Comedian Abbas Wahab

Summary

The Smoking Tire Podcast – Comedian Abbas Wahab (April 28, 2026)

Overview

In this engaging and humorous episode, hosts Matt Farah and Zack Klapman welcome stand-up comic and car-obsessed entertainer Abbas Wahab back to The Smoking Tire Podcast. The trio discusses Abbas’s automotive-inspired stand-up, trends in the car and tech worlds, the wildness of Philadelphia celebrations, cult automotive icons, and why some cars just make people laugh. The conversation weaves between comedy, industry news, personal stories, and listener questions with the show’s trademark witty, irreverent tone.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Abbas Wahab’s Career and Car Comedy

• Abbas shares how cars organically became a major theme in his standup and online content.
  • “I’m doing all this funny stuff online...And then when I talk about cars, it does exponentially better because I’m bringing something different to it.” (07:12, Abbas)
• Explains the delicate balance of “playing the hits” (recurring car jokes) for car-nut audiences and making accessible material for all.
  • “I do it right off the top because all the us are autistic car guys...Then I’ll switch gears into, like, you know, life.” (08:06, Abbas)
  • Analogy to bands structuring their setlists: Abbas wants “the new thing sandwiched in between hits” (09:12)
• Abbas’s comedy trajectory kicked up 2–3 years ago as car culture folks “finally saw someone talking about cars” and began sharing his work. (07:30)

2. Celebrity Podcasting & Media Wealth

• The crew riffs on the gold rush of podcasting deals (Dax Shepard, Joe Rogan, “a tech dude” selling for $200 million).
  • “He sold this fucking podcast for like $200 million...and he isn’t Joe Rogan and he isn’t Dax Shepard...it’s just a tech dude.” (06:23, Matt)
• Reflection on how some podcasters gain generational wealth with medium numbers because their content is useful “in the background.”
• Joke about rebranding The Smoking Tire as a tech podcast to drive up their own valuation.

3. Trademark Lawlessness & Cannabis Culture

• The group laughs about the “wild west” of weed branding and rampant trademark infringement:
  • “The packaging in the weed industry is so innovative...Also the trademark infringement that goes on…There was a weed brand called Elon Musk. There was like Ford Bronco Indica.” (14:31, Matt)
  • “It makes you autistic. You just start firing employees.” (15:01, Abbas riffing off the ‘Elon Musk’ weed)
• Discussion about personal cannabis routines, 4/20 cultural differences, and how the weed market has gotten shockingly cheap over time.
• Comparison of modern potent cannabis to “beer with vodka in it.”

4. Mavericks, Legends & Auto-Culture Icons

• Extended riff on Nakai-san, legendary RWB Porsche builder, and his “rock star” creative chaos:
  • “I need two cartons of Marlboro Reds and somewhere I can smoke indoors while I use an angle grinder.” (24:24, Matt, on Nakai’s workshop demands)
  • “If you hit level of artistry in whatever you do...Indoor smoking rules no longer apply to you.” (25:36, Abbas)
• Parallels drawn between celebrity chefs, tattoos, and the performance-artistry of custom car building.

5. Societal Tech Dependency (AI, ChatGPT, Law)

• Stories of people—especially students—using AI to shortcut research or avoid critical thinking.
  • “He just looked at [the sailing rule book] for 2 seconds...Closes it, opens ChatGPT, drops this in...He’s essentially just using ChatGPT to summarize every single thing in his life.” (42:36, Matt)
• Anxiety over what happens if these tools go down; generational loss of troubleshooting skills.
• Dangers of AI hallucinations—lawyers submitting briefs with entirely fake case law.
  • “There was a lawyer that submitted a full AI-written thing that cited case law that wasn’t real…” (44:49, Matt)

6. Design Trends & Ergonomics of Modern Cars

• Complaints about the living room feel of new interiors, lost “right hand rest” with disappearing shifters, and enormous dashboard screens:
  • “Everything, bro. No one has something to rest your right hand on anymore...You’re leaning now on the middle thing...feels like I’m driving my living room.” (45:51, Abbas)
• Discussion on the Mercedes EQS and other screen-heavy interiors:
  • “The screen is aggressive...the disco lights across the whole [dash]...so much.” (48:55, Matt)
• The group longs for the analog era—gauges, needles, understated luxury of 2000s sedans, and driver-centric design.

7. The EV Tipping Point and Industry Disruption

• They debate why BYD and Chinese EVs threaten the US market, even with high tariffs, because their cars are so cheap (e.g., $11k BYD Seagull).
  • “Even at a hundred percent tariff...it would still be one of the cars. Yeah, it would still be really cheap.” (54:58, Matt)
• Reflection on how US buyers lack affordable new car options, forcing low-income buyers into unreliable old cars.
• Matt on LA’s EV saturation and his own switch to electric for daily driving:
  • “As someone who lives in this town, I will never drive a gas car again...after a week of driving a gas car, getting into an electric car is such a revelation.” (56:41 + 57:18, Matt)
• Praise for Genesis and Hyundai interiors, especially budget luxury in the GV60 and G90.

8. Iconic and Funny Cars

• Segment on which cars are inherently funny:
  • “Every time I see a Pontiac Aztec, it kind of makes me laugh.” (72:21, Abbas)
  • Chevy SSR, PT Cruiser, and Japanese Kei trucks (especially in drift form) also cited for comedy value.
• The community’s humor gaps: Ferrari owners are “super serious,” Porsche people less so these days; Nissan the butt of internet CVT jokes.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Standup and Car Audiences

• “I'm doing all this funny stuff online...And then when I talk about cars, it does exponentially better because I'm bringing something different to it.” – Abbas (07:12)
• “Car guys are like, so I got otherwise. But then they play the hit...You can't talk about cars for 90 minutes.” – Matt (08:11)

On Podcast & Tech Wealth

• “He sold this fucking podcast for like $200 million...and he isn’t Joe Rogan and he isn’t Dax Shepard...it’s just a tech dude.” – Matt (06:23)

On Trademark Mayhem in Weed

• “There was a weed brand called Elon Musk...There was like Ford Bronco Indica…the amount of trademark infringement...” – Matt (14:56)
• “It makes you autistic. You just start firing employees.” – Abbas (15:01)

On Nakai-san & Creative Privilege

• “I need two cartons of Marlboro Reds and somewhere I could smoke indoors while I use an angle grinder.” – Matt (24:28)
• “If you hit level of artistry in whatever you do...Indoor smoking rules no longer apply to you.” – Abbas (25:36)

On Modern Car Interiors

• “Everything, bro. No one has something to rest your right hand on anymore...feels like I’m driving my living room.” – Abbas (45:51)

On EVs and the Future

• “I will never drive a gas car again...after a week of driving a gas car, getting into an electric car is such a revelation...” – Matt (56:41 & 57:18)

On Cultural Car Stuff

• “Every time I see a Pontiac Aztec, it kind of makes me laugh a little bit.” – Abbas (72:21)
• “The weed is so cheap, it’s crazy…weed is the only thing, the only example, that's probably healthcare getting cheaper.” – Matt (68:35, 68:44)

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Interesting Segments with Timestamps

Abbas on Automotive Standup

• (06:49–08:44) – Balancing car jokes, crowd feedback, keeping shows approachable for non-car-geeks.

Discussion of Massive Podcast Payouts

• (05:40–06:38) – $200 million sales, tech podcasting, and the economics behind “medium numbers.”

The Trademark Wild West of Cannabis

• (14:31–15:16) – Weirdest weed product names, riffing on Elon Musk as a strain.

Nakai-san & Artist Privilege

• (24:16–25:36) – Iconic Japanese builder’s demands, and comparing creative license to Chappelle, Penn at the Oscars, and chef tattoos.

Modern Car Design Critique

• (45:40–48:55) – Losing the right-hand shifter rest, massive screens, “driving my living room,” and the disco Mercedes EQS interior.

Affordable EVs and BYD Threat

• (53:56–54:58) – BYD’s $11k Seagull, tariffs, and the lack of cheap new cars in the US.

Classic Analog Car Love

• (60:11–64:04) – Praising 2000s Bimmers, Audis, Bentley, S8, and analog gauges over digital dashboards.

Iconic/Funny Cars Lightning Round

• (72:19–73:32) – Aztec, SSR, Kei trucks—what makes a car “funny” or memorable.

Road Trip Snacks & Car Culture

• (76:41–77:04) – Best road snacks: jerky, dry nuts, popcorners.

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Listener Q&A Highlights

• Most Ticketed Car in the US: Subaru BRZ now beats WRX; theorized blend of rear-wheel drive shenanigans and the WRX’s diminishing “bad boy” rep. (77:58+)
• Unreliable Cars You’d Still Buy: Range Rover (“We can all shit talk them and it will not affect sales one bit…they nailed the aesthetic and the name.” – Abbas, 80:46)
• Most Humorless Car Enthusiasts: Ferrari for self-seriousness; Porsche for moneyed investment types lately. (74:04–76:35)
• Street Legal Race Car Wish: CLK GTR for Abbas; Ford T1 Raptor Dakar for Matt. (88:07+)
• ADAS Customization/Tailgating Mode: They expect aftermarket “tuning” for safety systems, but tailgate mode is a no-go for ethical reasons. (90:07+)

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Episode Tone & Closing Remarks

This show keeps a breezy, quick-witted, and honest conversational style. Jokes about everything from car culture stereotypes to AI dependence to Range Rover reliability feel unfiltered but never mean-spirited. Car news, engineering, and nostalgia blend seamlessly with stand-up craft and car guy social commentary—a trademark of The Smoking Tire.

Abbas Wahab is currently touring: check out abbaswahab.com for live show dates or catch him on Instagram/TikTok for more car comedy (71:01).

Memorable Closing:
“And a very high percentage of your comedy is about cars. So, if you’re into this show, you’ll probably like your comedy.” (93:03, Matt)
“Zach and I are going racing, so we’ll see you from the other side of that race next week. Peace out.” (93:13, Matt)

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Links

• YouTube Car Reviews
• Abbas Wahab tour dates
• @thesmokingtire @zackklapman
• @fakezackklapman

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For car enthusiasts, comics, or anyone who enjoys a mix of technical insight and sharp observational humor, this episode is a must-listen.

Transcript

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Might be before my time.

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Definitely was before your fucking time. But it's. You could. But it's your kind of show. Yeah, it's about two car stuff. Yeah, it's about two California highway patrol motorcycle officers.

[B]

Love it.

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And it's like action comedy.

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Yeah.

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And it was. It was in the 70s and 80s, like. And it was. It was a comedy TV show. But Dax. Dax's version. Oh, wait, yeah, whatever you got. Dax is. Dax remade it as a movie with. Oh, what the fuck is that? Who's the dude's name?

[C]

Michael Pena.

[A]

Michael Pena.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

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And. And. And they really. It's a. It's a buddy comedy, but he really. He directed it, and I'm assistant entirely, so Dax also directed a movie called Hit and Run before that.

[B]

Yeah.

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Which, like, was a little bit of a hokey.

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It was the mid-2000s.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I think I saw that.

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But he just wanted to do all his own stunt driving. And there's, like, six car chases in this movie. Very little happens in the movie. Like a bunch of car chases.

[B]

He's like Tarantino writing in all his own. He wrote in all his own stunts. Yeah.

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And he also. When he did chips, it was the same thing. And so, like, it. It's like, it's got enormous cred.

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Yeah.

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For me. As a gearhead movie. Yeah. Because the car shit's all really accurate. The filming.

[B]

He's doing all the driving, all his

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own stunts and his own driving. And I was like, he's like. Like a redneck Tom Cruise.

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Yeah. It's like doing unnecessary stunts and stuff. They're like, oh, yeah, got a big chase coming up. You could probably just drive in this scene. What if he drifts in the show?

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It would be like it was two motorcycle cops, and the big stunt would be like they went around a balloon that had fallen in an alley, and it was like, they went around a car and he.

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He has seen Jim.

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They're, like, riding downstairs and stuff. He's like, what if we, you know, level this up for 2020 post Travis Pastrana era?

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And he came on our podcast to talk about it and, like, other, you know, whatever the View are asking him, you know, about what it's like with Michael Pena, and we're like, where you. The mounted shot where you on the arm?

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And he's.

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Was it all like GoPro?

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You guys know this?

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You like this.

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It's fun. And then he had his own podcast suspiciously soon after that.

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That's. He had a great time.

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Yeah, great idea, dude.

[B]

You're a natural. You said that Roman thing. You're a natural. You got to start doing this to

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make a living doing this.

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And then he sold it for, like, $100 million.

[B]

Did he sell it?

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Yeah, to Spotify, I think.

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And he's still on.

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Oh, he.

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Well, you know, like, sold it. But Then you probably have an agreement

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to be talking about Dax or Rogan.

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Oh, sorry. Dax.

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Okay. Oh, so he did that thing too.

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He did that thing.

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Gotcha.

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Oh man. I made some big money out here, boys. The most depressing one. I. And not that I don't think, you know, those guys with huge numbers shouldn't be worth some huge amount of money. Yeah. I met a dude who was a nice enough dude whose name I'm not going to use, but he was a nice enough dude.

[B]

Can we connect the dots?

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He had a podcast. You'll know. You might not because I don't think this is Bobo. No, no, I'm not, I'm not. This is a completely different young person that I met that I met at the ice race.

[B]

Okay, cool.

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Okay. In Montana. And he has a podcast. It's a tech podcast. Yeah. And they do it five days a week for like hours a day.

[B]

Okay.

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It's, it's, it seems like a lot of work.

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Yeah.

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And the numbers are like, not as much as the numbers of like this show, but it's episode to episode, it's episodic numbers. The raw numbers are good. And he apparently, you know, makes has quite a lot of like concurrent views on livestream. Cause people put it on as like a news program kind of in the background while they're working. Whatever. Good for this dude. I just found out that he sold this fucking podcast for like $200 million with. And he isn't Joe Rogan and he isn't Dax Shepard or Will Arnett or Amy Poehler. It's a tech, A tech dude. It's just a tech dude with, you

[B]

know, that's crazy to me.

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You know, immediate with medium numbers who see who I'm. I'm happy that this person now has instant generational wealth.

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So this show is actually going to be all about solid state batteries today.

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That's why you guys brought me in. You're trying to increase the valuation.

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Smoking entrepreneurship power.

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Yeah, you guys brought me in.

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Grind routine.

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Spike your numbers evaluation uphill battle that we do.

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You're trying to create a stand up career based entirely on automotive mater material, which is, which is a tough needle.

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It's not entirely. I will say that it's not entirely. It's not entirely. Well, people come out sit thinking that. So it's like dude, you know, you throw stuff at the wall, see what sticks.

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Right.

[B]

And then just my love of cars come somehow surface like the, you know, the cream always rises type stuff.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So it's like I'm Doing all this funny stuff online. Just doing stand up every night. And then when I talk about cars, it does exponentially better because I'm bringing something different to it.

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Sure.

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So in the room, I'm talking about online.

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Online.

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Online. So then what happens is I get all these car people. This is, like, really started two, three

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years ago, I think this is why. I think car people see someone finally talking about cars. They share that. They go, oh, my God, this guy's finally talking about cars. I'm gonna send it to my car friend.

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So then it started with me just doing my an hour, and then people be like, bro. A guy literally came up to me one show two years ago, goes, bro, great show, but do more car stuff. And I was like, oh, okay, what do you drive? He goes, oh, I don't have a car. I was like, get out of my. Go figure out your life.

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You get back on the bus and

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figure your life out. But. But that's the moment I realized, oh, a lot of these. So then now it's like a good third of the show is car inspired. And I do it right off the top because all the us are autistic. Car guys are like. So I got otherwise.

[A]

But then they play the hit.

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Yeah.

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You know, but.

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But then all of their significant others, all these women, There's a moment of the show where it's kind of like, what is kind of do a joke. Like, this is the whole show, by the way. And then I'll switch gears into, like, you know, life. And it's not 100%. And even us. You even 20 minutes into being, like, E46. And like, that guy works at, you know, you know, that guy's at whatever, Jiffy Lube. Or you're gonna be like, okay, talk about your kid.

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Or like, I mean, that's literally this show.

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Yeah.

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This show. We can't talk about cars for 90 minutes.

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Yeah. You start itching. Yeah.

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Okay.

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It's like, I. Yeah.

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This leads me to. Let's take a quick poll, though. You go to see a band or an artist perform live. Okay. Someone you're casually into maybe, you know, like one or two of their songs. Like the hits.

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Yeah.

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Do you want them to play the hits up front? Spread, you know, or do you want. Do you want them to close out with the hits?

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Me personally, I want it. I want their new thing to be sandwiched in between hits. I want them to open middle and close with hits.

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You want the compliment sandwich.

[B]

It's not the same with comedy, because I can't Keep renewing it. But exactly, exactly. I want to see the Eagles. You want them to open with Hotel California or A New Kid in Town or whatever. And then you want them to kind of close with the same thing. New thing in the middle.

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But it's like a one hit wondery kind of band. Maybe that's opening for the Eagles or whatever.

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They got to do their thing six times. Close when not like us. Remember Kendrick two years ago? Was that last year? Yeah, it was like a year of not like us.

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Yeah.

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Apparently he did it like six times or like eight times at his, like LA show or something. Seriously.

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I believe that.

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Well, because it was like twice in a row. Open with it.

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That was the famous thing. Like Kanye and Jay Z when they went to. They went to Paris and they did that song and they said like a

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record of like,

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let's get this. Let's get the numbers up. Let's get. Let's sell this.

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Let's drive controversy. The Rogan line. Like, I'm just saying the name of the song. Yeah, but they did it like six times in a row. And it was like the marketing. Everyone around the world was talking about it, so.

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Yeah, no, I know what you mean.

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It's like so funny. You know the thing where they're in France together.

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Yeah.

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They're speaking about a trip to France.

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It was just a couple. I think it was a couple pals in. Pals in Paris. Is that what it was? Pals in Paris?

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They've achieved financial success. They're traveling through Paris. Let's listen now to Buds in Paris.

[A]

That's awesome. I was hanging out with my buddy Christian Hand, and he was talking about. We were joking about this and I think. I think I'd want to probably hear the band close with a hit if there was just the one. But Christian said he saw a couple of artists throughout the late 80s and 90s do open middle and close with the one hit. Oh, you have to. Yeah, you have to. I think it was Blue Oyster Cult. Is that Fear the. Don't Fear the Reaper. He said they played Don't Fear the Reaper three times. Yeah. And he said, I think it was John. John Sakata, I think is a 90s singer. He was a radio DJ, so he

[B]

had to go to Hawaiian Superstar.

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He said he did the hit three times and then closed with doing it in Spanish.

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He's got to give it new for himself. Dude.

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If I was in that audience and you're a one hit wonder or even any of these, like, iconic people and they close On a new song. You know, it's not the real close. You know they're going to come back on stage, right?

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Just basic stagecraft. Yeah, yeah.

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You're like, this isn't. They're going to leave out and we're all going to be like.

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Hates an encore. No, she hates an encore. She gets mad and I'm like, they gotta pee. Have a little beverage before. Thank God for you though.

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That puts the freaking. This guy that takes the stress out of your life. Dear God bless your life. Hey, she hates it on the slide.

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The bluechew ad in right here.

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Bluechew gold.

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He's like, I'm not done yet. She's like, you better be done. You better be done.

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Whitney, your wife insists no second shows.

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Good night, Springfield. There will be no encore.

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This is Cleveland. What?

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Matt, just play the hit up, please.

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And on my anniversary.

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Was it your anniversary?

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It was. 420 was my anniversary.

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427 for me.

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Is it 427?

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Well, yeah. So seven.

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We.

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We.

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You almost got that right.

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Wedding day screwed up the timing, bro.

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I'll tell you what. If you're for. If Your wedding is 4:20, your your friends will remember to wish you a happy anniversary years later. Yeah. When all others have forgotten. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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This is fun.

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I'm a. I'm a. I'm like. I smoke weed a lot. You know, not in the sense of like. I'm like, yo, I'm the. You know what I mean? Yeah, but I'm not exactly in the culture in the way that literally on 420 I went to dispensary in New York to get a, you know, pre roll or two and she had a box behind her. She goes and here's a free one on the house. And then I'm like, oh, well, you guys got a promo going on or something?

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Didn't even.

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And the store was packed. You know, first of all, dispensers packed and was so alive and there was free donuts. I realized I was like, oh, someone's birthday. None of it. I'm like, oh, it's a pro check.

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No, it's.

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It's 4:20.

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Oh yeah.

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You're buying costumes on Halloween for a different. Like a party.

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Yeah.

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What's going on this week?

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Yeah, exactly.

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It's like all these people in like

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gorilla outfits and stuff going on here. And you're buying a gorilla outfit Irish

[A]

on St Patrick's Day.

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Yeah, I'm just anaholic, man.

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I don't need an excuse to be this drunk. So all the green alcohol up the road from here and you know, is the. The Snoop Dogg store. It's just right here.

[B]

Dude, everyone's got a dispensary out here.

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Yeah, but I mean, if you're gonna go to someone's. I mean, Snoop Doggs is.

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There's.

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You could do worse than Snoop Dogg's dispensary.

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Jeter.

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Derek Jeter.

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Or one of these they have. Because I just. In that dispensary, it had a big little, like, stand up front being like, jeter.

[A]

No, there's a brand of weed called Jeter.

[B]

It is not associated with.

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Not think it is associated with Derek Jeter.

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The market was so strong.

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Derek is J E. Correct.

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It's two E, J, E, E. But it was such. That's him for sure.

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Well, the weed industry.

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That's not retirement packaging. For sure.

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The packaging in the weed industry is so innovative and awesome.

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Dude. Special edibles.

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But also like the trademark infringement that goes on in the weed industry.

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Oh, it's the wild west.

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I was in the weed store. I went to the Snoop Dogg store on 420. It was a shit show, by the way. There was parking lot vendors. It was nuts. There was a huge line. It was fun, though. 50% off. And so there. There was a weed brand called Elon Musk.

[B]

That's. That actually just is hilarious.

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There was like, Ford Bronco Indica.

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Yeah. It makes you autistic.

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There was just like. There was the amount of trademark infringement.

[B]

You just start firing employees.

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You start naming people x43. Yeah.

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Yeah. I love you. X4.

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Will you have my baby?

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Yeah.

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Cutting your own hair.

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I love you.

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Gamma Batman symbol. You are my favorite of the 27.

[C]

Yeah. Which.

[B]

Which one are you?

[C]

Which one are you?

[A]

Oh, okay.

[C]

Who did.

[B]

You know? He's like, it's not really a car company anymore.

[A]

That Tesla, he pretty much has given up on.

[B]

He's a villain. No, no, he's. He's in the future. I've been saying this for, like, 10 years.

[A]

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[B]

No, no, he's, he's in the future. I've been saying this for like 10 years. Okay, so you own all the cars, you own the space travel stuff. You're gonna like, have all the home stuff. And it's all going to be integrated in a way where it's like, okay, if the government's turn on him and you know, he' suggesting to pay for like, tsa. It's just like a lot of, like, tentacles into government that you're like, yo, he's only in his 40s. Is he even in his 50s yet?

[A]

Yeah, he's in his 50s, but like,

[B]

he's not gonna die at all.

[A]

Right, Right.

[B]

He's going past. He's gonna be like 150stand.

[A]

Exactly like, but it's. He. Have you seen Total Recall?

[B]

Of course.

[A]

Total Recall is like one of his favorite movies. And he doesn't. He either doesn't or, or even more scarily does. He's Cohaagen. He's literally the guy who owns the air.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

He owns Mars. He owns the air.

[B]

They own space. They're getting like him and Bezos, like, they're like blue. They're like dibs on space, essentially.

[A]

Yeah, he keeps all dibs on space. All the, like, trans weird people and the freaks quote in this one corner and is threatening to kill them by cutting off their air if they don't do what he wants. I mean, that's.

[B]

No, no. He's gonna be president of going to be worshiped on Mars. Like, a hundred years from now. Mars will have people on it. And he will be like, the guy that's. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

It'll be his Prairie Bridge or something.

[A]

People did it with yoga in the Earth.

[B]

Imagine leaving the Earth, setting up life in another planet. They're going to worship you, dude, for like a thousand years.

[C]

We'll be gone.

[B]

And if you don't, we have Mars Moscone.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

All praise be.

[C]

He'll change the name of the planet,

[A]

but he'll use cheap domes that don't have UV resistance, which will turn the people into mutant freaks, of course. And then he'll go, ew, mutant freaks. And banish them to the corner.

[B]

And Venus is where we're going tan.

[C]

And he'll be really upset about it.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So he'll be like, ugh, that's literally

[A]

the plot of Total Revision.

[B]

And you gotta pay the monthly premium for the UV protection.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Like, look, we know it was free at the beginning.

[A]

You wanna upgrade your dome, right?

[B]

We need recurring revenue.

[A]

You guys, three titties over here. You like. You want to have two titties, not three, Right?

[B]

We're getting gamma rays next week, so I would.

[C]

I would upgrade if I were sunburst coming. Yeah, you should really upgrade.

[B]

Highly recommend it.

[A]

I'm just saying. I think I'm gonna put UV tint on the windows of my house.

[C]

Oh, that.

[A]

Yeah, I didn't do that. And I kind of regret it.

[C]

That guy does it. The guy that tinted my car. He mostly does residential now.

[A]

Yeah, we got to do that.

[C]

He's like, I don't like to do cars. Buildings are easier. And sure, I get paid more.

[A]

Windows are flat.

[B]

I guess you save your couch from, like, sun dude. Damage. What do you save your.

[A]

Well, cooling. Cooling your house. Certainly in the summer.

[B]

The uv. But UV doesn't do too much heating. Like infrared, like, the lower end of the spectrum does more of the heating. The uv, they'll do more of, like, biological damage or, like, degrade. You know, paint finishes the primary source

[C]

of felt heat, but, yeah, damages people and things.

[B]

Things. More science.

[A]

I want to fade my wood.

[B]

Yeah, okay. You got some nice wood at the crib.

[A]

That's okay. Wood.

[B]

Yeah, we just got some smoking tire. 200 million dollar podcast.

[A]

Yes. It was me. That was me, dude. I haven't told Zach yet.

[B]

We gotta talk, brother.

[A]

Yeah, no, my wood is.

[B]

I watch those YouTube channels of people that take a. Yeah.

[A]

Literally this did slab.

[B]

This is literally it. Now I'm looking at it again. I watch this stuff. They put the epoxy resin.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They fill it, they sand it down to like 1,000 grit.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then this is like a $8,000 table, isn't it?

[A]

We.

[B]

Matt, how much?

[A]

Yes. No, it wasn't. Shout out to my homie, Mickey Iwasaki, who made us this table.

[B]

Is that the guy that does fat fenders on 911s?

[C]

No, this guy. This guy smokes cigarettes and then cuts up trees and makes tables.

[B]

Oh, he's just sitting on a chair.

[C]

Like, what if I poured plastic in the table?

[A]

You know, it is really. Have you ever met that guy Nakai?

[B]

Is that.

[C]

What's his name?

[B]

The rear wheel?

[A]

Yeah, Nakai. Yeah. I have not. I've not met him.

[B]

What a legend though.

[A]

Yeah. His rider is amazing.

[B]

I wonder.

[A]

I need like, I need Marlboro.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Two cartons of Marlboro Reds. And somewhere I could smoke indoors while I use an angle grinder.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And they bring them a nice chair too. They bring them a nice chair, like, and they put it right in the middle of the shop. And he. And he's got sandals on and he kind of crosses his. It's such a vibe.

[A]

They're like, steve, get up, Steve. Give him your chair, Steve. But this is a Herman Miller boss.

[B]

Give me your fucking chair, Steve. And bring the ottoman. He needs a camera.

[A]

My buddy owns a Porsche dealership and they were having him come to a build really, as a display. Yeah, yeah. And fucking. He calls me and he goes, matt, he wants to smoke while he works. I go, go, yeah, of course. And he goes, but we were gonna do this in the showroom. I go, well, you gotta make a decision.

[B]

Get some filter. HEPA filters in. Because you gotta show if he doesn't

[A]

smoke, you're gonna ruin.

[B]

Like, this is not gonna be a good show.

[A]

Listen, no grit, no work.

[B]

Exactly.

[C]

I mean, that's like a church booking. Bad religion by accident. Like, they're popular band, we hear. Not sure what's with the shirts.

[B]

He's the Dave Chappelle of this car stuff, huh?

[C]

He is, yeah.

[B]

Because he gets to smoke if you hit level of artistry in whatever you do. Yes. Indoor smoking rules no longer apply to you. Sure.

[A]

That's a crime for poor people. Yeah, exactly. Who is that?

[C]

No, no. Sean Penn smoked at the Oscars all night. And they said he got warned six times. Which is like, all right, he had six cigarettes then. And he looks like he smokes every Day. Because he does.

[B]

I love that. The security guy being told you you have to ask him to leave now. Yeah, he's. I am. Sam.

[A]

He's gonna. He's about to win.

[C]

He just played like a psychotic army guy.

[A]

Oh, D. His role is great in that. The way he walks.

[B]

He nailed that walk. He nailed that walk. Those like ex veteran guys face.

[C]

Army dude.

[B]

He nailed that walk.

[C]

His face. His face looks like the Dutch bread we eat. The, you know, crinkled up like an old bag.

[A]

I would definitely let him have grits in the studio. Guys taking a break from the action because support is coming in fast. Like Jim Farley, the CEO of Ford who's now got a podcast and you're always asking me what I'm listening to when not recording this show. And right now it's this, the new season of Drive with Jim Farley. In it, the Ford CEO talks to some of his favorite people about what they're driving and what drives them to succeed. Like Formula one driver Daniel Ricciardo. Listen, there's a well worn trope about racing drivers not being interesting to listen to, but if there is one that is interesting to listen to, it is Daniel Ricardo. I think this guy's takes on stuff and life are great. And. And look, Jim is a racing driver also. I personally raced against him like two months ago. And for me, a CEO that drives race cars on the weekends is about the pinnacle of CEODOM when it comes to car companies. So the two of them together obviously have a lot of things to discuss on Drive with Jim Farley, which you can get on your podcast app. Very easy to find. Drive with Jim Farley. Check it out. Out like whatever you want to tell

[C]

him not to kill you.

[A]

Dave Chappelle. Yeah, he. He'll smoke wherever.

[B]

Yeah. No one will say a thing.

[A]

God, that. That nice. That is a nice privilege of, you know, being that successful. If you like smoking. Which listeners of this show, you a big.

[B]

Not a big, probably big vaping audience, huh? You still think about, huh? Still think about it?

[A]

Cigarettes.

[B]

Every day. Yeah.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Every day.

[A]

Loved him every day.

[B]

It's like, that's what I was thinking about.

[C]

Whenever we talk about cigarettes, he romances it. And I'm still gross.

[A]

I get it. I get it. It's so gross. People shouldn't smoke, but also you get it. Did I enjoy. Look, when you flick through the photos, there's always him sitting Nikai's like wearing Uncle Rico pants, just cutting.

[B]

He's also a style icon. If you actually pay attention to what he's wearing. And like, he's always got like some necks. Look, it's like a high top sandal he's wearing right now. It's like he's like a hype beast. Wearing cigarettes. Smoking. He's pretty much as cool as it gets.

[A]

Not give a fuck. Is as high and a style icon as it exists.

[B]

It looks like he should have a fragrance, doesn't he? Yeah. Doesn't he look like he should.

[C]

He should have like a rap album, A fragrance.

[A]

Yeah. Like, doesn't necessarily look like a guy who does bodywork.

[B]

No, not at all.

[C]

Looks like a music producer.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. He looks like the Japanese Rick Rubin. Yeah, dude. What a legend. Yeah, dude, I'd love to meet this guy.

[C]

His mashup of Skrillex was awesome.

[A]

Yeah, we have. We have friends that are good friends with this dude and say really great things, but just as a. As a character that exists in the universe, you know, there. There should be a. Wow, that's. See, that looks like a good place to smoke cigarettes and cut up fenders. Outdoor pavilion.

[B]

That's what took that wall out in preparation for him, huh? It's on his rider. Yeah. We're gonna have to take that north facing wall out.

[A]

It appears that this is RWB Manila. So they have probably built a outdoor like stadium in the Philippines for him to come.

[C]

And he is an icon because God love. Have we talked about any other body shop work? I mean, ring brothers, they do amazing work, but we don't go look at the picture of them building the thing.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You know, it's where.

[A]

Yeah. Where it's a performance.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. That's why the cigarette is so necessary.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Because it's like what, he's smoking indoors. Just immediately.

[C]

That it has that.

[B]

That's already iconic a little bit like in cigarette. Inside is like, whoa. It's like 1965 or like what.

[A]

By the way, he's also sawzalling a 993 in flip flops.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. With like a perfect line by hand.

[A]

Yeah, look, I think he's wearing Crocs.

[B]

Great forearms. What a legend, man. What else do you want? Yeah, see those Crocs? And he's got flair on him too.

[C]

Oh, yeah, he does.

[B]

He's dressed like Bobby Lee a little bit.

[C]

He's just like Bobby.

[B]

And it's not even an Asian.

[A]

The Asian thing.

[B]

Hey, I'm just.

[A]

If you look at Lee, that's so.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Have you seen that movie Busboys yet?

[A]

Is it good?

[B]

I haven't seen it. I want to go watch it.

[A]

He kind of dressed like Carl also.

[C]

Oh, yeah. A lot of chefs just dress like this because they need comfy feet. And it doesn't really matter what they look like from, like, I don't know, the nipples down pretty much.

[B]

What's it with chefs and tattoots?

[A]

When did that become chefs and tattoos?

[B]

And tattoos.

[C]

Chefs and tattoos, their artistry probably all the same time. Right.

[A]

The aesthetic of being a chef versus, I mean, I don't know. I think chefs are always like pirates.

[C]

Do you think chefs and tattoos preceded, like, tattoos, popularity and everything else? Cause they weren't that popular when I was like 20. And then all of a sudden, it was like, everyone's getting sleeves. Everyone's. I did like, baristas have sleeves. And now it's not tough anymore.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Ten years ago, I worked like some event with a celebrity chef. I was just like, literally a busboy and. And. Or like clearing tables and stuff. And the celebrity chef just. He would keep coming out to take photos with people because they would pay a bunch to eat there.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so they'd be like, kai, can we. I forget his name. Some French guy was on. But he's just like, you know, there's such an aesthetic. The way those cocktail bartenders. Sure. I get their, like, custom leather apron that has like. It's like. I don't know what the string is. It's like chain link on one side, hemp on the other side. Yeah, yeah. And it's tight and fitted in a white shirt and just sleeves. And he's like, got this. Sounds like author glasses. Who?

[A]

Ludo lafeb.

[C]

Oh, I remember that is the guy.

[A]

The petit toi guy to. And petit toi. He's a TV chef. He's.

[B]

They're all the TV chefs. It's all an aesthetic.

[A]

It's like. I mean, for sure, if you're a chef on tv, that's a different story. Because you're gonna Hollywood yourself up a little.

[B]

Magazine. Magazine too. Because they all do picture things.

[A]

Yeah. Except my boy Carl, who gave no forums.

[C]

I wonder. It's also like a way you can individualize yourself. Cause everyone. All the chefs are wearing the same uniform, essentially. But you can do forearms. So you go, well, here's who I am. Because otherwise, I'm just saying, here's the bit. You'll see, it's that in a beard,

[B]

but even these high level ones, the uniform goes down to the wrist.

[A]

So it's like Carl used to say that, you know, back in the day, they would wear toques the hat. The chef's hats, and the different. The height of the toque was how much power you had in the kitchen. So if you were a dishwasher, it was real low. And then.

[B]

That's hilarious.

[A]

And they don't do that anymore. Now the guy with the AP in the kitchen, that's the chef.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Like, it's just a watch.

[C]

Got a Rolex on.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The G shock is. Is doing the soup. Yeah.

[B]

And.

[A]

Yeah, so that's what he was.

[B]

Dude, I was watching the news the other day, and there was, like, some fire or something in Philadelphia, and they had the Philadelphia fire inspector on the news. And, like, bro, the helmet he was wearing, the badge that was on it, it was hel. It looked like a Saturday Night Live parody for firefighters. Like, the size of. Of the badge.

[C]

That's his crown.

[B]

Funniest thing I've ever seen. And I think his said like, holy shit. Yeah.

[C]

Did you find a photo of it?

[A]

Yeah, I think so.

[B]

It shot. It was hilarious, bro. They're all just standing there being very serious.

[A]

The badge look like it should be mounted in the rear window of an Impala.

[C]

I mean, this is an old one.

[A]

It was all gold.

[B]

This one is, like a fabric.

[A]

Holy shit.

[B]

It's like, take a police badge and literally by scale eight times and just put it on a firefighter helmet. It's giant and hilarious. And they're like, yeah, no, you know, at the scene, it was like, it's a very serious. And I'm like, is this a joke

[A]

from a Mel Brooks movie? Looks like Lord Helmet's helmet, bro.

[B]

It looks like aliens, like, pretending to be humans.

[C]

Is.

[A]

It's. Wow. I mean, even just. I'm. The visual that Zach has provided with this photo. I can see the scale, and that's very hilarious.

[B]

I was like, that's so funny.

[A]

Was it a ceremonial?

[B]

No, they were like, oh, it just.

[A]

Oh, boo. What are these?

[C]

It sent me the wrong link. Yeah. Okay.

[B]

Yo, yo.

[C]

All right. If you're facing this person, for people listening, you would not be able to see their head.

[B]

And the chief, I think, is bigger.

[A]

Okay, look.

[B]

So once you take the assistant off, they. They increase it 30 in size.

[A]

For the record, Red lives matter or whatever.

[C]

Absolutely. But the.

[B]

No, no, I'm not laughing at firefighters. That's crazy.

[A]

This helmet.

[B]

Not even the helmet. Just the bad.

[C]

The shield eclipses. The helmet when viewed from the front there.

[A]

Looks cartoony, doesn't it? The shield is, like, a bit cartoony.

[B]

It looks like a costume. And the one I Was watching. It had. This one actually sits directly over the helmet. Theirs was sitting like it was over it. It was like had 2, 3 inch gap over. It was sitting way above. I was like, what.

[C]

I wonder if this is. How do you put that away?

[A]

High risers.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

That one looks badass. This one fits in. It's all part of it. Like, these ones were sticking proud.

[A]

That's like. This is right here is where you've gone plus one on your wheel size here. But you don't want to go plus two. Oh, right.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

It just gets crazy.

[C]

This is like a. This is like a 17. That's like an 18.

[B]

That's an 18.

[C]

Go back to the other guy. This is a 20.

[A]

That's a. That's dub deuces. Right.

[C]

But it looks like this is how they identify quickly, you know, the hierarchy,

[A]

I guess out in the field.

[C]

This has mechanics.

[B]

Keep going.

[A]

Oh, they all have them. They all have the big.

[B]

The big shield. That's about as fire right there.

[C]

Oh, well, these are all.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Fire photos of them fighting an actual fire. People listen for sure.

[A]

But. And the one. The first one, if you go back to the really big one, it had like a manti fin up at the top connecting it to the helmet.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, you're going to need accessories just to keep that.

[C]

Firefighters are listening. First of all, we appreciate you. Second, explain why this. Is this a new.

[A]

No.

[B]

I haven't seen that in any other department. It's not like that by any means in Canada. It's not like that.

[A]

Philly is a funny place in that way.

[B]

That's like. A Philly firefighter is like. That's as American as it gets. You're a hard Philly firefighter.

[A]

You eat all the apple steaks and only from gyms.

[C]

Yeah. And you don't. And you're still alive.

[A]

Just.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

And you throw batteries at the Eagles when they're losing.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, it's definitely a Philly thing. Here's another Philly.

[B]

They grease the light poles before big games.

[C]

What?

[B]

Because people go and celebrate win or loss. They climb light.

[A]

They climb the street lamps.

[B]

So, like they. They literally walk around greasing these things,

[C]

spraying like they won't get up far if.

[A]

Like, if they. If the Eagles win.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They set the fucking building on fire. If the Eagles lose, they set the building on fire and roll the cop cars like, it's crazy. Crazy town.

[B]

A grease budget for the bulls. That's crazy.

[A]

I love Philadelphia. I. Oh, I really. I owe them a visit. I went to college there. So I spent a lot of time there. Oh, it's. It was the best for college. It's the best town. It's like a little mini manageable New York.

[B]

Yes, exactly. Yeah, it does really feel like that, but with.

[A]

With people that are like even funnier New York people.

[B]

Yeah, it feels more like Detroit there because I live in Detroit area for some years.

[A]

It's more walkable. How are we excited for spaceballs 2

[B]

spaceballs for me was like before does all the SNL guys, right?

[A]

Spaceballs.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

No, no, it's Mel Brooks.

[C]

Mel Brooks and Rick Moran.

[A]

Simpsons and John Candy and Bill Pullman.

[B]

John Candy.

[A]

Daphne Zuniga.

[B]

That's a crazy name.

[C]

When does that movie happen?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

They're like making it now.

[B]

When was the first one like 85?

[A]

The first one was 80. Yeah, something something. 85, 86, something. But it's not the Search, it's Spaceballs, the new one.

[B]

I watched this so long ago.

[A]

You really should watch it again. I'd say it. It doesn't exactly hold up, but.

[C]

It doesn't.

[B]

No, no, no. Yeah, but it is funny.

[C]

I mean, it's like the comedy pacing is different, which is, you know, a thing.

[B]

And then Monty Python still holds up.

[C]

It does. It holds up better.

[B]

And it's older. I think something about the dry humoral Britishness maybe lives through time better. Somebody dry humor age is better.

[A]

Whereas like maybe it's cuz it's like there's some subject matter is real older.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, I don't want to say Spaceballs doesn't like hold up. Like some of the jokes are still very funny.

[C]

I think I rewatched it like four years ago and it. Some of them are like. And then the pacing of it is just so different from comedy now that it just feels slow.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Who's the guy that was an Airplane?

[A]

The Leslie Nielsen.

[B]

Leslie Nielsen. He was in. I guess before that was a movie was a show. Right. That show I watched just. And I never watched the show. I just saw a clip of like a shoe shot that they would give that.

[A]

Did you see this clip?

[B]

Funniest thing I've ever seen.

[C]

But I rewatched Airplane like two months ago.

[B]

It was the series that I. I came after. Or before, I'm not sure. But this shoeshine everybody keeps going to. Leslie Nielsen Shoeshan. Yeah. Johnny. The Walking Shoeshine.

[A]

Johnny.

[B]

So good. That first one.

[A]

This is. Isn't the show Police Squad, right?

[C]

That was before Naked Gun.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Before There you Go.

[A]

Yeah,

[B]

he's a recurring guy, but this

[A]

actor who plays the shoe shiner is in a ton of, like, 80s comedies playing, like, the weird.

[B]

He's the old Steve Buscemi.

[A]

Yeah, effectively.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Sorry, everybody, if you were.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, yeah, we. We've been back for a second.

[B]

We've been back.

[A]

We.

[B]

But next up, we had our app

[A]

Totally Freeze, the program that records our podcast.

[B]

Who sponsors you guys? But shout out to them, no dev.

[A]

Who we pay fucking retail to use. Habibi. Come on.

[B]

And then the other clip I saw, then a doctor comes up to him. He goes. He goes. He goes, I got a patient. He's got a mild melanoma.

[A]

This.

[B]

He goes, I don't know, maybe this or that. He puts some money and he goes, you gotta cut in from the visceral, dude. I have. That's pretty.

[C]

That's a good bit.

[B]

Did you give him 4 milligrams of samadahad? He's like, of course. He's like, you want to operate on this?

[A]

That's funny. But that's basically chatgpt now.

[B]

Yeah, no, it fully is, dude. You're on a plane. Everyone around you is just like, just doing the queries and, like, reading and

[C]

just asking for the secrets.

[A]

I was sitting next to a teenage, late teenager college kid, maybe on a flight like last week, and he was coming from wherever to la, and he was sailing in some kind of a race, and he was wearing a sailing team whatever jacket, and I sail. So I was kind of interested and I just couldn't help myself. I glanced over and he had the rule book for the upcoming race on his phone. He had opened it on his phone. It was some document, and he just looked at it for like 2 seconds. Quick scrap, closes it, opens ChatGPT drops this in and just goes, summarize this for me. And it does. And he starts reading the summary, and then he just starts copying and pasting things back and forth. And he's essentially just using ChatGPT to summarize every single thing in his life. And I'm like, the one hand. I'm incredibly impressed at the speed at which he is doing this on his phone. Like, really fucking fast. Yeah, yeah. I'm clearly not optimizing what is possible with my phone. And I don't think my hands can move that fast anyway. But I was also like, oh, man, this is like. There's like a dependency here.

[B]

Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes.

[A]

And just assuming what the answer was right, you know, Further search was not ever done. So I Was like, I was impressed, but also nervous.

[B]

Dude, remember spark notes back in the day?

[A]

Yeah, Spark notes.

[C]

You had to learn to write around them a little bit so the teacher didn't notice.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. Everyone had the same. The themes. What are the themes of, you know, capturing the ride, teenage angst, whatever. If it, if the website was down, you're like, damn it, I got to read the book. You know what I mean?

[A]

I got to do.

[B]

But now people like, they're outsourcing critical thinking.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So you know what I mean? On all fronts. So. And obviously they're going to. Stuff is going to be prevalent everywhere.

[C]

Everywhere.

[B]

But when it does go down, for whatever reason, there's like, you know, processing center outage issues or something. It's going to be like, it's not just like, I got to read the book. It's like people are not going to realize, like, especially the new gen that never, you know, had to raw dog, just troubleshoot thinking.

[C]

Yeah, dude.

[A]

When there's like cell phone outage somewhere for everybody, people kind of, you know, bug out a little bit.

[B]

Because people ask like fully. It's like, you know, used to call a parent or advice an older person be like, yo, you know, I've got a bump and I don't have the

[C]

insurance and they would lie to you.

[B]

That's all AI now. So. So people are just going to be like, people. I think people are literally going to like fall apart.

[C]

Well, I saw a news story today that some law firm got in trouble legally because they were using AI to like, just to write, you know, some of their briefs.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And it was full of like crazy typos, but they didn't proof it because like, like this kid, they just shipped it. And then in court they got in trouble and they called out by the judge and they had to call it AI Hallucinations. They, they're like, sorry, our AI hallucinated a little bit. It's like, no, no, no, you didn't proofread. And then they found like in the firm's terms and conditions, it says trust, do not trust everything we have to verify. Which they didn't.

[A]

There was a lawyer that submitted a full AI written thing that cited case law that wasn't real. Like it was a year or two ago. It was sort of a little more in the beginning of then, like in

[B]

the famous case of Neptune versus Venus,

[C]

Penguins versus Mars,

[B]

it was clear that the disease like, wait, this I don't

[A]

just totally non existent case law. And they're like, yeah, 2040, he's like.

[C]

Well, Oz versus Dorothy says sorry about the hallucination.

[B]

You are not doing your job.

[A]

It was trippy.

[B]

You just get in a liaison. That'd be like. You hire a lawyer to do something. They just type in the inquiry. It's. And then they just export PDF and email it to you.

[A]

Lawyer. Not a middleman.

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

What are you crazy? Crazy. So get good lawyers.

[C]

People.

[B]

Get good lawyers. Don't.

[A]

Don't get. Yeah. Anyway, I got the.

[B]

I got a Tiguan right now from Volkswagen and driving these new cars. Everything, bro.

[C]

Everything.

[B]

No one has something to rest your right hand on anymore. Have you noticed that? There's nothing. There used to be a shifter. They've all consolidated to here. Or a wheel. So it's. And the screens are all bigger. Driving new cars. They all feel like driving a lift.

[A]

Living room. Because supposed to.

[B]

You're leaning. You're leaning now on the middle thing because you got nothing for the right arm. You got a big screen and a road. It just feels like I'm driving my living room.

[A]

I think there's. That's intentional, man. I just had the new charger and it has a shifter and it's actually like a quote pistol grip. Shifter.

[B]

That's just. That's just like marketing name.

[A]

It's more like a mollusk grip or some kind of. Of sex toy grip than it is an actual pistol. But rubbery. But it is you. You could rest your hand on the shifter. I did like that.

[B]

Dude.

[A]

What? I just.

[B]

My body feels so imbalanced. Like, well. Well, put your hands 10 and 2. But it's like all. All of the cars have lane departure, follow distance. They. They optimize and they're so set up for you to have very little input.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then so your. Your arms naturally leave the steering wheel. Always. You know, one will be on it for me. The. The left and I go. That's like me comfortable. But now it's like, okay, your arm is here. I just. I just feel uncomfortable.

[C]

It's like you only have one place to put it.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And over time, you. You want more. So you lean.

[B]

You're leaning. And then it's like this is just my. I feel like I'm sitting on my couch driving on the highway.

[C]

I did that. I drove a Crown Vic for two, three years. And it. No bolstering or anything.

[A]

Great.

[C]

And I leaned and it. My back up.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Big time.

[A]

The lean's not great. I actually get. Sometimes because I have to do really long drives. I actually get bruises on my elbows. From resting them on either the armrest.

[B]

I used to get bubbles on my left arm just sitting here and like sun on. On the sun. Always sun. Cuz I was doing a lot of miles school. Everything just whoa. This would always be darker in the summer. My left arm. You're like, I'm a car guy or

[C]

dark nature or a truck tint.

[A]

The big, the big wide screen is the new thing.

[B]

Have you seen the new Mercedes?

[A]

Yeah, we talked about it last show. What do you think? Class? That's a lot of screen.

[B]

You're like, no, no. They tell you when you have a young kid, they're like no screens before 2. They're in a car.

[A]

Yeah, dude.

[B]

You know what I mean that I close your eye. You're gonna have to put a blindfold on your child.

[A]

The new Lincoln's full.

[B]

I was in the nav screen but. But it's like thinner though and it's. And it's past the dash. It's at the end. Which.

[A]

Which is interesting.

[B]

Yeah, it's an interesting choice. The new like BMW does that too. They have it past it. Whereas the BM or the Mercedes is. It's here it is up front.

[A]

It's like the dash.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. It's like clouds.

[A]

I thought after the last eqs and whatever that they would maybe dial back the screen a little bit, but they doubled it down.

[B]

They doubled down.

[C]

Yeah. I was really surprised after because no one had good things to say about that.

[A]

That EQS or EQE that I drove was like driving around like a Coachella tent.

[B]

But it's too bright. Put up that interior.

[A]

The screen is. Is aggressive. And also like the, the, like the disco lights across the whole. It was, it was so much.

[B]

Yeah. This, the mood lighting or whatever.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, is this it? That's the eqs.

[B]

That's what you drove?

[A]

Yeah, it's disco as hell. It's a lot.

[B]

That's like, that's. That's what concepts in 20, like 12. That's every future concept.

[A]

And also like the, you know the blue lighting that halos around the dash

[B]

and there's so much eye fatigue.

[A]

Right.

[C]

Also. Absolutely.

[A]

It pulses different colors. Like not like you can change it to different colors. Like it will on its own do

[B]

this like to match music or something.

[A]

Color tripping. Shit. Yeah. I mean you can turn this off, but it's.

[C]

Although if all these screens are on, it might actually be nicer on your eyes to have light coming from other sources. Otherwise you're just looking out at darkness.

[B]

They have to do it before that.

[A]

It's so much light.

[C]

When do you think, you think we're gonna have like the windshield screen thing? I think if with Waymo and self driving I think they'll have it in like 10 to 20 years. Looking at the windshield is just stuff.

[B]

Nothing is 10 to 20 years away. Honestly, at this pace. Actually I had no idea you guys have waymos like this.

[A]

Dude, have you tried one yet?

[B]

No, I haven't.

[A]

You should.

[B]

Why?

[A]

Is it because fun.

[C]

It's amazing.

[B]

Is there a camera inside for what you're doing? Way more just a bang on like.

[C]

I wonder the same.

[B]

Think about it.

[C]

They said they don't check unless there's

[B]

like a 30 minute drive real quick.

[A]

Yeah, I. People probably are fucking. But there is a cabin camera. Yes.

[B]

And do they. Are they like being like you? Terms and conditions say no banging in cabin.

[A]

I have. I've never tried to fuck in a Waymo. It's not something that I would.

[B]

You're not there.

[A]

Here's the funny thing about

[B]

whoever made it to the Waymo. Do you.

[A]

I think that people who are in like limos and cabs and stuff already are the people who would be in way. And they really want that driver also in the car?

[B]

Yes, absolutely.

[C]

I don't.

[B]

They prefer that.

[A]

Yeah. I don't mean to like infer everyone's proclivities but like what's it called when

[B]

you like people watching

[C]

watches?

[A]

I mean I. I think people, sex

[B]

and robotics probably are. That's so good to know. I got to show them.

[A]

But also like I think way I. I rarely get in a dirty wayo. The worst I've ever seen. There was a beer can rolling around on the floor of the. Of a wayo I got in once. That's the worst I've ever seen.

[B]

So do they have. Are they constantly going to a depot or is someone.

[A]

It's right here, it's around the corner.

[B]

They just kind of quickly clean them up and get them.

[A]

No, no, no. I think they. They clean them each day or they at least check them, you know and clean them ish. Each day. And when they charge them they do like whatever like a 12 hour shift. Oh there at 8am they like fucking ants marching out all together.

[B]

It's like interesting it's being in New York. You don't see it and we only have them in Toronto. So I'm like coming out here, seeing this in San Francisco. I'm like seeing it like the way they're dispatched out here. I'm like, oh, my God, these. These guys are going to replace everybody in the whole country.

[C]

Well, so Boston's fighting against Waymo really aggress, because like, cab drivers, it's. It's a job, it's a career. Like, they're really trying to fight for the people, which they should.

[B]

I don't. My head. They're always like some weird outlier little thing. In San Francisco, you see three of them. I did not know they were on

[A]

the road the way they are everywhere.

[B]

Yeah. I was like, oh, yeah, this is a takeover right here.

[A]

It won't be ubiquitous soon. It won't be ubiquitous until someone figures out the insurance.

[B]

Oh, yeah. That's probably why it's in a lot of these states. I mean, it's like a liability nightmare.

[A]

Well, the state has to allow it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Right. You have to explicitly allow autonomous vehicles.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then it's. Well, who's going to insure them? Waymo's self insured. They're owned by Google, so they don't need. They can insure themselves. They can start an insurance company. They can afford it. Right, but if it's your car. Yes.

[B]

If you're.

[A]

If you buy whatever and you send it out.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, either to send it out or to use the mode while you're in the car and it has a crash or hurts somebody who is responsible, no OEM will take responsibility of it.

[B]

But I heard Tesla's on full self driving Europe right now.

[A]

They finally allowed in Europe what they've had here for the last whatever. They don't have something better? No, it's something.

[B]

It's still the one here where it's like, put your hand back on steering wheel.

[A]

It's the same.

[B]

Gotcha. They.

[A]

You were not allowed to use that at all in Europe.

[B]

Oh, so they just unlocked.

[A]

They just allowed them to use it now? Yeah, yeah. They don't. Europe. That doesn't have something. Europe.

[B]

You're not ahead on this one, huh? I thought they'd be more ahead on this.

[A]

They're ahead on safety.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They are not ahead on this. This is not safer. I'm just saying it's not.

[B]

So have you written any of these BYDs yet yourself?

[C]

No, no.

[A]

Have you?

[B]

No, I have not.

[C]

Oh, they sell them in Canada.

[B]

They're about to. They're about to let them in, but they're going to take over. I do a joke. I'm like, the EV market is like 1950s NBA and BYD is like black guys. BYD stands for big yellow dick.

[A]

That's a Good fight. That's a really good job.

[B]

They're taking that they're an invasive species, you know what I mean? Because they're freaking doing their EV on a way faster pace of development.

[A]

Yeah, they skipped over cheap labor for the most part.

[B]

They really did.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So it's like, what are they going to do? They're going to. Eventually they're going to make their way in. So what are they going to be like? You have to manufacture them in America or how they. Because they're gonna make their way in sooner or later. How do you get.

[A]

They could tariff the shit out of them and make them, you know, too expensive to be worth buying.

[B]

That's what it is right now. 100 or whatever.

[C]

Probably just keep doing that.

[B]

But apparently that seagull, that BYD seagull is like 11. That's like the cheap BYD car. It's like 11 grand. So even at a hundred percent tariff,

[A]

it's like it would still be one of the cars. Yeah, it would still be really cheap. I mean, I mean we do have like a eight grand. They say we have in this country a lack of affordable new cars and people who only have 10 to $20,000 to spend on a car are forced to buy something with higher mileage and more wear that's gonna have more mechanical problems as opposed to a small and basic but new car that will run for 10 years without giving anyone any bullshit.

[B]

Exactly. It looks like a Honda Fit, doesn't it?

[C]

Yeah, it looks like a bunch.

[B]

Yeah. I'm not out here being like, yeah, bring it in asap. But like I have five minute charging. Like they're, they're on like batteries, battery chemistries that are like just charge fast.

[A]

Well, they have high, they have very high voltage chargers.

[B]

Yeah, It'll be like 500 kilowatt hours. Yeah, yeah. And they're, you know, there's fires, etc. But yeah, right.

[A]

Price of progress.

[B]

Right.

[A]

You know, there's a few things. There's the cheap labor, there's the, the integration that they vertically integrate.

[B]

They own like the battery, the dev. Everything, everything.

[A]

You know, the government sort of organizing all of it to where they have control, which we would not probably want here. But it does create a system that cranks out cars cheaper and more efficiently.

[B]

And it's $6 a gallon out here, so it's $6 a gallon out here. But here, half the cars on the road seem to be electric. 33% a lot. In LA, Tesla's like crazy Taycans. Every third car's a Taycan in LA.

[A]

The of EVs is very high. Huge.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I. Dude, as someone who lives in this town, like, I will never drive a gas car again.

[B]

For. Are you pure electric?

[A]

No, no, no. For fun, for weekends, for that kind of stuff. For enjoyment, absolutely. But for my everyday life, dude, I was just thinking about this because I just spent a week in a gas car, a brand new one, and I got back and I just got into this new Genesis GV60, 60 right now, magma driving downstairs. And I was going, dude, after a week of driving a gas car, getting into an electric car is such a revelation just how nice it is.

[B]

Listen, they're gonna win. It's gonna win.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We all know it's gonna win, right? We all know it's gonna win.

[A]

I'm driving, dude, this thing. I. I may write about this for Road and Track this month. I was hoping the new Charger would be the budget Bentley gt. It's a big gt. You know, I thought it would be. It's got a lot of power. It was not. I got back. I get in this. This is the budget Bentley GT. This has the closest interior to a Bentley GT that you could do for under 100k.

[B]

They're not playing that shit.

[A]

The quilting, the seat. Somebody sat in a Bentley GT and said, you copy this seat. I'm telling you, the shape, structure of the seat, they got as close as they could get with the. They got the quilting. All that silver is real metal. It gets cold. It's like nice and cold in the morning. The. They. Somebody benchmarked the Bentley GT for this car. There's a lot of similarities. Plus you have a really low dashboard, which I love. You've got great. It's got a small footprint, great turning radius. It's.

[B]

It's like the size of a Q3. Yeah.

[A]

But a ton of front space. I am like, super stoked on this car. This is the daily Bentley for most people.

[C]

Starts at 50.

[B]

No, Genesis is not playing around.

[A]

You know, I have this exact one and it's 73,000 because it's the performance, you know, one.

[B]

You have the Magma one.

[A]

I don't. It's not Magma yet. This is just called performance. All wheel drive. The Magma is going to be next year.

[B]

Next year. Got it.

[A]

But what is that? That when you power it on, it spins over and it's the shifter.

[C]

Oh, God.

[A]

It's kind of cool.

[C]

Oh. So it's like glass with lights inside the Jaguar thing.

[A]

But there's. There's hard. Those buttons Are all metal. There's a, there's a scrolly knob for your stations.

[C]

Well done.

[A]

They, the, the controls are on. The steering wheel are super similar to Bentley's controls. Somebody, somebody went, let's knock off a Bentley here. And they did it in a way that I can create fucking robot relate

[B]

to Korean Bentley right there. I'm getting the G90 Black Prestige. That's gonna be dope from Genesis. It's a bummer because I. I'm like in British Columbia for three, four days for shows alone.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm like, this is a car you want to be in. The back seat of. This is like long wheelbase. Yeah. That back seat is on some S Class.

[A]

My uncle Phil has one of these. The wife of the guy who gave me the Mercedes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He's got one of these. A G90.

[B]

It's fire badass. Has a button to open and close the door.

[A]

Yeah. This.

[C]

You want to be driven in this?

[B]

Yeah, exactly. That's why I feel like kind of like, what the.

[A]

This is the budget flying spur for sure.

[B]

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

[A]

I think it's got air suspension or at the very least, very nice adaptive shocks.

[C]

Interior was excellent and better looking than the new seven series.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Oh, dude. Oh, my God.

[A]

Refresh.

[B]

Oh my God, dude. Seven series and S class used to be like this, bro. As far as luxury flagship sedan go, S class is just so fun. Every time I see a seven series, I'm like, what the happened?

[A]

Yeah, I don't know.

[B]

What is it? It's like a giant rectangular prism.

[A]

It's not great. And, and I, I haven't liked the seven series in, I gotta say, 20 years.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. See, that's what I'm saying. Like, it's just. It gets more of a rectangular prism every.

[A]

It just doesn't. It just doesn't do it for me. I don't really know what we're doing here, but I hope they're happy.

[C]

It looks like a concept for like Judge Dread 3. Like, it, it just. It's very angular and brash.

[B]

90s 740.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Look at that comparison.

[A]

I bet if somebody made a sporty shorty, if you, if you. Someone would pay 200 grand if, if a singer like outfit made a sporty short shorty with, you know. Yeah.

[B]

Like, like this is what it's like. Like there's not a lot of cars

[A]

you could singerize, but this would be a good choice. That's beautiful sedan of all time.

[B]

This, right? How beautiful is that?

[A]

Huh? The best.

[B]

How beautiful is that? Every time I see that. You see these in New York a lot and you know, they're a little rusted, but you're like, damn, that was a beautiful car. They nailed it right there.

[A]

When I was growing up in New York and these cameras out, all the rich people got them. They all. These were so popular and they still,

[B]

like, you have all the newest. Everything evolved past them in the parking, all around them. This is the best design wise. Yeah, it's just kind of like peaked there. And I don't. I don't exactly even know why. Like, I look at it, there's nothing specifically remarkable about any part of it, but just it as a whole, when it was. It was boxy in a perfect way.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Just the proportions kept getting higher. Remained the bottom, but grabbed it, pulled it higher up.

[C]

Oh. Like so a foot higher.

[B]

The one side.

[A]

Yeah. This and the Audi S8 from that period work.

[B]

Oh, the Audi, bro.

[A]

The 2002 Audi. The one that Scato has that, you know, God help you if you own one of these and have to take it running. Oh, yeah. God damn. Do they look nice?

[B]

Yeah, like that old, old flagship sedan look beautiful. I think eight series to me is beautiful.

[A]

Dude, think about it. The year 2001.

[B]

In the year 2000.

[A]

Think about the year 2001 for like flagship, flagship sedans. You have the Bentley Arnage, you have this, you have the seven series with the one we just looked at those

[B]

little Mercedes compressors that were driving around.

[A]

It was a good year.

[C]

Compressor.

[B]

Right. The E39M5.

[A]

The key with this car is you have to do the S. So that was the steering wheel I had in my S4 that made me want to vomit. You needed to get the.

[B]

It looks like a Dodge and treble.

[A]

Oh, it's terrible. You had to get the three spoke optional steering wheel. The four spoke. I called it the Beluga whale steering wheel. It's ugly. Yeah, but that Burlwood fucks. That is like a PRS guitar.

[C]

I just remember the plus minus shifting that. When I saw that as a valet,

[B]

I was like, whoa, yo, dude.

[A]

But it's the wrong way.

[B]

Exactly. It's like a sequential box.

[A]

Plus was forward and minus was down. Oh.

[B]

Back then when you pressed it, they thought that was a second before it shifted.

[C]

Right.

[A]

But you know what I loved about this car? Look at the gauges. The double thick white needle.

[B]

Oh, dude, I know. Exactly.

[A]

Regular A8 and S. A4 and A. The A's. Thin orange needle.

[B]

This is the autism, by the way. This is the autism.

[A]

The S has got this fat, white, bright white, fat needle. I thought that that was the coolest fucking shit, dude.

[B]

I was looking at X5s and, like, 2020 or 2019 is the final year they stopped having analog dials and they just switched to just that digital and everything. Is that now? But I'm like, man, it's such a bummer. Something about digital. Something about just the analog.

[A]

Yeah. A gate. A needle on a gate.

[B]

Something about it. I don't know what it is, but you know how you get analog?

[A]

You need to spend more money. If you are not looking at an X5 and instead we're looking at a Bugatti.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, they're all. F. Course, you'd have. You'd be able to look at the gears.

[B]

The clock is like ap.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Everything is visible.

[A]

It's called the Tourbillon. It's named. Look. It's named after the one with the

[B]

crazy steering wheel that, like, floats.

[A]

Dude, look. The. The speedometers and have gears that you can like.

[B]

That's what I'm talking about. See, that's. I'm gonna start saying, if you got

[A]

a Pagani, you could have some, like, real gears. And that's my problem. Yeah, you're not.

[B]

I've been focused on.

[C]

Yeah, you're focused on the wrong car.

[B]

As a boss, I need to freaking get a tech podcast.

[C]

You gotta go.

[A]

You go.

[C]

You're at the wrong dealership. So go down the street to the Bugatti then.

[B]

Did. Speedometer goes to 550.

[A]

Yeah. Kilometers.

[B]

Kilometers still. I mean, I. I think. I think of kilometers as a Canadian, you know, and most of the world, I'm putting that.

[C]

So what do most cars. Speedos stop at, you know, in Canada.

[B]

In Canada.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, most.220. Yeah,220.220.220.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

That's most good cars. Yeah.

[C]

It's pretty wild. It goes to.

[B]

I remember when I was a kid, I freaking looked. There was a badass Corvette parked outside inside a McDonald's, and I looked inside, and the odometer went up to 300. I was like. I just remember, like, what, 300?

[A]

Like, it was a big deal when the. When Bugatti came out with the Veyron

[B]

because he went like, 320.

[A]

In real life, the speedometer was for 300 miles and hours, and the car didn't really have screens, but when you turned it off and walked, even if you looked in the window from the. They wanted to make sure you looked in from the window.

[B]

You.

[A]

You could clearly see a Speedometer that goes to 300 like that, which is a pretty baller move.

[B]

That's crazy. That's what I always do when I was a kid, just like look to see what the final number is.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, in kilometers, it's 420.

[A]

Is it?

[B]

Yo, weed, yo. Happy anniversary.

[C]

Yo, man, Someone Bugatti smoked weed.

[A]

It's really funny when, when you smoke weed as an adult and 99 of that weed smoking is like by your yourself. The idea of need culture completely shifts.

[B]

I know, I know. That's where I'm at.

[A]

Where I was like, why did. Why a free joint? Yeah, well, I like a deal. Yeah, yeah. Now when I go to the weed store, it used to be like, what's the strongest shit you got?

[B]

Now you can't ask that.

[A]

Now it's what's on sale.

[B]

Yeah, bro, I am always in there. Like, honestly, they'll be like, we have a 30. I don't. I don't even want that. Honestly. I'm like, give me a 25% and then vodka infused.

[A]

No, no, They soak the bread in hash oil.

[B]

You don't smoke them?

[C]

Not really.

[B]

You know, Keef. Yeah, they'll. They'll like, they'll like wet it and roll it in key inside those. I don't even know what they're doing. They just increase in potency. 10, 20, 30.

[C]

That's a beer with vodka in it.

[B]

Exactly, exactly, exactly. You just kind of like, you. You stop getting verbal. You go fully non verbal eye contact. That makes you autistic.

[C]

I don't talk to anybody.

[B]

Yeah, but it's like you play piano so well activate music a little bit and just kind of have this. That's why I'm smoking a little bit. Right, sure. That's what I'm going for.

[A]

I'm not trying to not want to murder everybody. I see. Exactly baseline to me, I'm just like, yeah, no, I don't do. I was. When I go to the store, I'm like, give me what would have been amazing in 2004. You know what I mean? Before y' all learned most of this science you're doing.

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

You know what I mean?

[B]

They're like OG Kush. You're like, I'll take it.

[A]

Yeah. And I like, I get the smalls. That's the secret.

[B]

Half gram, you mean?

[A]

No, no, no. Like, instead of like, if you want to buy an ounce. Because I buy ounce instead of like flour, and that's like my month.

[B]

Hey, whatever. When money back here. Smoking tire.

[A]

This is so Cheap.

[B]

I know it's like 100 bucks.

[A]

I would retail in 2004 an ounce for 400.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

Now I'm going to the fucking Snoop Dogg store and swiping my credit card for an ounce for maybe $125.

[B]

That's what I'm saying.

[A]

Maybe 25 years of inflation later. This is so cheap, it's crazy.

[B]

Weed is the only thing, the only example.

[C]

That's probably healthcare getting cheaper.

[B]

And it used to be Canada's weed was always half the price. It used to always be like in Canada it was 10 bucks a gram and in America it was 20 bucks a gram.

[A]

And now is it now.

[B]

Now it's pretty much. It's all kind of converged on. It's a $10 pre roll and like everywhere you go it's a $10 pre roll. Or you can get a three pack, a half grams for 15 bucks. Like it's like all kind of the same.

[A]

Same shit. Yeah, but the smalls, it's the. It's. I buy an ounce of the little small popcorn nuggets, not the big show offy nuggets. They sell them for cheaper. It's the same weed. It just doesn't display as well on the shelf.

[B]

And shredded.

[A]

Break it up and I'm throwing that in a grinder. I don't want full shred. Yeah, but that's myself but like it's the same shit. And it's.

[B]

You'll get a shredded ounce for 75 bucks. 70 bucks. Oh for sure. But it's like exposed. Like it's shredded. You gotta smoke it in 18 hours.

[A]

It is exposed to air. Yeah. It's having a weed party.

[B]

Exactly. That's what's good about the nugs. They stay moist for longer. Right.

[A]

You get.

[B]

Cuz they're just kind of topper wear going right Money.

[A]

New collab vacuum action.

[B]

I bet you got all glass Tupperware, don't you?

[A]

We had no. We had a weed sponsor though for a while and it became problematic that Jackie Childs dude.

[B]

It.

[A]

No, he's the.

[B]

Remember last time that said you smoked me up with that stuff.

[A]

I did. He's the hobby. Do you have any of that stuff? Yeah, he's. But no, we were sponsored by Tradecraft Farm. Shout out to him. And I got a QP a month, which is a problematic amount of weed to have.

[B]

Speaking of things that are problematic, sending you like Xanax.

[A]

It was a lot of Tylenol. So much Tylenol. Speaking of problematic, our patrons [e-mail] Smoking Tire are never problematic. In fact, they're very supportive. If you want to ask questions for the live show, watch the live show, get the show before everybody else. Get extra show. Get a show without ads and get access to exclusive merch and collabs and all of those things. Do it. Not weed though, anymore.

[C]

Let's also plug his dates real quick.

[A]

Yeah, but first patreon.com the Smoketirepodcast first. That also abbaswahab.com has your live schedule.

[B]

Yes, sir.

[A]

Zach has put on the screen. It's West Coastie San Diego.

[B]

San Diego Tonight. Tonight, tonight. Mic drop comedy. Tomorrow I will be at Zephyr Theater.

[C]

That's on my Rosav.

[A]

That's the 23rd.

[B]

This is the 23rd of April, correct? Yeah, I don't know when this comes out, but I'm.

[A]

Tomorrow. We're trying to do it tomorrow for you. So that'd be 23rd of April, Zephyro Theater, La 24th San Francisco.

[B]

Yes, sir. And then on the way home, back to New York in Columbus, Ohio. First time doing a show out in Ohio. The Attic Comedy Club. Pull up to that. And then I'm out in British Columbia next week and Seattle on Monday, May 3rd. More dates after that. Just go on boss swap.com and we'll

[A]

put the link in the show.

[B]

Captain live show.

[A]

Zach, will you flippens it back to the other page and make the words Are you German? No. Yeah, I'm a Jew. It's kind of the opposite. Can you notice?

[C]

Natural enemy of the German.

[B]

Still to this day is like, we have a.

[C]

They're nice now. We, we. We imported all their bed.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we know what it is. We find zems. They walk fast.

[B]

You keep doing that. Yeah, exactly. Even when I came in, they're like upstairs now.

[A]

I have a lot of German cars.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Can you notice these nuts? What is.

[B]

Can you narrow.

[A]

What is the funniest car?

[B]

What's the funniest car?

[A]

The funniest car.

[B]

You know, every time I see a Pontiac Aztec, it kind of makes me laugh a little bit. It makes me kind of smile a little bit. Funniest car. I mean, an Aztec is pretty funny to me. I mean, is there a perfect answer for this? You guys are all, what's. How would you answer that question? What's the funniest?

[C]

When I see like the ssr, the Chevy pickup truck, I just go, oh, that was taken out of an animated movie. I think it's even worse than the PT Cruiser. It just looks like it is so round. Like it should show up with clowns in it, you know, from the dealership and like a birthday cake.

[B]

And the cabin looks tiny on it too.

[A]

So.

[B]

So it's like. It's a tiny two seater, huge fenders.

[C]

It's weird.

[B]

Tiny truck bed, right?

[A]

I do like how many people I've seen and a K truck is a pretty funny little vehicle. K truck, like a tiny little Japanese pickup truck like that people are buying now for like 7,000 bucks. Oh dude, these.

[B]

Oh my God, bro. I love these things.

[A]

They're awesome. But they are pretty funny.

[C]

They are funny. They feel like they.

[B]

That's less funny, more just like pure utility. Tiny. You could carry stuff with it. Fit in a tiny parking spot.

[A]

I don't.

[B]

Just makes total sense to me.

[A]

About half the ones I see driven are being used for utility. The other half are being used for pure style. Yeah, that's more functional.

[B]

I love that one.

[A]

Doing drift cross.

[B]

Yeah. What does that guy do?

[A]

Oh no, he's just burning oil because I think the sandbar was like a two stroke or something.

[B]

Oh, that's what all. That's.

[C]

They're adorable.

[B]

Yeah, I love it.

[A]

Let's see. Uli Kunkel's Autobahn. What group of car enthusiasts have the worst sense of humor? Gotta be Porsche people, right? I don't think Porsche people have the worst sense.

[C]

Do you get any pushback on your cause you cover every oem, every like facet of cars.

[B]

Well, the funniest now I get press cars. So I got a Nissan Armada recently and right when you say Nissan, they come. They come. And it's like you're getting these press guys, you're trying to, you know, come in objectively check it out and stuff. But you know, obviously Stellantis didn't do a lot of good for the PR of Nissan. So people right away attack Nissan.

[A]

Wait, Stellantis? What do you mean?

[B]

Oh, sorry, not Stellantis. Who's the owner group of?

[A]

Just Nissan.

[B]

No, who owns Nissan?

[A]

I mean Nissan, Renault have a partnership but they don't have a parent company.

[B]

I thought it was a parent company either. The Carlos era and after the fact, you know my first car was a Nissan Sentra. So there's billion problems. But Nissan is what people come at nowadays pretty much. Let's just say that that's cuz the

[C]

all the ultima meme, the CVT kind

[B]

of up for them.

[A]

The worst sense of humor.

[B]

I mean I think the 911 people are kind of like nice. Not that 911 has kind of become. Used to be like, that's the car to get to. Work hard. Get that? Now it's kind of like they're all 200 grand for like a base 911. And it's all like, collectors want the air cooled ones. And it's just kind of like tech bro. Money people. Yeah, it's not really about like, I love cars.

[C]

I want that air one.

[B]

It's all that car will appreciate. 10% a year. It's like a portfolio piece now.

[A]

Ferrari people really take themselves very seriously.

[B]

Dude. Yo. A friend of mine got a Ferrari aroma. Not even like, he's a good one. He's got like crypto made crypto money. And just that he showed me the Ferrari and then I'm looking at the rims, I'm like, oh, man, these are like sick. And I don't know what this. He says, he goes, the thing is about Lamborghinis is Lamborghinis is new money and Ferrari is old money. And then I go, bro, you just got money. He goes, I know, I know. It's already ruining him. It's already it. It goes into your brain like a freaking

[A]

new money, bro. If you have money, you had a Ferrari before, you had to buy a Roma to get into it.

[B]

But it's like we're looking at the rim. You see this? It just shot at Lambo for no reason. Amazing.

[C]

He already thinks he's too good for himself.

[B]

Live in front of my eyes.

[A]

Duffel shuffle, retirement club. Favorite road trip snack. That's not a black coffee in Marlboro red one hundreds. I mean, there isn't a better one. Jerky for sure. Jerky.

[B]

That sweet heat one.

[A]

Yeah, like a roasted. A dry roasted nut.

[B]

You say Deez nuts.

[A]

Not specifically that brand, but Dry roasted. Dry roasted peanuts. Gut is my road.

[B]

Then you need too much water, like too much liquid. There's just too much sodium going on. True. You're just like. You just gotta get.

[C]

I play that game for hours. I'll do the popcorners, big bag and like a Gatorade.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So you're getting electrolytes?

[C]

Yeah, sodium and electrolytes. And then I've got to pee, but all right, whatever I find, I find

[A]

standing up for a little bit every hour and a half is good for me anyway.

[B]

Like in your seat, like one of these or getting.

[A]

No, no, no. Getting out of the car. It's a good for my back, it's good for my bladder. It's good for my brain, you know? Oh, I can't. I haven't fact checked this claim but don't judge an engine by its cover. Says as of 2025, the Subaru BRZ has taken the WRX's spot as the most ticketed car in the U.S. do you see this more as an increase in the enthusiasm surrounding the BRZ or the fall of the popularity of the wrong wrx?

[C]

Both.

[B]

Yeah, probably both. You know the, the BRZ people are they like the, the pure rear wheel drive.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

We're gonna drift this thing. So they're probably doing more stunt stuff than the WRX people. The WRX and the S that used to be like I'll work hard, I'll make some money. They're just vaping hard, right. They're not even doing anything crazy. No one's going off road with the wrx. But I imagine BRZ people are doing stupid as that's true.

[A]

I also think they've, they kind of, they stopped making the STI a while ago. The WRX is softer and not really as like friendly. Now it does but like the, the there's just more used BRZs and shit around for kids to buy and drive. Stupid.

[B]

It's the cheapest you can get into a rear wheel drive car pretty much. Right? That's a manual rear wheel drive car

[C]

and that has more space than Miata.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. So that is going to lead to shenanigans. Shenanigans. Young people in a rear wheel drive car doing shenanigans.

[A]

We'll save the watch question for next time. Maki Machiavelli. That's pretty good. Dream City Venue.

[B]

You wish to perform at Dream City Venue. This is not really a dream city. I'd love to do a big venue in my hometown. I grew up in London, Ontario, Canada. Shout out London in Ontario. So we have now it's called the Canada Life Place. That's the biggest venue in. So growing up it was called the John Labatt Center. Then it was called the Budweiser Gardens. You know these centers keep getting here. You guys got crypto and whatever though.

[A]

So now we've always had stupid names for stuff and going next is going

[B]

to be called the Amazon Prime. Yeah. You know, recreation center.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Yeah. But now it's called Canada Life Place. I love to play just the biggest venue in my hometown. Just to be like, you know, that's like what Kevin Hart played like 10 years ago to just be like.

[A]

Yeah, you know by then it'll be the Bluetooth.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. It'll be called the Waymo Love the Palantir Yeah.

[A]

The Kalsi gamble on everything. Yeah.

[B]

The Saudi Arabia fun place. Thank you to our Saudi Arabian owners. We'd like to thank them and enjoy. Yeah. Get a. Get a hummus hot dog.

[A]

Like the Qatar Embassy now.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Pretty much like you have to show a passport to get in there. Dre from Houston, what is an unreliable car you would all buy even though you know better?

[B]

Well, you know he's going on about Range Rover. Range Rover, dude. My good friend Jawad is general manager at London, Ontario Range Rover. So every time I go there and I shit talk Range Rovers all the time, that's another one where we can all shit talk them and it will not affect sales one bit.

[C]

Very true.

[B]

Range Rover is like they just took I even in la. It's like the aesthetic. They nailed the aesthetic and they even at one point apparently were doing. Putting money into increasing reliability and stuff like that and like kind of doing a push to reduce claims, etc. And it had no effect on sales. They noticed like. Yeah, it's just the aesthetic and the name that sells.

[A]

And they're very comfortable and extreme.

[B]

Extremely. Dude. They go out down the road, they're

[A]

really nice, they glide.

[B]

They're really beautiful sound systems. They feel great. So for sure. Range Rover Sport svr, baby. All day.

[A]

I'd buy a full size Range Rover.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Because I don't have any evidence that the new ones are. You could. I would buy the cheapest full size Range Rover, which I got one as a press car. Yeah, it was 105,000 bucks. Still a lot of money, but. But for a full size Range Rover.

[B]

Great.

[A]

And it has had like pretty much everything, a lot of features. Yeah, yeah, it was great.

[B]

Very comfortable. Very comfortable.

[A]

Queer shifting gears says at our recent Lemons race at Mid Ohio, our transmission got stuck in fourth gear in a 1996 maxima, everyone on the team ended up running faster lap times by three to six seconds compared to their first day. Have you ended up with similar issues that ended up frank the better. I've never ended up faster with a car stuck in fourth.

[B]

Yeah. How does that mean? How does that make. That doesn't make sense though.

[A]

I mean, a couple things could happen. One is they got faster on because they just got better at the track. You know, their lap times are probably just going to be better on day two than they would be on day one.

[B]

Correct. Correct.

[A]

Second is.

[B]

But not third. We're not saying third. We're saying fourth.

[C]

I know. Yeah, I agree. And I'm looking at all the Corners.

[B]

There's a lot of straightaways there. That's I guess.

[C]

No, this is the track. It looks like this.

[A]

You can easily run this track in fourth gear. And I'll tell you why. The straightaway, the entry onto the straightaway is going to be probably the boggiest bit. But that hairpin, which this course runs clockwise, is downhill. So you're going downhill on that hairpin onto the front straight. So you got a little assist. The front straight. Straight is slightly downhill. The whole roller coaster bit at the top of the north end of the. Of the thing is mostly downhill. Some is back. This bit where Zach is on the east side is back uphill. But it's fast.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you kind of got some inertia.

[B]

You can stay at a higher speed, like above like 60, 70 miles an hour the whole time. Yeah.

[A]

And the bits that are slower, you have a downhill assist.

[B]

Got it. And so you always keeping speed.

[A]

I think it's interesting. Maybe your drivers.

[B]

Kind of crazy, though.

[A]

Maybe your drivers were just better when they could focus on their line and weren't shifting. Maybe they weren't blowing the tires off, lower gears. Maybe they were just smoother.

[C]

Probably all of those things. Yeah.

[A]

How interesting.

[B]

That's about us.

[A]

I've never had a car that broke and then we went fast.

[C]

They probably focus a lot on maintaining momentum.

[B]

If you said that like third gear, I'm like, yeah, okay, I can see that.

[C]

2.

[B]

I don't know about that. You know, top out pretty early, but 30. I could see that. Fourth, you're like, what? Fourth?

[A]

Very interesting.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, very interesting.

[B]

Fifth gear. We like what?

[A]

Maybe they weren't over driving the tires and the tires were holding up better. How interesting. Christian says, can you explain how all car companies have to use smaller gas engines for emissions and global standards, but Ferrari will put a V12 in their suit. SUV and Hummer said they're going back to gas and hybrid.

[B]

Well, so the Hummer's ditching their. Their electric Hummer. Well, or they're given a range extended version.

[A]

They're probably gonna have an electric one and a hybrid one. But like there.

[B]

But here's the thing. The super small volume players, I don't think they have to do EPA the same or emissions.

[A]

The super small ones like Ferrari kind of do. Ferrari is special because they're under another parent company, Fiat.

[B]

So Fiat gets all of their numbers from the mass and then they let them have an allotment of like anything goes.

[A]

Yeah. But also they do still have hybrid product. The 296 is hybrid. The new 849 Testarossa, which replaces the SF90 is hybrid. The F80 is hybrid. There's going to be a hybrid version of.

[B]

But they do that for performance though, right?

[C]

But it still gets them the credit.

[A]

It still gets them the credit. It doesn't matter why you do it if you do it.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So yeah, they. So, so Ferrari's math says, well, we can still put a V12 in the 12C and we can put a V12 in the purosangue if we do these other things to balance it out. I mean fucking dude. It's not all, all car company GM is still making a manual Blackwing with it gets eight miles a gallon.

[B]

You know, not the CT4, whatever.

[A]

The CT5 Black Wing, the.

[B]

The. That's the only one left, right?

[A]

Is the only manual V8.

[B]

They took out the, the small one. Is that the, the CT4?

[C]

Well, they're canceling the 4 and the 5 after 2026.

[B]

Oh, I didn't know the 5 too,

[C]

but the 5 black wing. But the CT5 will come back.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

According to Car and Driver.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

That's a badass car right there.

[A]

Oh, it's awesome.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, so that it used to be like M5 in that.

[C]

Right.

[B]

And then F. M5 went full hybrid, £5,000. So now it's actually in a special place that nobody else is for sure. Yeah.

[C]

Fantastic.

[A]

And companies that want to sell in different markets to different type of customers have different global regulations. So like the M5 Hybrid for instance, they really need to sell to people in like the uk where those plug in hybrids are very advantageous to the standards that those.

[B]

Anything that comes out now that's not a hybrid. I'm actually like surprised. Like I'm shocked.

[C]

I think you just by the.

[B]

Yeah. Just from like from a mass point of view, fuel economy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And from a performance point of view, performance, you know what I mean? They get, they get those little charges, they put little electric motors. So now it shaves like a third of a second off. It adds weight but. Or they'll try to put the motor in there to like smooth, you know, gear shifts and whatever they like.

[A]

If you don't have the resources to do it properly, you can make a car real shitty by trying to. To do a hybrid. Like you gotta have the resources to make the integration very smooth and really good. And so there's some people that don't have like Nissan, you don't want a Nissan hybrid. Stellantis, obviously, they just shut down their Hybrid division. Not because they didn't think hybrids are worth investing. Cause they were so shitty.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They had so many problems. So a great hybrid is great, but, like, a bad one is like a huge red flag.

[B]

It's just that technology is so ubiquitous now that it's like, you think they would just benchmark a T, take a Camry, take a Prius, rip it apart, figure out what they did.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Every RAV4 only comes hybrid now because if you look 99% of the road are hybrid. They're like, you know, what are we doing?

[A]

Yeah. Darian Lux says you're allowed to make any one race car from history street legal. What's your pick and why? What street legal race car would I like to drive that is not currently street legal?

[B]

Was the CLK GTR street legal?

[A]

There was a street version of it, but there was. You could. One could argue that the racing version was the back flippy one.

[B]

Yeah. Having had that poster, I'll have to go with the clk. And I always just love seeing CLK gtr.

[C]

So many letters.

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

I would like to have a plate put on that T1 Raptor thing that Zach and I got to have a go in, which is Ford's carbon tub Dakota car race vehicle.

[B]

That's like a buggy.

[A]

It's called Raptor, but it's not a Raptor.

[B]

I think I saw it.

[A]

It's like a psychotic buggy.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Is it.

[B]

It's got, like a giant winch or something in the back. What's it got in the.

[C]

No, no, this is a.

[A]

It's this.

[B]

Oh, this I have never seen. Dude, that looks like a Mars Rover.

[C]

That's crazy.

[A]

Incredible car with it.

[B]

That's sexy as hell.

[A]

So it has a. It has a. You guys ripped this.

[C]

We got to ride in it.

[A]

We got to ride in it.

[C]

With their pro, they wouldn't speed. It was.

[B]

Did you do a jump? Did you guys do a jump?

[A]

We did some small ones. Some small ones. There was air for sure, but there wasn't like a big table.

[B]

This looks like some Ken Block shit right there.

[A]

But it's the.

[B]

The.

[C]

The.

[A]

The speed that you could carry over Whoops. Was you could carry 100 miles an hour over Whoops.

[C]

It's got a Mustang engine effectively in the middle, and then it's carbon fiber.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And so, you know the wheels.

[B]

T1 Raptor, T1 Plus, I've never even heard of this.

[A]

And it's a eight into one exhaust, which makes it. It sound like a Formula One car real crazy.

[B]

Like eight headers or like.

[A]

Yeah, like all eight headers go into one pipe is just high pitched. Very cool.

[C]

Super cool.

[A]

Would you. Would you drive a race car on the street? Do you have a choice for this question?

[B]

Didn't I say seal kid, you too.

[A]

Oh, you did say se. Sorry, sorry, sorry. You fucking with me, bro.

[C]

Sorry.

[A]

No brain damage. We got five minutes and so don't break for the kink. Says, do you think we'll ever see Apple aftermarket ADAS tuning? I'd love a tailgate mode for left lane campers. I don't think you'd have a. I don't.

[B]

Honestly, I don't even know what that's saying.

[A]

Adas. So I mean, I think so like, ADAS is like lane keep assist. All the safety assists can get very intrusive and annoying. So I think that in the future there will be people like COBB tuning and apr, and these companies will have just like, they can tune for horsepower. They'll be able to tune so that when the car turns on, all the ADAS systems are not on by default, so you don't have to turn them shits off every time.

[B]

Awesome.

[A]

What don't break for the kink is saying a custom programmable ADAS that would, for instance, tailgate people. I don't know any programmer that would responsibly put that in a car.

[C]

No, but I'm sure, I bet programmers campers will.

[B]

Got it. Okay. I think you just have to do it manually. You're gonna have to do it manually.

[C]

I truly think, like, people always find a way to meddle with cars in some way because there's too many people. Someone will eventually sell a program that will make it like if every car is autonomous, they'll go, well, here's a little spicy version, you know, and they'll, they'll do that.

[B]

Yeah. The problem is tailgating. So if you like, you know, you want to tailgate somebody for a left lane camper, right? So it's like you want to get an asshole out of the the way.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But then if you're not doing it to somebody who's left lane camping, you're being an asshole. So it's an asshole, right? Are you the asshole or are you trying to stop an asshole? Yeah, you have to do it manually. Don't you have to do it manually like, like your dad did and his dad before him?

[A]

I don't think tailgating works. Flashing works better than tailgate at night.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Even in the day. I'm leading these events across entire states. And I have to be flashing people to move over all the time. And I have a pretty high success rate.

[B]

America's pretty bad about that. Where it's most of the world. Canada too.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Where it's like, most of the world's like, oh, I need to get out of the way. Yeah. But here people are like, fuck you. I'll do what I want. Like, there's a little bit of that. Hey, I'm here. Like, there's not. It's not really a left lane, passing lane mentally for a lot of people.

[A]

I just want to not drive behind other people.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I'm going four over, and that's as fast as anybody should ever be going. So.

[B]

Yeah, you run into that a lot here. When they're like. And they're, like, proud that they're not moving, right.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then you pass them, they just won't move their neck.

[A]

You're like, some states are better than others. Nevada is really good.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Texas is pretty good.

[B]

Texas is good.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I like driving in Texas. Dallas is a little annoying sometimes, but

[A]

I'm just specifically in there. In their etiquette of pulling out of the way.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Dude. Thanks for coming by last minute. Good show.

[B]

Thank you for having in the house.

[A]

Go check out those tour dates@abas wahab.com or on the socials. Yeah, catch him in LA.

[B]

Catch me in LA if you're getting

[A]

this show when it goes up. He's in la on the 23rd.

[C]

That's today, so definitely give him a follow on Instagram. Tik Tok, your reals are very funny.

[B]

Thank you, man. I appreciate you. Thanks for having me.

[A]

And a very high percentage of your comedy is about cars. So if you're into this show, you'll probably like your comedy. Thanks, dude. And thanks to our patrons for asking such good, good questions. We appreciate you guys. Zach and I are going racing, so we'll see you from the other side of that race next week. Peace out.