Best Of Southern Tea: Body Image, Carnivore Diet & Pre-planning Our Funerals

Summary

Podcast Summary:

The Southern Tea – "Best Of Southern Tea: Body Image, Carnivore Diet & Pre-planning Our Funerals"
Host: Lindsie Chrisley (with co-host)
Release Date: December 31, 2025
Podcast Platform: PodcastOne

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Episode Overview

In this wide-ranging "best of" episode, Lindsie Chrisley and her close co-host candidly discuss themes around body image and societal expectations, Lindsie’s experience trying the carnivore diet, and the surprisingly practical (and emotional) topic of pre-planning funerals. The episode is deeply personal, full of Southern humor, and unfiltered insights about self-acceptance, family, and the realities of modern life as a mom and working woman.

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Key Topics and Insights

1. Body Image, Size, and Clothing Struggles

(Begins ~02:30)

• Clothes Shopping Frustrations:
  Lindsie shares her challenges finding clothes as a naturally slender woman, describing how even being at the lower end of sizing can feel alienating.
  • “My body is what it is. I eat. I just got finished having a southern girl lunch… I don’t really put on weight.” – Lindsie Chrisley (04:00)
• Society’s Expectations:
  Both hosts discuss how society is generally fatphobic, but also rarely considers the struggle of those at the opposite end of the spectrum. They note no one seems content with their body even among diverse friendship circles.
  • “I don’t have a single person in my life that is happy with their body. And that’s crazy to say. And I have a wide variety of different bodied friends.” – Co-host (06:18)
• Impact of Hurtful Comments & Self-Image:
  Lindsie recounts a dressing room experience where she was told she should shop in the girls’ section, not the women’s, and how it left a lasting impact.
  • “Someone said to me, well, you’re shopping in the women’s section, but you really need to be shopping in girls… and I have struggled with it and think about that every time I go to a store.” (06:43)

Notable Quotes:

• “Size does not determine if you’re a woman or if you’re a girl. Like, size doesn’t make you a woman.” – Lindsie (09:56)
• “We’re all trying to match this crazy aesthetic that somebody made up. Like, somebody decided this is what beauty is. And that’s crazy.” – Co-host (11:57)

Personal Experiences:

• Lindsie discusses how changes after breastfeeding (loss of breast volume) led her to consider plastic surgery—not out of vanity, but for self-acceptance as a woman.

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2. The True Value (and Overlooked Cost) of Stay-At-Home Parents

(Begins ~12:52)

• Economic Value Breakdown:
  Lindsie reads a breakdown of the economic value of a stay-at-home parent, highlighting costs avoided in childcare, meals, housekeeping, etc.—adding up to $85,000 or more per year.
  • “Daycare cost avoided $25,000, home cooked meals $20,000, nanny services $20,000… total savings of $85,000.” (13:52)
• Personal Validation:
  The conversation validates the work of stay-at-home moms, calling them “overlooked heroes” (14:04), and agrees the real cost is likely even higher today.
• Work-Life Balance Struggles:
  Both reference how two adults working outside the home is unsustainable with current expectations, leading to lack of family time and constant catch-up.

Notable Quotes:

• “Our society and the way that we live was not set up to have two people in a household working outside of the home. It was not.” – Co-host (15:56)
• “Think about all the things they miss all throughout the week, and then they have no family time on the weekend because they’re trying to catch up…” – Lindsie (17:01)

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3. Carnivore Diet: Personal Experiences and Reasons

(Begins ~20:31)

• Why Carnivore?
  Lindsie describes how she transitioned to a primarily meat-based (carnivore) diet, feeling it’s what her body craves, and shares mixed feelings about giving up old staples.
  • “I love meat so much… Once you get there, all you crave is meat.” (21:59)
• Experimentation and Effects:
  She details her favorite meals (steak, salmon, ground beef with liver and heart), finding increased energy, but clarifies: “I’m not a doctor and I’m also not a dietitian, so no one listened to me.” (26:15)
• No Going Back:
  Lindsie says she's unlikely to stop carnivore, and describes how she's lost the craving for salads, soups, or even potatoes.

Memorable Story:

• Her introduction to “Force of Nature” ground beef (with organ meats) came unknowingly during a post-party meal at her boyfriend’s house:
  • “He cooks it, and I’m like, that is the best burger that I’ve ever had in my life… He never tells me anything until it gets time to go to bed. And he was like, ‘I know that you told me to never feed you that, but that’s the only meat that I had.’… So now I am also on that meat.” (23:49)

Notable Quotes:

• "I don’t know if I ever will not be on the carnivore diet, like, ever again in my life." – Lindsie (25:44)
• “It probably has to do with like your iron levels and like hemoglobin…” – Co-host (26:08)

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4. Funeral Planning: Facing Death Pragmatically and Emotionally

(Begins ~34:53)

• Viral Clip – The Makeup Mortician:
  The hosts play audio from the “makeup mortician” Elise, who educates about burial options and her own funeral preferences, including a strong belief in open-casket viewings for grief processing.
  • “Viewing our loved ones is one of the hardest things we will ever have to do after they’ve passed away… But you do it right the first time around, it will make your grief journey later so much easier and healthier.” – Elise (Makeup Mortician, 36:05)
• Personal Comfort with Death and Funerals:
  Both hosts share their personal discomfort with funerals, distinct memories of the “funeral home smell” (peace lilies), and how sensory details are linked to grief.
  • “I am not for open casket situations, regardless of the situation. I do not like funerals at all. I know you and I have talked about this before. It’s just, like, not really the vibes that I’m going for…” – Lindsie (39:52)
• Pre-Planning as A Kindness:
  The co-host strongly advocates for pre-planning funerals, based on difficult experiences with her own parents’ funerals.
  • “I highly recommend if you have the ability to do it, pre-planning your funeral. Because that is like the worst part of everything… when you’re literally in the thick of emotions and then you have to go decide these things…” (44:14)

Notable Quotes:

• “It sounds kind of sinister to… plan someone’s funeral who’s living, but at the same time, is that not so much better… so, you know all the wishes… and then when something happens, you just follow the plan.” – Lindsie (46:52)
• “To bury someone is so expensive… I told Corey, throw me in the ocean. Let me be shark food!” – Co-host (47:30)

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5. Grief and Sensory Memories

(Begins ~46:04)

• Lindsie observes how her strongest memories of loss are tied to scent, triggering emotional recall of hard events, leading to a discussion about the role of senses in trauma.
  • “I can smell what the air smelled like at that time of the year… every time that time of year comes, I think about that.” – Lindsie (46:10)

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6. Faith, Resilience, and Spiritual Numbness

(Begins ~49:30)

• The episode closes with a devotional reflection for “days you feel spiritually numb,” offering comfort and a reminder of being held in grace, regardless of feelings or circumstances.

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Memorable Moments & Quotes (with Timestamps)

• On shopping frustrations & body comments:
  “My body is what it is…. I don’t really put on weight.” – Lindsie (04:00)
• On societal expectations of women’s bodies:
  “I don’t have a single person in my life that is happy with their body. And that’s crazy to say.” – Co-host (06:18)
• On plastic surgery and identity:
  “It felt like that was the one thing that made me feel like a woman.” – Lindsie (11:31)
• Stay-at-home parent value:
  “Our society and the way that we live was not set up to have two people in a household working outside of the home. It was not.” – Co-host (15:56)
• On her carnivore transformation:
  “I don’t know if I ever will not be on the carnivore diet, like, ever again in my life.” – Lindsie (25:44)
• On funeral planning and saying goodbye:
  “Viewing our loved ones is one of the hardest things we will ever have to do after they’ve passed away… you do it right the first time around, it will make your grief journey later so much easier.” – Elise, Makeup Mortician (36:05)
  • “To bury someone is so expensive… I told Corey, throw me in the ocean. Let me be shark food!” – Co-host (47:30)
• On the enduring power of sensory grief:
  “I can smell what the air smelled like at that time of the year… every time that time of year comes, I think about that.” – Lindsie (46:10)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• 02:30: Discussion begins on body image, shopping, and societal pressure
• 06:43: Lindsie shares a formative, hurtful dressing room comment
• 12:52: Stay-at-home mom value and cost analysis
• 20:31: Transition to carnivore diet discussion (meat, energy, meal stories)
• 34:53: Playing the "makeup mortician" viral video; funeral preferences
• 39:52: Hosts discuss their feelings on funerals, death, and open-caskets
• 44:14: Pre-planning funerals and the emotional toll
• 46:04: Sensory memories and trauma
• 49:30: Closing devotional and reflection on faith

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Final Thoughts

This episode epitomizes the heart and philosophy of The Southern Tea: frank dialogue about challenging topics, delivered with empathy and a dash of Southern wit. Lindsie and her co-host never shy away from the raw, awkward, or taboo—offering listeners validation, practical wisdom, and a reminder that everyone is figuring life out as they go.

Transcript

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

Maybe I'm just like weird. Maybe I'm crunchy. This is the Southern Tea with Lindsay Chrisley. I think it's so funny when you get Christmas cards and all of these people write their children's accomplishments on the back. I don't love them. A southern girl and a boy mom who's trying to navigate life while staying.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

True to her roots.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I am a functioning non functioning human being right now. I join Lindsay each week as she swears to spill the tea, the whole tea, and nothing but the tea that is the tea. Here's Lindsay. Good morning and welcome back to another episode of the Southern Tea, also known as the Show. How are we?

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Good morning. I'm crashing out, but I guess also happy.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I think we're all crashing out. Anybody that has ever worked with me and Kale collectively knows that we plan trips very last minute and have actual no plan until we get where we're going.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Yeah, but it's gonna be great. It always turns out well, you know.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You know, I have been saying for an entire day now, we take and somehow manage to turn it into something good.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

You know, we should come up with something like that for merch.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You know what I mean?

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Outside of that, I need you to know that my house and the amount of packages that have arrived here. I look like a shipping center.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Oh, crap. Do you let them? Okay, genuine question. Do you take them in every delivery or do you wait for them to pile up?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, it depends on what the day looks like. Like if I'm not at home and I come home and Amazon's come FedEx, come UPS, it might be like a legitimate looks like a drop off center. Or sometimes they'll ring the doorbell and I'll just go grab it whenever it comes. If I'm home.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

I don't know the last time somebody rang my doorbell for a package delivery, I think I would actually get mad.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Probably most of the time it's not Amazon most time, it's UPS that does that.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You know, I had a crash out this weekend and ordered a lot of clothes, went in person shopping, which I never do.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

No, you're like an Online girl through and through.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I am an online girly. But you and I were talking about how it's so hard for me to find clothes and to fit. And you had said I'm like on the opposite end of the spectrum as.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Yeah, I mean we can have that conversation. I have no problem. Right. My body size very different than your body size used to be in your body size until I had some medical stuff. And we frequently hear about, you know, being in a bigger body, the difficulty in finding clothes that fit, that are esthetically pleasing, that are accessible, that aren't super expensive, all the things. But there is something. I have a ton of friends that are just naturally slender and sometimes it's. Unless you're in like the sweet spot these days it seems very difficult on other like the polar opposite ends to have any success in like dressing the way that you want to trendy, cute aesthetic like you would think. And people are afraid to talk about this. And that's why I'm doing it because there is something to be said about being on the opposite end and being in a naturally slender body and having the same difficulty or a similar difficulty. It's just viewed very differently because, I mean, we as a society are fat phobic.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So that's, you know, I feel like my situation is definitely genetics play like a huge role for sure. But I also am super active. And so you've got to weigh that in as well. I at my heaviest weight was 127lbs and that was my last weigh in when I had Jackson. And I have some struggles with that. Like, I don't want to be the tiniest person in the room. And I know that you've seen me struggle with that a lot. When people comment and say stuff, it's like, I don't want to hear it. You know, it's just my body is what it is. I eat. I just got finished having a southern girl lunch. I had some chicken salad and some pimento cheese on crackers. I'm good. I eat. It's just a situation that I. I don't really put on weight.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

No, you have a really hard time even with increasing your protein intake because I know you like, we're really looking into like gain lean muscle and upped your protein. But I don't want to say it's not working because that's not fair. I think something that we should all learn is to just not comment on people's bodies. It's your body, it's the shell of yourself.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But I was pleasantly surprised. So Number one, I did two things that I never do. I went shopping in person and I also went into a dressing room. And I can tell you for a fact that I have not been into a dressing room in probably a decade.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

It's crazy. Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And I found a store that carries clothes that fit me really well. And you know that I've always struggled with an outfit wearing me instead of me wearing an outfit.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Yes.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And so I actually felt good in the clothes. I'm not going to say where it's from. I'm interested to hear if anybody knows the store. But I am bringing all of that stuff to Delaware. And I also have a really hard time finding stuff on Amazon that fits because the sizing, like a small. Is it from just things I've tried on is somewhere between like a two and a four. So I regularly order stuff and then have to send it back.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

It's. I think it's a universal experience of being unhappy trying on clothes and things like that. I actually don't have a single person in my life that is happy with their body. And that's crazy to say. And I have a wide variety of different bodied friends and I don't know a single person that has anything nice to say, including myself, about their bodies. And it's so sad. It's so sad.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So I'll tell you a story. And it truly was the last time that I was in a dressing room. I'm not going to give the players that were involved, but I was in Chicago in Nordstrom and went into said dressing room with a bunch of things and hardly nothing fit. And someone said to me, well, you're shopping in a women's section, but you really need to be shopping in girls.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

How old were you grown?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I had a kid.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

That's so sad.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It was not an associate. It was not anybody connected to Nordstrom. But yeah, and I have struggled with it and think about that every single time I go to a store, which is why I started ordering online. I'm like, I don't even want to go into stores. Like, I feel more comfortable trying it on at home.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Okay, we're gonna go deep here. I have a genuine question and you can tell me that you don't want to talk about it and that's okay. Hearing that comment. Is that comment something that was frequently said when you were like growing up? Like because you were so slender? Like, were comments made about your body back then?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I carried a little bit more weight when I was in high school. I think I was 117. Pounds. Whenever I graduated from high school, however, I went through this whole thing growing up in the south and eating fried foods all the time. I felt like when I left to kind of embark on the journey of life by myself, I was like, you know, I'm gonna eat cleaner, and I'm gonna do all these things. So naturally, I dropped some weight whenever I did that. I did not eat a fried food item from the time that I graduated high school until after I had Jackson.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Oh, wow.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah. And it felt like a sense of control for me, you know, feeling like you can't control a lot. I took that as a control, and now I don't really eat fried food either. But I did go through a time of, like, binging fried food. You know, after I had Jackson, I was like, well, you know, if I'm not gaining weight really, anyway, it doesn't really matter.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Yeah. And then you think about your internal health, and you're like, oh, crap. I only asked that because I have another friend that is very small. Like, small framed, just can't gain weight. And it was almost like she was less of a woman. So that's why I was very interested in if that was something that was, you know, not just the only time something like that was said to you. Because, you know, when you think about it, when we were growing up, the aesthetic was this more like, hourglass figure, but flat stomach and, you know, bigger boobs and a nice butt and whatever. And now, I mean, I think that now it's like, everything is frowned upon until you're excessively thin, but then people want to shame you for being excessively thin, so there's just no happy medium. And it's sad, but especially when women go against women. You know, I. I can't.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Size does not determine if you're a woman or if you're a girl. Like, size doesn't make you a woman.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

No, no. And I kind of was wondering, like, okay, so you made the decision to have your boob boobs done. Did that come from, like, not feeling like. Like, you know, I don't want to say.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That was so weird. I always had decent sized boobs. I remember whenever I was estranged from family members, and they would look me up on Facebook because we didn't have any, like, communication or whatever, and they thought that I had had a boob job, like, when I was in college, and it's like, no, it's just called the Bombshell Bra from Victoria Secret. Like, it's not that big of a deal. Right. And titties were Sitting, like, real high up. Okay. I never had, like, a tiny chest. I mean, yeah, I did until I went through puberty. Like.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Yeah. I mean, literally, you know, that's what happens to everybody.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

What do people from the south say? Like, bird chest? I had a bird cast until I was in about ninth grade. And then, I don't know, I must have just, like, gained weight. If I was gaining weight, it must have just been in my boob area. But I had, I would say, decent sized boobs all through school, from ninth grade through college. And then when I breastfed Jackson, I lost all the volume, like, at the top of my boobs.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Okay. Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And so I was like, well. And I mean, it is sad to say, I can't even believe that I'm publicly even acknowledging this, but it felt like that was the one thing that made me feel like a woman.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

I mean, that's a very common feeling.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like I'm tiny, and so maybe I'm not recognized as a woman because of that, but if I have boobs, then I'm a woman.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

I've heard a lot of people in your situation specifically that do go through plastic surgery because of, like, things people have said or innuendos people have made or just because they look at what is viewed as beautiful and they don't feel like that. So they want to get like that. And that's on either end. Right. I've seen people in bigger bodies do the same thing. We're all trying to match this crazy aesthetic that somebody made up. Like somebody decided this is what beauty is, and that's crazy. That is insane.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And who cares what somebody decided? I think that that's the place that I've reached. I understand that I'm talking about it, but it's not to make anybody feel bad or feel like any type of way. I think it's an important conversation to have. But I'm also kind of in this place in my life that I just want everything to be simplified and just be comfortable in my own skin of.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Who I am, which I think a lot of people strive for.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, took the extensions out, not putting them back. I just really want to focus on self care things, inner healing things. Being back in church, which feels so good, might not be for everybody, but something that makes me feel good. I have always felt so much better. Starting my week being in church, feel like it's a good, you know, like, tone setter and it just, it feels good. But you know how we've talked about, like, stay at home moms before this made Me feel so validated. And while it's not relevant to like when I was doing doing it, it's still relevant. So it says stay at home moms are incredibly valuable. Here is the breakdown. Daycare cost avoided 25,000 a year. Home cooked meals 20,000 saved. Nanny services avoided 20,000 saved. Housekeeping 10,000 saved. Personal errand running 5,000 saved. Wardrobe and dry cleaning cost 2,000 saved. Reduced commuting expense 5,000 saved. Total savings of 85,000.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

I think it's way higher, but yes, agreed.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So it says stay at home moms are often overlooked heroes, providing immeasurable love and stability while also being significant financial assets. In 2025, it's clearer than ever. Stay at home moms aren't just present, they they strategically manage resources and prevent significant expenses. This makes their role an incredibly wise investment in a family's present and future well being. Proving that sometimes the smartest financial move isn't a second paycheck but maximum. Maximizing the multifaceted value a stay at home mom brings to the household.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

100,000%.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I could not agree more.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

First of all, it's significantly higher cost. It is. That is, that's probably, honestly if I had to guess what year that was like done in and that's probably not even like a.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

To tell you the truth, I think that, that the 85,000 probably would have been when I was doing it for Jackson before he was in kindergarten.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Yeah, I'm like, that cost is significantly over six figures. There's no way the cost that's saved. And that's why I like anybody that ever asks me any, you know, financial advice. I'm always like, look at the big cost of like what you on. Because it's easy to just look solely at the childcare cost and what you would be taking home. But it's like, what else are you then increasing expenditure on? Are you having to order food more, order out more because there's no time to cook? Are you having to like hire help at home? Whether that be for cleaning, cooking, air, like, whatever that looks like. That's an increased cost directly related to the fact that someone has to work out of the home. Both people have to. And that's why I say like, this is something I struggle with in my own household because I work from home, but I am very strapped to my desk. It's not like the, this like idea of you can go out and about and whatever. Like I am strapped to the desk. There's nothing else getting done while I'm home working. So I might as well be out working in the household circumstances. So everything that has to get done has to wait for a weekend and all. I say this all the time in my house. I say this to everybody. Our society and the way that we live was not set up to have two people in a household working outside of the home. It was not.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I totally agree with that.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

It drives me crazy. I'm very passionate about this topic. It drives me insane.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I mean I was thinking about the other day the amount of hours that I was out of the house, even working from home. But the amount of hours that took me out of the house last week. We've talked about it a million times. Laundry is always an issue. I don't know how it became a bigger issue when I became a single person. I had much less draws to be washing, but somehow it became a bigger issue. Right? Think about all of those things and I can fairly say I'm bitching about them. But think about the people who are strapped at a desk away from the house. In your situation, you're strapped at a desk at your house, still not doing it. Think about all the things they miss all throughout the week and then they have no family time on the weekend because they're trying to catch up on all the that they didn't get to get done.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Yeah. Like my sister in law works hybrid, right? So part of her week is at home, part of her week is in the office when she's at home. And since she had our like our nephew, she has watched him herself at home while she's worked. I have no idea how she does it. I have no idea.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I was talking to a mom at the car wash yesterday actually and she was telling me that she's a work from home mom and she had a 13 month old little boy and he was running amok all over the car wash. Cutest thing. And she said people really don't understand like as moms or like a stay at home dad, you just figure out how to do stuff because that is your circumstance, right? Like you can't explain it, you just figure out how to do it.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

We were just talking about that before this recording. I'm like, I feel like a ton of people our age and like a little bit younger have lost the ability to figure the out and want things wrapped up neatly and handed to them and all the things. And that's frustrating. I don't want to get.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Because there are no problem solving skills like that's what we are facing. People do not understand how to problem solve and now I'm starting to think as I'm talking out loud, is it the new math? Is it the new math that none of us understand?

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

You're like, it started at the new math. That's where the problem started.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

I know a lot of people say like grill season is like in the dead heat of summer. There is nothing better than a little porch hang with your grill going. I found the best salmon hack so I need to do a video for that. Literally had the best salmon of my life last night at home and that's a feat for sure. And I also think it's hilarious that you find it to be hilarious that I am on a carnivore diet.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Okay, so a couple things here. You said nothing's better than that. I will. I will one up you and tell you that's. You know what's better than that? Sitting in your pool on a hot day in a float, eating whatever is being brought to you.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That, like fruit?

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

No. Like, I'm talking. You know my rule. Once I'm greasy, I'm not getting out of the pool till I'm done. So. So, like, if it's. If I'm still supposed to be in the pool and it's dinner time, like, you're bringing me the grilled food, and I have these side tables at my pool that connect, and I go and I eat whatever, whether it was like, hamburgers, hot dogs, like skewers, whatever, in the comfort of my float, in my pool, that is truly perfection for me. Back to the carnivore diet. I need to know more about this, because the way that I could not eat meat every day of my life, I don't know what I would do. So I need to know, like, what are the parameters for this? Like, what can you eat? What can't you eat?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I watched a video, actually, of. It was basically like, we as humans were created to eat meat. And it goes into, like, this whole thing about how we were never intended to eat vegetables. And then, like, at some point, we. We got there and we're now vegetable eaters. I don't care what other people do. I love meat so much. And it did take a little bit of time to, like, transition, to basically just be eating meat. But once you get there, I feel like, number one, that is all you crave. Like, you don't crave anything outside of that. And number two, I feel like it is the healthiest thing, like, if you look up and do research on vegetables and stuff like that, they weren't really intended to. To be consumed in the way that we consume them. So, yes, for most lunches, every day I get the force of nature meat. I think it has liver and heart in it. Nobody come for me. I thought I would never do this either. Did I tell you the story about how I even got on that meat?

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Absolutely did not.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, so I know you're already disgusted, but don't really care. This meat started being carried. It used to be, like, at Sprouts and Whole Foods. Now they have it at our local Publix, but it. It flies off the shelf. It is like a blend of ground beef Heart and liver. So one night, David and I decided that we were gonna go out and have way too many white claws.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Okay?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And we were like, okay, well, we're kind of hungry when we get back to his house. And I'm like, okay, well, we could order a pizza. But I really just, like, don't feel like doing that because I'm just not on this bread kick. So we need to eat some kind of meat. What do you have here? I would prefer to have a burger with pimento cheese and pepper jelly on it. Back up a week prior to that, he was like, oh, I eat this meat that has liver and heart in it. And I'm like, okay, never feed me that. So he tells me in this moment with way too many white claws that he has ground beef. And I'm like, okay, perfect. Like, I can have this burger. He cooks it, and I'm like, that is the best burger that I've ever had in my life. He never tells me anything until it gets time to go to bed. And he was like, I know that you told me to never feed you that, but that's the only meat that I had. And you said it was the best burger. So now, like, you're on it. I thought I was gonna lose my mind. I'm like, heart and liver, like, what? So now I am also on that meat. I think it's called force of nature, I think. And I just ate a pound of that meat with the Siete taco seasoning pack. I only use, like, a third of the pack of the seasoning. Sometimes I use mild. Sometimes I use spicy. Today it was spicy. And then I put a thing of mash avocado in it, and that was my lunch.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

So that's what you were eating while I was eating my lunch?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yes. I mean, your lunch did look good, but, like, I wouldn't eat it.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

What does that even mean?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

What do you mean, what does it mean?

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Like, why wouldn't you eat it? Because you're on the carnivore diet. But if you weren't on the carnivore diet, you would eat it.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I don't know if I ever will not be on the carnivore diet, like, ever again in my life.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

I need to know, like, what are the health benefits supposedly? And, like, what? I need to know the alleged health benefits, and I need to know how you're physically feeling on it.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I feel the most energized when I strictly just stick to carnivore.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Okay? I mean, it's. It probably has to do with like, your iron levels and like hemoglobin and all those things.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I mean, you know, I'm not a doctor and I'm also not a dietitian, so no one listened to me. If you want to do it, do it. And if you don't, then just do whatever you're doing. I don't really know what the actual health benefits are. I will ask the person that I learned about Carnivore from and I will give you next week the alleged health benefits of Carnivore.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Do you like. I need to know what other types of like, recipes. Well, okay, let's.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

First of all, you need recipes. There are. That's the thing. That's why it's so easy and it's so good. Because there aren't really recipes. It's like, okay, I had this for lunch. I had a pound of meat for lunch. And a pound of meat is like a lot. Okay. For dinner tonight because Jackson's home, he wants to have salmon or steak every night. So he's kind of like making that shift. But I give him a well balanced meal. So before anybody says, I've got my kid on carnivore, I do not. He also is a big meat and fish eater. So last night he had salmon and some French green beans, a yogurt and some fruit. He pretty much ate all of his meat and there was like, other stuff left. So maybe he is turning carnivore by his own accord or on his own accord. Last night we had a steak, a porterhouse steak, which I am not a fan of. Porterhouse steaks like that just should never be bought in this house again. And I made that clear. I am a big ribeye girly. And that's just. We just use Tony catcher Cajun seasoning, I think, and then butter and melted butter to dip, which is so good because melted butter is like a big staple, I think, in like carnivore and keto. So we did that. Tonight it's going to be salmon. And because no porterhouse steaks will be purchased, it will be a ribeye.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Well, so I guess that's my question. So, like, fish, like salmon is not meat.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, in my mind it is.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Okay, so you're allowed to eat fish.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It's like a protein.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Yeah, but you're. So you're allowed to eat fish or is it only salmon?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, I mean, I don't know. I'm not telling everybody what like the actual carnivore is. I'm just telling you. My version is I eat Fish and fish and meat. Fish and meat. Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Okay. I mean, that's better than just like, straight up meat.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, sometimes we'll have a steak, like a ribeye and then some, like, lobster tails or a crab cake.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

I could do that. Okay. But, like, do you miss salad?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Oh, my God.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And isn't that crazy because I used to have a salad with every meal.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Yes. Me and you. That was our thing. We had salad for.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

We. We broke up. I'm not doing salads anymore. The amount of sugars and stuff that are in the dressings and in the toppings and the lettuce that I was eating.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

What about soup?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I'm off soup, too.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Oh, shit. What are you going to do for fall? What the hell does that look like for you for crock pots?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, well, I will tell you. So this coming weekend is going to be my first cabin weekend of fall, which I'm so excited about. College football kicks off. So excited. And I have made my list for the cabin. I was making it last night. Actually, I wasn't making it. Somebody else was making it. But my weekend list is ground beef, taco seasoning, lobster steak, avocado packs, crock pot, chili, gatorade, spices, white claws, more white claws, eggs, bacon, alani, which we know I said I was off the alani, but it's which Bruce. Which is brew season, so nobody say anything to me about it. Cream and coffee.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Okay, but here's where my beef is gonna lie with you. If you can drink an alani, you can make a soup.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

What do you mean? Like, making chili?

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

That's not soup, that's chili. That still involves meat.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, I know, because I also typically, even before how I'm eating now, and truly, I think I've been eating like this for, like, the last seven months.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Yeah, you have, right? Yeah. Actually.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Actually, in all fairness, it was eight months yesterday. But yes, I've been eating like that. I am a bigger advocate for, like, a heartier soup than I am. Like, if I've got to do a lot of spoon work to get, like, a little broth, count me out.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

I do like heartier soup, too, but I'm talking, like, loaded baked potato.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I haven't had a potato.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

And. Which is crazy. That used to be your go to.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I know. And you know, when I first got on this diet, I'm trying to be so careful. When I first got on it, I used to eat a lot of baked potatoes. Like, I would cut a potato in half and, like, have a half of one, and then. Do you Ever like start eating something and you just eat it so, so much because you're on that kick and you eat it to the point that you hate it.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Well, because you have adhd. That's very common for people with adhd. It's like you hyper fixate, including on food, and then all of a sudden the hyper fixation dies. And a lot of people talk about it being like mid bite and then they don't touch it again for like a very long time.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That happened to me with a potato like six and a half months ago.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

You were like mid eating it and was like, you know what, this sucks.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah. I was like, okay, count me out. Also, if I'm going to eat a potato, like a baked potato, I'm also going to eat the skin.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

You know, I'm hit or miss. I am hit or miss. There are times where I will eat it, there are times when I will not. But you were the one who introduced me to the baked potato situation. And my father in law ended up making like buffalo chicken stuffed sweet potatoes. It was so good. It was so good. And then sometimes when I'm hungry and I just don't know what I want, I'll get a loaded baked potato from Wendy's.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay. I will tell you. And I told it. I told David that like crock pots are a non negotiable in the fall.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Yeah. So like y' all are trying to work that out of how this is gonna fit your diet.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah. Because this could be a potential hazard. Crock pots are, are a must in the fall and I need to make like appetizers. But I'm trying to find things that I can put in the crock pot that would pretty much satisfy like the carnivore, but also give me like a little something extra. You know, I also cut cheese completely out. So that's really problematic when it comes to crock pots stuff because there's a lot of cheese requirement.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Yeah, there are. So like, have you ever thought about trying to do like a different kind of cheese? Like, you know how they have like. I think it's vegan cheese.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You know what, I'm just not on the vegan. I'm just gonna go for the, the full blown thing. You know, I feel like if you.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Were to eat cheese now, it might be a problem.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You know, I think it probably would.

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

Speaking of death, since we talk a lot about death on here, for whatever reason, have you seen that video of the makeup mortician?

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

No?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, can we play it? Yes, because I want to get your thoughts.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

I'm so scared.

[Elise (Makeup Mortician)]

Buried in a casket or do I want to be cremated? Hi, my name is Elise. I am the makeup mortician where I talk about beauty outfits and respectfully educate on the funeral industry. Let's do my makeup while I talk about my personal burial wishes. So there are more burial options besides just cremation and traditional burial in a casket. There's Aquamation, there's human composting, there's green burial, and there's actually a mix between traditional burial and cremation where your body is present in a casket at the funeral followed by cremation. And for me, I would like a traditional casketed funeral followed by burial at the cemetery. I'd be fine with like an in ground burial with like a headstone. Kind of like what we think of where they put the casket in the ground. But I actually kind of want to be buried in a mausoleum. A mausoleum is an above ground structure that caskets actually go into. There are like public mausoleums where there might be, you know, a hundred spaces for caskets to go into them. Or there's private mausoleums as well. Private ones can be big, almost like a house you walk into. They're really expensive. They're like a million dollars plus. Or there's like mini mausoleums and they just go over top of a few burial pots can fit like two caskets in there. And I think that's what I'm going for. I talk about what I want the actual funeral to look like in just a minute. In case you're wondering why I'm so adamant at having My body present at the funeral. I believe so strongly in a final viewing. Of course, I've learned psychologically, like through school, why it's important. But then in my practice, I have seen in real time what a viewing can do for facilitating the grief journey. Know that viewing our loved ones is one of the hardest things we will ever have to do after they've passed away. Part of the reason why that is so difficult is because we are facing the grief. We are addressing the grief, we are moving through the grief. Which, let me tell you what, right now does not feel good. You do it right the first time around, it will make your grief journey later so much easier and healthier. Just an FYI, there are options for a viewing even if you want to be cremated. If you want a video on those options for viewing with cremation, let me know in the comments. But anyways, back to my own funeral. So I would like my casketed body with a service at my church. I am a strong Christian. I want the best music. I am talking like, Phil Wickham, Brandon Lake. But here's the key. After the burial at the cemetery, I won a huge party. I'm talking like an event space, Margaritas, amazing food, and honestly, probably a live band. Of course, I do want the traditional church service. Then I really do want, like, that celebration of my life. Because, yes, there's a time to grieve, but then there's also a time to celebrate all of the many things that I did on this earth. And yes, absolutely, you can have both. It's your funeral. Oh, and as far as casket goes, more partial to the wood caskets. Like, I love cedar, I love cherry. But, like, also, I can't help but think about how aesthetic it would be to have, like, a midnight blue metal casket, velvet interior, stunning. What details did I miss?

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Why are you looking like that? Okay, number one, when I saw the makeup mortician for the first time, you know who I thought about? Who I thought of the stepmom on my girl. Remember how she did, like, makeup for the funeral stuff? Okay, number one, could you imagine just doing makeup on a dead person?

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

I. You know what? It actually wouldn't bother me. I did actually inquire about that when I was in esthetician. What you wanted to do that I was interested. I wanted to at least learn about it. But I've had a lot of people die since I was a kid and, like, have seen a lot of dead bodies, especially ones that have been done well, but also done really bad. Like, I went To a funeral when I was probably one of the funerals, I actually went to two in one day when I was 10. Viewings. Two in one night. And we went. And the. It was a young person that had passed away and they had blood start coming out of their nose. Oh. So that was traumatic as. But, like, just people that just didn't look the best. And I was like, oh, like, I noticed. I've seen enough dead bodies to notice the difference between, like, ones that are done well and ones that are not. So when I went to esthetician school and was doing my makeup certification classes first, I was like, I'm intrigued. Like, what would that process look like? And it takes a lot. It is not like doing regular makeup on, like, a living individual. They need a lot of stuff.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That's so crazy. But I am not. I am not for open casket situations, regardless of the situation.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, I do not like funerals at all. I know you and I have talked about this before. It's just, like, not really the vibes that I'm going for. It's like, I'm not sure that walking into a funeral home and funeral homes, to me, have, like, a very distinct smell. And I couldn't figure out what the distinct smell was from my papa's funeral, But Will had bought me flowers one year, and I think it's peace lilies.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

It is.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Is that what it smells like?

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Yeah, it's that exact smell.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So I had had those flowers in my kitchen, and I kept, like, feeling like it smelled like my papa, but I didn't realize that the smell was peace lilies. So now, like, I don't want peace lilies in anything.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Yeah, you could get them without. I refuse to let a single damn peace lily near my dad when he died because he had an open casket situation. He had, like, the night before for, like, multiple hours. And then we did it again the morning of. And then we did his service right there. Like, in the funeral home. We did the service because he was not. He was like a spiritual man, not religious man, if that made sense.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, Dad's like that.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Yeah. So we did that. But I definitely think I get what she's saying about the psychological piece of seeing to help the grief process. Because I remember I was hours away when my dad passed away. And I literally said, do, like, he needs to be there when I get home. I need to see him. Which sounds psychotic, but I was in such denial that, like, everybody else had it wrong. Did not matter what was being told to me. It was just not Like, I consciously knew. And I can still remember the feeling where I was like, no, this is wrong. And then I saw him and, like, highly don't recommend doing that. Leave it till they're at the funeral home and look better. And then I saw him and then it read like I was immediately snapped out of the denial.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Any open casket situation that I have ever been to, nobody has looked like what they looked like prior to that. And so I think that's a little bit traumatizing. But I did talk to my therapist about this and, like, why I absolutely, like, hate funerals. Don't really love weddings. Like, it's. It's weird, obviously, like, psychologically something. And she told me she was like, well, it's possible that it's just like other trauma playing into that and the way I've handled other situations, it's like I can easily cut off stuff and emotions and it's like, okay, as long as it's over there, I don't have to deal with it. And the thoughts of seeing somebody just like, in a different way, laying there and looking very different than what they looked like prior to that, I feel like does not help grieving process for me. But I would be interested to know if other people think that it does help facilitate the grief journey.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

I would say you also have to. Like, this sounds so fucked up, but, like, I knew where I wanted my dad to be buried from because we had been to so many different viewings at so many different funeral homes that I was like, I know this one does good work. Like, I hate to say it like that, but that was something that was important to me, was that I wanted him to look like how he was, you know, when he was alive. And he did, like, so that was super. I was super thankful for that. But if he didn't, that would have been, like, very traumatizing.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

What's also crazy, and I wonder if this happens in other people's families too. Every person that I know that has ever had a viewing or a funeral or whatever, it has always gone through the same funeral home from where we're from. So just like, entering that place, knowing it's another death gives me the creeps, like, spine crawls.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

I remember right after my dad died, we had, like, we planned my mom's funeral. So we went to the funeral home that, like, we used for my dad and other family members had been through there. So we went there. It was the first time I was going for not a viewing. And it was the weirdest. You, like, go into an office and you're sitting at a conference table and you're picking out all the things and doing whatever. I highly recommend if you have the ability to do it pre planning your funeral. Because that is like the worst part of everything. Like when you're literally in the thick of emotions and then you have to go decide these things, it's like, this is the last thing I want to be doing. And then speaking to that point where she said the whole big after party thing, the last thing that I wanted to do was have an after party, like for my dad, my. His mother forced us to have one, which whatever. So we did. And when I tell you that the adrenaline that you're running off of for days, sometimes a week or more, from the time that that person passed away to the time that the funeral has ended and whatever, it was completely drained out of me. I was physically falling asleep at this after party. Like I felt so sick. I went home and I slept for literally 13 hours.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I don't really remember that much from my papa's funeral, but I also was six months pregnant. So I don't know if I ever told you that. The day, the day that he passed away was the same day I found out that Jackson was a boy. And so I think there was just like a lot of emotions that were going on. It's almost like a block, like it happened. And I know that I was there and I know that I spoke and those things. And I remember I rode back to my parents lake house with Will's parents and we did like some type of celebration and lunch and whatever. But outside of that, I remember absolutely nothing.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

I mean, I think it's probably your mind's way of protecting you from like really painful memories for sure.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And I remember the smell. But isn't that so weird? My first adverse childhood experience that I can remember. And I know you and I have talked about this before. I can smell what the air smelled like at that time of the year. Like every time that time of the year comes, I think about that.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Yeah. Like you smell it. Yeah. That makes.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But I wonder if there's something to that. Like is smell like my strongest sense maybe.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Or it could be. I mean I definitely will get like triggered by like certain scents and stuff like that depending on what that memory was. But it could be for you just isn't that crazy?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I would love to know people who are listening to this. Like if you think it's weird to kind of like pre plan your funeral, it's the same thing that you and I have talked about before regarding, like, prenups and stuff. Very different, but similar. Like, doing all of that before you make it to an engagement so you can get all that stuff out of the way ahead of time. It sounds kind of sinister to, like, plan someone's funeral who's living, but at the same time, is that not so much better to go ahead and do it so, you know, all the wishes and stuff while that person is alive. And it's planned, and then when something happens, you just follow the plan.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

It. I. I bet I literally wish I didn't really give an option. I said, this is what we're gonna do. Because I'm not doing this again. Because I'm like, you know, I'm in a situation where I have a sibling, but the relationship is what the relationship is. So it's. It. It was on me the first time, and it will be on me the second time. And I just don't. I told Corey, throw me in the ocean. Let me be shark food. Like, it's not worth the money. Like, to bury someone is so expensive. I don't. I don't like six people to carry my casket, so that's fine.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, I'm also just, like, such a strange thing, like picking the pallbeers or whatever they're called.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Like, what?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, I think death in general to me is just, like, such a weird thing. And then I had this thought yesterday when I was in Pilates because I was in, like, one of these, like, Zen classes. It was like, more like yoga. So the music was just, like, very, like, peaceful and all these things. Please tell me why I was having thoughts. Oh, well, if I died and David was still living, would I know if he was dating someone, like, from death?

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

Like, I don't know, because I just know that they say that they're always watching and whatever. And I remember I have really sick sense of humor. So there was, like, my instant response to that when someone was, like, trying to help me through the grief process was that was more painful than the dying. I was like, even in the shower, like, that was literally where I was like, they can see you. Where. Because I have a lot of dead people.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So that's like, I don't know that I want someone to see me there.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

No, I was just like, no, I'm good. I don't. I'm good. It's okay. Like, I don't. I can't think of it that way. It's like people who tell people to. Like, when you're public speaking, just think of everyone naked. No. That would actually be horrific for me. So I'm not gonna do that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

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[Co-host (possibly a close friend or colleague of Lindsay)]

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