Zack's Game Show; M5 Touring (Again); Aston Vanquish Review

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Smoking Tire – “Zack’s Game Show; M5 Touring (Again); Aston Vanquish Review”

Release Date: August 21, 2025
Hosts: Matt Farah, Zack Klapman

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Overview

In this lively episode, Matt Farah and Zack Klapman recap a week full of new experiences—from Zack’s debut game show to revisiting the BMW M5 Touring and a deep-dive review of the new Aston Martin Vanquish. Along the way, they tackle behind-the-scenes industry quirks (a cybersecurity mishap), share memorable personal moments, and field listener questions ranging from car advice to cooking tips. The episode is full of banter, insight, and classic Smoking Tire humor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Zack Klapman’s New Game Show: “Driver’s Test”

[04:57–13:49]

• Inspiration & Format:

  • Zack explains the show was inspired by British panel shows where comedians and notable personalities gather for semi-structured banter. He wanted a car-world version of that format: “It’s like a podcast, but with a little bit of an agenda.” (Zack, 06:34)
  • The show features guests with varying degrees of car knowledge, lighthearted competition, and is purposefully low-pressure in terms of scoring.

• Production Stories:

  • The disheveled suit was a deliberate host look, adding to the fun, not-too-serious vibe.
  • The filming location (Marco’s shop) was so well-lit that people thought it was a green screen.
  • Technical challenges included writing 15–16 questions per episode and managing four guests plus crew for each shoot.

• Audience Reception:

  • Strong initial feedback: over 3,000 subscribers and 11,000 views from the first episode.
  • Matt praises Zack for finding the sweet spot: “I was like, am I watching a game show that feels like a podcast or a podcast that feels like a game show?...That’s exactly it.” (Matt, 10:13)

• Challenges:

  • Scheduling guests is tricky; one episode a month is the current plan.
  • Suggestions poured in from viewers, some more realistic than others.

2. Matt’s Cybersecurity Mishap

[14:34–24:28]

• Matt recounts a phishing email incident where he accidentally clicked a legitimate-looking link from his ad agent. Four days later, it sent scam emails to every contact he’d ever emailed.
• The scam mimicked standard ad proposal emails, making it very hard to spot.
• “I got boomered. But the email came from the perfect...person where I would go, ‘okay,’ and open it.” (Matt, 18:08)
• Both hosts commiserate over the hassle of advertiser-required digital portals and propose a “portal fee” for the extra labor.
• Personal anecdotes underscore how easy it is to get caught—even Zack’s mom fell for a basic scam.

3. BMW M5 Touring Review – Take Two

[24:58–31:54]

• First Impressions:

  • The initial M5 Touring they received was “really bad”—with numerous handling problems traced to mechanical faults (bald tires, misaligned rear steer).

• Replacement Car:

  • New blue M5 Touring felt vastly improved—drives and handles as intended.
  • Still, both hosts thought it was stiff, heavy, and not their preference, especially compared to the Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid.
  • “The Panamera Turbo S will handle just as well as this. And it rides like a Phantom.” (Matt, 30:13)

• Interior Critiques:

  • Zack criticizes the design, likening the lighting and panels to a “laser tag arena.”
  • Despite its performance, little about the car “hooked” either host—it’s violently fast but lacks refinement for the price and intended luxury.

4. Aston Martin Vanquish Review – First Drive

[32:05–41:52]

• General Impressions:

  • Matt dubs it “a mighty automobile,” with an 838hp twin-turbo V12 and two-seat layout. Aston Martin’s take on a front-mid-engine GT.
  • Usable day-to-day, albeit on the stiff side with tramlining and aggressive steering.
  • Once above 4,000 rpm: “Holy fucking hell, the earth spins the other way. It goes up the road so goddamn fast...” (Matt, 33:37)
  • Interior quality and leather are excellent, but it’s almost $200k more than a DB12—difference isn’t always perceivable.

• Tech Quirks:

  • Issues with CarPlay Ultra connectivity—sometimes fails after multiple back-to-back connection cycles typical of filming.
  • No nose-lift option, so the front scrapes frequently.

• Comparisons & Context:

  • The car is better suited as a weekend GT than a daily.
  • Matt: “If you’re dailying...Bentley is the answer of all answers.” (40:08)
  • The Vanquish stands out for presence and spectacle but is “stiff and darty” for luxury GT expectations.

• Visuals & Desirability:

  • Both hosts love the styling, especially the rear, which Zack likens to the Ford GT’s best features. Matt emphasizes: “You don’t seem like an asshole when you drive it. You seem like someone who knows some shit.” (41:22)

5. Running Out of Gas: Shared Bentley Adventure

[44:53–52:58]

• Zack details a “range anxiety” incident in the Bentley Bentayga returning from Big Sur—gauge declined faster than expected, causing a nervous moment.

• Matt echoes with an epic tale of towing over the Grapevine in LA-area traffic: trapped in a jam with fuel rapidly dropping from 90 to 40 miles-to-empty.

• Both emphasize the importance of monitoring fuel during California highway travel.

• Classic Matt line:
  “Don’t go up the Grapevine without plenty of fucking juice.” (Matt, 48:57)

• Swap of Bentley comfort features—Zack confused postural adjustment for massage seat, Matt clarifies how to actually enable real massage.

  • “The postural adjustment is just stress relief, not massage.” (Matt, 51:51)

6. Listener Q&A (Samples & Highlights)

[54:00–end]

• Cooking for Beginners:

  • Matt’s advice: Start with well-written YouTube recipes, get quality knives, a good cutting board, and “The Flavor Bible” as a must-have kitchen reference.
  • “The most important book in your kitchen...is called The Flavor Bible. If you don’t have it, you are very much missing out.” (Matt, 58:21)

• Affordable Fun Car for Large Dogs:

  • Mini JCW Countryman, potentially with rear seat delete (if manual trans is a must).
  • Manual, fun crossovers are very rare; suggestions included creative retrofits.

• Lotus Evora vs. 911 for $60k budget:

  • Both love the Evora S for reliability, looks, and Toyota drivetrain; just be careful with bodywork.

• Aston Martin Valhalla “no trunk” concern:

  • Matt: For most buyers, lack of luggage isn’t a dealbreaker—supercars often get shipped or used only on short, spirited drives.

• Pontiac Phoenix, Embarrassing Early Car Mods, and More:

  • The hosts share youthful car mod stories (glow kits, AutoZone parts) and poke fun at malaise-era GM cars.

• Scenic U.S. States to Drive:

  • Best picks: Utah and Colorado stand out for variety and striking beauty. “Utah—tough to beat that.” (Matt, 85:13)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On game show inspiration
  “The BBC is great because they have like five shows that are just excuses for comedians to talk to each other. It’s like a podcast, but with a little bit of an agenda.”
  — Zack Klapman [06:34]

• Matt on the game show’s odd blend:
  “Am I watching a game show that feels like a podcast or a podcast that feels like a game show?...That’s exactly it.”
  — Matt Farah [10:13]

• On the M5 Touring’s flaws:
  “The car moved in an incredibly unnatural way...they sent another one, this blue one. It was much better...Still really stiff and really big and really heavy.”
  — Matt [26:34-27:15]

• On the new Aston Vanquish:
  “Holy fucking hell, the earth spins the other way. I mean, whatever was there is here.”
  — Matt [33:37]

• On owning an analog car:
  “Right now the sort of peak collector cars are still...the end-run stick shift stuff and sort of the early hypercars.”
  — Matt [67:53]

• When discussing the price gap in GT cars:
  “People who buy 812s are not as rich as people who buy brand new Vanquishes. You buy a brand new Vanquish, you know you’re taking a depreciation hit.”
  — Matt [39:44]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |---------|-----------| | Zack’s Game Show Recap | 04:57–13:49 | | Matt’s Phishing/Email Scam | 14:34–24:28 | | BMW M5 Touring Review | 24:58–31:54 | | Aston Martin Vanquish Review | 32:05–41:52 | | Bentley Fuel Range Stories | 44:53–52:58 | | Listener Q&A (Cars, Cooking, Advice) | 54:00–end |

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Conclusion

This episode perfectly highlights the blend of fun, deep analysis, and real-world car enthusiasm that defines The Smoking Tire. It delivers new ventures (Zack’s game show), honest reviews (BMW, Aston, Bentley tales), and lots of practical advice—always wrapped in the hosts’ irreverent, approachable style. Listeners are reminded to check out “Zack Klapman’s Driver’s Test” on YouTube and to keep those questions coming via Patreon.

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For fans:
You’ve got a new car game show to watch, reasons to be skeptical of email links, and a shopping list for your starter kitchen. And next time you brave the Grapevine or consider scraping a $450k Aston, you’ll have Matt and Zack’s voices ringing in your ears.

Transcript

[Matt Farah]

What's up, everybody? Welcome to the Smoking Tire Podcast. Today's episode is brought to you by off the Record. We love off the Record here at the Smoking Tire. And every week, including this one, I get multiple emails from you guys saying that off the Record has helped you get those points and keep those points off of your record. Do a little whoopsie on the highway. You don't just roll over. You don't plead guilty. You call for backup. You go to offtherecord.com they will connect you with a qualified attorney in the jurisdiction where you got that ticket. They will fight that ticket for you, and they will help get those points off your record. Again, offtherecord.com TST will get you 10% off all legal services from off the Record. Don't plead guilty. Get off the record. All right, folks, on this episode of the podcast, Zach has a new game show called Zach Clapman's Driver's Test, and we talk about the inspiration and the execution of that. I do take two on the M5 Touring. The first one was broken, so they sent us another one. And review the new Aston Martin Vanquish. Yowza. Plus, me and Zach almost ran out of gas in the same car. All that and more on the Smoking Tire podcast. Let's go.

[Zach Klapman]

Okay. I can see us.

[Matt Farah]

Can you?

[Zach Klapman]

I can.

[Matt Farah]

Am I clear to you?

[Zach Klapman]

I can, yes. Because I'm clear, and I want to talk to you about that.

[Matt Farah]

Picture me rolling.

[Zach Klapman]

Picture me in Scientology.

[Matt Farah]

Oh, you're that kind of clear? I meant, am I clear to you is from the intro to picture me rolling in a 500 bends. Existing. Yeah, existing.

[Zach Klapman]

We exist. I was waiting for some audience confirmation, but it'll work.

[Matt Farah]

Yep. Hello. Good morning. Good morning.

[Zach Klapman]

I had a cool story in the morning I want to shout out. I was walking to work, and I see a Mystichrome terminator sitting in a light, and I'm about to take my phone out to take a picture, and I see the window go down. And I walk up, and the guy's like, I'm listening to you guys on a podcast right now. Oh, check out Carlos. And it put me in a great mood. And I was like, dude, I was about to take a picture of your.

[Matt Farah]

Carlos and the Mystichrome Cobra.

[Zach Klapman]

Yep.

[Matt Farah]

Send us a photo of the mist. Is it was a first or second gen roundy one or new Edge?

[Zach Klapman]

New Edge.

[Matt Farah]

A new Edge. That's Mystichrome. The 96 one. The SN95 was just mystic.

[Zach Klapman]

Oh, okay.

[Matt Farah]

I casually refer to both as mystichrome. And Mustang Nerd, Mustang Nerd actually is actually just mystic shout out to Carlos. Yeah, I got, actually, I got, actually'd an email the other day. Cause I went on a little rant about Cafe like two weeks ago or whatever it was. Actually, CAFE has nothing to do with emissions. CAFE is just a tax scam to get the manufacturers to pay more to build cars. The emailer referred to a system of penalties for not meeting fuel economy standards as a tax stand scam. That isn't what a tax scam is. A tax scam is when an individual figures out how to not pay taxes on things they should be paying taxes on. That's a fine that you pay the government if you don't do the thing. It's not a tax scam. And if you really have to be explained as to why cars that have better fuel efficiency produce fewer emissions, I don't know how to help you. I'm sorry. It's not a. It's not a direct one to one. Yeah, it's not a direct one to one. You could find a car that goes, well, this gets 35 miles per gallon, but puts out more, well, diesels, or in this one. But in general, industry wide, if the cars are more fuel efficient, they are burning fewer things, Right?

[Zach Klapman]

True. Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

And also the CAFE element is one aspect of it. I just watched this week's episode of Some more News, which you should watch. Dude, the fucking creep running the EPA now is fucking like a oil. He talks like an oil industry lobbyist on all these. Like, there's just video after video after video of him going on these podcasts and talking about how the EPA will no longer get in the way of industry. Like, he literally sounds like a lobbyist. He's like, well, we like the environment, but we can't, we can't get in the way of industry. It's crazy. So anyway, it's all happening. It's good. It's going good, it's going good. Like if we don't, you know, you know, we might, we might, we might burn. I don't know. We'll see. We'll see what happens. It'll be fun. On a better note, Zach has a game show.

[Zach Klapman]

Oh, I know.

[Matt Farah]

Zach made a game show. And I was a bad delinquent friend and didn't watch it for six days after it came up.

[Zach Klapman]

It was car week.

[Matt Farah]

It was car week. I didn't do. You saw me not being able to do any real work. You were there.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

So Hannah and I sat down and watched it last night. And it was cool.

[Zach Klapman]

Thank you.

[Matt Farah]

Zach Cladman's driver's test. Driver's test is a good name.

[Zach Klapman]

Cause everyone who's on it drives a car.

[Matt Farah]

Well, it's like in. Everyone who has a license has taken their driver's test. It's a double entendre thing. It's. And Zach has the disheveled suit, as you must. I've had it for like seven years. The standard. The standard Internet game show host disheveled suit.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah. The tie was left open by accident because it was so hot in there. But I really.

[Matt Farah]

No, it completed the look. I think if you had that suit with a well fitting tie, I think it would have looked silly.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah, it needs to look silly, but not too silly.

[Matt Farah]

Well, have you. I mean, not to shout him out one too many times the show, but Cody from some more news has been wearing the same suit without like washing it for like five years.

[Zach Klapman]

Really?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. And it's gotten like progressively more disintegrated without washing it. I mean, I can't. I think it's without washing it, but like. Or it's like strategically washing it so it falls apart. But like it's, it's just, it's self deconstructing.

[Zach Klapman]

If I didn't wash a suit for that long, the armpits would have holes in them just from.

[Matt Farah]

Well, he's the only person on camera. So. Yeah, you've got to have people surrounding you in this one.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

So why did you decide to make a game show?

[Zach Klapman]

I was watching a lot of these British panel shows. The BBC is great because they have like five shows that are just excuses for comedians to talk to each other. It's like a podcast, but with a little bit of an agenda. So they've got, you know, there's a trivia like Jimmy Carr has a trivia show like every year and you know, people have to answer the questions and stuff. But most of it, like, like 90% of that show is banter and stuff.

[Matt Farah]

Oh, okay.

[Zach Klapman]

But they have a bunch of them and it's just, it's like we need a vehicle for these people, funny people to talk and do something. And I was just sitting there watching these and thinking, like, there's no car version of that right now. And it's. Yeah. Basically that like we have all these people that are in the car world and, you know, very entertaining folks, very knowledgeable folks and how can we get them together in a way that's fun and.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

You know, and I don't want to like make a new podcast Because I'm not going to do that. And it would just be.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Not doing another podcast is very important.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah. Not really. Like, I'm not going to reinvent that wheel.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

But I just thought, like, what's. What do we like to do? I like to hang out with all of our different people. People discuss a bunch of things, and how do we add a little mission and a little bit of competition that makes them kind of, you know, try a little hard, pay a little attention. But the show's not too serious because a third of the questions.

[Matt Farah]

No. Two thirds of the way through, I looked at Hannah and I was like, is there a score? Like, I actually, like, was there a score?

[Zach Klapman]

If that there was, but episode two will have a score.

[Matt Farah]

Maybe a lower third. Yeah. But, like, I did actually. I assumed there was a score at some point, but I, like. The conversation turned to something else, and I, like. I was like, is there. At some point, you go, I'll award you two points. I was like, there's points. It was fun.

[Zach Klapman]

There's points with every. I did intentionally not call out the score with each question because I thought, you know, TV production move. If one of the questions is a fucking dud.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, you can cut it. Yeah, yeah. You gotta cut it, you know, for the audience.

[Zach Klapman]

Like, we'll only cut it in a way that keeps it fair. I'm not gonna change who wins. I'm not gonna be a kingmaker over there. But that was Trump's caddy. Yeah. But we'll do it in the lower third. That was. The most requested thing, was a scoreboard. And then people's suggestions, like, from friends, family, and commenters online, were so funny. And all over the. My friend text me yesterday, and he goes. He's like, here's the idea for how to improve your show. Three teams of three. And I was like, that is twice as hard to schedule, bro. And he was like, one team knows nothing about cars. One team is just friends, and one team are.

[Matt Farah]

Well, that was basically brutal. Jay knows everything about cars that have the four cars that appeared in movies from 1986 to 1991, and nothing about any cars out there outside of that at all.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah. So that's why I intentionally paired him with Derek, because Derek was a journalist, works for car. Worked for Car and Driver.

[Matt Farah]

And then Jay has detailed files.

[Zach Klapman]

What?

[Matt Farah]

Derek has detailed files? Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

Just shy of a spreadsheet.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, no, it's a fun thing. I am going to give you absolutely no suggestions at all. Everyone else is giving you suggestions. I'm in a 100% support business. You can listen to suggestions from other people and if you want them, you can ask. But I bet you have enough. Either way, it's a fun idea. I didn't know. I don't watch British chat shows. So when I was watching it last night, I was like, okay, am I watching a game show that feels like a podcast or a podcast that feels like a game show? And now that you've described to me what the sort of inspiration and intent was a little better. Because you didn't intend. I think you intentionally didn't talk to me about this at all before you made it.

[Zach Klapman]

To be fair, I only told five people and they were all there that day. Sure.

[Matt Farah]

Which is like, fine. And I knew you were doing something, and I figured if you wanted to tell me, you would have. And if you didn't want to, there was a reason and whatever. And I didn't want to say anything really about it at all until I actually watched it. And I figured if you wanted editorial, you'd ask. But I enjoyed it. And now that I know the backstory of it, that's what you did. It's like halfway between a game show and a podcast. So, like, well done. Yeah, that's exactly. If that was what you set out to do. There it is. That's the fucking thing. And the guests are all people I know and like, and I hope you make more of them. And you got. With one video, you got 3,000 subscribers and 11,000 views. So, I mean, that's pretty encouraging. That's pretty good, right?

[Zach Klapman]

I was pretty shocked and, like, stoked on everybody who subscribed because, you know, it went from zero because it was a brand new channel.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

To 3,000 subscribers. And then, you know, views are fine. And I. Launching a new thing. I went, this might have 100 views. I have no idea what it's going to do. But the response has been good. The support has been amazing. And I am planning to make more of them. Gonna make another one in September. You know the pace. I think I could do one a month. Because you have to get. I mean, you know how it is. We used to schedule one guest.

[Matt Farah]

No, no, no.

[Zach Klapman]

That's.

[Matt Farah]

That's a pain in the dick. Yeah, yeah. That's not. That's no fun.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

You gotta do. If you're producing that, it's four guests and the crew. And you're, you know, you're also kind of the director.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah. And I have to write all the questions.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

And like 15, 16 of them. And your guy. What?

[Matt Farah]

Your guy. That's Guy Fieri. Guy Fieri is the. Is the ep, the showrunner, the director, and the host and friends with all the chefs. Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

Of Triple G. He directs it while he's hosting it.

[Matt Farah]

I don't think he's literally the on set director. There is, like, a person who tells cameras what to point at, but he is the showrunner and ep and in charge of the entire set while hosting the show.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

And he's like, all right, guys, let's go on to the next shot. Like he. I was there. He decided when a scene was done, not. Not like some other person. Wow. Yeah. Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

That's very impressive.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. No, he's a fucking maniac, guy. He's. He's crazy. You can't. You know, one's like that. But. But like, I've. Having seen him do it, I was like, that looks hard. I was there one day, I go, that's why I could never be Guy Fieri. Because of that.

[Zach Klapman]

Well, he built that muscle over any brain, probably.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. And he also has 25 restaurants, and he's doing that on five television shows. It's insanity. Yeah. I don't know how you don't fucking explode.

[Zach Klapman]

An aneurysm.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. He seems pretty mellow, considering. But it looked good. The lighting actually was very nice.

[Zach Klapman]

Just how it looked. We didn't light anything.

[Matt Farah]

You didn't use lights?

[Zach Klapman]

Nope.

[Matt Farah]

Really?

[Zach Klapman]

Swear to God. Swear to God.

[Matt Farah]

It was. That's. Marco's shop is very well lit. It looks like. It almost looks like a prepped TV studio lighting.

[Zach Klapman]

It does. And we had the door open, which was a bummer because it was hot out. But they don't have AC in there anyway, so it would have been hot anyway. But, yeah, we just, like, opened the door, and then when I saw it through the cameras we rented, I went.

[Matt Farah]

Whoa, that looked really well lit.

[Zach Klapman]

I had multiple people ask me if we shot it in front of a green screen because it looked too good.

[Matt Farah]

It was wild.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Very, very cool. Anyway, go. Go watch it. It's just Google or YouTube. Search Zach Clapman's driver's test.

[Zach Klapman]

It pops up now, you know, the first couple hours of a new channel, when you type in the exact name of it, it gives me. It gives you a bunch of other shit.

[Matt Farah]

Well, if someone. Hannah. You know, Hannah. Accidentally got it backwards and searched Zach Klavan's test drive and got 500 smoking tire videos, which is like, you know, accidental SEO. Death. You know, like my. Like, I always talk about My, One of my favorite racing movies, motorsport movies, is the documentary called one, Just the number one, which is an unbelievable movie. And people are like, I can't find it. Cause it's called one. It's like you just can't search for the number one. It just, it fucks up everything.

[Zach Klapman]

Yes, it was hard. I watched that with Sarah recently. It was very hard to find.

[Matt Farah]

It's really hard to find. It's so, so bad. Yeah, it's a great movie, but that's awesome. Good for you. I'm 100% down. I wanted to. I never talked about it, but it happened like three weeks ago. My email got. Folks gotta take one quick break from the action for Dylan Optics Sunglasses, our longest running sponsor going all the way back to 2010. And when I was just at car Week, everybody was asking me about my new Dylan Optics sunglasses. And what's great about these things. They immediately look different from the outside, but from your eyes on the inside, it is like HD life. The double polarized NIR lens technology is exactly the right thing for bright sunny days behind the wheel of a car driving across the desert. If you're at the beach, if you're at a concourse, wherever you's at, you need this eye protection. And if you go to thesmokingtire.com and click on that partners tab, we will send you a free Smoking tire T shirt with every purchase purchase of any set of Dylan Optics sunglasses. They come in all different color frames and lenses you can mix and match. So your pair will be totally unique. Again, go to thesmokingtire.com and click on that partners tab. The Dillon link will get you a free T shirt for every pair of Dylan Optics sunglasses you purchase from our longest running sponsor. And now back to the show. So here's what happened, right? And I got a few people who are like, I can help you with your, you know, your cybersecurity, like clearly like your password's not good enough. Blah, bullshit. I got, I got Boomered. But there's the fucking excuse. I clicked a link, but there's a, there is a story. Okay? I did get Boomered and that email that sent out to every single person I've ever emailed, not everyone in my contacts, everyone I've ever emailed from. Matt smokingtire.com oh my God. I heard from a whole lot of people I wish didn't know I still existed. And you know, I just, I clicked a link, it opened a website that looked immediately suspicious and I did nothing else. And then four days later, it emailed everyone I've ever emailed. Okay? So it was an email. And if you go scroll down my Instagram, I show I have a screenshot of what it was. Keep going, keep going, keep going. It's the one that looks like a fucking scam email. Keep going, keep going. That View Dashboard. So it sends you that. Okay. That's what it sent to other people. Okay. It looks like a docusign is coming. All right? So it came to me the same way. It came to me the same way. I will give it to you. And normally if you get an email like this, you wouldn't. If my dad sent me a fucking email like this, I'd be like, dad, what's going. You know, anybody? You send me an email like this, I go, what the fuck is this? What if Zach Clapman, I sent you.

[Zach Klapman]

An email just like this.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

And it would have. You would have known about the show.

[Matt Farah]

You wanted me to be on it the whole time. I didn't have a new.

[Zach Klapman]

Keep going.

[Matt Farah]

You know who I got the email from? I do, but it's our, our fucking ad sales agent. The one person where I would go, I would go, okay, and open an.

[Zach Klapman]

Email like this looks like a proposal.

[Matt Farah]

It looks, it looks like what these look like.

[Zach Klapman]

Yep, yep.

[Matt Farah]

Now it doesn't. Like, and, and, and you know, I, within one click I was like, ah, that this ain't right. And I, and it was gone. And I hoped my Macintosh would save me, but it didn't. Yeah, no, I got boomered. But the email came from the fucking maybe two people in the world that I would actually open an email from that looks like this.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Because people who sell. When you're in the content creator business, you have different people that help sell you ads. Sell, sell ads for you. Right? We have a team that sells ads on the podcast and we have a different team that sells ads on the YouTube channel. Okay. And every once in a while, we'll be independently approached by standalone agencies who also want to sell ad. And I'll sell an ad to them directly. Okay. It's an okay system, but like all the time emails come in like this from random ass agencies. But it's usually like, you know, fucking, I don't want to say some crazy racist thing, but like some unpronounceable Chinese name, blah, blah, blah, that's trying to sell some Amazon garbage, right? And you just don't bother. But when it comes from the person who is the ad proposer, well, then.

[Zach Klapman]

To add to that, sometimes we'll get ad partnerships. And the advertiser requires us to join a sort of portal tracking something or other. Dude, very annoying.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, like, who was the. Who was it? Was it Carlin or somebody always said, like, you know, it's not. I'll do the comedy for free. You're like, you're paying me to go to an airport. I forget who said that. I don't want to. I want to give them credit. But, like, I'll stand on stage and tell jokes for free. It's. You're paying me to. Same thing with cars.

[Zach Klapman]

Sure.

[Matt Farah]

I'll drive the fucking. To go. I'll go drive the Mustang GTD around the track for free. Your pet. You're. I need to not be here, though. That's the thing. Right. But like, go on. Sorry, you put the. The getting paid bit is you signing up for these goddamn portals and it's.

[Zach Klapman]

That's it. It's not. It's not common in. In this game with us, but it happens maybe twice a year. So you see something that's like, view dashboard, you go, oh, it's gonna be one of these things where I gotta login to track the thing instead of doing the way everybody else does it. And so I hate that someone proposes.

[Matt Farah]

A rate and they don't tell you till the end if they knew. If I knew. See, I'm gonna start doing this. I can't believe it's been so long. I'm gonna respond, thank you for your interest. Before I quote a rate for you, will you require me to make a new account for a portal? Yes. No. Because I need to factor. I gotta do a plus 1000 minimum. If you're making me do a fucking portal.

[Zach Klapman]

Cause it literally isn't that easy. I mean, I know people listening going, how hard is it? Like, there are some weird snags you would do. Because some of the analytic trackers are not very well refined because they're brand new.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

But you know, they probably.

[Matt Farah]

And sometimes they want information that you're like, why do you need my bank account balance? Like, what the fuck? Why are you running my credit? You're paying me.

[Zach Klapman]

This was the best trick. Trojan horse. I mean, this was.

[Matt Farah]

It was from the perfect. The perfect foil from the perfect person. I got had.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

And I also learned, you know, because I know exactly when it went out. It went out at like 6:26am, you know, whatever. Right. I learned that people don't check their email for like four or five days sometimes, which is a wild thing to me because I check my email Like, a zillion times a day.

[Zach Klapman]

Oh, so five days later, you're texting.

[Matt Farah]

Five days. It's still coming.

[Zach Klapman]

Oh, my God.

[Matt Farah]

Still coming.

[Zach Klapman]

I texted you early in the morning. I was like, I bet he's heard. But if he hasn't. But maybe. And then you've responded back, it was very clear that I was number 70.

[Matt Farah]

I know. If you're. If that happens to someone who's your friend, even if they. Even if they're the 50th person, if it's your friend, good looking out, you know, I'm overwhelmed, but good looking out. But when it's like, no, because you could also, like, the. Some of the people that we worked with a very long time ago. We're all, hey, great to hear from you. You know, tried to. Would love to work on you. Let's get lunch.

[Zach Klapman]

But, you know, it's funny, if it's someone you don't want to hear from, the odds of them having clicked the dashboard are, like, 100% pretty high. I want to work with Matt.

[Matt Farah]

I want to work with Matt. I'm in. Click. Also the perfect Trojan horse. Eventually, it'll send emails from people that no one wants to hear from.

[Zach Klapman]

That's the. The example of the most imperfect Trojan horse is related to this. I'm sitting with my mom in Santa Cruz a few days ago, and she goes, what is this email? This invoice thing? And I go, oh, shit. And I look. And she had opened an email where the subject title was no subject, and the body of the email said the number one, the number two, and then had a PDF attached. My mom's like, 84, but. And she's like, I opened this. I didn't order this invoice. And I just. I had to explain how spam email works. And I was like, you see how the subject is just 1, 2, dot, dot? And she's like, yeah. I'm like, that's nothing. If it was a better scam, it would say Amazon, blah, blah, blah. And I showed her, like, see these invoices I have? See what they look like? And she's like, oh, okay. Yeah, but you clicked on this. Which I understand. She clicked on that, which I do not. I was very disappointed.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. And by the way, the one that was sent to me didn't say created by Matt Farah. It said created and the name of my agent. I was all my. I actually, I did. I did the. Ugh, I'm going to have to use the fucking portal for this now. That was what I Said. And I was. But like. But I need money. All right, click. You know, not good. Yeah, yeah, that's. We got to. I'm going to start doing extra rates for portals, though. Fuck portal charge. Fuck portal fee.

[Zach Klapman]

Like a tariff.

[Matt Farah]

Put it in the invoice. Portal fee.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah. 200 bucks.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, just abbreviate it. Port fee. They're like, what's this?

[Zach Klapman]

You know, only because like 98% of companies don't need analytics from this portal. Yeah, you do. Are you so special?

[Matt Farah]

Well, these. The company that is using the portal.

[Zach Klapman]

No, they don't.

[Matt Farah]

You know what? I don't care. I don't care. I'm not about that portal life anymore. You're gonna pay for that shit. That's. That's a waste of time. That's not time that I'm spending talking about your product to our audience. Yeah, they're stupid. So do you want to talk about the M5 touring, take two, briefly?

[Zach Klapman]

Yes.

[Matt Farah]

Because if people recall. Oh, I think you have to. You have to go way, way pretty far down. There it is, the blue one. Go up that blue. So if you recall, we had a BMW M5 touring and I very much did not like it.

[Zach Klapman]

That's true.

[Matt Farah]

And it was. It was really bad in a variety of ways. And we didn't even. We actually didn't film it because I was like, yikes. I sent it back and I said, hey, can you guys like look at this? It's. Or actually, no, they said to me, we'd like to look at the car because based on your comments, doesn't sound right. Well, the tires are extremely bald and they were worse on the inside than they were on the outside. Actually, the front left wheel had thrown a weight and the rear steer was out of alignment. So when the rear steer is out of alignment, what you get is bump steer in a straight line. So when it compresses, it does a little side shuffle like a speed skater. And so that's. Remember you saying the movement of the car isn't matching the road. Yeah, that's that.

[Zach Klapman]

So it was doing. What is it like the Honda, the S2000 AP1, when it would compress, would change toe.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. But the install this does it at the back.

[Zach Klapman]

It did at the back. Well, that's where it did it too. But this was doing it on a bump that like the wheel must have moved 2 millimeters. Like the tiniest little shiver. But it would cause the back to then shiver right or left.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

Really strange.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. The car moved in an incredibly unnatural way. So they were like, yeah, our bad. So they sent another one, this blue one. It was much better. Yeah, you drove it too, right?

[Zach Klapman]

It did briefly, but it didn't do that thing.

[Matt Farah]

It didn't do that thing. Which was the majorly problematic thing.

[Zach Klapman]

You described it perfectly for people. You said it felt like ADAS was turned. It felt like the steering lane keep assist was on and it thought you were leaving the lane constantly.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

So just for people's reference.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. And when it was not, it was not on. So it felt like the car was tugging you around all the time, which was like a fucked up thing. So anyway, this one, the blue one, still really stiff.

[Zach Klapman]

Yes.

[Matt Farah]

Still not the car for me. I mean, Hannah and I drove it. We drove it a couple hundred miles. We drove it to wine country and it was comfortable, the seats were comfortable. It actually got shockingly good fuel economy. Got like over 30 miles a gallon going to wine country and back, which was pretty impressive. Starting with a full charge, full 30 mile charge. And it steered properly, it stopped properly and it behaved predictably. So it was just really stiff and really big and really heavy. And it's not really the car for me, but it's not nearly as bad as our initial impression was. And I wonder how long that green car was that fucked up for before they checked it. Like was it the loan before us or did it go to a bunch of people who didn't notice the difference?

[Zach Klapman]

I don't know. I mean the tires, it looked like someone, you know, thrashed it on the track, I think. Didn't we ask Kamisa, is this the car you had at Chuck Wallet?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. He said no.

[Zach Klapman]

It seemed like someone did a track test and then maybe it just went to us afterwards. I don't know.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, but it was. So it wasn't. It wasn't as bad as initially thought.

[Zach Klapman]

For sure it wasn't, but it's still.

[Matt Farah]

Not the car for me.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah, it's just the stiffness of it and the size of it and. Okay, the size is, is whatever. Cars keep getting bigger and bigger. I just think it feels enormous.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah. It has a big interior and you can put a lot of stuff in the back. But it just feels huge to drive and the ride just being stiff. Yes, it's the M5. Yes. It's a sporty one. I just think this is how I would expect like an M5 Comp or M5Cs to ride. And if we're here already, then we. Do we have anywhere to go upwards? Like is it just going to Become even lighter and more abrasive. I don't know. For it being a luxury vehicle.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, it doesn't do the luxury bit that well.

[Zach Klapman]

The thing is though, I keep thinking about if we lived somewhere else that had better roads. Georgia, Germany. Are we complaining about a problem that is really the environment we're in, not the car we're driving?

[Matt Farah]

No, other cars ride fine here.

[Zach Klapman]

So. But I think this thing is cool.

[Matt Farah]

But don't try a Panamera.

[Zach Klapman]

That's true.

[Matt Farah]

If you think you like this and you try a Panamera Turbo with the hydraulic suspension, you're going to be in for a world of surprise.

[Zach Klapman]

That's a good point.

[Matt Farah]

Because that handles just as well as this. Just as well as this. Maybe if you're doing a fucking V box magazine test, there's some incredibly incremental. On the road, there is zero difference. Panamera Turbo S will handle out. Will handle just as well as this. And it rides like a phantom.

[Zach Klapman]

This, this feels more like the Panamera or Taycan GTS.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

Which I guess it should. It is the M5, but it's just really stiff. Maybe just reduce, like make the sidewall bigger or something like that. Let's shrink the wheels a little bit.

[Matt Farah]

We need rams though. I know, but it wasn't broken, so that's good. We found, we, we, we learned something.

[Zach Klapman]

I just, I didn't like the, I don't like the interior design very much. That's an aesthetic, subjective choice. But like the lights you can change and the big rectangular panels. I think it looks like a laser tag arena.

[Matt Farah]

It does.

[Zach Klapman]

Cheap, frankly. But I mean that's like, and that's probably something that's plaguing the entire model line of 5 Series right now. That's just what they're doing. But there's so little about this car that hooked me. Yes, it is incredibly, incredibly fast. Holy fuck.

[Matt Farah]

It is incredibly fast. If you do a full bore launch control through four gears, it is violently fast. But like, but, but like Camisa pointed out in his drag race, it's, it is violently fast in the car, but the, the Panamera Turbo S hybrid beats it in a straight line. And it's not violently fast. It's smooth fast and it goes faster. So like. And it rides better.

[Zach Klapman]

You know, some people like the people that like single clutch transmissions because they kick them. Okay, well then that's the M5.

[Matt Farah]

You know who says they like single clutch transmissions? People selling cars with them.

[Zach Klapman]

People when they drove the lfa, they were like, oh, this is actually kind of cool. And I disagree because it's slow.

[Matt Farah]

I think I would suffer through a single clutch transmission in order to have an lfa.

[Zach Klapman]

I would as well. But if I had someone tell me if I had a magic wand and they would rather keep the single clutch versus switching to a dual clutch, I would not believe that.

[Matt Farah]

I wouldn't believe them either.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah, they'd be.

[Matt Farah]

They'd have a. They'd have a real problem. You'd want to. You'd want to look into other aspects of their life and see where they've gone wrong.

[Zach Klapman]

Why do you need to be hit so hard? Why are you flagellating while driving?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. And then we can. I can flip the switch to the Aston Martin Vanquish, which I had for a week. Oh, boy. I'm sorry that you were camping and missed this one because this is a mighty automobile clapman.

[Zach Klapman]

Damn it. This is a.

[Matt Farah]

This is really. Well, don't worry because next month we will have the convertible. So it won't be exactly the same, but you will have the vibe. 838 horsepower, twin turbo V12. It's as long as my Taycan and only seats two. And so it is proportioned in a way that many cars are not proportioned. Usually if you have a car this long that seats two, you're sitting at the front of it. You know, it's a mid engine car with a V12 or something behind you. This is a sort of. It's not front mid because some of the engine is over. It's not fully behind the front axle, but it's close. It is a nasty thing. It's totally usable every day, putter around, blah, blah, blah. And when you're doing that, you sort of realize it's pretty stiff and it tram lines quite a bit. The front end gets. And the front wheels are far away, but it has this very sharp steering, no rear steer. So it's not like the 812. 812. Also the front wheels are very sharp but very far away.

[Zach Klapman]

It's like that, I think also made almost as much power as this. And there were no turbos. That's insane.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, I know. Yeah. This doesn't have the same vibe as the 812. This is a little more of mellow vibe. The 812 was a little crazier. Yes, it was high strung and crazy. But this thing, when you get the engine above 4,000 rpm, holy fucking hell, the earth spins the other way. I mean, whatever was there is here. You're here, you're there, you're here, you're there. You just. The end of the. As far as you can see, it's here now. It's just. It goes up the road so goddamn fast and has enough brakes, which is great. Although they got real squeaky when I got really hot. They started to get really squeaky. But the UI was pretty good. Except CarPlay Ultra kept fucking up. I had a real tough time now, I think possible journalist problem, but it might reveal a bigger problem. CarPlay Ultra. I think because of the amount of data in, it takes longer to connect than regular carplay in my experience, which so far is limited to Aston Martins. Okay. And the first time you set it up, it takes like three minutes to set up. The first time after that, you get in the car. If it's working properly, you get in the car, it's like 30 to 45 seconds to be carplay. When you're filming, as you well know, you're in and out and in and out. And the car stopped and the car started and you're walking away from it, you're walking back. I confused the hell out of the car. Connecting, disconnecting. Out of range, in range, whatever. I'm sure most people aren't doing that. But after that, it never connected. Right. The same again. Oh, yeah, it kept doing. Do this searching for phones thing, which we have on the screen, and I'd click back to use the Aston Martin infotainment and my Bluetooth would work, but not CarPlay Ultra. Three days later, I deleted my phone from the car. Deleted the car from my phone, started over and it worked again. But it did take a long time to reconnect. Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

Okay.

[Matt Farah]

Now starting Thursday, I have a Vantage Roadster, which obviously you can have for a couple days as well, that has CarPlay Ultra also. So we're trying again. I have a new phone. I have an iPhone 16 Pro, so I have the latest of everything. It's not my old. We can't blame the old crappy 5 year old phone anymore. Brand new phone, so not the end of the world. And in some ways only partially Aston Martin's fault. Overwhelmingly, the car was excellent. The leather and the. It was crazy expensive. It's crazy expensive. And honestly, you can't feel that. It's like almost $200,000 more than a DB12.

[Zach Klapman]

Whoa.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. DB12 is like 250 to 300. This is like 450 to 500. It's a huge difference in price. And there are a lot of ways I would prefer a DB12 like this thing is pretty, like you could daily it if you wanted to, but the DB12 would literally be better at it. Softer ride, no tram lining, bigger trunk, just still very fast. Still sounds good, but a little easier to live with a little better visibility. More of a gt. This is a more focused car. This would be better on a weekend. You could certainly road trip it and you could certainly daily it if you wanted to. But it was stiff and it's stiff and darty.

[Zach Klapman]

Right.

[Matt Farah]

You have to deactivate adas every single time you start the car, which sucks. And I would always forget about it until it showed up at a fucking very annoying time.

[Zach Klapman]

And I'd scream at it, but man, it's stunning. The back reminds me of Ford GT a little bit. The newest Ford gt. Yeah, I mean, that's not a bad thing. And the tail on this is so good looking.

[Matt Farah]

It is so pretty.

[Zach Klapman]

That. What's the black Aston that was, that.

[Matt Farah]

We saw, the Valiant, that was trash.

[Zach Klapman]

This is a great looking rear end. And if you want to know how good it is, you see that special edition one, you go, oh, they broke it. Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, that one wasn't great. This thing is so pretty, you know, and it obviously it sounds great. You really. It sounds different on the inside than the outside. It sounds snarlier on the outside and more soprano on the inside. More like a horn, like I think like a, like a woodwind instrument on the inside.

[Zach Klapman]

Okay.

[Matt Farah]

And like a snarly grr on the outside.

[Zach Klapman]

Interesting.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

Is there an enhanced sound inside?

[Matt Farah]

I don't know. I think it's just very well insulated and so you're just hearing different things. I don't think there's exhaust, there's. There's speaker sound. Really, really, really nice. I can't wait for the convertible. I bet it's gonna be sick. But I hope they make the convertible a little softer because if it's good, if it's that stiff, it's gonna be. And we don't, we don't want it to be flimsy. Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

How much is this MSRP?

[Matt Farah]

This one was like 460.

[Zach Klapman]

So an 812, I mean, these are definitely competitors. So the 812 MSRP is 433.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

So that makes sense.

[Matt Farah]

But 812s go out the door for six, seven.

[Zach Klapman]

Of course.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

The options are crazy.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. These I'm sure, you know, they're obviously insanely expensive, but I don't think there's much of a flip market on them. I think you, if you can Afford one, you buy it. Like, dude, people, people who buy 812s are not as rich as people who buy brand new vanquishes. You buy a brand new vanquish, you know you're taking a depreciation hit. People who buy 812s are so nervous about losing a fucking dime on them, they need to get that money back.

[Zach Klapman]

That is a great ad. Like, that should be the billboard for that. It really should.

[Matt Farah]

The really rich people buy Aston.

[Zach Klapman]

Yes.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, absolutely put that. You ain't rich unless you can take a 200k depreciation the first 18 months.

[Zach Klapman]

And you know it happening.

[Matt Farah]

But I would, I'd probably like, I think my choice, like, you know, Bentley GT speed, same kind of price force, big money, softer ride.

[Zach Klapman]

Or no, I didn't drive a car.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, Bentley. If you're, if you're dailying, especially if you're dailying in a place with four seasons, Bentley's the Bentley is the fucking answer of all answers. It's the, there's, there's, if you have enough money, the answer to almost any car question becomes Bentley. Like there's a, there is a, like it all just funnels to Bentley eventually.

[Zach Klapman]

I drove the one two years ago.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, you drove the 12 cylinder one. Oh, the hybrid one is banana. Did you drive the hybrid one?

[Zach Klapman]

No, I drove the 12 and the eight cylinder.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah, and both of them. I was like, why does this handle so well? And it's also incredibly comfortable and smooth, blah, blah, blah, like it was everything.

[Matt Farah]

There's nothing a Bentley GT can't do exceptionally well. So if you're dailying, especially in four seasons, that's just the ultimate of everything. If you're dailying in some in the south where it's never gonna snow, DB12 is really a nice choice. And anywhere a weekend super gt. This is a fucking. This is nice. This got a lot of love at good vibes. People were really into it. You got, you don't, you don't seem like an asshole when you drive it. You seem like someone who knows some shit.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah. Taking this on like a road and track event would be perfect.

[Matt Farah]

Oh, it'd be amazing.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Wanted to, but I. But they said it was too many miles. This car had almost 6,000 miles on it. It was a lot. This one's been around. I really, really, really enjoyed it as of. And of course I should. Oh, I will say something bad about it. No nose lift, scrapes everywhere. Oh, I must have scraped this thing probably three times a day.

[Zach Klapman]

No nose lift, no Nose lift, weight and stuff. But this thing's heavy already with a splitter. You want that?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, that was strange to me. And I, you know, asked him, was all, you know, be careful, there's no nose lift. And I. And I really. I mean, you know me, I try. I know how to take care. I know how to fucking take a driveway without like, still. Still everywhere I'm scraping this thing. And they. Aston did not say, this one doesn't, but it's an option. They were like, vanquish doesn't have nose lift, so.

[Zach Klapman]

Wow. I mean, because it has carbon front splitter right here.

[Matt Farah]

I don't know if it's carbon, but it ain't rubber. It's black. It's just black. It's not bare weave. No, it's just gloss black.

[Zach Klapman]

Either way, it's not. It doesn't look like the cheap plastic.

[Matt Farah]

It's not a wear item. Like it is on my Spider.

[Zach Klapman]

Right?

[Matt Farah]

My Spider. You change that shit with it. With every oil change.

[Zach Klapman]

The rubber lip, just the little lower apron.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, the rubber lip, it's like. I mean, it's not. It's not nothing, but it's pretty cheap. It's. It's cheap enough where if I scrape it, I go, whatever, fuck it. I'll change it later. Like, it's not, you know, a carbon one on a McLaren or something like. Oh, God, no. Yeah, those are like. Dude, the worst of the carbon rear diffusers. If you have a carbon rear diffuser, you better be real careful backing up those curb stoppers. They fuck people up.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah, with a vertical fin scrape, cracked, whatever.

[Matt Farah]

You hit a curb stopper and you. And you nick nine fins, dude, you're hosed.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah, it's $20,000aminimum.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, it's probably. It's probably closer to 30.

[Zach Klapman]

You lost all your downforce, so now your coring speed is reduced.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, we had a guy. We got a guy who can fix that. You've seen my guy who fixed it where he painted the fibers back on?

[Zach Klapman]

I saw him fix something and it was miraculous.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, the guy was able to. On a bare carbon diffuser, where the guy hit a curb stopper on three fins, repair it, and then, you know, using, I don't know, effectively like a Bondo because it was like a 1cm nick. So we sanded it. He used body filler and then he handed. Painted the weave to match the carbon, and you couldn't see that shit. Wow. And it cost, like. I think it cost the guy like two G's. And replacing it was 40. It was on a 765 LT pinstripe.

[Zach Klapman]

Chris, if you're listening, it was. You can do that and charge five.

[Matt Farah]

What this guy did. And then when I saw it, I was like, you should be charging more. And then the next time, he charged a lot more.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah, he should. For that kind of ability, if it really is hidden.

[Matt Farah]

Wow. No. No one ever saw. No one. No one has ever noticed. It's still there. That's still good. Yeah. Yeah. I've seen him do it on a couple other cars. It's unbelievable. Yeah. But be careful with your curb stoppers. So that's. That's pretty much all I have on. On my list for today. I'm. I'm handing back the trailer to Marco. Do we. We can. Well, no. We'll go. Some questions. We'll. We'll talk about trail. I don't want. I am writing that for road and track, and so I don't want to. I don't want to give too much about it.

[Zach Klapman]

The only thing I'll say, I drove the Bentley Monterey a bit, which was very, very nice. But when I was coming. When we were coming back from Big Sur, we went down there for breakfast, and I was driving with Sarah, and I was driving Hannah back to the house. And I'm just driving, chilling. And then I looked down at the gas gauge, which I hadn't looked at all morning because I'm an idiot. And I was like, it's actually kind of hidden.

[Matt Farah]

If you don't know where it is in the Bentayga, it's not obvious. It's inside of another gauge, and it's a very subtle gauge. And you can thumb through the screen. Like, normally, I have the miles to empty up, but you can change that screen so it shows something else. And then it really doesn't. It really doesn't show much at all.

[Zach Klapman]

I think it was miles to empty, and it had, like, 62. And I didn't have enough service to look up how many miles to the house it was, but I knew it wasn't 10. But to your point, we spoke yesterday. The miles were going down in increments of 5. And then I got real quiet and real nervous.

[Matt Farah]

How low did you get it?

[Zach Klapman]

It was fine. It went down to, like, 40. And we had. But just that moment of, oh, it's not going out down, and we were not going five miles before it would drop.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

I was like, we've gone one mile. It's going down five.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

Now I'm freaking out, and I Think we were like 25 or 30 miles out from the house.

[Matt Farah]

Wow.

[Zach Klapman]

So just for about 10 minutes, Sarah and Hannah kept talking, and I stopped adding anything, and I was just watching this gauge.

[Matt Farah]

Did you tell them this that was happening?

[Zach Klapman]

I told them after I. After you was okay. I literally said, like, by the way, I was quiet because I was worried we were gonna run out of gas.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

But we didn't.

[Matt Farah]

So coming over the Grapevine, which is the big mountain range north of LA, the 5 freeway goes over. It's called Grapevine section of this highway. There was construction. And then in the construction, two semis crashed into each other, wrecking out both their trailers. And one was hanging over the cliff. Geez. And so there were two recovery semis to recover these semis in the middle of a construction zone. So there was already lanes reduced. So I get there and it says on Google, 35 minutes delay. It ended up being an hour and 35 minutes was 95 degrees, and I went like seven, eight miles at like three miles an hour. Now, Bentley radar cruise exceptional, although it doesn't seem to adjust for towing because I wanted to creep pretty close in traffic. So I put it at one bar of distance and it got way too fucking close. Braking, and I was like, it doesn't know about the trailer brake, so ask for one bar. Yeah. So I put three bars and then it was fine. But. But when I got to this traffic, I saw, okay, the accident is eight miles away. It says 35 minutes. I had 90 miles to empty on the thing. I was like, that's fine. There was a gas station not 10 miles past the accident, and it was all downhill there. Ah, whatever. Fine. But every 10 minutes, it just went down by five. And so by the time I got to the accident and started going again, it was down to 40. It went from 90 to 40, and I didn't really know how long much because the thing that said time in traffic, it never went up to an hour and a half or down. I kept sitting there and it kept saying, Plus 35. Plus 35. And I'm like, oh, please, please don't run out of gas in this fucking camera magnet rig. I'm looking at the. There's no shoulders, there's no exits. And I'm like, please, please. This was right. We were same place as the fucking Sapphire, where we're coming back from Sonoma in the Sapphire, where we were sweating, making it. It's there. It's right there.

[Zach Klapman]

It's the Bermuda Triangle of the don't.

[Matt Farah]

Don'T Go up the grapevine without a. Without plenty of fucking juice.

[Zach Klapman]

If you have stations, right? The base where all the outlets are and stuff.

[Matt Farah]

When I went up the hill. No, dude, I went up the hill and it said, you know, ETA 2:00pm Just when I'm deep enough to be. For there to be no alternative. It just went. It went from 2 to 2:40. And I just went, oh. And there was no way out.

[Zach Klapman]

Fuck, yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, That's a bummer. It was a mildly. It was stressful. It was definitely stressful. When I got down, when it got below 50, I was like, oh, you gotta be fucking. But then I'm looking around. I'm looking around at everybody around me, and I'm going, I can't be the only one here who's thinking about this right now. I was like, I bet there's some poor, poor fucking SAP in this traffic jam right now in a fucking little car that, you know, put 20 bucks in or something and is really, really on fucking hovering on E and, like, praying right now.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah, definitely.

[Matt Farah]

You know, I was. At least I was in a Bentley with a massage seat going. I was.

[Zach Klapman]

But if your car runs out of gas, your massage seat ends.

[Matt Farah]

Well, then. Well, so here. But here was my next thought process, which is what I absolutely would have had to find a way to do. I don't know how I would have done it, but I would have had to do it. The fucking Manx is full. I filled it on my left. I filled it on my last drive. The Manx is full and the filler's on the nose. And it's only like 8ft to the Bentley's gas thing. I got 9 gallons of gas right here.

[Zach Klapman]

It's your reserve tank.

[Matt Farah]

But I don't know, what would I have done?

[Zach Klapman]

I'd have to find someone with a hose.

[Matt Farah]

I mean, it was a very slow traffic jam, right? So I could walk car to car and go, who's got a hose?

[Zach Klapman]

You have nine feet of hose. No, you do. Can I use it for gasoline? No, it's for your garden. Lame. Next person. You know what? I bet the. The odds of a truck, like a work truck that has.

[Matt Farah]

That has something. It's pretty decent. Pretty decent.

[Zach Klapman]

I bet you could buy 9ft of hose and that would be an amazing story.

[Matt Farah]

I mean, I. I wouldn't have died up there, but, like, it was stressful.

[Zach Klapman]

You could also just call Triple A and they'd bring you five gallons.

[Matt Farah]

With the traffic, it would have taken them seven hours to get there.

[Zach Klapman]

So what you do is you pull over when you have 25 miles left.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

Just give in. And then you just wait.

[Matt Farah]

You just wait it out.

[Zach Klapman]

The massage in that car is so mid. It is. It's like there's better trying to escape the seat, but the gerbil is tired and out of food. And it's like every 10 seconds there's a very weak nudge. And they don't call it a massage. They call it a postural adjustment.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

And it is neither.

[Matt Farah]

Are you sure you had the massage seat on?

[Zach Klapman]

I'm pretty sure.

[Matt Farah]

How did you turn it on?

[Zach Klapman]

I hit the seat button in like the comfort thing and then there's that. You can select all or you can select back or lower. And I hit.

[Matt Farah]

But you were in the Postural adjustment menu.

[Zach Klapman]

100%.

[Matt Farah]

Postural adjustment is stress relief that's designed to just move you slightly so you're not at the same position all the time. The massage button is on the side of the seat where you move it forward and back and you press it and it brings up the massage touchscreen, which is eight modes. Oh, I take it you did not get there.

[Zach Klapman]

Problem.

[Matt Farah]

Yes.

[Zach Klapman]

I did not get there.

[Matt Farah]

You did not find. I with Bentley experience knew instinctively where that was. What I don't like about that is that you have to put it hit it every 15 minutes. It auto turns off. It doesn't just stay on.

[Zach Klapman]

And it's funny that because the screen does so many things in that car.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

So for you to have to go to a button on the seat for.

[Matt Farah]

Massage, you don't have to then go to the touchscreen. Brings the touchscreen up if you prefer one of the modes. And like I like the lumbar massage mode, so I just leave it in that. So I only have to hit the seatbelt.

[Zach Klapman]

Right. But I'm saying, is there a way to get to the massage menu without hitting the seat button?

[Matt Farah]

Not that I know of.

[Zach Klapman]

That's what I think is silly because the screen controls everything.

[Matt Farah]

Controls all.

[Zach Klapman]

And yet you still have to go to this old school thing. That's just confusing. Journalist.

[Matt Farah]

Probably. Yeah. I should have better trained you on the massage seats. I'm sorry.

[Zach Klapman]

That's okay. Postural adjustment. I guess it did its job then.

[Matt Farah]

The seat heaters and the Manx work really good.

[Zach Klapman]

That's good.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. But after like 400 miles of driving around in that like small bucket seat, like, I fit in it, but it's like not great on my lower back after that many days. My body was a little beat up. Let's go to the people. Of course, if you want to ask questions for the show. Patreon.com the Smokingtirepodcast is where you do that. It's also where you get the show before everybody else. It's also how you can get the show without ads. It's also how you can support us directly in a way that is approximately 7000x more effective than simply watching or listening anywhere else. And it's where you get an extra show every month and exclusive early access to merch collabs. By the way, patrons, this is going up Thursday, right?

[Zach Klapman]

Yes.

[Matt Farah]

Patrons will have access to the final notice Canyon Black Pearl on Thursday.

[Zach Klapman]

You've all been waiting for it. A lot of people been asking. For real.

[Matt Farah]

I know a lot of people been asking. I'm glad they're excited. Believe me, I have a financial interest in getting this watch to you. I will tell you when it's ready. The holdup was it's a different bracelet on this watch. It's an oyster bracelet, not a jubilee bracelet. Because oysters and pearls go together, right?

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

So anyway, it's an oyster bracelet instead of a jubilee bracelet. It will fit with the other. It'll interchange with the other ones. But. But we were waiting on that. Cause it was a new thing. We couldn't just go new. Dial in the same watch. So Thursday for patrons and then they'll have 48 hours. And if there's any left, which I suspect there will not be, but if there are, they will go to the public after that.

[Zach Klapman]

Okay, cool.

[Matt Farah]

Gargle tune. That's pretty funny. Did you see the guy? I don't know if it's fully real, but I saw it on Instagram that a guy let GPT tune his car.

[Zach Klapman]

I did see that video. I don't know if it's true.

[Matt Farah]

I don't know if it's totally real, but it's kind of funny.

[Zach Klapman]

It is. If it's fake, it's great SEO, whatever. I mean, it's great engagement, it's topical. And if it worked, cool.

[Matt Farah]

I would like to see if Mitch. I'd like to sit down with Mitch and have him go through that process and analyze what it spits out.

[Zach Klapman]

Let's do that.

[Matt Farah]

That would actually be more interesting. Yeah, that would be more interesting. So gargletune. Oh, doesn't even want to talk about cars. Wants to talk about cooking. I've just started cooking and I'm loving it. Advice for a novice. Any particular recipes or cooking hardware you'd recommend? Okay, big question here. Recipes I can't I mean, no, but, like, start with recipes, right? Like, most people are intimidated by recipes. And I think that's because a lot of recipes, like in cookbooks are written by people who want to make themselves sound smart. And so they use big, fancy French words instead of, like basic ass words. But a lot of the times, like, YouTube recipes can help because they can show you what to do the same way. Like a YouTube musical instrument lesson versus just trying to read sheet music. So you want to have a couple of really, really good knives. They don't have to be super expensive. They just have to be sharpened properly. You want probably a 9 inch chef's knife and 6 inch chef's knife. You need a good cutting board, obviously. Obviously, you're going to want a couple of good pans, you want one good nonstick, you want one cast iron. And then you probably want like a Dutch oven of some kind. You're going to want good baking sheets with silpats. And then everything else you just kind of buy as you need. I mean, as you find a new recipe that requires a tool, you know, think about it as an opportunity to buy that tool and, like, stuff in your kitchen. Like, you keep that shit forever. I literally have my hand blender, my immersion blender, my pancake blender. I have a Cuisinart, I have a waffle iron, and I have a crock pot. They were all gifts to my mother for their wedding. My fucking mother. And I'm cooking with that shit, still using it all the time. All the time. My mom gave me the pasta maker, the hand crank pasta maker that we've used. My mom got that as a wedding gift and gave it to me brand new in the box like six years ago. I opened it from like 1978. Wow. Yeah. So stuff in the kitchen, if you take care of it, it lasts forever. So any opportunity to buy a new kitchen tool within your budget, you'll probably keep that tool for a very, very long time. And the most important book in your kitchen, forget cookbooks. If you like a chef and want to buy their cookbook, that's cool. But the Internet is really better for recipes than any cookbook. The most important cookbook that you must. Your kitchen is called the Flavor Bible. If you don't have it, you are very much missing out. Do you have it? Really?

[Zach Klapman]

Nope.

[Matt Farah]

Oh, you had it at the big house. But we should. I still have the original copy. The Flavor Bible is the best cookbook because it's not a cookbook, it's an encyclopedia. You look up Any ingredient. Broccoli. Okay. And it shows you everything that goes with broccoli. All complimentary flavors. And, like, some are like, bold and some are starred and like, ones that are bold, like the best flavors. And it's the most important book for here's what I've got in my kitchen. What can I make? Oh, man. The wife says she wants a brussel sprouts dish, but I want some new flavors. Like, what do I do? And like, if you want to like, the way I went from like someone who cooks from recipes to someone who cooks from brain is by starting with a recipe. And when I find a recipe, I like just changing like one ingredient. And the flavor bible helps you decide what ingredient to change and what ingredient to change to. And before you know it, you now have your recipe. It's not the fucking New York Times chicken casserole anymore. It's Matt's chicken casserole. Because I've changed this thing. Recipes and then change one thing at a time. Buy a new tool as a recipe demands it. And buy a tool that's nice enough, that'll last for a long time. Couple of chef's knives. Knives, flavor bible. That'll get you going.

[Zach Klapman]

Your mom drives knife sharpener.

[Matt Farah]

Knife sharpener.

[Zach Klapman]

They don't have to be expensive.

[Matt Farah]

No knife, harp, honing rod and sharpener and. Yeah. But even like every twice a year, maybe professional knife sharpening farmer's market guy does it. It's like $2 an inch.

[Zach Klapman]

Oh, really?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, it's not bad because like, home sharpener is good most of the time, but them then guys with the reel with the angle grinders, they really get it. It done. My knives, the new west ones. Look, with the colorful handles. Lifetime unlimited. So like once a year I FedEx them in and they send them back. Like when I'm going out of town for a week, I'll FedEx them in, they'll sharpen, send them back for free.

[Zach Klapman]

Nice.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Your mom drives a stick. Says the Honda Ferry grants you a new Civic or vintage Civic or Civic based model for free to add to your stable. What do you pick? Any year I would either do a 2000 Civic Si Blue stock, the HDP HP, which.

[Zach Klapman]

What is it called? We drove that one. It was like the first video we ever did.

[Matt Farah]

No, that was 2010. I mean the one from my high school. The Two Door Coupe.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Civic Si or the S this the Civic type R hatch from Japan of that same size era.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah, I think I. Ooh. I mean, I think same one. The blue the blue early 2000s car is a stunner in every way. And it drives awesome.

[Matt Farah]

And they don't exist anymore.

[Zach Klapman]

Well, now they're $200,000.

[Matt Farah]

I, I literally haven't seen a stock one outside of the Honda Museum in years.

[Zach Klapman]

No one's. I bet after that bring a trailer auction, whoever, anyone who owns one is probably not driving it because they're too valuable.

[Matt Farah]

Oh, did I tell you that I spoke with somebody at Ford on Saturday night at the fire pits at Spanish Bay? I spoke with Angie and a few other people at Ford. Remember we talked about the concept car that my aunt drove me around in. Someone at Ford remembers the car was like, oh, the green one? I was like, yes. And I was like, does that car still exist? And they're like, I don't know. We have to like check the like. So I said, if that car still exists, I want to drive it at Woodward Dream Cruise and I want to fucking drive it straight. My aunt and uncle still live in Detroit. I want to drive that bitch to my fucking aunt's front door and be like, look what I got. I think it would blow her mind if I showed up in that car. It'd be a sick story.

[Zach Klapman]

Great story. Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

So they were going to look for the car and see if it's still around. I don't know if it is, but that would be pretty cool, right?

[Zach Klapman]

So cool.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, my aunt Janice rules. She is a fucking serious, serious woman. She a very high level executive at both Ford and Bombardier which does jets as well as they own sea doo ski doo. All the dudes, all the dudes. All the dudes here. Seiko ex girlfriend's eagle talent. That's a lot. Okay, so, so the question here is. I don't want to read the question because it sort of. So, okay, the question is about the Audi RS3. When I reviewed the Audi RS3, there was this misunderstanding between me and Audi or miscommunication or bad information or whatever about how much torque was going to the rear wheels. The question says I drove it in rear wheel drive mode. That's not what it is. It's called torque torque. Rear torque mode, which sends as much power as possible to the rear.

[Zach Klapman]

Right.

[Matt Farah]

The idea being it helps the car slide. In the RS3, which is a car I really like, it only worked. Okay. And so the question is, if me and Audi themselves can't seem to distinguish between these performance modes, who are they being developed for? If you can't tell, who can? But that, that's. I can tell it's not the. It's not me and Audi. It's. It's. We know what the mode did does. The discrepancy was that Audi said it sends 100% of available torque to the rear wheels. The word available never gets above 50%. Right. So that was the thing. I knew there was torque coming to the wheels. I didn't think it was rear wheel drive only. It was just maximum, maximum torque to the wheels. And they said it was 100, but it wasn't driving like it was 100 because it wasn't 100. That was the discrepancy. So it wasn't about feeling or anything like that. It was just about marketing jargon being, in my opinion misleading. Something that is not the car's fault. The car is a front wheel drive based MQB car. They're doing what they can and I actually believe it or not, have we talked about ever that the second half of my September is a complete show that I'm doing the road and track, Seaside to Sierra rally and performance car of the year back to back without coming home. And then I'm tailing that off with playing golf with my dad for a weekend in Northern California. So I have an Rs3 for all of that. So I'm doing an Rs3 for Seaside to Sierra. I'm taking it, I'm tracking it at Sonoma. We then have it for performance car of the year where we're tracking it again. I'm then driving it, you know, 1500 road miles. So I will have a lot of RS3 seat time experience and we will have a lot to talk about after that. I love the RS3. It is such a great car. Such a fucking great car.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah, it was really just the marketing term. Right. Did they adjust it afterwards where they say it's, you know, 100% of the available 50 goes to one wheel, not 100% goes to the wheels.

[Matt Farah]

I didn't chase them down and beat them up to change the words. Once I basically said the word was misleading. They then kind of got mad at me for how I said it and then I said, look, this really isn't my fault. And we sort of left it at that. It was what it was. Okay. Ha. BBI Autosport. I really like that. And I think we should tell Mattim to make a T shirt. That's pretty fucking good, actually. I really do like that one a lot. How do you think that cars that have come out in the last couple of years will age? Will there come a time when owning a used Car is prohibitively expensive due to constantly increasing complexity. We've been saying that for a while and, and it hasn't really. I mean it's driven like if you look at the price of a 2010 or to 2015 like S class or Panamera or 7 series, they're pretty cheap in great part because technology evolves so fast in those types of cars and also because they're so expensive to fix relative to their age and overall value. But that's always kind of been the case. Right? Those luxury cars do depreciate like that. As technology moves pretty fast, I don't know what it will take for them to be re appreciated again, you know.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah, I don't know. And I don't know if the market like let's go ahead 30 years. Will the market for 2010 CLS's be much smaller than the current market for early 2000s AMG or 90s AMG is now. Or will it have the Radwood effect where it's all generational. But maybe people will look at how complicated and expensive it is to fix the twin turbo 4 liter V8. Da da da da.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

And they'll go, actually I'm going to go back to the NA1 because I can just afford to maintain it.

[Matt Farah]

Well and right now the sort of peak collector cars are still, you know, the analog stuff, the stuff that's going on up is the, the end run stick shift stuff and sort of the early hypercars, I guess because there are so few of them. You know, there's, there's only 25 Koenigsegg CCXs. So that's with. When a brand is as strong as Koenigsegg is now. Their early stuff will be very.

[Zach Klapman]

They look so short and stubby by the way. We saw modern cx. They look weird. I saw one, I was like that's a kit, right?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

Compared to the new one.

[Matt Farah]

Did you see the prototype, the CC prototype?

[Zach Klapman]

Brown.

[Matt Farah]

It was like purpley.

[Zach Klapman]

I don't know.

[Matt Farah]

It looks very bizarre.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah, they look funny compared to the newer ones. But I think look, you were talking about at the auction. 250 GTOs are going softening in price. That was a car that seemed like it would only go up in value.

[Matt Farah]

Not GTOs but other, other Ferrari 250 cars. Like 250 the road cars of all that generation. GTOs are. GTOs are in another universe. No, I'm talking about all like 250 GTs and 250 short wheelbases and California's California Spiders. I mean even the only the SWB Competizione, the gray one, that one was huge money, as it should be. Cause it was so, so rare. But the 250 long wheelbase that went right before it did not bring Ferrari California money. I mean it was down, but we saw a couple other 250 based cars that were substantially under the below estimates.

[Zach Klapman]

Wow.

[Matt Farah]

But yeah, I mean Porsche's done a good job by backdating technology. So you can put park carplay in your 997 or in your first gen Cayenne. And so that helps a lot. Certainly that retrofit that makes it more usable today. So we'll see if other companies follow.

[Zach Klapman]

Suit down the road. Like if the PDK pumps start failing, how much will those be to repair? How complicated will they be? Are you going to have someone who, who can buy the car for 50 grand? But is the transmission 12?

[Matt Farah]

That's the question. It may happen. It may happen for sure. Desmoldering rim I'm looking to diversify my collection. I have a C6 Corvette, a Mini Cooper, an F150 and a Hummer H2. Okay. I'm on a budget and I want to spend up to 60k. I'm looking at obvious 911 choices, but I'm starting to get interested in the Lotus Void. Thoughts on that? It's an interesting option.

[Zach Klapman]

I think you should get something from the axis of evil. Just something. Right now it's America and then you got a British paper.

[Matt Farah]

I mean if you've Never owned a 911, 60K will get you a pretty good one. It'll get you a great 997. It'll get you a great 996 Turbo. It'll get you a decent 991. One, probably an S or a lot of Boxster, a ton of Boxster Cayman. However, Evora's I would say as long as it's an S, you definitely want at least an S. You don't want the naturally aspirated one. At least an S. If you can get the right car, it's pretty flat. Money, money in, money out. Miles don't really matter so much. They're such reliable cars, they're so easy to service.

[Zach Klapman]

As long as you, you don't ding a body panel. Right, that's the hard thing.

[Matt Farah]

Well, on Elise's and Exiges those are really bad. It's better on Evora's because they're not like whole clams. The same way that the Elise and the Exige is But it's, you know. Yeah, it's more annoying.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah, it's the only thing. But otherwise they're fantastic cars. And yeah, they nailed it. It looks like a supercar, but it has Toyota reliability. Pretty cool.

[Matt Farah]

The deville went down to Georgia. Wife and I just adopted a Great Dane puppy. Congratulations. I was gonna gr86 but that can't happen now. How about a fun dynamic manual car that can fit a gentle giant. How about this? How about this? The Mini JCW Countryman. Our friend Alonzo Boden the comic has a Great Dane. Adult Great Dane and goes in the back of that.

[Zach Klapman]

Really?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

Oh yeah.

[Matt Farah]

That's a good one.

[Zach Klapman]

I think what you want deville is a fast SUV ish crossover thing. That's a huge dog. So you need that roof height.

[Matt Farah]

So.

[Zach Klapman]

So yeah, that's a great answer.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. I mean you could also do an. Well, man, it's gotta be manual. That's really tough. Cause there's just not a lot of.

[Zach Klapman]

Them Focus st. Maybe it's not that tall, but a taller manual crossover.

[Matt Farah]

I mean dude, you could. If you get a John Cooper works Mini. Forget the Countryman and take the back seats out and do a rear seat delete kit. That dog will fit back there.

[Zach Klapman]

That's true.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah. Just put like a bed.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. The problem is wanting manual. That is like that eliminates. There aren't manual big cars like they.

[Zach Klapman]

Don'T exist because otherwise you could get CX5, you could get a Macan. You could get.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

What else is fast and like a little bit tall? Any number of like Audis.

[Matt Farah]

I. Yeah, I guess like old ones. Not like. Yeah. Oh, if. Yeah. If you don't want manual. Yeah. SQ5 Macan's.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

But the intersection of basically truckish crossover and manual. That's fast.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

Extremely rare.

[Matt Farah]

I don't even know if the Countryman comes in stick anymore. I mean it did for a while. I don't. I'm not even sure it does. Can you get a. Can. You can't get like a. For can you get a Forester and stick or even like not. You can get an Impreza but not like a fast one.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah, well, they're already driving around in sti.

[Matt Farah]

You may have to like build your own car. You may have to. You may have to get a Forester XT with a manual that's like a.

[Zach Klapman]

Few years old and then turn it up a bit.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, didn't. What about that. That a couple years ago. It must have been like 10 years ago the BMW X1 that was with. With manual and rear wheel drive with the N54 engine in it. Those are really fast.

[Zach Klapman]

That's true. Yeah. That's a good one.

[Matt Farah]

Those are fast.

[Zach Klapman]

The N54 is a maintenance nightmare.

[Matt Farah]

I know, but like manual, you could.

[Zach Klapman]

Go what n55x1 with the automatic and it's automatic, but at least it'll be. It'll have most of the things you want. Want?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Mike Spinelli's bus stop hair. I'm inheriting a 94 LT1C4 Corvette. It's mint and auto. Can't get rid of it, but also don't really have any interest in it. Is it worth modifying or do I keep it stock and use it for a funny date night car once every few months? That's too bad. Inheriting a car you got, you. You're stuck with. You can't get rid of. Of it, but you don't really want to drive it.

[Zach Klapman]

I mean, why can't they get rid of it? I think I would now. It could be a too soon situation.

[Matt Farah]

If it's a too soon situation, then I would say wait it out and, and then get rid of it. Because a car that you don't want is really a pain in the ass.

[Zach Klapman]

And you're just gonna let it fall apart. Yeah, I, you know, I would just. Hopefully you can just wait a bit and then explain to friends and family, look, I don't have anywhere to store this. It's costing me extra money. I don't drive. Drive it?

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Is it worth modifying? Like, not really. I mean, what, what if it was, if it was something you enjoyed driving, you could then modify it to make it even better to drive. But like being an auto.

[Zach Klapman]

Right.

[Matt Farah]

I don't know what you're going to do with it to make it more fun to drive.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah. Unless now if you lived in, you know, Georgia, Blue Ridge Parkway, you could do some handling stuff and then you're kind of in one gear anyway. Anyway. But it's such a bad place to start.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, it's. It's not a good place to start for a project unless you were for some reason interested in swapping it to a manual. But that seems like it's not worth the effort in a car like this. Yeah, I don't know, man. I mean, if they suggest keep it stock and use it for a funny date night once every few months, I mean, I guess that's okay. I mean, I guess.

[Zach Klapman]

And it's a weekend car.

[Matt Farah]

If it's a weekend cruiser, like our all Right.

[Zach Klapman]

I would also say if this person hasn't driven it much, they just, they fell in their lap. Drive, drive it for a little bit, maybe you'll grow to to like it.

[Matt Farah]

Bad gardener says the Aston Martin Valhalla has no trunk. It's. Is this not a serious miss when this is supposed to be a real streetcar? I feel like most people buying it would use for dream trips like car week and drives to concours. Would a Valhalla customer use this as their canyon car car? I think a Val customer would use it as their canyon car. This is the mid engine Aston Martin we're talking about. It's probably going to be just under a million dollars, but it'll be very expensive. I don't like when cars don't have trunks. I think cars should have trunks. Almost every time I'm taking a car somewhere, I'm bringing something with me. But listen, Porsche GT3 RS has no trunk. They sold every single one of them. Ford GT has no trunk. They sold every single one of them. A lot of these cars are. The customers are not, they're not road tripping the car that if they're having the car shipped to car week delivered to their house on 17 Mile Drive or being minded by Aston Martin themselves.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah, I think calling it a quote real streetcar as Bad Gardner did is just a really loose term for most people is they'll drive it twice, they'll drive it kind of fast, sort of and then they might, one person will track it. But for most people it's like, oh, I was able to buy the Valhalla, it'll sit in my garage, I'll sell it in a few years and it's not something they're like going to drive around. I don't think it's a road trip car at all. No one's going to road trip this.

[Matt Farah]

I mean there's a difference between a real street car between that and a GT car and a car that you could go on a road trip in. I think, I think a lot of very high performance cars like the T50 and whatever, Paganis and all kinds of stuff, they have very, very small luggage compartments in many cases requiring fitted luggage, if any. And even Porsche's got on the bandwagon with the GT3RS. So my guess is that that bad gardener and my taste for wanting a trunk is not the same as the people actually spending the money on this car.

[Zach Klapman]

Yep.

[Matt Farah]

Having said that, my new car has no trunk.

[Zach Klapman]

That's true. Yes. Sarah. Sarah wanted to put her sweater somewhere and Hannah was like in your. We're at Quail. And she was like, oh, can I throw my sweater in? In the Manx. And we don't want to, like, just discard clothing visibly. But Hannah was like, where can we put it? In the man.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. There isn't anywhere. There's nothing granny shift and not double clutching like you should says. Do you have any embarrassing or funny stories of when you were younger? I mean, sure. There's plenty of things I'm embarrassed about from when I was younger. I assume you mean car things. There are things that if you saw the picture of my car without context, you'd probably be embarrassed or you'd probably be like, cringy. Like. I had a Subaru, my first Subaru Legacy, but I was hanging around with Mustang people, so I had a. I put a Hurst T handle shifter on my Subaru, but I was also hanging out with Volkswagen people. So I had the Thule snowboard rack that they were putting on the jettas and the GTIs at the time. And I also did street grill glow neon on the car. Now, this was in 1997. This was three years before the Fast and the Furious came out, so it was not considered corny at the time. It was actually kind of novel. In hindsight, it's amateurish and not cool.

[Zach Klapman]

But now it's come back.

[Matt Farah]

Now it's come back. There was cars at Car Week with fucking street glow on it.

[Zach Klapman]

I think Jesse Iwuji's R34 has street glow on it because it's like. It's an homage to the Japanese tuner scene where that came from.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, well. And now with LED strips, they can do it much easier. I had neon tubes.

[Zach Klapman]

Whoa.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, it wasn't great. And I literally bought an exhaust from actual AutoZone.

[Zach Klapman]

I bought a. Oh, yeah, me too.

[Matt Farah]

I bought a muffler from autozone.

[Zach Klapman]

I bought a fucking intake manifold because it's Edelbrock.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

I pulled inspiration from everywhere.

[Matt Farah]

Though in hindsight, that is like. Yeah, that's not great. But like, at the time when you were 16 and like, the Internet wasn't fully developed yet and Subaru, like, the WRX wasn't here, there was no Subaru aftermarket at all in America at the time. Very true. So, like, why kind of just improv it and wouldn't do that again today, but, you know, is what it is. Pontiac Simon Phoenix. How does that go together? Is there a Pontiac Phoenix? Pontiac Simon Phoenix I don't get. Because Simon Phoenix is the guy from Demolition Man, Wesley SNIPES. His character Pontiac is a car, but I don't know how, I don't, I don't know the contraction.

[Zach Klapman]

There was a Pontiac Phoenix sold from 77 to 84.

[Matt Farah]

Just get the fuck out of here. What does a Pontiac Phoenix look like?

[Zach Klapman]

I'll let you just describe it. 77 to 84 from Pontiac.

[Matt Farah]

All right, it's. Is it 7784? It's a malaise era hatchback that shares its platform with some kind of awful Chevy. Maybe a Chevette.

[Zach Klapman]

Yeah, it's a malaise era coupe, but you know, it's a box, it's.

[Matt Farah]

Oh, God. Oh, oh, okay, cool. That's the. It's like a. Is that a B body, maybe, Whatever. That's.

[Zach Klapman]

Oh, actually. And there also is a hatchback.

[Matt Farah]

There's a hatchback. Is that the Vega? Is that share with a Vega? Maybe, I don't know. But it looks terrible.

[Zach Klapman]

There's a four door version that's even worse.

[Matt Farah]

God, look at that. That looks like a Chevette or something. That's fucking awful. Wow. Okay. All right. Thank you. Pontiac Simon Phoenix. I now dub that a good username. Always wanted to send good. Oh, they asked this last week. I don't have an enthusiast car. Can I go to Good Vibes? Yes. Park. Not somewhere in the middle.

[Zach Klapman]

Hang out, make friends.

[Matt Farah]

Okay, wait a minute.

[Zach Klapman]

No.

[Matt Farah]

No, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going. Gin and Taconic State Parkway. Is the Ferrari FF a good buy at 100 to 110k? If you want a comfortable, modern Ferrari GT experience for a third of what that costs normally, yes. However, they are very, very expensive to maintain. As an example, we have a client with a GTC4LUSSO, which is the turbocharged version. But the story, we just had to take it to service. We had to replace a faulty window switch. It was $2,400 for a window switch. So just so you know, that's what you're looking at for parts with a secondhand Ferrari Fiat Anti Chrysler. That's kind of funny. Is getting a long wheelbase car like a Town Car 7 Series G etc a bad idea for a driver who just loves the look of it? No, if you like the look of a long wheelbase car, get a long wheelbase car. That's okay. They're not, they're not like.

[Zach Klapman]

I mean, buy. If you like the look of a.

[Matt Farah]

Car, just, just buy it. Just get it. Yeah, that's fine. No reason not to.

[Zach Klapman]

For sure.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, no reason not to. Okay, last, last one. Nice camp.

[Zach Klapman]

But this is like the greatest name.

[Matt Farah]

Jeremy Clarkson spoke in class today. That fucking rules. Oh, that's. Just completed a 10,000 mile road trip across the US on tour with my band. What is the prettiest state to drive through on regular highways and interstates?

[Zach Klapman]

Utah.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. Utah or Colorado. Probably. Probably.

[Zach Klapman]

I think at the right time of year, if you get meaning, like the angle of the sun at sunrise or sunset in Utah lights up. They have so many different colors of rocks. Yeah, there's like purple stuff, red stuff. I mean I was blown away going through Utah again.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, Utah. If we're just talking about scenery, roads that go by scenery.

[Zach Klapman]

It keeps interesting the whole time.

[Matt Farah]

Tough to beat that. Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

I heard Montana has some stunning parts.

[Matt Farah]

It does, but it's. But it's Utah's more like more variety. Montana is big mountains and beautiful forests and things like that. But there's just. And then, you know, there's just sort of a lot of that Utah. It starts with desert and then red rocks and then huge Rockies and then forest. There's more variety, I think. Yeah. Good ones. Good ones today. We will save the rest for the next. Oh, wait. Oh, people do we love. No, no, no. We'll save those. Okay. We will save those. Thank you everybody. We appreciate. Is that the right. Is the right time. We on time.

[Zach Klapman]

123.

[Matt Farah]

Ah. We'll do two more. We'll do two more. Matt substitute video editor says thoughts on the new Lamborghini. Phenomenal.

[Zach Klapman]

Phenomenal.

[Matt Farah]

Phenomenal. I. I don't know like what it is. Like I didn't really care. Like I saw it and then I kind of didn't care so I kept going. Is it. It's just like the. It's just like a different body on a Revuelto from what I think.

[Zach Klapman]

I never noticed this. They have something they called the few offs.

[Matt Farah]

No, the few off. It's like the cyan and whatever. The venenos. Those are the few off. They'll do like 10. So they're doing 29 and I don't care. They're going to go to a bunch of billionaires who are never going to drive them. So the interior looks basically like a Revuelto and. Yeah, okay, cool. I hope, I hope the people that are lucky enough to buy them make excellent returns on their investment as being part of the Access club.

[Zach Klapman]

Did you see the cars there? They were called like eccentric or something like that.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, the, the, the. The reimagined Diablos. That's what that is, right? Yeah. Johnny really likes the them. I don't love them. I think they look off. I think the late Audi era Diablos are just much, much prettier. Just get one of them. That's an audi. A Diablo 6O is a restomod Diablo. That's a Diablo. That Audi re engineered to be a much better Diablo. Just get that. Yeah, I didn't do it for me. I did like look up the totem Alfa Romeos. I'll fuck with these.

[Zach Klapman]

Oh, these are cool.

[Matt Farah]

We're getting one to drive, by the way. These are really cool. This is like, I was pretty down with these things.

[Zach Klapman]

These have the prettiest engine bay I've ever seen.

[Matt Farah]

The prettiest engine bay. And the interiors are batshit. The one that I saw had this crazy like floral pattern on it. And the shift knob was Murano glass. It took my hot dog shift knob from the Manx to like super next level. So we're gonna get one of these to drive. They look sick.

[Zach Klapman]

600 horsepower.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. So like, if that Alfaholics one is the singer of Alpha, this is the Gunther works.

[Zach Klapman]

Ah, yeah.

[Matt Farah]

Look. I mean these are. These are pretty slick though.

[Zach Klapman]

I mean, it's a beautiful shape.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, the. The interior was insane on the one that was there.

[Zach Klapman]

So make an electric one and the gas one and then a super.

[Matt Farah]

So the gas. The. We're gonna get the gas 1. The GT super, which has a leather interior, like a more like luxurious interior. That other like crazy one has like the full carbon interior, which looked insane but not as comfy.

[Zach Klapman]

And I agree. Yeah, man. This is.

[Matt Farah]

This is the one to have, right?

[Zach Klapman]

This profiles ever.

[Matt Farah]

I mean, it just looks fabulous. They look great in person. And this dude Ricardo, who was there selling them, he was a. He was a boss. I liked it. Yeah, those are gonna be cool. Can't wait to drive that. And last one, of course, frozen. Oh. Oh. Frozen dingleberry metallic. Oh, I look thin. Thanks. I feel thin. I think Christian says okay.

[Zach Klapman]

This feels like a lot of googling.

[Matt Farah]

It's so much. I can't. I can't. I don't know what tickets cost. Yeah. Christian, I want to help you, but I can't tell you you what events happen and prices per ticket are. I've never bought a ticket to anything.

[Zach Klapman]

I'll say the short answer because they say, are there events that cost less than $1,000? Yes. Oh my God. For sure. Autopian puts on a good event. There's the.

[Matt Farah]

I think the concourse is. The actual concourse is like 500, which is.

[Zach Klapman]

And that's expensive. But there are Car shows all over town, they're free. Some are like $12, I think the Autobahn legends, you had to pay to park, and if you paid advance, it was 30 bucks. And if you just parked on the street somewhere, you could just walk on. So, like, there's tons of stuff that costs.

[Matt Farah]

And there's a full calendar that gets published, like by. I think it's by the pebble beach concourse, actually. They publish a full calendar of like all car week events. It's really only the concourse, the Quail Motorlux that are expensive tickets. I mean, going to manufacturer parties, you can't even buy tickets to that. You have to be invited. Stuff like auctions. You can buy a spectator ticket to an auction. It might be like 50 bucks. I mean, that might be a lot. It might not be a lot for you, but like, it's not a thousand. You don't have to be a bidder. You can buy a spectator ticket to that with those.

[Zach Klapman]

Can you like walk through the pit of cars that are coming up? Yeah, that's a great.

[Matt Farah]

You can go basically anywhere. Except you can't, like sit in the front, like, you know, 25 rows or whatever.

[Zach Klapman]

I don't want to sit there anyway. What do I care? And they're like, oh, you just bid, right? No, thanks.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, there's tons of shit that's free or regular people prices. It's really just quail concours and motorlux that are insanely expensive. Okay, wait. Vespa question. I'm going to be in Sonoma and Napa counties a week, a month for the next year. I don't actually have to get anywhere because I'm work from home and I can always Uber if the weather is bad. But when it's nice, have to out. Is a Vespa good for the roads? I'd be looking at a 300, but don't understand the differences between the lines. I want to avoid getting a car because of parking it for weeks on end, but a bike or scooter I can leave in a friend's garage on a tender. Okay, cool. I like where your head is at, Courtney. I think as long as you don't have to go too, too far. You know, Sonoma and Napa counties are like big, big windy roads. There's some highways, there's some back roads. There's ur. It's very beautiful. It does rain there. You do have actual rain. It's not like la. It rains, you know, somewhat regularly up there. So mainly a 300 would be ideal. A 300 is the biggest Vespa they make, it's water cooled. It's not still not that big, but it has better suspension, better brakes, better storage, better everything. A little more money up front, it goes faster, it stops better. It has ABS and traction control. 150s are smaller. If you're a man under 150 pounds, then you'd get a 150 above that. Get a 300. But I like the idea. I think you get a phone mount for it so you can use your gps. It has a USB port in it so you can keep your phone charged. If you want to go to Bluetooth to a headset so you can use GPS and get the cargo box on the back for your groceries and you're in business. Buy it used. Pull up. Like just real quick pull up. Craigslist. Let's just see what. Let's look at Craigslist for Sonoma, California. What city instead of maybe San Francisco. Bay area, SF Bay area. And maybe we can do nearby. Do we have Sonoma, Napa. N anything, huh. Just look up Bay area for sale, motorcycles. And then just search Vespa 300. And let's see what does a Vespa 300 go for in San Francisco right now on Craigslist. Oh, top right. 33, 750. Great color. San Jose South, 3,700 miles. 7,200 bucks. I'm going to sell mine at a profit fucking today. Give me 7200 for mine. Let's go. It looks like five to seven thousand gets you a great one. Three to five thousand gets you an okay one. And that's just on a quick glance of Craigslist in the San Francisco Bay area. And that's good. That's money in, money out. Whatever you pay for it now, you'll be able to sell it for basically that in a year. Yep, I endorse that decision.

[Zach Klapman]

It's a really pleasant way to get around Napa.

[Matt Farah]

Oh, fabulous.

[Zach Klapman]

Smell the grapes and stuff and it would be fabulous.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah, I'm definitely pro that. Get some good gear though. Like if you're riding that around Napa as transportation, like you don't have to wear full leathers or anything, but you gotta wear a good jacket. You gotta wear a full face helmet, you gotta wear gloves. Maybe consider shoes. I mean, if it was me, I would only wear jeans, but I would maybe consider some riding pants that are reinforced that look like, like regular pants.

[Zach Klapman]

There's a lot of great options because the roads could be damp there. Yeah, the roads can get cold and all that kind of stuff and people drink wine.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah.

[Zach Klapman]

Be careful.

[Matt Farah]

Yeah. I wouldn't treat it like you're in Bermuda with your flip flops on your rental scooter for the day. I would treat it more like motorcycling a little bit.

[Zach Klapman]

How are the headlights on that? I remember when I was in Sonoma, when it's dark there, it's dark.

[Matt Farah]

It's real dark. It's real dark. But I mean, my Vespa's headlight is fine. It's got high beams and low beams. Like, I've never had a problem with it. Yeah, it's good. That's our show, folks. Folks, I'm going to go return this trailer to Marco. And I appreciate the questions from all of our patrons. We certainly aren't going to throw the rest away. We will get to them, provided we haven't already covered those topics. And yeah, new merch coming up in the smokentyreshop.com or click the link on our website. And of course, the Black Pearl Notice Canyon will be available to patrons in a matter of days or by the time you are listening to this, if you're not listening to it early today, probably Thursday. Thursday the whatever. 21st.

[Zach Klapman]

Oh, yeah.

[Matt Farah]

21St. Yeah. Nothing else. Bye.