750S COTA Laps; Ten Tenths Club; New Wheels; and Tariffs

Summary

The Smoking Tire Podcast - Episode Summary

Episode: 750S COTA Laps; Ten Tenths Club; New Wheels; and Tariffs
Release Date: April 17, 2025
Hosts: Matt Farah and Zach Klapman

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1. Introduction to Episode

The episode kicks off with Matt Farah and Zach Klapman gearing up to discuss a variety of automotive topics, ranging from the impact of new tariffs on the automotive industry to their recent experiences at a new racetrack and updates on Matt's Porsche Taycan.

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2. Tariffs and the Automotive Industry

A significant portion of the discussion centers on the newly imposed 25% tariffs on imported vehicles and parts, a topic that Matt initially hesitates to dive into due to its rapidly evolving nature.

• Matt Farah [01:11]: "With tariffs today, every single day, it's a new fucking thing. And so this show could age incredibly poorly if we talk about tariffs today."

Zach explains how these tariffs are affecting both luxury and mainstream car brands differently. Luxury brands like Audi, Volkswagen, Jaguar Land Rover (JLR), and Lotus are halting shipments, which Matt humorously notes serves as "air cover for low sales."

• Zach Klapman [04:24]: "Volvo has announced they are removing the S90 from the lineup... which is built in China and as of right now, the tariff is 125%."

Matt and Zach delve into how these tariffs disrupt the global supply chain, making even domestically branded cars like Honda CRVs more expensive due to their reliance on imported parts.

• Matt Farah [05:30]: "It's almost like there's a global supplier pipeline that has been built up over decades."

The hosts express concerns over the long-term sustainability of these tariffs, highlighting the complexity of shifting manufacturing processes established over decades.

• Matt Farah [07:09]: "That disproportionately affects people who can pay less."

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3. Trip to the Ten Tenths Club Racetrack in Charlotte

Matt and Zach recount their visit to the newly opened Ten Tenths Club racetrack in Charlotte, North Carolina, next to the renowned Charlotte Motor Speedway. They describe the track's design, reminiscent of Germany's Bilsterberg, and the vibrant atmosphere filled with parties and Trans Am races.

• Matt Farah [21:35]: "We went to the opening of a brand new racetrack and it was a fucking good time."

They highlight specific moments from the event, including observing vintage Trans Am cars in action and enjoying the scenic layout of the track.

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4. Porsche Taycan Updates

Matt provides updates on his Porsche Taycan, focusing on software issues and subsequent dealer visits.

• Matt Farah [44:44]: "I had a major software update at the dealer to hopefully address the ADAs that were fucking up."

Despite receiving a software update, Matt notes new issues arising post-update, such as the inability to perform side-by-side GPS functions.

• Matt Farah [45:34]: "The software Lord giveth and the software Lord taketh away."

Additional maintenance includes replacing weather stripping to eliminate window squeaks and addressing cabin filter issues caused by nearby fires.

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5. McLaren 750 Spyder Laps at Circuit of the Americas (COTA)

The hosts discuss Matt's exhilarating experience driving laps in a McLaren 750 Spyder at COTA. Matt describes the car's responsiveness and handling, despite some initial surprises with overinflated tires.

• Matt Farah [34:34]: "I drove 50 laps of COTA in a McLaren 750, which is so responsive that you can intentionally overdrive it the whole way around the track."

Zach appreciates the car's engineering, noting its lightweight and powerful performance, while Matt reflects on the importance of proper tire pressure for optimal handling.

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6. A Movie That Made Matt Cry

Matt shares his emotional experience watching an animated movie about a cat, praising its storytelling and emotional depth.

• Matt Farah [41:33]: "It's unbelievably beautiful, and I cried for almost the entire movie."

He emphasizes the film’s unique approach, using realistic animal depictions without dialogue to convey profound emotions.

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7. Wheels and Performance with HRE Wheels

A detailed discussion ensues about Matt's recent upgrade to HRE wheels, highlighting the benefits and trade-offs.

• Matt Farah [48:37]: "HRE's new FMRX wheels look like three-piece wheels but are forged two-piece wheels, offering greater strength and performance."

Matt explains the efficiency gains and slight handling changes due to lower rolling resistance and unsprung weight, balancing aesthetics with functionality.

• Matt Farah [53:25]: "It's a price to pay for looking extremely fly."

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8. Tesla Odometer Lawsuit

Zach brings up a lawsuit filed by Nyeree Hinton against Tesla, alleging that the company's odometer system overestimates mileage by as much as 117%, particularly as vehicles near warranty expiration.

• Zach Klapman [57:12]: "The lawsuit alleges that Tesla is using this technology instead of mechanical or electrical systems that faithfully record miles traveled in order to shorten warranties based on miles driven in the cars."

Matt critiques Tesla's approach to software regulation and the potential for fraudulent practices, underscoring the importance of accurate vehicle metrics.

• Matt Farah [60:02]: "There is no law regulating odometer accuracy. However, the Federal Odometer Act forbids tampering with vehicle mileage."

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9. Listener Questions and Recommendations

The hosts address listener-submitted questions, offering tips and sharing personal preferences regarding daily drivers and car modifications.

• Matt Farah [75:00]: "I recommend putting a license plate sponge behind the license plate to prevent rattling."

They also discuss the challenges and best practices in modifying daily drivers versus maintaining specialized vehicles.

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10. Conclusion

Wrapping up the episode, Matt and Zach reflect on the breadth of topics covered, from industry-wide tariff impacts to personal automotive experiences. They encourage listeners to engage via Patreon for more current updates and tease upcoming content focused on listener questions.

• Matt Farah [81:58]: "Thank you, everybody. What a delightful 90 minutes of radio that was."

The episode concludes with light-hearted banter and acknowledgments, maintaining the show's signature blend of humor and insightful automotive commentary.

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Notable Quotes:

• Zach Klapman [04:24]: "Volvo has announced they are removing the S90 from the lineup... which is built in China and as of right now, the tariff is 125%."
• Matt Farah [53:25]: "It's a price to pay for looking extremely fly."
• Zach Klapman [57:12]: "The lawsuit alleges that Tesla is using this technology instead of mechanical or electrical systems that faithfully record miles traveled in order to shorten warranties based on miles driven in the cars."

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This episode of The Smoking Tire provides a deep dive into pressing automotive industry issues, coupled with personal anecdotes and expert insights, making it a must-listen for enthusiasts seeking both information and entertainment.

Transcript

[Matt Farah]

I have one page left.

[Zach Klapman]

My notebook in your granite paper, my red stone paper. One page.

[Matt Farah]

So it's three writing pages or one leaf. That's the end. Very excited to move on to a new notebook.

[Zach Klapman]

This is like when I told you about the terrace.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. You're like, he talks about notebooks. And I want to myself, yeah.

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[Matt Farah]

All right. On this cruise show, Zach and I recount our trip to a racetrack opening in North Carolina. Plus, I hit the track at the Circuit of the Americas in a McLaren 750. I have a variety of updates on my cheap used Porsche Taycan. A movie made me cry for 90 minutes. And we have some excellent news about the tariffs in this country. It's the Smoking Tire Podcast, right? And when I walked in today, you were like, do you want to talk about tariffs? And all I can tell you about. Because I read the news. A lot of it I see, I watch whole entire shows, like, long form shit on tariffs, but, like, every single day, it's a new fucking thing. And so this show could age incredibly poorly if we talk about tariffs today. On Wednesday, the fucking.

[Zach Klapman]

Is it the 16th, 16th.

[Matt Farah]

16Th dates don't matter to me. But anyway, point being, you seemed like you really wanted to talk about tariffs. So, like, you seem. Are you educated about this? And that's why you wanted to talk about it? I hope you didn't want to get anything out of me. I got. I got a whole list of shit on here. I got like 16 things to talk about because we haven't done a cruise show in two fucking weeks.

[Zach Klapman]

We can talk about that stuff too.

[Matt Farah]

Well, it's fine, but, like, you're. You were ready to go. How often do you do? I walk in the door and you're like, I'd like to Talk about. And it's some big, like, important international topic.

[Zach Klapman]

I mean, never. It was something we had mentioned that we both needed to read up on.

[Matt Farah]

Listen, I defer to the gentleman from Santa Cruz, as so many do when.

[Zach Klapman]

It'S time to talk about international trade.

[Matt Farah]

Your broner.

[Zach Klapman]

All right, well, I'll try to keep it concise.

[Matt Farah]

Welcome to the Smoking Tire podcast. Light your joint now.

[Zach Klapman]

Yes, light your joint now. Or close your shades and put on your tinfoil hat. We're talking about it now because every day there's an announcement that it might change, and that's very annoying. But there's updates as of yesterday, which is April 15th. So this is April 16th. This show goes up tomorrow, the 17th. Hopefully it's current. Do I have double?

[Matt Farah]

I think it'll be current for, like, at least six hours.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Be current for the Patreon. It's another reason to drive the Patreon because it's current as of the live recording, which you get as a patron.

[Zach Klapman]

That is true.

[Matt Farah]

So the patrons have more accurate news from the Smoking Tire than everybody else. Just by that nature.

[Zach Klapman]

If you're a pit crew patron or above, right now, you could be getting current news, but tomorrow, who knows? Very true. All right. Okay. So as of 4:15, April 15, there are 25% tariffs on vehicles that are going to be imported here and tariffs on parts, which includes engines and transmissions. That's bad because even though companies like Ford and actually Honda and a bunch of others assemble a bunch of their cars here, huge percentages in some cases, a lot of their parts get shipped over from other places. Mexico, Canada, et cetera. So that will still raise the cost of those cars.

[Matt Farah]

It's almost like there's a global supplier pipeline that has been built up over decades. Yes, it's almost like that. Yeah. Okay.

[Zach Klapman]

And some of the big stories were like, luxury brands, you know, Audi, Volkswagen are halting their shipments. JLR is halting shipments. All right. Some people out there might go, who cares about people's Land Rovers?

[Matt Farah]

It's great air cover for low sales.

[Zach Klapman]

It is good cover for that. Although Hyundai had their second best month ever last March in the company's history. They sold more cars last month than ever before.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. How about jlr?

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah. Probably not great. Lotus also has halted sales insurance.

[Matt Farah]

Jaguar halted before the tariffs.

[Zach Klapman]

Jaguar halted.

[Matt Farah]

Like there were. There was no tariffs. And Jaguar was like, sit out.

[Zach Klapman]

Like, imagine how long Doug would have had to wait for a door if the tariffs had happened. It took him a year to find a door anyway.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

Okay, so Cox Automotive Research, who also owns like Kelley Blue Book and stuff, they said that these tariffs will affect 80% of all vehicles under $30,000. So this is not just, you know, rich people cars, obviously, it's like Civics, Corollas, some of which are made here. Honda crv. A lot of those cars are made here or are from domestic brands, but they're made, again, global supply chain, made in other places, shipped in. Like this is going to be.

[Matt Farah]

Well, like any tax, it affects the people who can least afford to pay an increase. Right? It will affect everyone. Yeah. If a fucking Maybach gets 25% more like, dude, how much more expensive did the GT3 get from 2024 to 2025 before the tariffs?

[Zach Klapman]

Right.

[Matt Farah]

Is that stopping anybody from wanting a GT3? Absolutely not.

[Zach Klapman]

Well, Ferrari is going to eat the 10% increase cost, but only on three models. The 296, the SF90 and the Roma. They're like, we're going to eat that cost not on the Purosangue up till May 1, but Purosangue, the F80 and the other one. They're like, this will. This cost will be. Price will be increased.

[Matt Farah]

Right? Well, they'll. They'll find other ways.

[Zach Klapman]

I mean, Ferrari, that's the thing is Ferrari owners, if you want a Pro Sangue and it goes up 10%, which is a big chunk of money, like, you're probably okay with that. But if you are buying the Corolla and it goes.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah, 30 or whatever, like, that really hurt.

[Matt Farah]

That's why, like, you know, the people that want to get rid of income tax and replace it with a type of. With any type of sales tax or tariff, that would disproportionately affect the people. If everyone has to pay the same amount of sales tax.

[Zach Klapman]

Right.

[Matt Farah]

That disproportionately affects people who can pay less. Right? But yeah, well, that's all fucked great.

[Zach Klapman]

I mean, what's interesting is in all my reading from, I read, like responses from almost every company and they're all a little different, which is interesting to see. Like, Ford announced a marketing campaign called Made in. Like, Made in America for America. So they're keeping their pricing. They're actually giving everyone employee pricing for a few months. They're giving. And so. And Dodge followed suit, but other people, like Honda makes 65% of the cars that are sold here are built here. And they were not nearly as enthusiastic about this. Like, they had a very measured response.

[Matt Farah]

I bet Honda's.

[Zach Klapman]

I Understand why we're gonna try to move more production here, but understand that we've built this supply chain over 40 years and to change this in this quick manner is upsetting.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, paraphrasing. And it's also like, there's also, they tout these like real big wins about like Nvidia building a data center, some supercomputers, AI data center in America. That's like, you're talking about like a, like a five year long project that there's like all kinds of ways for them to, you know, walk that back once the effect of the suck up wears off. You know what I mean? Yeah. You kiss the fucking emperor's ring, you get your headline, you get your public suck up and if it like doesn't happens later, like there's no, there's no.

[Zach Klapman]

Follow up to that. And that's the most confusing thing about this on the auto industry is like if you build cars here already like Honda does, they can just say, all right, we need, we're going to have. The GMC is a good example. GMC and Chevy are just going to build more small trucks. They're increasing the production of small trucks, but their full size trucks are built outside the country. So they're just I guess hoping people decide that smaller trucks are better finally.

[Matt Farah]

Which is GMC's full size trucks built.

[Zach Klapman]

Canada probably in Canada and Mexico and you know, so for a company to try to move your truck.

[Matt Farah]

How do truck people feel about a Mexican built truck?

[Zach Klapman]

I don't think they know about it. Yeah, most of them.

[Matt Farah]

That would be weird.

[Zach Klapman]

I mean look, cars are built all over the fucking place and shipped back.

[Matt Farah]

I've had cars built that was built in some weird ass places.

[Zach Klapman]

You know where the M2 is built? Mexico.

[Matt Farah]

So I think my Mach E was built in Mexico. Yeah, Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

I think a lot of focus has a big.

[Matt Farah]

No, my Focus RS was built in Germany, but other Focuses are built in Mexico. Mexico.

[Zach Klapman]

Is the ST built in.

[Matt Farah]

I think the ST is Mexico.

[Zach Klapman]

Mexico. Yeah, there's a lot, there's a lot of cars coming from Mexico and Canada. Not, let's not even include stuff across the Atlantic or Pacific. And those are technically imported, whether they come across by truck or by boat.

[Matt Farah]

And for the record, I don't give a shit where my car is built as long as it's good.

[Zach Klapman]

Right? I totally agree.

[Matt Farah]

Truck people seem to care about those types of things for reasons that are a little more obvious in proportion.

[Zach Klapman]

So two interesting things. Volvo has announced they are removing the S90 from the lineup. After this year because it's built in China and as of right now, the tariff is 125%.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. I mean, aren't all Polestars made in China? Yeah, that's going to be fun for them.

[Zach Klapman]

I mean, imagine doubling the cost of your Volvo sedan. Yeah, that's wild.

[Matt Farah]

Too bad for the S90 though. But not the V90. The V90, I believe, is built in Sweden. A person who I know made an extremely huge deal about that in their review.

[Zach Klapman]

Really?

[Matt Farah]

Yes.

[Zach Klapman]

Okay.

[Matt Farah]

And the differences in the quality between.

[Zach Klapman]

The two, I mean, that would be an interesting side by side S90 and V90.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

And see if they're assembled differently or feel different.

[Matt Farah]

According to this person, there's differences, but let's just say this person is not always the least biased in things of this nature when comparing nationalities.

[Zach Klapman]

Oh. Oh boy. I'm just, I can't wait to ask who this is after we stop recording.

[Matt Farah]

Wow. Just saying. Take your guesses in the comments.

[Zach Klapman]

Welcome to Stephen Miller's YouTube channel.

[Matt Farah]

Do not take your guesses in the comments. It's not someone of consequence.

[Zach Klapman]

And then the last little thing is that According to Reuters, 40 to 80% of US made cars use imported parts and those parts add up to 20 to 40% of your MSRP.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, sure.

[Zach Klapman]

It's not just where your steel is printed or whatever, you know, the assembly like. So even if the car is quote, made here.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

It could still go up by 25, 30% because a bunch of the parts come from somewhere else.

[Matt Farah]

If one were to try to make some sort of a good faith argument about this, of which there are very few, you could say that they're trying to bring in more suppliers. Business, like they have final assembly here and design and engineering here, but the suppliers are all somewhere else. So I don't know, I just, I feel like, I feel like their idea of like jobs is like people putting parts together. Not like, you know, real like good brain power type jobs.

[Zach Klapman]

Wait, what? Where?

[Matt Farah]

I just, I feel like the stated goal of these tariffs, which I don't even really like, I mean, I don't think it'll achieve that goal either. But just on the surface, the type of jobs that they're saying need to come back are like these like factory jobs.

[Zach Klapman]

Great.

[Matt Farah]

As opposed to what I maybe callously referred to as brain power jobs.

[Zach Klapman]

You're not wrong though. There was a statistic I heard this morning where there's actually a. There's like 7 million manufacturing jobs currently open right now.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

And when. And when they've done polls in the last couple weeks, and they've asked people, do you think manufacturing should come back to the United States? 80% say yes. And then they ask them, do you want to work in those manufacturing? And they say, and only 20% say yes.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, I do. I want other people to work in factory jobs. That is exactly the same of, do you want there to be more housing? Yes. Do you want it to be near where you live? No. It's the same fucking shit over and over.

[Zach Klapman]

And obviously it depends on the pay and all these other things. But when people answer the question, the percentage that said, I don't want to work in a factory is 80% of people pulled.

[Matt Farah]

Who will work in it? Immigrants will, but we're going to get rid of them. So bye.

[Zach Klapman]

I mean, as with everything, it's a very complicated system that has become incredibly complicated over many, many decades. And this quick change, like, imagine if you're an automaker and let's say you start making a factory today because these tariffs are crazy. All right, well, when his term ends, assuming he leaves office, if the new president comes in and goes, hey, we're going back to the old way without the tariffs, did you just start building a factory that now you have to abandon? Like, that's a huge amount of money sunk into it. So everyone is just, like, waiting by the phone hoping that this gets changed tomorrow.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. My assumption would be to try to run a predictive model of what a person might do if they wanted to run repeated pump and dump scams on the entire US Economy and act that way. You're not gonna be too far off just based on what's happened so far. We had the Trump coin pump and dump, some insiders made some enormous money, and then we have the tariff pump and dump. And, like, you know, seven people, like, $20 billion, and everybody else lost. Just act. Everyone who made money seems to be really tight friends with Trump, who is actually able to control the economy and has been given immunity from crime.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

And if he didn't have that, he would almost certainly be in prison or at least prohibited from running for office ever again. If they got to that before, he would. So, like, what would you do? Just. They just act as if this person is going to be running scams for his and his friend's personal gain.

[Zach Klapman]

Right. But the problem is, if you try to, you know, be proactive on that in some way, you might be wrong, because things could change tomorrow. You know, I think. I think he noticed how big a problem this was gonna have or. He probably got 8,000 phone calls from auto lobbyists. So that's why he announced we might actually change these terms to give them more time.

[Matt Farah]

But yeah, he said people were getting the yips. Was the exact.

[Zach Klapman]

He said that was the market last week. And then yesterday he said that the auto industry moves a little slower and needs a little more time to adjust. Like, yeah, no shit. But. So that's the market minute.

[Matt Farah]

He's really learning. He's learning new facts at 78.

[Zach Klapman]

Hey, you know what? That's impressive. A lot of people don't.

[Matt Farah]

It's not like there's an auto industry guy he could ask, right?

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah, he asked the uadm.

[Matt Farah]

Hey, look, I said something. I gave Elon Musk credit for something. He could probably tell Donald Trump how long it takes to pivot a car factory. He probably has that information. Like, he could. He could give a real honest for once answer about a question. Hey, how long does it take to pivot a car factory? 10 fucking years. Mr. President.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah. Are they still building? Oh, that's the gigafactory going up in Texas.

[Matt Farah]

I believe so.

[Zach Klapman]

Tesla one. Okay. Yeah, that's different.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. I'm sure the audience loves this. Can we move on?

[Zach Klapman]

Sure.

[Matt Farah]

Do you have more? No, I'm angry now.

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[Zach Klapman]

That's it.

[Matt Farah]

I have some like fun things to talk about on my list. And now I'm angry. I got rims today and I'm angry. You could be angry on a day you get rims.

[Zach Klapman]

You can provide the dessert after the dinner.

[Matt Farah]

Jesus Christ.

[Zach Klapman]

Go ahead, we can talk. I don't listen.

[Matt Farah]

Well, my list includes thing we've done together. We went to the opening of a new racetrack.

[Zach Klapman]

We haven't talked about that yet. Oh my God. Holy shit.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, we went to the opening of a brand new racetrack and it was a fucking good time. You get to scroll back far as fuck. Probably not, because I know not really.

[Zach Klapman]

There you go.

[Matt Farah]

One row. Because I've really not been posting on Instagram because it's better to not do that. But yeah. 1010 Motor Club in Charlotte. Right next to Charlotte Motor Speedway. Invited out by the owners, the founders, the Smith family. Beautiful flowing roller coaster of a racetrack.

[Zach Klapman]

Good elevation.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Reminds me a little bit of Bilsterberg in Germany where we did a little testing back in the day. Really beautiful tarmac. And there was a concourse, there was parties, there was a Trans Am race.

[Zach Klapman]

It was a good time to those Trans Am cars. God, if I could race anything, that would be it.

[Matt Farah]

I think you, I mean, I think.

[Zach Klapman]

You probably could maybe. I don't know who we watched that race.

[Matt Farah]

Some of Those people in 12, 15 cars in the race, four or five of them knew what they were really, really doing. And everyone else was like dentists, which is how vintage racing is all vintage racing, no disrespect to Trans Am, was still awesome to watch and hear.

[Zach Klapman]

But like you saw, we saw some interesting hand positions as they applied. There were some samurai swords. Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

The photo that I have of the two cars from the track elevated of the Mustangs. Yeah. So from this vantage point, this is like the lawn. It's like this beautiful landscaped deck off the back of the clubhouse. And you have this fabulous view of a sweeping turn one at the track. And you can really see drivers hand and feet positions from here as they are sort of downshifting and steering into turn one. And some people did the old put your knuckles to get like hands together, like create one long cylinder with your hands that's touching while steering into this corridor. And I was like yowza. Other people were like really hauling ass. Other people were really hauling ass.

[Zach Klapman]

I mean everyone was having a really good time.

[Matt Farah]

In fact, these two particular, I think these were at some at one point the 65 Mustang notchback. And then what looks like a maybe a 70 boss 302. They were in the lead fighting for the lead at one point, which is why I took this photo.

[Zach Klapman]

They were awesome. They have so much lean and squish on the sidewall that my wife was like, are they drifting these corners? Like no, that's just lean.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, there's a little bit of oversteer but there was.

[Zach Klapman]

But when she was asking it was this corner and it was just lean. A lot of movement.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Big corrections. And Zach and I got to run a few laps in a brand new.

[Zach Klapman]

RUF scr because Mr. Smith is like the nicest, most trusting person in the world.

[Matt Farah]

Had 133 miles on it just. And actually a sidebar treat. I don't know if you were standing there when it happened but after we or right before we went on the track, the like state, some type of law enforcement agent came to do the VIN verification for a North Carolina registration on it. Fully approved and stamped the form. So we literally watched it be allowed to be registered on the road in North Carolina, which is very, very cool for a very low volume car like this. So that's rad.

[Zach Klapman]

It's very rad the way this is just a stunning car. I know we've been around them already but man, every time like it just feels so special. It looks so well put together.

[Matt Farah]

This one was a little different. This is the SCR, not the CTR. So the CTR is the twin turbo, up to 750 horsepower depending on the knob.

[Zach Klapman]

Still carbon tub here though.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, yeah, no, everything's the same except this one is naturally aspirated. So it's a 4 liter 515 horsepower. But it's not Porsche's 4 liter 515 horsepower. It's not the GT3 engine or any variant of it. It's a Metzger engine. To go back to the 996 and 997 turbo and GT3 Metzger engine, but punched out to 4 liters with roof everything else. So it's a roof engine based on Porsche architecture from like 20 years ago. But the engine that's, like, known for being the strongest engine they ever made.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah. And this engine was a honey pot. It was amazing. It revved so well. It sounded incredible. I mean, downshifting, like the flywheel, super light, everything. I got like three corners away from it. And you know, no offense, Alois. I mean, you sell both of them. I was like, oh, I'd get the na. Immediately, Immediately. And the one we drove in Miami was so fast and fun, but this was fast enough. The car's light, of course.

[Matt Farah]

It's like 2500, 2600 pounds and 500 horsepower. Who is that not enough for? That's a fast car. And of course, all the controls are very light because the car is very light. And it doesn't need very wide tires either. It's got relatively narrow tires. And, you know, this is like a brand new car. So I was only willing and on track. We had never driven. So we have a little video. It's pretty low rent because we just had a very limited amount of time to get a little taste, but we wanted to share it with you guys. So the video is pretty rough. Also, we didn't like the car had just shown up and we didn't prep it or anything. We just got in it and went on the track. And as it turns out, the tires were over inflated by quite a bit.

[Zach Klapman]

Felt significant.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, the rears were over inflated by quite a bit. And I'm not really sure how that happened, but it made the car quite tail happy in a way that it probably wasn't designed to be.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah, well, we drove the other car, which I think was less tail happy than this one, and that car was on all seasons, and it was 100 degrees out in July. Those things should have been slick like jam. And they were.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. And you could make that slide, but you'd have to tell it to.

[Zach Klapman]

You have to tell it to.

[Matt Farah]

This one wanted to do it on its own, which I don't think is how it was probably designed based on.

[Zach Klapman]

The other roof cars we've driven. I do not think it was intentional.

[Matt Farah]

No. They said the tires were high.

[Zach Klapman]

They did. Yeah, they checked.

[Matt Farah]

They were. But we don't. We don't know that in the video.

[Zach Klapman]

So I was like, oh, my God, am I about to, you know, have to give away all my kidneys in this moment? Because it was a surprise.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, it's More just like million dollars plus brand new car. Don't, don't, don't fuck this one up. But the track itself was a really good time. And actually on this track in particular, which it doesn't have, it only has one very long straight. It's 1.9 miles in these club tracks, even the very high quality ones. 700, 800 horsepower. Makes absolutely no sense. That's a road America horsepower. That's not club track horsepower. Club track horsepower. 500 is the upper limit of what you need for anything there. There's just not a long enough straightaway to make any kind of a real difference.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

But the cars are so nicely made.

[Zach Klapman]

Really, really, really, really good.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

Every time I sit in one, I'm like, how do I make this happen?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, that was a nice thing. So thank you to the Smith family for inviting us out. And if you're in Charlotte and you are like, man, we should have like an awesome road course in this city. You do. Now, this one is real cool. And it's right next to Charlotte Motor Speedway. That Cobra with the. I don't like luggage racks on sp. Well documented. But if you're talking about a period car and it's got the luggage on it and it seemed like that person actually drove that car from somewhere. Yeah. Then I can kind of get, as an aesthetic.

[Zach Klapman]

Okay. I mean, that's impressive.

[Matt Farah]

Not for me. But like, I kind of get what you're going on. Going for that.

[Zach Klapman]

I gotta say that the Cobra has a pretty big trunk, especially if you're the inside of your rear fenders are still open like they are on my family's kick car. You can hit like a whole carry on in there.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, that's true.

[Zach Klapman]

Maybe some strong stuff there.

[Matt Farah]

Maybe people put a full size spare or something back there if they're on.

[Zach Klapman]

A tank, maybe something like that.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. And then I saw a Hemi Cuda towing what looked like a big block, you know, speed boat. Yeah, big block jet boat. That's a good time. Charlotte was fun. I went to that. I then went to Texas.

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[Matt Farah]

For a road and track event. It was fun. These road and track events are great fun. We had a really good time. We had great weather. The food was excellent. The wines were interesting. You know, we're in Fredericksburg, Texas hill country Outside of Austin. And they're trying to make. They. By they, I mean the state of Texas and everyone involved in this is really trying to make this Fredericksburg wine country a thing. They don't really grow a lot of grapes there. And there are some places that do make wine, but they import grapes from other places. And there's a lot of places that call themselves wineries, but they're really just tasting rooms that are serving other people's wine.

[Zach Klapman]

That is always a trick when you pull up in the buildings. Too small, and you're like, where's your land?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, too small or huge? We're in Texas, so it's not too small. It's huge. And they're now, you know, it's the Danish or the Scandinavian barn. Everyone's in the Scandinavian barn now with the black wood and the glass ends, but not surrounded by grapes. And so, you know, we tasted a couple good wines, none of which were from the area. It was fun. It was fun in its. It was fun in its weirdness. That part was fun. The important bit is the. Is the photo that you have up on the screen right now, which is that I got to run about, I don't know, 50 laps of coda in a McLaren 750.

[Zach Klapman]

Wow.

[Matt Farah]

Which is. I mean, you talk about. Talk about glorious. I mean, this was a. I drove. I drove two and a half tanks of gas.

[Zach Klapman]

Probably the tires, when you're done, fine.

[Matt Farah]

The best. I mean, that's the best thing about one of these. It uses regular. That's not the best thing about one of these. A good thing about one of these is that it uses regular tires. It's not some R cup Trofeo super sticky, blah, blah, blah. No, it's like a regular ass P0. So I was driving it with the traction control off, and just like, this was the first time I ever drove Koda. And so I had to figure out where I was going. But once I did. Like, this car is so good that you can really. Assuming you're comfortable driving fast, period. It's so responsive that you can intentionally overdrive it the whole way around the track and fight with it like you're driving a fucking Can Am car in 1972, but it won't murder you. It was the greatest.

[Zach Klapman]

Wow.

[Matt Farah]

Slide every single hairpin because you just can. Easy, easy third gear slides. At one point, I did one, and I had a track radio to talk to the flaggers. I like to really be super by the book when they're letting. When someone decides that they're Gonna let me pretty much do whatever I want on the track. I respond in kind by being extremely by the book of my communications. So I have a track radio. I'm going on, I'm coming off, I'm here. I found this thing, whatever. It's generally appreciated. And it's like, oh, okay. This guy is gonna do what he's gonna do, but he's not gonna be unsafe. So like cool. At one point over the radio I was like, nice one. Nice. That's right.

[Zach Klapman]

Did you use the. Did it have like the drift. Whatever it's called the drift controller thing.

[Matt Farah]

It did and that does work. But like after lap like 20, I was like, I don't need you anymore. Goodbye. It's just so, it's just so easy to make it do what you want and listen to what it's doing.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah, I agree.

[Matt Farah]

There's just. And it's dude. 176 on the back straight I saw once with a passenger. And like when you hit the air brake at that speed, it just squats and just stays nice and straight. And actually it's pretty cool. If you trail brake it properly in a medium speed corner. And if you don't know what that is. Normally at a racing school, if you're just starting, they tell you to brake in a straight line and then turn in. Right. Trail braking is braking later, but continuing braking all the way down to the apex of the corner. Right. And depending on the corner, maybe even occasionally past it.

[Zach Klapman]

And your brake pressure is getting lighter and lighter as you enter that corner.

[Matt Farah]

Correct. And if you time it right, there's a point at which that release of brake pressure, almost like a clutch engaging, can be used to make the car oversteer by holding it a little later and keeping the weight further forward. And so with the air brake goes up. But it also you can kind of when you're trail braking control when it goes back down. So that actually gives a quick lift of the rear that helps you initiate that. Which is like all kinds of fun once you figure out how to do that shit. And Tanner was there, he was our hotshot pro. So he was giving thrill rides in Polestar 3s, which let's just say as lovely a car as it is, required multiple Polestar 3s. Although the battery, the performance and the degradation held up better than I thought. And it has a really trick rear diff that you have to adjust your driving for it a little bit. Cause it understeers when you turn in. So you have to brake in a straight line, turn in really slow. And as soon as you turn in, smash the gas. And then it goes whoop. And, like, you know, the rear lifts and oversteers. It's funky as hell, but it does work weird. Okay. So that was fun. So he was doing that, but he wanted to try the McLaren also, so he took me for a thrill ride.

[Zach Klapman]

Hell, yeah.

[Matt Farah]

And so that was after I did. I don't know, four laps maybe. And so he. Then I was like, oh, here's where you. I can go flat there. Oh, I cut here. Okay. And then it was. Then it was on.

[Zach Klapman]

Then it got even faster.

[Matt Farah]

Then I had a line, and it was on. Tanner's a very good teacher. Yeah, He. You know, he's fast and anything.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

I got to interview him for that how to jump a car article. And he was just. It's like he was teaching me, but also just. I could see how dangerous it is in his face.

[Matt Farah]

Just.

[Zach Klapman]

Just explaining. I went, this is very serious.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, that was. It was a very fun event. And Texas hill country is a fun place to drive. It's a very different type of driving. A lot of it. And I did 1200 miles and a track day in the 750 Spyder.

[Zach Klapman]

It's a great work week, dude.

[Matt Farah]

I did. I got 23. I think. I think I put 23. I forget if it was 23. 26. 24. Sorry. 24 miles per gallon at, like, high. At probably, like, 80 on the highway. And then I got 1.3 miles per gallon on the track. Wow. Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

New record. I think that's worse than the Ford GT that when Clarkson tested.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, it was. It was really bad. Coda's really fast, and you can use so much full throttle there.

[Zach Klapman]

How's the surface of Koda? Bumpy? Good.

[Matt Farah]

I thought it was fine.

[Zach Klapman]

Okay.

[Matt Farah]

I. I did. I do not have. There was a. There were. There's a couple little bumps, but, like, the McLaren, honestly, rides so well. That. And I. I don't even put it in track handling. I put it in sport. I like a little more body roll.

[Zach Klapman]

Same. It's probably a thing they talk about with F1 because they're F1.

[Matt Farah]

F1 is so different, dude. This thing. This thing rides like a Rolls. Yeah, it's the best.

[Zach Klapman]

A good car.

[Matt Farah]

I would. I would. And you know, the homie Tony A. I took him for a ride. He was there. He was shopping within three hours. Wow. I have a dangerous friend. He got out of the car. He's like, what are these going for? He was looking. Whatever it is, he was looking right away. It was great. My scheme for FedExing luggage worked out perfectly fine. That was. That was good. Yeah, that. That thing, man. And. Oh, shit. So on the flight there from Charlotte, I watched the movie flow. I. It's the animated movie about a cat that won the Oscar for best Animated movie this year. It was a huge upset because they made it for no money and they lost to, like, Pixar or. They beat Pixar. Wow.

[Zach Klapman]

Okay.

[Matt Farah]

No dialogue. 90 minutes. I shit you not.

[Zach Klapman]

Like, Wall E. No dialogue. Or.

[Matt Farah]

It's a movie about a cat that interacts with other animals. So there is no dialogue to pretend.

[Zach Klapman]

That we haven't made those movies before. With dialogue.

[Matt Farah]

That's true, but it's not. It's a realistic. Mostly realistic depiction. They're not anamorphic. They're the real animals.

[Zach Klapman]

Okay.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Unbelievably beautiful movie. And I shit you not, I cried for almost the entire. Like, almost every minute of it. Almost from the opening frame.

[Zach Klapman]

Really?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Yeah. From probably two or three minutes in the movie until the end and then some.

[Zach Klapman]

Is it sad right away? Like, up?

[Matt Farah]

I don't think it's sad. I mean, yes, it is. It's sad right away. No main characters die.

[Zach Klapman]

Okay.

[Matt Farah]

Hundreds of seconds, but there's a holocaust in the back. No. No main characters die. And not a huge amount of other things flows.

[Zach Klapman]

The cat at a kill shelter. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Matt Farah]

No, no. A flood floods a cat's home. If I was an actor, I could make myself cry right now thinking about that movie.

[Zach Klapman]

Wow.

[Matt Farah]

I've done it. Been able to do it, like, three times since. It's incredibly moving. But, like, because I speak cat and it's done so well, and the idea of a scared cat, like, affects me so much. Just. Just fucking destroyed me. It just. It is one of the most beautiful movies I've ever seen.

[Zach Klapman]

All right.

[Matt Farah]

I really. I really do recommend it. But, like, fuck. Like, just maybe you won't be affected by it the way I was. But, like, prepare yourself, because it's good to know. Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

Because Sarah. Sarah's even more empathetic to animals than I am.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

And if I spring this on her, might make her cry.

[Matt Farah]

Just tell her before you watch it that nobody died. That nobody.

[Zach Klapman]

That is important.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's still like the. The. The. The. It must. The director of that movie or producer, the person largely responsible, whatever. Whatever their role is, must have a incredibly deep empathy for not just animals, but people. And because the ability to capture that amount of emotion in eyes and expressions and stuff. And without dialogue is very extraordinary. Really, really beautiful thing. Anyway, so that's my movie recommendation. Book recommendations for the month. On a clear day, you can see General motors by John DeLorean. Finish that. Awesome. That's a good one. It's John DeLorean's, like, expose of his later years at GM and like, what a fucking shit show the company was. That one was very fun and oh. So Taycan update. There's two updates. Update number one is I had a major software update at the dealer to hopefully address the ADAs. That was fucking up.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

And they did the newest update, but they said they couldn't replicate the adas issue, which is incredibly frustrating. And in the software update, I have said that this would happen and it happened. I've said the software Lord giveth and the software Lord taketh away. The software Lord took it away. I can no longer do side by side GPSs. If I pull up the route planner on the one screen and then try to pull up ways on the other screen, it terminates the route guidance on the original screen because it goes. And it does it the other way too. Yeah, yeah. This passenger screen just goes back to a fucking totally wasted space.

[Zach Klapman]

And they couldn't replicate the thing that you had a problem with any.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

So you might have lost both.

[Matt Farah]

Well, I probably would have got the software update eventually.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

But like, dude, the software Lord fucking took it away.

[Zach Klapman]

It didn't give us anything.

[Matt Farah]

Nothing. Nothing. Took us while it was there, though. The driver, you know, the. The Taycan has frameless doors, so the window cracks a little bit every time you open the door. Right. And so it was a little squeaky. When it goes down, it would squeak. And I was like, oh, look at that, guys. And so they replaced the weather stripping, so now it has new weather stripping. Doesn't squeak.

[Zach Klapman]

Nice.

[Matt Farah]

No cost to me. But there was something I had to pay for the brake service, which is a fluid flush, a pad inspection. The hydraulic brakes, fluid flush, pad inspection. That was a new fluid. That was like 125 bucks. And then I got a new cabin filter, which I actually. They did one right before I bought the car in October. Fires. The fires were like the first week we had the car, and we never drove the car, like, super close to where the fires were. Like, it wasn't here for those first really bad days where, like, it was raining ash. It wasn't even here for that. But, like, the cabin filter was off.

[Zach Klapman]

There's just stuff in the air.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

If you can't see It.

[Matt Farah]

It was so bad. So, yeah, new cabin filter. That was like 250. So those were things I had to pay for. But today I got my random wheels.

[Zach Klapman]

Dude, they look awesome.

[Matt Farah]

And we're not posting pictures yet because the car's not done. You didn't post picture, did you?

[Zach Klapman]

No, I didn't.

[Matt Farah]

Okay. You didn't. Right. Okay. Because it's not done. I'm. The car's going.

[Zach Klapman]

You want the fenders this afternoon.

[Matt Farah]

It's going to get the rest of it done. Like, I'm actually super stoked that I only have to drive it for half a day. Half done. I don't like. I like done.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Like, go away and come back done. Right.

[Zach Klapman]

I know what you mean.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. So we have the wheels, and they look unbelievable.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

It elevates your car from a. I mean, the shape of that car is great, but like, the. Just white with the wheels it had, it's very much like, oh, commuter base appliance kind of thing. But now it's like, oh, there's intention. Like, this color was chosen. These wheels were chosen. This person knows what they're doing.

[Matt Farah]

You know, he didn't buy white because it was there.

[Zach Klapman]

Exactly. Because white is a fleet color for so many things. So it's easy for it to seem unintentional to the layperson.

[Matt Farah]

Well, and when we do the fenders and the clear corners, it will be even more so. It'll be really, really nice. But it looks great now, especially outside. Right now, it's at driving height. I didn't lower it, but if you put it at. If you put it at park height, it looks real good.

[Zach Klapman]

Did you post that rendering video that I sent?

[Matt Farah]

I don't know. Oh, no. But I haven't posted any other content yet either. So I'll do it back to back with the finished product. That's what we'll do.

[Zach Klapman]

The rendering was. HRA's rendering person was exceptional. Gabriel, I think.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Yeah. And it looks exactly like the render, which is. Which is awesome. I was just so excited. But of course, you know, when modifying an electric car, even with wheels, it is very important to not fuck up how the car drives or the range. So I made sure that we did a OEM size. So it's the same size wheel and size tire as you'd get in a Taycan Cross Turismo Turbo. And I know that because I got it off my customers. And the same tire that you could get. It's actually not an EV specific tire. It's a high load Performance tire. Basically it's a PS4S for high performance car for heavy cars. Excuse me. So it's the kind of tire you would get on a Panamera or on a Mercedes AMG. Like an E63 maybe would be that tire. So on the way down, I started with a full charge this morning and I drove down and back and I did the exact same thing both ways. Just got on the highway and hit the radar. Cruise at 74, that's my number. And I just cruised. So it took me 46% to get to HRE. I got there with 54%. So when I left to come back, that was on the old wheels, the stock wheels with the Falken EV all season tire. So on the way back, I started with 54%. It took me 50% to get home. Now I also out of fear of not making it. Now the thing is, it's not apples to apples exactly, because you do drive a little different when you know you're gonna get somewhere with 3%. Like, like, like you start to, you start to adjust.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah. You stop passing.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Like, I wasn't, I wasn't gonna like fly the plane into the mountain, you know what I mean? Like, I wanted to see if it was more or less efficient, but I, I didn't want to run the car dry in order to find out.

[Zach Klapman]

Well, in the drive down, did you just set it at 74 and cruise or did you set it at 70?

[Matt Farah]

It was early in the morning. It was like 6 o'clock in the morning.

[Zach Klapman]

Oh, right.

[Matt Farah]

So I got on the highway and I set it at 74. And I don't think I had to dip below 65 ever for anything the whole way. So this time a little different. There was a little more traffic, so I couldn't go as fast. The whole time the average speeds were lower, but also I was a little more conscious because it was like, you're gonna get home with like 7% or whatever and you start to see numbers like that and you mentally, you can't help yourself. But yeah, you don't make that pass. You don't do certain things. So having said that, I got home, it took 50% to get home, so it took 4% extra and it left me with 4% on the charge when I got here, which was a little stressful, but not too stressful. Interestingly, I went from a 20 to a 21. The HREs, which are a 522 is the model number, are a 21. And they were worried. I was like Hey, I want to put them on a scale. I want to put. And I said not. Not just the wheel, because it's not about weighing. It was about with my car. It's the wheel and the tire together. So the wheel and tire together in the front. My new wheels are minus £4 a corner, which is fabulous. My rears are minus £5 a corner to the hres with the Michelin tires. So I don't know. I don't know how much credit goes to each thing, but the total is what I care about. And it's substantially lower.

[Zach Klapman]

Dude, that's great.

[Matt Farah]

That's a bunch. Right? But my tires, quite a bit stickier.

[Zach Klapman]

Right, right, right, right. So the handling will be unsprung versus rolling resistance.

[Matt Farah]

Right. So, interestingly, I think the lower rolling, the lower rotational inertia, and the lower unsprung weight will mean that potentially I could have improved efficiency in performance in the city where I'm starting and stopping and starting and stopping. It'll take less energy to do that once you're already rolling. The stickier rubber is more of a hindrance than the weight of the wheel.

[Zach Klapman]

Plus, to keep you moving requires more energy because you have essentially a lighter flywheel, let's call it. You have four lighter flywheels.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

Ooh, that's interesting.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

Now, I think 4% is a fine price to pay for how good the.

[Matt Farah]

Car looks for looking fly as fuck.

[Zach Klapman]

And does it ride better and quieter because the wheel, the tires are a little softer?

[Matt Farah]

I would say it does not. I would say on big bumps, it's the same. And I would say on harsh edges, on concrete, it's slightly worse ride, but not in a way that bothers me. And I would say the steering is also slightly heavier than it was, but also not in a way that bothers me.

[Zach Klapman]

Cool.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, I think it's a price to pay for looking extremely fly.

[Zach Klapman]

Yes.

[Matt Farah]

Car.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

And if you weren't like super in tune with the car, you'd probably say you couldn't tell the difference. Honestly, not that I'm like a somebody, but, like, it's a fair.

[Zach Klapman]

Oh, with the steering, I think it looks.

[Matt Farah]

No, no, no, no, no. The steering and the ride, I mean, it's a fine. It's a fine difference. It's a fine difference. Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

So anyway. Pretty fucking sick. Can't wait for it to be done. It's going to be the only Taycan from what I gather. Unless there's a last minute sign up at air water on April 26th. So that's fun.

[Zach Klapman]

It's a sick daily.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

It's a sick daily.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. And I learned a lot more about wheels while I was down there today. They, you know, it took them a little while to swap them over and take the. Because they had to take the TPMS sensors out of the old ones and, and put them in the new ones for all that. So it was like a two hour process. So Alan was showing me around like all their new machinery and all the cool stuff. So, you know these wheels. Pull up a picture of the wheel. This is really cool. I didn't know they were doing this. They have something called FMR now. So this wheel, it looks like almost like a three piece wheel, but it's a two piece wheel. They now have this instead of, you know, when they were doing a three piece wheel, it was an outer barrel, inner barrel and then the face was centered, sandwiched. Right. Those barrels were rolled, were made from sheets of aluminum. This FMR is a forged barrel. So instead of three pieces it's only two pieces. Right. The face and the barrel. And they move where the mounting point is depending on the fitment. But it's not rolled from sheet, it's a forged. So it's like way stronger. Whoa.

[Zach Klapman]

So people, that's their new line. Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

The fm, the two piece, the FMRX is the, is their like their new shit. And so it's, it has the look of a three piece but has the strength of a single piece forged. And yeah, it's fucking cool. So for high performance they don't do, they don't really do three piece anymore. And he said it's weird because like people hear two piece and three piece and they assume three piece is better. So they ask for three piece because they just want the best thing.

[Zach Klapman]

More pieces is better.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. And, and people. And he has, he has like, there's a real like learning curve curve where I have to sit down and explain to them why these two piece wheels will look the same but perform better. But they like don't.

[Zach Klapman]

I understand people's resistance only because I know people like they've spent 30 years going three pieces best.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

And now you have to tell them it's different.

[Matt Farah]

What the forum says and whatever.

[Zach Klapman]

This is like the speakers in the car downstairs where it's only 6 and like we can't sell that. We need 19 then 20.

[Matt Farah]

Exactly the same. I told, I just told him the story about the speakers. It was exactly the same shit. Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

We just want more.

[Matt Farah]

So that's pretty cool, huh?

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Looks like a three piece. But. But it's. See that? Yeah, it's nice.

[Zach Klapman]

Oh yeah.

[Matt Farah]

So it's just one forged bear. Yeah, forged barrel.

[Zach Klapman]

Cool.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, super cool.

[Zach Klapman]

Awesome.

[Matt Farah]

Shout out to hre Wheels. Making wheels in California like fucking bosses. But yeah, that's. That's the things. And also. Huh.

[Zach Klapman]

Speaking of mileage.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, yeah, no, that's awesome. We should talk about that. That's yours? Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

Well, I mean this is a new lawsuit has been filed, I believe by one person, but it could turn into class action. Basically, it accuses Tesla of overestimating the mileage on their cars by as much as 117%. I read about this earlier and this. Basically this guy said like for every mile he drove, it seemed like it was recording 1.7. And also as it gets closer to the end year warranty, it seems like the calculations go faster. So this person bought this car and said that in the year he owned it, he drove 6,000 miles and it recorded 13,000. Big, big disparity. Here we go.

[Matt Farah]

Okay. The case was filed by Nyeree Hinton, who says they bought a 2020 Tesla Model Y in December 2022 with 36,772 miles on it. Hinton states that from December 14th to February 6th they average 55.5 miles a day. But between March and June, this spiked to 72 miles a day just as the Model Y was approaching its warranty expiration. The owner estimates that the average mileage should have been roughly 20 miles fewer per day because of their consistent routine during this time.

[Zach Klapman]

So yes, the Model y, he drove 6086 miles. The Tesla recorded 13,228. And correction is not class action. It is a single person right now.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, I mean, I think this. Yeah, this is a hard one because Tesla has a history of shenanigans. Right. But also you could probably find lots of instances of Tesla cars that don't do this. As Phil Koopman told us, there are basically no regulations on software, although I'm sure there is a regulation. I don't even. Do I even want to know if there's a regulation that odometers have to be accurate?

[Zach Klapman]

We should look that up because I saw this comment on Instagram and I just googled it really quickly. So forgive me if this is. But this is. Google's AI says that Tesla odometers calculate mileage by estimating it using predictive algorithms that consider energy consumption and driving behavior.

[Matt Farah]

No, that means range. That means.

[Zach Klapman]

This says odometers calculate mileage.

[Matt Farah]

That's AI, though. True AI Is trash. That's an AI that's AI. Sloppy trash.

[Zach Klapman]

Do Tesla's.

[Matt Farah]

You can't. You can't. There's no algorithm for a car's odometer. Either it's accurate or it's inaccurate.

[Zach Klapman]

I agree with you.

[Matt Farah]

My Ferrari's odometer was f. Ed up.

[Zach Klapman]

I mean, yeah, there should be a law that. I mean, let's see. Do odometers.

[Matt Farah]

There's. I feel like there. There's definitely a law on speedometers, right? The speedometer can read a certain amount high, but it cannot read low.

[Zach Klapman]

There is no law regulating odometer accuracy. However, the Federal Odometer act forbids tampering with vehicle mileage, so.

[Matt Farah]

Okay, wait, I'm not a lawyer. The Federal Vehicle Odometer Act? That sounds like something that prevents rollbacks, that prevents consumers and dealers from rolling back odometers. That does not sound, at least on its surface, like something that prevents an automaker from having a fraudulently trash algorithmic odometer, which would be the funniest fucking thing I've ever heard.

[Zach Klapman]

So I typed Tesla odometer into Google to try to, like, find an answer, and I found a thread on Reddit from two years ago where someone reported what this gentleman is. Has cited or reported in his lawsuit saying, hey, I'm driving X. And based on what I like, I made a GPS route of my route, and it's this many miles, but Tesla is saying it's further, and a bunch of people are going, holy shit, my car is doing that too. Oh, crap, I need to pay attention to that. Oh, the same thing happened to me. That's interesting.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. I mean it. And also, am I. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't been in a Tesla in quite some time. I don't think the odometer is on the screen, like, all the time. Like, it's not like in a regular car. You know, for the most part, the odometer is there all the time. I think in a Tesla, you have to go into a menu to see it. You're not watching it all the time. So if there were going to be, you might be able to configure your Tesla.

[Zach Klapman]

That's correct. To display odometer, you have to tap some things.

[Matt Farah]

You have to tap some things. Right? So if you're. I mean, there was a fucking tweet, there's a Reddit thread called LinkedIn lunatics, and there was some guy who was. I mean, this could be fucking trash. But the Metaphor does hold true, which is like, I cut my employees pay 15%. You know how I did it? I just didn't tell them. I just like the. I just cut it. He said most people don't notice. He said of my, like 30 employees, only one person noticed. So if you. He said they just. People are on direct deposit. They just don't check. And so. And so if you were. If you were a company that either buried the odometer for reasons of aesthetics and then realized you could fuck with it because people wouldn't notice, or even worse, you buried it for that ex. So you could do that exact thing. I'm not saying that they did anything, but, like, they have the opportunity to, because the odometer is not in the face of the driver all the time.

[Zach Klapman]

Right, True. Yeah, that's. Yeah, it's a great point.

[Matt Farah]

And they have a history of shenanigans. Like, right. They shouldn't. They. They can't be given the benefit of the doubt in shit like this. Yes, but I bet you could find a whole bunch of cars that don't do this. Like, it's not every car, right?

[Zach Klapman]

Like, it couldn't be every car from Tesla or from.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, like, I'm like, Like I'm sure that if you test, I don't know, a hundred random cars, like, some of them, the odometers would be fucking way off. And some, like, would. Would be accurate.

[Zach Klapman]

That would be.

[Matt Farah]

You think every. Do you think every single Tesla on the road has an odometer that reads high?

[Zach Klapman]

I think it depends on if it is a manufacturing or programming flaw or if it's a feature. You know what I mean? Like, if it's a feature, then why would it not be in all of the cars? Because it reduces how many times they have to service a car.

[Matt Farah]

Well, yeah, I mean, if you. Hypothetically, if you. These are connected cars, right? So you have the ability to like, OTA update and change these cars and you can change anything. Forget they can change anything they want. So, like, just saying conspiracy theory hat, right? Let's fucking tinfoil hat this bitch. If you had a rough quarter and you wanted to pinch some costs, you could literally make people's cars expire out of warranty faster. Like, that would be the advantage of this, right? That would really be the only advantage of this, actually. No, it wouldn't. You could make people's leases come up faster too. You could literally, like, fraudulently make people's leases come up faster. That would be an enormous problem.

[Zach Klapman]

This is the line right below.

[Matt Farah]

Okay. This is right. Oh, you're saying it's right after the thing we stopped reading. The lawsuit is based on a patent that Tesla filed for a seemingly tricky form of recording mileage. This article. This is from a Jalopnik article. The patent calls for a. Oh, God. Quote, miles to electrical energy conversion factor that would take in factors like changing behavior and road conditions into the calculation of miles traveled instead of a direct recording of miles travel. The lawsuit alleges that Tesla is using this technology instead of mechanical or electrical systems that faithfully record miles traveled in order to shorten warranties based on miles driven in the cars.

[Zach Klapman]

Why. Why would they. Like, the odometer is such a simple thing that has existed for 100 years. Like, I'm trying to put my head in. In their head and go, why would you want to make a new thing that would calculate miles for this? Unless this is, like, a way they worded an estimation of range and Jalopnik and us are misinterpreting it or the lawsuit's misinterpreting it.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Without. I mean, automakers file patents for shit all the time. Like, if you have an idea for anything that hasn't been done before, you patent it. Right. This happens. Like, Ford gets, like, thrown under the bus a lot for some real, like, dystopian stuff that they've patented.

[Zach Klapman]

Right. The most recently, it was cars that would, like, talk to each other about speed and basically, like, alert law enforcement when they're speeding. Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Oh, that, I don't think advertise for you. Huh?

[Zach Klapman]

The cars were going. The cars were going to have to use their onboard camera systems to film cars that were doing.

[Matt Farah]

Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like. But I just. I don't think they should at this point. Look at. Do we. Do we still have to talk about why you shouldn't give Tesla the benefit of the doubt for shit like this? Like, their business is built on shady shit like this. A lot of it. So I don't know. I mean, I look forward to seeing what's.

[Zach Klapman]

See what happens in Discovery. Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

A lot of people did send me the story, okay. Their cars don't drive themselves, and they probably never will. That's the most important thing to know. So I saw another headline that I just scrolled right on by the. That said it must be the end of the quarter. Is it? It was, I think.

[Zach Klapman]

Yes, it was.

[Matt Farah]

Yes, it was. Yeah. Elon says that the Cyber Cab will be on the road driverless in September. Like, all right. Yeah. Cool, man.

[Zach Klapman]

I think they said That a few months ago, too, so maybe he's trying to stick with that timeline. Yeah, we will see. Well, on the road, but moving. What did he say? I don't know. On the road.

[Matt Farah]

Which road?

[Zach Klapman]

In, like, a gated, geofenced area.

[Matt Farah]

Like, drop it off a flatbed. It is technically. Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

Good stuff.

[Matt Farah]

You want to ask questions for the old podcast? You know how to do it. Patreon.com the Smoking Tire podcast is where you should be headed. You can ask us questions for the show, you can catch the live stream, you can get the show early, you can get the show without ads. You can get extra shows and a whole lot more. Let's fucking go buy the government. Buying the government ain't gonna fix your daddy issues. Says. I feel like I'm in the minority, but I have a hard time justifying getting a daily driver with plans to modifying it when it's used to get you to and from work and to get groceries. I can see getting a fun car if you have only one parking spot, but modding a daily sounds like torture. Am I just old and decrepit at 32? Absolutely not. I am with you. I like a daily and I like a sports car. And you can. You can customize your daily. You could. You could do some cosmetic mods, you can do some things to it that'll make it your own without ruining how it drives. That's possible.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

But, yeah, I would know the performance mods. I would skip that on the daily.

[Zach Klapman]

If you have two cars, keep one special and one totally normal.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

And the normal one will feel like a nice vacation from the other and vice versa.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Here's a way. If you don't think you have the self control, I recommend a lease. I recommend a lease. Also, I recommend an ev. Nothing says, I don't want to modify this like a leased ev. Right?

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah, good point.

[Matt Farah]

Leave it alone.

[Zach Klapman]

That'd be the biggest waste of money.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Purchased an ev. What's the first thing I can do to this? JKAT says, while the grandeur of major auto shows has been permanently damaged by the digital age, how do you think they could make a comeback for both public and press? Or is it even possible to save them?

[Zach Klapman]

Hmm, that's really hard. I was gonna say, when SEMA started doing the activations, like, with performance driving, you know, these. Ford had their big parking lot for drifting, and there were trucks jumping and stuff. That was rad. But now you can also see that on Instagram every day, depending on your algorithm. So I think there are fewer and fewer things that an auto show can offer unless, you know, like a digital video will never truly supplement sitting in a car. And if you like, you have kids and you want to introduce them to cars, that's what they're for. But as far as the experience goes, I think it's pretty tough.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. I mean auto shows, like traditional, like convention center auto shows are like consumer focused things that are largely paid for by the local dealer associations. And so all it takes is for a few of the big major local dealer associations to say we're not seeing a return off of this. We could put this million dollars or $2 million that it costs for the booth into something else. And once you get below a certain threshold of cars that are willing to participate, it stops being worthwhile. I can't, I couldn't tell you the last time I went to like the LA or New York Auto Show. It's probably been 10 years. So I mean, I'm not sure what an enthusiast or the press. Like there are people that go to auto, like there are journalists who go like, I just.

[Zach Klapman]

Galpinstall has a really big presence at the LA auto show, but it does seem like there are fewer manufacturers that show up. And then of course the national shows have either closed or shrunk.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. And on the other hand, SEMA is still like a really hot ticket in Vegas. That's a hard thing. Part of it is because there's a factor of you can't get in if you're not industry. But maybe trying to make a SEMA regional shows that are open for the public or something like that. I don't know. I'm pro in person car events, but.

[Zach Klapman]

I think these aftermarket things do well. Like Overland Expo, which is like SEMA but for off roading. Like that's, that does well because people can drive there, they can park, they can sleep in their rooftop tent. Like they can feel like they're a part of the event. And sema, same thing like the people that go that are in the industry, I mean it's kind of a big party that also you can learn about shocks and see new products. But you know, the casual car customer doesn't need to really be exposed to that side of things. Like they're not gonna, most of them aren't gonna give a shit about the new coilovers from jrz.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

And so that's why I think they're, I think they're a very different, there's a very different goal between the two of those things.

[Matt Farah]

Mm. Yeah. I'm trying to think what would make me go to a regular auto show. I think there's a lot more. There are more dealers now. I think too, it's easier to go sit in cars in major metro areas than it used to be. Right. You used to have to go to that auto show because there might not be a dealer like near you. Or maybe I'm just making that up. It seems like there are more, but I don't have data on it. I could just be making that up. So please, please assume I'm making that up. Donnysellmate, the cold fucking username, wants to thank us for the recommendation of a very good song, which I do recommend you download a very good song with like seven A's. And that way when your phone auto plays when you plug it in, it's a 10 minute song, or at least 10 minutes of just silence so it doesn't blow your eardrums out. It's great. But wants to know, any other driving quality of life hacks do we have that most people not know about?

[Zach Klapman]

I just learned one I didn't know about is that you can add an air pump lumbar to like any seat. Like they sell aftermarket. It's got like a frame. Yes, exactly. So you can use your old cock pump and put it in the seat.

[Matt Farah]

I have the parts.

[Zach Klapman]

Does it still leak? It used to leak.

[Matt Farah]

It goes. Because I connected it to the Fantic.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah, I saw that posted. I went, oh man, that changes everything.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, you could get that and connect it to the Fantic though, and then it would go and, you know, pop up your cockpit.

[Zach Klapman]

Oh, I thought I meant the seed.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, no, no, you're cock. Yeah. And also the seed.

[Zach Klapman]

This is a new way to integrate Fantic. I mean, we've done a lot of videos for them.

[Matt Farah]

So this is, this is a Bert Kreischer Fantic hat. Guys, I have an idea.

[Zach Klapman]

The latest episode with him and Tom was pretty wild and unhinged.

[Matt Farah]

Is it the gay bar one?

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah, it just seems like Bert's edging the whole time.

[Matt Farah]

Yikes. What other do I have? Another quality of life hack. I mean. Yeah, I mean, if you can. If when you're driving at night, if you can get down with like turning off as many lights in the car as you can, you know, do you need that screen up right now? Like that kind of thing? It'll be really a treat. I do recommend that. I always recommend putting a license plate sponge behind the license plate for your base.

[Zach Klapman]

Oh, yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Keeps you from rattling with the Base. That's a good one.

[Zach Klapman]

I bought Sarah an $8 silicone license plate frame to stop the base vibration.

[Matt Farah]

That works too. Yeah, that works on a diesel vehicle when we have it on the delica. Yeah. A clatter clattera. What other quality of life?

[Zach Klapman]

I mean, it's expensive, but tint. Ceramic tint. If you're gonna own the car a long time. Yeah, dude, just anytime I drive a car without it now, I swear I can feel the UV coming through versus my car. Sarah.

[Matt Farah]

Says you guys have driven a lot of modified cars, and I've heard you describe wide body cars that rely on spacers or big offsets to fill out extended arches as driving, quote, weird. Can you clarify? Yes, I can. So, like, when you make a car wider, if all you do is widen the wheel but keep the suspension geometry, it changes all of these pivot points that you need that the car was designed for in order to drive normally.

[Zach Klapman]

Yes.

[Matt Farah]

Right. So in theory, the wide body and the wider tire, like, gives you more grip, but you're actually not taking advantage of it because the geometries are wrong. And it's actually making the car drive worse because it's more likely to be have the road drive it than the other way around. Like, imperfections in the road will make the car drive like fucking shit. Whereas if you lengthen the control arms and use less offset, instead of the original short control arms with a wide ass wheel, now you're using the geometries the way they were designed from the factory. You're just starting from further out, and then the car will drive properly. That's why.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah, the book I read, Tuning to Win, which I could barely comprehend, is all about the geometry of suspension roll center, center of gravity, all these things. And all of these things to support you have to work in concert. And there's so much math involved of where is the center? Like they calculate where is the center of this tire, how does that affect the length of our control arm and everything else? So if you use a spacer or, or offset wheel, you have moved the center of that tire further away from where that suspension arm is. And then all the math that they did that all of these wonderful engineers did at the factory is gone. Yeah, it's just thrown away. So there's a lot more that goes into it.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. You can't just put wider wheels on the regular suspension.

[Zach Klapman]

You can to a degree, but you have to be careful. And you need to talk to someone either at the wheel company who knows your car very well, or the suspension or whatever. And there's a certain amount of leeway you can get away with. And then there's a point like RWB style where it will drive. If they don't get longer suspension arms, it will feel strange.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, I don't recommend that. I have no problem with wide body kits, but if you're, you should. You, you have to put the wheels where they need to go and then make the body for that. You don't just get the body and then like, oh, I need, I need four more inches of wheel. 4K. Libya says. Zach, did you say your brother wrecked the Cobra? Did he? That was like years ago.

[Zach Klapman]

16.

[Matt Farah]

Oh yeah. That was like 30 years ago. I don't know the answer to that one. Go down to Alex Hay. With escalating new car prices, will the depreciation of EVs do what no amount of government incentives do? And by that I mean get them into the hands of the masses? Well, I think the escalating new car prices might slow the depreciation of used ones. I mean, that's already happened with Taycans. I was on time for buying a used Taycan. They have not like gone up up, but they're not as cheap as they were in December for sure.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah. I had a quote from Morgan Stanley's auto analyst. Basically says that it's gonna push people into the used market and then the average cost per month of a car is gonna go up from 750amonth to 830 to 840. That's average price.

[Matt Farah]

Dude, that's so much.

[Zach Klapman]

That is a huge amount of money every month because the average car price is like 48 grand. But you know, and insurance.

[Matt Farah]

Yikes. This one's baklava balls. Says you have a million dollars each to buy multiple Porsche 911s with one for winter, one for summer, one for track and at least one air cooled. Living somewhere with seasons. What are you buying that's fun? I'm buying a Dakar. For winter, I'm buying a GTS Targa. For Summer Daily, I'm buying a GT3 RS 4.0. For Zitrac, I'm buying for air cooled, I'm gonna go with a 89930 Turbo with a G50. And I'm gonna go with a 964 Carrera RS also. And that's. And I'll call the game there. Call the game there. That's probably over a million dollars.

[Zach Klapman]

I mean the Dakar is the perfect, perfect choice, of course, I think, but. Well, a 2.7 RS is so expensive. What are those, like 3/4 of a million dollars?

[Matt Farah]

At least.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah, okay, never mind. Forget that.

[Matt Farah]

By the way, I just blew. I just re. Went back and did the math on mine, and I blew through this budget. I was. I was probably almost 2 million.

[Zach Klapman]

I wonder what an old 911st would cost. Do you know what those cost now?

[Matt Farah]

They would be very expensive. There's not a lot of them. Yeah, it's like a. It's a. That's a very rare car. It's rarer than an rs.

[Zach Klapman]

It's unfortunate that all the great things are really, really expensive. I think for summer I'd get a turbo.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

But I would get a991 Turbo. I would get a. God, that's so much money already. I'm gonna get an. I'm gonna get a 911st at sticker through magic. So I'll get that at sticker. And that's what we're at. 700, 600, maybe.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

And then I get the Dakar. So now we're at 850. And then a pretty ratty like. Oh, and then a keen safari car. Oh, yeah, that would be great.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

All right.

[Matt Farah]

That's good.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Well, thank you, everybody. What a delightful 90 minutes of radio that was. Except for the part about the tariffs. That was really depressing. Fucking guy shouldn't have brought that up.

[Zach Klapman]

Q212, where last week, Matt's like, we want to talk about tariffs, but not right now.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, yeah, that's true. I have one page left.

[Zach Klapman]

My notebook in your grant.

[Matt Farah]

My red stone paper note.

[Zach Klapman]

That's more than one page, huh? What?

[Matt Farah]

Well, I. I should say I have one leaf.

[Zach Klapman]

Oh.

[Matt Farah]

I have one leaf. That. That. This is the back. So it's. It's three writing pages or one leaf. That's. That's the end. Very excited to move on to a new notebook.

[Zach Klapman]

This is like when I told you about the terrace.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. You're like, he talks about notebooks and I want to kill myself. Yeah. Shout out to Vinnie Russo, who got married last weekend in Palm Springs. He got married, and all I got was this cookie with his Cadillac on it.

[Zach Klapman]

I mean, they got married.

[Matt Farah]

It looks good, though.

[Zach Klapman]

By themselves.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Unknown Guest]

No.

[Matt Farah]

And he was wearing a backwards baseball hat.

[Zach Klapman]

I asked him, what hat did you get? He goes, I got a new one. No labels, just for the wedding. Perfect. You got a formal backwards hat.

[Matt Farah]

That rules. All right, well, we have a lot more. We have so many more questions. Our next show is just going to be half questions. Actually, it literally will be half questions. We'll see you then. Bye.