From Selling Hot Dogs to Hypercars

Summary

The Smoking Tire Podcast

Episode: From Selling Hot Dogs to Hypercars
Date: July 23, 2026
Host(s): Matt Farah & Zack Klapman
Guest: Nat Mundy (HK Motor Cars)
Location: Bedford Hills, New York (HK Motor Cars Shop)

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Overview

In this engaging and candid episode, Matt and Zack travel to Bedford Hills, NY, to connect with old friend and automotive entrepreneur Nat Mundy at his shop, HK Motor Cars. The trio covers Nat’s remarkable journey—from selling hot dogs at racetracks to dealing rare and exotic hypercars—sharing stories of hustling in lean times, building and adapting successful car-related businesses, and what it’s really like selling dream machines no one else will touch. They reminisce about wild indoor karting leagues, discuss the rise of high-end restomod culture, and provide firsthand impressions from their drives in two wild restomod Porsches.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Early Hustle: Hot Dogs, Carny Rides, & Go-Karts

[02:33 – 10:16]

• Origins: Matt and Nat go way back, bonding over car culture and go-karting two decades ago.
• Go-Kart Commercial and Lifetime Racing: Nat hired Matt to make a local TV ad for his Grand Prix New York karting center, paying him in lifetime go-karting.
  • “I went karting every day. Yeah. For like a year and a half.” – Matt (04:07)
• First Luxury Indoor Track:
  • Inspired by F1 Boston, Nat aimed for a higher-end experience, including a full bar and surprisingly good restaurant (“Fuel”).
• The Hot Dog Hustle:
  • As Grand Prix NY struggled with the 2008 downturn, Nat got scrappy, buying over 100 Shea Stadium hot dog carts at auction, selling the best on eBay, and running the rest for events—plus bouncy castles and portable karts.
  • “I went full carny for about seven years.” – Nat (06:00)
• Exit Win: Lime Rock Park bought out his hot dog operation.

2. Adapting to Adversity: Pivoting Businesses

[10:16 – 17:56]

• The Crash of ’08: Luxury corporate events dried up, so Grand Prix NY pivoted to family parties.
• Unusual Rides: Nat was known for driving “weird engine-swapped Land Rovers” and being a relentless hustler during tough times.
• Bowling, Booze & Arcades: When Matt left for LA, Nat converted half the go-kart facility into a bowling alley and expanded the arcade.
  • “The arcade was the real savior though.” – Nat (10:45)
  • Some arcade games like “Big Bass Wheel” did $15,000/week just in ticket sales.
  • “It just prints tickets.” – Nat (15:32)
• Selling Up: Nat sold his locations in 2019.

3. Transition to the Hypercar Dealer World

[17:56 – 25:15]

• Consulting & Country Club Racing: Spent years consulting and living the fun racetrack life at Monticello, building relationships with collectors.
  • “You talk about cars. You talk about people’s kids. …There’s no politics…” – Nat (18:25)
• Dealer Evolution:
  • Started HK Motor Cars in 2019 as a “COVID boredom thing,” becoming the nexus for rare restomods and exotics.
  • Early deals included commissioning the Le Mans-podium Glickenhaus 709.

4. HK Motor Cars: Niche Supercars & Restomods

[25:15 – 30:40]

• Unique Portfolio: Sells hyper-niche brands—Gunther Werks, Chimera (Lancia 037 restomod), Nardone (Porsche 928), Eccentrica (Lamborghini Diablo), and others.
  • “I went with brands that spoke to me that I wanted in the collection.” – Nat (26:51)
• Philosophy: Cars are meant to be driven hard, not polished for value.
  • “With these brands we carry, you could rack it up pretty good… [and] you’ll get a brand new car afterward.” – Nat (28:14)
• Buying What No One Else Would Sell: Nat saw opportunity in representing brands requiring donor cars (except Singer).
  • “I’m gonna do all the brands that nobody else will sell…that no one will touch.” – Matt (25:57)

5. Driving Impressions: Chimera 037 & 1511 (Restomod 914)

[30:40 – 41:34]

• Chimera 037:
  • Wild, raw, challenging, and reminiscent of the Lancia rally mythos.
  • “It’s a chainsaw…it makes all the right noises.” – Nat (29:01)
  • Matt: “If what you’re looking for is to go back to a time where a car made you sort of earn it, that’s it.” (29:29)
  • Serviceability is simple—comes with a laptop for remote support; repairs can often be handled by good local shops.
• 1511 (Porsche 914 Restomod):
  • Carbon fiber body panels, integrated structural rigidity, water-cooled 4L engine.
  • Price: ~£395k (approx $550k USD), paid to UK builder.
  • “Everything is carbon fiber…even the door skins…” (38:02)
  • A “very tight little thing…solidly made” (40:47)
  • Brakes are manual (upgradeable), but otherwise inputs and ride quality highly praised.
  • “You’re not gonna impress somebody by telling them you’ve spent half a million bucks on a 914.” – Matt (41:47)
  • Nat: “But if you look at 914 history…it beat 911s in Le Mans…” (41:54)

6. Running a Next-Gen Exotic Dealership

[41:34 – End]

• Service & Daily Use: All brands emphasize analog experience and drivability—Nat even uses some for errands.
  • “I can take the Gunther Werks to get groceries.” – Nat (41:09)
• Unique Customer Experiences: Customers are hardcore enthusiasts, buying for the love, not speculating.
• Upcoming Projects: New physical showroom in Greenwich, CT, opening soon; excited to have the TST team back.

7. Classic Lemons, Hot Dogs & Closing Banter

[44:45 – End]

• Racing Lemons at Stafford Motor Speedway: Tales of last-minute Craigslist engine swaps and insurance brokers crashing cars.
• Hot Dog Philosophy:
  • “Potato bun makes it.” – Nat (46:34)
  • “My favorite new method for cooking a hot dog? Spiral cut it…in the Breville air fryer.” – Matt (46:42)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Entrepreneurial Hustle:
  • “I was the king of go karts and tube meat.” – Nat (08:57)
• On Hypercar Dealer Life:
  • “I went from hot dogs to selling $3M hypercars.” – Nat (30:42)
• On Restomod Philosophy:
  • “Everything that we carry is meant to be driven.” – Nat (27:40)
• On Car Buyer Psychology:
  • “With these brands we carry, I feel like you could rack it up pretty good…you’ll get a brand new car afterward.” – Nat (28:14)
  • “You’re not going to impress somebody by telling them you’ve spent half a million bucks on a 914.” – Matt (41:47)
• On Old Karting Days:
  • “I did… I brought paying people. You were a good freebie to have.” – Matt (03:55)
• On Modern Exotics:
  • “People are fed up with all the tech in these cars…The Chimera and the Gunther Werks can be worked on by a normal shop.” – Nat (29:37)

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Important Timestamps

• 00:00-02:32 – Intro, live event promo, and location for current episode
• 03:03-04:35 – Matt and Nat reminisce about early karting and business trades
• 06:06-10:16 – Hot dog cart empire and hustles at Lime Rock & carny rides
• 10:41-15:32 – Adapting business models: bowling, booze, and arcade economics
• 17:00-18:25 – Monticello racetrack adventures and insights into track culture
• 24:47-26:07 – Nat discusses starting HK Motor Cars post-COVID, early wins
• 29:07-30:14 – Restomods vs. tech-heavy supercars—service and driving differences
• 36:02-41:34 – Deep dive: Impressions of 1511 Porsche 914 restomod, drivability
• 46:34-46:56 – The essential element of a hot dog: “Potato bun makes it.”
• 47:12-End – Plans for new Greenwich showroom, closing banter

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a celebration of automotive hustle—how curiosity, adaptability, and sheer grit can take someone from running a hot dog cart at Lime Rock to curating some of the world’s most unique and exciting automobiles. Packed with storytelling, hands-on reviews, esoteric car tales, and just the right amount of irreverence, it’s a must-listen for anyone who wonders how the car business really works, or who just loves great stories about outrageous machines and the people who bring them to life.

Transcript

[Matt Farah]

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in Bedford Hills, New York at my old pal Nat Mundy's shop, HK Motor Cars. This guy is a dealer of all the weird stuff. I'm talking Guntherwerks. I'm talking Chimera. I'm talking about all those strange brands where you see me drive them and you go, where do people even buy those cars? The answer is from Nat Mundy at HK Motor Cars. And he also knows a thing or two about a hot dog. It's the Smoking Tire Podcast. Let's go. Mini podcast. It was supposed to be a full fucking podcast. But guess what car didn't cooperate.

[Nat Mundy]

Not it doesn't always work out.

[Matt Farah]

Sometimes the car doesn't cooperate. So me and Nat, we'll just reminisce for a Little bit, but not as long as we were gonna, is what I'm saying. You know, I'm very sweaty today. That was a, it was a sweaty afternoon with the chimera and the 15, 11, 9, 14.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

All right. This is radio. So I've known this guy for 21 years now, right? Yeah, 21 years. Oh, five.

Yeah.

And we met over some car thing. And you had just opened Grand Prix New York.

[Nat Mundy]

We were raising money for it.

[Matt Farah]

Still had you not actually opened?

[Nat Mundy]

I didn't start a construction.

[Guest/Producer]

Okay.

[Matt Farah]

All right, so it's before we met, before it actually opened. Oh, yeah. I remember because we got to check it out a little bit before it opened. Right.

[Nat Mundy]

And I had played hockey with Larry.

[Matt Farah]

Right.

[Nat Mundy]

You were a man. New York Motor Club.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Okay. I, I actually had not thought that far back about it for a while.

[Nat Mundy]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

And then when you opened, you wanted to make a television commercial, a local cable. And you hired me and Tom Morningstar to make your commercial. And instead of paying with money, you pay us with free lifetime unlimited go karting.

[Nat Mundy]

Yeah, that's. You won on that one, which I agree.

[Guest/Producer]

Someone asked if you ever calculated the

[Matt Farah]

money gratuitously took advantage of.

[Nat Mundy]

There was never a reason to because you always brought other people with you.

[Matt Farah]

I did. I brought paying people.

[Nat Mundy]

You were a good freebie to have. I, I threw a lot of like, definitely small bar mitzvahs for some people that just showed up at 20 kids on a Saturday. You never did that?

[Matt Farah]

No, no, he never did that. I, I, I didn't, I don't say I abused it, but I went carding every day. Yeah. For like a year and a half.

[Nat Mundy]

Correct.

[Matt Farah]

And I won the men's league, which was pretty fun.

[Nat Mundy]

And you had great commercials for us. I made a commercial. Did you use for a while, probably five years on cable tv. And the better part about that, did

[Matt Farah]

you want to build a winning team?

[Nat Mundy]

Exactly.

[Matt Farah]

Was the team building commercial.

[Nat Mundy]

But the coolest part about that was that segued into you to the 24 hour go kart race.

[Matt Farah]

Oh, yes. We did do the 24 hour go kart race, which was very fun.

[Nat Mundy]

And we had to wet the track down to save tires. So. So, Zach, to make tires last 24 hours of non stop use, we had to basically dump water on the track to be slippery. So I was armed, which made it really hard. So I had the hose at the top of the top of the bridge just giving people a fire hose. And then the buckets of five gallon buckets of water.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Nat Mundy]

That you Just nail people with. It was like.

[Matt Farah]

It's like the Nurburgring where half the track is dry and then all of a sudden out of nowhere.

[Guest/Producer]

That's pretty cool. That's probably really fun.

[Matt Farah]

It was. It was very challenging. And this was like. This was really the first of the. Of its kind of the sort of luxury indoor go kart track.

[Nat Mundy]

That's correct. And we had F1. Boston was sort of the first in America. And we just basically copied that but added a little bit more sort of a. A higher end vibe.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, the bar.

[Nat Mundy]

The bar. Chilean sea bass steak fr. At the restaurant.

[Matt Farah]

I ate at the restaurant a lot. The restaurant was really good.

[Nat Mundy]

It was actually really good.

[Matt Farah]

The rest. Was it called.

[Nat Mundy]

It was called Fuel.

[Matt Farah]

Oh, yes, of course. The restaurant. Restaurant was good. But I always thought that you were really interesting because of the hot dog carts.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Nat Mundy]

Hot dog heaven.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Like Nat is like a. Is a very traditional entrepreneur of just start small and roll it in. And start small and roll it in. I mean, that's how you kind of started hk.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

And before that, like the hot dog carts. So, like, tell us the story of the hot dog.

[Nat Mundy]

Well, with Grand Prix New York, we were at Lime Rock 30 days a year. Right. So 30 days a year, just promoting for Grand Prix New York, Lime Rock, at all the five major weekends they'd have there. So I bought Shea Stadium was being torn down. They were building Citi Field and they put all of the hot dog carts up for public auction to sell. But you couldn't just buy one, you had to buy 100.

[Matt Farah]

Was it 100?

[Nat Mundy]

It was over 100.

[Guest/Producer]

Whoa.

[Nat Mundy]

And I got there and they were all sitting in various piles and some were great, some were, you know, used. Some or whatever ended up selling the really good ones on ebay. Because you want a piece of Shea Stadium, this is your chance.

[Guest/Producer]

Sure.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Nat Mundy]

And then I scraped.

[Matt Farah]

We have Yankee Stadium seats.

[Nat Mundy]

It was a common seats.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Nat Mundy]

So then I scrapped the junk stuff because whatever, scrap is scrap. And then I kept 10 and I operated them at racetracks and various things along with my bouncy castle and portable go kart setup. I went full carny for about seven years.

[Matt Farah]

Wow, he looks Greenwich. And he's got nice cars now, but like back then he dressed Greenwich and he looked like this. Just less facial hair. But he was the trashiest person. Like he would draw, he would drive like weird engine swapped Land Rovers. He'd be hustling carny rides. Like the weird. He was always doing the weirdest hustle.

[Nat Mundy]

Well, it was Desperate times, right? We opened up a $12 million go kart track in 2007. And then, boom, the economy goes. We didn't want to do that. And every corporate event puckered up and said, we can't actually. We're not allowed to do our corporate events anymore. And so we had to really change the model and do, like, Mitzvahs and Sweet 16s and became family entertainment as well. But you're not wrong. Like, I had. Yeah. I still. I still have that Range Rover. And it runs on. It runs on fry oil or. Yeah. The one in the back warehouse here has got a Corvette Callaway engine in it. Cool. Because as you do.

[Matt Farah]

Because.

[Nat Mundy]

Yeah, it does. Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Is it like four forced induction or.

[Nat Mundy]

It's one of two that. No, it's not forced induction. It's one of two Callaway made. It's a Vet Ranger. And I have the road and track article. And that was owned by another car dealer in. In Greenwich.

[Matt Farah]

So that engine was installed new by Callaway.

[Nat Mundy]

Wow. And it was. It was one of two built. It was then purchased by Mark Starr. Oh, yeah. Who sold it to me when I was, like, I don't know, 22 years old. So I've always loved that. Nothing normal about.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Super stupid.

[Nat Mundy]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. But so. But I always was like hot dog carts, like that. It was just such a strange.

[Nat Mundy]

I was the king of go karts and tube meat and. And I have to say that, like, hot dogs, it was 35 cents your cost.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Nat Mundy]

Per dog. And you could sell them for like, three, four bucks. It added up pretty quick.

[Guest/Producer]

Yep.

[Nat Mundy]

And it was a great. A great couple summers doing that. And then the best part is the exit strategy on that one was Lime Rock bought all the equipment from us.

[Matt Farah]

Oh, really?

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Nat Mundy]

They were like, well, we like what you're doing. Can we buy it?

[Matt Farah]

Wow.

[Guest/Producer]

So all at once, one customer still

[Nat Mundy]

get a mundy dog. Dirty. A dirty mundy dog. Up at Lime Rock. And they've really fixed up. I mean, Lime Rock's crushing it now, by the way. Haven't been up there in a while yet.

[Matt Farah]

I was up there like maybe three.

Three years ago.

[Nat Mundy]

Dickie Regal, who runs it now, has got Rose all day as the theme. It's. It's well done hospitality.

[Matt Farah]

For real. Yes.

[Nat Mundy]

They've got good drinks. They've got Lime Rock lemonade, which is basically yucca. I mean, they've really done a great job.

[Matt Farah]

Okay.

[Nat Mundy]

My. My. My product line wouldn't fit in today's Lime Rocks.

[Matt Farah]

We're going back we're going the road and track experiences. The, the Hudson 400 Hudson Quattrocento.

[Nat Mundy]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Lime Rock is the, the true track we use.

[Nat Mundy]

Okay.

[Matt Farah]

Any listeners, you want to come drive with me? Dude, you know what? Maybe, maybe I'll ask you to come out to Lime Rock with like the 037 for a day and we can give people a couple of thrill rides. Yeah, that would be a good time.

[Nat Mundy]

I'd love that.

[Matt Farah]

You could drive. I could drive. We could have a, A pro. Whatever you want to do.

[Nat Mundy]

And depending what time of year when it is, I mean, October, end of October, we'll have some other really great stuff by then. Cool.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

So, so, yeah, I mean, when you, when I, when you were like, hey, after, after, you know, when I moved to LA and you, you wisely, I think, converted half of the go kart track into a bowling alley because you can serve booze to people while they

[Nat Mundy]

bowl food and beverage and you can't

[Matt Farah]

serve booze to people while they're go karting.

[Nat Mundy]

At least you shouldn't. The arcade was the real savior though.

[Matt Farah]

Was it the arcade?

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[Nat Mundy]

Quint.com tire that one game, Big Bass Wheel. Like $15,000 game does. $15,000 a week.

[Matt Farah]

No way.

[Nat Mundy]

It just prints tickets.

[Matt Farah]

No way.

[Nat Mundy]

So your cost of goods sold on an arcade is like 16 cents.

[Guest/Producer]

That is crazy.

[Nat Mundy]

It's very expensive. Capex up front and electricity. Etc. But they're just PCs, of course. Flat screens now.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, yeah. It's just a wood cabinet with.

[Nat Mundy]

I'm so glad I'm not in that business anymore.

[Guest/Producer]

Well, now everyone's got a phone that has like so many games on it, Right.

[Matt Farah]

I bet you, I bet you a full arcade game could run on an Android phone.

[Guest/Producer]

Oh, definitely.

[Nat Mundy]

It's probably about the same processing power, just Prince tickets. But that's, that's a great. In October 2019, I was bought out of all those locations.

[Matt Farah]

Ironically, you could hit a. I could hit a five iron into the front.

[Nat Mundy]

We are in the complex from there right now.

[Matt Farah]

It's directly across the street. This, by the way, this, this parking lot, Zach, is where I hucked the, the accessory drive belt off the Vanquish trying to do a donut.

[Guest/Producer]

Got it. This is where it happened.

[Nat Mundy]

Yeah, we did it. We did a charity car show and Matt Ferris shows up and blows the

[Matt Farah]

belt off the car. And I, I thought I had done some terrible thing. And then until someone sent me Vicki Butler Henderson's review from Fifth Gear.

[Nat Mundy]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Where she does the same thing. And I, I, that was how, that

was my intro to Vicki.

I was like, vicki, thank you for proving I wasn't some.

[Nat Mundy]

She replicated it. Yeah, it was all good,

[Matt Farah]

but. And then you were like, dude, I'm going to go up to Montecello to sell race cars.

[Nat Mundy]

Yeah, we would. I went up there, consulted for them for nine years, was an executive for three of them. It was great. Wonderful track. One of my favorite complexes.

[Matt Farah]

Still one of my favorites.

[Nat Mundy]

And it just happens to be two hours away from home.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. So that was. Were there any open private track clubs that were built for that? Maybe Autobahn. Autobahn.

[Nat Mundy]

And Spring Mountain was being built. And Spring Mountain because the radical program was between Monticello and there.

[Matt Farah]

I think Spring Mountain might be my favorite racetrack. Country club that I've seen.

[Nat Mundy]

Oh yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Well it's got the most track.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Nat Mundy]

The most tarmac out of all of them.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Nat Mundy]

And configurations etc any year round season. And Ari from Monticello is building pieces one down in. In Port St. Lucie. I've heard good things so that's going to be.

[Matt Farah]

I don't want to have to go to Florida. Sorry. Yeah, maybe not but same Aaron Weiss at Concourse has always been very nice to me. I would love it but Florida we've got very sticky.

[Guest/Producer]

We.

[Nat Mundy]

We spent a lot of time at Concourse Club. We've got a. Our, our. Our Miami location is there is house at. At one of their lofts.

[Matt Farah]

I mean as one does.

[Nat Mundy]

Yeah. But Monticello was a really fun stint. I mean I, I lived on in lake houses with instructors relived my college years for another 10. Kind of postponed reality and just realized that I couldn't work seven days a week anymore.

[Matt Farah]

Well it's easy. It's. How easy is it to fall into that trap when your job is like kind of fun and, and, and a good portion of your job is just like hanging out and bullshitting with guys around the racetrack.

[Nat Mundy]

It's very true but you know it's like places like that breed a lot of like minded people. You meet. You meet some people that you really enjoy and those relationships tend to be around cars. There's no politics at Monticello like outside of the politics that involve are involved at the track itself. But like you know you, you talk about cars. You talk about like my people's kids and how they're doing. Are they racing and whatever. And I built the go kart facility for them, the off road program and I even bought them a tank.

[Matt Farah]

A tank?

[Nat Mundy]

Yeah. Chieftain and then an APC 432.

[Matt Farah]

Does it work?

[Nat Mundy]

It does, yeah.

[Matt Farah]

What do you do with it?

[Nat Mundy]

Drive over cars. Oh nice as. What else do you.

[Guest/Producer]

Right. Carnival ride.

[Matt Farah]

I did that in Minnesota. No, Minnesota. It was. I think it was called trivitank.com or something.

[Nat Mundy]

But then with Chris Du Plessis we built the rally program and some other stuff and, and Chris is now at P1 and I think we all kind of stayed in that game. But what I realized from it was you know the portfolio of a resume of people that I met who are all active car people and collectors is a great segue into the dealership side of things.

[Matt Farah]

Well if you're hang. If you're there and hanging out, they're asking you where to buy cars and where to sell cars. So you're. You're you're. You have to be that guy. You might as well make a living off it.

[Nat Mundy]

And I obviously liked being at a racetrack all the time. I can tell you right now that I don't miss the, the commute. I mean it was two hours.

[Matt Farah]

That sucks.

[Nat Mundy]

There was no if ands.

[Matt Farah]

Is that how you ended up with 240,000 miles on a F80 or what is it? F30, whatever that.

[Nat Mundy]

So I just. Cuz I destroyed the 2004 S4 in about a year.

[Matt Farah]

Sure.

[Nat Mundy]

That car cost me $47,000 to drive 147,000 miles.

[Matt Farah]

Okay.

[Nat Mundy]

In out of warranty service, that little diesel BMW has cost around 6,7000. That's in, in, in consumables.

[Matt Farah]

If you're racking up miles. That is the car.

[Nat Mundy]

Yeah. Oh, for sure. And it's got great better headlights, better, better wipers. All the things that you get with a BMW exist on that three series.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, yeah.

[Nat Mundy]

You know, it's not just some.

[Guest/Producer]

No, it's. Those are really good cars.

[Nat Mundy]

Well, I like them so much that I own a couple now.

[Matt Farah]

Oh, do you?

[Nat Mundy]

I've been buying low miles ones. Yeah. I've got a couple in the warehouse back there. I get low miles. That one matches my BMW motorcycle.

[Guest/Producer]

So it was pretty funny. You're gonna flip them eventually in 30 years when diesel gets cheap again.

[Nat Mundy]

Honestly, I think we'll just continue to put them in places we need them as shop cars like that thing. When we get retired to Florida, we'll leave it down there as like the

[Matt Farah]

get around the wide open throttle guys have the gas powered like 328 eyes. And they use them as track trainers.

[Guest/Producer]

Sure.

[Matt Farah]

And they don't do anything to them. They just change the oil and like they're fine and they just.

[Guest/Producer]

You just.

[Matt Farah]

They run them for eight hours a

[Nat Mundy]

day and I think, I mean remember the TDI cup when Volkswagen did that? I wanted to be in that so bad, but I was like 10 years older than like the entry. Had to be. You had to be 22.

[Guest/Producer]

Put one of these in lemons, you're ready.

[Nat Mundy]

It would have been great.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah. You could still do it. Yes, you could.

[Matt Farah]

Probably. Yeah, you could. You could definitely turn your old one into an endurance race car.

[Nat Mundy]

A wagon race car.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, yeah.

[Guest/Producer]

I think Volvo and BMW just did that at the Nurburgring with a couple crazy. The M3 touring. Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Nat Mundy]

What about converting one, converting that one with the high miles into like the pickup truck that you've seen with the M3.

[Matt Farah]

Oh yeah. The one that they did at the factory.

[Guest/Producer]

That would work, I think the factory one's A2A coupe, but you could still do it. It's Crew Cab. There you go.

[Nat Mundy]

Be kind of cool.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah, it would be cool. Diamond plate.

[Matt Farah]

You could also just, you know.

[Nat Mundy]

I plan on driving into the ground, man.

[Matt Farah]

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[Nat Mundy]

And even when the suspension finally went though, they were like, well, what do you want to replace it with? This is your chance to put in, like, built like a stock OEM, whatever. Did the230,000 miles I want you to put right back in.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Nat Mundy]

They were like, okay.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

I bet it felt nice.

[Guest/Producer]

It's.

[Nat Mundy]

You should drive it. It's glorious.

[Matt Farah]

I've driven them before, but I bet it felt nice when it got new shots.

[Guest/Producer]

Good long distance choice if I was doing like lots of miles. Like Vinnie Russo had one of those. You know, if you're doing a bunch of miles.

[Nat Mundy]

Yeah, no. It's a rock star of a car.

[Matt Farah]

But Vinnie got rear ended at like 50 miles an hour. That's why it didn't have anymore.

[Guest/Producer]

Yep.

[Matt Farah]

The cargo box survives though when flying over.

[Guest/Producer]

Huh. Like cuz it flew off the car.

[Matt Farah]

It flew off the car and now

[Guest/Producer]

it's on his truck, which definitely needed to be taller. So did you start HK at Monticello? And like, you know, HK was kind

[Nat Mundy]

of like a 2019 sort of COVID boredom thing. Like a lot of those things. And if a lot of lot stuff we sell also came out of COVID too. You know, these products sort of these brands came up during COVID People sitting around 2019 did a Connecticut dealer's license. We were working with Glickenhaus. We had bought a couple cars and we had commissioned their 709 Le Mans car. So we actually commissioned and owned that car throughout the program.

[Matt Farah]

Oh, okay.

[Nat Mundy]

I didn't realize that. So the car that came in third, the podium winning car, is ours.

[Matt Farah]

You still have it?

[Nat Mundy]

We do. We road and track rented Coda for us a couple years ago to play with it. Oh, cool. And had an absolute ball. Really, really neat. And then from there just picked up some other brands that were all sort of. A lot of it's resto mod based like you guys experienced today.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, I mean it's. And I, and I, we've got about 20 minutes before we have this hard out, but. And I do want to talk about the two cars that we drove today. But like you were, you, you called me and you were like, hey man, I'm gonna get into road cars. Because you were doing. You're just really doing race cars in the beginning, being at the track, which made sense. And I was like, okay. And you're like, I'm gonna do all the brands that nobody else will sell

[Nat Mundy]

that no one will touch.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. You're like. I was like, okay, what? Someone. That sounds like a good idea.

[Nat Mundy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Matt Farah]

And it actually was. So what is the portfolio? You have Glickenhouse, Gunther Works.

[Nat Mundy]

Gunther Works, Chimera, Nardone.

[Matt Farah]

What's Nardo?

[Nat Mundy]

The 928 restaurant.

[Matt Farah]

Oh, the 928 thing, right? Yeah. The soap bar looking kind of.

[Nat Mundy]

It's. So I get mine delivered at Monterey this year. Okay. Really excited for that car. If you remember, Those came with 5 liter V8s that were slow. They actually made it fast.

[Guest/Producer]

Sure.

[Nat Mundy]

Like it's a real car. Really excited about that one. We have Eccentrica.

[Matt Farah]

That's the Diablos.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Nat Mundy]

Driven. Which is the. Which is the. Which is the Evoluto.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Nat Mundy]

Which is the 355. As well as their sport products.

[Matt Farah]

I drove the Escort.

[Nat Mundy]

Everything that requires a donor car we essentially offer. Except for maybe Singer.

[Matt Farah]

Sure.

[Nat Mundy]

And I just.

[Matt Farah]

Well, they don't have dealers.

[Nat Mundy]

They sort of do. They have dealer partners that do test drives and things. I went with brands that spoke to me that I wanted in the collection, though. I mean, I have to say that like Chimera was a search for a. A crash F40 that we could repaint and make a custom color. And then when you math the math, you're like, I'll be $3 million into something that won't be worth three now. Of course they are. At the time it was like, that's kind of sacrilegious.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Nat Mundy]

And ended up with a. With a 037 in Verde Avaton green and just absolutely love it.

[Matt Farah]

The O30. The O37 is sort of like. It is. It's F40s.

[Nat Mundy]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

It does have a vibe of an F40. It's maybe not quite as sorted, but like you. It's got the same kind of vibe for sure.

[Nat Mundy]

Everything that we carry is meant to be driven. I feel like, though, because we have some great stuff in the collection that, you know, we're sort of not allowed to drive because God forbid, you know, we. We take something out and it, you know, the HK F40 or 288 gets a blemish that while Nat was driving, you know, 100 people on video got it while I clipped the mirror on the door to a parking garage or something. And then everyone talks about that car forever being. That's the car.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Nat Mundy]

Whereas with these. With these brands we carry, I feel like you could rack it up pretty good. Send it back to Chima or whoever. You'll get a brand new car afterward.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Nat Mundy]

And it's not going to have this sort of history of negativity, I guess.

[Matt Farah]

And people do. People care less about the miles and they care less about.

[Nat Mundy]

And people care less about the miles.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Guest/Producer]

Is that because, like, the Camar is so new that it hasn't become investment grade yet or not? Not Investment determined by low miles ever.

[Nat Mundy]

They've done so well though on the resale secondary markets virtually double from the original msrp. And that's real. And I think that it's just meant to be driven. I mean, you guys drove, you know, a, an advanced prototype 38 today. You know, driving that car for two and a half hours with the current setup might be a little bit more rough than what you'd want. Long run. But I think if someone wants to go for like the ultimate morning hell spin. Yeah, that's the car.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Nat Mundy]

I mean, it's a chainsaw. It makes all the right noises. Very symphonic, drivable thing, experience.

[Matt Farah]

It's, it's, it's incredibly overwhelming and intimidating if you are not like used to it and if you don't, if there's a lot of people around, if you don't know where you're going, if you're trying to like, figure out on the fly, it's just like, it's a lot. But at.

[Guest/Producer]

If.

[Matt Farah]

If what you're looking for is, you know, to go back to a time where a car made you sort of earn it, that's it.

[Nat Mundy]

I totally agree, but I think that's also like where I would rather see. I think people are fed up with all the tech in these cars. I mean, we have an SF, SF90, we have a 296. Both of them have had some hiccups, you know, with the hybrid system. All cars seem to have problems here and there. But it's nice to know, like, the simple diagnosis of things. The Chimas and the Gunther works etc can be worked on by a normal shop, you know, on a secondary Keen down the street can take care of both of those cars.

[Matt Farah]

Really. Like. So. Yeah. Where do you take. That's where you just take a Chimera anywhere. Yeah.

[Nat Mundy]

Flying doctor. If we have a heavy thing, we. Every car comes with a laptop. If we log into it remotely via someone's wireless and there's some major component, we send in a flying doctor. Otherwise we give instructions and they change the oil and. Or change the alternator. I mean, it's, it's, it's very modular, like a race car. But. Yeah, I never thought I'd be in the position where I'd be selling these kinds of things.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Because they're kind of weird.

[Nat Mundy]

Yeah. I went from hot dogs to, to.

[Guest/Producer]

And you never took them like a layover in selling BMWs down the street or like any major dealership when I was.

[Matt Farah]

You work in a Land Rover?

[Nat Mundy]

Yeah, when I, When I left Wall Street. I wanted to learn how to hire and fire people. And what better place than work at Land Rover, Right.

[Guest/Producer]

Where.

[Nat Mundy]

So at the time they just come out with the.

[Matt Farah]

With the sports.

[Nat Mundy]

Was that era that BMW. Tata. Was it Tata?

[Guest/Producer]

Who is it?

[Nat Mundy]

Yeah, BMW and Tata, like, handoff.

[Matt Farah]

Oh, of Land Rover.

[Nat Mundy]

Land Rover. It was at that time, it was

[Matt Farah]

like, no, no, wait. It went from BMW to Ford to Ford.

[Nat Mundy]

That's right.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Nat Mundy]

Because it had the Jaguar motor, Ford before Tata. So it was that time. So we had, like, half the cars we were selling had BMW motors in them still. Half of them didn't. And it was a great time to see kind of how a shop transitioned to different stuff, different technology. That's. That dealership is still in existence, and my buddy Ryan still owns it. And I learned a lot there. I learned really how to hire and fire, but also how to really sell luxury product. What I realized about Land Rover was that the typical Land Rover Range Rover customer just recycles. They just come back in.

[Matt Farah]

They just get the next one.

[Nat Mundy]

It's the next one. Like, literally the time the oil change is due, you'll see it just, like, dropped off and the new one comes back in. Yeah, but, yeah, that was. That was my only stand in car sales before this. And during. During COVID we had picked up Glicken house, and I took the gold car, which had gone up the hill at Goodwood the year before, and I put it in my trailer and my dog Guinness, and I drove around the country with a motorcycle on the bed of the truck, the. The car in the back of the trailer, and just did traveling salesmen everywhere. So I went down to Florida, down over to New Orleans, to Texas twice, back and forth into the sort of southeast corridor during the winter and sold cars. Wow. Wow.

[Matt Farah]

Just bringing it to, like, individual customers.

[Nat Mundy]

Yeah. Guys that had reached out, people that we knew would be interested and sort of, you know, went door too, like. Like an old school investment banker and

[Matt Farah]

sold out of that car covered in alligator or something.

[Nat Mundy]

That. That. That interior sitting in a crate downstairs right now.

[Matt Farah]

Crazy.

[Nat Mundy]

It does have a black interior now with some gold stitch. We've brought it.

[Matt Farah]

I remember they pulled this thing out. I was like, holy. This interior. I was alligator.

[Nat Mundy]

It was.

[Matt Farah]

It was crocodile. Ostrich. Ostrich.

[Nat Mundy]

Ostrich. And I'm about meeting you to drive that car because that was like a true. That was a really interesting analog experience. And that car is now at Roush, where Glickenhaus is producing the cars. Getting brought up to Crash tested spec.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. When are they actually, actually just going to start delivering those cars?

[Nat Mundy]

So car 7 is in build currently. That's going to a mutual friend of ours. And then car 4 is a factory prototype that they're building up. They'll do further testing with and get as many miles on as possible. And then every 35 days they'll be pumping out a car or two as they ramp up. But Roush motors, are they using LT4?

[Matt Farah]

That's the supercharger.

[Nat Mundy]

Supercharged 650 horse.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

From the Z06.

[Nat Mundy]

Correct. The old zo with a, with a chima six speed.

[Matt Farah]

Sure.

[Nat Mundy]

So just a. You know they can handle a lot more power.

[Guest/Producer]

It's.

[Matt Farah]

It's a sequential.

[Nat Mundy]

No, it's a, it's a gated manual.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Nat Mundy]

And three, is that the same.

[Matt Farah]

The same six speed transaxle as Pagani uses in the Utopia?

[Nat Mundy]

I believe so. It was theirs. And it's the, it's originally a helicopter transmission of some sort.

[Matt Farah]

Oh yeah, it is, yeah.

[Nat Mundy]

So it's got some, it's got proven to like take a ton of abuse and we're not worried about the transmission.

[Matt Farah]

They do, they did. It was something out of a helicopter.

[Guest/Producer]

An SSC use that we drove a car that used the helicopter.

[Matt Farah]

I think that was. SSC was.

[Guest/Producer]

SSC is automatic.

[Nat Mundy]

I know that's a robotized.

[Guest/Producer]

Okay.

[Nat Mundy]

So it's not fully automatic. Oh, it's doing. The SSCs are robotized transmission.

[Guest/Producer]

So I think it is the same.

[Matt Farah]

It might be sema. It might be sema. That sounds. That's where I heard helicopter.

[Guest/Producer]

The term helicopter transmission doesn't run a lot.

[Nat Mundy]

They do use it. They do, yeah, yeah, yeah. But those are two of the American brands. And then Gunther works down in Huntington Beach. Ton of fun.

[Matt Farah]

We just, we just drove the, the slant nose. The F26 which is total weapon.

[Guest/Producer]

Oh yeah.

[Matt Farah]

It's actually too much. It's like, it's like I, I love, I love Peter. I love what they do. There is a right amount of power for this car and that is not it. That is too much.

[Nat Mundy]

I love my Speedster. I have to say. Like I'm a. You know, I had my Targa that I've had forever 77 Targa and the Speedster. You know, the top off never bothered me. We live in an area where we know about rain way in advance. It's not Miami. And that thing for a naturally aspirated engine, it's quietly.

[Matt Farah]

No, those are. That's the correct one, I think. Yeah, if the weather's right the Speedster is great. But a lot of the Speedsters don't have heat and they certainly don't have windows and it could be a little bit chilly.

Yeah.

[Nat Mundy]

But if you, and also if you get a drizzle at like 38 miles an hour you get nothing in the car that's okay.

[Matt Farah]

I don't know

[Nat Mundy]

going.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Nat Mundy]

Roll through some stuff.

[Guest/Producer]

With the increased traffic here we had you know, a lot of stop and go so that might be a problem. But I think the power balance of this, of the Speedster is really good. And then like the dynamics of the suspension that Gunther works does is also really impressive which the Chimera also had. Like take that road pretty nice.

[Matt Farah]

The Chimera has a nice ride. It actually felt, you know, the gears feel really short in that car but I think that's actually just cuz it's so loud and you, you almost never get near red line because it feels like the thing's going to eat itself. But it's not. But it just like it's all like

[Nat Mundy]

I always tell, I liken it to like literally a cat in a blender. It's just so unsettling to us if you're not used to it. I've taken people for rides in that they just think the car's breaking the entire time.

[Matt Farah]

It's just really, really overwhelming with sensory and it's really a lot of things to think about at a time. And then we also drove this other thing you're doing called a 1511 which is, it's, it's, it's almost you you've gunthered or you've gone some of the way to gunthering a 914 effectively. It's, it's got a sort of integrated rigidity structure. It's not a roll cage but it's like some kind of structure that makes it tight. It's got a four liter water cooled engine. It's a pretty nasty little thing.

[Nat Mundy]

I think it's, it's probably one of those like in the restomod space right now it's probably one of the better values price wise. With a Porsche badge on it.

[Guest/Producer]

Sure.

[Nat Mundy]

You know, or without a badge. How much is it deliver without a badge? 395 quid. So around 550 USD.

[Matt Farah]

Are you selling in quid?

[Nat Mundy]

We're in Bedford but it's UK built so you pay them directly.

[Matt Farah]

Oh I see.

[Nat Mundy]

So you have to, you know, is it sort of look at yesterday we're in New England. It was about a $33 exchange rate not too long ago. But you know, it's fluctuated.

[Guest/Producer]

So how much of that car is carbon fiber or new panels?

[Nat Mundy]

Everything is carbon fiber on that car. Even the door skins on that.

[Guest/Producer]

Okay. Because you can see the weave through the, like the paint clear. Which is very cool. But do they keep like the original unibody at all? And then all the body panels that go on it are carbon fiber?

[Nat Mundy]

Yeah, the glide body panels on it are carbon fiber. But the, except the Targa bar, obviously. Right. Targa bar is still steel structure. And then underneath it, if you pop the hood in the trunk, you'll see all the added rigidity and structure they're adding into it. Also, the sills are much beefier.

[Guest/Producer]

Well, the sills have like a low, almost what you see like on a cage. But like inside that, the front hood is, it's really nicely shaped. The way they've, I guess buttressed and reinforced the wheel wells. I mean that thing handled great.

[Matt Farah]

It had a very nice ride, very nice steering. I liked the linear power. I don't like the manual brakes. I think it needs to have power boosters.

[Nat Mundy]

So we make a carbon ceramic for that which has a boosted.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, I, I would want a brake booster. I, I Even though the car's light, I, I, I've never driven a car that had any kind of power whatsoever that had manual brakes. Brakes that I thought was a good idea. I'm glad you can get power brakes as some kind of an option. I'd probably include the booster on the

steel brakes that are on it.

[Guest/Producer]

Yep.

[Matt Farah]

And then there's a, there's a, there's a weird bit of a, maybe a little hiccuping if you tip into the throttle a little too quickly. So it's a little, a little rough around the edges. But as a concept I liked it a lot.

[Nat Mundy]

I think the, the fuel pedal you're dealing with is all can bus, soft drive by wire. That's tunable out the I particularly, I like the main, I like the feel of a non boosted brake. If you remember, I had a gray 912 with a 3 liter in it back in the day. Yeah, this is kind of that next generation for me of that. When I was thinking about what I wanted in a car, I liked it more analog. But having driven the one that's in Colorado with the carbon ceramics we just delivered to a customer, that is, I think the better choice.

[Guest/Producer]

I was just surprised. It's got what Brembo six piston front, four rear, like these Are strong brakes. The car weighs nothing. And even getting real deep in the pedal, I felt like I was never slowing down as much as I wanted to. And I was like, that's surprising for a car that's so light. So either the booster or pad choice or whatever, but, like, look, I mean, as a concept, I mean, it's kind of like your spider at 60. 60% scale. You know, you shrink it a ton. But the seats are good, Position's good, shifting's great, Steering's great.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, like is a nice.

[Guest/Producer]

It's a really nice thing.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, it is a really nice thing. I could spend all day in it. It was great.

[Guest/Producer]

Feels real solid, very tight. Like, no wiggles or anything like that. And then you go over, you know, a lot of the pavement here. Looks like it was arc welded, but the thing just rides really nice.

[Nat Mundy]

Welcome to west.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah, it floats over it. It's good.

[Matt Farah]

No, it's.

[Guest/Producer]

It's a.

[Matt Farah]

It's a very tight little thing that. That's got a lot. I mean, it.

[Guest/Producer]

It.

[Matt Farah]

It FL feels like a very solidly made item. Even though the chimera is very nice, when you get back in this thing, which is number one of this car, it's just your first go at it. You go, Porsches are just better.

[Nat Mundy]

But I always said even our Myers makes anything that's got a flat engine in it of some sort. Seems to be so usable. I can take the gunther works to get groceries. The same thing with the 1511. You don't have to. It's not just to show up to the cars and coffee kind of car.

[Matt Farah]

No. And you can. In the 1511, you can just let off the clutch without giving it any gas, and it will just creep forward. So you can. In traffic or whatever.

[Nat Mundy]

It's.

[Matt Farah]

It's pretty nice.

[Nat Mundy]

Nice little torquey car.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Nat Mundy]

Yeah. It is a blast. I was really excited to have met Ben and do that as a JV with them. It's. I think it's a fun project. And everyone who's buying one is like. Like the real deal car guy.

[Matt Farah]

You kind of have to be. Because you're not gonna impress somebody by telling them that you've spent half a million bucks on a 914.

[Nat Mundy]

But if you look at 914 history and pedigree, it beat 9 11s in Lamoth.

[Matt Farah]

But you have to explain that to people, right?

[Guest/Producer]

Yes.

[Matt Farah]

They don't know. Just know that I guess that's not a thing. That is standard.

[Guest/Producer]

They. The 914 hasn't gotten, like, the praise and Marketing boost both from Porsche and from like the community that. Excuse me, that the air cooleds did. You know, starting 20 years ago with like Magnus, they haven't, they haven't had that moment. I think they're starting to. They've had a good showing at the luft events. Like, that section's been growing a lot and there's some really cool stuff there. And when they're turned up a bit, I mean, when, you know, you put the six in them or whatever, like, they're really exciting.

[Nat Mundy]

The 914 six was a great car to begin with. Like I said, two.2 liters people had two fives like strokers and then two sevens in them. I just feel like going liquid cooled wasn't sacrilegious.

[Guest/Producer]

I agree.

[Matt Farah]

I don't think so.

[Nat Mundy]

Made it more reliable.

[Guest/Producer]

Yep.

[Nat Mundy]

And. And cheaper to produce in reality. Less expensive to produce, I should say. And if you look at the. The drivability of that car because of it and it's not carbureted and it's not getting heat soaked and all the things that you'd have with a.

[Matt Farah]

Although the heat is coming out of the radiators and right into the cabin.

[Nat Mundy]

Is it.

[Matt Farah]

Right now it vents out of the. The side. You know, the, the, the side bit there.

[Nat Mundy]

How's your leg hair doing?

[Matt Farah]

Oh, no, not, not there.

[Guest/Producer]

Actually, your legs get cooled because when you turn the AC on, the only vent that seems to emit cold air is aimed at the. It blows at your feet, so it kind of fights with.

[Matt Farah]

It blows on your feet.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Nat Mundy]

I think if the target top was on those top vents would actually be

[Guest/Producer]

producing a. Oh, maybe through the defrost vents.

[Nat Mundy]

Yeah, you were, you were losing the. All of that was just flying out the door.

[Matt Farah]

That's hilarious. But I did like, outside of the brakes, which weren't my favorite, I did like how that car drives a lot. I thought the other inputs were very nice and the ride and handling and all that was really good.

[Nat Mundy]

The, the prototype was. Was loved in the uk. This was the first one for the US and customer cars starting to dropped off. But they are, like I said, the real deal. People like just some amazing customers are that are buying these. They like true Porsche customers and you

[Matt Farah]

get a nose lift on it. So this one's scrapy a little bit.

[Nat Mundy]

Did it a little bit. Okay. I mean, I think that's pretty well propped. I mean, obviously on the Gunther works you've got one and you have to use it like super low lip.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Nat Mundy]

And then. And the chimera When I picked it up from you guys, it was in full up mode.

[Matt Farah]

It was in full up mode.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Well, we.

[Guest/Producer]

He.

[Matt Farah]

We were.

[Guest/Producer]

I did that when I turned around.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, he did it when he turned around afterwards. Yeah. Yeah.

[Nat Mundy]

No, so I didn't know if you had driven around.

[Matt Farah]

I'd used it up. Put it up and down a couple of times. Yeah, it does work, actually. I mean, and the chimera is. Is I can't wear shoes in it. My feet.

[Nat Mundy]

I can't drive shoes on either.

[Matt Farah]

But once I'm sitting in it, it's actually quite comfortable.

[Guest/Producer]

Yep.

[Matt Farah]

I'm glad it has both belts.

[Nat Mundy]

Those are the comfort seats. And where that came into play was for a shorter guy. It's the only way to get a seat that comes up. Otherwise you're all the way at the pan and on the 1511. We've made the seat actually lower.

[Matt Farah]

I thought the. The shape of the seat was good. It could always go lower. Yeah. What's up?

[Guest/Producer]

How are you?

[Nat Mundy]

Hey, we're just filming something, but can you give me.

[Guest/Producer]

You are.

[Nat Mundy]

We're just filming something. I'm surprised the boys didn't say something.

[Matt Farah]

Give us five minutes.

[Nat Mundy]

Five minutes. Sorry. Ken, please, please.

[Matt Farah]

You can go right there. Okay. It happens.

[Nat Mundy]

Sorry.

[Matt Farah]

We really. We have. We probably have three minutes actually.

[Nat Mundy]

You guys.

[Guest/Producer]

Okay.

[Nat Mundy]

So you guys are off to go paint Crown Vicks.

[Matt Farah]

We're gonna go race. Yeah, we're gonna go race with Cletus tomorrow at Stafford Motor Speedway.

[Nat Mundy]

That's awesome.

[Matt Farah]

Crazy, you guys.

[Guest/Producer]

Different experience than the cars today.

[Nat Mundy]

The last time I raced there was in my. Was in a lemons race. And my entire insurance broker came with us as one of the teammates and crashed our car.

[Matt Farah]

Wow.

[Nat Mundy]

So it's like that was the last time I was there. And we back.

[Guest/Producer]

He's like, hey, will you tell the insurance company that Craigslist existed?

[Nat Mundy]

We found a Jetta. No, a Golf. We found a Jetta to replace the go a Jetta on Craigslist. Down the road to race to get the engine and transmission out. We had hit the wall. The front prop shaft had gone from through the. The transmission casing and made a hairline crack. So I was leaking oil. So we just picked up a whole engine and a whole car to swap the engine and transmission in.

[Guest/Producer]

That's lemons.

[Nat Mundy]

But you guys are gonna love Stafford Springs. It's so old school and so like

[Matt Farah]

it's a half mile oval.

[Nat Mundy]

Yeah, I think it's a half.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, Yeah. I mean, it's gonna be a show.

[Guest/Producer]

So Two hours of left. Left turns, man.

[Matt Farah]

Two lots of left.

[Guest/Producer]

Next. Gonna be sore.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, it's gonna be tough. But thanks, dude. Good to see you.

[Nat Mundy]

Thank you. Thanks for coming up and visiting.

[Guest/Producer]

A real quick one. Someone asked what's more essential, essential to a good hot dog? The bun or the meat?

[Nat Mundy]

Potato bun makes it okay.

[Matt Farah]

It goes a long way.

[Nat Mundy]

It does. If you're boiling them, they all taste the same. I'd say potato bun.

[Matt Farah]

My favorite new method for cooking a hot dog, Spiral. Cut it.

[Nat Mundy]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

In the Breville, like air toaster, air fryer thing. Like 12 minutes. You get delightfully crispy. It's very nice.

[Nat Mundy]

I like a butterfly if I'm going to grill it. But the carts are in on Sterno.

[Matt Farah]

Sure.

[Nat Mundy]

Because they were used within Shea Stadium, right?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gotta upgrade them shits.

[Nat Mundy]

Well, you guys will have to come back when Greenwich opens.

[Matt Farah]

Oh, in your show.

Yes.

[Nat Mundy]

Yeah.

[Guest/Producer]

You have a new, like, showroom builder.

[Matt Farah]

You're actually going to have a showroom.

[Guest/Producer]

You won't always be in front of this.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, yeah.

[Nat Mundy]

366 West Putnam Ave. Across the street from BMW.

[Matt Farah]

Right next to Ferrari Maserati.

[Nat Mundy]

Yep. And we're. We're opening up this winter and we'll. We'll have to have you guys come back for that.

[Guest/Producer]

Cool.

[Nat Mundy]

Sure.

[Matt Farah]

We will be there. Thank you, everybody. This is a short, short show, but we have to go to a 311 concert at Jones beach tonight.

[Guest/Producer]

Yep.

[Matt Farah]

It's a long way away, Nat. Monday, HK Motor Cars. We appreciate you. See you later.

[Nat Mundy]

Thanks, guys.

[Matt Farah]

Bye.