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Matt's Top 5 entry-level luxury watches; Faraday's weird future; Myers Manx engine update; Lamborghini Countach engine problem; Mazda 3 hatchback manual review; and Patreon questions include: Rank fast wagons Replace the Countach with? Will Texas track speeders like Japan? Are 911Ts worth their price? Cars that look like worse versions of competition Can Waymo handle Philly? SS 1LE Track car: modify or replace? Best convertible for road trips with mom Would a smaller motor make an EV more efficient? Best car for divorced CEOs? Plan an F1 street route in Los Angeles Why Matt doesn't like kit cars Is the 992 GT3RS overrated? Tedson motors And more! Recorded July 22, 2025 Houston Tickets https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-smoking-tire-one-of-the-worlds-biggest-car-podcast-coming-to-houston-tickets-1439944967159?utm-campaign=social&utm-content=attendeeshare&utm-medium=discovery&utm-term=listing&utm-source=cp&aff=ebdsshcopyurl Dallas Tickets https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-smoking-...
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What's up, everybody?
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Welcome to the Smoking Tire Podcast. Now, we are, as always, brought to you by off the record. But I'm not talking about them today because TST is coming to Texas. That's right. This Thursday and Friday, July 23rd and 24th, we are in Houston and Dallas respectively, doing live podcasts at the shop clubs. Come see us In Houston, Thursday, July 24th, with our pal Christian James, James Hand. And Friday, July 25th in Dallas. Tickets are going quick. It will sell out, so buy them now. The ticket link is in the show notes for this podcast as well as the Smoking Tire Instagram description link in bio. So get tickets. Come see us this Thursday and Friday in Texas. And if it goes well, it's the. The kind of thing we'll keep doing in coming to you other places throughout the country. So let's get to it.
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All right, folks, on this episode of the podcast, I give you my five favorite indie watches from the Intersect Watch show. Zach and I review the Mazda 3 in manual gearbox.
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That's right, the last stick Mazda 3.
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My engine is having a hard time getting through customs. An update on the Myers Manx and some fair fabulous questions from our patrons. It's the Smoking Tire Podcast. Let's go. Well, yeah, but mine is more elegant.
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C
It's true.
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A
Yeah, it's like formal.
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C
Yeah.
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A
Like Hannah and I, when Hannah had Covid. How we dined. The opposite ends.
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C
Yeah.
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Six feet away, long dining table.
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C
I was like, you have the butler bring the salt.
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A
Yeah. I feel like I was in the Gilded Age, which is a show I am, like, ashamed to say that I watch.
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C
It's the actual age.
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A
No, no, there it is. But also it's the television show and it's like a show for my mother. And for some reason, at some point, out of boredom, I started watching episode one, and now I am in and current.
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C
Why is it for your mother and not for you?
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A
Oh, because it's about like, these like, terrible, awful, scheming, high society people in the turn of the century. I think it's probably just before the turn.
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C
Is it billions but with old clothes and horses?
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Yeah, but like, it's more based around, like, the women of the society and the men are like kind of side characters. Except for one husband that has who's like a shitty railroad baron. Like, you know, got it. But like, yeah, I don't. I don't know why I watch this show. It's like, I don't watch a lot of shows, but for some reason I'm watching this shit.
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C
We're trying to watch the Bear, which is.
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A
Yeah, I just.
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C
I just started a comedy and I like. It's a great drama, It's a great show. But once I learned, and this was years ago, I realized that it's classified as a comedy at the Emmys and stuff. I can't get that thought out of my head. So every episode, there are episodes where there's like one written joke in the whole episode.
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Sure.
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C
And I just watch it. People are crying, yelling at each other. People are having panic attacks.
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No, there needs to be.
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C
And I'm like, this is BS the last episode, you know, Sarah, like last year had a really rough year with her dad and her brother. The episode covered both of those topics and not in a funny way, Matt.
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And no trigger warnings. Yeah.
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C
So I'm just like watching her cry and I'm like. And I'm also like. I'm pretty forgiving. And if it's a dark comedy, it's a dark comedy like this has so few jokes. And in some episodes it really bothers me.
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I mean, listen, that sounds like some recent, you know, stand. Reactionary. Stand up sets I've heard.
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C
Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is.
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There should the better category at the Emmys for panic attack inducing stress series.
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C
Sure.
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Like the Bear, which is pretty much what that. Whatever that was the first season. The what? The episode that was like the long cut where it was just a fucking panic attack for 46 minutes in one take. Jesus Christ. That was too much.
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C
Or the family gathering. That was. Yeah, right. Yeah.
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A
Like that kind of fucking Jamie Lee Curtis hurling a turkey.
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C
And it's a. It's a great show. Acting, writing, the way it's shot. Everything's magic. And if you just put it as a drama, I'm on board. But when you. When I just imagine their fault. Huh. We don't. I don't know.
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A
Whose fault is it?
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C
Somebody.
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A
The Bear is like a comedy.
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C
I don't know.
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A
Or Sarah Cross.
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C
I'm getting to the bottom of it. I'll tell you what.
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A
Because if it's. It's one thing. If it's like someone. If an EP did a production loophole and it's like, hey, guys, guess what?
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C
We're gonna win this.
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We got just enough jokes to stay, you know, because to qualify, it's probably like, to qualify as a comedy for an Emmy, you need a.3 jokes per episode or whatever. They probably could sneak in other. Alternatively, if it's, you know, something that is chosen. They're nominated in this category by the Emmy commission. What Are you gonna say no? You know, you gonna say no to the golden statue?
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C
But I feel like it wouldn't win a best comedy against comedies.
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A
It's like, let's say you're a senator and they're like, look, you know, you're supposed to listen to what your constituents want to do, but here's a boat. What are you gonna say? No, it's a boat. You're not gonna say no to a boat.
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C
I think this is the Johnny Knoxville movie. Remember he went and like, the whole like, you know, person competing in the Special Olympics thing, and then like, you're not good enough to be in the real Olympics or the Special Olympics because they're actually amazing athletes. I feel like this is like, oh, let's put them in the comedy part. Like, well, it's not as funny as 30 Rock. I know it's off the air, but like.
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A
Yeah, that's just.
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C
Anyway, that's my rant about a comedy.
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It's like, what the. It's like, well, it's like a porn. I know what a comedy is when it's presented to me.
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C
Right?
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You know what I mean? Yeah, Pretty sure I know what a porno is.
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C
Just like, I'll know it when I see it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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As long as it's not like some fucking preacher saying that shit and like a regular person, you're fine, you know.
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C
I mean, that was the senator who said, I think during the. The case against what's his face. Larry. Oh, Larry Flynn.
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Yeah, Larry Flynn. I mean, listen, if that senator doesn't have the hoard, the hoard to end horde.
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C
It's a research library. Matt Farrell. Matt, am I not supposed to study the material up? I believe I'm supposed to study that material front, back and upside down.
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A
And if.
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C
Give me that Kleenex.
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A
If I were to ejaculate during the course of my research, I mean, one could not be helped.
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C
That's how we know it's pornography meant. Fair. If I ejaculate during the studying of this bill of this legal argument, then we know it's pornography. And if I don't, I'll try again.
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A
We are heading there.
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C
We are.
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We are very much heading there. All right, well. Cars. Hi, how are you? Cars. It's a good, like, fucking little warm up vibe. Who was on the island? I don't know.
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C
Don't forget. Yeah, everybody. Don't forget.
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Well, keep talking about it. The end to so I. There is a Me and Spike Fariston did a television show in 2014. Was the first time we ever really hung out. And there were four people on this television show. Four hosts. Me, Spike, Sam Smith, and a NASCAR driver named Brian Vickers, who was a lovely guy and whose wife he is now divorcing. The story broke yesterday. Allegedly ran girls for Jeffrey Epstein. Whoa. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And.
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C
And is that why they're getting divorced? Or is this like a.
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If. If that isn't a reason. No, no, no.
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C
I'm saying, like, was it already happening and then this just got discovered or.
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No, no. They. They. This was. It was known. There was. There was other stories about this. About the wife.
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C
Wow.
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Yeah. Yeah. And when we met them, she was driving a Ferrari. Brand new V12 front engine. Ferrari. I think it was either. I think it was a 599 at the time. And told us that she was an interior designer in, like, Palm Beach. And it turns out that she did have, in fact, an interior design business registered in Palm beach in a building Jeffrey Epstein owns. It's like. Yeah, it was some. Some interesting things. Yeah, that's how it was connected to cars.
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C
Okay.
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Yeah. Poor Bron.
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C
There's a Ferrari in that story. Wow.
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Huh? There's a Ferrari in that story. And a NASCAR driver. Former NASCAR driver.
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C
Hey, there you go.
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Brian Vickers was pretty fun. We. I enjoyed hanging out with Brian Vickers during that TV show. He was a good time.
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C
Nice. Yeah, yeah.
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He was a good time.
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C
Wait, lift the mic a little bit just because that set drooping. That's it for Bradan.
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Ah. Oh, wow. They really. They really did crank this thing down. They didn't. They made no bones about that. There we go. I see one day we're gonna need to replace. Those are gonna be a thousand dollars for those little knobs. Better?
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C
Mm. Yes.
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I sound good now. Okay, cars. Well, we shouldn't go too far without talking about that little Mazda 3 that they just picked up. I got this thing last, Mazda 3 stick shift press car. And so there's no pictures of it on my Instagram. We're gonna have to get. Sorry. But it actually, like, it's an. It's a fairly old design. They've been making one that looks like this for a while. And it was the hatchback, which I think does look nice. And the interior. Man, if you're someone who doesn't want, like, too much screen in your life, this is a great place to be.
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C
That's true.
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Really nice materials. Everything you touch. There we go. That's it. The gray one right there. Yeah, that's it. I don't love the exterior styling of the car, particularly that last bit above the rear wheel, I think looks a little strange.
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C
It's a. It's a really thick pillar. Very. You know, because the glass doesn't wrap around the back. Glass doesn't wrap around to the side.
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A
Yeah.
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C
Like it does with some other cars. Let me get it.
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It doesn't like affect your rear visibility. Like there aren't big blind spots or anything. But I just, I don't think it has. I don't think every angle is good. This front three quarter, pretty good.
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C
Yep.
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Rear three quarter side profile, not good.
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C
Because the front is. Is like this nice trim, aerodynamic. I like the. I like the eyes of it. All that stuff looks great. And then. And even the A pillar from here looks really thin. And then you go to the back C pillar.
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It's like, it's like they did the sedan first and then they went, shit, we need a hatchback. You know, like they did with the Ferrari Roma being a convertible. It's like that. It's a good question, but how long has it been since we've driven a brand new front wheel drive naturally aspirated stick shift car? Like a pretty long time. And what I really appreciated about this was like the linearness of it and the fact that you could accidentally, if you weren't paying attention, just like sit at 6,000 rpm in this car all day because it was so smooth. Smooth.
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C
Yes, smooth. It's easy to forget to shift drive around town.
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If you were the kind of person who really wanted to drive a manual transmission but you also had like a bitch of a commute, this would be fabulous. It's not fast, but it's like fast enough. It's fast enough for everyday driving for sure. It's just not fast to be exciting. But the inputs are nice. Steering wheel, lovely. Pedals are great. Seats were nice.
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C
Seats are really comfortable. The dash is simple, but looks pretty elegant. I feel like it will be not timeless, but close. Like it's just so simple and neat that you go. I mean, I just looked it up. We tested one in 2021.
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Yeah.
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C
So it's four years later.
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A
Yeah.
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C
Still looks pretty good inside. Hasn't done anything offensive.
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It just doesn't have the touch screen. You have to do the puck thing.
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C
Right.
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Which I. It is annoying to use CarPlay with a puck, but I was surprised at how quickly I was able to do things that I expected to take a long time like just navigating through CarPlay. I expected to be much more annoying with the puck. Than it actually was.
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They've done a great job of making like, not shortcuts, but laying out where the buttons land as you rotate and you see, you know, it goes from whatever like zoom in to zoom out to, you know, go back and all that stuff. And it, it works.
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It does work well. And driving at night is really nice because the screen isn't super bright and the gauges in front of you are really not too bright. So your eyes stay. This is a thing that as I as, as a I'm, as I get older, combined with the fact that there's fucking cars are full of screens now, I really start to notice this. Like, it's really hard to find cars where your eyes remain adjusted to outside.
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C
Yes.
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A
And like when you do find one, like, embrace that shit because it's nice like this. Yeah. Look how clean this is. This, this interior. That steering wheel is as perfect as steering wheels get.
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A
Like holding it, that's about as close to a Porsche steering wheel as you're going to find for $30,000. It's almost a perfect mimic of a Porsche.
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C
I mean, I just got out of the M5 touring that you gave me and there's just so many like weird buttons and shapes and granted I just got into it, I'll get used to it. However, this steering wheel here is simple. It looks nice. The feedback on the buttons is like a nice spring rate.
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A
Yeah.
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C
It feels like a more expensive car. And that's what Mazda always gets right. They make their cars feel a little bit more expensive than they are.
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Yeah. So if you were like, if you were doing a lot of highway and like I got like, you get like mid high 30s all day regular gas, you know, and there's no turbo. That's not going to be a stressed out engine unless you absolutely kick the shit out of it constantly. There isn't an LSD in this one so it's not, you know, it's not super sporty but it is like it is reasonably engaging to drive. I do wish that like that there was the combination of an incredibly smooth engine. There's like no clutch feel at all. So you find yourself like from a stop not being able to like elegantly pull away all the time and riding the clutch a little extra or like, you know, not realizing like if you come to a stop and you're just like in neutral, like if your foot is like resting like just touching the gas a little bit, like it can happen in any car. Like there's no resistance. So it'll just be like. And you won't even know until it's at like 4 because it's so refined.
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C
It's such a smooth engine.
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A
Yeah.
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C
It also rides better than the CX50 Meridian Edition we had. I swear to God. This has slightly better, softer spring rates or something. It's just a little bit more comfortable around town.
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I mean it's smaller, it's lighter, it's got lighter wheels. It doesn't need heavier springs. It's the opposite of the M5.
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C
That's true.
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A
Which has all the springs. The thing has like truck springs.
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C
Yeah. It's weird. It's real weird.
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A
All the spring and none of the damper. It's insane.
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C
I get what you're saying. I drove it for five minutes and I know you put the thought in my head, but it felt like ADAS was on.
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A
Yeah.
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C
It's not, it's just. But it doesn't tramline as much as, you know, GT500. When it would do that, you knew that's what was happening.
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305 fronts. This is 255.
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C
Right. So I think the tram line is so subtle.
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A
Yeah.
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C
That you don't notice it at first. And then you're the frog Getting boiled. You're like, is that what's happening? It's not. It's not electronic steering itself. It's just the road. But only a little bit. It's like, enough to make you unsettled.
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A
Yeah.
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C
But not enough to, like, move the car where you focus.
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A
Well, I want. I don't want to. I don't want to detour into M5 land because it's too easy to do that. And. And you've driven it for seven minutes. And I want you to drive it for reals because you will have many thoughts and I have many, many thoughts about the M5. But. But this Mazda, if you. If you're like, I got it. Because there are so few manual transmission cars left, we should be. We should be testing all of them. Like, whatever. Stick shift. I asked all the fleet guys, like, what stick shift cars do you have? Like, there's almost none. But look at that. Look at that beautifully elegant and simple air conditioning control bit right in the middle. The cup holders in front of the shifter so they're never in the way of your elbow when you're rowing gears. Like the fucking. The $150,000 Porsche. We spent all morning when I put my coffee in the cup holder. You had to do some like, Back to the future DeLorean, DeLorean driving to do that.
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C
It's a rotator cuff workout. Yeah. To get my arm.
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A
That's the move, right. The fucking Marty McFly.
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C
I had to resume over the top, you know, like I was stealing fish.
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A
Yeah. That car was like, not designed for stick.
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C
Why don't they put the. Good question. Why don't they put the cup holders in front of the shifter and the Porsche put the H vac controls in the back where you don't really touch them that much.
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A
I don't know. I.
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C
There's a couple.
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A
There is definitely a reason.
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C
There's definitely. Oh, yeah.
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A
I mean, that cup holder is not a problem at all in the PDK car. In the PDK car. That. That doesn't. That car coupler is all right. And there's a far dash one on the right.
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C
Yep.
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A
So you can like really use that one. That matters.
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C
But yeah, I like the stealthy one in the Porsche is nice.
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A
Somebody and some nerd in the forums has like made a thing that you can get.
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C
I'm sure that puts the cup holder.
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A
In the front that like. Yeah, that's like it. Like it. Instead of it being here, it's like a 3D printed part that fits in that fitting, but like moves the cup holder over here for if you don't have a passenger.
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C
That's the accurate NSX move, right?
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A
Yeah, that's where the footwell cup holder also. Mia doesn't.
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C
Oh, Miata Elbo have it.
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A
Miata has the elbow.
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C
That one.
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A
It's back here.
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C
Oh yeah. NSX is on the side.
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A
NSX was the. Yeah. That was crazy.
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C
This also I like going back to Mazda. Three gauges, simple, nice. I mean real analog. Sure. Like a little old school. Maybe I could do with like one screen somewhere if you wanted to. If you had to get fancy. But like this look, this works totally fine.
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A
Yeah. For. Dude, for this thing gets so many things right. If you like driving a lot and if you're doing a lot of miles, like, oh man, I don't, I don't really want like a Prius or something. Like I need something that's like, keeps me alive, you know, inside. Like this will do it. And also if you get stuck in traffic, the controls are light enough that you won't like go insane.
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C
That's true.
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A
Yeah. So I liked it. I actually, I actually did like it. I. Maybe there's some way in the aftermarket if there's like some clutch helper spring or something you just take out and all of a sudden there's clutch feel. That would be maybe nice. But. But aside from that, I mean, and it's. It's not fast, but like, whatever. It's. It was fine. It's fine.
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C
Yeah.
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A
For commuting. For it's. It was pretty fun. Yeah. And if you like stick shift and you like touching. Good, good inputs, that's what it's for. So thank you to Mazda for letting us have a go for that one. Should we talk about Intersect, the watch thing?
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C
Yeah.
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That I was at this weekend. So Intersect is an awesome, awesome show. It's actually. But I also did no Instagram, but they have their own Instagram for Intersect because I figured I was doing this bit. So it's a watch show for enthusiasts put on by the notice guys who I did the collab with for the Canyon. And it's 30 brands come together at this brewery space in Long beach and show their wares and you can buy watches there and you can put orders in. But that's not really what it's for. It's really to like. Because a lot of these, what you call micro brands or niche brands, you know, they sell online, they advertise on Instagram, they promote online. But a lot of these companies, like they don't have stores so you can't really try something on without buying it. It's just like the nature of the business. So you listen to influencers and whatever, but you never know. And so a lot of times you'll see something that looks cool on Instagram and, and then you, you get it and you know, it doesn't really look great on my wrist or whatever. And that can happen at the very high end Swiss level as well. Except usually you would go into the boutique and try it on before you. Before you took it home. So at least there's that. Most of this stuff is done mail order. So anyway, it's a great opportunity, you know, like, like a traditional auto show, like the LA Auto show, to actually, you know, test drive some of this st. So I went and checked it out with Hannah. It was really fun. We were promoting the mother of Pearl Canyon. People were really into the Green Canyon. I think we sold almost every single one we had. I actually saw some of notice other newer designs in person for the first time. They have one called the Trail Trekker, which I don't love the name Trail Trekker, but it's basically their version of a Rolex Explorer ii. But it's this like gray like DLC coating on the who watch and bracelet. It's basically like a hiking, mountaineering kind of vibe and I think you would really like it. But I made a list outside of notice who I'm clearly biased towards of my five favorite. Yeah, it's nice, right?
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C
It's very cool.
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A
Yeah. My five favorite watches from Intersect. Because a lot of times, like there's so many micro brands that when people ask me like, what's a cool watch? And like I don't have something at this price point. So like every, every watch that's on this list that I'm talking about is under $2,000, which is a price point that like we're trying, everyone's trying. We're trying to hit a lot more. Like I know that's a lot of money for people, but like it's a lot less than 10. And like what we're trying to do is get like quality watchmaking to two people at that price point.
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C
I think to clarify, you're saying it's less than 10 because the big brands that people know about. Yeah, right. Those kind of Start Omega, Rolex, whatever. That's kind of.
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Yeah, that's where you. That's like 5,000 and up. And that's for many people is like not even close to a reality. And for these brands, the stuff they Sell starts at like 600. But nothing on the list that I have here is over 2,000. Most of them are around 1,000, which is a, you know, you want to get. If you're gonna, if you want something like quality, that's, that, that, that's kind of, you do have to spend a little bit of money. Like componentry ain't fucking free. So these are sort of my top five. Not in, not in a ranked order. This isn't, this isn't the winners. I just wanted to, I wanted to familiarize people with some watches that I think are cool that wouldn't have come up in conversation of what, what should I be buying questions. Because we get asked this a lot.
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C
We do.
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A
So first one, this one I kept, keep going back to.
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This one I keep going back to and I've almost bought it twice. This is called the Jack Mason Stratotimer. They were selling at Intersect at a Show special for 1050, but the regular price is 1150. Extremely handsome watch GMT. It's basically halfway between a Seiko turtle, which I'm wearing right now, and a Rolex gmt. Yeah, and it comes in a whole bunch of different dial colors, bezel colors you get on a jubilee bracelet, you get an oyster bracelet. They're all about the same price. They're not too thick. They have a sort of a cool vintage vibe. They have different elements pulled from, you know, different visual elements pulled from different styles. You can sort of pick out the bits of inspiration from other places. Nevertheless, incredibly handsome watches. I sent Zach the link of the one with the white dial. And the reason I like the one with the white dial is because Rolex doesn't make one in this particular combo. They have other combos that sort of mimic Rolex colors. But if you're gonna do something that even remotely knocks on the door of being a Rolex homage, which I don't think this is, but certain elements do. Get close. Make it. Get it in a different fucking color.
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C
Right? Make it different enough.
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A
Don't make it look like you're trying to knock off a Rolex because it's a bad look. Because there's so many cool watches at every price point. You don't need to fake it, you know, so it's. It's a. It's got a good movement. Miyota GMT Automatic. It's. It's finished. Ish. It's got some finishing on it with a display back. So anyway, I've almost bought these twice. And every time I. It. You know what's funny is the reason I keep coming back to it is because it sits right in the. At the Venn diagram of visual ele. I like. The problem is I already own all the watches that have the visual elements I like.
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C
It's like a turtle Pepsi with a white.
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A
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a fabulous look. And they have them in all these cool colors. I've just been like, man, it's like right in the middle of shit. I've already got. I just. I don't need to plug that.
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C
That's funny. You own the circles and this is the Venn diagram where they overlap.
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A
Yeah. So, like, someone could get in and get a taste of all those circles right here if that's what they wanted to do. Like, if you wanted to get a bunch of elements that I love in a watch put together smartly in one place, this is it. It's a great watch. And I've met the people. A quick, quick set. Micro adjust clasp. Love it.
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C
Yeah.
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A
Yeah. And so that's a cool one. I really like that one. This one is called Solabs. And this is the watch I bought.
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C
Oh, you bought a watch I bought.
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A
This is the. I only. I limited myself to one and only if I absolutely fell in love with it and had it. This is called so Labs. It's listed here for 1300. I got it for under a thousand for show special. But this actually is this dial. The pink One?
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C
Yeah, this is like a pink and purple.
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A
Yeah. Wait, they have it. It comes in other colors. The one I got, the one I'm getting has the blue, but this chrome. This chrome. I must have sent you the wrong color. But this chrome bracelet, it really reminds me of the Ikopod stuff from the 90s. The Mark Newson stuff. No, that's the day one go up. This one's called the day two, which is this guy. So what's so cool about this watch? I mean, the dial is super funky. You gotta love it. The bracelet is super funky, shiny chrome. And then it actually has a day date. Excuse me? It has a date movement in it. But as you can see on the dial, there is no date. The big triangle is the hour hands. The hollow triangle is the minute hands. And the one behind it is the seconds, actually. But no, there's another hand behind. Right. But yeah, that's the seconds. But you see the gradient disc that you can see through the dial. So that's actually the date wheel. But instead of showing a date, it's a full gradient. So every day the gradient color looks a little different. Every day it looks a little different.
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C
That's a very cool idea.
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A
And as soon as I picked this up, I went, absolutely. Just like the Myers Manx. I was like, absolutely. This is the one. Super funky.
- [36:42]
C
Yeah, that's right. Cool. I like these kind of art piece things. Like, I like the Ika pot or whatever. Yeah, yeah.
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A
I think they're very cool because a lot of the. These micro brands, they exist sort of in the middle. They have elements that are inspired by other brands, you know, And. And oh, by the way, it comes with this desk clock.
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C
Really?
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A
Yeah.
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C
Oh, that's cool.
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A
That desk clock is sick. Yeah, I might be. I might time the show with that. So how fun is that piece? Look at that. I mean, that's just.
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C
That's really rad.
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A
Super funky, right? So this is. This is a little more avant garde. But I think it. If it reminds me, there's a. A watch by a guy, Nick, called Alan Silberstein that's almost very. It's. It's cartoony, but it's Bow House. And this is like that. It's very fun. So I bought one of those. That's gonna be. That's gonna be fun. I think that's gonna be my quail watch.
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C
That's a good quail.
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A
It's a good. For the. With Manx, it's gonna be party time.
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C
Because if you go fancy, there's so many People there that have way more money and are far fancier.
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A
I can't fucking outreach those people. Forget it. No, no, nothing. I got even. They even would register on their radar. It's either aquanaut or. Excuse me, Arcanaut. Sorry, buddy. I. I apologize, James, for saying aquanaut rather than arcana. You know, with the Fortnite dial, it's E. It's got to be silly. So this one, I've never heard of this brand before. They're called Strom S T R A U M. And I love a fabulous dial. And these things rip. They glow. They have. They have gradients. They have these sort of carved brass dials that almost look like waves or, or drippings of paint. And they come in all these different dial colors. I think I only pulled up. These are. This was 1700. I think they were 1500 at the show. But if you go up at the top menu there, Zach, all those Jan Mayan down a little bit, all of those are completely different and fun colors. Like, look at that. Look at that burst one from the center. So these guys are. These guys are doing dial work that I would say not quite Grand Seiko level. The precision of Grand Seiko isn't quite there, but certainly the expressiveness and the use of color black and the fact that it's incredible.
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C
This looks like the three dimensional. Like the dial looks like snow. Right, right. Like terrace of. Or not terrace, like the terrain of the moon or something.
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A
Yeah. And so there's a whole look at the. Look at some of the Arctic ones or some of the other ones are really, really beautiful. And integrated, integrated bracelets and well integrated straps. Some are titanium, some are steel. There was some other, like special edition. The basalt ones are really cool. Cool with these basalt dials, isn't that cool? Like, looks like Mars. So I really liked these. So these, you know, these at the show were 1500, which I thought it was. I thought, man, if I. But I do have the Grand Seikos also. Oh yeah. So there's these different colors or these tundras. Apparently the folks behind this brand go on a lot of camping, long camping expeditions, camping trips. And they get color inspirations from.
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C
From that I understand, which is a.
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A
Very Grand Seiko thing to do. But I thought these were very handsome. They use a quality movement and if you like a big blast on a dial, this is what's up.
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C
I love the gradient. I mean, that's what I like to notice. I just like having the color shift a little, even if you don't move.
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A
So that's a really cool one. This one, not a new brand. I've seen these on the Internet a bunch, but this is the first time I got to try them on Studio Underdog. Really cool brand. Doing very cool stuff with colors.
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C
Oh, I follow these guys.
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A
Their shit is themed like avocado and watermelon and pizza and stuff like that out of England using a variety of components from different countries. I think their movements are from Asia. But this new one, the salmon. So these are fucking sick looking in person. I love them. But they only come in two sizes, like 34 and 37 millimeter. That's 40.
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C
Whoa. Smaller than that.
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A
Oh, excuse me. That's 41.
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C
Wow.
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A
So they're small and they're thin, you know, so if you. It's the kind. It's the size that you or I would wear with a suit. But you wouldn't wear this with a suit. I mean, unless it was like a really fun suit, I guess. But like, it's not. This isn't a formal watch. I'd wear it out at fun times. I thank God if they make a 40 or a 41 of this. Take my money.
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C
Yeah.
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A
I loved looking at these. They're so cool. This one is a mono pusher chronograph, which means rather than having a stop start and a reset button, it's all on one. Stop start, reset is on one button. But a bunch of really fun colors and special collabs and like that. Really cool.
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C
There we go. I think I started following you talking about them all once and I thought it was such a cool way to get these real rad bursts of color. But then finding out how small they were, I was like, oh, that doesn't even, even my wrist. Like that would just look a little small.
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A
It would look a little small on you. You could, you could probably pull it.
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C
Off under a suit would be okay.
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A
Yeah, yeah. But if you have a smaller wrist, definitely. Check these out. These, these things. You can wear one of these in a room full of heavy hitters. Like people rocking six figure shit in a room. You walk up in one of these, one of these really good, good colors, and people will be asking you to take that shit off and pass it around the room. Guaranteed 100% cool for these are about. I think these are about 2,500. They're a little over the threshold. But again, this shit will get you a seat at the table with big boy. And the other ones that I brought up so far will not necessarily do that. This one, these I liked. I never really experienced the brand Stella before and they have a bunch of beautiful dials. Scroll down. Because we're just looking at the back of one, what we call linen dials. The dials are. They're different colors of what looks like linen fabric and in some cases actually is. I mean, look at that. Isn't that nice? I mean you love a good texture dial. You don't see it as much in the darker blue or the black, but the light gray linen, the white linen, this light blue linen is exceptional. And these are also very affordable. They are not super expensive. I mean they're $1000. 1100 1085. They were like 950 at the show. But I just think that's a great looking dial with it's got applied indices meaning the, like the notice the numbers and the hour markers are placed. They're extra bits that go on top of the dial. They're not painted on the dial. It's a higher end thing to do. But I just, you know, if you're gonna wear a cool watch, I think a dial that draws you in and keeps your attention. That's why I like these textures and colors and so I think this is just very, very handsome and would be a good versatile, goes with any outfit kind of vibe.
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C
Yeah, that's rad. Yeah, I'm into it.
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A
Yeah, I think that was at the last one. I think that was all five, right? Was there another one?
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C
That was all of it.
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A
Yeah, that was all cool. So, you know, it's. I think they're doing, they're doing other Intersect shows. Louisiana isn't the only one, but LA is every July. I went last year and it was like double the size this year, so super sick. Great place to really try, try stuff on. And, and you know, a lot of the people behind the booth for the founders of the brand, it's not like they just sent some fucking person. You know, you're talking to the head of the, of the brand sometimes, so. And, and we sold a bunch of watches too, so that's pretty cool. Got the video from Mike down at Manx Cars running.
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C
Cool.
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A
He, he got me some aviation inspired seatbelts which sounds very fun. The wheels came back from powder coat. They look good. It sounds, it sounds almost like they, they should maybe be driving it soon, if not like tomorrow.
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C
Sure. It's imminent, right?
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A
Yeah.
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C
I mean it's got seatbelts and it's running and we saw it, it had suspension on it.
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A
Oh yeah. No, when I last saw it, I went down with Gibran after you. And like the, the. Everything was in other than like steering wheel seats and like the rest of it was like there. And they were just waiting for some software guy to which obviously they have sorted, so. How exciting.
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C
Very cool. Speaking of cars that are almost done, have you seen the new Faraday future?
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A
So I got invited to go to this thing multiple times and did not go. And actually I now am sad I didn't go.
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C
I regret not going because when I saw it on Instagram, I was like, I would have laughed so hard.
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A
I know, I know.
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C
But I also am glad I didn't go down because it was a pain in the ass downtown in the evening and it's a terrible car.
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A
You know, I regret not going to the cybertruck launch. I regret, you know, these catastrophic disasters that we got invited to and other people go and tell us what is. And I go, oh, man, I would have loved to see a fucking crash in my life.
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C
It's like going to a demolition derby. Like, it should have gone. Should have gone.
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A
Yeah, because pull up a picture of the car, though. Cause it's hilarious. Was there something you wanted to. You were saying there was something you wanted to show me. Was it. Oh, these are photos from the launch.
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C
I mean, there's a couple things. I discovered new things while looking for the thing I wanted to show you.
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A
Faraday Future. Faraday FX Super 1, which is the most Chinese name the big story with.
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C
This, because for people listening to the audio. Don't worry, you won't be left out. Think of a minivan. Great. You got it. It's a tall minivan. It has a television screen where the grill should be. That's one of the stories. I've discovered more stories in this research.
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A
This is like Xzibit had to walk.
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C
So you.
- [47:16]
A
Yes. So that Faraday is over here going, you gotta be motherfucking shit.
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C
I mean, the, the. The marketing copy they have for this makes it sound like this is snake oil. Like it's. They. They pitch it as.
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A
It's an AI screen. Right. There's some. Something. There's AI in the screen.
- [47:35]
C
That will be your friend, companion, all this stuff. If I can find. I couldn't find the video I wanted.
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A
To show you as Tamagotchi.
- [47:42]
C
Yes, it is exactly that. And then there's AI in the pictures. I noticed. Because. Because what is wrong with this picture, Matt? I mean, there's a couple things.
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A
Wait a minute.
- [47:53]
C
But let's look for.
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A
Okay, well, one person's partying, one person's working. Does the does the woman in the white dress have a left arm?
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C
I don't believe she does.
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A
Is that what I'm looking for?
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C
No, I actually was looking at something else which is even funnier. The woman on the right. Look at the length of her wrist and hand. It's the same length as her forearm.
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A
So, like, I could potentially, just potentially say that maybe they shot this on like a 9 millimeter fish eye. Like they were shooting a cover for a Ramon.
- [48:33]
C
Like a skateboard video. I would agree with you, except that the woman on the left, her hair and face are like normal size.
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A
Right.
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C
And the woman on the right is also out of face. Focus. Her face is out of focus and it's like stretched.
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A
She does. Her hand is about.
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C
She has ostriches. Yeah, yeah. So that was something that popped out at me. And then when you go down, you see.
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A
Wait, is that person's legs a little too long? Look how long that person's. I mean, that seems like just super wide angle lens. But their legs are. Did they might. That person might have had leg lengthening surgery. I mean, serious.
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C
Gentlemen, let's see where. So here's another picture of the screen. What now? For people listening, it's a minivan on a red carpet. And then it says Best Actress on the front. On the front screen, they're delivering, like.
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A
They'Re gonna deliver the Oscar winner in.
- [49:30]
C
The grand entrance for your life. And then like, the copy is just, this is the champion's car. You know, drive, arrive, recharged and ready for your next.
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A
I mean, look, I'll go back to the. Go back to the possibly AI guy lounging in the car.
- [49:42]
C
Sure.
- [49:43]
A
Like, let's try to be nice. Those look like pretty dope captain's chairs.
- [49:48]
C
They do. They're massaging.
- [49:50]
A
Cooled seats, quilted. But ultimately, what you've done there is made a minivan.
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C
Right.
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A
That already exists from what I gather in China as something else.
- [50:03]
C
Oh, this van. I don't know if they're building this van or if they're just rebranding this van.
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A
Well, no, I read several articles about this. I don't remember the name of it because I can't remember the Chinese names of stuff sometimes. And I apologize for my racism there, but it's a Chinese van that already exists as a Chinese van. It's just that now it has, like, captain's chairs and the screen.
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C
So. So is Faraday like, what is it? It's like the Mitsubishi Starion or something. Like, are they saying if they're bringing this to America, saying This is our van, and it's actually someone else's van. This is the Kirkland van.
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A
This might be how they sneak Chinese cars into America.
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C
Like, assuming this van's allowed to be sold in America. Because if it's a Chinese van anyway, it might not be. It's like, if they rebranded a BYD as Faraday, and the customs agent was like, we still aren't letting you in. Like, the screen on the front. What are we doing? Why are we doing it?
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A
Dude, my kingdom to have been in the fucking room when they were like. And turn on. Turn on the front screen. Like, okay. AI like, talked like, get the fuck out of here.
- [51:20]
C
I can't.
- [51:21]
A
Show me some influencers, though. Weren't some influencers there. Wait, that's Fireflies. That is. Okay, so here we have.
- [51:29]
C
This is great.
- [51:30]
A
Here we have a couple with a young child sitting in a field with a cooler. Add some fruit on it. A bottle of wine. No wine glasses.
- [51:44]
C
It should be said that the mother and daughter are also holding microphones.
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A
Mother and daughter are holding microphones. And the. What do we call a front screen?
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C
A green.
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A
To figure that out. I'm gonna workshop that a little bit. Well, the front screen is in fireplace mode. Like, occasionally you'll have the Yule log going.
- [52:06]
C
Yeah, they're doing that and singing. And I guess there might be a kid on the mom's lap. I see a leg.
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A
It might just be an extra AI leg.
- [52:15]
C
It could just be an extra. But.
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A
But the question is, what is when you're outdoors? Like, not when you're indoors in your living room, but when you're outdoors? The purpose of a fire is usually the heat it provides, not just the looking at the like is what's funny. Is this a desirable existence for anybody to sit in front of your van with a Yule log on. On possibly doing karaoke?
- [52:45]
C
Well, is this an EV or is this a gas car?
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A
I believe this is an ev.
- [52:49]
C
Okay, because if it was a gas car, what you just said would actually be hilarious because the front of the car might actually be quite warm. And then you could do a good.
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A
Impression of the fireplace if it had heater mode.
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C
Yeah.
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A
Well, look, I don't want to discount that this car has heater mode. There could be some smart people there. And I might be prejudging a book by its horrible Instagram post.
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C
I will judge a car that has a TV screen on the front of it. I'll do it for you. I'll take this bullet.
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A
Would you feel better or worse if. When you put the yule log on, it blew a really nice layer of warm heat at you.
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C
Better?
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I think I'd feel better.
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C
It would then be somewhat functional.
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A
Yeah, I'd feel better.
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C
And this is like. Is this the tailgate? Now what's funny is like here, if you had put them gathered around in a football game on the screen, way more, you get much more attention. That's what we want to do. Park the car and then tailgate at the front of them it. But not near the back where the snacks are.
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Why would you want a tailgate?
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C
Why? Why is such a great question.
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Well, no, I'll tell you what. If there, if the, There's a frunk behind the screen, like if that van pop, if the hood pops up in that van and that could be your cooler and you could. You know what I mean? That we're talking. Yeah, I don't know if it does. Anyway.
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C
Anyway.
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A
God. Screens on the front of cars stink, though.
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C
It just like any accident, any accident, pretty much it's gonna have a problem with it and they gotta replace it.
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Imagine you're like, you're like five mile an hour, like parking lot, fender bender. And they're like, that'll be $7,000.
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C
Three days ago, four days ago, I was on the 405. It was. Traffic was moving about 10 miles an hour. And I just hear a clunk next to me and a guy driving a dish Discovery, Dish, you know, saddle installation van, rear ended. A couple driving touareg and it was just like, he was right. I didn't see him looking at his phone, but like, that's probably what was happening because that's what everyone's moving, but not quite fast enough to pay full attention. And if that guy had had a screen on the front saying sign up for dish now 5% off. He would have broken that screen and.
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A
Hit this car, covered someone in radioactive goo.
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C
This is just so funny. And look, people can reinvent themselves. I believe in the system. People can go to jail, get a doctorate, come out, be a lawy. But this company has been trying to make a car or saying they're gonna make a car for how long?
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Well, apparently they really did produce that first car. They just only sold like 10.
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C
Did they try to sell more than.
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I don't. I don't know.
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C
But that's speculation.
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That's what, that's what actually happened. In terms of just facts. They sold that many.
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C
I feel like it's hard to sell that few.
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It is. It really is.
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Is so that I guess I guess that confused me. Maybe they're just gonna, like, you know, let's try something else. Let's try minivans. Let's give that a shot.
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I just.
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C
The ideas are wild to me.
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Look at that one with the golf bags on the top left there. Are those golf bags standing?
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C
Those are vertical.
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People load golf bags vertically like that. I guess.
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C
I guess. Is the van that tall? How tall is a golf bag? Once with clothes, clubs in it? Four feet.
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A golf bag with clubs. That's probably four. Four feet, yeah.
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C
All right.
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I mean, I guess you one could load their van with the golf bags vertically. I've just. I've never seen that done. I've always seen them stacked like logs horizontally. I've never seen someone build a wall, a vertical wall of golf clubs in the back of a van before.
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C
Why is the van in, like, intruding onto this gentleman's bicep tendon right here? Well, none of these people are standing next to.
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A
Maybe because that's AI people standing next to an AI van. Yeah, but. But like, the screen is powered by AI. Why shouldn't the marketing be.
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C
That is such a great note. That's a great. I wish I could find the video where it talks to people. It's so funny. Anyway, that's. Anyway.
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A
Oh, and Mariah Carey's there.
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C
Well, she. They said. Said that their concept car was in her music video. Of course, I don't know when.
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A
Type Dangerous is electric. Yeah. Right.
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C
They're FF01.
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Yeah. So that was the. That was the one that they sold 12 of. That's it right there on the left.
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C
This thing. Yeah, she had this in her new video. In a new video.
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A
That's. Oh, that's FF 91 1. I don't know who. I don't know. Yikes. All of it. Oh, FF. Oh, FF01.
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C
There you go.
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A
Excuse me.
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C
F0 is right. I mean, this looks like no one, almost no one listening is young enough to have played that or old enough to have played that game.
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But F0 ruled.
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C
It was awesome. It was incredible.
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A
Do you know how long it took me to put together that F0? It was like. Like F1 but zero.
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C
I didn't know that until now. Really? No.
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Yes. I was dumber than me.
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C
Oh, definitely.
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Yeah. It was like f1 but zero, so.
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C
It shouldn't be f because zero gravity. Oh, but the cars were. Gravity was.
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The cars. Oh, they flew, though.
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C
No, they have 0. F0, but they were on the ground, I thought. And then you hit jumps.
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I thought they Were like hovery.
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C
Maybe they were hovering. But also I think to your point, it goes F4, 3, 2, 1 is the best. So F0 beyond that sure makes sense.
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A
Yeah. It took me a very long time to get that. Yeah. This can, this can go away.
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C
All right. We could talk about something.
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A
We got a few cars. West side is. Dude, this M3. Eric's M3 is going to end if this goes up tomorrow. It goes ends Tuesday at like 2 o' clock PM. This is like the cleanest BMW F80 M3 ever with like choice mods and BBS wheels and all the stock parts also. Yeah, it's probably gonna go for like 42 to 45, I think. I hope a lot of action on it already. A lot of bidders.
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C
Eric takes care of his plane like an airline takes care of their plane. But he never flies it anywhere. So it's, it's like perfectly maintained and looks amazing.
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A
Yeah.
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C
Like it's got great mods on it and no one's kicked the out of it. Like.
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A
And then we got a really nice 7,000 mile Boxster GT in Aventurine with a chalk interior, manual gearbox, 7,000 miles. Really good, good clean. DME report service history. One owner Car very nice. Take that motherfucker to wine country all day. And Aventurine is a very fun color. It was Not PTS in 2021 when this was new, but it is PTS now now. So to replicate this car now would probably cost you about 125 to $130,000. And this one will probably, I'm hoping will go for 85, 85, 90. I'm not saying what the reserve is, but that's kind of where I hope to end up. And then we just put this one up. Z4M Coupe in Sepang Bronze rare color. It's got 80,000 miles on it, but tons of service history going back I think all the way to new. Really well taken care of. Great color. It's got an exhaust on it, catback exhaust. That is apparently a very desirable type of catback exhaust. I forget what it is, but I drove it. It sounds really nice. Sundstrom, does that sound right? Is that a BMW?
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C
Oh, Stromung Strawmung.
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A
Yeah, it sounds great. Nice bass, not too raspy. And it has not had the. What do you call it done the rod bearings. But it has a super clean recent Blackstone thing. The owner is a lunatic and has gotten Blackstone reports every year. So he said I brought up like the rod bearings and he was like my Mechanic insists we not do it until it's necessary. All right, man, cool. Like whatever. But good clean on it. I'll call it driver plus. You know, it's an 80,000 mile car, but it presents very, very well. And it's in a rare and desirable color combination.
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C
Yeah, cool.
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A
Yeah. You do not see a lot of sepang bronze. The last like 25 on bat have been silver, black or white. So anyway, those are up now. Go bid if you're into those. And they're of course available at WCCS for inspection seven days a week. Although by the time you hear this, you probably won't have time to see that BMW W. But trust me, that one is a says should we go to the people before we do? Oh man. So the, the, the, the headache that I have had to deal with with re importing my engine. I have had to tell like 12 different people. Like so many people people. I am not a business, I am just a guy. I am not an importer. I am just a guy. I do not, I do not plan to import more of anything. I'm just a guy. The thing I'm importing, I already own. I sent it out, matter of fact. You fucking sent it out. Like this is like the shipping company that I used to send it to. There is now like totally confused about bringing it back because the fucking exporting people and the importing people are different people that like don't talk to each other. I swear to God, this is the seinfeldiest stupidest shit ever. But like the number of the forms that I have to fill out where it's like they want like business documents and like, because they're trying to like set you up to like be an importer of good goods. Which I'm not.
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C
Right? You just want to be.
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A
I don't, I'm not. I don't want to be. I'm a guy who sent his engine somewhere to get worked on. And now that very same engine that your, your company sent for me is coming back.
- [63:15]
C
Who owns your car? You own your car? Like it's not registered.
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A
Like, yeah, me. Matthew. Matthew Vera.
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C
Right, then that should, should be simple. I guess it is.
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A
Well, the engine doesn't even need to be connected to the car. But like, yeah, it's like it's it. They have documentation from whatever last summer that this engine, engine number blah blah blah blah blah in this gearbox number blah blah blah blah blah, were shipped in this crate to this place. One year later, that same shit is going back the other way. Like should Be simple. That's it.
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C
Yeah.
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And I was like, they're having me fill out all these forms and says, you know, tariff code, tariff class. And I'm like calling this guy up going, hey man, listen, the tariff on this needs to be zero. This is my stuff. And the guy was like, okay, but like, you know, like, what do you mean? I was like, I am having a car restored. I shipped my engine to Italy, they rebuilt it, it's now coming back. And the guy was like, oh, so like, wait, you already own the thing? I go, yeah. And he goes, oh, okay, well I'm gonna have to send you a different form of like, dude, like, just please, like, you have to understand this is all my stuff.
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C
Yeah, you're not importing anything.
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And like, apparently this is some kind of commercial level importer that like regular people don't go to. It was recommended by our friend who has the business and I. And it was very easy going that way. There was not. I mean, I had to fill out a couple pieces of paperwork. That's it. This. But. But there's just no communication. So like, I think they finally understand that I actually own this thing already and I shouldn't be paying taxes on it.
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C
So.
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A
But like, holy.
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C
I bet they're dealing with a lot of different emails and phone calls these days. And you're getting. You're just getting caught up in the wash, man.
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A
There were also surprise my parents when we went to Italy, we went to this place called Murano that's known for the glass blowing. You should have come in when you were over the house to see it.
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C
Where, which city is that in?
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In Venice. It's one of the islands. Venice, the city of Venice is made of a bunch of islands. One of these islands is a famous legendary for 500 years glass blowing.
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C
I went there, okay. I think I went there when I was 12.
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A
If you went to Venice, it's a thing that like everybody does. It's cool as. I mean it's like, it's really rad. So we went and you know, look around and my mother, because of course is buying a bunch of glass as you would when you're there. When I went, when I was 12, she bought a bunch of glass. Then her bong collection is ripping tubes.
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C
It is awesome.
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Ripping tubes. My mother all the time. You should see the hue when she. It glows from the inside. It's really. But yeah, surprise fucking tariff. When that arrived at customs, they held that shit hostage. And I called my mom. No problem. Hey, just so you know, I wasn't. You know, I was saying, because she got. She's expecting a package, too. Her package is quite a bit bigger than my package. And I was like, just so you know, expect. And she was like, oh, well, they said that there wouldn't be tariffs. And I said, well. Well, they are either stupid or lying because by the time there's tariffs, guess what? You've bought the thing, you're already home and this shit's sitting in customs, you know?
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C
Right, Yeah. I don't know how that works. Yeah, I don't know there, but I don't know.
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A
I don't know. But the tariff wasn't small.
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C
Nope, it was big. Yeah.
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A
So, yeah, it's very pretty, though. This piece of glass glows in the dark, too. Literally.
- [67:11]
C
Really?
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A
Yeah. I'm so childish. The one I wanted glows in the dark.
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C
Wow, that's cool. Yeah, it's awesome, actually.
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A
It has a tritium in it. Oh, tritium dust. I don't. Wait, I think it's tritium dust. Yeah. That they grind tritium dust into the glass.
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C
That makes sense.
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A
Yeah.
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C
That's super cool.
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A
Yeah. It's crazy. You should have seen it there when we went. And we were in the galley gallery. And they fucking go, you want to see this? And, you know, everything's beautifully lit and whatever, like, oh, it's also beautiful. And they go. And lower the shades and then hit all the lights and the whole fucking room glows in the dark. It's crazy. Yeah, it was awesome. Yeah, it's really. It's a fucking jellyfish in an orb that glows in the dark. It's crazy.
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C
You have pictures of it to show me later?
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A
I. Yeah, all right.
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C
Yeah, show me later.
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A
I'll. Yeah, I can.
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C
Yeah, I have tritium on something, but it doesn't. It's not a glass sculpture, but it could help me get a glass sculpture if I really want one.
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A
Hey, man, put this in some jellyfish. Let's go to the fucking people. And of course, this show, if you're in Texas today, this will go up Thursday, right?
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C
Yes, correct.
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If you're in Houston today, we're going to be at the Shop Club tonight, Houston, Texas. And tomorrow night, July 25, in Dallas, Texas, at the Shop Club with Christian James Hand doing the show live. There are a few tickets remaining for both, so come out and see us. Have a beer with the boys. We got exclusive posters. We're gonna be signing. We got some TST merch. We're gonna be signing and we're taking pictures and Hanging out and bullshitting about cars and listening to Kristen James Hand show. Which is all. Which is actually why I'm going to Texas. So. Yeah. But anyway, do that. Please come see us. And of course the Patreon is where it is. Oh, the screen is turned off, Zach. The Patreon is where it's all going down. If you want to ask us questions for the show, if you want to listen to the show live, if you want to listen to the show before everybody else, if you want to listen to the show without ads, if you want to get extra show, if you want to get early access to limited edition merch and collabs, that's where it's all going down. Patreon.patreon.com the Smokingtirepodcast okay. Machine Gun Kelly Blue Book. That's a fucking heavy name right there.
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C
That's a good one.
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Always. If those people out there want an easy guide to coming up with a great name. Contraction. Turn two things into one thing. The word Kelly overlaps you. Turn two things into one thing. That's a great way to come up with a great name. If you're not super creative on your own, start with that framework. Oh, wants to talk about the roof that fell off the carrier. Do you think more damage was done to the chassis or the driver's seat? I mean, that picture is fucking hilarious. Oh, following a trip to Germany for fresh paint too. Oh, that stinks.
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C
And the driver's seat comment is because the, you know, whoever's transporting it is sitting in the driver's seat backed it up. I mean, the thing fell.
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A
Sucks, to be honest with you. Like, we don't have another angle. We just have this one side profile and like, to be honest, it doesn't look that bad. Like it really doesn't look that. That bad.
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C
It doesn't. But I think that might be because the exhaust is probably holding up the. Like, I think the engine probably took some of the hit. The bumper took some of the hit.
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A
Yeah. I don't know, the engine might have been pretty well protected. I mean it, it didn't. It doesn't look that crunched in at the back. I mean the bumper's definitely. Maybe the exhaust. I mean, it's possible the engine took a hit, but like all in all, it doesn't look that bad. Like it's not like it fell off on its roof. Haha. Lol. But it did. It fell off on its roof.
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C
How does this happen? I mean you've got like a ramp here. Did the ramp start going up There as this person was backing up. That is very strange.
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A
It's. I don't know. That's is a fucking hilarious picture though. Gold mine for who got that.
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C
Day.
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And also look, look at the Instagram account that you. That they have sent. They've chosen to share Tim a rank the following cars based on engagement as drivers. Cars M5 Touring, RS6, Porsche Cayenne GTS Cayenne number one, M5 number two, RS6 number three. But it's almost like the inverse of that. Like, if you talk about like ride quality for everyday drive, like, which one would I actually want to drive every day? It's probably Rs6, then Cayenne, then M5. Like the M5 sucks at most things and we'll get to that in the next show. But if you really want to turn it into a corner hard, it does that. It does the hardcore driver stuff, like pretty well. It's just. It's the rest of it that's so bad that you have to live with every day.
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C
I. The last time I drove an RS6 on the road was years ago in Malibu. I remember it being stiff. The RS6 Avant GT I drove had great turn in and dynamics for being such a heavy car. Like it was better than the gts. And the GTS is very good because I drove one of those last year. I think I haven't driven the M5 quickly yet, but I think I would go ride RS6 Avant GT above Porsche Cayenne GTS.
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Yeah. James May's Big Brown Beaver, which I like. Heaven forbid something happened to the Countach. What would I buy at pebble for equal value? Pebble's a bad place to shop. Everything is expensive there. But shit. Let's. What do you want to say? Let's say I could get 750 for the countach.
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C
Oh, I know what you're getting.
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A
You know what I'm getting for 750 for 4 GT.
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C
You're gonna get a 4 GT, quick silver.
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Quick silver. For a quick silver 4 GT. That would probably be. Man. But that would feel like a downgrade because that's. Those are great, but they wouldn't. That doesn't feel like a million dollar experience.
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C
Then you go career GT.
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You're not getting one for 750. You're not. No. Career GTS. Doug spent 1.6 on his nose. Yeah.
- [73:52]
C
Oh, my God. I thought they were still three quarter depending on mileage.
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A
Them's expensive. That's actually a. Kind of a tough place to be is 750.
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C
You're not I'm just gonna Google violin music. Really?
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A
No, no, I don't mean.
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C
I know. I know that.
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A
I just mean, like, it's like the comps are really weird. Like, you could buy a great. A great, but not exceptional 60s for a Ferrari GT, like, touring car. You could buy a fabulous, fabulous 356 Speedster or a 356 Coupe and get into, like, events like the Colorado grand and stuff. You get an Emory car. You get one of those crazy Emory outlaw cars. That'll get you. That'll get you in the club there.
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C
Because then you get some speed. Because the three.
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A
To be perfectly honest, I would use the money on a down payment for a Singer Turbo and find the rest of it later is probably what I do and figure out what else I could sell or however else I could pay for that is probably if I found myself with an insurance check for that much money, I would call Maz and go, I'll see you in the morning. Time to build me a car.
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C
Mm.
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A
Because that's. You just stop after that.
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C
Yeah. Like that's a good idea.
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A
Unless you could. If I could get an ST for a number starting with a 5 and then put the rest in the bank and be. And go. Okay. Tap down.
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C
Yeah. Because that also feels very special.
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A
Yeah. And I. And I wouldn't have to go finding more money.
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C
Yeah. And you wouldn't have to wait three years.
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A
Mm. But if I had three years, I could find the rest of the money.
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C
That's a good point.
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I could. In three years, I could find that money. Yeah. Lock shock, Darrell. Oh, see, that's a pretty good one. But it should be lock shock and two smoking Darrels.
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C
It should be lock, stock and two smoking Darrels.
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A
Yeah. But I like where your head is at. Thoughts on the doxa sub 300t. Have you ever owned one? I own a doxa 1000t. Ooh. Mine is a bigger number.
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C
I don't even know what these are. I thought this was Doxa van.
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A
Yeah. Doxas are great. Doxa is a. Is a dive watch, tool watch, vintage vibes. It was a vintage. They were making them in the. In the 60s, 70s, 80s. The preferred watch of a guy you might have heard of named Jacques Cousteau. And they have very cool, bright colored dials on some of their models. Their orange is very well known. The yellow is very well known. I like this turquoise joint you've got got up. Mine has a black dial. My uncle is a. Was a Navy diver and is like a. Is a Pretty hardcore scuba diver. Mine looks like the one on the right. It's the, the shark hunter with the black dial. And he gave me that watch as a gift because he's got like 15 doxas and I, I expressed interest in, in Doxa so he gave me that and I sent him the. He wanted the blue notice Canyon Night sky number one. So I traded him.
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C
Cool.
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A
A notice for a Doxa. But I think these are very cool watches. And I wear, I wear that. It wasn't a brand I thought about much before my uncle gave me the watch but now that I have it, I wear it all the time. It's really comfortable, it's really well made.
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C
Can I ask?
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A
Yeah.
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C
Is there a function like is there a functional reason for the like flare out around the bezel thing or is it just for style?
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It's, it's mostly for style. And they do have some watches that don't have a smaller dial than a case. There's some where it's full, full width but that's like the vintage look, the sort of cushion case.
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C
Gotcha.
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A
Yeah. I do love me a Doxa though. That's a good watch. Too loud for Laguna. That's a good name too. In Japan the authorities have speed cameras to catch violators. Then they have devices that ping the violators phone so they can track them down and arrest them. How long until the Texas government uses a similar system to catch fleeing roll racers? You know what's so funny about Texas, didn't you? Was it you sent me that story that Texas was the least free state?
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C
Actually it wasn't the least free but like it ranked. Oh wait, it was the least free. It was the least free peer research thing. And they looked at a bunch of stuff like religion. I mean they looked at everything like. And I'm citing the things that were specific to California, but it was like can you use marijuana? What's the religion like, what's the restrictions like on abortion? Like basically everything.
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A
Yeah.
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C
And Texas was the least free.
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A
Yeah.
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C
Turns out it's like BLM and open land and permitting things like. I don't know, there's a bunch of stuff. But on that list. Yes.
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So yeah. It would be the. Probably the first to you to become a total surveillance state in that regard. That stuff they do, what this person just described also happens in the Middle East a lot. Thaddeus used to describe that kind of thing happening.
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C
Cameras everywhere.
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A
Yeah. Like if you even tried to do a thing, they just show up at your door.
- [79:02]
C
Yeah. They just track you backwards they would.
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Use the cameras to follow you home. And our friend worked for a well known computer company over there and confirmed that that was in fact true because he was the one maintaining the servers for that.
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C
Sorry. Cato Institute said that Texas was found to be the state with the least personal, fewest personal freedoms. Is Adam yelling at us?
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A
Is Adam yelling at us? Hang on. Hello? There was a exploded fire hydrant across the street from the the shop. Fun times.
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C
It's a geyser.
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Yeah. Okay, where were we? Sorry about that. Chris from Colorado says Carrera t question. The 991.2s go for around a buck 20. Do they deserve to be trading at over their MSRP which was 100k back in 2018. Well, the dollar is worth 25% less than it was was worth since then. So at that, if you adjust for inflation appropriately, they've really held their value. And if you account for the tariffs on the new product and they maintain their desirability, you know. Yeah. And not all carrera tees are 120k. That's a pretty nice one.
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Yeah.
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You can get a 2018 Carrera T for less than that. Because our friend Dean Del Rey did get himself a Carrera T. Oh, he did? Yeah. He was dreaming of it for years.
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Years.
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And got his ass a Carrera tape.
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I was going to safari it, Dean.
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I told him to.
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But yeah. Inflation calculator. 100 grand in 2018 is $128,000 right now.
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So there.
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Vice versa.
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There ye's go. Hot dog. Bathroom enthusiast. There we go. Thank you very much. Doug said. Doug Demuro said the Infiniti QX80 looks like a Land Cruiser that's underwater. That's pretty funny. I used to call the Infinity qx's the Beluga Whales. That was the. The common, the colloquial name. Land Cruiser that's underwater I think is funny because it's more like looking like a waviness. It's like an out of focus Land Cruiser. But what are the best examples of something looking like a worse version of a more popular competitor? Almost all Infinity Q45s were just worse version of Lexus LS4 hundreds. Except the very first one. The very first Q45 was almost a legitimate Lexus competitor. And I think it did beat the Lexus in sales for one year. What else is a. The Ford Explorer flagrantly copying the Range Rover design.
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Yes. Yeah. Like from blinkers. So many things. The wraparound stuff.
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Yeah.
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If you put a cover on both, both of them, you see what they did there, that's a good one.
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Who else did a much worse job.
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Of, In a way, C8, Corvette, Ferrari, but not. It's its own thing. Oh, that's only under a cover. That's not a good one.
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Yeah, I don't know about C8. Who does a.
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Bronco Sport and Bronco. Bronco Sport and Bronco.
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Yeah.
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Awkward teenage years, you know.
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Yeah, I don't know. That's a very tough question. Who did a worse version of the. I mean, actually, I'll counterpoint that. I think the Chrysler 300 in many ways was more attractive than the Rolls Royce Phantom at the time. Just from a pure in 05 when it came to. I think the Chrysler 300 great looking car, did a pretty good job and, and made a little more of a statement even than the Rolls Royce Phantom.
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Well, it was a little bit more aggressive.
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Yeah.
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Some of the edges were just a little harder and it looked really good.
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I mean there is of course the very famous Cat Williams which I say all the time it looked like a Phantom till a Phantom pull up. And he isn't wrong because it wasn't built like a Phantom. And in the beginning, if you remember back to 05 dose 7, all rappers and everybody, they, they treated it like it was a budget Phantom.
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Yep.
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And it's a great line and very accurate. Cat Williams is very smart actually. But, but, but in some ways it did look better than the Phantom, actually. Benjamin Frankenfurter Waymo is currently testing in Philadelphia with a fleet of vehicles driven by safety operations operators. With your experience of going to Penn, how do you think Waymo vehicles are going to be welcomed in the city of brotherly love? Go Birds. So it's the Go Birds that is the, that's the twist. That's the M. Night Shylemont who's from Philly twist is that not just that they're from Philly, but Go Birds means that if the Eagles win the super bowl, all the waymos are going to get lit on fire. That's what Go Birds mean. Because whatever a major sports thing happens in Philly, Eagles win, Eagles lose, Sixers win six. Big, big game. Pick a big game. Whatever happens, if they win, if they lose. Cop cars upside down on fire. Reliable.
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So more reliable than the steel industry reliable.
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Dude, Philly's got that shit online lockdown. So those safety operators are not there to train the drivers. They are there because they're probably armed in case people roll up with Molotov.
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Imagine they say that that's your job, you Know it. It's like you quit your job as a new ice agent because you're too traumatized. And they're like, would you like to work for Waymo? And you go, sure. And they go, your job is to protect this car during a riot.
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Dude, Philly's pretty advanced. That'll be interesting. Philly is a very advanced place to be testing waymos because the roads are. Are heinous. They're so bad.
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But does that matter? The car? I mean, the car? Well, it can't avoid potholes, though.
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No, it tries to avoid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, it use. It uses like, like a lidar scanning thing and it does. It doesn't always succeed, in my experience. Doesn't always succeed, but it does attempt to order. Avoid big potholes. Yeah.
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And Philly's up and zigzagging.
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Yeah. And Philly's not a place where things can't be left unattended. You can't. You feel where things can be left. You just. You don't leave things unattended.
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Has anyone, I wonder, tried to steal the wheels off a Waymo? You know, you throw a couple jacks under it and before it can, you know, robot scoot away, you just go. And then if you.
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Like NASCAR did.
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Yeah. Well, if you get. If you. If people walk up axles in the air, dude.
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But. But it'll have you on so many cameras, people.
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That doesn't. Maybe it can auto open the doors and hit you in the head like a model X.
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Security features, nice cams has been tracking SS1LE for two years, and the only thing that's been getting to me recently is the lack of top end power. I've been looking into going full bolt on headers, intake manifold, etc. After tune, it'll probably be $8,000 or so. Is it worth. Worth it. For an additional 50 horsepower up top. In addition to the badass sound, I think it will fool you into thinking you're going a whole lot faster and you won't actually be going all that much faster at the end of that back straight, is my thought.
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I think. I mean, 50 is a pretty significant amount. And if it like either raises the red line line or the power band moves up a lot, that's great. But I think you'll get bored of that power so quickly, especially if the only place this person is really noticing it is on a straightaway and you're gonna go, oh, now what? So, like, if I could get out of the. The Camaro and into a vet, you know, and take that eight grand and I could get myself into like a track ready vet. That would probably feel faster. I mean, it would. It weighs less, Right? It weighs less. It probably feel faster. And then it's a higher caliber car.
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I agree. 8k into that car. Assuming it's pretty stock. Now sell it while it's stock.
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Also that.
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And then put the money into a different car.
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Yeah. Easier to sell when it's stock.
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Yeah. I can't argue with like a nice sounding Camaro on the track. But that's a lot of money for not a whole lot of room return. I mean, we just drove this. This Porsche. Okay. And for. We'll talk about it on next episode. But. But for effectively $20,000 in. In aftermarket mod modifications, you're getting 250 horsepower. For you to spend $8,000 to get 50 NA. Horsepower is not a good value for money.
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That's BMW power for money. Or that's na Porsche.
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It's air cooled.
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It's air cooled. Na Porsche money. No, it's true.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Like either go. Go all the way, spend 1012 and go supercharger with the. That you need to keep it cool for track work. Effectively turn your car into a ZL1. Right. Do that. Or new car.
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Yeah. And if you love the Camaro, maybe you can go get it.
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Maybe you can get a ZL1.
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Do that. And then, then. Because then you're stock and you can sell it when you want to sell it. But selling something with head. Head work will be more complicated.
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Yeah. The one pothole on the FDR drive. Oh, that one pothole on the FDR drive. Yeah. Pronouncing that right does make all the difference. I know the one you're talking about, motherfucker. My mom and I want to get. Oh, I love where this is going already. My mom and I want to get a convertible to share for cruising and road trips. Now, I. I hope you and your mother have a fucking really good relationship because. Because sharing a car with somebody is a dangerous game. I'll be maintaining it myself. Okay. She's been eyeballing E46,330 CIS and a similar E90. I'm looking at Lexus SC430s and IS250,350 convertibles. Anything else I should be looking at for 10k? Let me just say that so far, your mother actually has much better taste than you here. Lexus SC430s and is convertibles kind of suck.
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They're, you know. Well, it's funny. I'm actually surprised because I see a lot of women in LA driving SC430s.
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They're popular, but that doesn't make them good.
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I agree. It's a Solar, but with a louder engine.
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Yeah. Okay. What are you missing? You're missing a jacket. A Jaguar XK8 you can absolutely get for $10,000.
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C
Sure.
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Do you want one? No. Also Corvettes, you can absolutely get a really nice C4 Corvette automatic convertible for that kind of money. 100%.
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Yeah. I bet if mom's looking at Beamers. I mean, comfort. This is for road trips, so comfort's important. Important. I. I would want a more modern car than a C4 Corvette. And if you're gonna do the work yourself, E46 330ci should be pretty stout.
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I think that would just be a really nice car to drive anyway.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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Or.
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Or if it's an E90. The problem with an E90 is it's. Is it gonna have a hard top? They don't all have retractable hard tops. Right?
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I don't know.
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Didn't some E90 like. Like you want a 328 E90. Is that a soft top or a retractable hard top? Pretty sure it's a soft top.
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Anyway, the E90 was a very sophisticated folding hard.
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Really? Okay. Yeah, you don't want that. E46 330ci is an excellent choice. I mean, maybe Boxsters, but if you're maintaining it yourself, that could be a. I like where your head's at, though. Zach's underdrive pulley. Thoughts on the Ionic 6N I. We can't really have many thoughts on it without driving it. I've already put in requests to drive it. So I imagine if it's like a improved on version of the ionic 5N I will probably like it a lot. Unshitboxed says. Could electric cars have smaller motors that use less electricity and smaller battery packs or the same pack and longer range for 4 to 500 miles? They don't all need to be dragsters. Okay. I thought this too. And this is gas car common sense. Right. If you put a GTI motor in a Bugatti Chiron, couldn't you then go 1000 miles on that same tank of gas? Electric cars don't really work like that. The same. Same. The high powered motor, the motor itself that outputs 1000 horsepower doesn't take any more to run or to output 100 horsepower than a motor that puts out 200 horsepower. They're like the same. And the motors themselves are small, relatively lightweight, and Relatively affordable. So the incremental cost of making it a thousand horsepower doesn't take away from its range. The other thing that you need to make a thousand horsepower is also a huge battery pack, which is what you need for range anyway. So you could buy. There's no such thing really as if you, well, if you have the horsepower, wouldn't you double the range? Like no, it doesn't, it doesn't actually work like that. You have a big battery in order to have the range and then you justify the price of it by saying and oh by the way, it also has 1,000 horsepower.
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Right.
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That's how you sell it for a hundred.
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Because you can get the current from the battery to the motor quickly, you can make more power. So it's like having a huge gas tank, but somehow having a larger gas tank equals more horsepower in an ICE car.
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Right? But it doesn't. But if you're cruising along in a, in a what one might call hypermiling, the fact that your EV, let's call it a lucid same car, one has 500 horsepower, one has 1000 horsepower, otherwise the same car, it doesn't just puttering along in the very fast one. Other than having maybe wider stickier tires and things like that for performance reasons, it's the same. The only real difference is if you go to the single motor, if you ditch the all wheel drive and you go, this is the rear wheel drive single motor, you will have an increase in range then. But, but if it's an all wheel drive one, having the power does not increase your range. In fact there's arguments that having it, making it have more power could increase. You know, there's like good faith motors doing less work. Yeah, there's like there are good faith arguments that actually, you know, the more current we can get going that is, you know, it's better. So granny shifting, not double clutching like you should. Me and Camisa were joking that we should add. Oh that I should add 2 cars to my ownership to get the 10 car Hagerty discount. What 2 cars would I add to the stable? I mean, are we talking about real money? I think if we're talking about real money and we have to be and I'm really going for a discount, I might grab one of those E46 330ci convertible just as a fucking kick around car. Because that could be kind of fun and just some whatever other weird thing Hannah would like. Because we have to make sure that the wife has all the toys that she wants too. Otherwise I cannot Continue this toy purchasing process and that to that degree, I would say an E30 BMW wagon for my wife. She would very much like that. Otto Bon Jovi. There we go. That's a good contraction. Excellent. Roughly how long does it usually take for buyers to pick up the car after winning an auction? I would say it takes two to three days for the money exchange to be finalized. And then once that happens, it really depends if the person is local or not. If they're local, they show up pretty much right away. If they are not local, then it comes down to, well, are they going to fly in and drive it home? Are they going to. Are we going to have a transporter come get it? I would say the average time of. Of. Okay. Ding. Auction done and the car is gone. I never see it again is probably seven to ten days, I think. Yeah. Dr. Oh, Coldplay camera operator. Best luxury vehicle for a divorced CEO.
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Do you know why they're asking this question?
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Oh, for. Oh, because it matches the username.
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No, no, no. Because of the guy from Astronomer.
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Yeah, because it matches the username. Coldplay camera operator.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Right. Yeah, yeah. Because it's very. It's very prudent.
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It's amazing.
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Yeah. Your CEO should absolutely be driving a.
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I'm going with Chevy HHR panel because they can lean. I think the guy's pretty tall, so he can lean back and hide his face. People next to him won't be able to see who's driving, and no one will suspect that the CEO of Astronomer is driving this old truck.
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Yeah. For that particular person.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah. But I. I was thinking more like I'm a CEO and I'm divorced, and I'm trying to, like, you know, like our friend over there, our friend up north who got divorced, which is now having a very good time. He's our friend. Come on.
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Oh, right.
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Come on.
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I feel like we have a lot of friends that got divorced.
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Right, Right. But. But this one's having fun.
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C
Okay, so what are they. What should be driving?
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I mean, 9, 11 in a fun color. If we're. If it's a. Honestly, I think. I think you should flex your PTS.
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Targa, perhaps.
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Yeah. Dr. Cocteau says F1 decides it wants a street race in SoCal and asks you to design the track route. What layout would be your first suggestion?
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I mean, first, I would say. You're kidding, right? Because it's so. There's nothing smooth enough anywhere, really.
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Well, they repave like Long Beach.
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They'd have to race.
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Yeah. They repaved Vegas for the race.
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It would be rad if they could shut down the city like and if they could have a section that like through lax, the Horseshoe as a term would be sick. And then down one of the, the ramps like on a Sepulveda.
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Yeah.
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And then you could go up to the left like on Lincoln near Manchester and past the school down the hill. Like you could make a pretty cool course if it was smooth.
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Yeah. I'd like them to redo the original Santa Monica Grand Prix course from I believe it was 1906 to 1912. That was an eight mile course that started on Ocean Boulevard in Santa Monica. Let's pull up a map of Santa Monica real quick. All right, just google Santa Monica Grand Prix course map. It started start finish line south on the beach on Ocean Boulevard. So Santa Monica, it then turned east on Wilshire. Yeah, look at this, look at this Insano track. No, that's not it. It's the one, it's down to the right. That up that one. That's it. So this is the course. So start finish is on the ocean and then there is about a three mile dead straightaway going in inland up Wilshire Boulevard until you hit where the end of San Vicente Boulevard is. Right in front of the VA hospital there. Turn left on San Vicente and just rip all the way down back down San Vicente to the ocean. You got like dead man's curve there right at the ocean.
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Sure do. This is gonna be a low downforce configuration.
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That is an 8 mile circuit around Santa Monica.
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And then brake, break, break, break, break, 90 degree corner and just drive.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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A heritage, baby. It's about the heritage. So that's, that's what I would like to see. I think that'd be fun, right? Minnie Finney says, in the past I've generally been anti replica. As the first question anyone asks is, is it real? Do you still feel that way? For instance, I can buy a. What is a Roush? Oh, a supercharged.
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C
Like a GT40 replica. You can do that or you can buy a 993 for 140 grand. I mean you could buy this crazy 911T.
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I mean, look, it's not going to bother everybody the way it bothered me to say to everyone who asked, no, it's a replica. And I bet you this GT40 is a great fucking time. And just like Cobras, there's plenty of people who would love the experience of feeling like you're in Le Mans and being Ken Miles and don't have whatever $10 million it takes to buy a real GT40. And even if you did have $10 million, you probably wouldn't want to drive down the street. So like if what you want is the experience of a real ish feeling GT40 because these feel legit as hell, then they're fun. I think the GT40 is the nicest car that Superformance makes, by the way. From a quality standpoint, they. They're great. They really are. Yeah, they are awesome. But just me personally. Yeah, it would, it would drive me nuts. The first thing anyone. Is it real? And you have to go no, but. And tell the whole story. Yeah, it's just whatever.
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I don't mind saying that with the Cobra, but it's. I guess I get.
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Was a headache to me, but whatever.
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I'm surprised people ask because your car was like so extreme.
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Was so obviously not right.
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Yeah, it seemed obvious. Yeah, whatever. People are people.
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Misfit Cyclone says. Am I overreacting by saying the GT3RS is overrated? I'm going to Cars and Coffee, I'm seeing a dozen of them there. I'm over the hype and blah blah, blah. Do I have to experience the car to a preference? Appreciate it. Yeah, I think you have to be on a racetrack with one of those things. Otherwise it makes no sense at all. It really makes no sense. I see them just driving around Beverly Hills. It makes no sense like that. They ride like shit. They don't have a trunk. They're annoying. But if you get one on a racetrack, they're fabulous. And you know, as we learned when I went on the launch, the reason so many people have them out at their thermal, their racetrack, country clubs is because to a lot of drivers, like full on race cars with like a Motec and all that stuff are actually really intimidating. And they want to go on the track. Like they want to track their car, but they really want like the familiarity of it being, being like the car. They drive on the street, you know, they know where stuff is, they know how to make it work. It feels like, you know, even if you get into a very well engineered like LMP race car, like that was my comparison. Like you get a GT3 RS for $400,000 or you get like this like Ligier LMP3 car that you could literally enter in Le Mans for like half, half that. But like not everybody wants this like prototypey thing. A lot of people really do want just a really, really fast track oriented version of the thing that they already have and are used to. And I get that on a racetrack. A GT3RS, for how extreme it looks, is incredibly approachable, and it feels easy to work your way up to speed. So, like, I get it. But, yeah, I guess you do have to experience it on a track, because they're fucking fun as hell on a track. Frozen Dingleberry metallic. Have you guys seen Tedson Motors? They're essentially taking Gallardos and giving them the Singer treatment. These are kind of interesting. Although how awkward of a name is Tedson Motors?
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It is. There's no. I went to their webpage, and there's no pictures of the inside side of the Gallardo.
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Yeah, it's a restyle. The. The. The front. They've sort of made it a little bit like that Countach. That Lamborghini did. The modern Countach.
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The vent with the little lights here.
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Yeah, a little bit like that with those horizontal lights. And I think the front mouth being very horizontal.
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They louvered the rear fenders.
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Yeah. I'm sure we will see one at the Quail.
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And they also do Porsche stuff.
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I don't. I don't hate how it looks. I mean, I think it's. They haven't made it look super ugly. I mean, I think it. I think it's a nice look. Oh, they've done a thing like the Aventador on the side. You see that instead of having the perfectly vertical scoop there, they've made it like the Aventadors.
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That looks really very good.
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It's kind of interesting. The name Tedson is. I'm out.
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C
Sounds like Ted Danson started a car company.
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Yeah, I'm not. I'm not telling someone I'm driving a Tedson. Sorry, it's not happening.
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Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's very true. And also. And maybe there just aren't pictures up yet. But so much of what Singer does and so much of what got attention was the interior, like, seeing that woven leather in all these colors. And so for me, to. Most people that look quickly, they're just gonna. It looks enough like a hurricane that they're gonna go, oh, Huracan. And so unless the inside is new. Sorry, Gallardo. It's like this new bespoke, amazing thing, then I. I don't think you'll grab people the way that they hope they will.
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Yeah. I mean, it's not ugly, though.
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No, the style, I think.
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I think it's a. Generally, it's a. It's a very attractive. The. The direct rear isn't my favorite favorite. The. The entire center of the rear, the painted part below that the horizontal top deck. The painted part below that, but above. The carbon diffuser looks pulled off a front engine. Aston Martin or it looks. Or the McLaren GT. The. Ah, that's it. The back end is McLaren GT. That's what it looks like to me. Front three quarters. The best angle. That. There's your angle right there. Side profile. Pretty good rear end. I'm not sold yet.
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I wonder how much it costs also.
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Oh, probably a million bucks, which would be crazy, wouldn't it?
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Yeah, yeah.
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Name. I mean, especially, like. Name is like a heart out there. No, thanks. No, thanks. Crabhab is trying to explain slow car fast to somebody. The kid is enamored by LS power, and I'm trying to sell him on the finer points of miatas and brzs, etc. Any metaphors to help explain fast car slow.
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C
I mean, for me, it was something that had to be learned through experience. Driving fast things and going, okay, fast isn't actually the greatest thing in the world. You get used to the nuances of driving. It's like, I don't know, just drinking energy drinks for a long time and then going, I'm just gonna sip tea and notice the flavors of it. That's not a great analogy, but.
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No, but, like, they have to try it.
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Yeah.
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I think. I think someone who's never tried a lightweight roadster probably doesn't really get it, but if they got to try it, they'd probably enjoy it.
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I would also ask Crabhab, has this person done autocross or track days? Have they done a lot of driving that frankly just has corners in it? Because if all they do is highway stuff or you live in Texas, I understand how easy it would be to just go after horsepower and want louder, more power, because that's the only experience you can have. You know, you just want to build a bigger ride. Rocket ship.
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Yeah. I like Silence of the Lambos question, but I don't think we'd be like. I think the people that we'd put there, like, aren't, like, famous people that anybody would know. I don't. I don't think it's. I don't think we're gonna like the answers. Winona's big brown Beamer. That's a. Is that. That's a separate Primus. We have multiple Primus references in one show. Okay. Strangest place you've ever dropped. Driven. I never thought I would drive here. Situation. Off roading in Panama, maybe.
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C
Yeah.
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911 Dakar in the Moroccan desert. That's probably a good one.
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Also Morocco. I Remember I was riding in the back of our like whatever car, like our crew car. And I looked behind me and we were being followed by our fixer and an air cooled 911 and I was like sitting sideways and I just went, where the fuck am I? Like we're driving into this market. It was so crazy.
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A
I. I drove a sherp in a frozen lake.
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C
That's pretty good.
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A
That was probably one. Yeah.
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C
Iceland off roading in Iceland.
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A
Iceland, yeah. Anti silicons. That's a very good one. Used R1T quad motor. Prices are in the 40s with five years left on the battery warranty. Would you roll the dice? I wouldn't want a Rivian that doesn't have a bumper to bumper warranty. Because. Because that suspension system they've got could be something. Something. I wouldn't want an early Rivian without a full. Forget the battery. The battery, okay, fine. But there's more to a car than a battery.
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C
We've seen around this town a lot, a lot of cars, luxury cars that have airbag suspension. The airbags collapse, the car never moves because it's so expensive to fix it.
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A
Jen, in Taconic State Parkway. Do all modern 911s have power folding mirrors? No, it isn't option. You may not be able to get them on like GT3RS is, but. But pretty sure it's an option on all other regular Porsches. Great gambalas of fire. That's pretty good too. What is the most Ferrari Lamborghini and what is the most Lamborghini Ferrari? That's pretty good. 40 years old, max. So the Lamborghini. Lamborghini Yelpa was designed to directly compete with the Ferrari 308 with the same transverse V8 engine, which was really just four cylinders. Cut off the V12 Targa roof. Just like the 308. About the same size as the 308.
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C
Actually.
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A
It's a reasonably handsome car.
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C
It looks like a Pantera kind of.
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A
Yeah. The interiors are not great in the these, but I always smile when I see one at a car show. And that is very rare because they did not make a lot of these. I think that's the most Ferrari Lamborghini. The most Lamborghini Ferrari.
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C
I think the Pursangua because I think Lamborghini led the charge. But when you look at that car, it looks like two cars stacked on top of each other. It's. It's super extroverted outside and the interior has winds and misses and you can't like it has all these problems. And to Me. That is a very Lamborghini. It's a. It's an exotic car owning experience. And the exterior of it is as. Almost as controversial as the urs.
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A
I was going to say the most Lamborghini, Ferrari. That's a very good one. Is.
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C
Is the Enzo, which looks styling wise. Yeah. It's one of the few square Ferraris, I would say. Right, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a good point.
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A
Good question, though.
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C
Let me go back.
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A
Find it. I like the Yalpa yellow too. That's a very good one. Okay. Spin the black circle. If we were to marry each other and have an adopted child. What two car garage. Holy. How many hypotheticals can we stack? Okay. If we. Right. Fell in love.
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C
Sure.
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A
First off, let's back it up. If we were both gay.
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C
Right.
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A
Or by. Or something. And then also if we were not already married to other people. Okay. And then we were to also fall in love.
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C
We could be married and then fall in love and then divorce those people. If we want to add extra compliments.
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A
We could. Drama. Probably be great for the numbers.
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C
Great for the gilded.
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A
Great for the numbers. Okay. And then we'd have an adopted child.
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C
So we do get that paperwork done.
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A
It's not even like. That's not even the gearhead DNA that's happening. It's like we'd to have to forget nature. We have to pure nurture an adopted child into having two cars.
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C
Yes. It adds criteria.
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A
What cars are they gonna have?
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C
That's the funny thing is what cars are they saying?
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A
What cars would we have?
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C
Are we the.
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A
You and I or would the child have.
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C
I read it as the child because.
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A
Me too. Yeah. If Matt and Zach. But Matt and Zach are also.
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C
Let's assume the cars are ours.
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A
Okay, fine. So what are you.
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C
So.
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A
So. All right, so we have to.
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C
We need something that can. We need something that can drive the kid around.
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A
We're gay.
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C
Right.
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A
Which obviously matters when choosing a car.
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C
Sure. Definitely.
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A
I mean, people will say it. It does. So it must be true.
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C
We're gonna want comfy seats.
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A
Right. And we're gonna need at least. At least one Subaru.
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C
It's a butt sex joke. Sorry to hear you.
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A
Yeah. I think we probably would need a. I would need a Panama era Turbo S. E Hybrid with the, you know, active ride. Yeah.
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C
Okay. So that's what you. We drive this kid to school in Mobbing. And then I would. Ranger Raptor. I want to introduce the kid to. Going outside into the woods, but at speed. Yeah.
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A
And you could. You could have no sports car.
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C
Notice we just chose.
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A
You could have gay sex in either of these. Those cars pretty easily. Pretty easily fold in. Yeah, pretty. I mean pretty in the bed. You know, whatever.
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C
The Panamera might be a little challenging.
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A
Yeah. Soup kitchen came in. My asks what a name to follow.
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C
Yeah, what a name.
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A
Which would you choose for long term use? Integra Type S or CT4 Blackwing. Both great neighbors those cars in terms of like long term. Like you want a rear wheel drive car with you know 475 horsepower. Do you want a front wheel drive car that's very. I mean one is 50% more expensive than the other.
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C
Yeah.
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A
The Blackwing is a nicer car.
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C
Yep.
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A
It's more powerful. It handles better. It's rear wheel drive faster.
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C
It might get better gas mileage or the same. Because I remember the Type S did not get very good gas mileage.
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A
Bad gas mileage and a small tank. Right.
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C
Yeah.
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A
So I don't know about long. If long term use means keep it for a long time or if means like lots of road trips and shit like that.
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C
I would go Black Wing. I think it's. Yeah, they're both good cars.
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A
Yeah.
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C
But the Black wing is an M3 that's made in the United States or by an American company at least.
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A
I'm gonna skip that one. Audemars Piguet or Audi? Audi, Morris and Pooh. By the way. Just everybody knows that when someone says I'm Audi 5000 that's. That's Audi 5000. Right? Everyone knows that. Right?
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C
Yeah.
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A
Okay. There's people I think that don't know that. That it's not O u T I E as opposed to Audi.
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C
No, we were using Audi but I'm out of here. But yeah, yeah yeah, yeah.
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A
How much would minor damage on a car feature facts impact your decision to keep a 997.2 Carrera long term. Got a too good to be true deal on a car and I can't tell from looking or driving it and found out two years later. Whoa. I mean so you there. There was damage in a carfax. You can't tell from looking at it. You can't tell from driving driving it. The only person that gives a shit is you when you were buying it. And obviously that didn't stop you then and you and the person you might sell it to in between. It's just a car. No one's reading the carfax. So is the que it. Would it. Would it affect my decision? Like this is like this Is like going on mori. Like if you. If you had a car that you like and two years later you found out that you're not the father, that you're not the father, are you gonna sell this car? Like you found out about this damage, you're like, oh my God, I have to get rid of it now. If you already have it and like it, it wouldn't impact your decision to sell it at all. Fucking keep it. Who gives a shit?
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C
And I think if when you go to sell it, then you just. The best thing to do is be honest about it. It not, you know, because it sounds like it's in the carfax and they didn't notice.
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A
Yeah.
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C
So the next buyer might notice and I don't know, hopefully it's not a big deal and it's not structural. And you go, look, you can't feel it. I've had it to these shops. They can't notice. The alignment's all fine.
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A
Yeah.
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C
And you might not care. And the next buyer might not care.
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A
The same thing, this same shit with Eric's M3, that's ending right as people are probably listening to this on Bring a trailer. Eric's the third owner of that car. The second owner was Russell, who also works here. Russell bought it CPO from a dealer. The first owner was in a minor accident and the bumper was sprayed or replaced and painted in the carfax. Would you ever fucking go look at the car? Would you ever know? Like. No. No one know. They replaced the bumper and they painted it to match. And it's been so long since then. So, like this. This car will still bring all of the money because it looks fabulous. It's documented. We've got paint meter readings showing that it was done to factory spec. Like whatever. Like, what else can you do?
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C
Yeah, there's some people that want the car to be a virgin. And look, you bought the car despite this flaw. Someone else who's a smart shopper and you got a good deal. So they might get excited.
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A
By the way, got a too good to be true deal.
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C
Sure.
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A
Means that like you got a discount on the car for whatever reason. Now you can say you got it for a reason because it was hit. So if someone else is going to end up getting a little discount because it's hit, it's money in, money out, whatever. If you got a too good to be true deal on a car that had some damage, who fucking cares? Keep it. And when you, you know, you might not get all that money back on the other end, but Like, I think you'd be fine.
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C
This is the last one.
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A
Okay.
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C
We can save the lower one.
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A
All right. Toby Keith Urban. That's a good contraction. There we go. Stepping into the watch world. Never realized all of the uber popular watches were so small. Are there certain brands, models that fit better for big guys? Of course there are. I'm 6 foot 5 and a 48 millimeter fossil I've had since high school look correct on my wrist. Boy, do I have luck for you, buddy. Where were you in 2016 when huge watches were all the fucking rage? No worries. Actually, right now Toby Keith Urban is the absolute perfect. Never been a better time for you to buy a watch secondhand. Big faces are minimum cool right now, but they will always come back. You need to be shopping for Panerais. Panerai luminors, Panerai Radiomir's. They have a variety of watches that are 45 millimeter and up. And that is your big wristed watch right there. A Panerai luminor. Yeah, there it is.
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C
It's also a good time to get a watch if you're getting into them because the watch index is at an all time low.
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A
The watch index is down post pandemic. Yeah, it's back to where it, you know. Back to where if you spread out the line to max. Does it have max? So if you ignore the pandemic and just draw a line from 2017 to now, it's pretty much a straight line. But because of the pandemic, it's. Everything seems down.
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C
Yeah. So I would say it's a great time to be a new shopper to watches. Right, for that reason.
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A
Yeah, exactly. And so here's where you need to be looking at. Bright light. Breitling has a lot of big face offerings. Navitimers and super oceans and supermarines. You want to be looking at Panerais. You want to be looking at Omega Planet Oceans. Those are 45 millimeter. Yeah, that's where you live, my friend. And you will find happiness there, I assure you. That's our show for today. Zach, do you think that our shows from Texas are going to be the next shows that we air? We gotta have two shows next week from Texas. Well, recorded them in Texas.
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C
We have a show we're recording on Wednesday and that will air Tuesday and then the first show we record in Texas will air the following next Thursday.
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A
Right, okay.
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C
So, yeah.
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A
All right. So everybody will hear the shows from Texas eventually. Yes, Provided they're good. Yeah, they will be good. We probably will not be able to use Christian's stuff though, unfortunately.
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C
Okay.
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A
I I'm having dinner with him tonight. We will discuss but I think probably not even though I think we could probably get away with it. I just wouldn't want to make his life harder.
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C
Yeah, don't.
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A
But yeah, there are a few. Just a few few of the green notice canyons left. The Black Pearl. The Black Pearl. I'll tell you what the last hold up was. We are doing the oyster bracelet on the last pearl because oysters and pearls go together as opposed to the jubilee bracelet we've done on all the other ones. So we'll have a unique bracelet for that one. Almost everybody who's getting one of those has another canyon also, I assume so they can interchange them. So that's going on. And yeah, everything else is coming up fucking roses. Yeah, we'll see you guys in Texas. If you're coming out to see us. It should be a great time and thanks to our patrons for such great questions. If you want to get in the game. Patreon.com the Smoking Tire podcast and we will see you on Wednesday with another episode.