Matt Farah (3:49)

What's happening, everybody? Three people are really excited and the rest of you are like, I gotta listen to this guy now. Who are these people if you can't see us? This is not budget Seth Rogen talking. Although if you've got 50 bucks, I will absolutely be budget Seth rogen for free. 15 minutes. This is the Smoking Tire podcast. If you've never heard of me, I'm Matt. Matt Farah is the name. This is Zach Clapman right here.

Zach Klapman (4:15)

Howdy, everybody.

Matt Farah (4:16)

And believe it or not, we do this for a living. You wouldn't know it to look at us, but that guy bought our shirt, so it must be real.

Zach Klapman (4:24)

That proves it's real.

Matt Farah (4:25)

That's definitely real.

Zach Klapman (4:26)

We're going to do a bit later called roast your car. So if you want us to make fun of your car, it has to be your car. So you have to send a picture to this email address, it proves it's your car, and then we'll make fun of it.

Matt Farah (4:37)

We prefer it to be your car, but if we're not checking, I mean, let's be honest. So a car that could plausibly be your car is where we're at right now. This is a really amazing event. Thank you to the Smith family and of course, rick Hendrick and 1010 Crew for setting us up down here with this gig this morning. We got in, got to the track early before. Before most of y' all got here, and we got to rip some legends cars on the track. If you guys don't know what legends cars are, I mean, we're in Charlotte, so I imagine many you do. But the folks at home, these are like 2/3 sized race cars.

Zach Klapman (5:16)

Yeah, it's a. It's a grocery cart with a motorcycle engine.

Matt Farah (5:19)

Yes.

Zach Klapman (5:20)

And they tell you it has a roll cage in it, which it does in theory.

Matt Farah (5:23)

It does have a roll cage. Which you almost tested the this morning.

Zach Klapman (5:26)

That's true. I did. But all the legends spin. Where's Tommy? Yeah, you can vouch for me.

Matt Farah (5:31)

Real drivers push. And so we got to have a go with these things, I think. Are they still over there? Yeah, I think they're still parked over there. You guys have to go check these things out. They're like 25,000 bucks new. And we, we test supercars like literally for a living. That's actually our job. These things rip. They Rev to like 115 sequential gearbox. They weigh 1200 pounds and they are twitchy. It's. It's like bull riding on a fleet.

Zach Klapman (6:00)

Yeah. I think if you can drive one of those successfully after that, anything else is easy mode.

Matt Farah (6:04)

Yeah, absolutely.

Zach Klapman (6:05)

But it's definitely the most fun per. Per penny, really. Not per dollar because they're pretty cheap.

Matt Farah (6:10)

And I was in one car. Zach was in another car. We were lapping, lapping, lapping. I came in for a break because if you can tell how do you think someone this size fits in a 2/3 scale car? The answer is I do. But it's ugly. It's ugly. Friends. You. It's not a complimentary angle on video. And I have to drive barefoot which if the car catches on fire or I crash, that could be quite painful.

Zach Klapman (6:34)

I think those cars were made for children. And then we have taken them cuz they're more fun. Cuz it wasn't that easy for me to get in it either.

Matt Farah (6:40)

Well, I. As I came in and took a little. A little rest, I had a thought of how long will it take me to get out of this car?

Zach Klapman (6:47)

Car.

Matt Farah (6:48)

And so when I got out, I tried to get out as quick as I could. I would die in a fire, folks. The an I would. I mean I would absolutely be dead in a fire. I would not make it out under pressure. It would be. It would be horrible.

Zach Klapman (7:00)

You feel like cooking ham in the can.

Matt Farah (7:02)

I. I got out of this car. The. In the order of body parts of mine that touched the ground, normally it would just be foot and then other foot. No, no, no, my friends. For me to get out of a legends car. Left hand. These are parts of your body that touch the ground in. In this order. Left hand, right hand, left elbow, left hip, left knee, right knee, left foot, right foot. It's effectively a who's seeing the wolf of Wall street.

Zach Klapman (7:39)

Right. You're Leonardo DiCaprio.

Matt Farah (7:41)

I'm the inverse of Leonardo DiCaprio. Getting into, into that Lamborghini is me getting out of one of those cars. Steve Madden. Sparkle, sparkle.

Zach Klapman (7:54)

Trying to crawl out while you're on fire.

Matt Farah (7:56)

Oh my God. That's speaking of crimes.

Zach Klapman (7:59)

Yeah, yeah, let's go.

Matt Farah (8:00)

We had some, we had a, we had a thought. You know, nascar, the foundations of NASCAR are, are obviously well documented in crime bootlegging. Right. It's like they were so good at the crimes, they made it a sport. Like we should all be so lucky with our crimes. I mean, I've done a lot of crimes in my life. None of them were a competitive sport and frankly, I regret that. But we thought, you know, because the legends cars sort of look like old bootlegger cars and because, you know, NASCAR has its history in that racing as an enterprise has been bred. Many criminals like racing and crime like really, really go well together. Partially because it's so expensive. You know, regular people have to do crimes to do it. And many people, the draw of racing is so powerful that people will beg, borrow and steal in order to do it. And that has, has resulted in a whole bunch of like very funny racing crimes.

Zach Klapman (9:03)

Absolutely. Especially decades ago when it was a little harder to enforce such crime.

Matt Farah (9:08)

Right? Yes. When there weren't video cameras on everything and you know, and we weren't giving away our privacy all the time. And. And so we thought we would come up with a list of our favorite motorsport adjacent crimes. And there's some, there's some pretty dark ones in there, folks. We left them out. There's some really terrible people that have been behind the wheel of a race car. And for the most part we only kept the funny one in. Funny ones in. So the biggest one, the most obvious racing crimes is effectively the entire 1986 IMSA grid. Right. Everyone sort of knows about this. They called it the International Marijuana Smugglers Association. That was the acronym. It was very funny. In the 80s, especially the early to mid-80s, they smuggled weed, which is not very spatially efficient. They got better and smarter at this later. But you've got John Paul Senior and John Paul Jr. That raced at Le Mans, all on drug money. And you've got Randy Lanier, who wrote this amazing book. Oh my God. What's Randy's book name? Survival of the Fastest. It's called Survival of the Fastest. Randy Lanier, if you never heard of him, was a 1986 IndyCar Rookie of the year driving A blank white car. He had no sponsors. He was doing the duffel shuffle up and down the East Coast. This guy bought a whole barge, a container barge, and filled it with a thousand tons of weed. And he put all of that money into his racing team. And he actually won the image. Excuse me, the IMSA championship in 1986. Now, what's funny about that? He did it with no sponsors. He called his team Blue Thunder Racing. Does anybody know the inside joke of Blue Thunder Racing, what that name is really from? No. Great. I'll tell you. There was a guy called Ben Kramer who raced offshore powerboats. And he started a company called Apache Powerboats. Maybe you guys have heard of him with a guy called Don Aronau. Don Aronow was the founder of a brand called Donzi. He also founded Cigarette. Big offshore powerboat guy, right? So obviously all the drug runners were buying boats from Don Aronau, Right? Including Ben Kramer, the offshore powerboat champion who used his racing boat to run weed and did over £500,000 of it. Okay, so the name Blue Thunder is because the U.S. customs Service asked Don Aronau to designed them a boat to catch the drug smugglers. Now, of course, he was also selling boats to the drug smugglers. So who do you think got the better boats? Obviously the people with deeper pockets, the drug smugglers. And so when he sold the boats to the fb the to Customs, those boats were called Blue Thunder. And they couldn't catch the drug runners.

Zach Klapman (12:14)

So weird.

Matt Farah (12:14)

And Randy Lanier named his racing team afterwards after them to tease them about it. Now, Randy Lanier did 27 years in prison. John Paul also went to prison. The Whittingtons won the 24 hours of Le Mans using coke money during this period of time. And Ben Kramer allegedly had Don Aronau killed over a dispute. And he's in prison too, although he denies it. So the 80s were awesome, you guys.

Zach Klapman (12:44)

They knew how to hire the right people. They hired the right engineers. Credit to Randy for driving. I mean, some of the drivers here today probably raced against these people.

Matt Farah (12:51)

Oh, for sure.

Zach Klapman (12:52)

I don't know if they have any stories. Probably the. Maybe they tell them later. Off mic with some Bill Elliott was there.

Matt Farah (12:57)

That car is from the same year. It's amazing to be in the same room as that as that car. By the way, I saw that car raced as a. As an eight year old in Atlanta. The Atlanta Journal 500 in 1989. You got some crime for me too.

Zach Klapman (13:10)

So Speaking of boats, 1982 was a pretty special year. For NASCAR regarding crimes. February 19th, five drivers and 65 other people got indicted for smuggling $300 million of cocaine and marijuana.

Matt Farah (13:29)

Right. That's a. That should get a round of applause. That's hard.

Zach Klapman (13:31)

Are you impressed by their work ethic or are you a fan of.

Matt Farah (13:34)

No, I'm just kidding.

Zach Klapman (13:36)

Drivers, Gary.

Matt Farah (13:37)

That's where they smuggled it.

Zach Klapman (13:38)

And William Harvey, which is a. William Joseph Harvey. Sounds like a serial killer. They drove in the week previous is Daytona 500, and they finished 11th and 39th. So I think we know which driver did coke and which was the weed.

Matt Farah (13:52)

The lead driver.

Zach Klapman (13:53)

If you get 11th, you're focused. 39th, you're chilling. Let's see. The U.S. attorney said that race cars were filled with marijuana often and trucked across different states. And of course, they use the race mechanics to tune the boats to smuggle the drugs from the Bahamas. So that's how they brought everything in.

Matt Farah (14:10)

That's like what F1 does. They have to build the Red Bull street car, right? Yeah, it's the same thing.

Zach Klapman (14:16)

I just feel like these folks had a real busy off season and they didn't really care.

Matt Farah (14:19)

They were so productive.

Zach Klapman (14:22)

Oh, my favorite part was a driver named Dave Marcus had a quote. He said, I don't know if this will give NASCAR a black eye because it doesn't involve that many people. 75 drivers, he's like, that's what, 12% of the.

Matt Farah (14:35)

It's only one team, you guys. So get. All right, so everyone was selling drugs in the 80s. Got it. Here's someone who wasn't selling drugs. Drugs, just good old fashioned stealing. Anyone ever heard of an Englishman named James Monroe? Not one of our early presidents. Anyone know about a James Monroe? Raced in the British GT Championship, 1999. Probably didn't hear of him, but he was working at a company called Simon and Schuster. They published books. Maybe you guys have heard of him. Okay, well, he was making $51,000 a year as a copywriter at Simon and schuster. And in 1998, he bought a McLaren F1. Brand new chassis number 069. It was $897,000 at the time. So what is that? Who's good at math? Is that 16 years salary? 18 years salary. So he bought that car on 51 grand. A year.

Zach Klapman (15:30)

A year later, you know what he did not buy? Avocado toast. He saved his money.

Matt Farah (15:35)

He didn't get a lot.

Zach Klapman (15:36)

Buy a lot of coffee. This is how you can do it.

Matt Farah (15:38)

And then a year later, Mr. Monroe wants to go racing. So, you know, spec Miata obviously. No, right? No. He bought McLaren F1 Long Tail, chassis number 027R and so on. $51,000 a year. This man owned two McLaren F1s at once. He raced the race car for about a half a season until. Until a TV interview wanted to talk to him about what it's like to own two McLaren F1s. Someone at Simon and Schuster was watching television and was like that. That news. That's. That's not. And he had stolen $5.4 million and

Zach Klapman (16:21)

went to prison, as De Niro said. And what was it? Goodfellas don't buy anything. Like. What did I say?

Matt Farah (16:25)

Nothing. Nice. What did I say?

Zach Klapman (16:27)

You make no money. You bought two McLarens. You an idiot.

Matt Farah (16:30)

So that those cars are still around. The. The red one is one of those. Is one of the hark ones. The race car and the black one. 069 Road car.

Zach Klapman (16:42)

He.

Matt Farah (16:42)

While he had it before he got busted, he sent it back to get the high downforce kit put on it has since had the high downforce kit taken off it. I looked up the chassis Ed Bowley and you probably tell us about it. Chassis 069 is black with black wheels.

Ed Bolian (16:57)

Now.

Matt Farah (16:58)

Actually not a great look.

Zach Klapman (16:59)

No.

Matt Farah (17:00)

17s in black are not really where I'm at. Do you have another good one?

Zach Klapman (17:05)

I had one more. It's not really. It's. It's not a crime. It's almost a heartwarming story, but we're going to need pictures.

Matt Farah (17:09)

My last one is heartwarming as well.

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Zach Klapman (24:41)

Anybody heard of a NASCAR driver named Tim Flock?

Matt Farah (24:44)

NASCAR people in Charlotte, Maybe you've heard

Zach Klapman (24:46)

of his co driver. Yes, it was like the only famous co driver ever named Jocko Flaco. And Jocko Flacco was a monkey. Capuchin monkey, rhesus monkey.

Matt Farah (24:58)

Oh, sorry.

Zach Klapman (24:58)

He drove eight races with Jocko in the passenger seat. And Jocko had a little uniform and stuff. Do you think Jocko had a harness? You'd think he did. He didn't. You know why I know that? Because Jocko found the trap door that drivers use to escape. On the ninth race, he poked his head out and saw that he was a monkey in a moving race car and he freaked out and he started clawing Tim's face up. And Tim had to pull into the pits and toss the monkey out the window. And he lost a spot and $600

Matt Farah (25:27)

stop and go penalty. Stop and go with drive through penalty.

Zach Klapman (25:30)

Yeah, drive through penalty with a freaking monkey.

Matt Farah (25:32)

I, I didn't read the face eating part of that story when I originally got to it. Okay, the, our, our perhaps most heart, most heartwarming motorsport crime involves a guy whose name we don't know. They just call him Phantom racing driver. And for six years, apparently about every month this gentleman would take his Dallara GP2 Formula 22 car and drive it on the street in the, in the Czech Republic. And maybe you've seen photos of it. It was red like a, like a Marlboro liveried kind of F1 car from the 90s. And he was apparently finally spotted at a gas station followed to his house. They knocked on his door. He answered in a racing suit and said, I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. And they took him to jail. He was 51 years old.

Zach Klapman (26:22)

He's still wearing the bank robber mask. It's cold in here.

Matt Farah (26:25)

This guy hated the rest of his life so much. This was all he had. We don't know. We know. I read like seven articles, no names. A 51 year old man is all we got.

Zach Klapman (26:34)

Couldn't put on a robe, Nothing. Couldn't.

Matt Farah (26:36)

Wow, he's got nothing.

Zach Klapman (26:37)

There are some really dumb criminals out there and that's one of them.

Matt Farah (26:40)

Let's, let's bring up some friends on the show. We got Mr. Ed Bolian of Vin Wiki is in the house. Wait, we need to get you a chair.

Ed Bolian (26:49)

I can do that.

Matt Farah (26:50)

Have a chair. You guys know this guy? He's, he's very famous. He is a very famous. And he has driven here from Atlanta in a 1998 Diablo. Is it an 898 SV?

Ed Bolian (27:04)

The Vs vs car.

Matt Farah (27:06)

Tell me about your road trip yesterday.

Ed Bolian (27:09)

A lot of bugs which fortunately were just removed by one of the lovely locals detailers here, Pedro. But yeah, had a nice drive in and despite this car sitting for about 14 years before I bought it, it has behaved itself quite nicely.

Matt Farah (27:22)

They do that when they, when they are driven.

Ed Bolian (27:24)

Right.

Matt Farah (27:25)

How many Lamborghini does Ed Bolian have right now?

Ed Bolian (27:30)

I, I have three right now or the bank I know has three and they let me drive them as long as I comply with their terms.

Matt Farah (27:35)

Right, okay, but that's not your high. Didn't you have more than, than three at one point concurrently?

Ed Bolian (27:41)

I, Yes, I would have had four at one point. But you know, that's the, the greatest privilege of content creation is we get to justify all these things and.

Matt Farah (27:49)

No. Yeah. What's your count right now? How many cars do you have?

Ed Bolian (27:52)

I think 10.

Matt Farah (27:53)

I, I love when people get to. When they have to start with I think yes or they don't.

Ed Bolian (27:58)

It's a moving target.

Matt Farah (27:59)

Okay, so you, you, you're right now ahead.

Ed Bolian (28:01)

Ahead of you.

Matt Farah (28:02)

I'm down to eight.

Ed Bolian (28:03)

Oh, that's very responsive.

Zach Klapman (28:04)

Possible.

Matt Farah (28:04)

Who in this room has more than 10 cars? Raise your hand. Anyone here? That one back there. We got more than ten. Okay.

Ed Bolian (28:11)

There you go.

Matt Farah (28:12)

Mr. Hendrick, nice to see you.

Ed Bolian (28:15)

There we go.

Zach Klapman (28:16)

No.

Matt Farah (28:16)

Anyone else? More than 10? All right. Are they.

Ed Bolian (28:18)

They don't all work, obviously. Well, of course they don't all work.

Matt Farah (28:21)

They're not supposed to all work.

Ed Bolian (28:24)

No show eligible.

Matt Farah (28:25)

No it is a very legit car. And maybe Mr. 10 Cars back there knows is a very legit part of a comprehensive collection strategy to musical chairs your cars. And you gotta have a couple at the shop being worked on the garage. Imagine they all came home. You'd be hosed.

Ed Bolian (28:43)

Yeah. Outside. Yeah. And that's when the trees fall on them. And the things that Hagerty doesn't cover happen.

Matt Farah (28:48)

I interviewed a guy for Road and Track last month. Go pick up the new issue of Road and Track on newsstands who has 75 cars, his collection. And I was like, you know, are they all here? And he's like, oh, God, no. Absolutely not. He said, if they all came back, I would be in a huge state of trouble. He's like, they're. They're spread out across the globe at, you know, repair shops and whatever. So your recent mission, in the last 12 months since I last saw you in Florida, buying a, quote, cheap Bugatti Veyron, which is a crazy thing to say, crazy series of words to say. But. But it's all relative. Driving it from South Florida back to Atlanta and then pretty much just using it as a car, which is a wonderful car. And when you had bought it, I was there the day you took delivery, and you were very concerned about what you were going to do about the tires. So will you just remind everybody of the. The saga of the Veyron's tires and what you've actually come up with?

Ed Bolian (29:49)

Yeah. So the Veyron has obviously, obviously the reputation of everything being catastrophic when it comes to maintenance and servicing. And there is very good truth to most of that, but it's actually just better documented than Koenigsegg and Pagani and LaFerrari and things like that, how much they actually cost to keep going. But the tires are the biggest thing because it uses a system of Michelin tires called Pax P A X. And they are glued to the rims. They are asymmetrical laterally, so the inner diameter is different than. Than the external diameter. They were used on a few early Maybachs, a few early Phantoms, and 2005-2009 Honda Odyssey minivans. And yes, there we go.

Matt Farah (30:28)

By the way, the best generation of Odyssey, those. I had one of them, everyone. They're awesome.

Ed Bolian (30:33)

They're.

Matt Farah (30:34)

They're. That was a great van.

Ed Bolian (30:35)

A lot of aftermarket wheels on that generation of Odyssey. And so they, in addition to spending $45,000 per set of tires, they instruct that you replace the rims every three sets which, depending on the design, are 100 to $130,000, which ain't nobody got time for that. And so I found a lovely company in China that would make them for 500 bucks a wheel that looked just like mine. So much so that Bugatti has posted my car on their Instagram account a few times with them on it. And they are, they accommodate normal sized tires?

Zach Klapman (31:07)

Do they accommodate 265 miles per hour?

Ed Bolian (31:10)

I can speak to 200, but I. Beyond that.

Matt Farah (31:13)

So you're. You become a YouTuber if you try that. That's it, that's, that's where, that's like where all of this is heading is you having all four tires separate at 243, you know, like, you won't believe

Zach Klapman (31:30)

what happened to my Bugatti.

Matt Farah (31:32)

Imagine the center card, though.

Ed Bolian (31:33)

That's right. Yeah. The thumbnails. It writes itself, really, the clickbait. But fortunately it has behaved itself very nicely since that day. We saw some overheating early on. We saw some, you know, but overall it's been a lovely automobile.

Matt Farah (31:48)

And just, just in case people aren't quite aware of the, the provenance. The provenance of this Veyron is, is truly unparalleled. Can I have the owners in order that they owned the car, please?

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Ed Bolian (35:33)

Well, first it was Bugatti themselves that that's who decided that red over red with red wheels was the play. And then they sold it to one of the partners at Symbolic Motor Cars who were later arrested for trying to fix a mayoral election with some laundered money.

Matt Farah (35:48)

Motorsport. Motorsport crime. We'll add that to the next show

Zach Klapman (35:51)

Talk about small potatoes. Prime.

Matt Farah (35:53)

Yes. Symbolic. That was a big one.

Ed Bolian (35:55)

Then they sold it to Birdman, and now most people think that's from the Miami Heat, but no. Of cash money. Millionaires. And he gave it to Justin Bieber for a while. And Justin Bieber and Soulja Boy were photographed driving it around a lot.

Matt Farah (36:08)

Was it ever titled to Justin Bieber?

Ed Bolian (36:10)

I don't believe so. I'm also not sure it was ever titled to Birdman because it was later collateralized against a record sporting studio, along with his primary residence, which both became owned by the bank. The bank sold it to Floyd Mayweather, who bought it to preemptively celebrate beating Conor McGregor in that fight they set up. And so Mayweather had it for a little while. He's had a bunch of Bugattis and other hypercars. And then it was sold by way of the nephew of the Whittington brothers, who you've mentioned.

Matt Farah (36:37)

Oh, yeah. Yep.

Ed Bolian (36:38)

RD Whittington of wires only to little Uzi versus Who I was not terribly familiar with, but we're all familiar with. Okay. Yeah.

Matt Farah (36:46)

This crowd is a big Uzi Vert fans here. Yeah.

Ed Bolian (36:49)

There we go. So somebody called me Big Eddie Vert. Now that I.

Matt Farah (36:53)

That's all right.

Ed Bolian (36:54)

Yeah. Which.

Matt Farah (36:55)

That'd be a good license plate if you didn't get the one you got.

Ed Bolian (36:57)

That's it. Yes. So. And then it went to a drug dealer in Miami, and then to me.

Matt Farah (37:02)

Oh, of course it did. Yeah. That's. I mean, just. This is very important question. Viagra.

Ed Bolian (37:09)

I did. I was not.

Matt Farah (37:10)

It was the president of Pfizer and it was Viagra. That's what it was.

Zach Klapman (37:13)

I think that's what we call a vehicular layover.

Ed Bolian (37:15)

Is it?

Zach Klapman (37:16)

Rich people. Rich people. Ritual drug dealer. Ed.

Ed Bolian (37:19)

Yeah. And that is a very common series.

Matt Farah (37:21)

That is. That is the. The life of a. Of a tired supercar. Eventually, it all just funnels down to bullion.

Ed Bolian (37:29)

And fortunately, I was able to get the EB License plate for Ettore Bugatti and Ed Bolian by way of unfortunately reaching recently deceased person that had it on a 2001 Taurus.

Matt Farah (37:38)

That's crazy. Well, maybe one day. Maybe one day I can become criminal enough and my car can be decrepit enough that you could be its next custodian.

Ed Bolian (37:49)

Everybody's gonna have a framer.

Matt Farah (37:50)

They ever rebuild it? I have. I have one Lamborghini divided into 1500 parts right now. It's great. Okay, let's talk about collecting. Car collecting right now. Because you study the market and we are in some weird times where the cars like the Ferrari Enzo have out of nowhere doubled and tripled in value. Cars like the Carrera gt, which sat at, you know, a mil to a mill, five forever, are now all of a sudden worth double and triple that. I mean, we, you and I, the people that like manual transmissions and cars that work sort of saw this is coming, but not maybe so sharply and to such a ridiculous degree. What do you think?

Ed Bolian (38:33)

Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of fun factors that are happening. There's a tremendous transfer of wealth into the people who identified with these cars and saw them on Top Gear and in video games and, you know, all of the things that really were big indoctrinating factors differently than the kind of race on Sunday sell on Monday idea like it was see on MTV Crips dream for 20 years, build your credit up and then participate in the market

Matt Farah (38:57)

or drive it in Gran Turismo is often cited as, as one.

Ed Bolian (39:01)

Yeah, for sure. And all of that is true. And so those people are coming into the market as these cars are now 10, 20, 30 years old. And that has been really, really effective to push the values upward. We've also seen that the, the availability of credit based on the recognition of these as like an asset class has become more pertinent. And so I heard recently that a bank is trying to deploy $2 billion this year on 1985-2015 supercars.

Matt Farah (39:32)

Wait, wait, wait, wait. So there the bank is actively seeking idiots like us that have like a little bit of money to come and borrow their money to buy collectible cars

Zach Klapman (39:47)

called the Birdman model.

Ed Bolian (39:48)

That's it.

Matt Farah (39:48)

It is.

Zach Klapman (39:49)

You let him buy the car, it goes up, you take it, you lose the money, and then you own it and you flip it on bat.

Ed Bolian (39:54)

Letting other people take depreciation on our behalf has always been a big part of the business model. But then there is inevitably a point where they bottom out, usually about 10 years old. And then there is at least the chance that the trajectory could change. And you can score that based on rarity and, you know, the, the desirability of manual cars and things that are no longer generally able to be produced. And so, you know, it's, it's not necessarily easy to see the writing on the wall, but it's not, you know, rocket science.

Matt Farah (40:21)

Yeah. What's what, value wise, where are swapped manual cars ending up?

Ed Bolian (40:27)

You know, fortunately, that's been happening longer in Ferraris than in Lamborghinis. We are now seeing swaps in mercy's and things of that nature. And has he driven one?

Matt Farah (40:34)

Does it work?

Ed Bolian (40:35)

I haven't. I have. All of the chats are mixed on that. But you know, theoretically it could. They can be made to work with the Ferraris. You pay decent retail money plus the cost of the conversion. There's no convenience fee added in most cases on a 360430 575.

Matt Farah (40:51)

But there's also no reduction in value because it's been modified. Because Ferrari people can be kind of wieners about modifying their cars.

Ed Bolian (40:59)

Correct. Now we haven't seen it yet in the wake of the of scuds and 16ms. And challenge for dollies exploding in value and having that same two 300% increase. And so that's where I think we will start to see some deduction. But you know, again, most people are accumulating these cars for their credit in their Ferrari app. And so that. That does not score differently. The same way a LaFerrari prototype doesn't score differently than one with a title.

Matt Farah (41:22)

That. That is really interesting, isn't it? So I can't believe. And on may many maybe you guys, if you watch auctions. What auction was that at the prototype.

Ed Bolian (41:32)

Oh, they sell all the time. Because somebody just needs to have it for like six months for it to score in their app and then they move it to the next person.

Matt Farah (41:37)

It's. It's is a real thing you're talking about?

Ed Bolian (41:40)

Oh, absolutely, yes.

Matt Farah (41:41)

The Ferrari app.

Ed Bolian (41:43)

Yes. So that's how they score them. So you load all of your VINs into the app and then that gives you your score and that's how you get allocated.

Matt Farah (41:50)

I legitimately don't know if he's joking or not.

Zach Klapman (41:53)

Serious.

Ed Bolian (41:53)

You can put your 328 in there. All the cars you've ever owned can go in there. But then.

Matt Farah (41:56)

Oh, this is real.

Ed Bolian (41:57)

Yes.

Matt Farah (41:58)

Yeah, absolutely.

Ed Bolian (41:59)

And that's how losers.

Matt Farah (42:01)

Are you kidding me?

Zach Klapman (42:02)

It's. This is Pokemon Go Ferrari.

Matt Farah (42:03)

This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life. The car is sitting there. What do I need in an app for?

Ed Bolian (42:08)

So they can score it and then tell you whether you're worthy.

Matt Farah (42:11)

Ew. I. I hate everything. That's awful. That's. That's when people like ah, they're ruining cars. It's not electric cars. Cars. It's the Ferrari app that's ruining cars. That is crazy, Ed. Well, you run so mad. I know about that now.

Zach Klapman (42:25)

It's not a cool car unless a bunch of 60 year old incels tell you it's a cool car.

Matt Farah (42:30)

Oh, dude. And you already know Ferrari Chat was the worst forum on the planet and now we've just applified for now it's got NFTs.

Ed Bolian (42:38)

It used to be your signature. That's how you. Yeah. Previous Ferrari's own to qualify your advice on Ferrari Chat now it's in the.

Matt Farah (42:45)

Yeah. So in, in the Ed Bolian score. Give me three cars to buy in the next five years. Maybe three cars to sell.

Ed Bolian (42:54)

There you go. So, you know, I think that you see a lot of cars step up and, and there are cars that we are definitely noticing that 550 Marinellos have felt that way for a while and even amongst the, the cars that have jumped like crazy, it's hard to say that they've really, you know, kept up in terms of how specific special they are to own and things like that. You're always going to do well with cars that are about to pass a difference of appeal to the marketplace. So like right now I would say that buying a 996 GT2 is perfect, especially if you buy it not in the US because it's within 12 months of being able to come in. Tom's here with his 996. It's got 750,000 miles on it. And so one of the best storied 911s that is exist and it's proven that this is a car that can last, can be driven. Magnus just sold his car for good money.

Matt Farah (43:41)

And so what did Magnus get for that GT2, do you know?

Ed Bolian (43:44)

About 30, but okay.

Matt Farah (43:45)

Yeah, that's.

Ed Bolian (43:45)

Yeah, so that's, I mean it's a

Matt Farah (43:47)

lot of miles, but that's like for a very rare, a rare car, you know, in the more time that goes by, I think it probably will be more and more appreciated. Okay, so 996 GT2, that's a good one.

Ed Bolian (43:58)

You know, even though they have certainly gone up, I think any V12, maybe manual Lambo is always going to be a good option there. I think that the, the reality of how few there really are in the ways that are different than if you tried to build the vertical of Ferrari hypercars or the vertical of a lot of other cars that are recognized already as special. To me that works.

Matt Farah (44:18)

Yeah, like there's fewer manual mercy's than there are like, you know, LaFerraris basically.

Ed Bolian (44:26)

I mean that Diablo SV, there's 300, 143 of that is exactly the production of Duesenbergs. And so it's just a different recognition of what makes cars rare? What makes cars special. And I think that when we look at these events 20, 30 years from now, it's going to look more like MTV Cribs than it does look like a pre war celebration Concord. And so that's what we seem.

Matt Farah (44:48)

I certainly hope that will include 2003 Escalades on spinners with TV.

Ed Bolian (44:53)

Absolutely. Yes. All the places.

Matt Farah (44:55)

I firmly believe if you went to a car show with Sprewell spinners today, you would probably get a trophy.

Ed Bolian (45:00)

Oh, we have Radwood across the street tomorrow. Somebody's looking to dethrone the McLaren F1. So you know, a spinner 04 Escalade,

Matt Farah (45:08)

that could do it.

Ed Bolian (45:09)

Or 99 Escalade.

Matt Farah (45:10)

Okay. Couple cars to sell. What are, what, what do we think is, is time to move on from.

Ed Bolian (45:16)

Well, every auction for the next two years is going to have a, a special color Enzo in it. So there are a lot of people that say that that bump from 4 million to teens, that's just potentially unsustainable. So if I had a great one, I would probably let somebody else anticipate what it does after that. You know, by that same token, as much as I love a 430 Scuderia or a Stradale, when they start to be 7 8, $900,000, it's a little hard for me to get there. So some, sometimes cars take that step up and it's time to pull the rip cord. And so that would probably be my thought there.

Matt Farah (45:50)

Yeah, I don't, I don't view that as a seven hundred thousand dollar driving or owner owner ownership experience. But that's just me. What do I know?

Ed Bolian (45:59)

Lots of fun.

Matt Farah (46:00)

I like that. I would say, I would say for buy. I think still undervalued. 94 Ferrari 348s. Only the 94s. Nobody likes 91s the 92s anymore. But the 94s are awesome and they have better steering than the 355 and they're cheaper to run and they look great. I like those.

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Matt Farah (46:21)

What's a buy?

Zach Klapman (46:22)

I'm still waiting for R8s to do anything because I love them so much, but they just stay asleep. Possibly V8 Vantage S's first gen. First gen Vantage S's.

Matt Farah (46:34)

I think it could be a good buy.

Ed Bolian (46:36)

They were shockingly good. Good and great colors, some great specs. They're built season of Aston. I agree with that.

Matt Farah (46:42)

Yeah. How about, how about the V12 Vanquish?

Ed Bolian (46:45)

You know, I love them and waiting

Matt Farah (46:46)

for it to pop for 10 years.

Ed Bolian (46:48)

Ian Callum just put a post out saying he wanted somebody to wide body it. He's got a special.

Matt Farah (46:52)

Did you see that? You guys follow Ian Callum, the designer on Instagram. He's a good follow and he's a lovely guy and he's, he continually tries to reinvent the vanquish in, in interesting ways. Don't know if it's really working, but

Ed Bolian (47:05)

it's not working for Horacio Pagani either. But it was.

Matt Farah (47:09)

That's cold. Pagani owners here, sensitive crowd. Okay. So we want to, we want to have you stick around for this bit because Zach and I each came up with a million dollar garage for Charlotte, North Carolina. What is a million dollar spread of money across cars look like in this city to some idiots from Los Angeles?

Ed Bolian (47:35)

Okay.

Matt Farah (47:36)

It's where we come to your town and judge you to your face.

Ed Bolian (47:38)

Well, like most things in my life, it's going to have a more, a more European car bent.

Matt Farah (47:42)

Sure.

Ed Bolian (47:43)

I think I would start with something, you know, you got to start with your Halo car, which to me would be the worst possible title situation on a early Mercy Roadster. It's got, we got great weather. It's easy to anticipate here. It doesn't pop up in rain in 5 seconds like South Florida. So you could drive a mercy roadster. Probably 300 grand there.

Matt Farah (48:02)

For the worst title.

Ed Bolian (48:04)

Yeah, for the absolute worst one. And then I think I'd go with an slr. Love an slr. I know you hate them.

Matt Farah (48:10)

I hate them.

Ed Bolian (48:10)

I know you do.

Matt Farah (48:11)

Yeah. They drive like absolute trash.

Ed Bolian (48:12)

That depends on which one. They all drive very differently. I would have to test.

Zach Klapman (48:15)

That's a fun game.

Matt Farah (48:17)

That's not something I'm looking for.

Zach Klapman (48:18)

That's what I'm looking for from Mercedes 80s. Yeah.

Ed Bolian (48:20)

You know, and it's, it's interestingly not ownership based because the best one I ever drove was the one that I owned, which was Paris Hilton's car when new.

Matt Farah (48:28)

What made it better?

Ed Bolian (48:29)

It had the best brake feel, which is very rare, and the best steering feel, which is also very rare because it's, you know, they feel like you're driving an SL55 with an extension on the steering rack for about four feet because that's exactly what it is.

Matt Farah (48:41)

Yeah.

Ed Bolian (48:42)

And I love that car. So you're probably 600 grand in there. And then I would, I love a Spiker. So I'd probably try to buy an early Spiker Spider and then whatever's left over. Oh, absolutely, yeah. Propeller steering wheel, which might be a retrofit for a u. S. Vin car, but that would put me about 900. And that would leave me enough for either a 430 if I don't have to have something to drive, or an S class if I need to actually take my children somewhere, which I think they'd appreciate someday.

Zach Klapman (49:10)

Good list.

Matt Farah (49:11)

Good list. I would say predictable. Predictable for you. I mean, that's.

Ed Bolian (49:15)

That I'm a creature of having.

Matt Farah (49:16)

You would buy the stuff that you buy.

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And the fact that you're in Charlotte

Matt Farah (49:19)

doesn't really change that.

Ed Bolian (49:20)

It's similar enough to Atlanta. What is. What is your.

Matt Farah (49:23)

You know our friend Bozie Taterovich? I texted him and I said, hey, I'm coming to Charlotte. He lives here. He works. He works on a race team. He works. What's the. Oh, boy. They Lexus rcf Sin imsa. He's on that team. And I said, what, What. What are people driving in Charlotte? And he made a list of cars that are exactly what people drive in la. And I'm like, well, but. And he's like, we all have the same Internet dude. We all want the same stuff.

Ed Bolian (49:49)

But tactical fleet is everywhere.

Matt Farah (49:51)

But I think I can do this better than he could. So my five car Charlotte fleet, million bucks. Number one, a truck with a Carolina squat. They made this illegal and I disagree with that ruling. I think you should be able to drive this legally.

Ed Bolian (50:09)

Let them.

Matt Farah (50:09)

I don't think seeing is that important. I mean, look, did you guys see the in car on the IROC race? You don't need to see the.

Zach Klapman (50:17)

You know, I'm saying, look, Reach for the stars.

Matt Farah (50:19)

Look at the stars.

Zach Klapman (50:20)

Yeah, I mean this. The fact that this is a trend is wild.

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Matt Farah (50:24)

It's like a SEMA truck. But they only did the front half.

Ed Bolian (50:28)

They're saving up.

Matt Farah (50:29)

Yeah, it's on layaway.

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The bad.

Matt Farah (50:31)

The rear shocks, I get them next week. If I make all the payments. I obviously it's. I don't want to like crap on someone's automotive expression. You know what I mean? Like there's. There's a. There are automotive subcultures where it's unseen, you know, people that don't feel visible in society making themselves.

Zach Klapman (50:52)

That's because drivers of these trucks can't see those people. People.

Matt Farah (50:55)

Well, this is what them guys, the guys in Houston that have the crazy wheels that, that with the. With the blades that like stick out. That's all about. I'm making you see me. Like, that's what that is about. So this. I kind of get it. But Also, I was joking. You do need to see.

Ed Bolian (51:10)

But.

Matt Farah (51:10)

But for 25 grand and it's illegal. That's great.

Zach Klapman (51:13)

I think the, this trend started Tesla's headlight aiming, whatever it is, program like they're basically looking at the same thing.

Matt Farah (51:20)

Yeah. So that's. We'll call that 25 GS from a police auction.

Ed Bolian (51:24)

I didn't realize the tone we were taking with these recommendations.

Matt Farah (51:27)

Sorry I put you on the spot. How about the Mustang gtd? This car, this town does homologation, right? Win on Sunday, sell on Monday. That's, that's a, that's a Charlotte thing. And the gtd. I actually took this picture when I tested the car at Chuck Walla. This is. You drive one of these for 30 seconds and you go. A race team made this. This is, it's. The dashboard looks like a Mustang and the center bit is Mustang. But the way it moves, the way it takes curbs, the way it's. This is a multimatic product. Clearly homologation race car. So I'm that. That's 400 grand. So now we're at four and a quarter. Give me a next one. Zach, how about this? The Superformance G GT40. I think this is a perfect car. Road course, street circuit ovals like Daytona. You've got heritage, you've got all kinds of people that are like legendary that are, that were involved in the original GT40. But. But that would be 10 million bucks. And, and people can actually buy these and drive them. They're about 300. So we're now at seven and a seven and a quarter. How about a cheap beater? NASCAR this, you guys, this is the key to happiness. I just found this car. This is a 6th gen Camaro built by Hendrick X competition car. It has a, it has an engine, a 620something cubic inch engine. It has a gearbox. It is, I mean I don't want to say it's quite turnkey, but it's it, it is a running, driving somewhat ready to race X NASCAR. This is $26,000 on Racing Junk.com right now.

Ed Bolian (53:15)

Oh wow. I was ready for you to say marketplace but I. Racing junk, that's prestigious.

Matt Farah (53:20)

Yeah, racing junk is like marketplace. But you don't have to worry about being murdered when you go pick up the thing. You just have to worry the guy's going to start talking to you about camshafts. Right? You know.

Ed Bolian (53:30)

No. Is this still available? Leading their prompt.

Matt Farah (53:33)

Right. And my last choice is of course a Z06 with a Hendrick license Plate frame on it. Because you must, you absolutely must have the license plate frame in this town. I feel the number just driving back and forth from the hotel. The number of Hendrix Chevrolet license plates

Ed Bolian (53:52)

I have seen is on the squatted trucks.

Matt Farah (53:54)

On the squatted trucks.

Ed Bolian (53:55)

Right.

Matt Farah (53:55)

It is a huge percentage of. Of all vehicles on the road in this town. It's crazy. So that's, that's how I'm blowing a mill on cars in your town. Let's see who did it better. Clapman.

Zach Klapman (54:07)

Let me pull my.

Matt Farah (54:07)

What have you done?

Ed Bolian (54:10)

I like that. There was thought put into this. Yes, there were Several minutes. Several minutes, yeah.

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Several minutes, yeah.

Zach Klapman (54:16)

All right. First one. I'm going off road. I want Ranger Raptor.

Ed Bolian (54:20)

Ranger. Ranger Raptor.

Matt Farah (54:21)

Raptor.

Ed Bolian (54:21)

Little raptor.

Zach Klapman (54:22)

There's some hunting around here. The little raptor in my opinion is the better Raptor. It is lighter. It actually makes great horsepower. You can jump it. I did it. They fit in more parking places, trails, all that stuff.

Matt Farah (54:32)

The power to weight of the Ranger Raptor is the same as the power to weight of the 6 to 6.2 liter first gen Raptor with a short cap.

Zach Klapman (54:41)

And it's the same horsepower as the Bronco Raptor. But this costs 30 grand lessons.

Matt Farah (54:46)

These are very good.

Zach Klapman (54:47)

These are very good.

Matt Farah (54:48)

These are very, very good.

Zach Klapman (54:49)

Yeah, I like.

Matt Farah (54:50)

Okay, so 55 grand for one of them.

Zach Klapman (54:52)

55 grand?

Matt Farah (54:52)

Yeah.

Zach Klapman (54:53)

Oh, if you think I did the math, you are wrong.

Matt Farah (54:58)

That looks safe.

Zach Klapman (54:59)

How do you put a price on joy Rock Bouncer. There's a thing here called the Carolina crawlers. Not a popular YouTube channel. 25 views, two years. These have 1000ish horsepower power, all the travel, four wheel steering, sometimes four wheel drive. And I'm pretty sure they're meant to be rolled over.

Matt Farah (55:17)

Yeah.

Zach Klapman (55:18)

And it's like take rock crawling and then add full throttle drag racing. And that's what you have. Absolute danger. I'm so here.

Matt Farah (55:25)

Best spectator sport on the planet. Yeah.

Ed Bolian (55:27)

Unbelievable. Straight to wind rock.

Zach Klapman (55:28)

You know, probably to make, to get to build this. I bet it's 200 to buy it when this person's house is being repoed. 44 GT, let's call it, I don't know, 200 Ford GT. Saw one of these today. Same spec. I love the blue. I love this. I'll take the stripes. Looks great. Outside, inside timeless. Almost like a concept car. Fantastic.

Matt Farah (55:49)

Do you see? Do you see? 04.06 Ford GT's going to the moon.

Ed Bolian (55:54)

When you talk about having to move 4000 cars in value for the same reason that R8s don't move that much. You turn owners into sellers at every step of the way. That's why they set it 200 for forever and then 400 for forever. And now that they're tickling 600, there's. I mean, obviously there's one on bring a trailer every week. But, you know, it's a different type of attitude with it. Wonderful cars and one of the best long term owned forever. Never gonna cut your knees off from a maintenance perspective. So a lot to be said.

Zach Klapman (56:23)

It's like a dangerous index fund because there's no traction control. It's super analog, but it just kind of creeps up a little bit.

Matt Farah (56:29)

I love, love how these cars drive. I think this, I think these are the best driving cars of that entire era. We had them at the rental company. We drove them all back to back. These were the best. Nobody wanted to rent them. No one wanted to spend 2500 a day on a Ford. They were all idiots. Every one of those people. They would happily spend 2500 a day on a O2 Mercy with an E gear Ferrari California. Yeah, right.

Ed Bolian (56:52)

That's it.

Matt Farah (56:52)

Don't buy one of them.

Zach Klapman (56:53)

Right.

Matt Farah (56:54)

Oh, boy.

Zach Klapman (56:55)

Now.

Matt Farah (56:55)

Well, this. But this blows the budget right out of the water a little bit. Okay, but I didn't.

Zach Klapman (57:01)

Like I said, you know, I got a little generous. I'm thinking a lot of civilian by itself, a lot of salvage.

Ed Bolian (57:05)

I thought the down payment, I. I would have gone down that road if I felt like it was allowed with my exact corrupt.

Zach Klapman (57:11)

I figured my payments per year. Yeah. Roof rodeo. I want to be able to chase you guys around the track here a little bit in your race cars, but I'm not gonna be as fast as you. So I gotta cut corners.

Matt Farah (57:20)

Corners.

Zach Klapman (57:21)

I got to do the, the TK line, as some might say, and you know, mow some grass. So I'm going roof rodeo. A little expensive.

Matt Farah (57:29)

These are. I mean, it's to call 800 grand. They're like a million. Okay.

Zach Klapman (57:34)

But I know the owner.

Matt Farah (57:35)

To call this car underrated is like. It's like it's a million dollar roof. So it's not. To say it's underrated is like silly. But nobody in the context of roofs, nobody cares about this. And they should because it's rowdy. It's. It's the one of the most fun cars I've ever driven. It's so.

Ed Bolian (57:53)

Okay. All right.

Matt Farah (57:54)

It's a winner.

Zach Klapman (57:55)

All right. And last one.

Ed Bolian (57:56)

And there's more.

Zach Klapman (57:57)

Last one's fifth one. I wanted something that really connected to North Carolina. I was a fan of the Tar Heels long ago, thanks to Michael Jordan. So something for the city, something for me.

Ed Bolian (58:07)

Is it a lawnmower?

Zach Klapman (58:08)

This is a 2019 Leeboy Track asphalt paver.

Matt Farah (58:12)

Oh, boy.

Zach Klapman (58:12)

$79,000 new super analog. No buttons or. Sorry. All buttons. No haptic buttons.

Matt Farah (58:18)

This roads. What do I do with this?

Zach Klapman (58:21)

You enjoy. Look, it's got an exhaust like a. Like a zinger.

Matt Farah (58:24)

What?

Zach Klapman (58:25)

And.

Matt Farah (58:26)

Oh, look at that.

Zach Klapman (58:27)

It lays down tar.

Matt Farah (58:28)

That makes.

Zach Klapman (58:29)

We're in Tar Heel country.

Ed Bolian (58:31)

So. And when. Okay, well, that's clever. But also when AI takes our video jobs. You got the ball back.

Matt Farah (58:37)

We will have stuff, too.

Zach Klapman (58:38)

Look, the robots can't operate the. I mean, I can't either. Look, toggle switches. Matt, you love these.

Matt Farah (58:42)

Oh, I do.

Zach Klapman (58:43)

You love a toggle switch.

Matt Farah (58:44)

Is that SiriusXM radio? I. Have you been AI clone? Have you found fake Ed Bullion videos yet?

Ed Bolian (58:52)

Yes. People. People use my voice for things.

Matt Farah (58:54)

I have found fake me in a few places.

Ed Bolian (58:56)

Or did you just not realize you said those things valid?

Matt Farah (59:00)

No, that's fair. No, I found fake me, and I don't. I don't really care, as long as they don't make me look too fat. That seems to be the only thing I care about, is I'm vain and shallow. But what are you? Your judge tomorrow on the concourse. Right.

Ed Bolian (59:19)

Radwood supercars.

Matt Farah (59:20)

Radwood supercars. What are you most looking forward to seeing? Anything that surprises you.

Ed Bolian (59:25)

I mean, that's the thing about here. Every. All the four years that I've been here to Heritage. There's always something crazy that pops up that it wouldn't make it out to a normal show because there are so many cars tucked away in this part of the country that just are special to the owner, and then they don't realize how special they'll be to us. So it's hard to anticipate, but There is a McLaren F1 in my.

Matt Farah (59:45)

There is a McLaren.

Ed Bolian (59:46)

Excited about that? Yes.

Matt Farah (59:47)

Yeah. XP. It's a. It's a prototype, too. It's XP4.

Ed Bolian (59:51)

Always fun to see where they move things around in the development process. So.

Matt Farah (59:55)

Up.

Ed Bolian (59:56)

That's right. Excellent.

Matt Farah (59:57)

Well, I'm going to let you go get some beverages at Bulan, ladies and gentlemen.

Ed Bolian (60:01)

Thank you all so much.

Matt Farah (60:02)

Should we get. Guys, want to come join us? We get. Should we get Will and Jackson from Captain Crankshaft up here to do our. Do we have. Do we have cars? We got cars to roast. Oh, boy. Will and Jackson from the Captain Crankshaft YouTube channel. Joining us on the stage to make fun of this is Jackson. This as well.

Zach Klapman (60:21)

Go on that side.

Matt Farah (60:23)

See a little better so you can see the screen. We are going to. Oh, sorry. Let's see what the inbox hath wrought. What are you guys driving and sharing with Zach? Oh, boy. Wow.

Ed Bolian (60:39)

Good start.

Matt Farah (60:39)

Is this. Is this photo for insurance? What's. This is a. This is a Honda CRV that has crashed into. Into something very hard. Anyone who sent us this, as Kurt

Zach Klapman (60:51)

Bush said yesterday, he just moved somebody. Not contact. Just moved him a little bit. Yeah. Yeah.

Matt Farah (60:55)

This is Kurt Bush's daily.

Ed Bolian (60:59)

Dude.

Matt Farah (61:00)

Do we not have a story behind this?

Sponsor/Ad Voice or Producer (61:02)

We're just.

Matt Farah (61:02)

Someone just sent us a picture of

Ed Bolian (61:03)

their hugely crashed crv wondering if it's

Matt Farah (61:06)

totaled or not, right? Oh, okay. Yeah. What do we think? No airbag deployment. So that's good there. I mean.

Ed Bolian (61:12)

I mean, this frame is bent.

Matt Farah (61:14)

There's an animal in there, I think. And I don't. I don't like the implication. We'll move on. Moving on. Oh, buddy. I like the hard spot.

Ed Bolian (61:23)

That's solid sick.

Zach Klapman (61:24)

50, 50 grinding.

Sponsor/Ad Voice or Producer (61:25)

Is it Monte Carlo?

Matt Farah (61:27)

It is, right? Is it Monte Carlo? This thing? Yeah. Is it doing a 50? 50 grind is high centered. It's. It's been there for a second, I think get points for being stuck. Yeah.

Ed Bolian (61:38)

Well, you stop thieves from taking your

Matt Farah (61:39)

car when you park.

Ed Bolian (61:40)

Oh, it's like a genius. Yeah.

Matt Farah (61:41)

What? All right, here's a question. What direction do you think it came from to get on that curb? Did it back on? I think. I think he put it in reverse instead of drive and right.

Zach Klapman (61:52)

Is the drive shaft touching the curb. We think. Or not?

Matt Farah (61:56)

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Looks like it is for sure.

Zach Klapman (61:58)

So someone right here. Someone might have whiskey throttled literally when backing up.

Matt Farah (62:02)

Has anyone ever high centered car. Raise your hand if you've hive centered a car. Has anyone ever high centered a car? Not while off roading. Hair's still up.

Zach Klapman (62:11)

Yeah.

Matt Farah (62:12)

Is this your car? Yeah, buddy. Is this you?

Zach Klapman (62:14)

All right.

Matt Farah (62:16)

High centering a car is bad. Like, that's the. But when you see somebody else do it, man. Nothing's better. You're having a bad day and then you see somebody up and you go, how did you even get up? And they're just spinning in air. And you go, oh, thank God that's not me.

Ed Bolian (62:32)

And just.

Matt Farah (62:32)

And that your day is better.

Zach Klapman (62:33)

It's the smallest amount of planning to not do this.

Matt Farah (62:35)

Dude. This rules. Shout out to the Monte Carlo high centered. Alec Alex Davis. Okay, here we go. Oh, this is a BMW. It looks like. Is that a 3,328i wagon? This. That's naked about this. This is a. This is somebody of taste. Right. My first car and daily driver. This is like the only BMW you can buy where people think you don't automatically drive like a dick bag. Yeah, right. Like, you see someone in a BMW, you're like, I'm gonna stay over here. But you see them in the wagon, and you go. Wagon is class, but also not something to live for.

Zach Klapman (63:14)

But it's so practical, yet it has the maintenance problems of a fun car. So you've kind of got Honda Accord experience, but you're doing it with BMW. Certain service records.

Matt Farah (63:23)

These things are going to be like $22,000 forever. Yeah. They do not depreciate. There will always be someone that has to have this specific car. With a manual. With a manual. With a manual, for sure. Great. They will never depreciate. Can't even roast that. It's a great car.

Zach Klapman (63:39)

You bought it in Oregon. You drove across the country.

Matt Farah (63:41)

Yeah, I'm with that. I'm with that. Okay. What else we got? Good taste. Oh, we got a bunch. Oh, baby. We got the blue M340. Wow. They did a 50th anniversary of that car. Has a lot of badges. There's a lot of badges. That's my first thought is what's happening?

Zach Klapman (64:00)

I don't know. So they did a Yara edition of the 340 because we drove the M3. Yara Edition.

Matt Farah (64:06)

Yeah.

Zach Klapman (64:07)

And that barely made sense as a special edition.

Matt Farah (64:10)

So I can. This. This picture was definitely taken the day they bought the car. And that looks like a South Florida buy here, pay here lot. I have to say, it looks like dealership photos. Yeah. And that's a fake 50th anniversary badge. I'm convinced of it. They didn't make a 50th anniversary of that, did they? I don't think they did that.

Zach Klapman (64:27)

Imagine how long you'd have to explain to a potential customer what this means. That's a. That's a long speech, but no, no, you don't understand. Come back.

Matt Farah (64:36)

I like the color combo. That's true. And also, I think that has an aftermarket steering steering wheel. Oh, unless. See this? Like the laddering in the steering wheel. That's lightweight. The 50th anniversary is that suit. That's 50th anniversary. He's making that up. We've saved 8 grams. It costs $25,000 more than the other one. Okay. Oh, here we Go. Oh, baby. Okay, talk to me. Fox body. Whoa. Okay, we've got a fox body on some like two or three piece wheels. It's an. It's a hatchback. It's the right. Is this the teal? Yeah, it's the correct 90s 90s Ford Teal. It has tinted headlights.

Ed Bolian (65:19)

These are underappreciated, though.

Matt Farah (65:20)

Tinted not by this guy. Tinted headlights appreciated. But I do like the period roof rack and the cooler in the skateboard. That's all right. This.

Zach Klapman (65:32)

This looks.

Matt Farah (65:33)

It's got the basket headrest like a saline has. They've gotten little bits of saline here and there. This is all right. Except it's a four lug wheel. And what that means is that has terrible brakes.

Zach Klapman (65:45)

Yep.

Matt Farah (65:46)

If you want anything above terrible brakes, you got to do 5 lug. Shout out to the fox body driver, though.

Zach Klapman (65:52)

That's really cool.

Matt Farah (65:53)

Yeah. That air freshener is probably needed for the inside of that car. I do like a quality fox body.

Zach Klapman (66:01)

This is from Andy Benton. And they said.

Matt Farah (66:04)

Oh, some more cr.

Zach Klapman (66:05)

This is a gift for my daughter's 16th birthday.

Matt Farah (66:08)

Okay.

Zach Klapman (66:08)

So we're roasting a 16 year old's car. Great. That can't.

Matt Farah (66:11)

Oh, dude, look at this. Okay. Rally wheels and some like. Oh, some falcon wild peaks, which are great tires. Nice gift. Yeah. What. What do you intend for your daughter to do with. With this thing? Anything. That's awesome, dude. Whose daughter? Who bought this car? You did. You bought this car for your daughter. Oh, okay. All right. So you already had it and gave it to her. Okay, cool. What did you do with it with these Sparco rally wheels? Okay. Just did a little more wheeling. All right. Those wheels do look good on the. Yeah, those wheels look good on the crv. I bet you.

Sponsor/Ad Voice or Producer (66:46)

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Matt Farah (66:47)

That's all right.

Zach Klapman (66:48)

The humpback on this thing in this angle. Angle is just this back. It's a D pillar. I guess it is.

Matt Farah (66:54)

Yeah. It does have a bit of a goiter.

Zach Klapman (66:57)

It's got a bit of.

Matt Farah (66:58)

On the back end, doesn't it?

Zach Klapman (66:59)

It's a bell ringer for sure. That's a good one.

Matt Farah (67:01)

That's not its best angle, if I'm honest. Yeah, yeah, it's. Oh, no. Okay, listen, guys, we gotta stop with these hoods. This. The double. The double hump, bro. This. This is like so 97.

Zach Klapman (67:19)

Okay, look, my neighbor's got a car with one hood. I want two hoods. Stack them on top of each other.

Matt Farah (67:24)

And also, like, it's weird to do carbon in a car. That, like, came out before carbon a little bit, you know, Carbon. Yeah, I agree. What wheels do we have on that? Is there a side? Do we have another.

Zach Klapman (67:35)

Another photo?

Ed Bolian (67:35)

Enhance.

Matt Farah (67:36)

Well, look, it's. It's.

Zach Klapman (67:38)

We got a deep dish pizza kind of.

Matt Farah (67:40)

It's a snack. Is the license plate, which I like another in front of it, too. Yeah, yeah. House of two Mustangs. It's a lovely carport, too. And it is. It is a Cobra, and it's got some meaty tires and it's got some kind of very strange exhaust on it. But respect. Right. It's better from this angle because you can't see the hood. Yeah, yeah. Without the hood. Hide that. Hide. Though. If you put the hood with your CRVs. Whoa. Just tumor. The Tumor roadster would. All right. I bet this makes a lot of noise. Not so fast. It's a 90. It's a 96. That was the. That was the valve motor. Oh, hello, buddy. That's. This is good. Hard to fault that. This is a Porsche GT4 RS. Those Vysoc wheels, I think they are in a.

Sponsor/Ad Voice or Producer (68:31)

Like a.

Matt Farah (68:31)

Like a matte blue. Very nice.

Zach Klapman (68:33)

I think that's the center lock wheel. So that means you want to be difficult if you get a flat tire.

Matt Farah (68:38)

This. This car is loud on the outside. It's loud on the inside. He paid for the photo at the tail of the dragon.

Zach Klapman (68:44)

He did.

Matt Farah (68:45)

I don't see a watermark.

Zach Klapman (68:46)

$10. Nice.

Matt Farah (68:47)

Yeah. Is. Whose car is this? Is that a paint to sample or is that a wrap shark? Oh, shark blue with the matte ppf. Okay. I like that. Respect. Yeah. All right. That's cool. That's a lovely car.

Zach Klapman (69:00)

When you buy this, are you sad that you don't have a 911 when you drive this? Are you sad you don't yet have a 911? Is that all right?

Matt Farah (69:10)

He looks like he has a 911. He's one of the allocated. It's okay. It's okay. Very nice car. That's lovely. I bet that's a good time. Oh, baby, roast my boat. Wow. The Mogambo. This is a lovely trawler.

Zach Klapman (69:29)

When the USS Indianapolis sank. This is like.

Matt Farah (69:32)

We had a conversation with this man last night. He lives on this boat. We talked to this. Oh, really? Yeah. This is your house. Oh, man. If this boat's a rocket. Yeah. This is a Grand Banks, I think.

Ed Bolian (69:44)

Who.

Matt Farah (69:45)

Who is the person whose boat this is here? If you live on this boat. He was here. Please come see me later so we can. Because of the implication. I Do love a trawler, especially when it's made into your house. I mean that's just. Just really fabulous. But also like there's like you're making bombs or drugs or something in that

Ed Bolian (70:06)

boat and it's stuck there forever. It's never leaving.

Matt Farah (70:09)

Hasn't run since the late 90s. There's no motor in it. Really. Did you talk to. I like a tow around barge. But dude, respect for this. This is good. Do we have one? One amazing one to end on here. Look at the. Oh yeah. We found the right s 2000. Oh. Oh yeah, bro.

Ed Bolian (70:30)

This.

Matt Farah (70:31)

I look at this photo and I go. Yeah. It's on a salvage title. A hundred percent. 33000 miles and you did those fenders.

Ed Bolian (70:40)

Wow,

Zach Klapman (70:43)

baby. I'm saving up for paint.

Matt Farah (70:44)

I don't. Yeah, the paint's on layaway. I don't believe you. That this car has not been crashed. The only way a car ends up like this is if it met wall. Is it very fast, sir? It catches vets in the corners. Yeah, of course it does. As the vets are breaking. It's got a lot of wheel and a lot of tire on it and. And a lot of down force. And that roof looks expensive. Is that roof expensive? Carbon roofs are expensive. Yeah. It just needs a little more paint.

Zach Klapman (71:15)

This fender looks like he cut the line himself.

Matt Farah (71:17)

That is a hand cut.

Zach Klapman (71:18)

You do that with a sawzall.

Matt Farah (71:19)

If, if, if. If RWB did that, they charge 400 grand for it.

Zach Klapman (71:24)

You're trying to say is your kid's playset missing a slide right now because you made some fenders?

Matt Farah (71:29)

Wow. Okay. Okay. SCCA time trials. What's a run at button willow? Nobody cares. You don't, do you even time attack if you don't run button willow. I don't know.

Zach Klapman (71:40)

Why not from this coast.

Matt Farah (71:41)

I do like this S2000 though. I think I respect. Yeah, it's a good car. Even though we all know it's on a salvage title. Okay. Do we have one more fun one? We should. Should we. Oh, wait. Yeah. That.

Ed Bolian (71:56)

That.

Zach Klapman (71:56)

What?

Matt Farah (71:56)

Because iroc.

Zach Klapman (71:58)

How fitting.

Matt Farah (71:59)

I hope it's the kind.

Ed Bolian (72:01)

Oh,

Matt Farah (72:03)

he got us. He put IRock in the subject line. I was hoping for a Camaro. I mean that's a good car. This is a. This is a GT3RS. I mean, what are these?

Zach Klapman (72:13)

I've never heard.

Matt Farah (72:14)

Never seen one of these before. Huh. I'm sorry, but that car is boring.

Zach Klapman (72:19)

Paint a sample white.

Matt Farah (72:20)

Is it yours one before. Oh, okay. Huh. As yours. It's boring. Boring. I've seen that.

Zach Klapman (72:26)

Yes.

Matt Farah (72:27)

The Honda Cross Tour. Thank you. We can end. You know, it was the first.

Zach Klapman (72:32)

It was the first crossover. Guys, do you know that before the

Matt Farah (72:35)

X6, this thing had to crawl so the Toyota Crown could walk like this. Like, you know how, like, everything is the Aztec now. Like, we made fun of the Aztec, but Now, like, all SUVs have, like, slopey sports car backs now. We made fun of this thing mercilessly. Honda canceled it and now the Toyota Crown is a thing.

Zach Klapman (72:55)

Well, the X6.

Matt Farah (72:56)

Yeah.

Zach Klapman (72:57)

The Cayenne Coupe.

Matt Farah (72:58)

Every car is this.

Zach Klapman (72:59)

Now is this.

Matt Farah (72:59)

The Aztec came with a tent, which is sweet.

Ed Bolian (73:02)

That's cool.

Matt Farah (73:03)

That's the best part about it because

Zach Klapman (73:04)

you get evicted when you buy it and no one wants to live with you. Like, you live in this Elon Musk

Matt Farah (73:09)

for a 10 and come with a 10. He didn't even deliver it. Well.

Zach Klapman (73:12)

That is.

Matt Farah (73:13)

That's a lovely example. That's a beautiful parking job and a beautiful Honda Crosstory. Well, guys, this has been an absolute pleasure sitting here and yucking it up with you. We appreciate you very much. Thank you to Jackson and Will from Captain Crankshaft for joining us. Thank you to Ed Bolian, wherever he's at. Thank you for that very slow clap. That was sad. We're going to be at the bar, so come by and see us and have a beverage with us for the rest this evening and let's watch some racing tonight. Thank you very much, guys.