Car Shows and the Free Mercedes

Summary

The Smoking Tire Podcast

Episode: Car Shows and the Free Mercedes
Hosts: Matt Farah & Zack Klapman
Date: October 21, 2025

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Episode Overview

Matt Farah and Zack Klapman catch up after a busy week with a deep dive into the LA car event scene, Matt's personal weight loss journey, and an exciting new (free!) Mercedes project. The show is packed with car culture reflections, project ideas, detailed event recaps, watch talk, listener Q&A, and their usual blend of honest, sometimes irreverent banter.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. Matt’s Weight Loss & Lifestyle Transformation

[02:00 – 11:00]

• Matt shares the milestone of dropping to 245 pounds, the lowest he's been since age 16.
• He reflects on previous weight fluctuations, noting “March 2023. Fucking said no mo at 297. Saw a nutritionist, got Sean and fucking head down. So two years and five months, £50. Wow. No cheats, no ozempics. Old school.” (Matt, 02:24)
• Discusses how cutting back alcohol (replaced with weed, which acts as an appetite suppressant for Matt) was a major factor.

  “Alcohol gives me crazy munchies. So like, that was the kickstart a year ago to go from like 260, 65 down to 245.” (Matt, 04:33)

• Gym routine: works out 7 days a week, credits his trainer for keeping him on track.
• On the importance of sustainable habits: “If you don’t build the foundation of good behavior, you will probably eventually slide back.” (Zack, 03:42)
• Shoutouts to his trainer and general advice to listeners on persistence, not overdoing it, and finding satisfaction in earned rewards.

2. Upcoming Events & Car Culture Plans

[11:13 – 17:00]

• Matt previews his upcoming appearance at Hilton Head Concours (Nov 2–3), hanging out with his dad and welcoming fans.
• Promises a relaxed atmosphere—possibly even arriving by (non-existent) boat for laughs.
• Teases attending the Grand Seiko GS9 event in LA (Nov 8): “If you want to come this year, it’s really cool. You get to see all the newest shit…good sushi, as expected.” (Matt, 22:21)

3. Dumb & Dumber Pebble Beach Pitch (Humor)

[17:18 – 21:00]

• Zack describes a longstanding fantasy: arriving at Pebble Beach Concours in Dumb & Dumber tuxedos via dinghy for maximum spectacle:

  “Dress as the Dumb and Dumber … and then arrive at Pebble Beach Concord by dinghy on the beach side … and then the key is to have passes so when they try to kick you out, you just like. You have tickets.” (Zack, 17:41)

• Spirals into Mission Impossible–style joking, skydiving out of planes, and “scalp force” stunts.
• Both riff on classic movie stunt realism vs. actual LA geography and unionized movie shoots.

4. LA Car Shows: Larry Chen’s Type S Event

[23:11 – 31:29]

• Matt and Zack recap Larry Chen’s Type S event in Long Beach:

  “They took over a parking garage like full on JDM style... a lot of people.” (Matt, 23:19)

• Estimated 10,000 people, strong JDM and LED underglow revival vibes.
• Observed notable trends:
  • “Street Glow is very much back.” (Matt, 23:41)
  • Skylines outnumbered Supras “10 to 1.”
  • "Cool Hondas" — special shoutout to a blue 2000 Si and a Miata with full coupe body.
  • Vast majority Japanese cars, only a smattering of Euros/Americans.
• Sung Kang appeared, promoting his Drifter movie; large crowds for “fireside chat.”

Memorable Quote:

“I did not see so many Supras, but I did see a ton of Skylines. Lots of skylines.” (Matt, 24:10)

5. Race Service & New RTR Mustangs

[31:19 – 33:10]

• Visited Race Service to see new RTR Mustangs:
  • Excited for new four-cylinder EcoBoost with big brakes and chassis upgrades from the Dark Horse.
  • Impressed by 810-hp GT-based RTRs with wild styling.
  • “JR seemed pretty stoked…”
• Quick aside on food: In-N-Out truck at event “burgers were better than in a restaurant.” (Matt, 33:18)

6. The Free Mercedes Project Car

[35:21 – 47:03]

Background:

• Matt receives a 1994 Mercedes E320 Cabriolet (red, 60k miles, Florida car, some exterior neglect) from Hannah’s relatives—“Hannah's aunt and uncle, Aunt Liz and Uncle Phil. She has an Uncle Phil!”

Car Specs & Value:

• Originally $85k in '94 (over $185k today, inflation adjusted).

  “These things were insanely expensive. They were essentially the price of SLs.” (Matt, 36:13)

• Present condition: Runs and drives, but weathered exterior and tired interior.

Project Plan:

• Teaming with CMS Motorsports (“the AMG guy”) to create the “E500 Cabriolet that never existed”:
  • Full 500E powertrain (V8, 5-speed auto)
  • E500 OEM or aftermarket suspension
  • Full front-end/fender/clip conversion
  • Custom widened rear quarters
  • Refresh interior: “Euro Recaros of that period … would be fun.”
  • “The top works, which is great. If the top didn’t work, that could be problematic.”
  • Considering crazy interior ideas like tartan, bus fabric, or acrylic wood replacements.
• Paint will likely stay red for cost and originality, but open to an interior color change and possibly hardtop conversion:

  “Painting it the same color is way cheaper than changing the color.” (Matt, 45:47)

• Potential for air suspension or even hydraulics.
• Timeline: “Next year project”—waiting on finances and schedule.

Notable Moment:

Describing the interior:
“It looks like the skin of a person who lived in the desert for 80 years... the driver’s seat is no bueno.” (Zack & Matt, 42:41–43:14)

7. Listener Q&A (Patreon Mailbag)

[49:13 – 101:28]

• Wide-ranging topics: owning sports cars in flat states, luxury watches, car journalist influence, tire choices, sports sedans, best used Porsches, new car recommendations, stereo systems, nostalgia buys, and much more.

Selected Highlights:

• Sports Cars in Florida:

  “Floridians don’t seem to have much trouble with this … Maybe you should get a GT car.” (Matt, 51:45)

• Watch Advice (New Rolex Owner):

  “My first best practice is wear that motherfucker. Don’t store it away in a box just to keep it shiny. If it really is, you know, it’s a hard thing to do. But like, if it gets scratched, like, okay, whatever, fucking move on.” (Matt, 54:57)

• Car Journalist Influence:

  “I once told Chris Harris that something couldn’t be done in a car. And then he proved to me that actually it could. I just wasn’t good enough at driving.” (Matt, 55:48)

• Best Used Porsche Value (981 vs. 718):

  “A base 981 Boxster/Cayman like is pretty slow ... but I’d rather have the slow six cylinder than a base two liter turbo.” (Matt, 78:31)

• Commuter Recommendation:

  “My mind says GTI. This is a GTI commute.” (Matt, 83:56)

• “Cigar Car” Ideal:

  “My free Mercedes project will be it … top down. Yeah.” (Zack, 85:29)

• Presidential Limo (The Beast):

  “If I’m president, it’s gonna be NASCAR because we’re turning left. But I would fucking have a Chevy Volt stretched like 37ft long.” (Matt, 87:49)

• Nostalgia Buys (Z3M Roadster):

  “That car is 25 years old. That’s a classic car. So it doesn’t matter if it’s like not as good objectively as other things … you want it because it was your dad’s car.” (Matt, 88:58)

8. AI, Drones, and the Dystopian Future

[92:15 – End]

• Matt and Zack wind down with a surprisingly thoughtful (and dark) discussion on AI, drone warfare, and the dehumanization of conflict.

  “[It’s] an Internet where just computers are talking at computers without any people in the way. No lessons are learned from the Terminator movies at all.” (Matt, 92:52)

• Anecdote about meeting a drone boat tech founder at a mixer: “And he goes, you know how many operators you need for that? Humans? And I was like, how many? And he goes, two from anywhere. And I was like, like, oh, good, good. I can’t wait for this to be our, our world.” (Matt, 94:01)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On shortcuts to weight loss:

  “For me, the shortcut to anything isn’t satisfying. Like, doesn’t matter what it is...”
  —Matt, 02:36

• On classic car strength:

  “He just … wrecks everybody. Cause he has this, like, unbelievable old man strength.”
  —Matt, 08:54

• On LA car scenes:

  “It was very much as close as you could get...to doing a true, like, JDM-style parking garage show in LA for sure.”
  —Matt, 25:38

• On project car optimism:

  “I think this will be a fun, a fun one to freight train around in.”
  —Matt, 47:49

• On AI dystopia:

  “We're just moving towards an Internet where just computers are talking at computers without any people in the way.”
  —Matt, 92:52

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:00] Matt’s weight update & backstory
• [11:13] Hilton Head Concours preview
• [17:18] Pebble Beach “dumb arrival” fantasy
• [23:11] Larry Chen’s Type S car meet recap
• [31:19] Race Service + RTR Mustang event
• [35:21] Free Mercedes project backstory & plan
• [49:13] Patreon listener mailbag
• [92:15] Perspectives on AI, drones, and modern dystopia

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Tone and Style

• Casual, candid, and humorous with frequent self-deprecation and inside jokes.
• Occasionally explicit, as is customary for the Smoking Tire podcast.
• Balances deep car knowledge with relaxed “hanging out with friends” energy.
• Honest opinions—even when critical—alongside support for listeners’ choices and curiosity.

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Summary for New Listeners

This episode of The Smoking Tire is an immersive, entertaining, and informative circuit through modern car enthusiasm—from the realities of long-term weight loss to outrageous car show stunts, the joys and perils of project cars, and late-night laughter about car culture. Matt and Zack’s chemistry and expertise shine, especially as they bring real-world, practical advice to listener questions and car buying dilemmas. Whether you’re deep in car projects or just car-curious, this episode is a showcase of why the Smoking Tire remains a staple for gearheads and casual fans alike.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

Show me the money.

[A]

Show. Don't motherfucking tell. Hi, everybody. Hello. Welcome to the program. It's noon on a Friday. You know what that means when we're done with this shit, the week is over. That's funny.

[B]

No, it's not. Mm. Mm.

[A]

It's not. But also, I got a facial at 9 o' clock this morning, so it's not like I've had a tough day.

[B]

Yeah, that's true.

[A]

I haven't had a tough day. I've not. I had a good day. You know what happened this week, Zach?

[B]

Two, four, five new customers.

[A]

245 pounds.

[B]

Oh, right.

[A]

That is the lowest number I've seen on a scale since I was 16 years old.

[B]

Holy.

[A]

Yeah. 264 was wedding day. Wow. Yeah. Graduated from college. 3:30. Whoa.

[B]

When I met you, you were like.

[A]

So you met me? Previous adult low 247. That was the. That was the lowest I'd been as an adult. It took a lot to fucking get there. And it was when I got hurt skiing that I lost it all. So up, down. Since then, up down, up, down. Up, down, up, down. March 2023. Fucking said no mo at 297. Saw a nutritionist got Sean and fucking head down. So two years and five months, £50. Wow. No cheats, no ozempics. Old school. Because it's the only way to fucking do it. I mean, I don't hate on anyone who wants to do any of the surgeries or any of the drugs. Like fucking do. Do you? Whatever makes you look in the mirror and be happy with yourself. Like, I don't give a fuck. For me, for me, the shortcut to anything isn't satisfying. Like, doesn't matter what it is. Like, I'm not saying I've never taken a shortcut to something, but it's. That's rarely a satisfying way to go.

[B]

But also if someone, someone crashes their car, takes it to the body shop and then continues crashing their car, like, eventually the car's gonna look like crap. So if someone does these different things, if you don't build the foundation of good behavior, you will probably eventually slide back.

[A]

Right? And so, so yeah, I mean, and what's crazy is like, actually the real turning point there was the two big turning points was one, 3-20-23, when I made those choices and I, and I had a good, good run over a couple months and then kind of lost it around the holiday season of that year. Started to get it back a little bit. But then when we went to your Bach and I got back on the weed train, you know what happened then? Alcohol consumption. Way down. Oh, way down.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Cut alcohol just without trying, cut alcohol by 75%.

[B]

That's huge.

[A]

I mean, huge. And weed is also. Is an appetite suppressant for me. I don't get munchies, which is a freak fucking thing, but I don't. So, like, but alcohol gives me crazy munchies. So like, that was the kickstart a year ago to go from like 260, 65 down to 245.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Crazy. Wow. And yeah, you're welcome. Yeah, thank you.

[B]

You put in, you put in so much work. You go to the gym every day.

[A]

Yeah, I work out seven days a week, which is my arm. I did four days in a row with my trainer. My arms are fucked up right now. But dude, it's like, it's one of those things. It's like the fucking podcast. Like you're gone for two weeks, so you gotta crush it when you, you know. And I work out in hotel gyms, but not like you, you work out in hotel gyms I can only force myself to do cardio.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which is far better than nothing. But I just can't do a weight circuit without my trainer. Like, I'm fucking spoiled like that. I need it. Like, I need him. Dare to do. Be like, fucking do the thing, asshole. You fat piece of shit. Is exactly how we talk.

[B]

I don't think I could do that for you.

[A]

No. That's actually how I talk to myself. And that's why. That's why I started. But. But anyway, that's great. Does feel nice to. And I don't care about the number so much. I just care about how my clothes fit. And I finally, like, finally, like I'm looking in the mirror and be like, hey, that's all right.

[B]

I told you that. But when we were filming like the Wolf Box ad and you did something, I was like, he's got like, shoulders and arms now. Shit.

[A]

Yeah, so. But like, more importantly, like, the lifestyle I've led, like, nutritionally for the last, like, year, I really enjoy. I don't feel like I'm denying myself anything. And. And you know, cool. Good times.

[B]

Right? Because then you're just enjoying life more.

[A]

Yeah. Just otherwise you're. But also that's the thing with working out, dude. Sean tries to like, push me and I go, I go, dude, I know where you're coming from. But if I don't get hurt today, we can work out tomorrow.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, that's like a huge one. Is like push but not. Not too hard. Yeah. Like cuz like, dude, people get hurt. He. My. My poor trainer gotta get. Shout out to him. Fit. Like Sean on Instagram. He comes to you if you're in la. Book him, Jim in a van. He's great. He. He was spotting someone and like, dude. And the person, the client, like, fucked up. And Sean tried to save the bell and tore his bicep. Yeah, like fucked. That's a bad injury.

[B]

We're talking. We were talking to Ferdy. He tore his bicep doing the ski car stuff. Cause it's like, you know, if like one of the. One of the most common ways people do that is they're doing deadlifts and they don't keep their arms straight. They flex them a little bit, thinking that will help them lift all this weight. And they tear the bicep.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

Because your bicep can't handle that. And it rolls up like a window. Yeah. You don't want to do that. Consistency is. Yeah, I'm the same way. I was like, oh, I can't lift this much anymore. I was talking to Musta about this, and he was like, after. He must have huge. And used to be very strong.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And he hurt himself a little bit. And when he went back to the gym, he just. Like, I lifted the bar for a month. He's like, I don't care. Like, people look at me weird. I don't give a. Yeah. You know, Humongous human being. Just do that and just show up and lift lighter and you can lift longer.

[A]

Yeah. And plus, with all the driving, and my muscles are stronger than my joints. Like, my joints are fucked up. And so, like, tendinitis and my stupid ham. My quad tendon shit. And so, like, my quad is, like, way stronger than my quad tendon. My bicep is way stronger than my fucking elbow. And so, like, my biceps, like, sure. Like, no problem. Like another plate. Like, I'm not saying, like, I'm Superman, but, like, my bicep can lift way more than I can lift, but my elbows will simultaneously snap.

[B]

Right. Because I spend tight or something, 40.

[A]

Hours a week driving fucking cars around.

[B]

Yeah. That's one of the good things about rock climbing, but that it takes a long time for people's tendons to toughen.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You could be a really strong person, but you could still hurt yourself because your tendons, depending on your workouts beforehand, might be weak. Like, that's what you hurt your fingers a lot.

[A]

Like, the old. The. The. That's like the rock climbing equivalent of, like, old man strength.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, what's that documentary about, like, the Mr. Olympia or one of those. And it's like, you know, this young guy who's like, who's the Game of Thrones guy? You know, Hafnor or whatever the fuck the guy's name was. It was a huge Game of Thrones. The mountain from Game of Thrones, that guy. And then this other dude in, like, the Ukraine or some. I'm insulting this person's legacy by another dude who's, like, almost like Rocky, but, like, 55 years old. Doesn't look that big. Works out, like, under a bridge, like, just punching concrete, you know, Seriously, like, looks like he's working out in, like, a war zone, essentially. And then just goes. And he's like, you know, inches shorter and visibly much smaller and much, much older. And it's in this documentary. He just, like, wrecks everybody. Cause he has this, like, unbelievable old man strength. It's just the cumulation of whatever. The documentary wasn't about a record, but it was about these different disciplines or Something like that. Just different ways of going about. Like world strongest man. Someone in the comments will fucking not only know exactly what I'm talking about, but be really offended at how poorly I just described the whole thing. But old man strength, good is the fucking moral.

[B]

Yeah, just stay in the game for a long time.

[A]

Well, that's also the Peter Attia, like outlive thing, which is like shout out to Peter, he rules. But like, you know, whatever you want to be doing in your 60s and 70s. Skiing, golf, running up the stairs, hiking, driving, stick whatever in your 30s and 40s, work on the muscles and joints that would make those activities easier. You know, like start it now especially.

[B]

He talked about, I think not on our show, but a different thing is the quick, quick reaction. Muscles really fall off as we age and there's almost nothing we can do to stop that except lifting heavy weight. That seems to help a bit. But that's why older people fall. It's just like your, your brain might go, oh, I'm falling. But your muscle can't react to. Put your foot in the right place and all that stuff.

[A]

Yeah, that makes sense. Now what happened? Ace Fraley didn't his. He just died from kiss. He died like yesterday. Okay. But I think he got a, like a brain bleed or something as a result of a, of a slip and fall.

[B]

Shit.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Wow. Terrible stalling bad.

[A]

So anyway, I'm fucking proud of myself. I have a few thousand people to brag to it. Brag about. So there we go. And speaking of me, no next weekend. Is it next weekend? Two weekends. It's November 2nd and 3rd.

[B]

Two weeks.

[A]

Two weeks. November 2nd 3rd. I will be at the Hilton Head concourse. Hilton Head, South Carolina. Be with my dad. Come say hi, hang out. Let's get a beer. I don't know if there's like a, a meetup of any kind, if anyone's doing any. If the Hilton Head car. I've never been in the Hilton Head concourse. I don't know what kind of vibe it is. The, the, the website and the photos indicate that it's a fairly traditional concourse. But who knows, maybe there's a fun like side party happening that I don't know about. After all, I do live near there. So we're gonna hang out with, with the old man. And if anyone who's listening to the show is gonna, you should go to their party. These guys are doing it.

[B]

These 75 year olds cruising and having a good time.

[A]

Yeah. So I want to see it. November 2nd is when I'm going Sunday, November 2nd. But if there's any events the day before, days before that are worth me coming to, let me know. I love, I love that part of the country. So nice. Play a little golf. Yeah, maybe I'll go to the Hilton Head concourse by boat. I'm just kidding. I already looked it up. There's no dock there.

[B]

Oh, there isn't.

[A]

It's not at a. It's not at a. It's on a golf course, but it's not a waterfront golf course.

[B]

You drop anchor and then paddle board in. Your dad would be so down.

[A]

Storm the. Have we. Have you talked about the pitch on the show?

[B]

Maybe not. I don't know. The dream.

[A]

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[B]

Yeah, I mean I should say it because because I've had this idea for 10 years so. Copyright, trademark, whatever. But my goal is to with another person dress as the dumb and dumber. You know folks, I want to wear the the colorful tuxedos and then arrive at Pebble Beach Concord by dinghy on the on the beach side storm, walk.

[A]

Up storm the beach.

[B]

You know, like in a non violent way. But yeah.

[A]

And then the key is to have passes so when they try to kick you out, you just like. You have tickets.

[B]

Yeah, we just took a non orthodox arrival. Yeah, but that's what I want to do.

[A]

Yeah, I, I mean I like that but I like wetsuit or dry suit over the tux.

[B]

That would be good.

[A]

All back off the dinghy, scuba to shore. Oh, scalp force. That was very pretty. You know, James Bond. Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun. And you know, Philip with Air Manx was like, hey, could add to this, you know, have you ever jumped out of an albatross at low altitude? Now we're just boom, boom, boom.

[B]

Now what do. What kind of gym work do we need to do to train to jump out of a moving airplane?

[A]

Like I'm, I'm in wearing scuba gear, but yeah, no, I'm not doing that.

[B]

I don't think you can do that. I mean maybe the Navy seals can, but I think even they prefer helicopters.

[A]

Listen, Ken is like.

[B]

No, you know.

[A]

I was out at. We were. I was hanging around some people this week when it's a fine, you can.

[B]

That's true. Well, the plane would land and we jump out. We wouldn't jump out while it's flying low altitude.

[A]

Or it couldn't.

[B]

This is a Batman stuff which I'm interested in.

[A]

Commando. You know, it's like that.

[B]

Well, you have to skydive out of the plane, deploy parachute and then when you're low over the water, you whatever. Unclip parachute, drop into water and then scuba in the dinghy or the dinghy.

[A]

Rolls out of the back like a C130, like a, you know, a Schwarzenegger movie.

[B]

You guide it down.

[A]

Yeah. And you, you glide it like a squirrel suit.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

You wear. It's mission. It's mission impossible. Tom Cruise will stunt coordinate you. Ride it like a squirrel suit down and then fire it up. And now we're there.

[B]

We need Pastrana. Like he has to test this.

[A]

And if he lives, we need Scotto. Get a call, a zoom call the.

[B]

Other Scotto, Pastrana, Gymkhana 9.

[A]

Tom Cruise, you know, Michael Bay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Get them all together. You know Bruckheimer. Well, we're gonna need Bruckheimer.

[B]

Honestly, not a bad way to die. Like remember the guy he squirrel suited.

[A]

Into cardboard boxes of that would you die doing.

[B]

If you don't deploy a parachute and you just trust the dinghy for slowing your fall, you're dead.

[A]

Well, Even squirrel suit. People use a parachute.

[B]

They do, yeah.

[A]

Yeah. So you do squirrel suit with the dinghy. And the last minute you.

[B]

Okay, I thought you meant you ride the dinghy like Indiana Jones. Remember that in the movie, he jumps out all, they're on a boat, and then they just happen to land on the downslope, which maybe technically would work like the gentlest thing in the world.

[A]

Dude, I freaking love the stunts in Indiana Jones because they're all, like, so clearly done in Calabasas are supposed to be, like, in the jungle. Tunisia. Dude, in last Cruise, I just was watching Last Crusade and in the hotel, like, on my trip. And dude, when they. When they fucking exit the. The zeppelin on the. In the plane, and they get into this, like, motorcycle chase, the Nazis, and they're in, like, a stolen Morgan and the motors. That whole scene is like. I'm like, was this in Thousand Oaks? Is this supposed to be in the Black Forest?

[B]

There's a Pinkberry right there.

[A]

Like, Malibu. What are you doing over here?

[B]

That's a coffee bean and tea leaf. Wait a minute.

[A]

Yeah, I love it.

[B]

And now, ironically, they film everything outside the country because it's cheaper.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Cheaper to fly. Cheaper to film Morocco than to make Thousand Oaks look like Morocco.

[A]

Snow unions now, they make. They're going to. It's all going to look. Does that look like Atlanta? Why does everything look like suburban Georgia? Yeah. So anyway, speaking of suburban Georgia, I will be at the Hilton Head concourse. You know, it's funny. I. I'm supposed to take a Panamera there from, you know, Porsche. It would be more fun if I took the 918, but those aren't good miles. Four hours highway each way. That's not good. That's not 918 miles. That stinks. Nope, that's just an uncomfortable, loud car for four hours. It is, yeah.

[B]

Panamera will be way better for.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't even know which Panamera. I said, whichever one's laying around. They're all comfy.

[B]

What a good death trap. Look at this belly tanker.

[A]

Yeah, belly tankers. Them shits is dangerous. So, anyway, I'll be there. And then if you're a watch nerd like me and you're in Los Angeles on November 8th, I will be appearing and doing a panel at the Grand Seiko. I don't think there's a website for this yet, Zach. At the grand Seiko GS9 event. Like, GS9 is their owner's club. If you get a. If you become a member or you can enroll if you buy one of their watches. And is it on the calendar?

[B]

Nope.

[A]

November. All right, November.

[B]

They're behind.

[A]

Yeah, they haven't added yet. I just got booked the gig yesterday, so, you know, look out for it. It's. I, I don't want to say where it is in case they, they haven't published it. I don't want to put them up there spot, you know what I mean? But it was really fun two years ago. If you want to come this year, it's really cool. You get to see all the newest shit. They do like Japanese whiskey tastings. There's like watchmakers. You get to meet some really, really interesting people and it's fun. It's a good time. Good sushi, as expected. So anyway, that's going on. Should we talk about my free car? Should we talk about the last two nights of car events here in LA or something else?

[B]

Let's do, let's do the car events and then we'll do free car.

[A]

Okay. All right.

[B]

Ping pong.

[A]

Okay. So last night was Larry Chen's type S event in Long Beach. Formula D. Did you post pictures on your Instagram?

[B]

I put them on my story.

[A]

Your stories, do they still exist? It's yo story, so I hope they do. You're right. You were right there. You were on the top of the list already. It was cool. They took over a parking garage like full on JDM style. Hot boy Larry was selling books. There was a lot of people.

[B]

So many people. They said 10,000 people came through and it felt like 3,000 were there while we were there. We got there. We were there from 7, 8, 30, I think.

[A]

But like a couple trends. I noticed Street Glow is very much back.

[B]

Oh, for sure.

[A]

I didn't, I didn't know this. I haven't, I haven't. Guess I haven't been in like the scene enough. But like Street Glow is really back.

[B]

I think it's a lot of Type S's business or a portion of it for sure is LED lighting for cars.

[A]

Yeah. So that there's.

[B]

That.

[A]

I did not see so many Supras, but I did see a ton of Skylines. Lots of skylines.

[B]

That's true. They were only. I remember seeing.

[A]

Yes, there were a lot of, A lot of new.

[B]

So many new. Super. I think there were three or four Mark 4 Supras. But this is a rare time where the skylines outnumber them 10 to 1.

[A]

Yeah, for sure. A lot of cool Hondas. That one, dude. That one Si that we saw, that wasn't Even in the show when we're leaving that, that blue one, the 2000si.

[B]

Oh yeah.

[A]

Oh, that was fabulous. And of course Larry was just like crushing it. I said, I saw, I saw Vin, I saw Ryan Turk, I saw Jerry d' Ando is down there. I know, I know. Sung Kang was down there do it. Promoting his Drifter movie. But he was like, bro, he was mobbed.

[B]

Well, they did a. I don't know if it's happening. When we were there, I guess him and Jared and some other folks did like a fireside chat.

[A]

Yeah, they did. It was while we were walking.

[B]

So that's why there was this huge crowd just gathered. We couldn't even tell what they were looking at. There were so many.

[A]

We were trying to walk around like while those guys weren't doing that. How crazy the rest of the show would have been if all those people weren't very packed there. Yeah, super packed. And it was free. I mean I don't know about showing a car but certainly getting in as.

[B]

A, as a pedestrian for showing it. They said first hundred cars that arrived were free and then any car that arrived after that at like 4pm had to pay the. Just the normal parking garage rate.

[A]

Oh, oh yeah. Because the.

[B]

Yeah, whatever that is.

[A]

Because that garage is probably free during the day and costs money at night.

[B]

Maybe. Yeah.

[A]

But it was rad. I mean it was a really. It was very much as close as you could get, I would say to doing a true, like a JDM style parking garage show.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like in LA for sure. The background isn't quite the same as Tokyo, but like. But the background is very much Vice City. So this long beach port like that is like the background.

[B]

It was effectively the same. I mean I like, I think the selection of cars was pretty cool. It was mostly Japanese cars, very few European cars. Like I saw one new Camaro, one old Nova and that crazy square body truck. Yeah, that was a Magnuson sponsored Magnuson supercharger build. I think that was it.

[A]

That.

[B]

Oh, and then the Mustang.

[A]

Yeah, I mean I saw one JDM modified Porsche, like a 997 convertible that like was modified as if it was an Eclipse, which not hating but that's like that's how I. Right. Isn't that how you would describe it?

[B]

Oh man. It was very much a third gen Eclipse convertible.

[A]

Yeah, but it was a Porsche.

[B]

It was a Porsche. Yeah. There's something. The way they lowered it, the way they stretched the fenders. It just changed the proportions.

[A]

It turned it into an Eclipse. Yeah. And I saw like two BMWs. Yeah. I mean, mostly Japanese stuff, which is maybe one or two Volkswagens. Like a little green Rabbit with.

[B]

What was the license plate? What's up, Doc? What's up Doc was great. Yeah, there was some cool stuff. That Miata we saw that had. What is that body called?

[A]

The coupe body. The full coupe body looks so good.

[B]

Yeah, that's probably. That's just a fun thing that's having your British roadster.

[A]

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[B]

Yeah, we saw it was on.

[A]

All right, if you. All right, so for those. If anyone's, like, listening live and has it, it was an NB Miata with a. With a full fastback rear conversion. Right. I wouldn't do coupe. I would say NB Miata fastback. That's probably what that'll get us. That's it. Isn't that it?

[B]

Is that basically.

[A]

That's basically the car.

[B]

Yeah. CCP Fabrication fastback top.

[A]

Yeah. Okay. That's. Yeah. I think that looks awesome.

[B]

Looks really good.

[A]

It looks like. Dude. And the one that we saw at the show, that had a bit of a different nose on it. It almost had, like, little mini Aston Martin vibes, like a little mini D7. It was pretty pimp, actually.

[B]

This looks exactly like the car.

[A]

Yeah. I wonder if we could build one of those where the seat is far enough. That would be the kind of, like, race car I would like, like endurance race car. Just because it looks awesome.

[B]

I'm down. I think it looked. We. We stood there, I think, the longest of any of the cars there. We just were like, huh, that's pretty. Even from this angle.

[A]

That's good.

[B]

From this angle also good.

[A]

Pretty good. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, I like that.

[A]

And the one in the show. This. Yeah. Oh, look at this one.

[B]

This is unpainted.

[A]

I think this one's unpainted. But also he's got the fastback on, but with without. Maybe it's got a removable targa roof also.

[B]

Oh, did the look.

[A]

This guy's got a targa roof taken off, which is pretty slick.

[B]

It's from Panos. I don't know what that is.

[A]

It's pretty cool, though. I really like it.

[B]

Yeah, me too.

[A]

That's fun. So that was a good event. And then we also went to race service to check out the new rtrs, one of which I found. I thought it was coming yesterday. It's coming next Sunday.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So which we're gonna be storing it while it's in LA here at Westside. But actually, Zach and I will get to. Yeah, that's the one from car and driver. Get to make a video with it. But this is the new four cylinder one which is kind of cool. It's like an EcoBoost. And it gets big brakes from the GT Performance Pack. It gets some, like, different chassis things from the Dark Horse. It's got the drift brake programming, and it's an EcoBoost. So I actually am kind of stoked to drive this. I haven't driven an EcoBoost Mustang since, like 2017 at all, I think.

[B]

Me too. I think we rented one for something a long time ago.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I wonder how much lighter it is. Like, how much lighter. Look it up. How much lighter the EcoBoost Mustang is.

[A]

I don't know. It's probably pretty light. The last time I drove one, I was like, okay. But it wasn't. It wasn't that interesting. JR seemed pretty stoked on this one, though. And then he's also got one that's 810 horsepower, which is the GT based one with a Whipple on it. And then there's this other crazy one that's coming out that. That really looks a lot like the RTR with the. With like a crazy wide body on it. It doesn't have inboard suspension the way the RTR does, but. But it has sort of the same aesthetic and a lot of power and other things.

[B]

Quick. Google says the EcoBoost Mustang should weigh 150 to 200 pounds less than a.

[A]

GT in the nose.

[B]

Equivalent. Oh, yeah. So with equivalent equipment. So that can make it feel pretty interesting in the corner. I don't know.

[A]

I bet if you put square stance on one, I bet it would turn in, like, real nice.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So that's pretty cool. The party was fun. At race service, they had the In N Out truck out there. I swear, the In N Out truck burgers, maybe because it was just so close from the grill to my hand were like, better than in a restaurant.

[B]

I agree. I don't really like In N Out. I do not go to the restaurant voluntarily ever. But I was hungry there. But that burger, maybe I was hungry. It just hit the spot and I was like, this is pretty solid.

[A]

I will only eat In n Out on the road as like a kind of an only option. And I will not. I don't get the fries.

[B]

Yeah, they're terrible.

[A]

It's like pasta limp. You have to watch Carl's In N Out review from when he came out to LA and we took him to In n Out. His In N Out review is so spot on. It's still on YouTube. It's amazing. I probably watch it once a year. And he nailed it so much And I Now I just get what he said to get based on his. And he was right. You get. You'd skip the fries and you either get double. Double animal style and a vanilla shake or two single cheese cheeseburgers, animal style and a vanilla shake. That's the move.

[B]

I'll watch that video. His restaurant. I was gonna say takedowns. Analyses are very funny.

[A]

No, they're not takedowns. I think he's incredibly complimentary to restaurants that somebody of his comedic caliber could easily shit on. But because he's a fucking. A back of house kind of guy, there's a lot of things he said that Olive Garden did. Well, there was things he liked at Applebee's. There's things he liked. I mean, he said that about McDonald's. Like, any chef in the world would kill to make fries like this. Stuff like that. He also said that the. The in the. About the filet o fish, that it tastes like the. Tasted like the fish volunteered to be in this sandwich, which is kind of crazy funny.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

But, yeah, no, but his. Also his. His when he shits on something, it's brutal. So it's really fun, right? So the RTR thing was awesome. The cars seem pretty cool. Can't wait to. Can't wait to drive them. Yeah, JR is fun.

[B]

The 800 horsepower one, I just like the wing on it looked good. The color choice was good. They just. They put the right parts on there, man.

[A]

Yeah, it was nice. Okay, so I got a free car. And I have. I finally brought photos of it so I can actually talk about it. And bear in mind, this is. This is the. This is gonna be the. The before of a. Of a project car. So start with that second row. The last. The last one down there. Yeah. So. Oh.

[B]

That'S weird. Standby.

[A]

Boo. So Hannah's. Hannah's aunt and uncle, Aunt Liz and Uncle Phil. She has an Uncle Phil wanted to get rid of their 1994 Mercedes E320 cabriolet. And when I was a kid and these were new, do you know that this car in 1994, unadjusted for inflation, was $85,000.

[B]

Unadjusted.

[A]

Unadjusted. This was an $85,000 car in 1994. These things were insanely expensive. They were essentially the price of sls. Wow. Yeah. And so they were like, when I was growing up, like, rich people drove these things, and I always thought they were kind of cool. Biggie Smalls rolled one of these in Brooklyn in one of the videos. And obviously I Mean today, you know, not much to look at, right? It's a whatever 1, 2, 4 cab. You see them around. No exceptions. But I thought this one is. It's two owners and it's. But Aunt Liz and Uncle Phil have had it for like 12 years. 13 years. And it's only 60,000 miles. But it sat outside in their house in Florida for the last couple years under like a carport but pretty much outside. Runs, drives okay. But it's pretty scruffy. So we were talking to. And you can scroll through the red. It's red, which is nice. I mean red is a good color. I think it does need to be repainted, but I don't think there's. I don't think it needs a color change.

[B]

Adjusted for inflation, thanks to the chat, is 185. So that is. And I'm looking right now at Mercedes convertibles to see what they sell. That is.

[A]

No, you need an SL63 to get that much. Yeah, they don't sell in a four.

[B]

Yeah. The SL 63 starts at 187.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And an SL 53 or they don't make. The SL 43 starts at 112. This is.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Very.

[A]

This is. This was an expensive car. So I mean we just sold it Westside, a pretty good one for like $25,000. A good one is 25 grand. This one I could probably get seven or eight for as it sits as a project. But I don't want to do that. So I was talking to Shant of CMS Motorsports who's fucking amg. The guy, he's nuts. I mean he's. Their, their bodywork is beautiful, but also he's nuts. And so we were thinking of doing a fun cruiser project and I said I want to make the. This is the same chassis as the E500. I said I want to make the E500. That never. And that never existed. He's like, oh, done. Easy, easy. So if we don't have to color change, that's great. But basically we get a complete 500 powertrain with a 5 speed automatic. You can get the E500 OEM suspension or aftermarket suspension. You get some nice wheels. You do the front clip the entire front fenders, nose, you get OEM. Mercedes E500 goes right on the doors are the doors. You don't need to change the rear three quarters. You have to make from these. But they're like no problem because we don't want it. It's not a. It's a wide body. It's not a wide body. It's like, just like the E500. Like, subtle. And then you do the rear. E500, rear rear bumper, and then you're essentially done. And look, our rear bumper's fucking.

[B]

It's got a hole in it.

[A]

Yeah, it's got a fucking hole in it. The front bumper does, too. So, like, fortunately, the panels that we would keep are in really good shape. And the panels that we're throwing away. We're fucking throwing away the power it runs and drives. It actually, it drives better than it looks, but we're throwing all that away. Or, you know, maybe we'll sell the engine, sell the gearbox, but basically throw it away. And the inter. Go to the interior. The interior is complete. Not terrible, actually.

[B]

Yeah. Your dashboard is not cracked.

[A]

The dashboard's not cracked. The. The wood isn't totally. The steering wheel is in okay shape, but we would re. Trim, essentially everything. Like some crazy.

[B]

We would do crazy color.

[A]

Crazy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It would be fun. You know, SoCal. SoCal good time. It's red, black, leather. Put a cool stereo in it. I don't know if the E500 had different seats from the regular, but. But whatever it is, we're made, do the right ones. The top works, which is great. That's fucking, though. If the top didn't work, that could be problematic. So pretty sure we can do this project reasonably economically using this car.

[B]

Sorry.

[A]

Oh, yeah. I think they're the same.

[B]

I don't think they look pretty much the same.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Well, actually, the bolsters look different.

[A]

Really? Maybe the backs are different.

[B]

I think they have. I think the E500 had slightly more bolstering on both the seat and the back.

[A]

Well, we're. I mean, we. You know, I kind of. I really like the Euro Recaros of that period that everybody was doing, too. Like, that could be fun.

[B]

That'd be random.

[A]

And also. And, you know, my. My stupid back. A good seat is important.

[B]

Have to have a good seat.

[A]

So we. I would take out this. This weird, you know, this, like, not tough did. But the. Oh, yeah. What do you. What do you call that?

[B]

I don't.

[A]

It's like Porsche's. Porsche. They call it, like, luxury leather or something. I hate it.

[B]

That's the perfect description of it because that's what it's trying to be. It's just like, look, we added leather here.

[A]

It's. When the leather's not. It's not loose, but it's, like soft and wavy.

[B]

It's. It looks like a curtain Hanging across a stage.

[A]

Yes. And exactly.

[B]

It's draped.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Looks exactly like the curtain.

[A]

Curtain. Get. That's gotta go. And you get the tartan.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, the. You do bus fabric or you. Some crab. It would look amazing. Ditch the burl wood. Replace that with something fun. You know, it'd be so fun if you replace the bra wood with like. Like acrylic. Like the shift knob in the Manx, but like, with like a scene in it.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Like, like a comic type thing. Yeah, type thing. That'd be cool. Like a diorama. Yeah, acrylic diorama that's like, you know, quarter inch thick.

[A]

Right. So anyway, like, you know, a little cruiser. So this is not. The driver's seat's pretty. If this photo, when you show the passenger seat first, it makes the interior look better than it is. And when you show the driver's se. It makes the interior look worse than it is.

[B]

Yeah. It looks like the skin of a person who lived in the desert for 80 years. You're missing a knob on the left side of the driver's side backrest.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

There's a cut in the back itself.

[A]

Yeah. There's air in it.

[B]

It's.

[A]

The driver's seat is no bueno. We don't. We don't. I mean, it could probably be repaired. It probably doesn't need to be thrown away, but like, you. But anyway, I, you know, I think a. You know, I think a cool. A cool cruiser for a little while could be fun.

[B]

Well, this is kind of. You can make a comfortable Manx more comfortable. Like, truly. You know, Manx has no windows.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

And if you can do this with whimsy and stuff, but it has windows and a locking trunk. Yeah. That kind of thing.

[A]

And we looked up the hard top. Were you. Were you. Didn't we do it together?

[B]

Yeah. It looks good.

[A]

It looks amazing.

[B]

It's very good.

[A]

Sean said they're really hard to find and they're really expensive.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

That most, almost none of them were sold in America. Wow. You got to get them from Europe, and then it's like ship them and who fucking knows? So.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Not. I. I probably not worth it, because what happens is you put the hard top on. You still have to, like, exercise the convertible top anyway and then take the thing off.

[B]

You have to store the top. Well, I mean, space isn't.

[A]

I asked. I said, what if we, like, get rid of the top entirely and make like a Speedster Tonneau, you know, like a two. Like two door it and he was like, you mean like chop the wheelbase? I was like, no, no, but like make a. Make a.

[B]

Fill it in.

[A]

Yeah, fill it in. Something.

[B]

I don't know with that. Well, it's got a back seat, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So that cover might be so long that the proportions would look.

[A]

That's true. It would.

[B]

Like let's go. You know, you'd be a big tonneau.

[A]

It would look weird. You know how it would look awesome is if you put the front seats in the back seats. Seats and just extended everything rearward to give it like a super long nose. Like an Excalibur.

[B]

You know what? I actually take it back because long buttresses look better than short ones. And so if the buttress went from like here to here and wasn't too tall.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't know. We need someone. Someone's got a Photoshop.

[A]

Photoshop that. Yeah.

[B]

It's a bold idea though. You know what you're doing? You're building your. The. The German version of the SN95 speedster thing. You want. That's what you're doing?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Wanna paint yellow, do you?

[A]

No, I don't like. I don't want yellow. Do you like this red or should we go for a different red? Because we. You. Cuz it. Cuz the thing is with the color change, it's like the door jambs and the engine bay and shit. So. So like. But we could change the red without really having to paint the door jams and the engine bay. It wouldn't look that stupid.

[B]

That's true. I think, I think I need to see it polished up.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because like here it's got a little pink to it. Here it's more red red. You know, firetruck red from the front it's got a little pink from the rear. Three quarter.

[A]

Once upon a time this thing was fire truck red. It's that awesome red. That Mercedes that. A Mercedes from that period that's painted that color today. That's really good. It brings a lot more money. It's a popular color.

[B]

It's a very seen on SLS a lot.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Then I think maybe it polishes up really nice because painting the car.

[A]

Oh, we have to paint the car.

[B]

You have to paint the car anyway.

[A]

Oh yeah. It's just a matter of like. But painting it the same color is way cheaper than changing the color. Yes, that's what I mean. I think the color is fine. I would keep the color.

[B]

I would too. You know he's hitting your engine bay. I mean There's a reason my engine bay is blue.

[A]

Yeah, it's really expensive. Yeah. But we're taking the engine out anyway.

[B]

Oh, that's true.

[A]

Yeah. The engine's coming out anyway.

[B]

I mean, look, it's.

[A]

I think the color. I think if we paint it the good red.

[B]

Yeah, it.

[A]

Look, it'll look good.

[B]

Then that's what matters. Like, it's what you want. And if. I'm not saying I don't like this color, I'm saying it's what. It's literally what you want. The engine's out. I mean, it's no better time. But the red is a great red. The Mercedes red looks awesome. Looks like any good bright red. So keep it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Nothing wrong with it. And then it's more period. Correct. Otherwise, I think you have to go crazy. Mint chocolate. Like, you know, mint green. Something sexual chocolate.

[A]

Purple would be.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Or brb. What's black? And, you know, we might change the color of the interior. I don't know. I don't know. Sky's the limit.

[B]

Got a lot of decisions, but this.

[A]

Is a next year project because we have. We have to, you know, free up some finances first. It's not. This isn't. This is going to be a. This one will be a what? But. But anyway, Car has arrived.

[B]

Spent Hannah's money that she just got.

[A]

Yeah, right, baby. You get to get the front yard.

[B]

She fought for it for two years. And you're like, I'll take that. Thank you.

[A]

Were you there when I told Zuckerman that she was. Zuckerman gave up the willow spangs with Spike in them. And I was like, zuckerman, guess what? Hannah won her case. You know, she beat Elon. You know, all this, you know, I'm so proud of her. And he goes, you know, half of that's yours. I was like. I was like, oh, yeah. He's like, communal property.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

He's like, you supported her when she was out.

[B]

I was like, so funny. It depends on the terms of your. Your prenup, but, yeah, that's funny.

[A]

That's fucking cold.

[B]

I do that with Sarah a lot where she'll like. She's like, can I have some of your water? I go, well, half of it's yours.

[A]

Yeah. But I think this will be. I think this will be a fun. A fun one to freight train around in.

[B]

Totally.

[A]

You know?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And SEAN says the E500 complete E500 powertrain costs nothing.

[B]

What do you think about air suspension?

[A]

I think a lot about air suspension. On this car. I think this is an example where air suspension is definitely warranted.

[B]

Yes. Because then you get.

[A]

I do things that. Yeah.

[B]

Park it. Look good. Yep. Just drop it.

[A]

Yeah. I also think it's an example where hydraulics are warranted.

[B]

If we wanted to make it bounce.

[A]

I've always kind of wanted to do those.

[B]

Ride like garbage. Like, there's. When they. When you're going down the road.

[A]

That's no good. Yeah. So cool. Yeah, buddy. I'm very excited for this free Benzito, I think.

[B]

Keep it red. Just the thought of pulling out all these seams to paint the door jams.

[A]

Yeah, I don't mind. I like red. Red's fun.

[B]

Me too.

[A]

Red on Mercedes is good. That's like. That's.

[B]

That's.

[A]

That's good. That's fucking. I made it red.

[B]

That's so funny, because then if someone gets a red Ferrari, which is like the most. I made it red in the world, people are like.

[A]

Because they're all red. If all the Mercedes were red, then it would be boring. All the Mercedes are black and silver. So red is good.

[B]

That's true. Right? Dare to be different, children. Awesome. Yeah.

[A]

Yep. All right, cool. So, free car. That's fine.

[B]

Free car.

[A]

Let's go to the people. Unless. Do you have anything else we need to cover today?

[B]

I don't think. No, we're at 45 minutes.

[A]

No, I'm happy to go to the people because they have a lot to say. The Patreons, we love them over there. Patreon.com the Smoking Tire podcast. It's how you listen to the live stream. It's how you get the show before anybody else. It's how you get the show without ads. It's how you contribute to the show with questions. It's how you get to have us read off the funny names as you made. And it's how you get early and exclusive access to collabs and such. Oh, speaking of collabs and such, the notice. The next notice project is on the way. It's. It's happening. It's in process designs. But on a recent episode, I teased the possibility of doing one more color of the canyon, which we're gonna do. It won't be available until March. That's like. That's. Which probably means April, but so. Which is good because it is a summer. A spring summer color. It's not a fall winter color. Anyway, so if you hadn't gotten one of the watches and you want a color that is very much me and approved by all of my friends that I've showed it to so far who've said they want one. Prepare. Prepare yourself.

[B]

Have I seen this color?

[A]

Yes, I think. No, I don't know actually, if you've seen it. Have you seen all the colors? I thought.

[B]

I thought. Well, I. You made the. I don't want to. I don't want to say. You made this one, right? Yeah.

[A]

Don't blow it up.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But I'll. But I'll show it to you.

[B]

All right.

[A]

Anyway, so there is another color coming, and it is going to be very fun, and I am very excited, but all the other colors are fully sold out.

[B]

Oh, I've seen it. It looks good.

[A]

Oh, yeah. It's the one that's not up there and not the one I gave to my mom.

[B]

Yeah, I think so. Anyway.

[A]

Okay. Dakar. All the Porsches. Should I get a sports car, even though I live in a place. Wait, can you make it zoom in a little? Zach. Should I get a sports car even though I live in a place with mostly open highway and straight arterial roads? Florida. I'm struggling to balance what I want versus what makes the most sense for where I live. Tough call. And I hear you. Let me just say Floridians don't seem to have much trouble with this.

[B]

Sports cars everywhere.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, look, you can still enjoy a sports car on highways. You know, maybe you can't enjoy it as much as if there's corners, but like a 911 or a Corvette or a Ferrari 296 or a Cayman is still a lovely thing on a highway.

[B]

And so much of it is about how you feel. Walking out to it, getting in, starting it, driving down, just knowing you're in this thing that you like a lot.

[A]

Yeah. And like, sports car is a big world. Like, maybe you should get a GT car. Maybe you should get a front engine sports car that's more for highways. I mean, maybe instead of a Ferrari 458, you get an F12 or something like that. Maybe instead, so you look at a gt, a Bentley GT or something where that'll. That'll make sense for the kind of driving that you're doing. More so than a twisty, you know, a Miata on highway. I would. I would say probably don't do that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, if you're talking about like a little four cylinder, slow car, fast type, I don't know why I keep doing. Putting my glass back on. Slow car, fast type car. Like, nah, muscle car, you know, Mustang Camaro. There's a highway car Vipers, highway car, Corvette, front engine, Corvettes, rear engine, Corvettes, mid engine, Corvettes, whatever. Highway cars. Like those are all fine.

[B]

Mm.

[A]

Yeah, Busch did 997. Got married last weekend. Congratulations. Wife gifted me the Rolex Oyster Perpetual. That is fucking superb. Your wife has great taste. This is my foray into nice watch ownership. Can you give me a rundown on best practices? Wow, best practices. Okay, let's assume the watch is brand new. I assume it's brand new. You have a five year warranty. Rolexes are my favorite watches because they're so durable you can abs. You can wear that watch every day, even if you're a fucking construction worker for the rest of your life. Like that's what, that's why they cost so much money. And that's been my experience with them. You can treat them really badly and it's fine and in fact makes them better. So my first best practice is wear that motherfucker. Don't store it away in a box just to keep it shiny. If it really is, you know, it's a hard thing to do. But like, if it gets scratched, like, okay, whatever, fucking move on. Live your life. Like one day you'll have a kid and you'll be able to tell the story of that scratch and they'll want the watch because of that scratch. Servicing. This is a very easy to service watch. Do not get it serviced every five years. Wear it until it stops keeping good time and then get it serviced. Parts availability is not an issue. Just, you'll probably get 10 years, 12 years before it starts running a little funny. You take it in, you get it, service, whatever. And for cleaning it, if you wear it a lot, you do want to clean it. Hand soap, like liquid hand soap and an old soft toothbrush, both sides, in between. Wear it in the shower once in a while, get some shampoo up in.

[B]

There.

[A]

Nothing to it. Absolutely. Wear it, beat the absolute shit out of it and enjoy. And congratulations on getting married. Waymo. Handjobs from women. I hardly know. What other automotive journalist has the most influence on your opinions. Have you ever formed an opinion about a car and had a conversation with another journalist and then change your mind about it on the next drive? Interesting question, Zach. Do you have one?

[B]

I think it's, it's definitely happened. I'm just trying to remember in a specific example, like, I know there's been times where I've disliked something about a car. Talked to someone who, I trust their opinion and they go, I, you know, maybe they entered the corner like this or they pointed out something I don't know. And then I go, okay. And just approach it differently. And they went, oh yeah, that's true.

[A]

Yeah. I once, I once told Chris Harris that something couldn't be done in a car. And then he proved to me that actually it could. I just wasn't good enough at driving and okay. You know. And so to a certain degree, I trust what Chris has to say about cars. Having said that, you know, Chris talks about a lot about what cars are like beyond the limit. If you can't drive like that, that may not apply to you at all. So nobody is gospel. So like. But when I'm listening, when I'm hearing opinions from other people about cars, I'm usually paying attention to the people that I know are really fast. If you're really fast. And we're at dinner at the press launch and I'm listening to here, if we end up in the same place, actually less so the fucking me, less so the other journalists than the racing drivers. You know, you go to fucking Spain, you believe you me, at dinner I am sitting my ass down next to Jord Bergmeister and I am not getting up like, you know what I mean? That's where you want to be. Or like, if you're lucky enough to sit down next to like the head of chassis development, definitely, or something like that, man, can you learn some shit. So like, that's where I've had my mind changed more by the engineer that developed the system I was questioning than by another journalist.

[B]

I feel like it goes, it ping pongs like, because sometimes I'm skeptical that, you know, the engineer of course is going to paint the brightest picture. And they're going to say, well, we did this because we did this because we did this. But you can definitely learn a lot from talking to them. Of course. Like when I sat next to the head engineer for the ZR2 Bison Edition and he pulled a fucking shock valve out of his pocket and he's like, here's the 15 things in this valve we can change. I was blown away. It was so cool to see what they could do. That was very educational, know, but I.

[A]

Mean, if they want, if you want me to name people, Chris, Jethro, Andrew Frankel, they're all British.

[B]

I trust Jack a lot because they do a lot of track testing. He's a good driver.

[A]

Me, me and Jack agree a lot on stuff. Although he's a little less generous than me. He's a little, he's a little, he's a little bit of a harsher critic sometimes, which is funny because he also makes, you know, films that are in participation with the OEMs, you know, more than I do. So that's a fine line to dance, but we're going to be together on 911 Turbo launch. But yeah, he's a very good driver.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

For sure. Sergeant Macaroni, Rolex watchmaker here. All right. I bought the Canyon Black Pearl and I'm super impressed with the dial and fit and finish on the watch after working on only Rolex figures. Now that is such a nice compliment. Thank you very much for saying that. I'm really glad you're impressed by it. Unrelated question, do we have any plans of reviewing the Honda Passport Trail Sport? Can you get a photo of that?

[B]

Sure.

[A]

I mean, dude, honestly, like I wouldn't do it for a video. Nobody would watch it. But that's not to say that I wouldn't grab one for a few days and hit the trail just to see how it goes. And for like Instagram, like I would do that. Does it have like real off road capability or is it just like some knobbies? Increase cloud currents, improve ride angle. Does it have.

[B]

Huh. Just their tagline of the lows on.

[A]

Calling it slow is overselling a lot heavier than before. Not that practical. Well, car and driver was not impressed. But I mean I would have a go. I would have a go. Is it, is it a V6? It's the V6. God, that thing is chugging along, huh? Three and a half liter V6, 285 horsepower.

[B]

Now with ten hundred pounds.

[A]

They just keep adding gears. Now it's got 10 gears.

[B]

They just keep adding 4,800 pounds with 285 horsepower.

[A]

Yeah, it's not, not fast.

[B]

I don't. Yeah, but we, we could try and take it up the hill. Wait, which, what transmissions in this thing?

[A]

10 speed automatic. Okay, but it's tr. Is it a transverse or is it, is it a. Is it longitudinal? If this has got a Haldex fucking gearbox, dude, it's not gonna be good at off roading. I mean it doesn't necessarily have to be, but I wouldn't buy that trail sport thing with those tires for like on road use. Like that's just not going to be as nice to drive as regular tires.

[B]

Standard all wheel drive, torque vectoring, rear diff. I don't know. We can try it.

[A]

All right, well I'll. We'll try, we'll call, we'll call Honda. I'll make a note. We'll call Honda for you.

[B]

We'll say, hey, Honda, Sergeant Macaroni who?

[A]

We'll start it like a Top Gear segment. We've gotten a letter from Sergeant Macaroni. Passport, Trail sport. All right, we'll find, we'll find some dirt. Rolex, LT Lariat. King Ranch for a daily driver driven on twisty roads. For my commute in the Catskills, should I get dedicated summer and winter tires or all weather like Michelin Cross climate? Dude, if your budget can do summer and winter, you should also like my daily for a daily that is driven on twisty roads. Like, if your daily is just is like a.

[B]

Honda Accord.

[A]

A Honda Accord and you don't have to drive below freezing very often. I mean, the Catskills, you probably do. The thing about winter tires and the Catskills, if it doesn't need to be snowy, if it's cold, you're gonna have summer tire grip with your winter tires, even if it's dry.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like driving on winter tires in the cold is so awesome.

[B]

The rubber like is softer at that temperature. It spreads out. It grips the ground better. And summer tires will do the opposite effect. When it's too cold, they're very hard. They, they slip a lot more. It's not a good time.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

I mean there's, you can look this up on Tirek or somewhere. Like there's a, there's a temperature window, you know, that tires operate in and that they are safe at. I think PS4 is, it's down to like 45 or something. It's pretty low, which is good. But if you're driving below that, they'll be very hard and very slippery.

[A]

Yeah, I would. Yeah, that's all we got on that. But Stew Dog, this is a tough question, okay. And I'm going to read the question and try to answer the question. But for anyone listening, if you plan on asking a question like this in the future, I do need a little more info in order to really be helpful. My dad finally wants to invest in a nice watch for himself. A one and done watch for a man in his late 50s. What do you recommend? Budget, $6,000 range. I've been steering him towards Omega, Tudor and Grand Seiko. This is a, that's a great budget for a one and done watch. You're getting a, you're going to get a Swiss or very high end Japanese watch or medium high end German watch. It's the kind of watch that will last forever. You can get something that looks great with every outfit. I assume that's what you mean by one and done. So you're probably talking about something that is in the general genre of what I'm wearing right now, which is the Grand Seiko bamboo dial 40 millimeter steel Sport watch that can handle some water resistance, that can handle T shirt and jeans working outside, that can go good with a sport jacket all the way up to just below. Tuxedo, that's pretty, you know, tuxedo, you don't really want to. If you're really fancy, you don't want to even wear a steel Rolex. That's leather strap and thin and all that fancy shit. But like six grand you're starting with Omega, Tudor and Grand Seiko, bro. Right in the wheelhouse. But there's a bunch of other shit too. There's Cartier, there's Panerai, there's any number of. There's, there's, there's going to be like, I don't know if you can get, you might be able to get into some Zenith. You can probably get into a bunch of Oris and Chris Ward. And like there's so many companies sell like that's, that five is where like Omega, Tudor and Grand Seiko start to get interesting. But that's also like the very high end of those brands right below that's like. So the question is, do you want to get the watch equivalent of a, let's call it a Honda Accord? Okay. Fully loaded, the extended leather, the good wheels, all everything, bells and whistles. You got a $35,000 car, you've optioned it up to 48.5, the high end fully loaded Chevy. Or do you want to get an entry level Lexus that doesn't have special wheels and it doesn't have special paint and that's kind of the comparison. So like Omega, Tudor and Grand Seiko. Sounds like you want an entry level Lexus, totally cool. And start there and just see what he likes looking at on his wrist. I mean that's kind of from there it's like what feels good, what looks good, you know, does he have a big wrist, a small wrist? Does he like fucking green or black or blue or blah blah blah blah. But you're going in the right direction. Alternatively you could go in the other direction and go Bell and Ross, Bauman, Mercier, Mont Blanc, these other type of like Longines, like entry level Swiss brands and you could buy the very top of that. Maybe Breitling. Breitling. You get a Breitling for five grand, that'll last you a long time. If He's a navy or pilot type. Yeah. A lot of options at that price point, though. You're really shopping at that price point. Actually. There's, like, so many options at that price point that I see how one could have trouble choosing. Like every Swiss company that isn't Rolex makes a watch at that price.

[B]

And they all make, you know, three dial watches, whatever they're called. Like, all chronograph.

[A]

Everyone's got a.

[B]

Everyone's like, what does he like?

[A]

Like, every company has, like, their version of the Royal X Oyster Perpetual, like the three hander. Blah, blah, Omeg, aqua, terra, blah, blah, blah. Same shit. Christian says. Could you do a video with Doug swapping each other's cars or a collab Countach video? We're going to. We talked about this, and then my car got taken apart. So, like, when my car is back.

[B]

Together, like we are, they'd feel very different now.

[A]

They'd feel very different now. Well, he also wants to know. He wants to see mine after the full bushings and everything is done. And also his is a carbureted car. Mine's an injected car. No, I would totally do a video, a countach video with. With Doug. It's just that my car has been in pieces for fucking years. Did you. Oh, did you go back to the photos of the red Mercedes? Did you see the Countach in the background?

[B]

Yeah, it got.

[A]

We put it over in the other building because it's going. Yeah, there it is. We put it in the other building because it's going to Damien's, like, soon. Is it in any of the other photos? I don't think it made.

[B]

I don't think so, though.

[A]

The. Is there a front. A front on photo? Did I get one? No, no. Oh, there it is. It's back there. For the record, for anyone looking at this, I have to say for the record, these photos are. There are zero customer cars in those photos. Those are not customer cars. Those are my staff's cars.

[B]

Yeah. Is this Vinnie?

[A]

Yes, that's Vinnie's daily driver. Yeah. Those are staff cars. Okay. That's Phil's truck. Yeah. And that fucking. That silver. That's a Ferrari 550. That got picked up. It was literally there because it was getting picked up today. That's my new building that I haven't started renovating yet. But because. Because me fucking. I want to sell the spaces and all my shit ends up. Yeah.

[B]

Does that make sense?

[A]

Goes in there. I can't wait till the new building where I. It's so Funny, it's like the fisherman on the dock where I'm gonna have my own area. I could have just had my own like seven years ago. I could have just bought a little tiny building and had my own area. Instead I gotta have this giant fucking thing, a whole operation just so I can have my own area. Finally. It's crazy in a Boxster to the left getting rid of my Z4M40 manual after it got into an accident and somehow barely affected the value. Hell motherfucking yeah. Cut and run. I ordered a Ranger Raptor as I wanted something more practical. And there aren't many good roads in Florida for driving, but there are good trails. Any other vehicles you'd think of for the money? I need something respectable to pick up clients every once in a while. I mean, dude, Ranger Raptors are cool.

[B]

Yeah, it's very comfortable.

[A]

Yeah, you're only like. Your competition is like a TRD Pro, you know, or I guess maybe a Defender.

[B]

I mean, I don't know how your clients feel out there, but I think a Ranger Raptor, when you keep them clean is a totally nice modern car inside and is respectable enough. I mean, if these are super high net worth people, I mean, they might have one anyway for like a ranch truck, who knows? I don't know. That's a. That's a weird question because a Defender is fancier, so it depends on the optics. Yeah, you're not a real estate agent.

[A]

So I mean.

[B]

And how often do you drive these folks around? Like how much are you going to change your purchasing and what you want in a vehicle for something that's occasional?

[A]

Yeah, I think, I think there's nothing. I think a Ranger Raptor is a very respectable vehicle. Alternatively, maybe you want to look at a Land Cruiser, but I don't think a Land Cruiser is interesting as a Ranger Raptor. Not as fun. You can't get into an Octa. Those are really expensive. Is anyone else making a vehicle that is Raptor?

[B]

E, Passport. Trail. Not Trail Boss. Trail Manager. What was it called?

[A]

Trail Sport.

[B]

Trail Sport.

[A]

Noah says, looking to buy a new BRZ TS, but with price hikes they're hitting 40k. Is the upgrade worth it? Vs the Limited at 37? I live in downtown Port Chester. Shout out to Porchester. Drive mostly for pleasure. Something else I should consider. Man, 40K. What do you. I forget what you get with the T. Can you remind me? Something tells me it was like.

[B]

I think it was like Bram Brembos. And seats.

[A]

I mean, Brembos certainly are a good upgrade. That I would say is probably worthwhile. By the way, I love fucking Portchester. Portchester is one of my favorite places in the world. And if it's also the DUI capital of the universe, because the bars close in Greenwich at 2pm on one side of the river and they close at 4pm in Port Chester. So the other side of the river. So if you want to see a real fucking shit show, 2:15am in Port Chester is the place to be.

[B]

All right. The TS you get. This is from a Subaru dealership. You got STI tuned suspension. I think it did have different dampers.

[A]

Different dampers.

[B]

We drove it a few years ago. Maybe it's changed, but it had different, like Sachs front dampers.

[A]

Yeah, for.

[B]

And you get Brembos and that's all that they list.

[A]

Don't you get PS, PS4s tires as well?

[B]

Let's see. Well, the limited comes with PS4s.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And. And the TS, Brembos mirrors, ultra suede.

[A]

Seats for three grand.

[B]

I don't know, honestly.

[A]

I mean, brakes are good. Brakes are good.

[B]

Good. Brakes are good.

[A]

Good. Brakes are good. Good. Damn good. Factory tuned, good. Dampers are good. I mean, honestly, those. Those are two things you might want to upgrade later. And it would cost you more to upgrade them. And you would also devalue the car by upgrading them versus getting the highest performance, one that the factory will sell you and leaving it alone. I think money in, money out. You only spend about $1,000 net on that. I bet it holds value better than the other one. And I bet if you can stop yourself from messing with it and leave it stock versus ending up modifying the other one, you'd be in better shape.

[B]

I would. If you can. It sounds like you're buying new. Go test drive both in your area. Because if the roads. I don't know if the roads are like. Some of the roads in New York are great, some are garbage.

[A]

Well, no, I mean, look in Portchester, like the city roads fucking blow. And you're five minutes from the amazing Greenwich back roads where the good suspension where my parents live and you're. And good suspension matters. I'd rather. In that part of the world, or, excuse me, like, in that part of the world I'd rather have. I want. I'd want a car that rides well. And I would edge it 75, 25 towards handling because there really are, like, proper corners there. Um. Is that a Buick? Says no. Oh, I. I don't. I'm. I don't have the answer. There's a apparently an issue with a Kia EV6 subwoofer being out of phase. That sucks. Whatever this is is factory wiring era in. In subwoofer. Okay, well, I guess they just have to rewire it.

[B]

Reversing a few wires running to the Meridian subwoofer fixes it.

[A]

All right. Easy fix. Easy fix.

[B]

But are, are most people buying the EV6 like wanting to rewire their own stereo? I mean, hopefully you just bring it to the dealership, you bring it to.

[A]

The dealer and they do it.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, but that's, that's, that's funny.

[B]

That's an oopsie daisy.

[A]

Hey, I'm. I all fucking all fuck up. Should be that insignificant, right? Okay. I currently own a. Sorry. Rick says I earn. I own a 13 Lexus GS350 Sport F Sport and a 2019 SL considering call it consolidating into one not boring sedan. I drive roughly 40,000 miles a year, so reliability is the most important.

[B]

Important.

[A]

Last week I mentioned that the ES350F sport was pretty not terrible. And Zach said forever ingrained in his mind. That was five years ago. And you've driven other cars since. What sets this car apart from the rest of the pedestrian vehicles? I mean, yes, it was five years ago and I couldn't tell you what they've changed since then. I have no idea.

[B]

Neither do I. I mean, all I.

[A]

Could tell you was I drove it right after we had the Lexus LS at the time and I.

[B]

The old LS or the new one.

[A]

Whatever they were selling then.

[B]

Gotcha. I just want to make. Not the one we owned. The one.

[A]

No, no, no. The current ls. From that and the es, it was shockingly similar to drive considering it was front wheel drive. The ride and handling were just as good as the ls. It had more rear seat room because it didn't have a tunnel. It was front wheel drive based. It didn't really matter that it was front or wheel drive based because those cars aren't good at like pushing the limits anyway. But I remember having good steering, good braking, good ride and handling and just being a generally very pleasant thing to drive around.

[B]

I'm realizing that I liked the GS350F Sport. The ES I don't think I drove. I think I edited the video so the ES is not seared. In my mind. The GS was seared.

[A]

The GS was rad.

[B]

That was rad. It felt like a more reliable M5.

[A]

No, the ES isn't like mind blowing, but it is a good handling car and it's the Es like unkillable those.

[B]

Sarah's mom has one. It's a 2012. It feels brand new. It gets kept clean and it's a hybrid. It still works, it gets good mileage. It's still. There is not a rattle squeak or anything in that car. So I think if you're doing 40,000 miles per year I would want something that is very comfortable. The seats are formed to me perfectly or very adjustable, very supportive and something that is just going to be as little maintenance as possible. So if you already have this guy already this person already. Yeah. Rick, you already have a GS350. You're pretty familiar with you know, Lexus interiors and stuff. So I think the question is would you mind if it was front wheel drive? And it's probably about the same size as the GS that. Yes.

[A]

They are. They're as close as makes no difference. Do they even make the GS anymore? I don't think they make the GS anymore. Dude. I haven't seen that in a minute.

[B]

I mean it seems like a great thing to commute long distance in.

[A]

Yeah, ammo spit on that thing. I'm looking for a replacement for my M235 though considering a 240i 340i as well as a Julia Velo Veloce which is the 2 liter one. I've never driven one of those, have you?

[B]

No, only Johnny had one or drove. I think he, he owned one and he said he liked it a lot. That's, that's as much as I know.

[A]

Yeah, I mean I think the, the, the newer Julias like the, the ones for the last three years or four years since about 2020 I think the quality has gone up.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Compared to the earlier ones. So I don't know, you know if you like your 235 you know that that's a good option. Audi S3s are alt ones I always seem to recommend to people. They're lovely. Same with like honestly Q5s. Q5s are nice.

[B]

I think we would need to know more about what you do with your car. Like an M235 can be a nice small GT cruiser for someone or if you're 25 or 30 and into mods like you could be turning it into a 600 horsepower canyon missile. So that'll also determine. I think the S3 is such a great all around vehicle that does so.

[A]

Many things well Tim A says are 981 Boxster and Caymans the best used Porsche value. People say they're Slow. But they're now more special because they have an NA flat 6 and it's essentially the same car as the 718 in terms of interior and experience. I mean those things are both true. I mean a base 981 Boxster Cayman like is pretty slow. I mean it does sound good, but that's a pretty slow car. I drove one as a press car. Like it was slow, but I'd rather have the slow six cylinder than a base two liter turbo. So you're not wrong. And they are somewhat similar, I mean pretty similar to the 718s, especially if you're talking about like a GT4, you know, versus a GT4 or a spider. Now the spider's different. 718 spiders different. But. But yeah, they, they. I don't know about becoming. I mean they're, they've been a good value for a few years now. So I mean I don't know percentage wise if a997 is a better value than a box. I don't, I don't know about that. But like they've been a good value for a minute. It. So are they still a good value? Absolutely, yeah. Then they will be for a while. But like now that you know the, the they're. They're going to be less so for a little bit now that they've stopped making the six cylinder so. Or stop making the 71 8. So like for a minute, for a little bit, like really nice 981s are going to float anyway. Buick Lesaber. Oh. Oh.

[B]

You hook the saber tooth tiger.

[A]

Pick my Turo. Okay. Okay. I need a car for a few days for the Gran Turismo World Tour. I don't know what that is, but. Okay. Is that for the racing series? Is that for the. I guess I don't know many options around the same price. Integra a spec. No current gen S4. Integra A spec and current gen S4 are the same price.

[B]

Integra Aspec is nice, but it is. So that's not a Type S. I know. No, I know. I drove it.

[A]

2022 Z4. No. 2022 M2 maybe Miata RF. No. Your luggage won't fit.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

718 Boxster possibly. I would say I'm doing. He's doing canyons. He's driving to K1 circuit. He's driving around. I would say M2 or Boxster. Leaning towards Boxster.

[B]

I agree. Especially if the weather is decent. You can put the top down and do that whole LA thing and look at palm trees and stuff. I would go for Boxster, depending on where you live. Or M2 is just a little quieter, a little more comfortable.

[A]

It was just you. I would go. I would definitely go Boxster. You got your two trunks, you got your power top. That's what I would do. I. I think there. There's no better Turo car than a 718 Boxster, period. Because they're fucking like 120 bucks. He's talking about that being the same price as a fucking integra.

[B]

Aspec.

[A]

Aspec. Come on. Oh. Updated Dre from Houston. We got the Taycan 4 back with this Lazarus level rebuild from Porsche. Okay. Before the new battery pack install, full charge was 250 miles. Now it's 300 plus. So his. His old battery was shit and his new battery is good. It's the 20, 25 battery pack which is better. So. Dude, I. Someone's gonna have to talk me out of buying another Taycan when this one's done. Because these things rule. Okay. Tale OF the Puff the Magic DRAGON I don't.

[B]

What is this?

[A]

I don't really want to talk about that. Okay. Sorry. It's a P. Cody question. And it gets too much into what won or didn't win? The Stig's lauschened cousin. Oh, the audio was good from the pro show. Oh, from Willow Springs show. Yes. Pro drivers. The live show we recorded at Willow Springs is up as this month's October pro show. Yep. Glad the audio was good. That's what happens when they spend lots of fucking money.

[B]

Yeah. Those folks that ran the AV there were absolutely pros.

[A]

Yeah, Rick in Tennessee I have 130 mile commute five days a week. And the first and last 20 minutes are tight, twisty lane and a half, wide, bumpy country roads. Then the other part is interstate. I want a new daily. I want an E46,330 manual. But reliability and fuel mileage would be nice considering a newer miata. Or an 86, bro. 130 mile commute.

[B]

Get the out of here. And honestly, the 86 again, the only one I drove was a TS. But on the highway out to Spring Mountain and back, it is loud. 100 doing that five days a week, I would be so over it in six months. The decibel levels like 79 decibels. Just cruising.

[A]

Yeah. Okay. I. My mind says GTI.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

This. This is a GTI commute.

[B]

That is a great choice, especially for the money you're going to. Yeah. 25 grand GTI. Maybe you could get a used Golf R, but if you're worried about reliability, you could get a newer gti, maybe with a warranty. It's also simpler. That's a. That's the choice for it, for sure.

[A]

Yeah, that's. That's where I'm at. Because you want a good ride. You want. You want it to be pretty chill on the highway. You want good efficiency, but it's also got to be pretty fun on those twisty bits.

[B]

Yeah, a Civic Sport. No. SI would also be pretty good.

[A]

That would. Yeah, like 30 grand new.

[B]

Yeah, that's a great car.

[A]

Good shifter and clutch. Joey Chestnut, heavy breathing in Hannah's bedroom. Funny, but that's great. Boy, you know a little too much about our bedroom. In my town, there's an old black retired gentleman that rides around all day smoking cigars In a black 78 Caddy Deville with the license plate fly. OG love a man like that. Living their life. There's a guy like that in the. In the Canyons. White guy, Alpha gtv, same story. His whole car is a fucking ashtray. It's awesome. This has made me want to add a cigar car car to the stable. Joey Chestnut says, what would be your ideal cigar car to roll slow, bump tunes, and rip stogies all day? Thinking a 129sl. I'm. Yeah, you're that. I mean, my Mercedes. My free Mercedes project will be it.

[B]

That's a good point. Top down. Yeah. I was thinking, like, a 40s Cadillac would be sweet.

[A]

Oh, that too. Big Caddy.

[B]

Big. Big old Cadillac.

[A]

Yeah, I would say a. A. An old El Dorado, like converted to electric. Not that it makes a difference, but like. Yeah, or a. Like Rolls Corniche.

[B]

Yeah, that would be dope. That guy. What's that? Mercedes. The guy ls swapped, and he's got a gated shifter. 280. Oh, a Jag would be nice.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Mercedes goes to the car event. Slammed. LS swapped.

[A]

280.

[B]

Yeah, 280. And that thing's kind of cool.

[A]

XJ Jaguar XJR. Like Mike Spinelli had. That's a good cigar car.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

What you. What you have to really start, you need a car that has poor aerodynamics, because poor aerodynamics means no buffeting at the windows. And with a cigar, you don't want buffeting. You want. You don't want the Delica. No buffeting with the Delica. Fabulous cigar car. Yeah. Smells like Dodge spirit. There we go.

[B]

Good one.

[A]

New Patreon member. Welcome to the club. Question if either of you became the President. Ruh row, what car would you want made into the Beast? The limo for you. That's a good one.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The problem is it, it can't be something like fun.

[B]

No. Because that's a way £9,000 and be indestructible.

[A]

And it has to be American in.

[B]

Oh, that too.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean honestly, Ranger Raptor, because I have. I have fun with that. But I think you need. I don't want a TRX because it's just already inefficient and terrible and too loud. Oh, I was about to say something like a lyric. Cuz it's got torque and stuff, but if there's an EMP that goes off.

[A]

Yeah. Whole car turns off H1 Alpha just to be a dickhead.

[B]

But yeah, with a good diesel coming swapping it.

[A]

Or I could be like, well, if I'm president, it's gonna be NASCAR because we're turning left. But I would fucking. I would have a. I would have a Chevy volt stretched like 37ft long.

[B]

That's funny. That's a good one. That's a very. That's a very diplomatic choice.

[A]

Yeah, I think Vision 2002 says. Is there a second half of this?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Okay. Back in the day, my dad bought a brand new S54 equipped Z3M roadster. I'm considering finding one to his exact spec to revisit the good old days. The question is, will I be disappointed? A lot of folks knock it as a performance car and I don't want to end up regretting just not getting a Boxster Cayman or newer Z4s. What is the crux of journalists issue with the car? I mean, here's the thing. I think these cars are fun as shit. I don't have a problem with them at all. I don't know who has a problem with them and why. The knock is that it's an E30 chassis and that's a shitload of power in an E30 chassis. And it's not that refined. But that's also what people say about them in a good. In a complimentary way.

[B]

Sure. You've driven S54 swapped E30s and they're amazing. So with the right setup, we have plenty of friends that rock modified E30s and they're great to drive.

[A]

Yeah. And I mean now that car is a classic. That car is 25 years old. That's a classic car. So it doesn't matter if it's like not as like good objectively as other things. Like you don't want it because it had better steering or power than a Boxster in 2001. You want it because it was your dad's car. So I'm not sure how you're gonna end up being disappointed.

[B]

I think you're like. Because you are. You're predisposed to like it, but you all. This person also has a GTI or a head a GTI. You had an E39 M5amodded 2002. You are the right person to enjoy this thing. You know, I think the other people that are comparing it to Boxster, Cayman, etc. They're looking at it as an isolated car. And. And that's the. In a vacuum, those might be better in some ways. But you have this like back catalog of nostalgia and I think you're really gonna like it.

[A]

Yeah. If you don't like it, Hugh, blow me. This is pretty.

[B]

Wait, I have an answer real. A fast one for Thunder, Cougar, Falcon, Bird.

[A]

I don't really have a good answer for that.

[B]

OEM best OEM stereo I've experienced under 50 grand is ironically in the Integra A spec. The ELS stereo is absolutely incredible.

[A]

That's true. Integra Acura does have a. Oh, I just got a text. I will have a Panamera Turbo S E hybrid to drive to the Hilton Head concourse. Great. What is your. If you don't like it. Hublomi wants to know what is your opinion of Hublot? I was interested in one. I went to YouTube and I was bombarded with watch influencer videos saying Hublot is trash. Yeah, I hate that people that that's the case. I mean, so here's the thing. I don't think Hublot was trash. I think their reputation in the 2010s was like kind of well earned because it was all sort of about the outside and not on the inside. But they were priced pretty high. And I don't personally, I don't love how their watches look. They've never made a single watch where to me was like o. Oh yeah, I gotta have that. Having said that, I don't. If someone is wearing one, I'm absolutely not gonna gonna judge them or. And I don't think. I don't think most real people would in person judge somebody for wearing a Hublot. Even if they were the people making a fucking video saying that they sucked. They're not gonna fucking walk up to you in person and say that.

[B]

It's a good way to get hit in the face.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, I Think, I think they make, they make fine movements. I don't think their investment grade watches, they depreciate, but they're, but they're nice if you like them. They're, they're not. Yeah. Last one live Axl Rose, what scene do you want to see lampooned on the IG account? Angeles Death Highway. Next. I, I, I don't, I'm not going to encourage AI slop. I think I, I just, just, I don't, I wasn't personally offended by someone deciding to put that, I say I have cats in there or something. But like I just, I, I don't, I don't want that to be the Internet, man.

[B]

I agree.

[A]

Don't. I don't want to live in that world. I, I, I would, I, I'll park cars, man. I don't want to, I don't want to put my videos up there competing with AI trash. I don't want to live in a world where this ouroboros of AI feeding, it's like, you know, where the, the value of all artistic worth ever created is just funneled upwards directly to Sam Altman.

[B]

Right.

[A]

I just at that.

[B]

And the perfecting of those programs so that it's easier to make realistic looking videos which then can be used for totally nefarious.

[A]

Yeah, like the, the world was totally fine without that stuff and like, we don't need it. It doesn't, it doesn't make the world a better place. Like, it's, it's just, we're just moving towards an Internet where just computers are talking at computers without any people in the way. Like no lessons are learned from the Terminator movies at all. I just went, I'm going to end here because, because here's where I see, see this, this going. I was just at a, it's tech week in LA and I was invited to a Tech Week cocktail mixer with Hannah. And for the most part it was interesting and fun and I met some people and then I met a guy whose name I don't actually remember and I was like, I asked him what he did. Drone boats. What's that? What is that? Well, imagine instead of one Navy destroyer carrier, you have 1,020 foot drone boats that are programmed and controlled the way that those drone fireworks displays are.

[B]

Right?

[A]

And I go, so like you'd have the carrier, aircraft carrier and they would, you know, they would surround the carrier like a, like a force field almost. And he was like, yeah, yeah, you could do that. He's like, or you could decide to shut down A river or a canal and just you'd send the swarm. And I go, how many, how many is a swarm? He's like 1000 to 1500. And I was like, uh huh. And he goes, and you know how many operators you need for that? Humans? And I was like, how many? And he goes, two from anywhere. And I was like, like, oh, good, good. I can't wait for this to be our, our world. And so, yeah, so this is, I mean, this is where it's all, this is where it goes, you know, where these billionaires, computers fight these billionaires computers and anyone that isn't a fucking billionaire or defense contractor just what, like gets blown up?

[B]

Well, I think, I mean, yes, and, and my concern on top of that is if you remove the human element from armed conflict, like on the plus side, and the way we'll be sold it is, well, now there's no more human life. We're not sending our soldiers into battle, et cetera, et cetera. It's like, right, but then you are. Then the citizens are untethered from the actions of the administration of the DOW dod. And then we go, well, no one's getting hurt, so I guess this is the right thing to do. And then they're just doing things with more impunity or more in the dark.

[A]

It's why that book I read, Rutger Bregman, Humankind, it's about like how during World War II, like opposing armies would like pretend opposing like regiments would like meet up and like secretly pretend to fight. Cause they didn't want to kill each other.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like they'd order them to kill each other, but they're all fucking just kids, you know, and they'd meet up in the middle of the night. Okay, like, listen, we have to shoot at you, but like we're gonna shoot over your heads. Okay, so when we shoot over your heads, you know, you. Then you shoot over our end, you know, and we like, we'll like pretend to fight, but like, we really won't.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Like that happened a bunch. Wow. Like the people don't like always, you know, want to kill. They're, they're propagandized into that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But yeah, if you eliminate that, that potential area of resistance where I have to convince regular people to do terrible things and I can just do, I.

[B]

Mean, this warm thing and this is me like tinfoil hat stuff. But if protests get louder or more voluminous and I'm saying this, remaining peaceful, but if people any, in any country are frustrated and they're just walking peacefully. We have seen the response tends to be more aggressive. And if you can have a swarm fly over them and drop pepper balls or whatever, then again, the humanity is removed from that. You don't have police officers having to choose to interact with these protesters and make those decisions against their citizens. You can have someone in an office who's more of a shithead sociopath, and they can do so much more.

[A]

By the way, you've just Described the first 5 minutes of the movie the Running man with Arnold Schwarzenegger.

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

Where he refuses to fire on a crowd of protesters as a military helicopter pilot refuses to fire on the protesters, fights the other people in the helicopter. They subdue him. They fire on the protesters anyway, and they edit together a video framing him saying, I'm gonna, like, kill all these protesters. And they put him in jail. And then to get out of jail, he goes on the game show the Running Man. That's like, literally the first fucking dude. Everybody that is running things now has learned all the wrong lessons from all the fucking 80s and 90s movies. They've just gone like, wouldn't this be cool? Instead of, like, actually having any kind of fucking moral clarity about these films.

[B]

I mean, it's funny because when you watch movies like that, there's a movie with Ray Liotta called, like, the Castle, but basically, like, there's always.

[A]

Oh, dude, you mean there's the Castle and there's the one on the island.

[B]

That's what I was thinking.

[A]

Some. Oh, God damn it. No escape.

[B]

No escape.

[A]

No escape.

[B]

So we. We watch those movies and we see ourselves as the people who are in prison and can. And can fight back. It's. It's G.I. joe. It's good versus evil. Whatever. There's definitely some people that watch those movies and go, I would have built that fence way stronger. Like, here's what I would have done. You know, people watch Hunger Games and they see themselves as the people on top. Not, you know, the. What's her name? Jennifer Lawrence?

[A]

Katniss.

[B]

Katniss.

[A]

You know, I've never seen the Hunger Games, and I know that.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yep.

[B]

They're good.

[A]

I know. I know. I mean, one of those things.

[B]

They were more fun to watch a.

[A]

Few years probably, right? Yeah. Now they hit a little, too. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

It's actually, like, watch kids.

[A]

No, I mean, young people. All you have to do is look at one photo of Stephen Miller and go, that's not a guy who learns lessons from movies.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Did you. If you really want to Be depressed. The Some more news about Stephen Miller that was out last week is an hour and 17 minutes long. And holy motherfucking shit.

[B]

He's trying to sell his very expensive house right now.

[A]

Yikes. Yeah. Because his neighbors don't like him. Wisely have made it very uncomfortable for him to exist in public as they fucking should. You shouldn't get to be a fascist and have people be nice to you.

[B]

Did you see the clip, I'm sure he did of him on cnn, and he says out loud, like, the president should have totally untethered authority.

[A]

The word is. Starts with a P. Yeah. And then he. And he catches himself going, I shouldn't say that in public.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Yeah. It's a word I'd never actually heard before and had to look up.

[B]

Up.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Plenary authority.

[A]

Plenary. Yeah.

[B]

And then he just stops talking and he just freezes and stares at the screen. And they're like, would you. What you say, hello? Do you hear us? What? And he just. He doesn't blink.

[A]

No, it's a real I up free and deer in the headlight.

[B]

Maybe he's controlled by Grock and he's actually a cyborg. And. And Elon's back there going, oh, he messed up the programming again.

[A]

Don't use the word plenary. Yeah, look up the word plenary now. I mean, obviously, I forgot what the word meant. I forgot the word two weeks later. But, yeah, what it means is he thinks the president can do anything. Anything. That's what that means. It's fucking fascism.

[B]

The definition is refers to power that is complete, comprehensive, and not subject to any significant limitations.

[A]

So that's what the president's advisor is saying to cameras on accident, that he thinks the president has that cool king shit. You guys, I fucking love it. Sunny day in California. Let's get fucking to it. That's our show, guys. Sorry to end on a downer, but, you know, fascism is sad. And on Monday. Right. Yeah, Monday. Live show Monday, before I go to the airport and go to Spain and drive the 911 Turbo S. Already know. Maybe I'll. I'll see if I can. If there's time, maybe I can swing it. Because Jack from Savage Geese and Fenski are also gonna be in Spain. Maybe we could try to throw together a jamon cast.

[B]

You should.

[A]

I'll try. It's. You know, it's hard. And everyone's fucking trying to get their videos edited and shit. Them.

[B]

Fenske already did a video, so tell him, like, you're not making a video.

[A]

I'm not doing shit.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

All right, everybody. We love you. Thank you to our patrons for asking such good questions today. Sorry, the last one triggered the lib. See you later.