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The Social Work Pivot
Hosted by Janet Ayoola · EN
This podcast is designed for experienced child and family social workers who are considering a career transition, whether you’re looking to move up the ladder or explore opportunities beyond statutory social work. Join me as we delve into insightful discussions, expert interviews, and practical advice to help you navigate your next career move with confidence and clarity. Stay tuned for more updates and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode. Let’s make your career pivot a success!
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Messy Social Work: Rich Devine on Writing Online and Child Protection Social Work
Jun 2400:48:00Tap to summarizeSend a textIn this episode, I sit down with Rich Devine, a dedicated social worker, to explore the emotional and psychological challenges of the profession. Rich shares his personal journey, from his early motivations influenced by his father's struggles, to his experiences in child protection and the impact of his work on his own life. We delve into the realities of social work, discussing the importance of attachment theory, the complexities of working with families, and the emotional toll of making difficult decisions. Rich also opens up about his experiences of regularly writing about social work online and how it led to the publication of his book, 'Messy Social Work.' This episode is particularly inspiring for social workers who want to share their expertise online but are hesitant or don't know where to start. Join us for an insightful conversation that sheds light on the often unspoken aspects of social work and offers valuable lessons for both new and experienced practitioners. Whether you're a social worker, a student, or simply interested in the field, this episode provides a deep and personal look into the world of social work.Read Rich's blog here: https://richarddevinesocialwork.com/Buy Rich's book 'Messy Social Work': https://uk.jkp.com/products/messy-social-work Sign up for our newsletter Beyond the Caseload for more success stories, insights and resources to guide and inspire you in your career pivot: www.thesocialworkpivot.com
Transcribe →From Statutory Social Work to Charity Leadership: Oretha Wofford's Inspiring Social Work Career
Jun 1700:48:20Tap to summarizeSend a textIn this inspiring episode, I welcome Oretha Wofford, a dedicated social worker, to share her remarkable journey from childhood in care to becoming a leader in social work. Oretha's story begins with her powerful childhood memory of black bin bags which evolved into a lifelong commitment to ensuring no child feels devalued.Discover how Oretha's experiences shaped her career, her transition from the US to the UK, and her impactful work in various social work settings. We then delve into Oretha's pivot into charity leadership, first as a trustee and then as the CEO of St. Michaels Fellowship. Tune in to learn about Oretha's innovative approaches and her vision for the future of social work.Learn more about St. Michaels' Fellowship: https://stmichaelsfellowship.org.uk/ Sign up for our newsletter Beyond the Caseload for more success stories, insights and resources to guide and inspire you in your career pivot: www.thesocialworkpivot.com
Transcribe →From Frontline Challenges to Coaching Solutions - Interview with Kate Cuthbertson
Jun 1000:43:42Tap to summarizeSend a textJoin me as I sit down with Kate Cuthbertson, a seasoned social worker and accredited coach, to explore the transformative journey from frontline social work to coaching and mentoring. In this insightful episode, Kate shares her early childhood experiences that led to embarking on her social work career, the impact of coaching on social work practice, and the importance of maintaining boundaries and self-care. Discover how coaching can empower social workers, enhance their professional growth, and improve retention in the field. Whether you're a social worker, a coach, or someone interested in the helping professions, this episode offers valuable insights and practical advice for navigating the complexities of social work.Tune in to learn about:Kate's journey from frontline social work to becoming a coach supervisor.The role of coaching in supporting social workers through transitions and challenges.The importance of reflective supervision and maintaining professional boundaries.How coaching can help realign values and rejuvenate passion for social work.Don't miss this engaging conversation that highlights the power of coaching in transforming social work practice and supporting the well-being of social workers.BASW's free coaching service (free for BASW members only in England, free for all social workers in Scotland and Wales): https://basw.co.uk/support/social-work-professional-support-service-swpssConnect with Kate: linkedin.com/in/kate-cuthbertson-b865b742 Sign up for our newsletter Beyond the Caseload for more success stories, insights and resources to guide and inspire you in your career pivot: www.thesocialworkpivot.com
Transcribe →Transforming Social Work Assessments: Geraldine Wetherell on the Innovative CUBAS Model
Jun 300:53:41Tap to summarizeSend a textIn this episode of the Social Work Pivot Podcast, I have the pleasure of interviewing Geraldine Wetherell, the co-creator of CUBAS, alongside Clair Chamberlain. CUBAS is a dynamic and adaptable parenting assessment model and software-assisted solution designed to empower social workers. Geraldine shares her inspiring journey into social work, the development of CUBAS, and how this innovative model is transforming the way social workers assess and support families. Tune in to learn more about the CUBAS model and how it can enhance your practice, truly making every assessment an intervention for change. We also discuss how social workers can embark into independent practice, after training in the CUBAS model. Don't miss this insightful conversation that promises to inspire and motivate social workers at all stages of their careers.Learn more about CUBAS: https://cubas.co.uk/How to be train in the CUBAS model: https://cubas.co.uk/cubas-training/ Sign up for our newsletter Beyond the Caseload for more success stories, insights and resources to guide and inspire you in your career pivot: www.thesocialworkpivot.com
Transcribe →Same Skills, New Sector: How Social Workers Can Pivot into Roles Outside of Statutory Social Work
May 2700:23:12Tap to summarizeSend a textIn this episode, I dive into the second type of career pivot, where you remain in the same career but transition to a different sector. As a social worker, you may find yourself emotionally drained, feeling unheard, or misaligned with your current setting. This episode addresses these challenges and explores how you can stay connected to your identity as a social worker while finding new environments that align more closely with your values.I share practical steps for mapping out your transferable skills, exploring aligned sectors, and reworking your CV and language to make a successful transition. You'll hear real-life examples of social workers who have made this pivot and the benefits they've experienced. Plus, I discuss how to manage potential pay cuts and the importance of considering the full compensation package.This is the second podcast in the series on the four types of career pivots, and there are two more episodes to come. Whether you're looking to escape burnout, redefine your role, or simply explore new opportunities, this episode is packed with insights and actionable advice to help you make a value-led change without starting from scratch.Don't forget to subscribe, share, and leave a review if you find this podcast helpful in your career journey. Episodes referred to in this episode:Episode 1: What is a Career Pivot? https://www.buzzsprout.com/2388843/episodes/15472675Episode 17: Finding a Sustainable Path in Statutory Social Work Roles https://www.buzzsprout.com/2388843/episodes/16704491 Sign up for our newsletter Beyond the Caseload for more success stories, insights and resources to guide and inspire you in your career pivot: www.thesocialworkpivot.com
Transcribe →Feeling Stuck in Your Career? Use the Pivot Flywheel to Plan Your Next Step in Social Work
May 13, 202500:35:26Tap to summarizeSend a text In this episode of "The Social Work Pivot," I address the feeling of career stagnation among social workers. I explore the challenges faced by experienced social workers who feel undervalued and unsure of their next steps. I introduce the "Social Work Pivot Flywheel," a process designed to help social workers move forward with intention and align their careers with their values and goals.Key Points Discussed:Feeling Stuck: I acknowledge the feeling of being stuck in a social work career and the lack of structured support around career development.The Social Work Pivot Flywheel: Inspired by Jim Collins' concept from "Good to Great," the flywheel represents a cycle of steady, consistent movement to build career momentum.Stages of the Flywheel:Reflection and Identity: Taking stock of your career and life, identifying what has served you, and considering the type of life you want to create.Clarity and Direction: Gaining clarity on the kind of career pivot you want to make.Skills Mapping: Identifying and mapping your existing skills and understanding how to use them in your next role.Experimentation: Testing out your ideas safely through side hustles, volunteering, or other means.Building Credibility and Seeking Opportunities: Building credibility, seeking paid opportunities, and actively pursue a more permanent transition.Levers to Keep the Flywheel Turning: Key resources such as time, finances, learning, experience, and networking help build momentum and keep the flywheel turning.Takeaways:The Social Work Pivot Flywheel is a repeatable process that can be revisited as your life and goals evolve.Building momentum in your career requires steady effort, reflection, and experimentation.Networking and leveraging key resources are essential to making a successful career pivot.Call to Action:Download the free visual guide to the Social Work Pivot Flywheel here: https://www.canva.com/design/DAGnVuoTO2g/1nDK9dEyl6EuWnhEptl6uQ/view?utm_content=DAGnVuoTO2g&utm_campaign=designshare&utm_medium=link2&utm_source=uniquelinks&utlId=h10e56b5525Considering one-to-one coaching with me to help you make your career pivot with confidence? Book a call with me to discuss the options here: https://calendly.com/janet-thesocialworkpivot/discovery-call-15-minsResources mentioned in this episode:Episode 1: What is a Career Pivot? https://www.buzzsprout.com/2388843/episodes/15472675 - discusses the four type of career pivot.Episode 4: From Social Work to Occupational Therapy: Karlene's Journey and the Power of Career Planning: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2388843/episodes/15790659Episode 9: Nailing Your Next Job Interview: Tips for Social Workers: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2388843/episodes/16076255 - discusses the STAR Method.'Good to Great' by Jim Collins - available in all major bookstores.Subscribe and Share: Don't forget to subscribe to "The Social Work Pivot," leave a review, and share this episode with a colleague who might also be feeling stuck in their career. Sign up for our newsletter Beyond the Caseload for more success stories, insights and resources to guide and inspire you in your career pivot: www.thesocialworkpivot.com
Transcribe →From Social Worker to Entrepreneur: Wendy Grant's Journey into Independent Social Work Practice with Separated Families
May 7, 202500:40:24Tap to summarizeSend a textToday's podcast episode is an interview with Wendy Grant, a seasoned social worker whose career spans South Africa and the UK. In this insightful episode, Wendy shares her journey into social work, influenced by her parents' values and the societal changes in South Africa. Discover the differences in social work practice between the two countries, and learn about Wendy's transition to the UK, where she worked in various roles across London boroughs.Wendy also discusses her move into independent social work, launching a business that supports parents navigating private law proceedings related to divorce and separation. With practical advice and personal anecdotes, Wendy offers a unique perspective on balancing work and business, overcoming challenges, and the importance of investing in oneself.Whether you're a social worker, aspiring entrepreneur, or simply interested in the field, this episode is packed with valuable insights and inspiration. Tune in to hear Wendy's story and gain a deeper understanding of the dynamic world of social work.Wendy's service for separated parents: Caring Interventions: https://caringinterventions.co.uk/To commission work from Wendy, contact at: info@caringinterventions.co.uk Sign up for our newsletter Beyond the Caseload for more success stories, insights and resources to guide and inspire you in your career pivot: www.thesocialworkpivot.com
Transcribe →From Frontline Social Work to Full-Time Life Coach: Ellie Iovine’s Journey of Career Change and Growth
Apr 8, 202500:43:23Tap to summarizeSend a textToday, I’m joined by Ellie Iovine, a former child protection social worker turned full-time life coach. Ellie spent 10 years in frontline safeguarding, working with children and families in crisis. She remained committed to direct client work, serving as an advanced practitioner for three years, but never felt drawn to management—she thrived in community-based work, making a direct impact.After three attempts to leave social work, Ellie finally took the leap in December 2024, stepping fully into life coaching. For three years, she balanced social work with building her business, training under Bob Proctor (from the Proctor Gallagher Institute), until she was ready to make the transition. Now, she helps others transform their lives with the same passion and dedication she brought to social work.In this episode, Ellie shares:The challenges of both practicing and leaving social workHow she built her coaching business while working in frontline safeguardingWhy life coaching was the right next step and how her social work skills transferred seamlesslyAdvice for social workers considering a career changeIf you’ve ever felt drawn to something new but struggled to make the change, Ellie’s story will inspire you. Let’s dive in!Links:Contact Ellie: https://linktr.ee/Elevate_and_Create https://proctorgallagherinstitute.com/ Sign up for our newsletter Beyond the Caseload for more success stories, insights and resources to guide and inspire you in your career pivot: www.thesocialworkpivot.com
Transcribe →Is Statutory Social Work a Lifelong Career? Why It’s Time to Take Charge of Your Career Path
Apr 1, 202500:18:21Tap to summarizeSend a textIs statutory social work really a lifelong career—or just one part of your journey? In this inspiring episode, we explore why many child and family social workers are leaving the profession earlier than expected. We unpack the impact of burnout, health issues, time and financial pressures—and why simply training more social workers won’t fix the retention crisis.More importantly, we’ll talk about what you can do: how to take control of your career path, plan your next steps, and define what success looks like for you. Whether you're curious about career pivots or simply need space to reflect, this episode is your permission to take charge.💡 In this episode, we cover:How long social workers typically stay in statutory rolesWhat’s really driving people out of the professionWhy personal wellbeing and values matter in career planningThe questions every social worker should ask themselves before burnout hitsHow to start shaping a more sustainable and fulfilling future📚 Sources & Statistics Mentioned:The Expected Working Life of a Social Worker 🔗 Read on ResearchGateStrengthening the Workforce: Retention in Social Work (Research in Practice) 🔗 Download the reportStress and Psychological Distress in Social Work (British Journal of Social Work) 🔗 Read summary articleChildren’s Social Work Workforce Statistics (Department for Education) 🔗 View official data🔁 Share this episode with a colleague or friend who might be questioning their next step—and remind them they have more options than they think.💬 Join the conversation: What does success look like for you—personally and professionally? Tag me on LinkedIn or Instagram and let’s talk about it. Sign up for our newsletter Beyond the Caseload for more success stories, insights and resources to guide and inspire you in your career pivot: www.thesocialworkpivot.com
Transcribe →Interview with Carrissa Kai: From Social Work to Trauma-Informed Health Coaching
Mar 25, 202500:50:31Tap to summarizeSend a textIn this episode of The Social Work Pivot Podcast, I speak with Carrissa Kai, a former social worker turned Trauma-Informed Body Transformation Coach. Carrissa shares how her experience with burnout, mental health struggles, and obesity led her to create Keep Me Curvy, where she helps high-achieving women break free from emotional eating and metabolic disease.Before launching her business, Carrissa worked in domestic abuse services, residential children's homes, and statutory child protection. After facing burnout and a mental health crisis, she knew she needed a change. Now, she uses her expertise to help others reclaim their health.We discuss:How burnout led Carrissa to rethink her careerThe connection between trauma, emotional eating, and metabolic healthWhy coaching was the right path for her—and how social workers can use it tooPractical steps for social workers interested in career transitions or coachingIf you’re exploring new career paths, coaching, or ways to manage stress and well-being, this episode is for you.Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/keepmecurvy/LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/carrissakai Sign up for our newsletter Beyond the Caseload for more success stories, insights and resources to guide and inspire you in your career pivot: www.thesocialworkpivot.com
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