Comedian Abbas Wahab

Summary

The Smoking Tire Podcast - Episode Summary: Comedian Abbas Wahab

Release Date: May 6, 2025

Hosts: Matt Farah & Zach Klapman
Guest: Abbas Wahab

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1. Introduction

In this engaging episode of The Smoking Tire, hosts Matt Farah and Zach Klapman welcome comedian Abbas Wahab to the studio. Abbas, known for his clever automotive-themed humor on Instagram Reels and TikTok, brings a unique blend of comedy and deep automotive knowledge, stemming from his engineering background and experience in Detroit's automotive sector.

2. Abbas Wahab’s Background

[06:06] Abbas Wahab:
"I was raised in London, Ontario, two hours from Toronto, but then like cutting my teeth in comedy. Was all in Toronto."

Abbas shares his journey from pursuing an engineering degree to working as a tier one supplier in Detroit, where he built fuel tanks for Jeep Wranglers. His technical expertise and lifelong passion for cars laid the foundation for his comedic ventures, allowing him to create content that resonates deeply with car enthusiasts.

3. Transition to Automotive Comedy

[07:00] Matt Farah:
"But like, most comedians, even the ones who like cars aren't making like insidery car industry sketches. So like that had to come from somewhere."

Abbas explains how his insider knowledge of the automotive industry enables him to craft authentic and humorous content that stands out in the comedy scene. His ability to blend technical insights with humor has garnered him a dedicated following.

4. Car Discussions and Anecdotes

a. Nissan and Car Reliability

[07:48] Matt Farah:
"They've just heard that you did a thing they haven't actually seen."

Abbas discusses his often critical yet fair stance on Nissan vehicles, highlighting their reliability issues humorously. This segment delves into the common woes associated with certain car brands, making it relatable for many listeners.

b. Mustang GTD vs. Porsche GT3RS

[60:00] Matt Farah:
"He's driven a couple. He's driven a couple Chinese cars."

The conversation shifts to high-performance vehicles, comparing the Ford Mustang GTD's impressive Nürburgring lap times to the Porsche GT3RS. Abbas and Zach explore the balance between performance, price, and practicality, offering listeners a nuanced perspective on luxury sports cars.

Notable Quote:
[61:08] Matt Farah:
"That's still pretty impressive. It's under seven minutes."

c. Volkswagen ID Buzz and Kia Soul Fusion

[43:46] Matt Farah:
"And aura has a great deal for mother's day."

Abbas shares his experience driving the Volkswagen ID Buzz, discussing its range anxiety and charging challenges. The hosts also touch upon the cultural shift from VW Beetles to Kia Souls among younger drivers, underscoring the evolving landscape of compact cars.

Notable Quote:
[44:30] Zach Klapman:
"Mazda has a crossover that is same size battery pack, but gets 310 miles. But the Buzz gets 234."

5. Electric Vehicles and Charging Infrastructure

Abbas provides firsthand insights into the practical aspects of owning an electric vehicle (EV). He discusses the challenges of range limitations, especially when driving long distances, and the costs associated with fast charging in areas like San Diego.

[45:14] Abbas Wahab:
"I think San Diego is the most expensive electricity in the country."

The hosts debate the economic and logistical aspects of EV ownership, emphasizing the importance of home charging solutions to maximize cost-effectiveness.

6. Car Culture and Collecting

a. Concept Cars and Museums

[63:10] Matt Farah:
"It's completely insane down there. There's a video of Jim Farley..."

The discussion delves into the allure of concept cars like the Ford Indigo and their place in automotive culture. Abbas and Matt explore the passion of collectors who invest heavily in unique and rare vehicles, highlighting the intricate relationship between automotive design and personal expression.

Notable Quote:
[65:35] Matt Farah:
"It's a testament to our engineering."

b. Hostile Architecture and Urban Driving

[36:03] Matt Farah:
"Yeah, it's pretty discreetly a pretty aesthetics disguised."

Abbas critiques urban planning elements like hostile architecture, which deter individuals from parking or resting in public spaces. This segues into a broader conversation about the challenges of navigating dense city traffic, especially in places like New York City.

7. Car Maintenance and Reliability

Abbas shares personal anecdotes about dealing with car repairs, such as his experience with a Nissan Sentra's unreliable mass airflow sensor and the frustrations of costly dealership fixes.

[78:23] Abbas Wahab:
"I put it too close to the serpentine belt, and my AC just stopped working."

These stories underscore the importance of understanding vehicle mechanics and advocate for more reliable car engineering practices.

8. Conclusion and Upcoming Events

As the episode wraps up, Abbas Wahab announces his upcoming comedy shows across various cities, including New York, Seattle, and Portland. The hosts express gratitude for Abbas's insights and humor, encouraging listeners to follow his performances and continue supporting his automotive comedy journey.

[92:29] Matt Farah:
"Thank you for having me."

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• [07:00] Matt Farah:
  "But like, most comedians, even the ones who like cars aren't making like insidery car industry sketches."

• [60:00] Matt Farah:
  "He's driven a couple. He's driven a couple Chinese cars."

• [61:08] Matt Farah:
  "That's still pretty impressive. It's under seven minutes."

• [44:30] Zach Klapman:
  "Mazda has a crossover that is same size battery pack, but gets 310 miles. But the Buzz gets 234."

• [45:14] Abbas Wahab:
  "I think San Diego is the most expensive electricity in the country."

• [65:35] Matt Farah:
  "It's a testament to our engineering."

• [78:23] Abbas Wahab:
  "I put it too close to the serpentine belt, and my AC just stopped working."

These quotes highlight the depth and humor Abbas brings to the discussion, making the episode both informative and entertaining for car enthusiasts and casual listeners alike.

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Transcript

[Matt Farah]

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[Abbas Wahab]

If it lined up before the.

[Matt Farah]

It always lines up, you know. Here we are. Welcome.

[Zach Klapman]

You are.

[Abbas Wahab]

Thank you.

[Zach Klapman]

Welcome to California.

[Matt Farah]

This is it.

[Abbas Wahab]

We live.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. And wait, and. But you.

[Abbas Wahab]

You.

[Matt Farah]

It was your first time in San Diego yesterday, but not la. You've been to la, right?

[Abbas Wahab]

Been to la.

[Matt Farah]

Rolled up proper in the. Id Buzz.

[Abbas Wahab]

ID buzz. I'm in it. Are sleeping in the back.

[Matt Farah]

Fuck out of here. You're camping in that motherfucker. Seriously.

[Abbas Wahab]

First, I've never had an opportunity in that.

[Matt Farah]

Was that your pitch to veto? Not at all.

[Abbas Wahab]

In fact, I don't even know if they want me to market it like that. I'm wondering.

[Matt Farah]

I'm like, look, dude, please, please don't enc. Encourage urban van camping in Los Angeles.

[Zach Klapman]

Oh, that's a big part of that.

[Abbas Wahab]

In our hippie urban van camper.

[Matt Farah]

You're doing that tonight in la?

[Abbas Wahab]

Well, tonight in la, I know a bunch of people. So I'm just gonna go park in the driveway. And if they. If they have a guest room, like, my buddy Jackson Banks is on the show, if he has a room, I'll crash there. But I'm like, dude, at this Point. I got my little mattress in the back.

[Matt Farah]

Hell yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

I'll just park. San Diego is sketchy.

[Zach Klapman]

Really.

[Abbas Wahab]

I didn't know where to go. I didn't know where to park.

[Zach Klapman]

It's very like fairly safe city compared to.

[Abbas Wahab]

I know most of it is.

[Matt Farah]

A little of it is.

[Zach Klapman]

That's true.

[Matt Farah]

But I saw Santino. We went to go see Andrew Santino down there and right around the theater, whatever the theater he was at, the area around, it was like mayhem. Yeah, mayhem. It was like. It was where I think it's like Gas lamp or whatever it's called.

[Zach Klapman]

Baseball stadiums there.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. It's where all the trashiest clubs are at. And like everyone at 2 cuz the show was late. Everyone at 2am was the most drunk. And just.

[Abbas Wahab]

It's like Austin 6th street where just. It's chaos at night that I feel.

[Zach Klapman]

Like if you want to watch army recruits fight Navy recruits while trying to get laid.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, exactly. A 19 year old testosterone.

[Matt Farah]

Exactly.

[Zach Klapman]

You see a lot of it just.

[Matt Farah]

An 80s movie every day. Like, you Navy guy, you fly boy. Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

I love all that because I was in the naval reserves in Canada for like six years ago. Like when I was 17 till I was like 23. But that's why I was like in San Diego seeing all those like destroyers and these. I'm like, yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Did you have to do much in the naval Reserves in Canada? What did you do?

[Abbas Wahab]

No. Reserves in Canada is kind of like the Boy scouts with a W2, you know, I mean, I mean we call it a T4 up there, but this is for the American audience.

[Matt Farah]

Did you ever see the Pauly Shore movie in the army now? No, I haven't reserved you as a reservist. Even a Canadian one. I think you'd probably find it funny. It's like be all you can be on the weekends.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, exactly. And the rest of the time you're drunk up your ass.

[Zach Klapman]

That's literally.

[Abbas Wahab]

Homer joined the Navy is kind of why I joined.

[Matt Farah]

That's awesome. I think that's why a lot of.

[Abbas Wahab]

People are like, it's a great episode.

[Matt Farah]

See the world get shit faced.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Where in Canada are you from?

[Abbas Wahab]

I was raised in London, Ontario, two hours from Toronto, but then like cutting my teeth in comedy. Was all in Toronto.

[Matt Farah]

In Toronto, yeah. Who's like the heaviest? I mean there's like the sketch comedy guys, right? But are there. Who's the heavy standups from Toronto who was like running the fucking shit up there?

[Abbas Wahab]

Well, here's the thing about Toronto is like anybody that gets to a certain level, they leave. That's the Canadian. It's like the ceiling is here. So if you're heavy, you're in America now. Yeah, yeah, for the most part. Right. But there's a lot of people killing it right now on this side.

[Matt Farah]

You know, like, they ran sketch in the 90s, though.

[Abbas Wahab]

Oh, you're talking about like.

[Matt Farah]

And the kids in the hall, guys.

[Zach Klapman]

And then Mike Myers.

[Matt Farah]

And Mike Myers and all. And all there was. We had all. We got them all. The other.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, you guys suck them down here, man. Jim Carrey.

[Zach Klapman]

All right.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

The appeal.

[Zach Klapman]

Probably scaring him north again. So you'll have him back soon.

[Abbas Wahab]

Oh, yeah. With his beard.

[Matt Farah]

Keep your citizenship, guys.

[Abbas Wahab]

A bird coming out of it.

[Matt Farah]

Beard. Does he have. Does he have a beard right now?

[Abbas Wahab]

He had a big. I think he got the beard was the painting period.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

Right.

[Matt Farah]

Uhhuh. Now I think he's into, like, weird non.

[Abbas Wahab]

Science, so it might be a mustache.

[Matt Farah]

I think he's on the Steve Jobs Jobs track where he's just like, I just. My medicine is just pomegranate juice, I think. I think it was like a weird spirit.

[Abbas Wahab]

He's in the stratosphere. He could do whatever he wants or just like, hey, Jim, you know Jim Carrey, you know, he hula hoops now and he's.

[Zach Klapman]

He's doing that and he's not bad at it.

[Abbas Wahab]

He's not bad at it.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. It's like he. He's. He's like the white Andre 3000.

[Abbas Wahab]

Right, right. He can go wherever he wants, wear whatever you want.

[Matt Farah]

The airport. Playing a flute, like. Well, and let's just give him a Grammy now because he get there.

[Abbas Wahab]

Who's a. Yeah, exactly.

[Matt Farah]

That.

[Abbas Wahab]

It looks like a nest.

[Matt Farah]

Beard carry.

[Abbas Wahab]

What a legend. What a legend.

[Matt Farah]

He looks very relaxed. You can imagine a little yellow bird just like, peeking it's out of there and he's. Pulls like a worm out of his.

[Abbas Wahab]

Pocket, feeds it softly. Jim was here.

[Matt Farah]

Oh, and you're in New York now?

[Abbas Wahab]

I'm in. Living in Bushwick, Brooklyn.

[Matt Farah]

Nice.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah. Just. Just moved out there at the beginning of the year, the day before the inauguration. I moved out there.

[Matt Farah]

Okay.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, because I'm so. I'm bor. In Sudan, which is one of the. You know, a couple years back, the Trump travel ban.

[Matt Farah]

Oh, right.

[Abbas Wahab]

So Sudan was one of those countries we made, remember?

[Matt Farah]

So I used to learn about the su.

[Zach Klapman]

Your jokes are really good. You're like, hey, you should let me in.

[Abbas Wahab]

We made the cut, baby. I used to Work in the automotive sector in, in Detroit. The automotive sector.

[Matt Farah]

Oh really? Is that where your car bits like came? The, the, the.

[Abbas Wahab]

I love car since I was a kid. But I, I, before comedy I got an engineering degree and I went to work in the Detroit. I was, I worked as a supplier. We built like fuel tanks for the wrangler and a bunch of stuff like a tier one supplier. So that's where I got, you know, my feet wet with that life. All of these videos I do are not really related to the, on the engineering side. It's just kind of like I was just shooting the shit a couple times and they hit and I just kept repeating it kind of, you know.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, but it like most, most comedians, even the ones who like cars aren't making like insidery car industry sketches. Like most aren't. So like that had to come from somewhere. And obviously working in the industry itself.

[Abbas Wahab]

And having a car obsession since I was a kid, like I've always just been obsessed with cars. But like I said the, the content, I just randomly made this and that. And then like you said these inside baseball people like, oh, this guy's, this guy likes cars.

[Matt Farah]

Like this one actually gets it. Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah. That's why I started following. I was like, oh, these are accurate, insightful, pretty factual and very funny.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

And I don't think journalists could get away with picking things apart the way you did, which is great.

[Abbas Wahab]

Someone hit me up like, yo, I work with Nissan marketing and I'm like, I've shit a lot on Nissan. I don't think they want to do anything.

[Matt Farah]

They've just heard that you did a thing they haven't actually seen.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, it's been pretty generally negative towards Nissan specifically. Well, such a neon just right now. Yeah, exactly.

[Matt Farah]

Dude. Coming off the mountain today, I saw a hard body that was the, it was a two door Pathfinder, black mint with like what looked like the brand new OEM graphics on the sideline. I think someone actually restored a first gen two door Pathfinder. It looked freshly restored.

[Abbas Wahab]

That's the state they're in right now.

[Matt Farah]

Pretty awesome.

[Abbas Wahab]

They, a lot of people miss the Xterra, right? Yeah, that's like the community like I was making fun of it and all the comments were like Dexter though. Yeah, leave the exterior out of it, man. It's like their Land Cruiser kind of like. Nah man.

[Matt Farah]

I mean the Ultima is like the lowest hanging fruit probably in car jokes. Right.

[Abbas Wahab]

Gray Altima, I mean just chaos on wheels.

[Matt Farah]

It's the last step before you're like riding a tricycle. You know, you see those videos where it's like some college girl got like a Dewey and it's like in a Barbie Power wheels, going to class. Like after an Ultima.

[Abbas Wahab]

Step right up.

[Matt Farah]

That's. Yeah. Up from an Ultima. I think people only move down from an Ultima.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah. I mean, it's like, dude, you just get pulled over in those like crazy. My little brother had one for a second. He got pulled over like the cops just go after Ultimas.

[Matt Farah]

Yes.

[Abbas Wahab]

Switch got to a rap. My mom's rap four. No problem.

[Matt Farah]

Guilty by the way.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah, guilty.

[Abbas Wahab]

We was in an Altima.

[Matt Farah]

I wish you guilty by Ultima association.

[Zach Klapman]

Well, because so many of them have found the ultimate.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, exactly. We just paused, but. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Guilty by Ultima.

[Matt Farah]

I rented one once and honestly, it made me want to drive into a crowd of people. It was one of the most miserable things I've ever done.

[Abbas Wahab]

If you rented a Versa, you would have just driven into Versa.

[Matt Farah]

We had a. We had a racing weekend in 10 Kentucky. And when you have an endurance racing weekend, the racing is on Saturday and Sunday. It's like two 12 hour races and they call that one race. They don't like to race overnight a lot. So you show up like Thursday night and there's practice and qualifying on Friday.

[Abbas Wahab]

Okay.

[Matt Farah]

So during practice you are allowed to drive cars on the racetrack that are not the race car. Right. But you're also allowed to drive the.

[Abbas Wahab]

Race car on the racetrack, enter Versa.

[Matt Farah]

So I had rented a Versa and they gave it to me. It was new.

[Abbas Wahab]

This is years ago.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The statute. Statute of limitations.

[Abbas Wahab]

Is it ironic?

[Matt Farah]

This was like 2017, man.

[Abbas Wahab]

Got it. Okay.

[Matt Farah]

And I probably ran about 100 laps in this Versa. Brand new, brakes gone, tires gone. CVT gearbox was like basically on fire.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah. Like out of the manufacturing.

[Matt Farah]

Oh, boy. I learned that track.

[Abbas Wahab]

Oh, my God.

[Matt Farah]

It was great. Yeah. I wrapped a bunch of random cars in days like that.

[Abbas Wahab]

I had an old Versa rental. I used to go to Tennessee all the time. It was just like annoyed the hell out of me just how much. When you press the gap between throttle and reality, something happening in response. The biggest I've ever seen turn like legitimate noise. Four to five seconds, like, and then some. A little flow.

[Matt Farah]

You think the biggest fuel to noise you ever ride. Like you ride motorcycles?

[Abbas Wahab]

I had motorcycle license. Yeah. Just like gixxer and like monster 696.

[Matt Farah]

Okay.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

You ever get a chance, try like a 1983 Harley you want to talk about and you're like, walk. Yeah, I could walk faster than this.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, those were all like the giant motors.

[Matt Farah]

Enormous shaky ass cubic inch and just.

[Abbas Wahab]

Nothing went to the wheels.

[Matt Farah]

So slow.

[Abbas Wahab]

Oh, slow sounded badass, though. They kept you alive.

[Matt Farah]

They go fast now. They did not keep you alive. A lot of people die on them things.

[Zach Klapman]

You're kept alive because they broke down a lot. Yeah, Old Harleys are not known for being that reliable.

[Abbas Wahab]

That's why Range Rover drivers are quite, you know, safe and healthy. Range Rover drivers, you know, just pull.

[Zach Klapman]

Off to the side of the highway all the time.

[Matt Farah]

Sir, are you in a safe place?

[Abbas Wahab]

Yes, yes, Yes, I am.

[Matt Farah]

We learned, though, if you ever have to make that call, you break down, you in a safe place, you got to say, no. They show up.

[Abbas Wahab]

Oh, good call, dude.

[Matt Farah]

We, Zach and I broke down in a. In a very expensive, rare, 80s modified Ferrari in the middle of an intersection. And I called and I said, I'm not in a safe place. And a truck was there in like three and a half seconds, just drifting around.

[Abbas Wahab]

He was going to do 17 errands. If he said ready, he was ready.

[Matt Farah]

To go in the parking lot.

[Zach Klapman]

He was going to go to court. But he's like, oh, no, I got to pick this person first.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, that's so. Dude, you know, a lot of these old cars you guys. You guys are driving, which. That garage is crazy. That is like a kid's dad is like. Again, I'm referencing Simpsons because I grew up on. I love it when Bart gets like the. The key to that candy store, the toy store. That's. That. That is just crazy in there. And they all probably break down a lot. All these antique ones when you. When you kind of like cruising them like, you. You gotta kind of.

[Matt Farah]

We don't get a lot of calls that cars, like, we don't get calls from people whose cars are stranded. Yeah, no. You'd think it would be more, but it's not really. Cars need to go to the shop all the time, but it's rarely something that is where you're stranded on the side of the road. Most cars, like, a lot of the cars, like, even if they have a problem, like, it won't be a catastrophic one.

[Abbas Wahab]

Okay. It'll be like a tow or you can just handle it right then and there.

[Matt Farah]

Well, I mean, I don't know.

[Zach Klapman]

Old cars will start letting you know they're having a problem, but they'll work. It's really hard to kill them.

[Matt Farah]

It'll be Something the idle will like.

[Abbas Wahab]

Something really rough when you gotta keep it going.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, yeah, you know, whatever. Book it back and you'll, you can drive it to the shop.

[Abbas Wahab]

Got it.

[Matt Farah]

You know, like that kind of stuff.

[Zach Klapman]

My car in high school would start and run on three cylinders and then 10 minutes later would.

[Matt Farah]

Out of eight. It was an eight.

[Abbas Wahab]

I'm like, no, just wait.

[Zach Klapman]

So it's like. It would like that's catastrophic in most car, new cars. But you just go out, just wait a minute. And it'll kind of. It'll get its bearings, it'll warm up a little bit.

[Matt Farah]

Did Thaddeus tell you that he just discovered his BMW? My friend Thaddeus has an E36 BMW with an S54 engine.

[Abbas Wahab]

With the later more powerful twin turbo.

[Matt Farah]

No, no, it's the one out of the E46M3 in the E36M3. So it's like an extra 100 horsepower. Like it's a, it's a lot faster. He was, we went up the mountain today. He was flying down big to Hunga. I could not believe James Dean style. Couldn't believe his pace. I was behind him in the GTS mobbing. Anyway, he just found out his car was running on five cylinders. He had someone.

[Zach Klapman]

I told him that weeks ago.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, yeah, it was running on weeks ago.

[Zach Klapman]

Cuz I drove it and cuz my car did that at some point I was like, I don't think this thing's running right. And he was like, no. I sent a video to a guy, he said it's okay. All right.

[Abbas Wahab]

A video.

[Zach Klapman]

He literally did that. All right.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. So it was running on five, now it's running on six. It's going very fast.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah, think cucks.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, it was, it's, it's a real, it's a sleeper. It was very, very, very quick. Oh, it has a short gear also. Yeah, yeah, that'll do it. Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

In New York I always see, because the finance guys love the 911s, I always see the old like whale tail turbos. Yeah, just a guy just texting on the side and then the, the tow truck is backing up. Always those whale tail ones. It's always like just waiting.

[Matt Farah]

That's a bummer. Do you have a car in New York?

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, it's a little Golf VW Golf.

[Matt Farah]

Oh yeah. Good cars.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, it's a great car. You know, street park, street park every day sometimes hell on earth. Right?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

Because you go, you see your building and you're like okay. On this street. No, not the street, the next street over. Suddenly you're like looping three, four over.

[Matt Farah]

Stress. That would drive me nuts not knowing where to park my car at home. I could do it.

[Zach Klapman]

It was terrible.

[Abbas Wahab]

But they want 500 for the parking spot.

[Matt Farah]

I understand. I, I would not be able to buy a car until do that.

[Abbas Wahab]

I know, I know. I, I mean, I brought it from Canada with, when I moved. I'm like, I have to have a car.

[Matt Farah]

Sure.

[Abbas Wahab]

But I told them, I'm like, hey, you know, 300.

[Matt Farah]

And how often do you use it though? You do?

[Abbas Wahab]

I drive every day. You drive to gigs after nine, after congestion pricing. Boy, I go into the city. I love crossing into the city with my car and like ripping around in New York City with a car.

[Matt Farah]

It's a real unique type of driving. It's not for everybody.

[Abbas Wahab]

It's chaotic.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

It's like people use the shoulder. It's like, it's like water flowing. It will go through the path of least resistance and I love it.

[Matt Farah]

How does it compare to the Sudan?

[Abbas Wahab]

Well, that's literally, that's like you have experience. Yeah. I'm like, dude, it's like, it's African driving. Where it's like I say in New York, if a red light doesn't have a red light camera, it's just a yield sign.

[Zach Klapman]

Oh my God.

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[Abbas Wahab]

At a red light and it just went red for you. That's when they go. They don't wait for it to go green. When they see it's red for you, it's green for me. I don't. So it's like, you gotta kind of be aware of all this stuff.

[Zach Klapman]

Like, F1 drivers, they're just watching those lights and, like, yellow.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Like, I swear I've been. I've been in New York City cabs where I was like, do you want to do a cannonball right now? Because, like, you are obviously ready for it. Like, let's fucking go.

[Abbas Wahab]

And you will cut lights with cops? Yellows. Yeah. Like, I remember, like, right when I moved there, I'm like, oh, no. I saw a cop booking it behind me as I was cutting a yellow.

[Matt Farah]

I'm like, oh, fuck.

[Abbas Wahab]

And then he books it past me and whips in front of me, and.

[Matt Farah]

I'm like, oh, shit, you got it. Sometimes, like, I got back in the day, I got pulled over on the Henry Hudson Parkway by a fake taxi. Okay, there was a cop.

[Abbas Wahab]

Okay.

[Matt Farah]

But it was just. It was a Yellow cab. But it was. It was. It was two cops.

[Abbas Wahab]

Like you ran a light or.

[Matt Farah]

No, no, I was speeding. Me and my. Me and my friend were fucking mobbing up the Henry Hudson. I got arrested for street race.

[Abbas Wahab]

Holy shit. Oh, you're doing like 40, 50 over.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, we were going fast. Yeah, we were fast, but we weren't actually racing. We were just two friends going fast. But what they saw as we passed their yellow cab, it looked like a race. If you weren't. Didn't know what you're doing. My shit got impounded. I went to jail.

[Abbas Wahab]

Oh, so you have a badass. What's called those? What are the photos called?

[Matt Farah]

Shot.

[Abbas Wahab]

You got one of those? Yeah, but Pablo Escobar stuff.

[Matt Farah]

What? So I wish I could have got a copy of it. I wonder if there was one somewhere that we took one.

[Abbas Wahab]

Did you. Gotta get that framed in here.

[Matt Farah]

No, what happened was this. I mean, I've told the story before, but what's great was they impounded my car.

[Abbas Wahab]

What was it?

[Matt Farah]

It was a John Cooper Works Mini. Oh, 2006. It was. There's no car on the planet faster up the Henry Hudson Parkway than a fucking juiced up Mini at the uk. Flags on the side mirrors, Italian Job every day. It was great. No, it was gray and black. It was subtle. Until I did the art. Turned into an art car and then got crazy.

[Abbas Wahab]

Edward Martin goatee.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, yeah, it was nuts. But I was. I sat in jail for like two nights and then, yeah, it sucked. And then I got a great lawyer. My car was stuck in impound. They won't let it out until your trial. They impact the whole time. So while it was there, I had a toll tag. Easy pass.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, easy pass.

[Matt Farah]

Someone at the impound stole the E Z pass out of my car and was commuting in it. So while I'm awaiting trial, I get a bill.

[Abbas Wahab]

It's like three levels of fucking. It's like exponential.

[Matt Farah]

So we get a bill, I show it to my lawyer, they subpoena the footage, and they have this fucking lady from the impound.

[Abbas Wahab]

From the impound? Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Commuting to work in her own car with my toll charges.

[Abbas Wahab]

Right, I was going to say that.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. So the finger, the fingerprints, they're supposed to have been gone because it was all bullshit, but. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but like I was in like you people. Like, dude, in the Tombs in New York, people snuck fucking weed and knives into the tomb. So these guys were getting mad because I didn't give him a match to light. To light a Joint in the jail cells. Get the out of here. A match.

[Abbas Wahab]

This crazy sounds like just crazy down there. The outsiders like this is.

[Matt Farah]

So many people are down there for we and shit. I was like, oh boy.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, yeah. Growing up in Canada, it was always like if I saw a cop behind me, if I saw a Crown Vic. Depending on where you are, the cops have different cars, right. If you see a Crown Vic, you know the lights. Yeah, it could be a Taurus, it could be a Charger.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

It could be a Explorer, Explorer, Expedition.

[Matt Farah]

Depending on certain jurisdictions.

[Abbas Wahab]

If I see it and it's in good shape, I'm like, oh, that's a cop. If one headlight is out, I'm like, oh, I can't be a cop.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, right, yeah, yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

In New York. That's not the case in New York. These NYPD cars are more fucked up than your car. You can't bro, both the lights gone, nothing in the middle. They'll pull you over.

[Matt Farah]

And what city do you think has the shit? I think Philly. I think Baltimore, probably. Baltimore, Philly. Philly gets cars used from New York City. You know, all the cabs in Philly, I went to school there were ex New York. When they were done with them in.

[Abbas Wahab]

New York, they send them meteors on the sides falling apart.

[Matt Farah]

Not a bushing in the fleet. Dude. On that Ben Franklin ass. Cobblestones.

[Abbas Wahab]

Oh my God. Just like driving in Iraq. Baghdad. Baghdad in 03, baby.

[Matt Farah]

Dude. Oh, you ever like walk around the Independence Hall? The cobblestones that they were using from the 1700s, them shits is so hard.

[Zach Klapman]

It's like walking on half a baseball.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

Like this isn't good for any.

[Matt Farah]

Or if you go. I mean, I don't want to be like elitist and shit, but if you go to like Rome or somewhere, like in Italy, like old, like, you know, old ancient place.

[Abbas Wahab]

Matt, you got a thousand of the most expensive cars in the world stacked five stories high.

[Matt Farah]

Yes. You're like, I don't want to Rome. They're not all mine.

[Abbas Wahab]

The cars are all mine.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, Trying to be inclusive. Go to Rome or Greece, those you're. You got to bring some shoes that have like air suspension in them and ankle support.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, I think the Cobblestone. Cuz back in the day there's horse and buggies. The wheels were so big that they probably. They hid a little bit of like probably, you know What I mean?

[Zach Klapman]

50 inch diameter.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

They all probably like playing them.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, exactly. So you're like, this is. We're moving.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, yeah. It's all small. We have to, like, go with the flow. Like when you're riding a motorcycle. Motorcycle on the 405, the shit's moving around.

[Abbas Wahab]

Oh, man, the traffic here, I can't. I. I don't know if. I don't know how people can live here, man. I get it, but motorcycles, dude. Oh. A lane split is allowed in California.

[Matt Farah]

My Vespa keeps me sane. You should try it.

[Abbas Wahab]

The Vespas, how do they compare with the Honda of, like, comparable Honda Vespa style ones? Honda engine.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, no, Piaggio makes the engines for a bunch of brands of scooters. So there's Italian, huh? It's Italian, yeah. But there's, like. There's a lot of scooters, including ones from other countries, that use the Piaggio scooter motors in them.

[Abbas Wahab]

And they're like. It's like a bulletproof motor.

[Matt Farah]

They're solid. Yeah, they're solid. It's not like I've owned Italian cars.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah. In my mind, I'm like.

[Matt Farah]

It's not like. No, no. Vespa's not like, Italian.

[Abbas Wahab]

Okay, got it.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

No, it's.

[Matt Farah]

They're Italian in terms of the fact that they're pretty and they're more expensive than the Japanese.

[Abbas Wahab]

Stuff.

[Matt Farah]

Stuff.

[Abbas Wahab]

Got it.

[Matt Farah]

I had a Yamaha for a while, and then I went to a Vespa. And I think the. The quality is actually better with the Vespa. It was more expensive, but it is nicer.

[Abbas Wahab]

Really?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. And they have really good residual values.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, exactly. That's what it is.

[Matt Farah]

Ladies like them.

[Abbas Wahab]

You like. You look at like a.031 in New York. Because I'm, like, already looking at them because. Yeah, this would be the ultimate way.

[Matt Farah]

They're expensive new, but, like, if you're looking at a one, a 150 or one of those. Most people are 150. They. They go down to, like, three grand and then they stay there for 20 years. So you buy a used one for three grand, you put 2,000 miles on it, you sell it for three grand. If you want a 300, which is what I have.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

I love my 300 miles an hour. 26.

[Zach Klapman]

You can. I've done that once.

[Abbas Wahab]

But you gotta lean back, though, right? Yeah, yeah.

[Matt Farah]

I'm fat, so I need it.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

So that one, same thing, but five grand, but, like, money in, money out.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Hell, yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

Not bad. Yeah, yeah. And it's like, you could just lock it right outside. I don't have to, you know, because.

[Matt Farah]

I'm thinking about Neo to Anything. You just like turn the key and lock it. You can lock the hand.

[Abbas Wahab]

Oh, straight up. Yeah, I, I'm under the impression that if it's. I guess it would probably still be a couple hundred pounds though. So it's like.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, I know. It's. They're like £300.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

You could you.

[Abbas Wahab]

I'm thinking people come by in a, in a freaking Tacoma or whatever. Two guys, they do that in the uk.

[Zach Klapman]

I mean the videos.

[Abbas Wahab]

Bushwick, Brooklyn. Right. Yeah. It could have gentrified.

[Zach Klapman]

I would, I would change it to something.

[Matt Farah]

I mean like. Yeah, you get insurance.

[Abbas Wahab]

I know.

[Matt Farah]

Get insurance. It's. Insurance is so cheap on a motorcycle.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Like comp. Like regular insurance, like the basic insurance, $100 a year, comprehensive. Maybe it's 200 a year.

[Abbas Wahab]

Wow.

[Matt Farah]

It's not a lot. Yeah, motorcycles are cheap.

[Abbas Wahab]

I love America for the insurance rates though. In Canada, we're getting destroyed.

[Zach Klapman]

Well, the choice is we don't usually cover you.

[Abbas Wahab]

It's the same story over there. Okay.

[Zach Klapman]

That's not good.

[Abbas Wahab]

Unless you get like the big guys that charge the most and you're like, you go to the a, a budget one just to get a lower premium.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

And then when something happens, they're like, oh, you, you have a nine thousand dollar deductible, bro.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

Dude, is there armed forces insurance? Like, no, it's not.

[Abbas Wahab]

Like, it's not. Canada's not set up the way America is where it's like, in America, they incentivize you to be in the military. Everything is. Every time I'm in an airport in this country, they're like, thank you for all active service. We thank you for your service and welcome you to the Freedom Lounge. Like, you know what I mean? In Canada there's nothing that like, you like, I don't care what you do. Like, go to gate B4. Have a seat. I don't. Colonel, have a seat, Colonel. You know, they don't give a. There's no.

[Zach Klapman]

Peanuts aren't free.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, there's no.

[Matt Farah]

This says zone seven Sergeant.

[Abbas Wahab]

Once, Once you get a veteran, whatever. They'll give you some, some perks here and there, but not like America. Yeah, it's beautiful here, dude. I'll be on hold sometimes. And they're like, thank you for holding. If you're active service, press six.

[Matt Farah]

You're like, what? We think we take bad care service members here.

[Abbas Wahab]

It's more of like after the fact.

[Matt Farah]

Maybe it's just the way mental health and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, yeah, you do get to board First. Yeah, like you have totally untreated PTSD and are like a real problem to yourself and everyone around you.

[Abbas Wahab]

But you get a 45B real early though.

[Zach Klapman]

We might, we might also send you a conflict zone first, so, you know, you get to work first, you get to fight first.

[Abbas Wahab]

Dude, I looked in a Freedom Lounge recently because the door opened, the guy was in. Dude, they had like small lays and stuff. I. I heard the one guy complaining and so I don't think it's that nice in there.

[Matt Farah]

I don't think it's probably not that.

[Abbas Wahab]

I thought it was like massages and.

[Matt Farah]

Every now what's happening with the lounges is now everyone needs an upper lounge because the, the credit cards. Too many people into the lounges. So Delta then has. Now has the Delta Sky Club and the Delta One lounge. And the Delta One lounge is fire. It is.

[Zach Klapman]

It should be.

[Abbas Wahab]

Tell me about it, bro.

[Matt Farah]

Have you not been in it yet?

[Abbas Wahab]

No, sir. I've heard of it.

[Matt Farah]

Jfk, they got a bagel bar.

[Abbas Wahab]

That's sad.

[Matt Farah]

There's also massages. There's a rest sit down restaurant with service.

[Abbas Wahab]

I got that.

[Matt Farah]

You were in the Boston one, right?

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Was that one sick also?

[Zach Klapman]

It was like an amazing steak restaurant and the meal was free.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

And you just. It's like a real, real, real restaurant.

[Matt Farah]

The LA one is, is new and I really like the LA one. You enter separately. Like, you don't go through security. You go through.

[Abbas Wahab]

Literally.

[Matt Farah]

You literally. I mean, you do. You go through.

[Abbas Wahab]

You enter the terminal.

[Matt Farah]

You do not enter the terminal where other people enter the terminal. You enter the terminal at the baggage claim. You have a separate entrance.

[Abbas Wahab]

So you go to Arrivals.

[Matt Farah]

You go to Arrivals. You go in a separate Illuminati. This is almost unmarked door. If this celebrity, like handheld there because you can't find it until you know where it is. Yeah, yeah, it's at the end of Terminal 3. You go in, there is one check in person, like a butler. And then your own security. Just. Just you. It's just you. There's nobody else. And like three security guards that look bored. And then your elevator takes you straight into the Delta 1 lounge where there's.

[Abbas Wahab]

Like a fountain and a service share around.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah, yeah, but you like this with the sharks.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, there's someone on your knees just ready?

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, like. And now this is service.

[Matt Farah]

And then you have an exit from there straight into the terminal. You don't have to. Yeah, you don't interact with regular people until you are at the gate.

[Abbas Wahab]

This is like a Paid thing. This is not like a credit card. Like you have the.

[Matt Farah]

No, no, you. If you buy. If you get an international business class.

[Abbas Wahab]

Flight on Delta, you have access to this automatic.

[Matt Farah]

Oh, or New York to LA Business class. It's the only domestic flight. You can do it.

[Abbas Wahab]

New York to la?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. New York to LA or international on Delta, you do it.

[Zach Klapman]

So if Nissan picks you up and wants you to.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, it's not going to happen. It's not going to happen. I'm not going to hold my bre. I got a Chase credit card one time. Like when they first started laying in the Chase Lounge, whatever they were, that black credit card. And I remember I was like going to this lounge for a while and I realized everyone is just going to these lounges to take like one peaceful dump before the flight.

[Matt Farah]

Oh, dude.

[Abbas Wahab]

I was in the store. I remember I was in a stall in the lounge and seven guys in a row came in, stopped, washed their hands and left. I'm like, they all wanted to take a dump. Everyone is in here to just take a peaceful dump before this.

[Matt Farah]

Because the Delta One lounge bathroom is like a regular European public bathroom. Like it's not like a US public bathroom. It's better.

[Abbas Wahab]

So it's like a wash closet.

[Matt Farah]

Full. The full door closets. Nice couple hooks in there.

[Zach Klapman]

The theory in white noise.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, this is what we want.

[Zach Klapman]

People won't stay in this.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. They don't want to stay on the.

[Zach Klapman]

Toilet as long if you feel uncomfortable. So the door doesn't go to the floor. Because our nature is to feel uncomfortable being seen going to the bathroom. So it's like it gets you out of there.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, it's true.

[Zach Klapman]

They don't hang out.

[Matt Farah]

Hostel architecture.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, I was gonna say that's the word. I just learned about it.

[Matt Farah]

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[Abbas Wahab]

Subways. They got that all over the place. They got these little metal figurines and all these corners where like people are gonna lie down and sleep. I'm like, what the hell is all this stuff? My buddy's like, hostile architecture.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

Disguised as art.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, it's pretty.

[Abbas Wahab]

It is. Disguised as a pretty up. It is. But I'm like, yo, if that wasn't there, I'd be sitting right there. Though I will admit that this bag is heavy, you know, and wouldn't that be the one?

[Zach Klapman]

It would be nice for you.

[Abbas Wahab]

Well, if I sat there, someone would be living there, right?

[Matt Farah]

I don't know.

[Zach Klapman]

That's a. That's a giant topic in this.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah. I with him until he was pro hostile architecture. He lost me on that. Lost me on that.

[Matt Farah]

That. That goes. That could be on a T shirt.

[Zach Klapman]

Pro hostile society.

[Abbas Wahab]

We don't need that pro hostile architecture. That sounds very aggressive.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. In. In my nimby ass neighborhood. That's probably what happens. Yeah, there's. Yeah, there's. There's a. There was a beef.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, there's beef.

[Abbas Wahab]

No up. Sounds like it's still in the court or something.

[Matt Farah]

No, there's not actually the. The. My side one. So. The beef.

[Abbas Wahab]

Okay, let's go.

[Matt Farah]

The beef is over. You could take your signs down now. People, people. NIMBY ass science.

[Zach Klapman]

They'll keep them up. Never forget.

[Matt Farah]

They're going to keep. They do keep them up. They got Biden stickers on all their cars. That's sad.

[Abbas Wahab]

That's the thing.

[Matt Farah]

It's just a Sad. Yeah. To have a. To have a losing.

[Abbas Wahab]

How do you. How do you all feel about the tariff stuff? This is what I want.

[Matt Farah]

I'm ready. Yeah, I'm ready.

[Abbas Wahab]

You're like, baby. He's like, did you see the cars in there? I don't. They're already here. Right.

[Matt Farah]

I'm Ready to not buy anything for a while, aren't you?

[Abbas Wahab]

You have a hundred.

[Matt Farah]

You don't need anything?

[Abbas Wahab]

I don't need anything right now.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

But I just want to.

[Matt Farah]

Downsizing.

[Abbas Wahab]

Wait, are they like.

[Zach Klapman]

I think it's terrible what's happening.

[Abbas Wahab]

Wait, did they get paused? I'm like, every day I look classic.

[Matt Farah]

You have to. Before we talk about the tariffs, you have to say the date and time.

[Abbas Wahab]

You're right. Here's a newspaper. Here's today's newspaper.

[Matt Farah]

May 2nd. It's 1246.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, exactly.

[Zach Klapman]

We did a show about the tariffs on the 15th by the time it came out. And about a week after they came out, Trump announced he was pausing the tariffs on some car companies, but not all of them.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

And when we did the story, it was like, there are tariffs on every car.

[Abbas Wahab]

Car company.

[Zach Klapman]

So it literally changed in a week.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

So I don't think it's a great way to do business a couple times since.

[Matt Farah]

Why aren't you talking about the tariffs? And it's like, you know that like it's changing by the hour, but by the hour.

[Abbas Wahab]

Literally.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

Describe the shape of the lava as it's flowing. You know, just like it's changing.

[Abbas Wahab]

I was at the gym and it said, you know, the tariff started, then they got paused and the market like jumped. And it said on like CNN or whatever it goes, tariffs start and pause in quotations, exactly as planned. And I was like, dude, the tr. The government is like whenever I play pool, like no matter how that ball makes it in the hole, that plan, you know what I mean? Like it could bounce off the table.

[Matt Farah]

If you're planning to do like a dump and pump. Or is it pump and dump is the other way. It's the, it's the pump and dump.

[Abbas Wahab]

Is when you want to go up.

[Matt Farah]

Dump and pump.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah, that's a good point. It was the inverse directions.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Like if you, if you short it.

[Zach Klapman]

Then you're making money and then pump goes back up.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, I, I think it was, it.

[Zach Klapman]

Might not have been Trump coin was the pump dump. Right, but then, but then the clear one.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, but, but a front running the tariff announcements, I think is the inverse.

[Zach Klapman]

It would be dump and pump does.

[Matt Farah]

Sound right, but I think it would.

[Abbas Wahab]

I think the actual dump sounds like a, a, a two step sex technique.

[Matt Farah]

You know, I mean, pump, dump and pump.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, exactly. That's delta.

[Matt Farah]

And then the hand soap.

[Abbas Wahab]

Gotta get. That's, that's international business classic system ad.

[Zach Klapman]

Right there it is.

[Matt Farah]

I mean, but like how important Though is that last minute poo before like a 12 hour flight or something? It's extreme.

[Abbas Wahab]

Heavenly.

[Matt Farah]

Extremely crucial.

[Abbas Wahab]

Anyway, now I have a, the AMEX gold. And I go, they got the Amex platinum. I go, I go, hey, can I come in with gold? They go, no. I'm like, can I pay a thing to come in? They go, no. I'm like, I'm like, can I, I, can I be, can I go walk around and see it? The guy goes, okay, I'll give you a tour. I'm like, I was fucking around, man. I'm going to my game. We thought he was literally gonna walk me with my hands, like. And this is what privilege looks like. If you work a little harder, you can be here.

[Matt Farah]

Platinum is worth it.

[Abbas Wahab]

Is it?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, it's worth the 400 a year.

[Abbas Wahab]

It's 50 bucks more. The, the gold was 350.

[Matt Farah]

I'm pretty sure the platinum's worth it.

[Zach Klapman]

50 bucks for that dump?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. That's one. What's one? Great poo.

[Abbas Wahab]

Of course you do break it down.

[Matt Farah]

Kind of like point scam. Are you not, are you not running a point scam?

[Abbas Wahab]

I think I'm just collecting points. I don't know if it's a scam.

[Matt Farah]

Do you have, you have a real like, tight strategy when you travel.

[Abbas Wahab]

Like, stick to one airline type deal.

[Matt Farah]

Like one airline, like, you know, your suitcase, you, how you lay it out, your whole shit. Is that all? Like, are you.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm going like, I'm averaging like, you know, six to eight flights a month.

[Matt Farah]

Oh, yeah. So you got it.

[Abbas Wahab]

So like my bag is there? I, I, yeah, Like, it's not, it's not like the top left has my thing and the, it's not like that.

[Matt Farah]

But, but you got a process. Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

100. Yeah, but I'm at the point now that I, they tell you one airline and I like Delta, but sometimes it's like, man, I don't want to pay two, three times the price. Just.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, that's tough.

[Abbas Wahab]

One time I went Miami, I went with Frontier year. Huge mistake. I should just paid the money.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, that's.

[Abbas Wahab]

Ended up paying more in the end because they're that nightmare.

[Matt Farah]

I, I don't, I don't like to pay a lot more for. I'm loyal to Delta. I'll take layovers that I don't need.

[Abbas Wahab]

To take, though, to stick with Delta.

[Matt Farah]

Stick with Delta.

[Abbas Wahab]

You know what it is? Delta still feels like. Remember 10, 15 years ago when there was general respect when flying? Delta is still that when you're on a Delta flight, they come through headphone. Headphone. They still.

[Matt Farah]

That's how I actually do. Nobody else does that domestically.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, nobody else is doing that anymore.

[Matt Farah]

And if you have I'm diamond on Delta, if you have status, if you stuck to one airline for six, eight segments a month, you would be diamond in no time.

[Abbas Wahab]

I just.

[Matt Farah]

And if you got the Delta Amex, okay. That's important too. You got to get both. You would be diamond.

[Abbas Wahab]

But you're Delta Platinum.

[Matt Farah]

I'm diamond.

[Abbas Wahab]

No, no. Okay. No, you had the Amex platinum, which connected to Delta.

[Matt Farah]

No, you can. You can connect. This is so inside Bas.

[Zach Klapman]

This is very.

[Matt Farah]

You can connect the Delta, Delta, the Amex Platinum to your Delta account to do the same thing that the Amex Delta will do if you don't want to pay for Platinum.

[Abbas Wahab]

Got it. And then you get the maximum points.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

And then you're on your way.

[Matt Farah]

And then you just fucking rip it. And then you get upgrades everywhere.

[Zach Klapman]

Which is why we will teach you how to America.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, exactly.

[Matt Farah]

Teach me a lot of first class. And I get it. Yeah. And you have that. Yeah. It's what? Worth it. Trust me.

[Abbas Wahab]

So what's your technique for when the back of the plane is boarding and now you've already boarded? Are you a. Make eye contact with everyone as they come in? Are you a look down and pretend they're not coming in?

[Matt Farah]

I. No, no. I metaphorically look down by making eye contact.

[Abbas Wahab]

That's high level.

[Matt Farah]

No, I try not to do that. I try to. I just get. I just try to not have my shoulder bumped by a thousand people for puppies. If someone's got a puppy, I like to say hello. Look for kittens. I pray that someone sit next to me with a puppy or kitten.

[Abbas Wahab]

Never seen a cat on a flight. Seen a lot of dogs.

[Matt Farah]

Carriers. They're in carriers.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

If you. We could. If people like me are looking for cats, we will find them.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Do we have Patreon stuff? We got a lot of topics to talk about today. There's things happening in the news. Oh, wait, I saw. Other than sleeping in the ID buzz. Do you like it?

[Abbas Wahab]

Do I like it?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

Here's the. Is what I don't like. First of all, shout out to VW for hooking it up. Press car, all that, man. People like, makes them really happy. As you drive by in that car, they're all like, suddenly their hippie comes out. All these old. Anybody in a Kia Soul loves the ID buzz. I don't Know what it is. But every Kia Soul next to me has been driving with their phone out.

[Matt Farah]

Sure. And like, because here's why. People who have Kia souls had VW bugs. The 90s ones, the 90s and 2000s ones, they don't make them anymore. So they got a Kia Soul now. They're gonna go to this.

[Abbas Wahab]

They switched it up, huh? Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, that's that same person.

[Zach Klapman]

Well, we've all waited 15 years for this car, so we're just so happy to finally see it.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

The color is great white.

[Abbas Wahab]

The range. The range. I don't have a 91 kilowatt hour battery, I believe.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

And the range is like 240 miles, which to me seems light because I went to Sandy every. I went from here to San Diego and it's my first time having a electric car that I have to charge myself. Yeah, I've had them a bunch of times.

[Zach Klapman]

But says you should get up to. Nope, that's not their website. That's a different.

[Matt Farah]

Okay.

[Zach Klapman]

Different battery.

[Abbas Wahab]

Is that 240 at 150. So I go there and like right away you have 70 left now.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

So you do your thing and now it just becomes like, okay, now I got. Now I understand this range anxiety.

[Matt Farah]

Sure.

[Abbas Wahab]

Because you're like, okay, so now I got to go charge right away.

[Matt Farah]

It's a little bit of thought. Thought that's.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

Big. I mean, Mazda has a crossover that is same size battery pack, but gets 310 miles. But the buzz gets 234.

[Matt Farah]

It's a big V. Yeah, it is a big.

[Zach Klapman]

It's much bigger in person.

[Matt Farah]

To me.

[Abbas Wahab]

It seems like it should have a thousand.

[Matt Farah]

It's. Is this all wheel drive?

[Abbas Wahab]

I couldn't tell you.

[Matt Farah]

I don't know. I don't. I don't know, dude.

[Abbas Wahab]

It's available. I will say this because obviously the battery is super heavy and at the bottom. And it's mostly air.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

It is fun. It is fast. Fast. And it handles great.

[Matt Farah]

Dude.

[Abbas Wahab]

I'm ripping it into the.

[Zach Klapman]

They're quick. They're rear wheel drive, but there's an all wheel drive option, dual motor, and that only changes the range by three miles, which is shocking.

[Abbas Wahab]

I'm in the Pro S plus, so it's probably that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Matt Farah]

So basically how. How, like, how fast are you going on the highway? Allegedly?

[Abbas Wahab]

Oh, top speed is not good. On top speed. It's that like 30 to 100.

[Matt Farah]

No, I'm just saying for range, if you were going like over 70, you were probably going through battery faster.

[Abbas Wahab]

I'm going 80 miles an hour.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. You're going through battery way faster.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

The efficiency window of those things is it's.

[Matt Farah]

There's a real.

[Abbas Wahab]

I'm learning, you know, my first time having this thing, but it's like. Then I went and charged it at like 125 kilowatt hours. Fast one. It took an hour to charge from 10% to 100%.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

And it cost $56.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought electricity was supposed to be way cheaper. So now they told me San Diego is the most expensive electricity in the country.

[Matt Farah]

It could be.

[Abbas Wahab]

I don't know if that's just bullshit.

[Matt Farah]

So fast charging is not that cheap.

[Abbas Wahab]

Got it.

[Matt Farah]

So the way this would be effective would be if you had a house and are charging at home. Yeah, that is really cheap.

[Abbas Wahab]

Got it.

[Matt Farah]

You could charge the car for $15 or $20.

[Abbas Wahab]

Because at night. The low rate at night. Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

And slower. It's a level two, right. It goes like 8kW watt to 10kW.

[Abbas Wahab]

Takes like 10 hours.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Overnight. Right. And that's really cheap.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Fast charging is as much as gasoline in a lot of cases.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah. But it's.

[Matt Farah]

But it's. It's what you have to do if you need the charge there. So.

[Abbas Wahab]

I know I. You know, just because I was freaking sleeping in it, Right. I was like, I couldn't go plug it in tonight. I'll probably just plug it into one of these. My buddy's house. But. Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Did we plug it in for you here?

[Abbas Wahab]

We didn't.

[Zach Klapman]

The GTS was there. Oh, I should. I should have asked him to move it.

[Matt Farah]

We.

[Zach Klapman]

We could have charged you here.

[Abbas Wahab]

GTS is hybrid.

[Matt Farah]

It is, but it's not a plug in hybrid. It's the new 911 Hybrid.

[Abbas Wahab]

Oh, really?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, it's a small battery hybrid, sort of like the Corvette E ray or the McLaren Artura has.

[Abbas Wahab]

That's just to give like, initial launch speed.

[Matt Farah]

Torque fill. Yeah, it's to do torque fill and to do really fast. Start, stop, and to add torque at the bottom of the motor before the.

[Abbas Wahab]

Turbo really kicks in, it spools up.

[Matt Farah]

It works good, really fast. Yeah, yeah, it works good. Yeah, yeah. It's 530 horsepower. It goes like a.

[Abbas Wahab]

Are you like. Do you walk into a Porsche here in la, there's probably a couple Porsches and you're just like. You're a God in that or what?

[Matt Farah]

At what, the dealers. Yeah, it's not mine. It's a press car. Oh.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

I. I do own a Porsche, but.

[Abbas Wahab]

That is a press car guy.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

You.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah, we get a car every week.

[Matt Farah]

We get. Yeah, we get sometimes more than one.

[Abbas Wahab]

I see you're driving a lot of these. I didn't know if it was a press thing or if it's like a. Reviews. I guess that's the nature of a press thing.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, that's that. Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

So Doug Demaro. Demaro. He. That's all his stuff is like. Of course, for him, they're just like, take it. Talk about it, and generally. Hopefully be positive. That's the.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, I mean, that's the idea. These cars just like the one you're driving, there's fleets of them that are for people like us to borrow and review, and they don't really care if you're positive or negative about the car. If you're negative, you just have to be fair.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yes.

[Matt Farah]

Right. You can't be like, car's a piece of shit. You can be like. You could say, the steering is distant, it rides badly, and, you know, whatever. And that. Okay. They don't care.

[Abbas Wahab]

Got it. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

I want to know why you can't just say, I don't like it if you say, why don't you like it? Got it.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, but we criticize cars all the time.

[Abbas Wahab]

I got hooked up. I was in Austin. There was some girl, Scotty, who does like girls, girl car. She's a journalist, and she goes, oh, with your following, never rent a car. And she gave me all these soft intros to all these people.

[Matt Farah]

There you go.

[Abbas Wahab]

And I didn't know about this whole press network at the airports thing. And then I. They put me right into it. They started giving me these cars, and nobody was like, make a video. No. There was, like, no conversation. At any point, should I gas it up when I give it back to you guys?

[Matt Farah]

No.

[Abbas Wahab]

Do you need me to take a picture? What?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Nothing. Nothing.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

That's funny that there's no instruction given. Zero influence.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. I guess I've been doing it for so long that I've. It never occurred to me you would actually have no idea what to do. No idea.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, I filled it up with gas. The guy's like, oh, don't even guess it out.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah, you don't have to do that.

[Matt Farah]

I like to make sure it's got some. I might not leave it, like, dead empty. And if it's really dirty, I'll wash it. But other than that. Yeah, they come, we don't they pick it up here, drop it off here? Wow. Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

That's a good life.

[Matt Farah]

And now because we have the shop, we got the staff, I don't have to be here. So they'll. The staff will deal with it.

[Abbas Wahab]

What do you call this shop?

[Matt Farah]

West side Collector Car Storage. It's on the water. Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

It wasn't turned that way, though.

[Matt Farah]

Sorry.

[Abbas Wahab]

The other way.

[Matt Farah]

Man. It's. It's been a fucking insane, like, couple of weeks. There's a video. Well, there's a video of Jim Farley kind of like appearing to sort of suck up to the administration. That looks.

[Abbas Wahab]

Now, this is a stupid question.

[Matt Farah]

Predictable, but a little lame. Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

Is Jim Farley Chris Farley's brother?

[Matt Farah]

Cousin, CEO Ford.

[Abbas Wahab]

Oh, that's hilarious.

[Matt Farah]

You've seen a picture of him, right?

[Abbas Wahab]

No, they. They hit me. Ford hit me up to do a video with him.

[Matt Farah]

Really?

[Abbas Wahab]

Yes. Oh, because I did. You know that video that I have on there that said out getting out car guide?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. They tell me you can't. He's.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, dude, he's literally his cousin.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, he's literally.

[Abbas Wahab]

He looks like him.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. What a legend. Look at that neck.

[Abbas Wahab]

That's. That's. Dude, that's Chris Farley, baby. Cocaine neck.

[Matt Farah]

That is not a very flattering picture of Jim on the left there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, yeah. What do you. I mean, he was just. He just appeared to sort of suck up to the administration a little bit about tariffs, talking about how optimistic he was about the future of American manufacturing and things like that. It wasn't entirely. It wasn't directly suck up. Eat a Trump. It was just. Let's just say I was, like, a little disappointed with the vibe.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Versus not saying anything at all.

[Abbas Wahab]

Got it.

[Matt Farah]

Versus just going about his business as. As necessary. You know, I don't know.

[Abbas Wahab]

Apparently he drove one of those Chinese huge. Byd or Yang Yang. Yang Wang.

[Matt Farah]

He drove a couple. He's driven a couple Chinese cars.

[Abbas Wahab]

There was one called the Yang Yang or something like that. I don't know if it's made by byd, but it's like, they're very. They're like. They're Range Rover high. And he said that this is Yang Wang. Yeah, he said that. Apparently, in his words.

[Matt Farah]

Get that wrong. You're racist.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, you try.

[Matt Farah]

But, like, there's no way to not sound racist if you're just guessing. Hey, do you want China to win? Chinese names? Are you pro China? We're trying, man. But, like, I tried.

[Zach Klapman]

I Googled and I found, like, three different car companies.

[Abbas Wahab]

It just responded with, you're racist.

[Zach Klapman]

That's how it felt.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

But anyways, he drove it and he said, this is better than anything Ford is currently making. Yeah, watch. I'm like. Which I respected him to say that because a lot of people are like, yeah, we, you know, we make good stuff too. And it's like, you're not gonna progress and evolve if you just go, our shit's the best.

[Matt Farah]

Driving competitive vehicles is a thing that like executives have done traditionally. They drive each other's cars and like, see what people are doing. But there's been lack of a better metaphor right now. Sort of a wall around China's products for a while and whether through like. Well, the Chinese companies were building garbage for a while until EVs and they basically just passed us.

[Abbas Wahab]

What do you think is gonna be in 10 years? Do you think there's gonna be a lot of Chinese cars in this country or are they gonna keep blocking them?

[Zach Klapman]

I think they'll keep blocking them.

[Matt Farah]

I think they'll keep blocking them.

[Zach Klapman]

I think they have to because they'll just. I think it would really.

[Abbas Wahab]

In a meritocracy, it would just be destructive.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, I think, Yeah. I mean, to call it if you were just. If it was purely about.

[Abbas Wahab]

If it was open market, like free.

[Matt Farah]

Market, like Chinese, like labor costs and labor practices are so, like, bad.

[Abbas Wahab]

That's kind of like you can't make.

[Matt Farah]

The cars that cheap.

[Zach Klapman]

I mean, almost no one can beat that base point. I mean, that's why they manufacture cars in Mexico or can. Like it's cheaper than the United States. But no one can make them as cheaply as China, as. As well and as cheaply. I think with EV specific, with anything. I mean, you know, Chinese, well, they've.

[Abbas Wahab]

Had a lot internal combustion. There was a lot of problems.

[Matt Farah]

There's never been a great internal combustion Chinese car. And I think they've pretty much abandoned the idea of developing them. I just don't think that. True.

[Abbas Wahab]

I think they have. The numbers are so high that they can't go fossil fuel. That's why they went all in with EV there.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, I mean, they're just, they're. They're. Smog problem over there was like LA 80s and you know, pretty much, you know, all but banning the sale of new gas cars is like a good way to fix that problem. Like local air quality problem. Like. Yeah, that's a good way to fix that. You know, especially because they were running a lot of diesels and shit over there. They were really the air was nasty. And I mean it was nasty fucking in LA too.

[Abbas Wahab]

By the way, on that note of diesel, these old VW hippie vans used to be diesels, right?

[Zach Klapman]

Usually small tiny gas engines.

[Matt Farah]

Gas air cooled, slow gas. They sounded kind of like diesels because they're fucking air cooled. Which is like clappity a little bit. Yeah, yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

I thought there were diesels. In my mind I was like these things because I had a diesel Golf for a while and diesel Jetta, but I'm like, you can get 6, 700 miles to the tank. And I'm like, that's what a van like this should have. Well, a 600, 500 mile range. I'm shocked. That's too far.

[Matt Farah]

We should probably clarify they in other markets, like if we're talking about the fucking in the Sudan and shit or in South America. I think there were diesel variants. I think in America, gas only for sure, gas only.

[Zach Klapman]

Was there a Diesel 82 van?

[Matt Farah]

Oh, Vanagon. So there were Vanagons, not, not type twos, not like early buses, like the 80s ones were Cayman diesels.

[Abbas Wahab]

Got it. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So because it just seems like a range type of vehicle. Right.

[Zach Klapman]

But when they travel, when the first VW bus came out, you know, 60s.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

Diesel tech back then was like loud, dirty, clattery. I mean it was not associated the way it is now with your TDIs. Yeah, they smoothed it out a lot. A lot. But this part of why Diesel had such a stigma in America up until I'd say like the 90s, honestly, was that they used to be loud, smelly, dirty things and people didn't like that. Ironically though, the old Volkswagen engine in the 60s was also loud, smelly, kind of dirty and broke a lot.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, it matched the hippie energy really good.

[Zach Klapman]

But Volkswagen had already put all this money into developing that, you know, flat four engine, so. Yeah, well, you can just put this in a bus. I mean it's a Beetle with a backpack back on, you know, dragging a duffel bag. It's the same like a bed cover.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

So they just throw it in there and you can't go over 40 miles per hour.

[Matt Farah]

Those were massively more efficient than what Americans. This is like 50s iron and like 60s big V8 and like, oh, here's this like gets like 40 miles a gallon.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Costs nothing and holds a lot of, you know.

[Zach Klapman]

That's right.

[Abbas Wahab]

But it looks like a old buses.

[Matt Farah]

The Vanagon was the.

[Zach Klapman]

I think that was the first.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, I never really liked Vanagans.

[Zach Klapman]

But they are worth so much money.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

I don't get it. My friend made a lot of money repairing them and he's like, that one's worth $85,000. And I go, what the are you talking about? He goes, well, it's a synchro. It's got four wheel drive.

[Matt Farah]

I go, so does a Crosstrek dude. So does my delica. They're like $18,000.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah, yeah. People went nuts for the van.

[Abbas Wahab]

Fluffy Iglesias, he's got. He loves. He collects like a thousand.

[Matt Farah]

He's got a lot of them.

[Zach Klapman]

We gotta meet him.

[Abbas Wahab]

Y'all holding any of his cars?

[Matt Farah]

No, he's got. He's got his own.

[Abbas Wahab]

He's got a fortune.

[Matt Farah]

When you get to. Yeah. When you get beyond the Leno level. Well, that's even. That's Leno, Iglesias, Seinfeld, those are like, that's the top tier. If you get more than like 10 or 15 cars, it might make sense to start thinking about your own building versus keeping your cars here. Yeah, yeah. Fluffy's got a big.

[Abbas Wahab]

He loves them.

[Zach Klapman]

I mean, and it's decorated.

[Matt Farah]

It's probably got 30, 40 cars in it. And he's got. It's big. Yeah. Big decoration.

[Abbas Wahab]

Loves VW bus.

[Matt Farah]

And Leno's place is obviously insane.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

It's a really complex blue bug on the left.

[Abbas Wahab]

On the left. That's nice, huh?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

It's got that old Corvette paint kind of doesn't it?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

Doesn't look like this.

[Matt Farah]

If you go to east la.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, dude.

[Matt Farah]

These guys, the. The Mexican guys in East LA do the coolest, coolest Volkswagen.

[Abbas Wahab]

Oh, really?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. These guys do not around like air ride or like.

[Abbas Wahab]

You mean like colored, like paint job.

[Matt Farah]

Some of it is paint jobs. Some of it is restoration. Some of it is like super cholo stuff. Some of it is like, like they put bags or they make them into low riders, like crazy stuff. Baja race cars.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

They just like the fabrication work that some of them guys do. Crazy stuff. Yeah. And the Pomona swap meet on the east side of la.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Is a huge Volkswagen. Any part you could imagine. Yeah. Whoa.

[Abbas Wahab]

That's.

[Matt Farah]

Fluffy's building is pretty sweet and nice. You got the big ass fans on the top. I love a big ass fan.

[Abbas Wahab]

That brand of big ass fans.

[Matt Farah]

The black Beetle behind the blue one there on the right.

[Abbas Wahab]

That's nice.

[Matt Farah]

Is a really rare early car. Yeah, I know that car. It's a very. The original, huh?

[Abbas Wahab]

It might be the original.

[Matt Farah]

Like it's like from the 40s. Yeah. First year. It's a first year car. Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

Really rare car.

[Zach Klapman]

If you said that this was a Volkswagen museum, people go, oh, okay.

[Abbas Wahab]

Of course.

[Zach Klapman]

Like, it looks.

[Matt Farah]

Basically is.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah. With a big logo. And this is like a picture of a factory. Might be.

[Matt Farah]

Volkswagen 2, 3, 4, 5. I can see at least five that are either 21 or 23 windows, which are really expensive.

[Zach Klapman]

There's like 12 vans here.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. And there's more in the back. Right. There's a bunch of. We should get a hold of that guy. You know who knows him? Larry. Larry Castillo. Really knows him.

[Zach Klapman]

Oh, we should make a legend intro. We'll drive down there and bring our Sova Badass.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, yeah. Shout out to them. Do we got anything on the Patreon today?

[Zach Klapman]

We do have questions on the Patreon. Do you want to talk about Mustang and Tesla? You want to save those?

[Matt Farah]

Oh, oh, we can. Have you seen the Mustang GTD bus?

[Abbas Wahab]

I have not. Ford Mustang GT owning record at 652 is crazy.

[Matt Farah]

652 on the Nurburgring for this Mustang GTD, this thing. So I spoke to a collector recently at the event we were at in Charlotte. Zach and I went to a 1010 motor club who said he was very concerned about his GTD order because what he was told originally would be about a $300,000 car with the options and the track arrow kit and all the things. You get the final number started with a six.

[Abbas Wahab]

Jesus Christ.

[Matt Farah]

Whoa.

[Abbas Wahab]

Lamborghini.

[Zach Klapman]

What stereo did he change?

[Matt Farah]

And I'm like, shit, I might be tapped out at that.

[Abbas Wahab]

Are there like 100 made?

[Matt Farah]

I don't think it is necessarily a limited number. I think it's just very expensive.

[Abbas Wahab]

Holy shit.

[Zach Klapman]

That's.

[Abbas Wahab]

That's crazy.

[Matt Farah]

I think they're only capable of building so many because Multimatic in Canada is actually going to be building them. Multimatic, it's a company that basically builds race cars and supercars. So they built the last Ford gt. They build a lot of, like, Le Mans cars and stuff like that. That prototype cars.

[Abbas Wahab]

They do like all carbon fiber in house and they make a real lightweight.

[Matt Farah]

Car engineering shit and pimp it up. They're building this. They've worked with Ford on a bunch of different stuff.

[Zach Klapman]

The problem with price is it was not as fast around the Nurugaring as the Porsche GT3 RS.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

Even with this new time, which it was five and a half seconds quicker than the old time, it's three seconds.

[Matt Farah]

Behind the GT3 RS.

[Zach Klapman]

And I'm not saying that they're different cars, they have different flavors. But when you're doubling the price price to 6, and that's now costing twice as much as MSRP of an actual GT3RS. Like that.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

Is a hard pill to swallow, but.

[Abbas Wahab]

Isn'T GT3RS also with the premium and like actually getting one, it's like 4 or 500,000.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Probably actually get actual transaction prices will probably be very similar. Yeah, you're not wrong there at all.

[Zach Klapman]

This is what it looks like. It looks sick, dude.

[Abbas Wahab]

It looks like four cars. I'm like, my system is seeing four things at once. You know, a little bit of a gtr.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. There's a lot happening, and if you were to stand next to it, it is enormous. It's like the size of a Tahoe, this car. Yeah. Because the green traction wheel the size of a regular Mustang. The rest of it's just. That's around. It is just bigger. And that wing hangs like 18 inches off the back of the car.

[Abbas Wahab]

So it's downforce, like craziness.

[Matt Farah]

Big front splitter. It's just a huge thing.

[Abbas Wahab]

Holy shit. Yeah, it looks like a race car.

[Zach Klapman]

It says it's at least 190 inches long.

[Matt Farah]

So the front tires of this GTD 325.

[Abbas Wahab]

Holy shit.

[Matt Farah]

I was just in.

[Abbas Wahab]

How do those turns?

[Matt Farah]

Well, I was just in Palm Springs two days ago for the Aston Vantage Roadster launch. The rear tires of the Vantage Roadster, which is 650 horsepower, are 325s. These are the same. This has the same tires in the front.

[Abbas Wahab]

What's the rears on this?

[Matt Farah]

Like 345s. Oh.

[Abbas Wahab]

So it's almost a squared stance.

[Matt Farah]

With Mustangs, you want to run pretty close to a square stance. It's interesting that that's what they're doing here. That's usually how you make a Mustang. Go around corners.

[Zach Klapman]

Big engine up front.

[Abbas Wahab]

I've never even heard of 320 in the front.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, no, I don't think anyone's ever done it.

[Abbas Wahab]

How do those turn?

[Matt Farah]

It's probably going to be Darty as.

[Zach Klapman]

A motherfucker, that power steering pump. I hope they upgraded it. Yeah, from the 350s and whatnot.

[Matt Farah]

Wow. Yeah. So. Oh, TV turned off. What happened there?

[Zach Klapman]

Oh, it's back.

[Matt Farah]

Hey, I moved my foot. It's okay. I mean, it is 3 seconds off a GT3RS, but considering the weight of this thing.

[Zach Klapman]

True.

[Matt Farah]

That's still pretty impressive.

[Zach Klapman]

And it's under seven minutes. I mean, this is what pure gasoline. Four production cars wrecked times of all time.

[Matt Farah]

The RS Manthei, which I think are they calling that production now?

[Abbas Wahab]

Manthey, That's a stretch.

[Zach Klapman]

It might be an aero kit that.

[Matt Farah]

The racing team developed and then Porsche bought the racing team. And so now. Yeah, now you can get the aero kit through a dealer. So they're calling that factory.

[Abbas Wahab]

Got it. Okay.

[Matt Farah]

I'll give it to you.

[Abbas Wahab]

Is the GTD can. Is it on the website or you have to go to these side people you're talking about.

[Matt Farah]

You can't. No, no. You Multimatic physically builds the car, but you buy it from a Ford dealer.

[Abbas Wahab]

Got it. Did you buy a GT and take it to them? Or you go. They manage the Multimatic relationship.

[Matt Farah]

That's not started with the gt. These are built from the ground up.

[Abbas Wahab]

Got it.

[Matt Farah]

That's. That's a whole car, not a modified car.

[Abbas Wahab]

You just not like a Shelby.

[Matt Farah]

No.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

No. And Shelby, Even Shelby has two things. Shelby has the 350 and the 500, which are Ford cars developed by Ford, badged to Shelby. And then Shelby American has. You bring them a Mustang GT bolt on a modified. Those are not as good.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, I mean, I read a bunch of them. People are like a lot of bolt on parts. They're still heavy and blah, blah, blah. But this is.

[Matt Farah]

This is a work of art factory car. It's basically their, you know, IMSA car as a road car.

[Abbas Wahab]

That spoiler's crazy how it's on, like the C pillar or whatever. I haven't seen that before.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. And there's also no trunk, by the way, because the exhaust goes right through where the trunk would be. It's a race car. Yeah, for sure.

[Abbas Wahab]

Probably like a cage on the inside or.

[Matt Farah]

I don't think the version that people will be buying will have a cage on it. I'm sure there'll be some track version that comes out that'll have a cage.

[Abbas Wahab]

Six hundred grand, though, for a full Ford.

[Matt Farah]

You know, don't necessarily hold me. Right. This is a conversation I had with one collector. Okay. But. But that was. It was. He was pretty, like, yeah, this is a. This is a thing.

[Zach Klapman]

But also, I think, like this, the last gen, sorry, the second gen, 4gt to me is worth all the money now. And the money back then, like. But it was. Back then, it was like, oh, 150 grand for a Ford. But if it. It looks that good and it's that exciting and it's that cool, like, then just judge it on that merit, you know, so the price should reflect that.

[Abbas Wahab]

I used to have a poster of the GT90. When I was a kid. That's a car. You don't really hear about or see one.

[Matt Farah]

Well, there's only one.

[Abbas Wahab]

Looks like there's only one.

[Matt Farah]

There's one. It was a concept car, but it was a running concept car. And the person who owns it has a pretty active Instagram and they do take it out to shows once in a while.

[Abbas Wahab]

Really?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

It looks like a NASA project.

[Matt Farah]

I've seen it on Instagram. It's really cool. Jamal knew the guy.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

This is an article from September 2024. Whatever happened to the Ford GT90? I bet this article will tell us.

[Zach Klapman]

Oh, my God. So many ads.

[Matt Farah]

Oh, Jesus. Oh, my God. This is an unreliable.

[Abbas Wahab]

The styling I've never seen.

[Matt Farah]

Just scroll down. Do we have a. This. This is a horrible. That interior is amazing.

[Abbas Wahab]

It looks like a shifter Zonda or like a tbr.

[Matt Farah]

It's actually pretty cool. If you said that was a Zonda, it would. It would work.

[Abbas Wahab]

A Dodge Intrepid, though. That's like. That is so bad. Like, look at that steering wheel.

[Matt Farah]

It's so 90s Ford. Yeah. Okay, where is it? Keep going. Where is it? Now?

[Abbas Wahab]

That rear end's pretty cool.

[Matt Farah]

Briefly listed by RM oh. On display at the Hack Motorsport Museum in Oklahoma.

[Abbas Wahab]

Wow.

[Matt Farah]

All right. I saw it, like, I saw a video of it, like, at some dude's house. Like, it was in the guy's garage. Like, so it's maybe on loan to.

[Zach Klapman]

The museum, but they had this car, I think it was early Gran Turismo or a different racing game. And it was the fastest thing in the game. And it was almost undrivable because the straight line speed was so it was.

[Matt Farah]

A quad turbo V12. So it was a. It was actually a vanquish engine.

[Zach Klapman]

720 horsepower with four turbos on it.

[Matt Farah]

They could probably get that Bugatti style. Yeah, yeah. In 95, Ford had a concept called the Indigo. I don't know if you ever saw it. Never heard of this. Google it. It's really cool looking. And for this concept, they developed the V12, which was 2 Ford Contour 3 liter V6s stuck together at the crank, at the crank to make a V12 that became Aston Martin's V12, which they still use today.

[Abbas Wahab]

It's just two V6s at the crank.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

Really?

[Matt Farah]

It literally doubled the displacement and it doubled the horsepower of each of the V6s. And so. But.

[Abbas Wahab]

And I guess it's balanced right, because it's just too really smooth.

[Matt Farah]

But they put it in this thing first. Which is called Ford Indigo, which is real crazy looking.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Matt Farah]

With a fling. And I actually. I used to love this thing when I was a kid. I thought this was the shit. This was a runner.

[Abbas Wahab]

It reminds me of the Prowler. Huh. It's like a futuristic Prowler. I think this the front's like Tron.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Before the Prowler, this was like early 90s maybe.

[Zach Klapman]

Well, but Chip drew the Prowler kind of in like 92, 91, so similar time.

[Matt Farah]

Is there an engine shot somewhere of this thing? It looked the V12 in the back.

[Abbas Wahab]

That looks like a Batmobile.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, it looks crazy, right?

[Abbas Wahab]

That's so nice. This is in the 90s.

[Matt Farah]

Someone call Philip Seraphim. The same steering wheel.

[Abbas Wahab]

I was gonna say the steering.

[Matt Farah]

Someone call Philip Seraphim and make him get this. Buy this and get this to run.

[Abbas Wahab]

Oh, you could tell by the suits it was the 90s.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Let's see. Let's do a fashion. Oh, man. Automotive.

[Abbas Wahab]

This is a testament to our engineering.

[Matt Farah]

Not the most fashionable people. God, I'd love to have a go in that wonder.

[Abbas Wahab]

That's a straight go kart though.

[Matt Farah]

Who's got that?

[Abbas Wahab]

Oh, actually those front tires look like they might be 280s, 300.

[Matt Farah]

They look pretty wide.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah, they look pretty wide.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Wow.

[Zach Klapman]

It got auctioned.

[Matt Farah]

Really?

[Zach Klapman]

Road and track hit a story. This is a little while ago. It was concept in 96.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Oh, it doesn't come with an engine. With enough engine that enough that could be fixed. Oh, wow. So what did it get?

[Zach Klapman]

Did it say it had a mid mounted V12?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. This is a deeply nerdy episode of this podcast.

[Abbas Wahab]

What do you guys.

[Matt Farah]

I thought this was asking price of 195,000.

[Abbas Wahab]

That's a lot.

[Matt Farah]

Oh, Jax Toys. Episode five, Ford Indigo. Where is that video shot? Looks like Willow, doesn't it? All right, well, now we're know we could find one. Someone get. Get somebody rich to make one. Please.

[Abbas Wahab]

That's so badass.

[Matt Farah]

Philip Wood.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah, I know. We'll text him when we're done.

[Matt Farah]

I'm gonna text him as soon as I'm done. Dude, what's up? You need to have an Indigo. He's probably. I'd be. I would not be shocked if he was like, it's half done already, right?

[Zach Klapman]

He copied it somehow.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. We have a friend who collects concept cars. It's very next level.

[Abbas Wahab]

I thought a lot of these OEMs kept them for museums.

[Matt Farah]

They do. Eventually they do for. And then they get sold off. And some of the. Some of the 70s and the 80s in particular.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

The companies like ran into money problems. Yeah. All their. Yeah. And so he's got some really crazy stuff.

[Abbas Wahab]

A lot of these guys that collect, they're just like looking. Do they. Is it like a, you know, like a portfolio thing where they're like, oh, we know this car is gonna appreciate. No, this dude or this guy's like.

[Matt Farah]

This dude is on a mission. He's got to have it. Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

He's.

[Matt Farah]

He makes money doing other stuff.

[Zach Klapman]

And I think concept cars, with rare exceptions, are not always appreciating because it's such a strange thing that usually can't be driven.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

And maybe that model never came to be. And is it. Do people care about it because they're never driven. So it's definitely less of a sure thing versus buying a singer. The hype is huge. You know, they drive well. They're very popular.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

This is just art.

[Matt Farah]

I, that this is what I would want. I'd love to find a way like.

[Abbas Wahab]

This guy that you said that has a. Allocation or whatever for the gtd.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

Is this guy going to be driving that thing all the time or is he just like, I know this is.

[Matt Farah]

Going to go up and buy this particular person probably would drive it.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, they probably would. They have a bunch of cars, but they would probably drive it.

[Zach Klapman]

But that's a good question. There are people that.

[Abbas Wahab]

You know what I mean?

[Zach Klapman]

There's plenty of people that just bubble wrap them. They don't drive them. They know it's going to go.

[Matt Farah]

Even the basement second gen Ford GTs. Yeah. The 2017-2020.

[Abbas Wahab]

None on the.

[Matt Farah]

So many people bought them just to sit on them for the two years until the Ford contract expired and they could flip them.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

And if they got an allocation, the car was 550 grand. They sat in it for two years. They turn around, sell it at auction. It's a million. A million too. So you can, you can double your money. All you have to do is not drive this car.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yes, yes. The exact same thing with all those new Lamborghinis. When they do like Revolto and all these, I'm like. Because it'll always be like four Saudi Arabians have the set of the seven. And I'm like, those guys are probably just. It's just a portfolio.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

Right.

[Matt Farah]

Sometimes those guys are crazy and they beat the out of them cars. And the.

[Abbas Wahab]

Some Mr. Bean on the McLaren F1 dude.

[Matt Farah]

Well, yeah, he made money on that. Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

What a legend. Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

He's crashed it twice. Right.

[Abbas Wahab]

And it's worth more because of that?

[Zach Klapman]

Well, it's worth, yeah, it's worth more because they've all been worth more.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

His is also.

[Matt Farah]

It isn't worth more because, because it's been crashed. But they've all there. It's definitely worth more because it still exists.

[Abbas Wahab]

I like my version. All right, well, it's still 10 million it's sold for. Right?

[Matt Farah]

Well, I think it would be more now. Yeah. Some of the Arab guys are buy these cars and drive them into the ground and that's pretty sweet.

[Abbas Wahab]

That, that's, that's the dream come true.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

Right.

[Matt Farah]

Because I'd love to have the world's Highest mileage Ferrari F40. That would be a great time.

[Abbas Wahab]

You're a 40 guy, not F50 guy.

[Matt Farah]

I'm both, yeah, I'm both. How do you, how do you, how does one shoes.

[Abbas Wahab]

I, I, I was at Austin. They have like just kind of like what you have here. I forget what it's called. I was.

[Matt Farah]

Is it called Petrol Lounge?

[Abbas Wahab]

Petrol lounge, yeah. Yes sir.

[Matt Farah]

Shout out to Petrol Lounge.

[Abbas Wahab]

Lovely people, amazing people. They let me in, they let me around. But I was standing daddy like F40, F50 Enzo Tula Ferrari. And then like I just took a picture with it and all these people started going off like F40, F50. And I was just like, there's something about. It's either F40, F50 for me, but there's something more boxy about the F40 that I. Oh yeah, I like.

[Matt Farah]

It's a little more race car.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, more.

[Matt Farah]

It has, it looks a little more like a race car. F50 doesn't have a real race car look to it.

[Zach Klapman]

But I mean when it's race start looking down at the F50, you see that it's got like almost the expansion exposed control arms or like the little dips between the headlights and the center. And I go, ooh. It almost kind of looks like a center seater.

[Matt Farah]

It looks a little more like that 333sp, like open wheeled Le Mans. Not open wheel, open cockpit Le Mans car that they had. They were the Momo cars that they were campaigning for a while, kinda. But the F40 really looks like you took it off out of an endurance race and put it on the road.

[Zach Klapman]

The wing, Especially the wing.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, yeah. And the Lexan rear window.

[Zach Klapman]

That's true, you know, that's very true.

[Abbas Wahab]

What's a Lexan rear window?

[Matt Farah]

It's that like kind of plasticky lightweight material that has the louvers in It. You can't really do that with glass.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

So they do it with molded Lexan. It's clear glass. Clear plastic. Okay.

[Abbas Wahab]

Like plexiglasses, basically.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

It's like softer though. Like you can usually push on it and it moves a little bit. A lot of race cars use it because it won't shatter.

[Matt Farah]

It's light.

[Zach Klapman]

It's very light. It also does flex. Yeah. So with the car.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

Dude, that's badass. Yeah. Yeah. That, that was it F40 or F50 that that one mechanic like took on the road and just like totaled it.

[Matt Farah]

Oh. Recently. Remember that video? Yeah. For. It was a 40 recently. Yeah. You don't want to be that guy.

[Abbas Wahab]

Imagine making that phone call.

[Matt Farah]

There was a body shop back in the day that we used to work with when my friend Larry and I had a detail shop and. And we would do a lot of the detailing work for the body shop and the guy was road testing a Carrera GT and literally put it into like a cobblestone wall. Wall and totally wrote it off. It was like a million four or something at the time. Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

And now they're. Now they recalled the Carrera gt. They're like, do not drive it. Right. Didn't Porsche say like do not drive it?

[Matt Farah]

There was a suspension something or other that could have failed and they were, they were doing it, fixing it for free. And then they were also putting new tires on the cars for free, which is pretty cool.

[Abbas Wahab]

That's what they're saying. That took out Paul Walker, these guys. Right.

[Matt Farah]

I wrote that actually. The.

[Abbas Wahab]

You wrote that.

[Matt Farah]

I wrote that original piece about that. That blaming the tires.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

In 2013.

[Abbas Wahab]

Is it. Was it any like, was it substantiated or anything like that? You feel that it was.

[Matt Farah]

No, no, no, no. It was substantiated. It's. It's. I'm sure there were other factors including speed, but they, there was an effort to. To sue Porsche and prove that the car itself was inherently dangerous. But it was on 10 year old tires. I mean.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yes.

[Matt Farah]

What do you to do? I mean it's so. I try and I shame. I shamed somebody this morning on the mountain for driving a Porsche 928 on tires that had visible cracks and were so old they had no date codes. They were from before date. Like they started doing date codes in.

[Zach Klapman]

200030 year old tires on a cold morning on the hill.

[Matt Farah]

Cold morning on a 928.

[Abbas Wahab]

Get the dude. I had a guy on my show yesterday, funny enough that grew up in Newport Beach With Paul Walker.

[Matt Farah]

Oh, really?

[Abbas Wahab]

And he was just telling me about. He grew up with his younger brother, who's three years younger. And he was telling us about how right before Paul Walker got the first Fast and Furious, it was. Remember A Knight's Tale?

[Zach Klapman]

Yep.

[Abbas Wahab]

With Heath Ledger.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

He was gonna either get that or that. And so he's got that. And Paul's like, it's either this car movie or A Knight's Tale. And he ended up getting Fast and Furious. And the guy was like, saying, like, he was there at the premiere.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

And he's like, you. Everyone could tell is a good movie, but they didn't know. Like, it wasn't like Shawshank with it. Like, it was like, okay. Like, it wasn't really one before that besides, like, gone in 67.

[Matt Farah]

I was at opening night of fast and furious one when I was in college. It was everyone leaving the movie theater was, like, hitting it.

[Abbas Wahab]

I have this dude crazy. I was like, nine or ten. Same thing. I never forget Silver City, Mason. But London, I'm 10. Ontario. Every Civic in that parking lot.

[Zach Klapman]

Every VTech, dude, that was our. That was our general patent speech for car. People were like, let's go. Let's go race. Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

A hundred percent.

[Abbas Wahab]

But he said. Yeah. He said, like, after the fifth movie came out and you're hanging out with Paul Walker, he's like, bro, we couldn't go anywhere.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

He said, we go to the beach and the women would just, like, flock to a level that we. They would have to leave everywhere.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. I was like, whoa, whoa. You couldn't be around that guy. It was like he would suck all of the female energy.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, exactly.

[Matt Farah]

Exactly. Let's go to the Patreon. Of course, if you want to ask us questions, if you want to get the show early, get it live, have no ads, and a whole lot more. Patreon.com the Smoking Tire podcast is where you do it. Isaypork roll says, do you have a favorite car brand to poke fun at? That's for you.

[Abbas Wahab]

Nissan. And my first car was a Nissan Sentra with the mass airflow sensor. Fuck it up every 10 seconds. And just teaching me about cars that are not reliable, you know?

[Matt Farah]

Michael Cosgrove says, what is the jankiest car repair you or your family has attempted?

[Abbas Wahab]

I changed the radiator on my Golf.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

And I put it back on correctly, but my coolant. Sorry, not my coolant. My Freon AC line.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

I put it too close to the serpentine belt, and my AC just stopped working. And I went back in. I realized it was a giant hole in it because it just ate it. And it was a. It was on a two thousand dollar car and the dealership wanted a thousand dollars for the line. I'm like, well, looks like no windows.

[Matt Farah]

Down for the next line. Frozen dingleberry metallic. Have we seen the Trump watches? Yes. A lot of people sent me the Trump Trump watches. They're garbage. They're just like the last ones. These are new Trump watches. Do you see the old Trump watches there?

[Abbas Wahab]

It kind of looks like a knockoff Rolex. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It looks like the man knows how to do merch. So you know, man knows merch. I'll tell you.

[Matt Farah]

You have to respect garbage.

[Abbas Wahab]

Remember those shoes? The watch is better than the shoes. The shoes were. That's right. Remember the shoes?

[Matt Farah]

There's a watch dealer who's like a real D bag. It has a big Instagram presence that very publicly bought the shoes.

[Abbas Wahab]

And yeah, because it's like brand thing. Because it's like everyone who aligns with Trump. They're gold.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, they're gold.

[Abbas Wahab]

The shoes had an American flag and were gold, right? Yeah, they had an American flag. They were very tacky. Yeah, very.

[Matt Farah]

Of course they were. Otto Bon Jovi says, what is a boss's take on the raptor?

[Abbas Wahab]

And TRX drivers like F150 raptor.

[Matt Farah]

F150 raptor, the big off road version.

[Abbas Wahab]

Every, every person I know that has a raptor is a business owner that wants a big truck and would never go off road. They just have a giant raptor that has never seen mud.

[Zach Klapman]

Why do you, do you have an idea of why they want a giant truck?

[Abbas Wahab]

Because, I mean London, Ontario is like a big white community and the F150s, they're like, I want the top F150. They're like, oh, you're platinum. No. What's more power? Raptor. Give me the raptor. That's all the people I know. They're not doing like, you know like Wrangler or tj Jeep, tj. Like the things they're doing. Yeah, Swamp and shit.

[Matt Farah]

Raptor.

[Abbas Wahab]

People are never doing that. That I've met at least maybe in la.

[Matt Farah]

A lot of here in LA we have a desert. Yeah, no, we have the desert. And raptors do make sense in the desert, but pretty much people take them.

[Abbas Wahab]

Out on like dunes or whatever.

[Matt Farah]

People take them on like trails.

[Zach Klapman]

I would say depends on the person.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. I mean most, most off road focused vehicles do not go off road.

[Zach Klapman]

Does he have a Lot of open land. You're allowed to off road on. Is that a thing that exists?

[Abbas Wahab]

Just like new. You know where it usually happens? New constructions where they're building a new neighborhood.

[Zach Klapman]

Oh, so there's no.

[Abbas Wahab]

They built the one side. Like my buddy's got a defender and he's just going up and down. Because they didn't build the biology.

[Zach Klapman]

Because like here there's a place where you can actually. Sometimes they're free. You just drive in and it's like. Yep, you're allowed to off road here. That's what it's for.

[Abbas Wahab]

No, it's. America's better like that.

[Matt Farah]

We have. We have huge off road parks near here.

[Abbas Wahab]

I'm not saying they don't exist in. I just. In a VW Golf. I have not come by them or googled them, but I'm sure they're out there or just go to random forest.

[Matt Farah]

Next time you're in town. If you'd like to go off roading, I'm sure we can arrange such a thing. Bad gardener says, what cars that you can afford do you want, but you're unlikely to let yourself buy? Could be for maintenance, impracticality, etc.

[Abbas Wahab]

E39M5.

[Matt Farah]

Sure, that's a good choice.

[Abbas Wahab]

E39M5. Six Speed Man Manual.

[Matt Farah]

That's a good choice.

[Abbas Wahab]

What?

[Matt Farah]

That's very expensive to maintain.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Probably not worth it.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah. But there's a car, right?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, they drive good.

[Abbas Wahab]

What a beautiful car.

[Matt Farah]

I'd like to have a Volkswagen golf country, the 4x4 synchro golf on like big wheels. Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

The off road one that's lifted.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Factory. You ever see that?

[Abbas Wahab]

No, I saw the Porsche version of that.

[Matt Farah]

There's a.

[Abbas Wahab]

The 911 version. Safari.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, the Dacar. The Safari Golf country, the Gulf country. Look at that.

[Abbas Wahab]

Oh, that's badass.

[Matt Farah]

That's. That's. They made 7,000 examples. Yeah, basically. But it has, it has the Vanagon synchro system.

[Zach Klapman]

These wheels are.

[Abbas Wahab]

What the hell is that?

[Matt Farah]

Small, full, proper 4x4 wheel drive system.

[Abbas Wahab]

Really?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. On this car? Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

Wow.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

Full time or like you can turn it on and off?

[Matt Farah]

I believe full time. I believe it's full time.

[Abbas Wahab]

This is just a straight off road car.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, it's kicking gas.

[Zach Klapman]

Our friend took that all wheel drive system and built a all wheel drive corrado with it and like supercharged it. It was fast.

[Abbas Wahab]

Jesus. Pretty sucked.

[Matt Farah]

Oh, I should go back.

[Abbas Wahab]

Things people do.

[Matt Farah]

A great one of those is like probably 30 grand of that one right there.

[Zach Klapman]

Really But a decent one is 12.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Huh?

[Zach Klapman]

A decent one's 12. A few years ago, they were 12.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. No, but, like, you want a good one, that's one of the. You don't want to deal with one of them. A bad one of those.

[Zach Klapman]

One that runs well but doesn't need to look perfect.

[Abbas Wahab]

Sure.

[Zach Klapman]

Take it to the dirt.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

I'll it up.

[Abbas Wahab]

Up.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. What Lucas says, what was first for a boss cars or comedy cars, right?

[Abbas Wahab]

Oh, I was. I was carbs that. Since, like, I was eight or nine years old, I actually, I went. I wanted to become a mechanical engineer to. To invent a car. That was like, my dream as a kid.

[Zach Klapman]

How old were you when you moved here from Sudan?

[Abbas Wahab]

6.

[Zach Klapman]

So did you get. Were you into cars in Sudan? Was there car culture there, or was it not?

[Matt Farah]

No, no. I mean, my.

[Abbas Wahab]

Your memory really starts, like, six, seven, right? Like, I. No, the first thing I remember of Canada is I moved to Canada 6. I saw a Dodge Caravan with a Nike bumper stick on the back. And for a year, I told my brother, I'm like, yo, Nike makes cars, bro. Nike makes cars. And I was, like, looking for it the whole time.

[Zach Klapman]

I swear, dude, one of one.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, I. I saw it.

[Matt Farah]

You lied. Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

But no, I've had it. Like, I just been obsessed with car my whole life.

[Zach Klapman]

What was the first car you saw in. In real life in Canada that you were. Besides the Nike car? Like, the first sports car?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, that'll do.

[Zach Klapman]

Oh, Testeros will do it.

[Abbas Wahab]

17 red Testarosa. I was wearing a red shirt. I gave my buddy a phone. Take a picture. It was my Facebook profile pic for, like, 15 years. I'm just bending down next to this Testa Rosa. That's a. That shark fin thing.

[Matt Farah]

That's what's up. Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

Beautiful.

[Matt Farah]

That'll do it.

[Abbas Wahab]

Is that a reliable car by. Historically, by Ferrari standards?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. They're expensive to maintain, but they work good. Yeah, yeah. If you wanted to go cross country in an old Ferrari, that would be a good choice.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

Some of the services require engine out, though.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, yeah. No, that's what I mean by expensive. Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

Like engines. Like, new engine.

[Matt Farah]

No, just take the engine out to service and then put it back in.

[Abbas Wahab]

Don't say oil change.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, no, not oil change, but every five years, you have to do a timing belt service that requires. Requires it. Yeah, five to seven years. If you drive the car, the car.

[Zach Klapman]

Is designed to do that. The subframe drops.

[Matt Farah]

But, like, they're. They're built really well. Shockingly well. For like an 80s Italian thing. Like almost everything.

[Abbas Wahab]

Because I think it was much simpler. Right. Because the test was a small body.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

It's not a small car and it's not crazy horsepower.

[Matt Farah]

The structure of it is a. Is very well constructed.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

For the 1980s in Italy.

[Abbas Wahab]

But the Italian, their issue is more like engine reliability than structure issues. Right. Or is it both?

[Matt Farah]

The metallurgy in Italy was like really bad in the 80s. Yeah. So just there's stuff that, like, you have to. There's stuff about all these cars that needs to be upgraded. Like once. Like, I have a Lamborghini Countach and.

[Abbas Wahab]

Another poster I had.

[Matt Farah]

All the valves are bad from the factory. So you have to get all new.

[Abbas Wahab]

Valves from the factory.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, the factory valves are shit. And so you have to replace them with better valves. Like the. Every car needs this.

[Abbas Wahab]

And Lamborghini, like advises.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Well, they didn't. They haven't made this car for 35 years. But like, it's a known thing.

[Zach Klapman]

It's like the BMW bearing issue.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

Oh, they should have made them out of something.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. It was a manufacturing defect. So they all need them. So it's like $50,000 to do that. But you. But they all need it, so.

[Abbas Wahab]

And wouldn't that be a recall? It's not a recall. Recall like back then.

[Matt Farah]

This is 1987. Oh, you're saying gray market shit. Nobody knew about this until like the late 90s.

[Abbas Wahab]

Got it. Okay. OK.

[Matt Farah]

It wasn't like an immediate problem. Maybe I wasn't clear. It was not an immediate problem, but over time, they all need it. Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

How's the car, though?

[Matt Farah]

It's the best car in the world. When. When it's running and driving, it's the best.

[Abbas Wahab]

That's probably. That might be one of the most popular posters. Lamborghini Kash.

[Matt Farah]

I own the car and I have a poster of it in my office of my car. It's. I'm silly. There's also another one right out there.

[Abbas Wahab]

Do you ever just think about, like, I made it. You ever just think that?

[Matt Farah]

So that's funny because that was the last one of the questions here. Chris Lafore, what's your dream? I made it car.

[Abbas Wahab]

Honestly, man, like, numbers wise.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

It would be like a Singer 911. But like, if I got an E39 M5 and was not worried. Head gasket issues, was not worried, like, I could. Whatever comes my way, I can. I already made it at that point. Right. Because that guy's gonna be a money pit, you know? Yeah, but, yeah, I could. I mean, I'd love a 458 Italia. I'd love. I'd love. Love a. I'd love a Testarossa.

[Matt Farah]

It's a good time to get in on Testarossas. They're not as cheap as they were, but they're not as much as they're going to be. And they're very nice.

[Abbas Wahab]

I'll get on the auctions tonight.

[Matt Farah]

Did you see the one we have downstairs?

[Zach Klapman]

We didn't walk all the way to the back.

[Matt Farah]

Oh, there's a red one down here you can take a look at. Yeah, it's nice. It has the power. Seat belts from the 80s.

[Abbas Wahab]

Oh, that coming. My mom's Mercury van had that too.

[Matt Farah]

Villager. My mom had a Villager.

[Abbas Wahab]

I grew up with a villager.

[Matt Farah]

What color?

[Abbas Wahab]

Red. Maroon. Maroon? Yes, sir.

[Matt Farah]

That's a LS2 tone or GS.

[Abbas Wahab]

It was not two tone, sir.

[Matt Farah]

Not too. That's a GS.

[Abbas Wahab]

That was bass.

[Matt Farah]

My mom had the Nautica. Remember that joint?

[Abbas Wahab]

Don't even remember it.

[Matt Farah]

No, it was a collab with the Nautica clothing brand. Yeah. And the looked like a sailboat. Yeah, it was silly.

[Abbas Wahab]

That's. Yeah, they don't do that anymore.

[Matt Farah]

Huh?

[Abbas Wahab]

Besides. And Gucci. And this is the second time I heard of that.

[Zach Klapman]

They don't do the crowd.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. The fash. That eddie Bauer did one.

[Zach Klapman]

No, they didn't.

[Matt Farah]

Every Ford SUV in the 1990s was an Eddie. Unless you got the Eddie Bauer version. Yeah. Oh, xlt. That's for poor people. Eddie Bauer is where it's at. Subaru had the LL Bean. Lincoln had cardier. Tiffany.

[Abbas Wahab]

Damn those way more.

[Matt Farah]

Lexus had Coach.

[Abbas Wahab]

Did Mini. Wait, is John Cooper Works? Is that a brand or is that like.

[Matt Farah]

John Cooper Works is the performance division of many.

[Abbas Wahab]

Got it.

[Matt Farah]

So JCW is the fast.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, yeah.

[Matt Farah]

What other fashion. Versace, Lambo.

[Abbas Wahab]

That just. That's just. That's a good brand alignment.

[Zach Klapman]

Because they're already together.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. I don't remember any cheaper cars that had fashion collabs. Yeah. Oh, I mean, like, there was some, like Chrysler. Oh, there was a John Varvatos. Chrysler 300.

[Abbas Wahab]

John Varvatos. I don't even know that brand.

[Matt Farah]

That's some fashion designer. Yeah. Last one, just the Tiptronic. Have you been seeing ads for the Afeela 1 EV by quote, Sony, Honda Mobility? The ads are hilariously cringy. Yes, they are. Do you think a 100k EV sedan by a Honda spinoff has any hope of success? I think Afila is a really weird name.

[Abbas Wahab]

I have never even heard. Heard of it. Oh, it is owned by Honda.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. It's a collab car between Honda and Sony.

[Abbas Wahab]

Oh, and they fully write a Fila. Oh, that's a terrible commercial.

[Matt Farah]

Not a good name.

[Abbas Wahab]

I thought it would have been an A with a circle around it or something. If they just write a Fila.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

Wow.

[Matt Farah]

So.

[Abbas Wahab]

So it looks like. What's it called? The lucid. Kind of.

[Matt Farah]

It does kind of look like somewhere between a lucid and a hydrogen car. The Toyota. The Toyota Mirai hydrogen car. A little bit to me. I don't.

[Abbas Wahab]

I don't think it looks bad. It looks like when they. Like when people colonize Mars. That'd be the car on Mars. Kind of. It just looks like the Tesla Mars.

[Matt Farah]

It's just a bubble.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah, it's a car. Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

It's not a bad looking car. It's just a car.

[Matt Farah]

But it's $90,000. Which no one's gonna buy them. Right. It's a lease. Right. So they're gonna lease super cheap probably.

[Abbas Wahab]

If you got that kind of money. Get an I.D. buzz. You know what I mean?

[Matt Farah]

Dude, I don't know. But starting. If you can't start a new car company with a name.

[Abbas Wahab]

That just sounds bad right off the weird.

[Matt Farah]

Right? I know how many people sat around.

[Abbas Wahab]

I felt like that about Polestar.

[Matt Farah]

Oh, it's. I still feel that way.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

What the is.

[Matt Farah]

How do you not think about strippers?

[Abbas Wahab]

Right, Right. And the logo is like there's an actor acronym.

[Zach Klapman]

I'm assuming it's all caps. Does it stand for something intended to.

[Matt Farah]

Evoke a sense of feel and affinity? Little.

[Abbas Wahab]

They're like a feela.

[Zach Klapman]

Well, because their website is all capital letters a feela. So I thought it was an acronym, but I guess they just decided to go all caps. Aggressive stinks.

[Matt Farah]

Wait, go up. What does it say? What did that say? 40 units. Go up.

[Zach Klapman]

Just have a nice day. On.

[Matt Farah]

Wait, scroll up. Oh, sensors. 40 units. Oh, because it's supposed to be a level three autonomous is why. So semi autonomous. Level three. We'll see if they take responsibility. It's got LIDAR. See, it has LIDAR nipples on the roof.

[Abbas Wahab]

Yeah. A lot more low key than the ones I saw in SF and Waymo or whatever that.

[Matt Farah]

Oh yeah, with the major sensors. They're all over here.

[Abbas Wahab]

I thought they were like, it looks like it's in space.

[Matt Farah]

You stand outside our front door. You'll see them shits all in a second. Thanks, patrons. Good questions today.

[Abbas Wahab]

Boss has been a for the Patreon people. Catch me tonight at HAHA Comedy Club. I don't know if this is this video yet even, but haha comedy club. 8pm tonight, North Hollywood. Haha comedy club.

[Matt Farah]

Everybody else, catch them on Instagram and Abbas Wahab. Doc. It's a B, B, A, S. If.

[Abbas Wahab]

You scroll down, you'll see my dates here.

[Matt Farah]

Oh, we got dates.

[Abbas Wahab]

So, yeah, I'll be in D.C. on May 15 and then Seattle at the end of the month. Portland. Just go to Abbas Wahab.

[Matt Farah]

Lots of Canada, dude.

[Zach Klapman]

You're going everywhere.

[Matt Farah]

Lots of Canada. Canada. Yeah.

[Abbas Wahab]

I'm Canadian, baby. I gotta rub my people shout out to Canada. Look at me, I'm in la, baby.

[Matt Farah]

Good time to be in Canada.

[Abbas Wahab]

Thank you for having me.

[Zach Klapman]

Thanks for coming.

[Matt Farah]

Thanks for coming, man.

[Abbas Wahab]

It's been a real pleasure.

[Matt Farah]

I appreciate it. May you have a. I hope this.

[Abbas Wahab]

Is not two and two, you know, in the pocket. Not even in the pocket.

[Matt Farah]

All right. Oh, inside baseball.

[Abbas Wahab]

Inside baseball. Ah, I don't know the adages.

[Matt Farah]

Why have your own podcast if you can't talk about the. You want. I'm saying.

[Abbas Wahab]

Roger that.

[Matt Farah]

All right, see you all later. Bye.