Like, look at this control arm.

[Matt Farah]

Look at the shape of the 3D printed stuff.

[Zach]

All the 3D printed stuff. And then what you can't see there is that some of their pieces are hollow in different spots. Like, if you imagine. Imagine you're baking dough.

[Matt Farah]

Like a geode.

[Zach]

Or like. Sure, yeah, like a geode. Like, imagine if you're baking dough and you start pulling it apart and they get those little air pockets, but there's like, you know, tendrils stretching between them or it's like, you know, venom. They have that because they know where to put material for strength and where you don't need it. And they did it with their brakes, they did it with their control. Like there's so many things in the chassis that are really rad the way they're made.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach]

But I remember seeing the cars that were headed up to Monterey 7ish years ago and then not really hearing anything about them since then. So that's why I was one of the people going, hey, what's going on with this car? Road and track tested one I think like a year or two ago, but their drive speed was limited.

[Matt Farah]

Jethro tested one for real for Top Gear like a couple weeks ago at the same day as they did one of these records.

[Zach]

Sure.

[Matt Farah]

At Thunder Hill, I think. And they said the car that I can drive is 100% production. Finished car, full power.

[Zach]

Sick. Yeah, I think it just, I'm hoping that like so many other people, you know, when they decide to take on the endeavor of building a car, you realize how complicated it is, but it doesn't mean your idea is bad or that's going to be a problem.

[Matt Farah]

These are just really interesting because of that additive manufacturing stuff. I mean they don't, they don't. Look, it's not like anything else. It's not just, I mean just carbon tub is cool, but like, like this is the, if you see the inside of these, like you said, it's like that's a, that's a different shit.

[Zach]

Yeah, really different. I mean I should add for people who don't know, they use. The company that owns Zinger is called Divergent and they do additive 3D printing with metal at an industrial scale.

[Matt Farah]

Industrial. For military applications. Like all kinds of stuff. Yeah, but I think I heard between Kevin. So Lucas Zinger, the son who's like our age, runs the actual car, the car company. The father runs the 3D printing company. And they're mostly industrial and military applications. The car is sort of a halo product that shows off what they can do. Still important but you know, manufacturing in California and the car is not ultra low volume vehicle manufacturer. So they crash tested it. They, they pass emissions in California. They pass CARB. They pass whatever the 2028 CAFE standards were that now as I said in the previous podcast, I have no fines but they, they, they pass those too. They. So they say. So when I got in it and started it and revved the engine, you could just feel like the engine revs real fast, like 911st fast, but there are no vibrations through the chassis when you do that rev. You know what I mean? Like, like, like F1.

[Zach]

But is that because they're. The rotating mass is so small.

[Matt Farah]

Rotating mass is so small. And the chassis is so rigid. And the engine is mounted in a way where it just does not vibrate. It's just such a smooth revving engine that it doesn't send any vibrations really at all into the chassis when it's unloaded anyway. But like, you know, if you, if you think of a Corvette or some big end. Big, you know, the whole thing tilts. It tilts and you can feel it. This. There's nothing. It's really interesting.

[Zach]

It's very.

[Matt Farah]

Like, even the. The SSC that we drove a couple weeks ago and like the Nelson racing like that for a quote, LS based. And it's not really LS based, but it's LS based in design family. You know, the flat plane, the change displacements. Not exactly, but. But you. If you revved that, like, you could feel it revving this. Like, you can't.

[Zach]

Wow.

[Matt Farah]

It's like, cool. Really cool.

[Zach]

Tiny V8.

[Matt Farah]

Tiny.

[Zach]

Really?

[Matt Farah]

2.66. Yeah. Yeah.

[Zach]

I'm excited.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach]

The funny thing is, if we drive it together, you know, the seating is f. Fighter jets, baby. Right. So we'll need comms to discuss. Super cool.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. So the, you know, California company shout out to them. But then, you know, I, I. So I stayed for the concourse. And actually, if you look at my Instagram post from the concourse, my favorite car ended up winning the best in show. This Hispano Suiza had a body made of tulip wood.

[Zach]

What?

[Matt Farah]

Look at the next.

[Zach]

What does that even mean?

[Matt Farah]

Literal. The wood of tulip plants.

[Zach]

Tulip wood, but, like, do tulips turn into trees?

[Matt Farah]

I guess.

[Zach]

All right.

[Matt Farah]

Somewhere it's a torpedo back. It's a Speedster frog, open fender and then. And the woodwork is almost like an incredibly fine guitar. Click to the next photo. The first four photos. It has an alligator or crocodile interior. Whoa. And some ridiculous, beautiful chrome gauges. And there's like 1800 aluminum rivets holding all the wood together. Click one more. That's the tight shot of the wood. Wow.

[Zach]

The wood looks like it's been hit with. With precise buckshot.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. This stopped me for about 10 minutes. And I don't want to say I called it, but clearly, look, I said this is my favorite car of the show. And that ended up winning best in show. And then the one after that. It was a Lancia concept car. It was really, really funky. It was almost like an American car from a Motorama Futurama. Car from the 50s, but it's a Lancia with wheel spats over all four wheels. And if you click to the next photo, Zach, on the other side, they just pop up like the luggage doors on a Greyhound bus. So you can get to the wheels. And then the next photo of this one, the dash, the steering wheel, all the control knobs, the shifter knob, and all the gauge bezels are Lucite.

[Zach]

Whoa.

[Matt Farah]

Amazing.

[Zach]

Yeah. Very Motorama. Very much so, for people listening. Yeah. It's almost like. It's almost like the car is sinking into the ground and the wheels have disappeared.

[Matt Farah]

So funky, right?

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

So some of this stuff, the Virgil Exner stuff, here's a guy with a. The guy with the blue coat there is showing his Ferrari and has his parrot on his shoulder. Oh, wow.

[Zach]

It kind of blends in.

[Matt Farah]

It does, sure. Yeah. And there was a cool Land Rover display of some really historically significant Land Rovers. The Darien Gap. The. What I really liked about the Land Rover display, and you can see by the yellow flags behind it, is it was the most downwind section of the entire concourse. Make of that what you will, you know, sometimes you just want to be real polite and go downwind. Maybe it's farts, maybe it's something else.

[Zach]

The truck smelled bad, huh? You think the trucks smelled bad?

[Matt Farah]

No, but, like, hypothetically, if a fucking total degenerate wanted to smoke a fucking joint at the concourse, I'm just saying, hypothetically, you would find the most downwind section of the concourse, perhaps one with a cliff behind you. Gotcha. And I'm not saying that I ended up there for that reason, but I'm saying it would be a good reason to end up there once you got there. Discovering an actual Camel trophy defender is pretty rad.

[Zach]

That's pretty funny.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. And then, yeah, the BMW Andy Warhol M1 Pro car in person is the sickest shit.

[Zach]

Yeah, that was cool.

[Matt Farah]

That's the fucking jam. This Ferrari Daytona Spider in Jewish racing gold had 87 miles on it and was in the unrestored preservation class.

[Zach]

It's just such a waste of a car.

[Matt Farah]

It really is.

[Zach]

Plus painting it Jewish racing gold.

[Matt Farah]

It's cut. I don't. Other than the go back. I like the gold. I. You know what I don't like is that black belt line stripe. That's a big fucking yuck to me.

[Zach]

That's not rubber. Is that paint?

[Matt Farah]

No, that's a painted recess. Oh, that's no bueno.

[Zach]

That is not a good accent.

[Matt Farah]

And it goes all the way around the back, too. No, yeah, that just needs to be painted immediately. Yeah, just body color, regular paint, body color.

[Zach]

I mean, an accent spot might be cool, but just ask an artist what goes with gold besides black.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, it's not good.

[Zach]

This is.

[Matt Farah]

This was. This was Virgil Exner's attempt to revive the Duesenberg brand on a Stutz Blackhawk in the 70s. And the car is weird as fuck. If you look at the click to the next one, the dashboard, this photo, you. You might really have to zoom in on your phone. That vertical center stack is insanity. And it. Whatever the. The bezels are made of is this weird gold, tiger's eye, like, pearly thing. If you zoom in on it, it looks real crazy. I don't know if you can see it.

[Zach]

The interior does look very nice. It's much better looking and simpler looking than the exterior.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, there was a Virgil X Nerd tribute class, and this was one of them. Me. And I was walking around with. Oh, shit. Who was. Oh, with my buddy Pete. You know, Pete Brotman?

[Zach]

Oh, yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Shout out to him. Vintage car dealer. We got. We scammed our way into the Lamborghini booth for a little espresso and. And then we were walking around and that Imperial, I looked at that and I was like, if this rolls up to your house, your dad is gonna die quietly. Like, just. He's just gonna. 1. He's just gonna be standing and then not be standing and be dead. That someone gets out of this car and stabs your father in the neck with a needle and then just carries them away.

[Zach]

Well, because someone sits in the back and just nods. Yeah, done. Right. I saw Pete at Motorlux, and I think he was in the middle of, like, trying to sell a car, because I walked up and said hi. And he gave me the head nod, handshake, kind of like, hi, how you doing? And you know when you're talking to a girl and you're 14 and it's like, hey, what's up, dude? Yeah, get out of here. I took his nod and I turned around.

[Matt Farah]

He was doing business, you know, business. But then we went to the Lamborghini house, like I said, and I met a fucking cool dude at Lamborghini factory named Nicolo. And I learned that they now have a sort of a process that's kind of like the Ferrari classic process where they authenticate your car. And you know, part of it, you get this beautiful book that really, doc, you have to bring your car to a dealer and they look at everything, all your serial numbers, they make sure your engine gearbox Match and this and that, and it's a few thousand bucks and you get a letter of authenticity and a book and whatever. So I don't know. Might do it when the restoration is actually done. Seems like maybe having a thing worth doing.

[Zach]

I think so.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

This is a real one.

[Zach]

See? Right.

[Matt Farah]

See my certificate of authenticity. But yeah, the Lambeau House. Pretty sweet at pasta makers in there. Yeah, it was all right.

[Zach]

What day did you go there? Sunday.

[Matt Farah]

That was at the Concourse.

[Zach]

Oh, okay.

[Matt Farah]

No, it was their. Their house on the lawn at the Concourse.

[Zach]

Wow.

[Matt Farah]

Also went to the Rolex breakfast, which was all right. Met Tom Christensen, the Le Mans driver.

[Zach]

Yes. Putting it mildly.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Nine time Le Mans champion. Sorry. So, you know, and then I was. I went back to the house and I took a nap. Everyone's gone. I have the whole house to myself now. Jeff Glucker and Andrew from Acura, you know, invite me to the Acura dinner, and I have nothing else to do, so I go. It's way out at Carmel Valley Ranch. And I had connected the trailer to the Bentley. I'm not gonna roll out there dragging a trailer. So I drive the Manx out there. And this is now, you know, 6:30pm the night of the Concourse. All other exotic cars have gone. I am the last interesting car driving down. I saw no other interesting cars. Wow. Like, hours after the Concourse ended.

[Zach]

Wow.

[Matt Farah]

Just gone. It took me 20 minutes to get from our house to Carmel Valley Ranch. And there was no other.

[Zach]

That was like an hour drive earlier in the week. Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. So dinner's good. Whatever. Come back and. Oh, by the way, you know, other. Done. Whatever. It was Saturday night when I went from the Zinger party to the fire pits at Spanish Bay. It was raining, and I was driving that, and so.

[Zach]

Or the windshield wipers.

[Matt Farah]

Well, it's funny you mentioned that. So me and Zach, we're looking at each other at the table right now. And if I'm driving the car and looking out the windshield at you and you're forward, you're where I need to look. The windshield wiper is really good right here. Here.

[Zach]

It's basically here in front of your shoulder.

[Matt Farah]

It's in front of my right shoulder.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Matt Farah]

So I. I have two options. One is to turn the wiper on and.

[Zach]

Oh, boy. And you can actually see in the photo.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, you can see in the photo. I could. I could. I can literally do this. So I. What did I do? I tried the. The reach around wipe a few times. That got very frustrating. That got very frustrating. And then and then eventually I committed to the Ace Ventura and I went head out, right hand on the wheel.

[Zach]

How fast were you going?

[Matt Farah]

Well, I was going down 17 mile drive at night in the wet. So second gear, you know, 30. I was not mobbing. It was cold. My head was outside of the vehicle. Oh, man, that one was tough. So on the way, I go to Carmel Valley Ranch for dinner with Jeff and Andrew Quillen and Acura and some other folks that were there. Lynn. And coming back, last drive before the car goes on, the trailer hit pch, Turn right to go back to Monterey, our house going up the hill. About quarter mile up the hill, the car dies. My very last drive of the whole trip. The car's been fucking perfect the entire time. And it dies. And. And before it died. Just before it died. Not like seconds before, but maybe like a minute before it died. You know, I've got my flashers. High beams are up here. Normally they do the floor high beam, but I made it on the trigger right before I went to flash the high beams. Not to flash somebody, but to turn the high beams on. And when I pulled the trigger, it went from low to high. And then the lights turned off. And then I let go of the trigger and they went back to the low beams. I tried it again a couple times.

[Zach]

Okay, so you have a voltage issue.

[Matt Farah]

Well, so the car dies. Full power. No, there's no power. No electricity at all. And I coasted to, like, now we're going uphill, so I have almost no inertia. I coast it to, like 30ft below. There's a side road. I quickly hop out and, like, try to push. Now there's construction, so there's mad traffic going the other way. Traffic's flying up the hill. Almost dead stop going down the hill.

[Zach]

You're still going uphill. You try to keep pushing the car pushing back.

[Matt Farah]

It's £15, but, yeah, I can't do it. I can't do it. So I yank the handbrake. A guy, I don't know if he recognizes me. I think he does. He goes, hey, let me help you. And runs out of his car. And we push it with two people. It's real easy. We push it like the 50ft to the side street. And I'm like, oh, thank you so much. Thank you so much. And, like, traffic's starting to go, so he just like runs, runs back to his car and he's gone.

[Zach]

It's Jerry Seinfeld.

[Matt Farah]

Thank you. Yeah, right. Thank God there was cell service because it's dark. Really dark out there, wherever I am, and there's traffic, but other than that, it's dark. And I'm on this little side road. And I go, okay, I've already hooked up the trailer to the Bentley. Do I have cell service? Yes. Step one, get an Uber, pick me up, go to the house. So I get an uber. It's like 10 minutes or whatever way. And I go. I don't have power. And the ramps onto the trailer are kind of steep. And I go, I don't know how I'm gonna get this on. There's no winch on the trailer. So I called Jeff back, and I go, jeff. And he goes, it broke, didn't it? He's like, it's not even enough time for you to get home yet. He's like, I knew. I knew it. He's like, I knew something happened. Second the phone rang, and he goes, what do you need? And I go, well, I'm gonna get an Uber. I'm gonna go get the trailer, but. And then can I come back to Carmel Valley Ranch and get you, and we can go load it up, and then I'll drive you back to Carmelville. Now, for people unfamiliar with the geography of this, each leg of this is about 10 miles, okay? So, like, I, you know. And it's real dark. So, you know, I then execute this plan. I go to the house, I get the trailer, I drive all the way back out to Carmel Valley Ranch. I make. Because an empty aluminum trailer is, like, loud. And there's all these speed bumps in Carmel Valley Ranch. I make so much noise coming in this fucking place. Jeff tells me he can hear me from, like, really far away. Just, you know, an empty trailer. Get Jeff. We go back. Fortunately, I didn't. I didn't look too much into the side street. I just made sure the Manx was safe before I abandoned it, you know, in an Uber to go get the trailer. So there's actually a downhill. And I'm like, oh. So I parked the trailer pointed down.

[Zach]

Just soapbox it in there.

[Matt Farah]

And then we were able to. And actually, a dude in a Urus stops, and he's a fan. He recognizes me. And so, all right, I hop in and steer, you know? Cause I gotta get some inertia. But, like, you, it doesn't. It's not a solid piece. It's two ramps, so we gotta line it up, right? But also get the inertia of the downhill. And we do it, and we actually. It's pitch black, but Jeff and I get the thing strapped up pretty good. And I run him back to his hotel. I run back to the house. I had intended to be in bed at like nine. It's now midnight. It's now midnight when I get back to the thing. And I now have to like sort of prepare the Manx for transport. So I had called, I woke up Jonathan, the radio guy from Manx. And we think it was just a fuse. There's like a main fuse. Cause the only things that worked were there's no power to anything except those high beams. Funny enough.

[Zach]

Strange.

[Matt Farah]

And the starter motor.

[Zach]

Motor.

[Matt Farah]

And the starter motor is hot. Wired directly to the battery for very obvious reasons. Has to start when everything else is off. So that led him to believe that there was a fuse somewhere. And he was like, he's like this is going to be a five minute fix. I just, you, you just can't do it in pitch black on the side of the road right now on a Sunday night. So fortunately Jeff was a rock star. Got out of bed. He mid jerk. I mean he was like, like about to.

[Zach]

Well now he's edging. Thanksgiving.

[Matt Farah]

He was totally edging. I massage seated him, you know, calm him down.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Now he could get back to his hotel finish literally. And yeah. So I spent like you know, half an hour prepping the car for, for trailering at like at like midnight. And yeah left at 7 o' clock this morning.

[Zach]

How do you, you prep it? You just take the.

[Matt Farah]

I had to put seat covers on, take the top off like bolt this, the, the bolt the top bar together. Like just like, I mean little. But it's like by myself in the dark.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

You know, at midnight after the concourse.

[Zach]

And like all this a long day.

[Matt Farah]

That's a very long day. That was a very. And then this morning it. Because that accident then took eight hours to get home. So. But like you know, I feel like it was you know, on the racetrack it's just one more lap and then you, you know, crash or at the ski mountain it's one more run, you know, and that's when you have a huge accident or something. This was one more. You know, I didn't have to attach the trailer to the Bentley. I could attach the trailer to the Bentley in two and a half minutes. I'm really good at that. I wanted to hook the trailer up to the Bentley to prepare. I'll just drive the Manx today. I could have just driven been like ah, week's over, drive the Bentley to dinner, whatever. But I wanted to commit whole week with the Manx every Drive. And the very last one, the very last drive home, it was like, nope, karma's up.

[Zach]

Well, you know, you're durability testing, so hopefully this thing's just like something jiggled loose or whatever.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, it's some. It's something really stupid. It's been. I mean. So the notes for adjustment. Yeah, there's the driver side mirror. Just needs to be tightened a little bit. It feels like the clutch cable might need to be lubricated. It's not quite as smooth as it was the first couple of days. The. Oh, the skid pan under the engine, there's a skid plate. My car does run a couple of degrees hotter than the other car. And it was only doing it for me. When they were testing the car, it wasn't doing it. And when the boys came up to fiddle with my car, it wasn't doing it. Then when I'm driving, it's doing it. We couldn't fucking figure it out. And eventually Jonathan calls me. He goes, I've got it. When we tell. When we test your car, when we're fiddling with it, we take the skid pan off to check for leaks. We then put it back on, and you're driving it. Oh, it only happens after I've been driving for, like, an hour. Hour. Like 45 minutes. An hour. It literally, over time, heat soaks the skid plate and traps heat. And so they're gonna punch louvers in the skid plate and. Or make some type of a duct, you know, but that's like a. Yeah. Who does? You know, maybe someone would have seen that coming. But, like, you know, there's one. Okay. But, dude, we drove it. We drove it everywhere. It was awesome.

[Zach]

It. I mean, it's so bright. Like, the sparkle is amazing, but it's fantastic. Like, people looking at your Instagram, seeing that thing go down high one. I was behind you for most of it in the Bentley. It's such a cute, friendly thing. And to your point about driving that versus hypercars, Sarah, while we were driving, was like, what would you bring to pebble of everything? And I was like, I'd bring like, an electric Volkswagen 21 window bus or something. Because I think the move is people start out buying a hypercar thinking, like, that's the cool thing. And then you realize you want something small and friendly. Yeah, we had the same effect with the Morgan. No one's threatened by the Morgan. No one thinks you're a douche driving the Morgan. Yeah, it's just, like an approachable car that people think is fun.

[Matt Farah]

Pretty interesting fun. Something that makes people smile.

[Zach]

Not trying to be tactical, masculine, whatever.

[Matt Farah]

Something that is like not so clearly ridiculously overqualified for a traffic jam.

[Zach]

Yeah, we saw, I mean There were many McLarens driving around, but we saw one and it was from like some speed shop and they had like, they had their name on the sill.

[Matt Farah]

Oh, the Lamal fin.

[Zach]

And they had the Lamar fin, the Docile fin. They had, you know, super. It was like they were under braking and they were going 5 miles per hour in Carmel. Like that kind of peacocking is just ridiculous.

[Matt Farah]

No, the, the Manx is at regular car speeds and I'm talking about anything under like, like 70. It's more fun than any exotic car you fucking. You're doing it. You feel the rack and pinion steering communicates beautifully. The ride is really good. It's really engaging and fun. It's capable to a point, but it really reminds you about the purity of, of driving at speeds that are. Dude, you know, there's that. So the road. I took this road from our rental house to like Pebble. There's like the back way. It's like Aguajito Road. I took that road every time. So like doing like 35 bombing down that road and this is like doing 90 up Angeles Crest or something. You know, you're just like ripping through the gears and you're like, you're making a bunch of noise. You're not really going all that fast, but like you're sure feeling it. You know, you're feeling all of it. And so I really, I really got down with it.

[Zach]

Good. Slow car's fast.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, it's not that fast, but it's. And actually at, you know, going down the section of. It's Highway 1 between our house and pebble beach and a Carmel like that sort of Hilly, windy, two lane road doing that at 60. Fabulous. Absolutely fabulous. Such a fucking nice thing. A little bit of a rolling roadblock when your friends all drive sports cars and you're going down to Big Sur. How did it sound being behind it? Like airplaney or not really.

[Zach]

Yeah, it's got like a blat, you know, kind of sound to it and it's strange in a good way. Like you, you've never heard. Heard anything like it before.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, that's cool.

[Zach]

This is funny. That's.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Too bad Johnny's take is actually wrong.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

And I could fucking prove it. I have it in right rating. He. He wrote to me that that was his favorite car he saw that day. I got the receipts. Habibi.

[Zach]

Yeah. Is well executed.

[Matt Farah]

I think. I think actually our buddy Shant to go back. Go back to the. The. The. The. The shooting break that Shawn built. For me, that is probably. It's a previous post. For me. That is probably the ultimate pebble car car week car for me. A coach built AMG car with a beautiful. This is a shooting brake built by our friends at CMS Motorsports. Crazy interior.

[Zach]

Yes.

[Matt Farah]

Great visibility. So you can see everything looks cool.

[Zach]

The side rear window is long. Actually longer than the hood of this car. And try to think of any vehicle. I mean like the rear window on a Suburban, the rear side window. This looks longer than that. And that. That's probably the biggest piece of glass on sale. So the thing looks crazy and really cool.

[Matt Farah]

That to me is my perfect pebble car. Get a good house. Cause this car, you wouldn't have to trailer this up. You could drive this up. Get a great house. Get a car like this that looks cool and makes people think. It makes people smile. People go, what is that? What am I looking at? There's Easter eggs in there. For instance, it kind of looks like. Car has a blue tint and in fact it has like window tint and in fact it has fully clear windows and a full blue interior. That's like insane.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

So that's my idea of like the. Probably the perfect pebble car. But we're going to. I'm going to do a lot more with the Manx though. Like. And do you see Eli's Manx? It's sick. The green. The green one from Auto Works. That one.

[Zach]

I don't think I saw it.

[Matt Farah]

It was near mine, but it had a Porsche motor and Porsche like. Like tail lights and Porsche gauges. It was pretty slick. I was into it.

[Zach]

That has a spicy engine, right?

[Matt Farah]

A spicy Porsche engine.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. And then there's the Tuthill one, which is just banana.

[Zach]

The lfg.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Well, that's not even.

[Matt Farah]

That's not a man.

[Zach]

That's not a man. That's its own thing. Yeah. It's insane.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. LFG is a very good name. It stands for Loud, fast Gone. Of course we can do. Yeah. Look, I mean this is so that this. What's crazy is this thing looks like it looks like a plastic concept car.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Like many. Most. Most new cars, especially these boutique cars when they're first shown, it's like a plasticky concept car. Right. Or you know, something the next step up from a scale clay model.

[Zach]

Really.

[Matt Farah]

This looks like it's that. Except that's not. That's actually it. That's a finished. Not. I mean it's not finished, but it's a fully functional running driving. The screens on the dash work. It has carplay. Richard was showing me videos on his phone of him like drifting it the night before the party on Wednesday. These are gonna have a choice of engines. You're gonna be able to do an air cooled flat six, a water cooled flat six. There's Richard Tuttle driving it. Look, those screens. Look at the passenger co driver screen code.

[Zach]

Driver screen has quite a gearbox handle. I mean, if people go to his Instagram and turn the sound on Charlie Tom. Like this thing's hauling ass.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach]

So definitely not a concept car.

[Matt Farah]

It's like a rally race carried onto something. This is Carmel Valley Road. He's mobbing. And those doors come off. Those glass doors come off entirely. So you can get an air cooled engine, a water cooled engine or the 911k engine.

[Zach]

If you buy this car, if anyone listening buys this car, you have to drive it in the dirt and play with it. That's what it's for. That's what Richard does with his cars. Well, they're doing don't just show pony this show and drive it to cars and coffee and register it in Montana like that. This almost stuff like this, not this car, but like the existence of safari things that cost a ton of money and don't get driven bothers me almost more than the special edition hypercar stuff that I Sure. I think this is more offensive to me.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. They're doing a spec series with these for racing.

[Zach]

Right. And they're gonna run this in Baja.

[Matt Farah]

And I class in Baja.

[Zach]

20 cars in total. Shout out to them like he organizes rally events. They organize the snow rally stuff with his cars. I mean, he is a legit driver person. I just hope the customers do that too.

[Matt Farah]

Do you know what else he said, my friend? He said if we go to England, we can drive this.

[Zach]

We should go to England.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach]

You hear that, Doug? I'm coming to London.

[Matt Farah]

We got to make some rounds in England. You know, let's go to a few from the people. Pebble was awesome. I have. I had a lot more things on my list. We'll get to it. I don't want to talk too much about towing with the Bentley because I'm doing a story with it for road and track. But long story short, towing with a Bentley went great. Everybody should just tow with Bentleys. That's all. That's the consumer advice. Of the day. Totally relatable. Everyone should tow with Bentleys. Oh, and last thing about Pebble. I gotta give a little shout out to my new friend Edwin Castro. Do you know that name? He won the Powerball. He won 2 billion Powerball.

[Zach]

And then I've heard of.

[Matt Farah]

And then he just started buying Porsches.

[Zach]

Yeah, he bought everything, right?

[Matt Farah]

He bought a lot of stuff. I hung out with him at the Quail. I didn't know who he was. Sat there talking to him. He was a fan. Introduced him to. Introduced by Temarion by John and talking to him for a minute and then. Oh, by the way, this is. Oh, cool man. You know, he is fucking one of us. This guy is down, he's cool as fuck.

[Zach]

Wait, is he different? Didn't you meet a guy on a rally that had won?

[Matt Farah]

That's a different guy.

[Zach]

Oh, okay.

[Matt Farah]

That's a different guy. I don't even wanna say his name. But that guy won 880 million.

[Zach]

He said he's very nice also.

[Matt Farah]

OK, 23 years old. Edwin Castro's a little older. I think he's in his mid-30s. He still won an enormous amount of money. But his. He's got cool taste in stuff. He is a fan of the show and he lives in la. He wants to hang out and he's mellow. He was really, really fun.

[Zach]

Mr. Castro, when you buy your LFG from Tuttle, make sure you drive the shit out of it.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Because you are the target customer.

[Matt Farah]

That dude cool? That dude was actually. He was pretty cool. I hope that I would act like that If I got 2 billion in Powerball. Yeah, he's doing. He's doing it all right.

[Zach]

Nice.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. So anyway, pebble car week was. Was pretty intense. It was. There was some highlights, there was a. I don't want to say low lights, but there was just it there. The. The transition away from vintage cars and to hyper cars and boutique new sports cars and things like that is happening pretty rapidly. The auction prices reflect it. The kind of stuff you see driving around reflects it. The cars have much, much newer. And it's not necessarily a bad thing. It just is. It just is what it is. But I still like going. It's still fun. Getting to show a car is very, very cool. That's a new. A new twist on a way to do it. Getting a house is definitely the way to do it. That's the jam. But let's do a few questions from the people next. Our next show will have a lot more questions but pebble was a Big of things. So obviously we wanted to cover it. But we'll do a few. Of course. If you want to ask us questions for the podcast, if you want to get the podcast early, if you want to get the podcast without ads, if you want to get exclusive early access to merch and collabs, if you want to support your favorite podcasters, patreon.com thesmokingtirepodcast is where you do it and we'll do a few of these questions. One from two lane back. Show daily a cybertruck for a month or drive a Model T cross country.

[Zach]

Model T cross country.

[Matt Farah]

Model T cross country.

[Zach]

That's a story.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, that's a story.

[Zach]

Fifty story.

[Matt Farah]

It's an adventure. Yeah, that's true. We were just talking about this with Spike and Jerry at the thing. He was saying the famous Leno quote that said like, you know, if you put me in a fucking cryo thing and I went to sleep for a hundred years and woke up and there was an electric car and a steam car. You know, I would take the steam car because I at least know what. No, no, I can get somewhere with that. I don't necessarily agree with it to that degree, but that was the vibe. But I would rather go Model T cross country, assuming there was someone with me who knew how to fix it. Just the Tiptronic. Good name. Given all the free stuff to do for car week, is attending the Quail worth the fifteen hundred dollar tick? Obviously that depends on one's financial situation, but curious if you have any thoughts. I wouldn't pay $1,500 to go to the Quail. I would not.

[Zach]

I wouldn't either. I wouldn't stretch to pay that. I mean there are people there that, that's no problem for them. Fine. But if this is like, oh, you know, it's this or three tickets to Taylor Swift for three friends. Because those are expensive.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach]

I think the fact I saw so many of the cars that were at Quail parked around Carmel, like the whole Pagani display was literally on. We walked past. Yeah, you can see a lot of these cars around and you can get plenty of value from car week without having to pay the money to then go stand around them on a stage.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, you know, there's Quail is cool. Like, don't get me wrong, it is. I, I just, it's. People ask me about ticket prices all the time and I'm very spoiled because we get access for work and we don't have to pay for ticket prices. Would I pay retail to go something like that. Probably not. Probably wouldn't. That's a crazy amount of money to go to a event.

[Zach]

But we have a friend of ours, paid retail and he had a great time.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Another friend of mine from college, his friend paid for his ticket and they had a great time. Like for the people that can totally afford it, they quail puts on an amazing event. The cars are rad. The food and drink and everything there is like, I mean, it is a magical bubble land.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach]

You know, the food is on the level.

[Matt Farah]

The food and drink are on the level of like a medium high end wedding.

[Zach]

Yep.

[Matt Farah]

Which is pretty good for a car show.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

And it's all included. You don't have to spend any money once you're in the door.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

And you know, if you're pretty committed, you could take advantage of that. I spend most of the time talking to people and not. I don't think I ate hardly anything.

[Zach]

I ate once.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

I didn't see friends.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. I actually, you know, that whole week because I didn't work out. We just, we walked around a lot, but I didn't work out. I only ate two meals a day the whole week. I fully ate 30% less food because I wasn't working out, which is, I think how bodies are supposed to work. Five liter of cola. A 50 liter of cola. That's pretty good. What's your best example of don't meet your car heroes? For me it was a Cobra. I'm six five with 14 shoe size. 14 shoes? Yeah. Yeah. Cobras aren't for everybody. I mean, the obvious One is the DeLorean. Even though the car wasn't that disappointing, it just isn't great for la.

[Zach]

It's not a hero car. But I thought the Dark Horse was going to be amazing because the GT350 was amazing. The Mach one was amazing. The 500 was awesome for what it is. And I just went, oh, it's just more Mustang with more engineering. Great. And then it was like, the steering was weird and it felt too big and it was like the screens were bad and I just. It was definitely the lesser Mustang, even though it cost more than all the ones I mentioned.

[Matt Farah]

I think there's car, like, I think a lot of very pretty GT cars like GT cars and luxury cars often like, look cool and are, you know, comfortable and have nice leather and whatever, but are not particularly interesting to drive. A lot of times, you know, sometimes.

[Zach]

They lack a sharpness that you associate with the brand. Like, yeah, the 550. Ferrari.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach]

You think Ferrari, you think race car. Da da, da, da. And then you drive their GT car, which. And it's doing its job.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach]

But it will lack some of the things that you might associate with that brand.

[Matt Farah]

Sure, yeah. Yeah. Granny shifted. Not double clutching like you should. The McLaren S1 at the Quail reminded me of a previous thought I had. Why don't manufacturers bring back classic car designs with modern powertrains? For example, a G80 M3 with an E46 M3 body. I mean, I don't know if, if old bodies will meet current regulations for.

[Zach]

One, or the engines might not fit for two. Packaging is a big thing.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, they. I mean, the BMW told us they couldn't make the fucking beaver teeth any smaller because it wouldn't work with the cooling. Right. Well, it certainly won't work with an E46 nose. I mean, Ford is like approved revology for doing those Mustangs. So it's like there's another company doing it, but it's got the blessing of Ford. So that's things. There's recreations and continuations of a variety of cars. It's just not from manufacturers. If a manufacturer. I mean, I don't know if a manufacturer can sell cars in mass and then also sell one model as ultra low volume.

[Zach]

Ooh, that's a good question.

[Matt Farah]

I think your whole. No, because Morgan said. Yeah, the guy from Morgan. John from Morgan told me your whole company, if you're ultra low volume, which Morgan is considered in the U.S. it's like 375 cars across the entire company in America. So if you're a company like BMW, that's a bigger company than that. You can't build a niche product like that for ultra low volume volume. Yeah, got it. So that's why it's third party. Because they're restorations on an individual level. Yeah. Last one and then it's time I get some dinner. Ted Stryker says, I've noticed that my hometown has added a Mach E to their police force, which got me thinking, what cars would make the best police cars that aren't widely used. I mean, that aren't widely used.

[Zach]

How do we define and how do we define best? I mean, because these departments, there's auditions for their. They literally all the OEMs show up and they go, our car can do this and withstand that and the maintenance is this. And they all campaign to get chosen. Yeah, but like, what's up, by the.

[Matt Farah]

Way, that Cadillac concept, quick worst in.

[Zach]

Show is goes to the Monterey SWAT Department. Oh, yeah, a giant lifted like MRAP machine that did nothing except spend book money on that machine.

[Matt Farah]

There was one my worst in show with the Quail, aside from the. Yes. SWAT team, was a Lamborghini Revuelto that had the person's Instagram handle on it on three different places. You shouldn't be. You should not be allowed to show your car at the Quail if it has an Instagram handle on it. You shouldn't.

[Zach]

Is that our generation's version though, of putting the poster in front of your car that says this is my Corvette either.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, that's a real Baja Cantina vibe, dude.

[Zach]

I like Ba G, man. You see a bunch of great there.

[Matt Farah]

I like Baja Cantina too. It's just a shit show.

[Zach]

Yeah, that's true. But there was like a Ford GT and then there's a rad hot rod and there's a super old Ferrari and everyone's just hanging out getting it top. Yeah, yeah.

[Matt Farah]

I mean, that's. It's all right.

[Zach]

That used to be one of the cool free events.

[Matt Farah]

It was Wednesday night. It kind of is. It's just like, you just. You need to like park somewhere else or so it's just getting in and out of that place.

[Zach]

Yeah, true.

[Matt Farah]

What other car would be a good. I mean the. A good police car? Priuses. Dude. They should all be driving Priuses. Every cop should be driving Prius. We need to emasculate.

[Zach]

That's a good idea, actually. Yeah. Ev. Calms them down.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, I don't, I don't want. I don't want them to have paramilitary.

[Zach]

I don't either.

[Matt Farah]

Imagine this is a good idea.

[Zach]

Yeah, I support that.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach]

And because a lot of states are banning police chases now, you don't need to be able to hit people. So yeah, kind of works.

[Matt Farah]

That's our show. Thanks for listening, Everybody. Of course. Patreon.com the Smoking Tire podcast is where you get all of the things. You can get the show without ads. You can get the show ahead of time. You can get the show. You get it. You've heard the thing. Also, last but certainly not least, shout out to our friend. Larry Chen sent us his new book, Life at Shutter Speed. It is a beautiful coffee table book from Carrera Books and it comes in this case. It is a really nice paper, really beautiful prints. There is quite a few. Ooh, it even smells like a good book. There's quite a few photos of my cars in here and man, there's just thousands of images in this book and you should check it out. For yourself. If there's a car person in your life that could use a gift for their home, I do recommend that Larry will be on the show in a couple of weeks to talk about it. Anything else, Zach?

[Zach]

Nope.

[Matt Farah]

All right, See you next time. Bye.