Cars for Swinging?; Puncture; Mecum Results; More!

Summary

The Smoking Tire Podcast: "Cars for Swinging?; Puncture; Mecum Results; More!"

Hosts: Matt Farah & Zack Klapman
Date: May 21, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this lively and wide-ranging episode, Matt and Zack dive deep into automotive industry news, share personal anecdotes and project updates, and answer an eclectic set of listener questions. Key topics include the quick sellout of the Notice Canyon watch, wild results from the Mecum supercar auction, details on a special new BMW M3 CS, reliability discussions on Alfa Romeo, and an outrageous Q&A about the best cars for swinging couples. They also share personal tales from fraternity life, car repairs, and even the primal triumphs—and traumas—of cats catching birds.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Luxe Life on the Track ([00:00]–[03:33])

• Matt's revelation: Discovering the perks at race tracks as a (relatively) new member of the “wealthy club”—breakfast burritos and coffee waiting at the track.
• Quote:
  "It's funny watching a wealthy person be introduced to the rich life, you know, because that's what's happening." – Zack ([01:29])
• The difference in amenities and expectations between private clubs and public tracks, and the nostalgia of “spoiled” golf club life in Matt’s past.

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2. College Stories & Fraternity Rides ([03:33]–[10:14])

• Matt relays fraternity road trip tales, notably having a pledge chauffeur him and friends on a long drive, turning the hazing tradition into a positive, enjoyable experience.
• Quote:
  "The only real thing I had a pledge do was...chauffeur us in the truck. And me and Jeff sat in the back with my other buddy and puffed Ls and just watched movies for 9.6 hours." – Matt ([05:14])
• Early car memories: Zack’s first turbo experience in a Mitsubishi Eclipse, and both hosts reminiscing about hilariously bad cars of their youth (Eclipse GS non-turbo, base Lancers, their visual differences vs. Evolutions).

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3. Notice Watches Update ([19:27]–[24:49])

• Matt announces the Notice Canyon watch is officially sold out (with the pink version moving slower, but still hotly anticipated).
• Details about the next diver watch, emphasizing thinness and water resistance.
• Watch Stats:
  Slim diver to be “in the tens” of mm (10-mm range)—unusually thin for a diver, with high reliability and Swiss movement.

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4. Special BMW M3CS “Handelstrasse” Reveal ([25:59]–[28:55])

• Exclusive tease: A Smoking Tire fan, now a BMW product manager, brings to market the M3CS “Handelstrasse”—a rear-drive, manual transmission M3 CS with lightweight bits.
• Specs:
  473hp, rear-drive, manual, CS bodywork and parts, $107k, North America only.
• Notable moment:
  "But it's a CS manual gearbox. Loving it." — Matt ([28:50])

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5. Mecum Supercar Auction Results ([29:11]–[36:38])

• Shock as a silver Ferrari Enzo in Grigio Titanio crosses $10.2 million—over $4M more than the previous Enzo high.
• California Spider: $18M—normal for such a car, but still jaw-dropping.
• Singer Classic 911: Record price at $1.65M.
• Discussion on supercars as asset classes and speculation shaping the market.
• Quote:
  "Special Ferraris, particularly in unique specifications, are now like a known and encouraged asset class. Your financial advisor will tell you, yeah, go in hard on that." — Matt ([32:51])

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6. Car Project & Ownership Tales ([42:25]–[47:31])

• Matt’s Taycan needs new control arms—dealer replaces the whole assembly rather than just bushings. Both hosts discuss subtle repair diagnostics.
• Zack finds a massive nail in his tire and ponders if he blew the diff, but it's just a huge puncture.
• Zack to borrow Matt's Aston to get to jury duty.
• Driving impressions: Matt reflects on the “pink car” (his Porsche 911): lots of torque and easy to slide, but street tires not up to repeated track use.

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7. Cat Hunting Chronicles ([56:53]–[62:17])

• Matt's cats bring a live bird into the house—leading to a graphic but heartfelt discussion of mercy, nature, and the joys and challenges of pet parenthood.
• Quote:
  "I'm so proud of my girls...for catching a bird. That's some real shit, dude." — Matt ([59:46])

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8. Listener Q&A: Cars for Swingers & More ([73:21]–[77:51])

• Listener asks: If you’re into swinging, what’s the ideal car to pick up couples at 25k, 50k, and 100k price points?
• $25k: Bentley Turbo R (“A swingin’ ride.”)
• $50k:
  • Zack: Toyota Century (classy, responsible)
  • Matt: Boss van with “inflatable furniture” and maybe even a sex swing
• $100k: Meyers Manx 4-seater Resort with shag carpet —"I'm ready to bone. And I have weed." – Matt ([77:41])
• Entire exchange is a riotous highlight.

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9. Market Trends, Buying Advice, and “Fizz” Factors ([83:41]–[99:15])

• New vs. classic project cars: Why modded older cars might still scratch that itch better than anything new at the same price.
• STI Wishlist: More horsepower, lighter chassis, fantasy about a BRZ STI turbo.
• Lightweight sports cars: Will a manufacturer ever return to the <$2,400 lbs. “driver’s car”? Current contenders: GR86, possible future MR2 variant.
• JDM Imports: If you want GTR magic, buy a GTR (even R32), not a lower-trim R34 for $65k.
• Fizz factors: Cars that recapture the “turbo Miata feeling” on a budget: Mini Cooper S (R53), scruffy Boxster, C5 Corvette.

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10. Watch Qs, Alfa Romeo, Car Club Themes ([78:52]–[108:14])

• Chronograph etiquette: No strict right or wrong for running sweep second hands on mechanical watches.
• Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio: Post-2020s are far more reliable due to production simplification.
• Automotive color clubs: “Rare Shades” club is highlighted as an unusual but understandable enthusiast thread—personalization as self-expression.

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11. Fashion for Larger Guys & Final Thoughts ([100:03]–[105:32])

• Large-size shopping tips: Stick to durable, classic brands; don’t overbuy when still losing weight (“Don’t celebrate with dessert—celebrate with clothes”).
• Instagram rec: @bigfits1 (David Lane) for “how to dress well as a bigger dude”.

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12. Fun Endnotes: Concerts, Car Community Trends ([85:41], [107:00])

• Rise Against + AFI tour plans.
• Strangest car club theme? “Rare Shades” for paint-to-sample Porsche color nerds.
• Final thoughts on PTS (paint-to-sample) culture: "It's like a wonderful bit of stolen PTS valor." – Matt ([111:55])

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• "Support is coming into this episode from Mac Tools. Love Mac Tools..." – Matt ([13:08]) — skip for main content; ad.
• "My partner and I opened our relationship…what car to pick up couples at $25k/50k/100k?" — Listener question ([73:21]) leads to the “Cars for Swingers” segment.
  "It also might. Car enthusiasm is universal." – Zack ([74:16])
• "I'm so proud of my girls, of Cricket and Monty, for catching a bird, definitely. That's some real shit, dude." – Matt ([59:46])
• "I'd like it [the next STI] to be a BRZ and not a WRX. I'd like it to be a BRZ STI with a turbo...I would be very aroused." – Matt ([84:03])
• "Light cars are like Mexican food: people say they love it, but they're not willing to pay a fucking fortune for it." – Matt ([72:29])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:00 – Rich life at tracks / breakfast burritos revelation
• 03:33 – Fraternity stories, power dynamics, and first turbo cars
• 19:27 – Notice Canyon watch sellout & diver watch plans
• 25:59 – BMW M3CS “Handelstrasse” reveal, manual, rear-drive
• 29:11 – Mecum supercar auction insanity (Enzo, California Spider)
• 42:25 – Car repair chat (Taycan bushings, punctured tire)
• 56:53 – Cat brings in a bird: nature, mercy, and pet drama
• 73:21 – Q&A: Best swinging couple cars by price tier
• 78:52 – Running chronograph watches—does it matter?
• 84:03 – Next-gen STI: what do enthusiasts want?
• 100:03 – Fashion/clothing tips for larger dudes
• 107:00 – Strangest car club theme: "Rare Shades" PTS Porsche owners

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Tone and Flow

Casual, hilarious, and sometimes irreverent; Matt and Zack riff off each other with breezy expertise, mixing in serious automotive analysis with personal life stories and plenty of comedic asides.

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For the Fans Who Missed It

This episode is quintessential Smoking Tire: a perfect balance of sharp car industry commentary, enthusiast advice, wild tangents, and memorable in-jokes. The hosts cover everything from watch micro-brands to choosing the best car to impress (or seduce) a swinging couple, never missing a beat between deep dives and punchlines. Whether you’re here for the supercar auction analysis, practical car maintenance tips, or just to hear about Matt’s cats’ latest hunting adventures, it’s all here—served up with laughter and unfiltered honesty.

Transcript

[Matt Farah]

All right, folks, on this episode of the podcast, the final notice canyon, and therefore the entire range has sold out. I've learned some things about what's broken on my Taycan. A fan of the Smoking Tire podcast has brought to market an incredible new product from BMW. And we go through the insane results of the mecam supercar sale. It's the Smoking Tire podcast. Let's go, guys. The Smoking Tire is giving away a 992.1 Turbo S. In partnership with Dream Giveaways, we are giving away a $275,000 car with some slick choice mods. The proceeds benefit charity, and you don't have to buy any merch. It's a straightforward entry process. So hit the link in the show notes and get entered to win. Today I just found out that I can just, like, have breakfast burritos, like, waiting for me at the track, like, if I want.

[Zach Klawitter]

Oh, wow. Like, that's nice.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. So very cool. I was just like, hey, is it. What time does the diner open, like, for breakfast or lunch? I was like, you know, breakfast? And they're like, oh, well, do you want to just, like, have burritos and coffee at the. At streets when you get there? And I was like, I can do that. And they're like, yeah. And I was like, okay.

[Zach Klawitter]

It's funny watching a wealthy person be introduced to the rich life, you know, because that's what's happening. Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

I mean. Yeah.

[Zach Klawitter]

You don't know what the amenities are, like, normal.

[Matt Farah]

Not like there's a. There's levels to this shit. And I'm only on a little bit. A little bit up level.

[Zach Klawitter]

Also, when we go there right now, it's kind of empty, so you don't really know what is available.

[Matt Farah]

Right. It's like. It's not like there's a breakfast that's there for everybody every day. It's like they're gonna wait. They're gonna do all this just for me.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

And you'll feel a little. I feel a little weird because I didn't write the check.

[Zach Klawitter]

You know, it feels like, you know, recently they just rebuilt a shopping center on here, the one with the FedEx and the motorcycle store. And, you know, they have all this, like, scaffolding in front, but all those things say business is open during.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klawitter]

I feel like Willow Springs is like, oh, like the restaurants open, but it's just very quiet here, and there's a lot less happening.

[Matt Farah]

You're not sure. D on a. On a Wednesday, you know, going out at 9am on a Wednesday. If you're not, if you're not bringing your own friends, like, who the else is going to be out there? I mean, I grew up at. I grew up at hoity toity ass private country clubs, golf clubs. And I could walk up and no tea time and play at 9am on a Wednesday my whole life.

[Zach Klawitter]

Because all members are at work. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Matt Farah]

The, the, like, I got, I got real spoiled. Like, reality hit me hard when I came to LA and did not have some kind of private golf club access. Like even in college. In college I went to, you know, a lot of, A lot of. In Philly, a lot of kids were local. They were from the suburbs of Philly, like all these feeder schools. So a bunch of them belonged to, you know, local ish golf clubs. Oh. So I was able to like get some golf in in college with my, with my friends, which was pretty cool actually. And we actually, we even drove. We were like already old. We like drove on some golf trips as well. What am I pledging things.

[Zach Klawitter]

We drove like, like took a road trip. A road trip to a golf course. Okay. Like, and last summer, but for a different sect.

[Matt Farah]

All right, so here's where it relates to cars. I had my Mercury Mountaineer we've talked about in college. My drug dealer mobile. Fucking epic drug dealer mobile. The most perfect Philadelphia drug dealer car that exists ever in history. It was great. And three rows. TVs in all of them. And so, you know, I was in this fraternity and I was never like a gung ho fraternity, but I was the social chair, which meant I was in charge of parties, which is a pretty. If you must be in a fraternity, be the fucking social chair. You're literally in charge of all the money for partying. It's the best job that exists in being in a fraternity. And so when I became one of the. An elder, like a junior in college, it's like an elder person the fraternity. You know, you. When there's pledges, you can have them, like do stuff for you. And a lot of people were like, mean to the pledges. You know, they. There's that weird cycle of violence that happens with pledging where, you know, people get fucking forced to drink and the shit beat out of them and do weird stuff, doing pledging, and they can't fucking wait to do that same shit to the next group of people. When I was finished with pledging, I wasn't like, I was like, I want to. I don't want to do this to some other people.

[Zach Klawitter]

I don't want to lick the peanut butter.

[Matt Farah]

It's like, gross. No, I don't want to have a bunch of slaves. I'm not about that. So a couple times I thought of fun things for a pledge to do for me where the pledge would have a good time. So the only real thing I had a pledge do was me and my buddy Jeff. Jeff. Miami Jeff. We were gonna go from Philly to my parents house in South Carolina by car to play a round of golf. And I had a pledge put on a suit and a hat and chauffeur you and chauffeur us in the truck. And me and Jeff sat in the back with my other buddy and puffed Ls and just watched movies for 9.6 hours.

[Zach Klawitter]

You just watched Sopranos the whole way?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, basically the whole seat. We watched like all of season three of the Sopranos. Puffed like a half ounce of herb. And this, you know, freshman fucking drove us. And of course, we weren't. We weren't dipshits. Like, he, the freshman, like, stayed at the house with us and like, we invite. He played golf with us.

[Zach Klawitter]

We had a very good time.

[Matt Farah]

He had the best time ever. Like, he had a great time. Like, he just had to do most of the driving, you know. Like, it was. It was pretty awesome. Like, that's about the extent of my pledge abuse.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah, that's pretty good.

[Matt Farah]

And when I was a freshman, I started selling weed when I was a freshman. So I was selling weed during pledging. So the only thing I was ever asked to do as a pledge was, yo, bring weed.

[Zach Klawitter]

Bring weed.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, that was it.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah, you're seen as an adult immediately.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, so I was. I fucking sailed through our pledging. But, yeah, the cycle of violence that you see in, like, households with alcoholics and abusive, like, that plays out in full in two years in a fraternity. Crazy.

[Zach Klawitter]

Our house was small. Like, when I joined, it was like 20 people. And it was started by entrepreneurial nerds. And they were like, much nicer than what became of the house when it quickly grew, like three years later. So there wasn't much of that. But there were like two people that you could see, had the eye and the attitude of, like, I could tell these fucks what to do. You're like, your parents bought your brand new car for you. Like, you're not tough. And I know exactly what I'm talking about. But they really liked wielding that power for the two years they had it. And maybe they went on to a job where they have.

[Matt Farah]

No, I don't Know what happened if they became cops?

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

You know, but our fraternity, actually, you know, fraternities all get a really bad rap. Mostly deserved. Mostly deservedly so. I'm not here to defend the fraternity system at all. And, in fact, I didn't even stay for senior year. But our fraternity in particular, which was Tao Epsilon Phi at Penn, we had. We were, like, fully, like, multiracial. Like, there were black people, Indian people, Asian people, white people, Hispanic people. We had the first, as far as we could find, the first openly gay brothers. This was 2001. First openly gay brothers of any fraternity in the history of Penn. We had to make a rule that brothers couldn't hook up with pledges, actually, because there's, like, a power dynamic, and that is un.

[Zach Klawitter]

The power is coming from the bottom. As always. Sonny explained.

[Matt Farah]

No, no. But let's just say that that was paddling.

[Zach Klawitter]

Who now?

[Matt Farah]

Wasn't a rule written in blood, per se.

[Zach Klawitter]

Oh. It was preemptive.

[Matt Farah]

It was preventative. It was a preventative. Thought it was a preventative. Yeah, it was a preventative, right, because after we had the first gay pledge shout out to Seth Weissman, who I also went to high school with and then ended up in my fraternity as the first openly gay brother. But when he literally, at the end of pledging, we're like, we have to make a rule so you can't take pledges next year. He's like, oh, yeah, that actually makes a lot of sense.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah. All right.

[Matt Farah]

It was okay. It was a very progressive situation.

[Zach Klawitter]

It was very good. That was cool.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klawitter]

We had an openly gay pledge, too, in 2003, I think, and it was very funny the way, like, most of the house was like, yeah, sure, whatever. And a couple people were like, you know, it's against my beliefs of this or that. And I felt very encouraged when that argument. People believe what they want, but when you're, like, part of a democratic system, it got laughed at. Quorum laughed it away, like, for sure.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. No, other than making that one rule, it actually was not that big of a deal. But making a pledge drive me to South Carolina for a round of golf was, I think, a good use of a bludgeon.

[Zach Klawitter]

That's pretty good. My first turbo car driving experience was when I was a pledge, I think, and I got to drive. Shout out, ovin, I know you're listening. Oh, yeah, he let me drive. You know, Ovin.

[Matt Farah]

I do.

[Zach Klawitter]

He let me drive his Eclipse gst.

[Matt Farah]

Oh, dude.

[Zach Klawitter]

To go get alcohol when he was, like, 21. And I was like, this Is awesome. He never let me drive it again in college.

[Matt Farah]

Was it very funny? First or second gen?

[Zach Klawitter]

First gen. First gen. Oh, like the eagle we drove.

[Matt Farah]

Oh, yeah.

[Zach Klawitter]

Looked the same. Power seat belts, I think power seat belts.

[Matt Farah]

Very tall shifter, like very dildo.

[Zach Klawitter]

Very dildo. Very dildo shifter, very. Pull this lever to open hatch.

[Matt Farah]

Extremely dildo.

[Zach Klawitter]

Which I remember I looked at went. I've driven like, I don't know, 10 cars at this point that all have shift knobs, not a shift lever. So that was weird. But when turbo hit, I was like, oh, this, this is spicy. I'm down.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, man. My friend Brandon had the Eclipse GS non turbo automatic. You want to talk about a car? There was the vibratiest car I've ever been.

[Zach Klawitter]

All the reliability of Mitsubishi with none of the joy. Great.

[Matt Farah]

Brandon's Mitsubishi was tough, dude. It was bad.

[Zach Klawitter]

They've made some. When you see like a regular Lancer from the early aughts and then you see what was turned into the Evo and you go, man, they did great work with like that surgeon with the body cladding and the wing transformed in base Lancer, tall as fuck looking car.

[Matt Farah]

It's like the Evo 8. But in base lancer. A base Lancer from that year is one of the saddest cars imaginable. Like if you ask Claude to draw me failure on wheels.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah. Draw me the cheapest gray car you can.

[Matt Farah]

That's a sad looking car.

[Zach Klawitter]

Just looks, it looks so short and stubby.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, it's like a Corolla on lithium.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah, it really is. Like this whole hood looks. It looks like they found wheels at the factory that were too small and put them on anyway. This should have because of this front end.

[Matt Farah]

Are those weird 14s? Probably. Those are bad. But then you have the Evo 9.

[Zach Klawitter]

Hi, guys.

[Matt Farah]

Like, dude, just put the Evo 9. Just give me any Evo.

[Zach Klawitter]

Give me any Evo.

[Matt Farah]

You widen the fenders, you give me some vents. Little aggression in the low nose. The right wheels, I mean, look.

[Zach Klawitter]

They also changed the headlight design.

[Matt Farah]

The door is exactly the same, by the way. The shape of the roof is exactly the same. The hood line and trunk line are exactly the same.

[Zach Klawitter]

I think the hood, they change because see how the lights wrap up up onto the hood in the regular Lancer. And then here they're horizontal. Oops.

[Matt Farah]

Oh, hang on a minute.

[Zach Klawitter]

I did do that. Oh, see, for real, the grill's the same.

[Matt Farah]

Oh, wow.

[Zach Klawitter]

The lights. The lights were the key.

[Matt Farah]

What a difference that makes.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah, look, here's a Clear example.

[Matt Farah]

Oh, that's sad. Lights.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

That's crazy.

[Zach Klawitter]

There's just no intimidation factor, you know? Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Because look, even when you have the RS there with no wing and stuff, you got to have the right. The right headlights. Fuck those headlights. What a world of difference, huh?

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah. That same year.

[Matt Farah]

Well, it's like. Think about the shape of eyes. Like, you go from, like, the yellow one has, like, crazy fucking cat lady eyes.

[Zach Klawitter]

The lift was too aggressive. You know when someone looks surprised and they can't really blink? Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Beverly Hills. The yellow is Beverly Hills.

[Zach Klawitter]

She's 72.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klawitter]

Just got divorced.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. And the red one, the Evo, is Glendale. Just anger, straight rage.

[Zach Klawitter]

Staying away from that comparison. People are gonna think you mean something else with Glendale. That's the problem.

[Matt Farah]

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[Zach Klawitter]

Great.

[Matt Farah]

That's the last one. I promise. We're not making any more of those.

[Zach Klawitter]

No more canyons.

[Matt Farah]

No more canyons, however. Not however.

[Zach Klawitter]

You're making a canyon. No,

[Matt Farah]

no.

[Zach Klawitter]

You're making a fjord.

[Matt Farah]

I was noodling around the name Canyon Deep for the diver, but I don't really love it. I think it's not going to be where we land.

[Zach Klawitter]

That just sounds like a larger canyon or a canyon grand if it was

[Matt Farah]

a canyon for diving. It's on. It's a different. It's a completely different architecture watch. But Wes from Notice texted me that we, we, we. Colin the engineer, the. The guy who literally engineers notices watches, was able to hit my crucial milestone, or my. Excuse me, milestone is the wrong word. My crucial metric of a 200 meters water resist diver with a. With a thickness that is in the tens. So this not. This isn't shit. That's not the canyon. The canyon is 11 7. So this is a slimmer but more waterproof. This is it. It's actually the canyon's 200 meters also. But this is a diver with a spinning dive bezel. Like it that think Rolex Submariner but thinner. That's so than the canyon. Like almost all affordable divers are gonna be like 15 millimeter chunky. Chunky, yeah. And even like the new Grand Seiko that I was like gushing over last week, the ushio. That's like 13 7. Yeah, like that's like third. That's 13. It's something with a 13, 13 7, 13 8, something like that. And so like a 90s or 2000s submariner is like low elevens. Like we wanted to go thin.

[Zach Klawitter]

Wow.

[Matt Farah]

Actually check me on that. Can you google what is the, what is the thickness of like a. I don't know, 2002 Rolex Submariner? Is it 12.7 to 12.8? So significantly thicker than that? Thinner.

[Zach Klawitter]

Excuse me. Yeah, significantly 20% ish.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klawitter]

Cool.

[Matt Farah]

Which like, listen, for a affordable watch with serious water resistance, this is going to be a fucking heater.

[Zach Klawitter]

So it'll feel almost like a dress watch in terms of the thinness and lightness.

[Matt Farah]

It'll go under all the cuffs instead

[Zach Klawitter]

of being this big thing that gets in the way.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, you'll be. That's impressive. The more, the thinner the watch, like the more versatile it can be. So like the really dope, mega high end sport watches. The Nautilus, the Royal Oak. These are really thin. The Nautilus is like 8 1/2 millimeters thin. Really thin. Wow. Yeah, yeah.

[Zach Klawitter]

So but does, does that usually come with a higher cost?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, these watches, Those watches are 35, $40,000 retail. We're talking about something that is around the same price as the. We have not landed on final pricing, but it will be in the same ballpark as what we've been selling. The movement is a little different. It's not used. It's still going to be. It's a Solita Swiss movement. This is the Le Joux Parrette movement. So it has a slightly shorter power reserve. This has the 70 hour. I don't think it's got quite such a long power reserve. I forgot to ask what the power reserve is. It's just the mission was the thinness with the water resistance and it was, you know, whatever dependable, accurate movement. We can get that will fit our thinness targets.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah, if you're still underwater at 70 hours, you don't need to tell the time anymore.

[Matt Farah]

And notice hand clocks the movements so they regulate every movement. So they don't just buy the movement and put it in the watch. They actually, they put it on a time grapher and there's ways to like adjust.

[Zach Klawitter]

They make sure it's all the same.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, yeah, they make them really accurate. So. But yeah, we, we six colors and how many, how many, how many watches? 100 mint, 100 blue, 100 green, and 100 pink. Okay, that's 400. We got 200 orange.

[Zach Klawitter]

Okay.

[Matt Farah]

So 600 and then 50 of mother of pearls and then Scott's watch. So 600, 651.

[Zach Klawitter]

Dude, this is cool.

[Matt Farah]

That's a lot of watches to sell.

[Zach Klawitter]

It is. It's amazing that you, you know, you were a fan of watches since forever and then you get to make, to

[Matt Farah]

make partnership with others and then they like it. And there's people who bought all six. I think there's like eight people maybe or nine people that bought all six Thanos.

[Zach Klawitter]

He did it first and then. Yeah, yeah.

[Matt Farah]

And yeah, I see them out, you know, and when I go to, when I go to stuff, people are wearing them and they really like it. And we have a couple friends that are like pretty well off and have like pretty high end collections and like they're wearing their canyons like all the time.

[Zach Klawitter]

Dude, it's a nice watch.

[Matt Farah]

It's a pretty good watch. Yeah, it's a good watch. So I don't know if the pinks have shipped yet. They're like, it's. If they have it, it's like they, it's like now, they should be shipping now. So I hope to see them on people's wrists very, very soon. Thank you for, thank you for playing that game and I hope you like our next watch. We have, we have. It's gonna be fun. It's gonna be really nice. I'm stoked that they, they said that they hit a 10, which is, which is fucking crazy. Speaking of though, the 651st watch, did you see our friend Scott's project? Okay, so there's big news today. Big car news. The BMW M3CS Handelstraz. The BMW M3CS Masturbatory Device Handshalters our contest winner. When we did the blood thing, the stem cell blood thing, to give away the prototype notice with the dark teal dial, it was so fucking beautiful. The winner was a dude named Scott, who was a product manager at BMW on the 3 and 4 series line, and this is one of his projects.

[Zach Klawitter]

Whoa.

[Matt Farah]

So he DMed us this morning and was like, hey, hey, check out my shit. Made a thing. That's cool. So this is a manual transmission, rear drive BMW M3CS with an asterisk because it has the 473 horsepower motor, not the 550 horsepower CS motor. When you have to get the all wheel drive to get all the power, they won't give you the full beans with the rear drive. But it's a manual sedan that looks like a CS and is light. It's got a bunch of lightweighty bits. You can look. Look where they are, by the way. Recognize that? Streets like nobody invited me. The fuck, bro.

[Zach Klawitter]

Let's go. This is the evening, like 5:00pm, 6:00pm yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Good glow.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yep.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Good drift drifting around the U turn. Yeah.

[Zach Klawitter]

As one does.

[Matt Farah]

You do need that kind of power to carry that as a full drift. This is a very long corner that you need like over 400 horsepower. Really, to slide. I couldn't slide that Escort there. I could slide the Escort on the bus stop with 208 horsepower, but I couldn't hold that whole thing.

[Zach Klawitter]

Well, it also had sticky tires, right?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Like racing tires.

[Zach Klawitter]

That makes sense.

[Matt Farah]

How cool is that, right?

[Zach Klawitter]

It looks pretty good. It's really fun.

[Matt Farah]

$107,000 exclusively for North America. 0 to 60 and 4.1 top speed, 180m drivers package reduced techno violet metallic.

[Zach Klawitter]

Sorry, go ahead. Using carbon fiber reinforced plastic forged wheels, titanium muffler, and some buckets, they shave 75 pounds compared to the standard M3. But only if you get the carbon ceramics. So A little bit.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klawitter]

I mean, people will be more drawn to it because, I mean, £75 with the manual, though.

[Matt Farah]

So it's branded as CS and it's a manual. That'll be enough to do her.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yep.

[Matt Farah]

And then, you know, like M Engineering or whoever the BMW equivalent is, will give you the 550 horsepower, like. Right? Oh, no problem.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah. Three minutes later. Carbon stripes look pretty good.

[Matt Farah]

It looks good in red, I gotta say. I mean, I still don't love the kidneys, but the rest of the car in this color looks pretty good.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah, These are like bronze gold wheels.

[Matt Farah]

Those look nice with like a shadow carbon stripe. I was giving Scott a little bit of crap about there not being the comfort seats and. Yeah. Oh, well, it's a cs. What do you guys think it is?

[Zach Klawitter]

A cs. Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

But no cup holder. But it's a cs manual gearbox. Loving it.

[Zach Klawitter]

I like this pattern on the seats for people listening. It's got wave. It's got, like. Oh, yeah. It's like a wavy texture down the center of the seat that looks like distorted red waves. That's kind of cool. All right, well, when we get to drive it, when do we get to drift into the streets? That's what's important.

[Matt Farah]

There apparently will be press cars, so we will have to check that out. The. Right there. Oh. We could talk about either the insane, like, mechum results this past weekend. Some of this shit is crazy. And Enzo crossed $10 million.

[Zach Klawitter]

What?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. I don't. I don't know what's going on here.

[Zach Klawitter]

Wasn't the new high six a few. Yeah, this was months ago.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Briefly, though, even if you.

[Zach Klawitter]

There. If you.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Is that recent results?

[Zach Klawitter]

Oh, wait, that's from.

[Matt Farah]

That's.

[Zach Klawitter]

That's a different one. That's the one.

[Matt Farah]

No, you want. What we want is. I believe it's in. Jesus Christ. Oh, here we go. Down. Where's that silver Enzo? That's indie. We want indie Filter by indie. That's it. That's this one? Yeah.

[Zach Klawitter]

Okay.

[Matt Farah]

This was.

[Zach Klawitter]

This.

[Matt Farah]

I just saw some of the. Some of these were really, really wild. The California Spider. Understandable. Let's see the silver Enzo 2003. It is. It is apparently the only one in this color, and it's a good color, which is Grigio Titanio. But this soldier. Does it have an exact number? It doesn't give you the exact number.

[Zach Klawitter]

I think. I think Mecham hides it well.

[Matt Farah]

Their Instagram had it for sure. The Instagram. Their Instagram had it on it. And it started. It was 10.

[Zach Klawitter]

Okay, I'll find it.

[Matt Farah]

Which. Come on. Like, what is happening? I don't know what. I don't know what's going on with this, where in a year, we go from, you know, 3 to 5 to 10. And also we've got the 911 reimagined by Singer Classic Commission.

[Zach Klawitter]

1.65 million 400 miles since it was built.

[Matt Farah]

400 miles. Highest ever recorded auction number for a Singer Classic.

[Zach Klawitter]

Oh, wow. I thought they were higher than that for classic.

[Matt Farah]

I know.

[Zach Klawitter]

I thought if you want to skip the line, it was two or more.

[Matt Farah]

No, the dlss are all high twos, but classics are all. Have all historically been like 900 to, like, 1 5. Okay, wait, go back up all the way to the top. The slideshow at the top, right, with the California spider. California spider. 18 million, but a huge number. A fabulous Result for a California Spider, but it's still a California Spider.

[Zach Klawitter]

A very, very famous car.

[Matt Farah]

These cars have been over 10 for 20 fucking years, so not surprising at all there. 10,230,000 for the Ferrari Enzo.

[Zach Klawitter]

This might be the best looking color on an Enzo I've ever seen. And I'm not usually drawn to silver.

[Matt Farah]

I agree with you.

[Zach Klawitter]

But I think this is the best looking Enzo I've ever seen.

[Matt Farah]

I think. Yeah, I think you're right. I do think it is a very, very nice looking color. It's all class.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah. I mean, I thought. I thought gray on new cars was played out, but on this thing, like this looks pretty awesome. With red interior, interior, rented seats at least. That's pretty hot.

[Matt Farah]

It is.

[Zach Klawitter]

It's pretty hot.

[Matt Farah]

But 10?

[Zach Klawitter]

I mean, for me.

[Matt Farah]

No.

[Zach Klawitter]

I don't know. I don't know what's happening. Like, we said this all the time. Like, people have so much money, and maybe they also have all the other things that are cool and they just go, oh, I've always wanted one of those. And I have 40% more money after three months because of the market than I do when the yellow one sold for six. So, sure. I don't know. This is crazy.

[Matt Farah]

Essentially, you're right. And special Ferraris, particularly in unique specifications, are now like a known and encouraged asset class. Your financial advisor will tell you, yeah, go in hard on that. Especially if you're worth. Let's just say, and again, we're talking about silly people, fantasy money right now. But if you're worth 200 million. I bet if I was worth 200 million, my actual financial advisor, who I do work with, would be like, so you think that this will not really go down like much? Right? And I would go, no, I don't. I think it could go up a lot. It could go down some. It'll probably stay right where it is. She would go, okay, buy it, like, without. That would be the whole conversation. Right?

[Zach Klawitter]

This is 5% of your net worth. If you're worth $200 million. That's insane.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. So anyway, I mean, it's crazy money and it's crazy way, but just the escalation of this car in one year.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yes. That's the really surprising is bananas. Cause let's think the yellow one was six, and that set the record for Enzo's. It was literally earlier this year.

[Matt Farah]

If you paid six for the yellow, I bet you're fucking annoyed that you didn't just get this one. Almost nobody.

[Zach Klawitter]

But wasn't there one yellow? I Feel like.

[Matt Farah]

No, I think there's a couple. It was like single digits yellow, but yeah, this is great.

[Zach Klawitter]

This is a more popular color than yellow. Absolutely.

[Matt Farah]

I think there's two that are blue and the blues are fucking insane. They're so good.

[Zach Klawitter]

Blue and tan. The Ferrari looks good. The light. The light blue or the dark blue look amazing.

[Matt Farah]

Ferrari knows how to do a blue. They do it reluctantly, but they do. Oh, you get this. Speaking of Ferrari sidebar, I have been invited through road and track, actually to Tenerife to drive the 849 Spider.

[Zach Klawitter]

Cool.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klawitter]

Okay.

[Matt Farah]

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[Zach Klawitter]

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[Zach Klawitter]

Yes, absolutely.

[Matt Farah]

Going as a print journalist is just a delight.

[Zach Klawitter]

Well, when you go as a print journalist, you are a sponge for information, Right? All you're doing is taking notes, driving experiences, thinking of things, and at worst, I think they have to write the article on the flight home if the deadline is soon.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klawitter]

But as a video journalist, the information is going two directions because you have to present it back immediately to the camera on the location. So for me, you, everybody, that is the more stressful part of it.

[Matt Farah]

While you're also like getting video, worried about the audio, you know, if you're by yourself, it's an extremely high pressure situation. You're like negotiating with the manufacturer to get like two extra laps of track time to get a couple extra shots.

[Zach Klawitter]

You're running a production while also trying to ingest, digest and then express information.

[Matt Farah]

Again, not complaining. It's a fabulous way to earn a living. There's people that dig fucking ditches, but compared to being a print journalist, it's nothing like that. That shit is. That's living, baby. So that'll be fun. Oh, two more funny things. I talked to my service advisor at the Porsche dealer today. It wasn't. So the bushings at the front were done, but they don't actually just replace the bushing, they replace the entire control arm assembly.

[Zach Klawitter]

Oh. Cause sometimes a lot of cars now the bushings are not serviceable. They just give you a new arm. Yeah, they actually did that with mine because it was cheaper to just get the new lower front control arm to put the bushing in and out.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, yeah, so they're doing that. It'll be done tomorrow though.

[Zach Klawitter]

Cool.

[Matt Farah]

But yeah, it also like, there was just this hint, this very faint. You know, I said it was creaking the front end a little bit when you go over articulations. But there was also this. Just a hint of what felt like this light electrical resistance and low speed of the steering. And he was like, he was like, yeah, that's from. That was the con. The. The control arm was causing that. And I was like, oh, I'm glad. I'm glad. I actually felt that.

[Zach Klawitter]

Oh. Because the bushing was loose.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. It was like a very subtle electrical resistance. It was weird. Like the E pass was trying to like counter it.

[Zach Klawitter]

Inch.

[Matt Farah]

Whoa. Yeah.

[Zach Klawitter]

So it's pushing back against you as you were turning it because it was feeling. Getting wrong information.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klawitter]

Whoa.

[Matt Farah]

It just had like a little extra force feedback. Like maybe like 1 or 2% only in that direction.

[Zach Klawitter]

Whatever. One direction?

[Matt Farah]

No, both directions. But only at very low speeds, like parking lot speeds. And you notice it more when reversing than going forward. But yeah, it was like most people would not, not like, I'm so great, but like most people wouldn't notice anything like this. They would not be. This is like really, really, really inside of like. You know, I've driven six taycans this year.

[Zach Klawitter]

Right.

[Matt Farah]

This isn't like this one's not like

[Zach Klawitter]

them, you know, and you've also driven that car since. For two years almost. So, you know, it was like when you got it and we put the wheels on, like you're very. You have to pay attention to that because you wanted to know, does it feel different now that it has these new wheels and new tires on?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

So fortunately, the dealer did not say anything about that.

[Zach Klawitter]

I felt a new sound in my car today. I was exiting 405 to and I got on that ramp and then all of a sudden I heard like. And I take my hands off the wheel. I go. Is the tire flat? No, still tracking straight. Like. I was trying to assess, you know, as I approach the exit what's going

[Matt Farah]

on, but very rarely. Good.

[Zach Klawitter]

No, never good.

[Matt Farah]

There's no butta butter.

[Zach Klawitter]

And it was. I could feel it through the seat a little bit. I went. Did I like run over a two by four or something that's like stuck to the tire now? But my brain started going to what's already a little wrong with the car that I have been meaning to address. Like the axle weeps a little bit, and I know I need to get it done, but I'm just. I need to take it to office, and I haven't done that yet. And I go, oh, man, did I just blow my diff up? And now it's seizing. Right now you're on the Highway 405. I'm on the 90, about to exit for Centinella. But I'm also going, can I drive home? I also have to go back to, you know, jury duty tomorrow. Da, da, da, da. And I get home, and I look at the front tire, and I see the largest nail I've ever seen stuck into my front right tire. Like, the head is the size of a quarter, and it's, like, as thick as. And so I think if they take it out to plug it, I mean, it's like a pinky finger. So we'll see.

[Matt Farah]

The whole nail is not just the head.

[Zach Klawitter]

No, the head is obviously much larger, but I could see a little bit of the shaft looking sideways. I'm like, that's not. That's not a wood screw. So we'll see.

[Matt Farah]

I'll tell you what. What? We'll see, because I have to go to the track tomorrow, and it's too many miles to just put on the Aston. Why don't you drive me? Why don't you take the Aston and you. Then you don't have to fix your tire to go to jury duty by tomorrow.

[Zach Klawitter]

Oh, what are you going to do? What are you going to drive?

[Matt Farah]

My paint car. Oh, cool.

[Zach Klawitter]

Okay. That would be helpful.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klawitter]

I will roll up today. Yesterday. No, today I arrived. Arrived at court in my car, left for lunch, and returned in a lift. And when I got picked up in a lift, I felt like I had a DUI case. I was fighting.

[Matt Farah]

Where is your car? It's at home.

[Zach Klawitter]

It's at home.

[Matt Farah]

Okay.

[Zach Klawitter]

I got home, it was like, two blocks, and then I looked and it was fine. But that would be helpful. That would be very helpful.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. You can.

[Zach Klawitter]

You can.

[Matt Farah]

You can roll the ass to jury duty.

[Zach Klawitter]

This will.

[Matt Farah]

I'm sure you'll be totally unbiased. So Zach. Because Zach has fucking jury duty, which is his civic duty, but he literally missed the DB12s in the canyons today. Fortunately, you have it over the weekend while I'm gone, so you can have some fun.

[Zach Klawitter]

But.

[Matt Farah]

But also the Zinger at the. Miss the Zinger at the track tomorrow, motherfucker.

[Zach Klawitter]

They're gonna make mad breakfast burritos.

[Matt Farah]

The Zinger and a Breakfast burrito. I might run a few laps in the pink car too. You should. I should.

[Zach Klawitter]

I mean, last time I was there, I drove my car on the streets. It was so fun.

[Matt Farah]

No, I did like three laps on. When I. I forgot to talk about on the podcast. I did like three laps in it while I was up there for the F1 race. And wow, it is a lot of torque. It is a lot of torque. And also the PS4s tires are really not enough for these kinds of speeds on the track. I mean, they're fine, but like I could fucking spin them in third.

[Zach Klawitter]

That makes sense.

[Matt Farah]

And you know, I can easily enter a corner with these brakes. I can easily enter a corner and this kind of speed faster and develop some understeer. Just like if I had stickier tires that I wouldn't have understeer. Like, it's like the car's set up for street driving. It's not set up for track driving.

[Zach Klawitter]

Right. You're getting used to closing speeds.

[Matt Farah]

But like, I mean, I got.

[Zach Klawitter]

You gotta slide it.

[Matt Farah]

No, I did good. It's very easy to slide. Great. It's very, very easy.

[Zach Klawitter]

Bring your pink car, throw a GoPro vertical from the back for the bus stop and just put that shot up social. But that's a good time.

[Matt Farah]

It is. It's really, really easy to slide. It's not hard at all.

[Zach Klawitter]

I saw a nice, like a pro white spider today with a red top and I was like, oh, oh, yeah.

[Matt Farah]

The white with the red works. Yeah. I mean there's another frozen berry one somewhere that has my, my interior, the two tone interior and has a red top. And it's a lot of red, man.

[Zach Klawitter]

It's too much.

[Matt Farah]

There's way too much red.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah, yeah.

[Matt Farah]

But on a white, white you could swing it. You probably have to have a black interior, though. You probably. Maybe if you did black interior, red belts, red, like just seat centers. That could probably work. You can make that work.

[Zach Klawitter]

I didn't get close enough for that, but I saw it go by. I was like, that's a good look. It'd be funny. It's like a classy color. But if you had the big engine, it'd be a sleeper. But that would be super helpful. I will have the most expensive car in the car park of court by probably a huge mar. Like the judge will look at me like, like, this is why I didn't let you off. Right.

[Matt Farah]

Do we know what the trial is yet?

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah, but I can't talk about it.

[Matt Farah]

What else was in this list before we. Before we move on from this Mecham thing, even though we've clearly already moved on, we did a 9.7 on a 1300 kilometer. Says a sub thousand mile. 95 Ferrari F50.

[Zach Klawitter]

Wow. Yeah, I'd rather drive this than the Enzo, but.

[Matt Farah]

But you wouldn't be driving. Driving it 1300 kilometers. Dude, that's a sitting there. Oh, you would drive it?

[Zach Klawitter]

I would drive it.

[Matt Farah]

Oh, you would buy it to drive.

[Zach Klawitter]

If I have $200 million and I know that I'm gonna die with $1 million, yeah. I would drive the hell out of it. We talk about this all the time. The goal would be to be wealthy enough to drive the thing and not care about it.

[Matt Farah]

I agree.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yes.

[Matt Farah]

I'd rather drive this than the Enzo for sure.

[Zach Klawitter]

Manual.

[Matt Farah]

And you'd save them. You'd save 600 grand. Grand in the process.

[Zach Klawitter]

There you go. It's a deal.

[Matt Farah]

600 grand. You know how much. You know what gas that is in an F50? That's a bunch of gas.

[Zach Klawitter]

How many services is that in an F50? Six.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, probably. I mean, or is it six? I bet a service on an F50 is like 80 to 100,000 for a major.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah, yeah.

[Matt Farah]

You. You take the car in half to do that shit where I wanna go to the radio. 8.5 for a LaFerrari. But that's delivery miles. So that car was like.

[Zach Klawitter]

But they're, they're huge, man. When we stood next to one at 10:10, I forget how big they are. That's a big car.

[Matt Farah]

They are. Yeah. It's not. It's not what I would personally spend that kind of scratch on.

[Zach Klawitter]

What do we got here? That's maybe a little more approachable.

[Matt Farah]

Approachable.

[Zach Klawitter]

I don't even know if that's the right defensive.

[Matt Farah]

I mean, this is clearly.

[Zach Klawitter]

This is the hypercar A. Yeah, clearly.

[Matt Farah]

Well, these were the.

[Zach Klawitter]

These were the.

[Matt Farah]

These were the big number stuff. Wow. Bugatti EB110 Super Sport GT350s. What about you? What you. What do you think about a little GT65 GT350?

[Zach Klawitter]

I want one so bad. And I make fun of my wife once a quarter for not buying the great replica that we passed on. And she's like. And I go, it's not her fault though.

[Matt Farah]

It's not her fault.

[Zach Klawitter]

She goes, why don't you go, why don't you go quarters on it with my stepdad and my. My brother in law? And I was like, that's a thing we could have done. And then I Feel like an idiot.

[Matt Farah]

All of these, though, are like, no fucking miles is the problem. Delivery miles.

[Zach Klawitter]

156 miles, 40 kilometers on a 935 race car.

[Matt Farah]

Like, dude, it bums me out that, like, just, you know, capitalism always beats car enthusiast. Like, it's so profitable to buy one of these things and then just park. Doesn't that suck? Yeah, like, that sucks, man.

[Zach Klawitter]

Very much sucks.

[Matt Farah]

Like, this is not why I, like, it's one thing if you have 40 cars. Okay, I get it. You can only drive cars so much. You work, you have kids, there's only so many places to go. But when it's like, dude, when you've had. When you've got a car that's 12 years old and it's got a thousand miles on it, like, what are you doing? Like, go somewhere for a weekend in your car. Come on.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah, there's low miles because you can only drive so many things. And then, and then there's just delivery miles where it's clear that you just bought it, bubbled it, and flipped it.

[Matt Farah]

This is a bummer. How about this? Maybe a little more approachable. 512tr 5 speed. Oh, yeah. Still probably 300,000 bucks. Very expensive, but a fucking fantastic analog front. Here you go.

[Zach Klawitter]

You like a boss Mustang?

[Matt Farah]

I do like a boss Mustang.

[Zach Klawitter]

That hood scoop is huge.

[Matt Farah]

Boss 429K cup code.

[Zach Klawitter]

Wow.

[Matt Farah]

So that's pretty fun. Big numbers down there. Big numbers.

[Zach Klawitter]

Really big numbers.

[Matt Farah]

But at the same. So at the same time, we've got some, like, huge numbers on blue chip stuff. I've. I've heard anecdotes of, you know, the, the Wednesday Thursdays of these auctions where it's, you know, random ass Bel Airs and Buick Regals and Pontiac Le Mans and, you know, just whatever, you know, nice. But in not significant cars, there are deals to be had.

[Zach Klawitter]

That's what I was hoping to find on here. But they don't post the, like an AMX.

[Matt Farah]

200.

[Zach Klawitter]

200 miles.

[Matt Farah]

207 miles. I'm sure that's affordable. 200 mile AMEX.

[Zach Klawitter]

All right, Mecom, if you're listening, start posting the things that sell on a Wednesday so that we can cover it.

[Matt Farah]

You know, that's 50 years, 200 miles. That's probably just. That's probably just in and out of trailers. You know what I mean?

[Zach Klawitter]

I feel like three people owned it. Someone owned it and bubbled it when they bought it new because they love the amx. And then it probably went to a museum and then to a person who has Obscure sensibilities.

[Matt Farah]

Can you search for a GT500? Do a little search there for Shelby GT500. I want. Yeah. 60. 67 Super Snake.

[Zach Klawitter]

These wheels are terrible.

[Matt Farah]

Those are. Those are those hubcaps. Those are white wall tires.

[Zach Klawitter]

Those are white walls on big, tall wheels.

[Matt Farah]

That one at the bottom is sort of similar to the. To the. The Revology car. That's kind of what I wanted to see, is like an original. I keep seeing this 427 cubic inch Police Interceptor V8.

[Zach Klawitter]

The cops chase me in this. I'm pulling over to talk to them.

[Matt Farah]

What's up, bro?

[Zach Klawitter]

Like, dude, that thing's awesome.

[Matt Farah]

427. 28th. Because I'm writing for 19,000 miles. I'm writing for Road and Track this month about how, you know, in. In some cases, like this Revology or that Borum Motorworks thing, the. The recreations are more expensive than the real things.

[Zach Klawitter]

Right. So you want to know what?

[Matt Farah]

I'd like to know what this actually sold for?

[Zach Klawitter]

Where could we find that information?

[Matt Farah]

Google the VIN number. Is that the VIN number? There you go. Serial number. Let's see if we can find that.

[Zach Klawitter]

Oh, Sotheby's.

[Matt Farah]

RM Sotheby's, huh?

[Zach Klawitter]

Oh, here we go. Hagerty has. It was sold for 400 grand. It was sold for 400 grand last January.

[Matt Farah]

Okay. All right. So it's. So it's a little bit more expensive than a Revology, which is like 380, but it's 19,000 miles. The vast majority of the will not have such low miles. You know what I mean?

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

So, like, the average 67 GT 500 will not be 400 grand. It'll probably be 250 to 300, maybe.

[Zach Klawitter]

That's a good question. Like, were these cars driven more when they were new? Because they were still the most expensive Mustang, you know, so they're bought by people who maybe. Maybe the same problem existed. People had too many cars or had too much work or they were just driven a lot more. Because it started 50 years ago. I don't know.

[Matt Farah]

I think these cars were not. I don't think there were very many cars that were collectible from new in the 1960s. You know, in the 1960s, most people who bought even very fancy cars used them as their car. You know what I mean? Like, it wasn't like. And maybe they had a few cars, but it wasn't like there weren't a lot of these collections in the 60s where people bought a new thing and then just stuck it away in plastic.

[Zach Klawitter]

That happened that's true.

[Matt Farah]

That didn't happen starting until like the 80s, but yeah. Okay, good. Condition 168 on Hagerty Price.

[Zach Klawitter]

Guys, they don't have the miles listed here. I was curious, but.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, But I mean, 19,000 is low for a 67. That's a low mile car by anyone's standards. Yeah. All right, good to know, good to know. Oh, dude, before we get to the questions.

[Zach Klawitter]

Fucking

[Matt Farah]

cricket. With an assist from Monty. Actually, I should say Monty and cricket. It's unclear who actually hunted and caught the bird, but Monty brought the live bird into my house.

[Zach Klawitter]

Cool. How big a bird? What are we talking about? Tennis ball?

[Matt Farah]

No, it was slightly smaller than this water bottle. Skin like a finch. Like, you know, dub and dubber. Like Petey. It was like Petey.

[Zach Klawitter]

It was like Petey.

[Matt Farah]

Everyone knows. Everyone's gonna know what I mean when I say this pretty bird, like Petey from Dumb and Dumber. It was like that and mauled the out of this thing.

[Zach Klawitter]

Fix it with masking tape, dude.

[Matt Farah]

But it did. But didn't I. I managed to like stop. It was cricket by this point from like killing it, but like, only so it wasn't like just a disgusting mess in my house. Like, it was essentially like it was gonna die.

[Zach Klawitter]

Right, but you wanted to prolong that experience.

[Matt Farah]

No, I. I had no. I took it outside and put it in towel and no, I didn't shoot it.

[Zach Klawitter]

I know.

[Matt Farah]

I snapped its fucking neck.

[Zach Klawitter]

Did you?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, I'd seen him. I see him do it all the time in quail hunts. You know when a bird is wounded?

[Zach Klawitter]

Right.

[Matt Farah]

I see them, I see the quail guides do it like a hundred times a fucking shit shoot. So I've seen it. I've never done it, but I've seen it done. I didn't enjoy it.

[Zach Klawitter]

I bet.

[Matt Farah]

Didn't enjoy it at all. Yeah, did not enjoy it.

[Zach Klawitter]

When we first moved into our new place, a bird hit our window and got like, hurt its wing. Oh, no, no, actually, I take that back. It didn't hit our window. Sarah found it by the pool. Like she saw this bird, like trying to get around and. Broken leg, broken wing. We bring it inside and we text a friend of mine who was like a vet tech. We're like, hey, what can we do for this? Where can we bring it? And she goes, well, you could just twist the tail. And I mean, this, this woman, like, is a farm chick. And I went, what? And she goes, look, that's the quickest way to do it. And that's what they're they're not gonna do that, the vet, but they're gonna euthanize it. So you could just do it and save yourself a drive. We hung up the phone. We're like, no. We tried to, like, feed it and hope it got better, and it died. It died in the night.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klawitter]

So, yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. You should have just ripped it, I guess. No, it's gnarly. That's fucking gnarly. I didn't enjoy it. It was a tiny little bird. I had felt no resistance whatsoever, but I did not enjoy it.

[Zach Klawitter]

See, in our situation, there's no blood, and we've watched too many videos of, like, person heals. Crow. Crow is now friends with their dog forever. I mean, you know, me and my wife and so we.

[Matt Farah]

These are AI, dude.

[Zach Klawitter]

No, no, these are real. These are very real.

[Matt Farah]

They're all AI.

[Zach Klawitter]

These are very real. But we were very optimistic that it might come back, you know, and it might heal itself up.

[Matt Farah]

They're all AI. So 100% fully.

[Zach Klawitter]

No, no, no. These are very real videos. This shit happens infrequently.

[Matt Farah]

Sure. I just. I'm so proud of my girls, of Cricket and Monty for catching a bird, definitely. That's fucking some real shit, dude. I really like that.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

They. But, man, I did not a. I was sort of hoping it couldn't still fly, because that's all I needed is a fucking bird flying around my house.

[Zach Klawitter]

And it's hard to catch, dude. It's so hard.

[Matt Farah]

No, fortunately, it was wounded enough that it was not that hard to catch for me once I got. Well, as soon as I saw Cricket knew that her time with the bird was up. So she growled. And this cat loves me. She growls at me, grabbed the bird and took the fuck off running. And I was like, oh, no. So I'm trying to herd her. Her to at least take off running back into the backyard. And I've talked about this a lot. My backyard is walled in so the cats can't get out. So during supervised time, I let them in the backyard when I'm there. But, like, I'm trying to get her back into the backyard, and she does not want to go outside. So she's running, like, through the fireplace, like, back and forth. And eventually I pick her up with the bird in her mouth and I take her outside with it. She finally puts it down, then I put it down.

[Zach Klawitter]

Right.

[Matt Farah]

But fucking.

[Zach Klawitter]

It's a prideful moment, though.

[Matt Farah]

Oh, it was great.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

I said, hannah. I was like, hannah. They brought a live bird into the house and she was like, did you give them treats and say they were good? I was like, no, no.

[Zach Klawitter]

You took their feet away.

[Matt Farah]

Chase them around the fucking house. Well, then I remember that we went to the Hoity Toity Playa Vista Farmer's market where you can buy dead dried birds.

[Zach Klawitter]

We have done that for our dog.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. So then Hannah was like, no, you have to. We have them in the cupboard. You have to give them a dead baby quail, which I did. And Cricket, they're so crazy. Cricket ate a dried baby quail. Her in two bites. Chomp, chomp, gone. It's like, holy shit. She was charted up. Just fired up. Just ready. Just ready. Ready.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Snuggled with me all night. Was, like, very happy with herself.

[Zach Klawitter]

The whole like, hunt, hunt, kill, eat,

[Matt Farah]

sleep, hunt, catch, kill, eat groups.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah. From the cat book, dude.

[Matt Farah]

All they. They all. After hunting these birds all day, they slept all night, so. Well, they were. They were.

[Zach Klawitter]

Because their bloodlust had been, you know, quenched. Yeah. The thirst had been quenched and they finally.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, for sure.

[Zach Klawitter]

Like a vampire. Indeed.

[Matt Farah]

Let's talk to the people. Patreon.com the Smoking Tire podcast where you can join in the fun. You can ask questions for the show, watch the live stream, get the show the day it's recorded, or, you know, shortly thereafter, it's the day it's recorded. Get the show without ads. Get extra show every month. Get access guaranteed to collabs and things like the notice Canyon Watch and early access to our next watch. It's going to be so cool and a whole lot more. Plus, you're supporting these folks that fucking yap at you in your car for three hours a week. You know what I'm saying? By the way, I think we've booked another live show. So we have Detroit Woodward, Dream Cruise. It's gonna be Thursday, August 13th. And then I'm pretty sure we're gonna go to Miami for this watch and car festival thing that's happening. Spike is going to. And I think we have a live show there.

[Zach Klawitter]

Cool.

[Matt Farah]

And it's going to be one of those deals where, like at Heritage or like at Willow Reimagine, where if you buy a ticket to the event or luft, it comes with, you know, it's not a separate ticket.

[Zach Klawitter]

When is that?

[Matt Farah]

November. November.

[Zach Klawitter]

I mean, That's. Answer's fine.

[Matt Farah]

8th, 9th, 7th, 8th, 7th, 8th.

[Zach Klawitter]

Cool.

[Matt Farah]

And we're going to try. We're working on more shows, but these, these are the shows that are like.

[Zach Klawitter]

We're working on a very cool, big one for Ella but it hasn't come together yet. We can't announce it yet.

[Matt Farah]

Ping pong my ding dong says I'm almost two weeks off of my burble tune in my F30 without relapsing and turn it back on. It's been nice ripping the car and just having the way it sounded, the way it sounds without the burble tune. If you're over 30, you know you need to stop with that side note. My 3 year old says the blow off valve on my Gen 2 raptor sounds like the truck is ripping toots, so I can't win. Ripping toots is fun. If they use that in a video, the DB12 does that. The DB12 has a little blow off noise when you lift.

[Zach Klawitter]

That's kind of cool.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, car's real fucking fast. It's very, very, very, very fast. Forza ate my free time. Says says I'm ready to buy a JDM import an R34 with an RB25. So that's an R34 Skyline non GTR. It's like a GTST or an R32 with an RB26. So that's a GTR. Both seem to be coming in at 65k. Is the gap between these options and the R34 GTR largely a rareness, collectability gap, or is the R34 GTR really that much better than either a lower optioned R34 or an older GTR? It's a good question.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Okay. I would say the gap from an R34 GTR to an R32 GTR is largely aesthetic electronic.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah, the computing power went up a lot, a lot between the 32 and 33 and then the 34.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Aesthetic, electronic and then your sixth gear. Outside of that, the driving experience is like fairly similar, slightly bigger car too. Right.

[Zach Klawitter]

But like it still feels pretty much the same.

[Matt Farah]

The 34 has more power, but it's heavier. Like the 32 is lighter. You can essentially have them all end up in the same place if you want. The big thing with the 32 GTR versus 34 is the ceramic wheel turbos, which can easily be be changed and upgraded. And it only becomes a problem if you're running like big power. I would say if the dream is an R34 GTR, then an R32 GTR is closer to the dream than an R34 non GTR.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah, I agree with that.

[Matt Farah]

An R34 non. I can't believe an R34 non GTR is being sold for $65,000.

[Zach Klawitter]

But now the 34 GTRs are like 200 plus.

[Matt Farah]

That is with respect to my friends who import cars and know the market better than me. Fucking crazy.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yep.

[Matt Farah]

A rear drive non GTR R34 is like a $25,000 driving experience.

[Zach Klawitter]

I have never driven. I don't think. No, I have not driven one. I mean, I've driven an R34 GT R and it feels like a fantastic Japanese E46 M3 with all wheel drive and turbos. It on, on it. But with the RB25 slightly smaller.

[Matt Farah]

It's less.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah, it's less.

[Matt Farah]

But if you have a rear drive one with less, it's like a nice. It's actually a nice, you know, it is a very nice car. It's a slick, a slick inline six powertrain, you know, just like the 26.

[Zach Klawitter]

Is it basically a sophisticated like 240 SX? Yeah. Okay.

[Matt Farah]

Much very. A very sophisticated 240 SX because the actual Skyline platform like is good. And when you remove the driving from the front tires, you end up with better steering feel and things like that. So it's like a nice car, but like 65 grand. Jesus Christ.

[Zach Klawitter]

Well, but if you think about it like, is it closer in driving to a Mark 4 Supra, or does it actually feel a little bit more athletic than that?

[Matt Farah]

It's been a long time. Tough to tell. Yeah, tough to tell.

[Zach Klawitter]

It's expensive. I would go R32 because it says GTR. The market will always know what it is, always want it. There's a market Obviously for the GTS Ts they're out there, but it's smaller. Yeah, the R34 non GTR people are into it obviously, but it just doesn't have as much cachet.

[Matt Farah]

I never would have considered a GTST to be a collectible, you know, a real collector grade car. You know, like I always was like when I drove one, I was like, oh, this would be like a great, like fun, just like car to just use as a car. Not to like invest or rip strictly on the weekends. Like it wasn't enough to be more than like just a nice car, but it was a very nice car.

[Zach Klawitter]

That's interesting because it makes me think of like 911T versus 911turbo. The R34 GTR is the turbo. Now you've got only rear wheel drive drive. It's a simpler car, lighter steering, all that stuff. But for some reason it's just not seen in that light. Or maybe it is. Maybe it's coming into that. I don't know.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. I mean, they're only like. The RB25 is only like. It really is like 225 horsepower. It's not that much horsepower. I think there's an aftermarket for it. There's like, stuff you can do. But that's just my impression of it was not. Not that that is a investment grade kind of car. Maybe I'm wrong, though. I haven't watched that market at all. LlCardier1 to 10. How cool would a C5 pace car be as a track and weekend toy? Keep it aesthetically unchanged. But coilovers and send it. I am not. Were there any C5 pace car coupes? I think they were all convertibles.

[Zach Klawitter]

I think they look ridiculous.

[Matt Farah]

They do look ridiculous.

[Zach Klawitter]

And if you're into that and you're down to get. Get out every day wearing your yellow crocs and be like, that's right. I drive a spongebob cartoon car.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, sure. But can you just google C5 Corvette pace car and let's see if any coupes come up. I've only ever seen convertibles. Convertible, convertible, convertible. Convertible, convertible, Convertible, convertible, convertible. Yeah. That's not real. That's the 2003 I'm talking about. The one that we're talking about is the fucking neon wheels. That's what we're talking about here. And those are all convertibles. So I'll tell you what, There could be a fun bit of irony in faking the livery on a coupe for a track day beater if you wanted

[Zach Klawitter]

to spend money on a vinyl wrap. Yes. If you want to spend money on

[Matt Farah]

a wrap, build an ugly car for the lulz.

[Zach Klawitter]

Build. That's right. And there are people out there that have that money and mindset and you know what? Go for it. You know what?

[Matt Farah]

For real, if we were at a place where we could find a Corvette that was appropriate for lemons slash champ, I would shanty livery this on a lemons. A lemons car, for sure.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yes.

[Matt Farah]

So anyway, yeah, I don't think there's a coupe. Need a coupe. Saw spin blue does that. Am I missing some kind of thing?

[Zach Klawitter]

Saw spin blue? I don't know.

[Matt Farah]

Anytime you step into a truly light sports car, it's almost enjoyable. Lightness adds so much value in terms of performance. And with cars getting gargantuan. When will someone come out with a new lightweight but not Miata small sports car that's designed to dance with you? I like how he says new night. Lightweight but Not Miata small parentheses £2,400 Sports cars design to dance with you. A miata is almost £2,400. If you made a Miata any bigger, it would get heavier than that.

[Zach Klawitter]

True.

[Matt Farah]

£2,400 is like.

[Zach Klawitter]

I mean, GR86 is the next neighbor. I think in terms of both lightness, size, cost.

[Matt Farah]

I mean that is the car.

[Zach Klawitter]

That's it.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klawitter]

Right.

[Matt Farah]

In terms of new cars. Well, Toyota has talked about a possible Mr. 2. Right. That might use the GR Corolla three cylinder as a possibility. That it's supposed to be supposedly mid engine, maybe all wheel drive. Hopefully it's not. Hopefully rear wheel drive. There's some hope there. But that's, you know, light is really hard, man. And there's not a lot of profit in light.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yep.

[Matt Farah]

You know, people, it's like light cars, like Mexican food. People say they love it, but they're not willing to pay a fucking fortune for for it, you know, because the

[Zach Klawitter]

cheap stuff is so good, you just,

[Matt Farah]

you don't, you just don't need it. And people, people are, people are.

[Zach Klawitter]

Well, there's a gulf, right? Like if the car is light and cheap, people are fine with it because they go, well, it's light because it's cheap. And then if it's light and expensive, they go, right. Because they had to use carbon fiber and Gordon Murray had to fly in and you know, think and do stuff like that in between. It's expensive. I want stuff for my money.

[Matt Farah]

Right?

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Like we just talked with those, those longbow guys and, and I don't want to get too into it because they don't have a car for us to drive yet. But you know, lightweight sports car, not much of an interior.

[Zach Klawitter]

Very true. Yeah, their prototype interior was.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Basically swingers and singers.

[Zach Klawitter]

This question dude is so funny.

[Matt Farah]

Wait, let me thank you for warning me to read that first. I'm glad this matches up with the fucking username though. My partner and I opened our relationship and now it's time for us to start meeting fun, lucky couples. God, I hope this is real. If you had to pick a car to pick up couples at the 25k, 50k and 100k price points, what would you choose for some extra luck? This is a fabulous question.

[Zach Klawitter]

My favorite question.

[Matt Farah]

And we will need the input of queer shifting gears for the queer angle of this because I'm only able to give you a straight swingers perspective. I'm not really sure about the queer

[Zach Klawitter]

perspective or if it even matter or if there is a.

[Matt Farah]

There might not be.

[Zach Klawitter]

It may not matter, but it might.

[Matt Farah]

Car enthusiasm is universal.

[Zach Klawitter]

It also might. Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

All right, so if you are trying to fuck another couple using a car, the answer that immediately comes to mind is Bentley Turbo R. This is a swinger's vehicle.

[Zach Klawitter]

It really is.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. You've been pimping since. Been pimping.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah. If that person pulls up to your house, like drinking a martini while driving, you're like, all right, you know what you're in for. Like, not an ascot, but open shirt.

[Matt Farah]

For sure.

[Zach Klawitter]

You're ready, you know, down to like the naval type thing. Yeah, right.

[Matt Farah]

So 20, that'll be your 25k. I mean, it's not going to get you great Turbo R, but it'll get you a runner. 50k. What are we swagging with 50k now? Do you have to put the other couple in the car?

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah, you do. I think you're going on a double date of some kind.

[Matt Farah]

I don't know what the entry point is. Well, no. Okay, hang on. 50. What are you doing at 50?

[Zach Klawitter]

We're going brand new. Well, no, we're not going brand new price. We're going for anything. Toyota Century.

[Matt Farah]

Oh.

[Zach Klawitter]

For two reasons. It's interesting, it's different, it shows creativity, which might come into play later, but also it's a Toyota. It's a responsible choice, even though it's an interesting one. And that means these people, whoever picks me up in a Toyota Century, I bet they get tested because they, they're not reckless. You know, this isn't a boat tail riv with like cigarette burns in it. Like, you know, those people will be fun. But you're going to the doctor the next day. Like you're getting checked.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klawitter]

I go Toyota Century.

[Matt Farah]

That's very good. 50k. It's gonna be a rolling heavy van. It's gonna have. It's gonna have a round porthole. No, it's gonna be a good one.

[Zach Klawitter]

Okay.

[Matt Farah]

It's gonna be a Dodger boss van.

[Zach Klawitter]

There you go.

[Matt Farah]

That can go to a track day on the weekends and then in the paddock.

[Zach Klawitter]

Well, because the back is open. Yeah, it's empty. But carp with carpet.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Well, you have to full interior it out.

[Zach Klawitter]

Why?

[Matt Farah]

To in.

[Zach Klawitter]

Exactly.

[Matt Farah]

Why?

[Zach Klawitter]

Interior gets in the way.

[Matt Farah]

No, it's got a shag part of the floor.

[Zach Klawitter]

That's all I need. Okay.

[Matt Farah]

Shade's got a shag carpet.

[Zach Klawitter]

Well, if it's a race van, you got to take the seats out of the truck.

[Matt Farah]

No, no, no, no. I've already solved this problem. Your seats are in floor inflatable. You have a whole inflatable it adds almost no weight, but feel full. You'll just fill it out. Right. Full suite of inflatable furniture I would

[Zach Klawitter]

like to add as an option because they'll have a roll cage for the track. You could have Sex Swing hanging from roll cage once you park.

[Matt Farah]

Why are we doing podcasts? Why don't we have a business?

[Zach Klawitter]

Cars?

[Matt Farah]

Why don't we have a business instead of. Let's just call it Swinger. It'll steal their logo.

[Zach Klawitter]

Open the door, rent the building next to the Singer Zinger and Swinger say

[Matt Farah]

every load is important.

[Zach Klawitter]

Oh, my God. Singer. Singer would get all of our packages that are, you know, the UPS person's like, oh, it's gotta be a typo. And it's just like, here's Sex Swing.

[Matt Farah]

We'll move in right next door. Is that what you're saying?

[Zach Klawitter]

Yes.

[Matt Farah]

Between Singer and Zinger. And Zinger.

[Zach Klawitter]

Exactly.

[Matt Farah]

It'll be Singer, Zinger and Swing.

[Zach Klawitter]

Right. And the boxes will get all mixed up. It'll be fantastic.

[Matt Farah]

So for a hundo, if you want to. I mean, I'm going to. It might be. It might sound shameless, but the Myers Manx resort order, which is the tube, the four seater, the four seat, Meyers Manx says, you know, sparkly paint job, shag carpet.

[Zach Klawitter]

Very good point.

[Matt Farah]

Tassels on the Bimini top. I'm ready to bone. And I have weed.

[Zach Klawitter]

It does. You can't bone in the car.

[Matt Farah]

No, but that's okay.

[Zach Klawitter]

These other vehicles kind of accomplish that

[Matt Farah]

as soon as you get there. Gul Yellow says, is there a correct way to operate a watch that has a sweep secondhand as part of a chronograph function? Let it run all the time or leave it parked, or is it overthinking it and a do what you feel type of thing?

[Zach Klawitter]

I don't understand any of this question.

[Matt Farah]

So if you have a chronograph, like, I'm wearing my Speedmaster right now, the seconds hand is the little sub dial here. It's not the big hand. So some people that have chronographs, they like to just run the chronograph all the time so that the seconds hand just goes around like a three hander watch does. So the question is, is there a quote, correct way to do it? Do you just run the chronograph all the time? Do you not run the chronograph all the time? What do you.

[Zach Klawitter]

Do you have a large seconds hand going around?

[Matt Farah]

Because I just started the chronograph, I just turned it off. Normally I don't normally.

[Zach Klawitter]

I thought you meant. Oh, that's the second hand running all the time. The other one has to be started manually.

[Matt Farah]

Correct. So that's the question. So the harshness of the, of a chronograph is in the stop, start and reset. It's not in the like running. So if you leave it running all the time, there's like a little more drag on your powertrain. Like, think like towing a trailer. So your power reserve will be slightly less while running the chronograph.

[Zach Klawitter]

But you're going through your battery more quickly. If it was an ev.

[Matt Farah]

If it was an ev, well, you have a spring, it'll go through your spring more quickly. And because it's. Well, my watch is a handmast, hand wound watch. So that may matter, but in terms of wear and tear, it will not wear and tear more to run the chronograph all the time. Just to stop, start, reset, stop, start, reset. And again, it's meant to be used, so you'd have to do it a lot to really cause any kind of fucking damage. So I don't run the chronographs all the time, but I know people that do. And it ain't that weird. I'm gonna say no correct way to do it. There's just a way that could potentially make. You need to service it once every nine years instead of once every 10 years. You know what I mean? Like that kind of thing.

[Zach Klawitter]

As an aggressive capitalist, which I am, we know this. I would want to have a watch that only has one secondhand because you have redundant. You have a job that's being done by two people right now and you don't need that. So get rid of one of them, save some money, buy a new.

[Matt Farah]

Have you ever used a split seconds chronograph?

[Zach Klawitter]

What is that?

[Matt Farah]

It can time two laps at the same time.

[Zach Klawitter]

I have not.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, it's pretty fancy shit.

[Zach Klawitter]

It does seem fancy.

[Matt Farah]

It's cool.

[Zach Klawitter]

You gotta like stand there and click, click as the car goes by.

[Matt Farah]

No, it's got an extra button. And so you start the chronograph and then when. If two cars start at the same time and then you hit a button when the first car crosses the line and then when the second car crosses the line and it pauses and it shows you the gap of like whatever second.

[Zach Klawitter]

That's cool. Back before iPhone and like digital timing, that would be handy.

[Matt Farah]

You can also, you can leave one of the hands running and freeze the other one. And that's the complication they use to time continuous Lapse like at Le Mans.

[Zach Klawitter]

That's how you would then sit there with the clipboards.

[Matt Farah]

Right, right, right. One of them continues and you freeze the other one, write it down and then hit a button and it catches back up. That's a split seconds chronograph. So a lot of those like famous like Heuer stopwatches that are on the clip and shit, that's what those are. Yeah. They're fucking dope. Desmoldering rim. My wife is pushing me to sell my old cars and buy a newer car. I have an 05 Vette convertible with big cam heads and nitrous. Nice. A Camaro. The single turbo, 900 wheel horsepower. And a Mini Cooper S with suspension and bolt ons. I like the spread.

[Zach Klawitter]

This person's fun.

[Matt Farah]

I like the spread a lot. That's a good time. I think I'll have more fun with what I've established than getting into something new. If I sold everything for top dollar, maybe 50k and I don't think I'll get a car that will scratch what these three could do.

[Zach Klawitter]

You sure as shit won't.

[Matt Farah]

You're very smart. You're very smart. If your old cars and these are not that old. A 2012, a 2011 and 05, they're not that old. If they're reliable and not like just a drain on the bank account, yeah, you're probably better off keeping them. Cause assuming you did these mods and didn't buy them modded, the longer you keep them, the better your dollar is on your mods. Like the best time to mod your car is as soon as you buy it. And the best dollar for value for your mods is to keep that car for a long time. Because no one you sell that car to is gonna give you any kind of value for those mods.

[Zach Klawitter]

Stays perfect $.

[Matt Farah]

So the long if you're going to mod your car, the longer you keep it, the better your value.

[Zach Klawitter]

I can't think of anything new. I mean this person, they like heroin, you know. 900 horsepower Camaro, big nitrous on a vet. And then this Mini Cooper, which is probably like their little slot machine car. Like this person likes. Big adrenaline. And there's nothing you'll get for 50 grand that will be as fast or crazy or interesting. Interesting.

[Matt Farah]

I completely agree. I completely agree. Anything you're gonna buy is gonna be dull by comparison. And you're gonna start putting money into that.

[Zach Klawitter]

Exactly. That's like. I was like Ariel, Adam is probably close, but not fast enough in a straight line. And Then you start modding it and that'll be expensive.

[Matt Farah]

If you like what you have, there's no better financial plan than just to keep it.

[Zach Klawitter]

Just.

[Matt Farah]

Just don't do anything.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah, I think that's probably it, right? Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Is this it? Last one.

[Zach Klawitter]

No more Sorry.

[Matt Farah]

USS Enter thighs says if and when the new STI gets released, what kind of changes would you like to see that could improve it dynamically?

[Zach Klawitter]

More horsepower. Yelling away from the mic because I've yelled this before.

[Matt Farah]

I'd like it to be a BRZ and not a wrx.

[Zach Klawitter]

That's a cool idea.

[Matt Farah]

I'd like it to be a BRZ STI with a turbo. How about that? How about them motherfucking apple?

[Zach Klawitter]

Those are great apples.

[Matt Farah]

And maybe a Lyft, like, maybe it's an st, like a rally.

[Zach Klawitter]

It's not a BRZ safari. It wouldn't be that. But if they gave the brz, if they gave the BRZ good horsepower and called it the sti, I think everyone would be pretty. Well, it'd be pretty great.

[Matt Farah]

I would be very aroused.

[Zach Klawitter]

The WRX fans would be so mad. But they shouldn't be hanging onto that boat anyway, I hope.

[Matt Farah]

Go watch the Ness Mosey video, please. It's very. Not just because it's a. Not just because I want your click so I can have it a third of a penny. It's so because it's a really good car and it's literally like the car that everybody says they want and then when they offer it, people are like, oh, no, that's not what I meant.

[Zach Klawitter]

Are people saying that that's not what I wanted or are they saying I can't afford it?

[Matt Farah]

Well, they're saying it's. I mean, some are saying it's not a good value, but it is. I mean, there's a difference between something being good value and you not being able to afford it. Like, I'm not. I think I've made it clear enough that I'm sympathetic to people that can't afford these things. Like, that's a different issue from is this car a good value relative to its competition? It is objectively a good value relative to its competition, whether or not someone can afford it. Different issue. I can't do anything about that other than speak my fucking opinion, which is going to affect nobody. Let's compare cars. I'll tell you who is watching worse. That is a good deep cut rise against their.

[Zach Klawitter]

I bought Swing Life Away.

[Matt Farah]

I bought tickets. They're playing at some outside outdoor show with. With Christian James I want to say it's afi. Whoa. I think it's afi.

[Zach Klawitter]

Wow.

[Matt Farah]

Might be afi. I got tickets, though, if you want to go. It's in the fall. It should be. This should be fun. Is it AFI?

[Zach Klawitter]

Are you looking at it? It's been AFI since I was like 14.

[Matt Farah]

I want to say they just came out with like a collab thing and they announced the tour and I just impulsively bought tickets because it's rise against. I'm going to fucking hit up Jerry Horton and I'm going to ask if he can somehow hook it up. I've been listening to a lot of Papa Roach. They. I don't think they got the credit. They were due back in the day. Great band.

[Zach Klawitter]

I think it is.

[Matt Farah]

It's afi.

[Zach Klawitter]

I think it's afi. All right, cool.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, I'm going to go see that. Yeah. You want to go? Yeah, I got two.

[Zach Klawitter]

The whole show is ga. From the beginning.

[Matt Farah]

Me too. They're good. I saw them in Philly back in the day at the electric factory. Let's compare cars. I'll tell you who's his worst says, as communities want less noise from racetracks, will there be room for electric race cars to allow practice training racing quietly? I mean, I thought that's what would happen at Laguna Seca. If they lost their lives, they would keep the track and allow EV racing there.

[Zach Klawitter]

I think they would do that. And I think if that happened tomorrow, the low adoption of EVs as we are would lead to the track closing probably within two years. That's just it. Like, there's not enough people with electric sports cars that would be able to pay for Laguna Seca to not be developed into, like, into houses.

[Matt Farah]

Right, I agree.

[Zach Klawitter]

But if it happened in 15 years and there's more EVs around that, like, then that would probably be the solution that the neighbors would hate, which would be wonderful.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, I would say that there's probably. If there are racetracks that have noise restrictions.

[Zach Klawitter]

There are.

[Matt Farah]

And yeah, if there are. And like, let's just say that that means they can only operate certain days of the week, for instance, or certain hours of the day or any other restriction. If running EVs around the track, like, is well below that threshold, like, it could. It could open up a potential new revenue stream from a track.

[Zach Klawitter]

Road America said that they had to stop running cars, like, hard at 6pm because the neighbors. I wonder if they could start doing night races with EVs.

[Matt Farah]

I don't. Were there lights on the track at Road America? I Do not think so.

[Zach Klawitter]

No. But when I did the Thunder Hill, like, they. They set up like two lights with generators. I mean, they like four.

[Matt Farah]

It's like enough.

[Zach Klawitter]

No, you need. You needed your own headlights. And ours were bad.

[Matt Farah]

No, when I did a vir, it was very sketchy. Johnny Ev Gibberman says 12K project car fuck, marry, kill 12K fox body. C5 Corvette Z28 catfish. Is catfish the wide mouth?

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah,

[Matt Farah]

go ahead.

[Zach Klawitter]

Well, I just contributed something like this for the throttle House guys, and I listed the Z28. So I'll go. I would marry the C5. I would. I'd fuck the Fox body, because I almost bought one like, years ago, and I think I would kill the catfish.

[Matt Farah]

I would marry the Fox body, fuck the C5 and kill the catfish. Yamahabibi says GR Supra manual or Nismo Z manual. If you had to own it for five years or more, I would get the Nismo. I prefer how the Nismo drives. And I. I don't necessarily care about ultimate tunability. I care more about balance. And to be perfectly honest, like, the Nismo's like, fast enough for me. And even if someone came out with like a tune because it wasn't very loud, if someone came out with like a exhaust and a tune and it was an extra like 50, but sounded like it was a hundred, then I'd be very, very happy. But outside of that, I wouldn't. Yeah, that shit is nice. Lamborghini.

[Zach Klawitter]

Lamborghini.

[Matt Farah]

Cooch touch. SV Yikes. Haven't heard many Alpha Julia Quadrifoglio horror stories since the first years. They were out looking at later model years and I was wondering if you heard anything to the contrary.

[Zach Klawitter]

So I left this reply because it seems like she rub on my dub on my bub until the tip is whistling. Has one. They said, I have a Julia quad. It's a 2020. All the nightmare ones that reviewers have had go into limp mode were the earlier 27 and 2018s. After that they're fine, but they add that it's still expensive to own. They get bad gas mileage. Every four years. You have to do the serpentine belt that costs about four grand.

[Matt Farah]

Wow. Belt service in a fucking modern car.

[Zach Klawitter]

Whole front end comes off.

[Matt Farah]

So in 2020, you know what happened? Alfa had a reorganization.

[Zach Klawitter]

Oh yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Where they reduced the number of customization, unique options and everything and made. Made it like four option packages so you could only order the car one of a couple of ways. And that improved their quality like an astounding percent by doing that, like they can't be Porsche, they can't build every car different. But like when they're only building four versions of the car, they actually can build a car just fine. So like yeah, the later cars, once they switch to. To that production process, you really didn't hear about them being problematic after that.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah, and I'm trying to find the stories because the number of combinations they reduced from was like it started in the billions. It was like it was a huge number. Such a huge number of iterations and not iterations like different combinations of trim and this and packages. And it was just leading to bad QC and too many different suppliers with bad Q. And that helped a lot.

[Matt Farah]

She rub on my bub until my tip is whistling. That's fabulous. Why does every turbocharged mass produced car these days have specific engine displacements of 2 liter, 4, 3 liter, 6 and 4 liter V8? Is it so manufacturers can cut costs by using the same components? Or is there some kind of magic crossover that happens at 500cc's per cylinder? I would love to get an exact answer for this from an engineer and I bet we can. Either Scott or David Twig, I'm sure could give us an answer for this. I do believe there is an optimization that happens at 500cc's a cylinder. I actually think that is accurate that that is just the right size to make a cylinder in a car. I think there is a balance there. That's what I remember from some. You know, because it's Audi's 5 cylinders, the 2.5 and. And the V10s or the 5.0 like it's. There is. I believe there is a. A magic. Not magic, but like that's a. That's just an optimized.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah, I'd like to know too and I think, I bet there is a lot of parts sharing within. If you make a 2 liter and I make a 2 liter and they make a 2 liter and we have similar power requirements, we probably buy the same pistons. Assuming the three companies are happy with the quality of those pistons. So it's easier for all of us to make a 2 liter than for me to make a 1.75 or something. Weird.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Notice me in the Canyons. I was surprised to see the Barry Canyons stay in stock long enough to make it out of the Patriot. Thoughts on why this would be compared to other colors that sold out in hours? Also, this will be my most expensive watch. I have several others in the $400 to $700 range. How will I like this for double the money. Okay, second part first. You will love this watch. This watch is ideal for someone coming up from a watch that costs hundreds or from someone coming down from watch that costs tens of thousands. That's right in the sweet spot. Why this? I mean, look, it's pink. You know, it's the sixth color we've did. We sold 551 watches before we did this color. I think it's a beautiful color. I happen to think it's really fun. But if you're talking about within the patrons, which is a group of about, what, 1700 people, 1800 people, it's a big group, It's a great group, but it's not that big of a group. And when you're talking about a watch that's like, you know, 1200 to 1800, there's only so many of those I can sell to folks. Some people are not into watches. Some people, many people are happy to support, love the idea of a watch, but they're not going to buy more than one. They got one. They're not collecting all five. And so other people are like, look good for them. But I'm not buying pink. Cool. Not everybody wants to rock pink. That's fine. I think it's beautiful. Not everyone will, fortunately, people have been generally supportive, but it's the sixth color of the same watch. So we may have squeezed this lemon as hard as it can be squeezed. Given the. The Patreon as a limit, it should be said that it made it out of the Patreon and it was gone in an hour. So the second we gave the fucking public the taste of these things, they were done. So I just think we have a limited number of people to sell watches to within the Patreon. We're so happy for the support that we have, and we're so happy that people have bought these watches and enjoy them and wear them them, but there's just so many people to buy these watches. And so I don't see this as a disappointment at all. I mean, we give the patrons first crack at it because we appreciate them and we want to make sure they can get one. It doesn't mean that if the patrons don't buy every single unit that it's a super failure by any means at all. So it's good that a few people outside the Patreon got to get them for. For once. So it's all good. We're just happy that the people who wanted one, patrons and fans were able to get one. And now that it's done, we can move on to the next project. And it's a great, fun thing to be doing as part of this podcast is like designing a product that's expensive, that people actually want to buy, and that come back to you and go, this is great. Like, this is real. Like, that's awesome. Yeah. Not a lot of people get to do stuff like that. That's cool. And notices Wes and Cullen and their whole, like, they're fucking great people. They're just like, really great, good people to work with. And they do as much as they can in Los Angeles. Many of the components are made in Asia and the movement made in Switzerland. But the final assembly and the design and all that is done here in LA. Fastback to the future says, if Infiniti made a Q50 Red Sport with a manual, would it be right on time or a dollar short and a day late? I'll tell you what, if it was a Nismo Z4 door, it would rip.

[Zach Klawitter]

They almost made it 10 years ago. I was like, I got hired as a stunt driver, like a faceless one for that exact concept. And then. And they shuttered the concept, I think, a month after we shot it. And I didn't review Infinities at the time, if it bothers anybody, but I remember going, oh, this would be cool. And then it was like, project canceled. Commercial dies

[Matt Farah]

fast. Back to the Future says what matches the fizz of a Turbo 1992 Miata, but isn't a screaming metal death trap of a vehicle for relatively equal. What is the value of a 92 Miata?

[Zach Klawitter]

That's what I read this, and I have no idea. Is it $4,000 or is it a really nice build? And it's.

[Matt Farah]

Let's be generous and say it's 15, because what do we comp at? Four GS. Four GS? Your comps are running cars.

[Zach Klawitter]

What do you want from built Civic?

[Matt Farah]

Sorry, I'm not trying to be elitist, but we need something to work with here, bro. Come on. Fizz of a turbo 92 Miata, let's give you 15.

[Zach Klawitter]

I think a track ish prepped C5 is a good one. Feels like a Miata very fast. A car you can grow with, your abilities, can grow with. And if you start putting a little bit of work into the engine, obviously you can make a bunch of power and that can terrify you. Can?

[Matt Farah]

Sure. I mean, if you can find a scruffy Boxster somewhere, you know, you might be able to get in the game for even money there. That'll be faster than a Miata and it'll be nicely fizzy. If you could find. If you can find an Elise with a cracked front bumper.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

If you find an Elise with a cracked front clam.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yes.

[Matt Farah]

20K and you're in the game.

[Zach Klawitter]

JB Weld the bumper. And that's a really fun, exciting car for sure.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klawitter]

Because I mean the problem is this person is dealing with, you know, you're coming out of a 300 horsepower, 300 pound car pretty much. Like not much is going to feel like that unless you turn into an Exocet, which you could do well.

[Matt Farah]

But it says, is it a screaming death trap?

[Zach Klawitter]

An Exocet is a screaming death trap. Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

You could find somewhat functional. Bmw135i with some mods, you know, that would be big power. True, it would be a little heavier than you want, but it would be a different kind of fizz.

[Zach Klawitter]

And same goes for like a 335 that has some mods on it.

[Matt Farah]

How about like a great R53 mini Cooper S supercharged?

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah. I think a mini 15 grand is a great one. Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Or if it 02 to 06 mini Cooper S. Couple bolt ons. Service that bitch. Do the bushings. You're good. Randy says I'm a large man that has also recently lost a good amount of weight. Congrats, Randy. Good for you. What fashion brands or designer items were you most excited to get into once you were able to buy normal clothing sizes again? Dude, I can relate. I fucking. I shop at like four stores. It's really funny. The four stores I shop at are all right next to each other in Malibu in the shopping center, like across where the bathrooms are. I shop at Faherty, I shop at Outernown. I shop at RRL and I shop at Viori. And like those are that. And they're all right next to each other. And then in Venice I shop at Marine Lair. And Vince and I just bought. I still can't really fit in Aviator Nation, which is hilarious. Aviator Nation was so cool I couldn't fit in it. And now it's like post cool and I could finally fit in. It sucks. Those are the best ones. But like what's frustrating is a little bit is that like I spent a bunch of money on awesome clothes £20 too early. You know what I mean? Started at 295. When I got to like in the 250s, I was like, I'm there, I'm in. And I spent a ton of money on great clothes.

[Zach Klawitter]

You didn't realize what was possible.

[Matt Farah]

I didn't realize that six, eight months later I'd be in the high 200 30s and all this stuff I just bought and like wore once would be too big. It's such a big.

[Zach Klawitter]

So how long someone should be at a weight before they go, this is where I'm gonna be.

[Matt Farah]

You gotta buy a few good, a couple great items, but not over shop.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah, because you don't want to keep wearing, as you said, like the stuff that's way too big for you because then you're swimming in it and you know, you don't want to fill it back out.

[Matt Farah]

If you've done the work to lose weight, the last thing you want to do is be wearing oversized clothes. You want to be wearing good looking clothes. Now you put in the work. But like if you buy a whole bunch of shit and you're still on the move, you just go, oh man. I just. It's okay. It's like throwing pennies in the fountain of fortune, you know, you got to a goal and you celebrated with clothes you didn't celebrate with. I lost 40 pounds. Let me eat, Let me eat desserts.

[Zach Klawitter]

Right.

[Matt Farah]

You know what I mean? It is healthy, healthier to do that.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah, definitely.

[Matt Farah]

But like, yeah, it sucks to spend a lot of money on really, because the shit I buy, I don't dress fancy, but the shit I buy lasts a long time. It's durable, it's soft and comfortable and I can wear it in any condition and it lasts forever. Even these fucking viori T shirts which are like thin and super like breevy and show my nipples and everything. These things last like six years. Being washed once a week, like for a $48 T shirt, like that's what I expect. So to buy durable stuff and then not hang on to it for that

[Zach Klawitter]

long, yeah, that's a bummer. And you don't want to buy like the fast fashion stuff that falls apart for all the reasons.

[Matt Farah]

No, you know what? I just fucking last week learned I can wear now Uniqlo. I haven't been able. It's like a Japanese brand that sells like basics, but they're like, I don't know, nice basics. But I couldn't wear some Uniqlo shit. U n I Q L Found it okay? Yeah.

[Zach Klawitter]

Anyway, I'm glad. No, I'm glad you're excited. I just, I'm not a fashionable person,

[Matt Farah]

so I don't feel like you're still a bigger person. You need to follow my. He's not my friend. He's my acquaintance, David Lane. On Instagram, it's big fits one On Instagram, it's like, how to dress well as a bigger dude. And like, yeah, this guy. That's him. This guy's fucking great. I really like him. And he is, like. He's got, like. His, like, workwear game is tight. His, like, cozy winter wear game is tight.

[Zach Klawitter]

It's big fits one with the number one, not the number one.

[Matt Farah]

Sorry. Yeah. And I forget where I found this guy, but he's great. Shout out to David Lane. If you're a bigger dude and you want to learn how to dress well, this guy's got a great Instagram and a great blog.

[Zach Klawitter]

I said I've heard this a long time ago, that women will pay more attention to how you're dressed than what they think you'll look like with, you know, underneath your clothes. Like, fashion over fitness for most people.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. It's also more important if you're.

[Zach Klawitter]

If you're.

[Matt Farah]

If you're on a date or something, that your car is clean than it. Than that it's a nice car.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

You know what I mean?

[Zach Klawitter]

That's true.

[Matt Farah]

Like, if you were. If you were going out with a woman and you had a Lamborghini but you had, like, trash in it and it was dirty, versus you had a, you know, decent. Absolutely Not a shit box, but a decent car that was really clean. It's the clean car.

[Zach Klawitter]

Because your life looks put together. So even if you have a Lamborghini, they're like, it's gonna look like you financed the shit out of this thing and you're hanging on by a thread.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly.

[Zach Klawitter]

Last two.

[Matt Farah]

Two Renault's one Cup Check chassis better. Specifically, what is your favorite gear change? For example, I really liked the 3. 4 on my Abarth. That is a great question.

[Zach Klawitter]

I like two to three. Two to three. I like two because two is. Is brisk acceleration. Car leans back a lot. It feels kind of in my car, like, that's the quickest accelerating gear. And then third, you can stretch it, and you kind of sit in full throttle for a while. Long enough to be like, this is illegal. This is kind of fast. All right. You know, you get to experience the car.

[Matt Farah]

Sure. That's very good.

[Zach Klawitter]

Depends on the engine and the gearing.

[Matt Farah]

Of course, given a standard H pattern, like, not a dogleg. I'm gonna go with a 3.2downshift as being my favorite gear change. It's a thing of beauty when it's executed very. Executed well. Least favorite gear change is going to be the one two shift on the seven speed speed S and vantage that they did for like two years. Advantage S. Yeah, that's weird. Last one riders on the Geostorm says. I found out recently about the Rare Shades car club, where it's just Porsche owners who celebrate pts color choices. That's it. I mean, I get it. That's fine. What's the strangest theme for a car club you've known of them? I can't say I've. Do you know of any?

[Zach Klawitter]

I don't really know of any themes. I mean, this is definitely the most interesting one I've heard of.

[Matt Farah]

The Rare Shades Car club.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah. Because it's, you know, usually car clubs are like we're a Beamer crowd or a VIP stance crowd or it's about like the mark or I guess the setup. And this is like. Nope. This is just people that get rare color traffic choices and that's what they want to talk about.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. I mean, cool. Like, you know, it's great that Porsche is willing to paint a car whatever you want. I mean, it really is. And so, like. And it's cool that people want to, like, personalize their cars as long as

[Zach Klawitter]

they drive the cars also.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree.

[Zach Klawitter]

When. When all I know it's so hard. Like, I saw who's ranting about this. You know, people whose only focus is on their build, spec and like, they. Especially with 911s, it's become like a thing. You got these seats, but with this stitching and this color and then the back. Is this because they'll let you customize so much stuff. And on the one hand, you know, can that come off as, like, annoying, pretentious? It's not about driving.

[Matt Farah]

Sure.

[Zach Klawitter]

But we do with any hobby, you know, people are going to always get more specific and into the minutia and they're going to find different ways to enjoy things. Even if those things are mechanical. Mechanical. So.

[Matt Farah]

And those are the same people. Like the same kind of the same personality trait that puts rims on a Mustang and your fucking Instagram handle on the quarter window. That's the same person that's going fucking apeshit over PTS options and Porsche exclusive. This and whatever. They're just in a different income bracket.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah, it's their.

[Matt Farah]

Their. The reason they care so much is because this car is the way that this person expresses their themself. Like, especially if it's a car that they've built, you know, from the factory, it's the same as wearing an outfit it's the same as whatever. And, like, a lot of the people that own this shit are, like, not interesting people. I don't mean like on a fucking conversational level, but they have a boring job. They just whatever. They dress normal. They're not everybody's Magnus.

[Zach Klawitter]

This is their art. This is their. What is the word I'm looking for? Like, their art studio. They don't paint. They don't do sculpture on the weekend. Yeah. So they have this car, and that's where they let. And that's what's great about cars, is you can express a part of your personality, either one part of it in one car or all parts of it in one car.

[Matt Farah]

It's probably the same kind of person. They probably have an expressive house of some kind. You know, they probably have a designy type space. They may or may not care how they dress because cars having a custom car and dressing well are not one to one at all. Sometimes they're inverse, as a matter of fact. But, I mean, I know Doug is, like, offended with all the PTS stuff. It doesn't bother me.

[Zach Klawitter]

I think as long as it's authentic and it's coming from a genuine place where you're like, I love this color and this. I think if people start going, what's gonna be cool? And they're trying to fit in and be cool, and then they're either hiring someone to guide them with their color choices or something, or if they're just doing it to be obscure, then that's lame for sure.

[Matt Farah]

But getting. Getting a PTS color is hard. You have to be approved. You have to apply and be approved. And then it takes a long time. There's delays and there's. If it's. It's a real. It's one of those.

[Zach Klawitter]

It requires more intention than just.

[Matt Farah]

No, it's. It's a. It's vice signaling. It's vice signaling.

[Zach Klawitter]

It's vice. Ox signaling.

[Matt Farah]

Look at vice. Ox signaling. Very good. It's. It's. Look what I had to do to get this car. I had to pay an extra 20k. I had to wait an extra year. They had to paint a practice car. I went in there with my wife's fucking nail polish and, you know, whatever. It's like a. It's a whole. It's a. Look what I had to do to get this thing that otherwise is just writing a check.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah. Cause ultimately that's what it is doing is writing a check. So I think that's why I hope people that did this have an attachment to the color. And they weren't just trying to follow the fashion of things. Because one thing that folks that they'll do the same pitch. If someone built a car and you walk up to them in a car show and you're like, tell me this. They want to tell you the story because they have all the work put in it, Same as the person wants to tell you the story of how this color came to be purchased. The difference is that someone built the thing and the story might be longer.

[Matt Farah]

I mean, I'm no innocent, but I will say this. When your crazy color is crazy, but non pts, such as frozen berry metallic, it's like a wonderful bit of stolen pts valor.

[Zach Klawitter]

Right? They think it's a custom color, but you're like, no, no, no. This is on the shelf.

[Matt Farah]

I just saw what you didn't see, which is that that color's free, but ain't nobody brave enough to get it. And I'm gonna get it, and I'm gonna make it fucking awesome. And I'm gonna create my own hype machine around a color that they were giving away. Pen drop.

[Zach Klawitter]

That's a good point.

[Matt Farah]

There it is. That's why you get frozen Berry watch or car. We have the most paint to sample car. That is right. It's right there. We have the most paint to sample car. It's under a cover. I'm sorry, but you've seen it. Didn't you see it?

[Zach Klawitter]

Which one?

[Matt Farah]

The new. The brand new 911 Turbo that has that. Everything. Everything is Mr. Chrome. Not Mystichrome.

[Zach Klawitter]

They wouldn't call it that.

[Matt Farah]

No. What do they call it? Chromoflare. Excuse me? Porsche calls it chromoflare.

[Zach Klawitter]

Chromoflare.

[Matt Farah]

Everything is chromaflare. Even the inside the wheels are chromaflare.

[Zach Klawitter]

Okay.

[Matt Farah]

All of the bits, like the lower diffuser that would normally be black plastic are chromaflare. Everything is chromaflare. The front splitter is chromaflare. Front. It is the. It has the highest MSRP I've ever seen on a 911 Turbo S. And it's. It. Everything is chromaflare.

[Zach Klawitter]

Here's an ST that I might have the.

[Matt Farah]

It's that color. This is not the same.

[Zach Klawitter]

This color is cool. The color's on its own.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klawitter]

It might have two things. Okay.

[Matt Farah]

The color is nuts. I can't. Those are. Those look like white gold wheels, though. I don't think those are chromaflare wheels.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah. All right.

[Matt Farah]

It is a It is. I mean, it's truly amazing.

[Zach Klawitter]

Is it good amazing or just amazing?

[Matt Farah]

It's amazing to see. I think it's a little over the top for my personal taste, but it's an amazing thing to see. I mean, you look at it and you go, wow. You're just like. I can honestly say I've never seen anything like that. There was a guy at the Audrain a couple years ago that claimed to have the highest option GT3Rs ever. And it was chroma flare and it had white leather on everything. There was a white dash, white roof. I mean it was the most, it was the most ridiculous looking thing ever. And I think this has more, this has more painted chroma flare shit than that car. Wow. Yeah, it's wild. Thanks everybody. That's our program. I really wish Zach was out with me on the mountain today with the DB12. It was, was fun.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah, me too.

[Matt Farah]

I saw some Mercedes prototypes testing some like slopey backed crossovers in camo. We're up there testing and

[Zach Klawitter]

I can't

[Matt Farah]

believe you're not coming to the track tomorrow for Zinger. That sucks balls, dude.

[Zach Klawitter]

I mean I, I put the, I put the jury thing on the calendar on Monday, but I should have stretched it for the whole reporting week. But I didn't do that. And that's what I should have done there.

[Matt Farah]

It wouldn't have made a difference. It would not have made a difference. This tomorrow is a confluence of literally the only day this car is available in the next month or. And the track being available. Like tomorrow is the only day, jury

[Zach Klawitter]

duty or not, it's the only day in May. Like we could have done it in June.

[Matt Farah]

Well, no, no, no. We would have had to wait. Like the car, there's one press car.

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

So the car is going off. I can drive it before it goes off on its national tour or when it comes back.

[Zach Klawitter]

Got it.

[Matt Farah]

And I was like, okay. And I didn't know you had jury duty. I know, I didn't. The odds were against, you know, the

[Zach Klawitter]

math says I was two people away also from not having it. And not all of you.

[Matt Farah]

They were like, were you wearing the shirt?

[Zach Klawitter]

The yay shirt?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. No, no, no. The. No, not the shirt that said which shirt? The Supreme Court shirt.

[Zach Klawitter]

No, I didn't wear that. I should have worn that. But actually they say like, don't wear things that have slogans and whatnot.

[Matt Farah]

Really?

[Zach Klawitter]

Yeah, they tell you that, like don't wear. And yeah, I have a shirt from the Onion that says like Supreme Court overturns right versus wrong. Yeah, yeah. I definitely would have gotten asked more questions instead of looking like neutral shoes.

[Matt Farah]

Which decisions exactly. Thanks, everybody. By the way, when we come back to you. Wow. So many things will have happened when we come back to you. I'll have driven the high downforce zinger on track.

[Zach Klawitter]

Maybe it'll rain tomorrow, Zach. Maybe it'll rain tomorrow.

[Matt Farah]

That'll be a good time. In the desert. That'll be a good time. Look it up. Pray for rain. Do a rain dance.

[Zach Klawitter]

Clapman.

[Matt Farah]

I'm going to the Indy 500, actually, this weekend with Spike Fariston, courtesy of Edwards Life Sciences, who would like you to get your heart valves checked.

[Zach Klawitter]

Cool.

[Matt Farah]

That's a whole thing.

[Zach Klawitter]

All right.

[Matt Farah]

But, yeah, so we'll talk about. It's my first ever Indy 500. We'll. We'll talk about that when we get back. Zach will spend a few days in the Aston Martin DB12. And, yeah, thank you to our patrons for keeping the ship floating down the ocean. We appreciate you very, very much. And if you're not yet a patron, fuck you doing? What are you waiting for? Get in the game. Thanks, everybody. We'll see you later. Bye.