Bird Theory & Thanksgiving Dinner Prep

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Podcast Summary

The Southern Tea

Host: Lindsie Chrisley
Episode: Bird Theory & Thanksgiving Dinner Prep
Date: November 19, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Southern Tea brings Lindsie Chrisley and her cohost Kristen together for a lively, candid discussion about prepping for Thanksgiving, family routines post-divorce, viral internet trends like “bird theory,” parenting philosophies, the challenges of co-parenting, and memorable internet drama. The episode balances warm regional humor with real talk on relationships, boundaries, personal organization, and self-care, all while offering classic Southern perspective on the chaos of the holidays.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Thanksgiving Dinner Prep & Holiday Hosting

[01:57 - 13:45]

• Kristen is unexpectedly hosting 16 people for Thanksgiving and shares the stress of planning a large gathering.
• Lindsie details her own Thanksgiving menu—emphasizing “Southern style” green beans and skipping the green bean casserole, much to Kristen’s mock-horror.
  • “You lost me and everybody else who makes green bean casserole lost me at the cream of mushroom.” – Lindsie, [10:27]
• Discussions about homemade vs. store-bought food, minimizing food waste, and creative ways to make holidays less stressful for small families (like ordering meat from a local restaurant).
• Kristen reveals her tradition of themed meals for each holiday—pasta bar on Christmas Eve, dips-only night for New Year’s Eve, and prime rib for Christmas and New Year’s Day.
  • “I always do my pasta bar situation... We just have ourselves a time.” – Kristen, [24:34]

2. Parenting, Co-Parenting, and Busy Weekends

[02:25 - 06:40]

• Lindsie recaps a packed weekend with her son Jackson, blending sporting events, church, and outings, illustrating the challenge of fitting important activities into limited custody time.
• Discusses co-parenting dynamics and the slight friction between “activity parent” and “chill-at-home parent.”
  • “I only get him 50 of the weekends and so I love to like book activities and events and Will is definitely the dad that’s like, figure out how to entertain yourself at home.” – Lindsie, [03:26]
• She also navigates the “robbery” of personal time when sports take up critical custody days but emphasizes follow-through and commitment for kids in extracurriculars.

3. Texting Etiquette & Sleep Preferences

[06:40 - 08:28]

• The duo compare strange text hours: 2:18 AM texts from Kristen, 5:00 AM from Lindsie’s ex.
• Kristen confidently texts at weird hours, knowing Lindsie’s phone is set to Do Not Disturb.

4. The Realities of Daily Chaos & Self-care

[12:04 - 22:47]

• Lindsie’s “most treacherous day” includes school emergencies (Jackson getting stitches), home maintenance fiascos, a failed lunch outing, a dirty car immediately after a carwash, and broken washers.
• Self-care ideas are floated: booking classes, wanting to color her hair, deep clean her closet, and general home organization plans for the new year.
  • “Everyone thinking that, like, I am this, you know, like, just most organized person in the world... actually I have zero sense of organization whatsoever. Stuff lays around my house at all times. Like, it’s organized chaos, but it’s chaos nonetheless.” – Lindsie, [21:22]

5. Teaching Kids Financial Responsibility: Viral Facebook Post

[25:58 - 31:53]

• The viral post about charging adult children rent but secretly saving that money for them sparks debate.
• Both agree the idea is positive if parents can manage it and emphasize teaching financial literacy early—not just at 18.
  • “I can’t get behind [charging kids rent just because]... but for saving purposes and teaching them how to save money... I think that is phenomenal.” – Lindsie, [30:43]
• They discuss the variance in approaches to supporting young adults depending on family circumstances and beliefs.

6. The Angel Tree TikTok Drama

[34:10 - 41:18]

• Viral TikTok controversy: a woman records herself buying generic, non-wishlist items for Angel Tree kids, sticking to a $30 budget, and faces massive backlash for insensitivity and turning charity into “content.”
• Kristen’s strong stance: “If you are doing a good deed and you’re an ugly person, don’t do it... You're clearly using it for content.” [38:12]
• Both stress respecting kids’ wishes and suggest collaborating with friends to fulfill elaborate wishlists if needed.

7. Relationship Dramas: Venmo, Trust, and Red Flags

[41:18 - 54:39]

• News story: a girlfriend attacked her boyfriend over a $5 payment to another woman (via a money app), leading to musings on trust, suspicion, and digital snooping.
• Lindsie shares cautionary tales of discovering infidelity clues through Venmo, Facebook photos, and being lied to about whereabouts.
  • “It just caused me to kind of start mentally spiraling, because I feel like once you see one thing, you can’t unsee it.” – Lindsie, [50:35]
• Discussion about “love bombing” and men using grand gestures to cover questionable behavior.
  • “If they have to love bomb you, there’s already something wrong.” – Kristen, [53:04]

8. The Bird Theory Relationship Test

[54:36 - 66:13]

• Introduction to “bird theory” (inspired by Dr. John Gottman): how couples respond to small moments (e.g., “I saw a bird today”) predicts relationship quality.
• Both hosts experiment by calling their partners/exes; results are hilarious and telling.
  • "He's like, like, outside?...That's why we're no longer married." – Lindsie, [66:08]
• Reflection: micro-connections matter more than grand gestures; little daily moments build true intimacy.

9. Enjoying Singleness & “Me Time”

[66:15 - 72:29]

• Lindsie admits to loving single life, prioritizing her own routine, and enjoying time with her son solo.
• Kristen shares her mom is thriving with a low-maintenance “companion.”
  • “There is nothing nicer than being able to get in a bath leisurely whenever you want to, ...to eat dinner when you want to, to watch whatever show you want to watch, ...not feel like you’re sharing all those parts of yourself and time.” – Lindsie, [68:04]
• Discussion of the societal pressure to couple up and how healing from past relationships shifts perspectives.

10. Internet “Weekly Tea”: Micro Penis As Crime Evidence

[74:48 - 82:23]

• Recap of trending tabloid news: The Golden State Killer was allegedly identified in part by testimony about an extremely small penis, now a point of pop culture discussion, with Hitler now rumored to have “one ball and micro penis.”
• Kristen: “The micro penis is really taking over. And, you know, it really is tracking to me, the people they’re attaching one to.” [77:50]
• Amusement and light mockery about the deeper psychological implications and pop forensics.

11. Weekly Devotional

[73:38 - 74:48]

• Lindsie shares inspiration from Psalm 46:10: Trusting in God’s timing and not forcing outcomes.
• Other faith notes: prioritize consistent commitments like church in the family routine, paralleling that with sports and other structured activities for kids.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Green Bean Casserole:
  • “You lost me and everybody else who makes green bean casserole lost me at the cream of mushroom.” – Lindsie, [10:27]
• On Single Life:
  • “There is nothing nicer than being able to get in a bath leisurely whenever you want to, ...not feel like you’re sharing all those parts of yourself and time.” – Lindsie, [68:04]
• On the Viral Angel Tree Video:
  • “If you are doing a good deed and you’re an ugly person, don’t do it.” – Kristen, [38:12]
• About “Bird Theory” Experiments:
  • Kristen’s husband: “What kind of bird was it?” Kristen: “It was a cardinal.” Him: “That’s nothing new for around here.” [63:38]
  • Lindsie’s ex-husband (deadpan): “Cool, man.” [65:00]
• On Relationship Red Flags:
  • “If they have to love bomb you, there’s already something wrong.” – Kristen, [53:04]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Thanksgiving/Holiday Menu Deep Dive: [08:28 – 13:45]
• Teaching Financial Responsibility to Kids: [25:58 – 31:53]
• Angel Tree TikTok Drama: [34:10 – 41:18]
• Relationship Red Flags and Venmo-ing: [41:18 – 54:39]
• Bird Theory Relationship Test: [54:36 – 66:13]
• Singleness, ‘Me Time’, and Dating Apps: [66:15 – 73:38]
• Pop Culture: Micro Penis News: [74:48 – 82:23]
• Weekly Devotional: [73:38 – 74:48]

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Tone & Style

• Conversational, Southern, down-to-earth, sprinkled with warm humor and self-deprecation.
• Lindsie is open and unfiltered about her life, relationships, and family.
• Kristen offers grounded, often witty counterpoints, blending practical advice with honest reactions.

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Takeaways for Listeners

• Southern family life around the holidays is as chaotic as it is heartfelt, and both hosts accentuate the value of tradition as well as flexibility.
• The right way to support kids—whether through financial lessons or prioritizing their desires at the holidays—comes down to honest effort, respect, and intentional parenting.
• In relationships, tiny moments of engagement (“bird theory”) often matter more than grand gestures, and red flags are usually present in hindsight.
• Online drama can be both an ethical minefield and a source of entertainment—but empathy and respect should prevail.
• Whether married, coupled, or single, prioritizing self-care and boundaries is a consistent theme throughout the episode.

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This episode is packed with both relatable life wisdom and laugh-out-loud moments—perfect for listeners seeking solidarity, perspective, and a dose of Southern sass heading into the holidays.

Transcript

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

Maybe I'm just like weird. Maybe I'm crunchy. This is the Southern Tea with Lindsay Chrisley. I think it's so funny when you get Christmas cards and all of these people write their children's accomplishments on the back. I don't love them. Southern girl and a boy mom who's trying to navigate life while staying true to her roots. I am a functioning non functioning human being right now. Join Lindsay each week as she swears to spill the tea, the whole tea.

[Kristen]

And nothing but the tea.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That is the tea. Here's Lindsay. Good morning and welcome back to another episode of the Southern Tea. How are we doing this week?

[Kristen]

Kristen hello Lindsay Chrisley. I am doing fantastic. It's the week before Thanksgiving. I'm hosting and I'm just running through my head of like what hosting for 16 people looks like unexpectedly.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I love that for you. I am still currently recovering from my weekend of fun with Jackson and I feel like I'm not going to recover until this coming weekend.

[Kristen]

Please give me the rundown of like all the things that you did.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So on Friday we watched the Clemson game. It was a 7:30 game and we were rallying in this house. I was actually watching a tick tock the other day and people were arguing about how to say Louisville and I don't know how like the locals say it but but it seems like it was like Louisville.

[Kristen]

Okay. So I grew up thinking it was Louisville. Okay, it's not. Then I thought it was Louisville.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Mm.

[Kristen]

Now I'm hearing a different variation from you of what the locals call it and I would love someone to correct us and tell us what it is.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I mean, I don't know. I just feel like in my house it's always going to be Louisville and that's just what it is. But Clemson did end up beating them by one, so. So we love that for us. Definitely helped out Georgia Tech as well when it comes to the acc. So we love that. We got to bed late, pretty late on Friday. On Saturday. What did we do on Saturday? Oh, we went to basketball practice and then Jackson wanted to watch the Georgia game. So we went to like a local sports place and got some food and watched the game, came home, went to bed decently early, Woke up at 6:30 or 7:00 clock on Sunday morning, rolled out the door at 8, went to church, left from church and went to the Falcons Panthers game and then did not get home until almost 8:00 clock that night. So it was a very, very long day. But I absolutely love taking him to do stuff. And it's kind of like I don't want to say an issue that Will and I have with each other, but I am definitely like, I only get him 50 of the weekends and so I love to like book activities and events and Will is definitely the dad that's like, figure out how to entertain yourself at home.

[Kristen]

I've always wondered like how you determine, right? Because I'm sure you want like chill time, but then you feel like you're making having to make up time that you're missing. So like finding that balance probably takes some time and has to be hard.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Sometimes it is. And I mean normally this time of year I feel like is just so busy for everyone and then for whatever reason I decide that I just need to stack events like on top of an already busy season. But I also fight with basketball season too. So once he's in season playing games, it basically takes our Saturdays. So I try to do stuff around the times of like when school's out and then leading up to basketball season.

[Kristen]

Okay, bear with me when I ask this question because it probably sounds so tone deaf and stupid when you're doing 5050 in whatever regard you do it in. Doesn't matter if it's like week on, week off, whatever the schedule is. As a parent, obviously sports are important, but like, do you ever feel like that is taking time of yours away?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yes, you do somewhat feel a little bit of I guess a robbery. But at the same time, if it's something that they love and they have, like, committed to that, then I feel like it's super important from a parenting standpoint to make them follow through with your commitment. It just is what it is. Like, you figure out how to work around it. I absolutely hate the midday games on Saturday because it really messes up your day. Like, he was having 4 o' clock practice on Saturdays, but now that season's about to start. Practices are only on Mondays now, which is really nice because it's after school. We probably wouldn't have really been doing anything anyway. But Saturday at 4 o', clock, I have an almost teenager on my hands. So he sometimes sleeps until 11:30. Well, by the time he gets up, has breakfast, and, you know, diddle dawdles around the house, then it's time to go to practice and then it's time for dinner.

[Kristen]

So who's this? Who was the sleeper between you and Will? Like, who could sleep that late? Because I know, like, it has to be the right setup for you to be able to do it. So is Will the sleeper?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Will was not the sleeper. Will is the early riser. I'm pretty sure that he text me sometime around the 5 o' clock hour this morning. And I woke up and was like, okay, you're a psychopath and this is why we're divorced.

[Kristen]

I remember the other day I texted you at, I think it was 2 in the morning. I think it was like 2:18 to be exact. And you literally texted me the next morning. Didn't address what I said first. You said 2:18am is crazy. And I was like, well, I fell asleep at 7:30.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Do people, like not look at the time when they're sending text messages and be like, okay, I'm gonna be socially acceptable when I respond to this. So I'm not gonna respond at like 2:18 or 5:00am for me.

[Kristen]

No, because I know your phone's on DND. I can see it, so I know it's not going to disturb you.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah. It just causes me a great deal of alarm to even fathom who could be up at 2:18 and also 5:00am Like, I'm really hung up on it.

[Kristen]

I do both of those. So I'm pretty sure I sent Kale a text today at 5something this morning. Actually, let's confirm. I'll tell you right now it was, to be exact, 5:20am yeah, anybody who.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Thinks that they're texting me at that time, that's perfectly fine. I'm Just never getting it. And until the next day.

[Kristen]

Yeah, I didn't. I didn't expect a response. That was in response to something she sent me at 10pm but I was already a sleepy girl.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You were a sleepy girly? Yeah. So we are trying to gear up in this house for Thanksgiving, and then I feel like there's, like, not a lot of time. It's like they're off school for a week. They have two weekends, and then go back to school for a short period of time, and then they're out for Christmas. And I'm trying to figure out, like, what all I'm cooking. You and I talked about this yesterday, and I thought it was going to be, like, small. And then I just, like, kept saying recipes.

[Kristen]

Yes, you did. You just kept naming off things. And I was like, okay, so we are having all of Thanksgiving. It's not small.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah. So what I said was, on my menu is green beans, but, like, the southern style green beans. You know the one where you put, like, oil in it and then you let it, like, bowl down.

[Kristen]

What?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You put, like, all in your green beans and then you let it bowl down.

[Kristen]

So, like, sauteing them kind of.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And they're really good. Like, we do the French style green beans.

[Kristen]

Yes.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

In this house. And it's so good. I cannot get behind. I was arguing with somebody yesterday, actually, about green bean casserole, and I just. I don't understand the thrill of the green bean casserole. There's, like, so much going on that's unnecessarily going on.

[Kristen]

I love green bean casserole, but I am also a casserole connoisseur. So, like, I would eat casserole every day if I could. I don't know, it's something, like, comforting. It's savory. Like, I add a little bit of extra soy sauce in my green bean casserole. It makes it more savory. I do like more on, like, the more of the French fried onions that I need to. I make it, like, thicker. I don't like watery green bean casserole. It freaks me out.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, you. You lost me and everybody else who makes green bean casserole lost me at the cream of mushroom.

[Kristen]

Yeah, there's cream of mushroom soup in it.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, anything that jiggles like that that's coming out of a can is just like, no for me. So I'm doing green beans. I am doing deviled eggs, and I'm definitely more on the simpler side of deviled eggs. Kristen was telling me that she Likes a lot of mustard in her deviled eggs. I don't put mustard in my deviled eggs. I also don't put relish in my deviled eggs either. Mayo and some salt and pepper and a little bit of vinegar to give it that bite.

[Kristen]

Okay, so you do vinegar instead of mustard?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, I'm just. I'm not a huge fan of mustard, and I don't think that it makes them look as pretty, like, with the color of mustard. So I feel like you can get the same.

[Kristen]

It depends what mustard you're using, though.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I mean, we can get into the conversation all day long. We're just not. I'm also going to make. Don't you call it stuffing?

[Kristen]

Yeah. And you said dressing, but I knew what you meant.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah. I'm going to do some cornbread dressing. I'm going to do macaroni and cheese. I am actually going to order from a local barbecue place. I do not want to waste a bunch of food, but I feel like I'm making a lot. But the meat. Like, to make meat for two people, I feel like, is really hard. So I'm gonna do, like, maybe chicken or something from our local barbecue place.

[Kristen]

I think that's really smart. I like. I feel like when I've done a smaller Thanksgiving, we've done things where we've gotten just like, turkey breast and that's it. Instead of, like, a big turkey that we're not gonna eat. Last year, we said suck the turkey and we did prime rib.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I could kind of get behind that. I am literally drinking a Frappuccino because. Let me back up for a second and get off of Thanksgiving. So yesterday was the most treacherous day of my life as of recent. Not, like, in my whole life, but, like, recently. Yesterday was absolutely atrocious.

[Kristen]

So let's break it down.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I was talking to Kale about what happened to Jackson's lip, and also me on coffee combos. By 10am sharp, I had an emergency call from the school that I needed to come and pick Jackson up, and we. We got stitches yesterday. And then, you know, it just really escalated from there. I thought that that was going to be, like, the worst. No. I come home, and any person that has dedicated time to specifically being at home waiting on a service call, and they give you a time slot, and then they wait until after the time slot has expired, like 26 minutes past the time slot expired to let you know that they're actually going to be an hour and 10 minutes late get here. And this is for my home security system.

[Kristen]

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[Kristen]

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[Kristen]

It's not funny.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And I was like, if this is not the sign. So then I'm like, whatever. I'm just gonna. I'm gonna just, like, call it a day, you know? Like, this. This is really where you throw the towel in. So then I realized that not one, but both of my washers are running error codes that are. They're still running error codes.

[Kristen]

Okay?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So I'm like, yeah, God really had, like, different plans for me than what I had for myself, so I'm just gonna take my ass to bed, you know, this morning, honey. And, you know, it was just like that time of the month that some of us get.

[Kristen]

And that's when you know that you are getting screwed.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You know, it's really weird because last month I feel like I was five days past due, and this month I'm at least four days early. We had no tampons also, so.

[Kristen]

Which is terrible.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You know, it's. It's really just not fitting the vibe. Check. So after today. Oh, oh, also this morning, I missed my 7am Pilates class, so I know it's tragic. And now I've booked myself a center imbalance class because after the last 24 to 36 hours, I need to center and balance all I can get.

[Kristen]

At the point where you called me this morning, at the hour that you called me, I said, oh, she didn't make it to Pilates. I could tell by the tone in your voice that it had not been to Pilates.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It was not a Pilates voice. So for the rest of the week, I am going to do self care because I thought it was a really good idea also on Monday morning to text Kristen and let her know what did my text say? That I wanted to color my hair dark, That I needed to get a facial and sell my house or something.

[Kristen]

You said, this is the text that I got from you. You said, not me waking up this morning wanting to color my hair dark, take my fake nails off and clean out my closet. Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So that's the other conversation that we're about to get into. Everyone thinking that, like, I am this, you know, like, just most organized person in the world actually have zero sense of organization whatsoever. Stuff lays around my house at all times. Like, it's. It's organized chaos, but it's chaos nonetheless. I will take pictures for the Instagram and Facebook page for you guys to kind of see what's going on, but the amount of stuff that, like, I find on my counters that I've just kind of like, piled together. And it's that mentality of, like, I'll get to it when I get to it until it takes over one section of a countertop or cabinet space, and then I just move to another. So I'm trying to pinpoint my. My last days of recording for the year is what, Kristin? December 17th, I believe.

[Kristen]

Yes, I believe you're either. I think you might be the 16th.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, well, December 16th or December 17th, if we stay on track, then we're going to Disney, so I kind of have to prepare for that. And then we need to do Christmas, so I need to prepare for that. I'm thinking sometime around, like, the 28th through the 7th of January. No one asked me to do anything because I'm going to be elbows deep. And the home organization process.

[Kristen]

I feel like I. You and I say this every single year, and then all hell breaks loose and we end up not getting to actually organize.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, I'm actually doing it this year. I have no boyfriend. I have nothing better to do than to do that.

[Kristen]

Honestly, I love that for you. I'm hoping that I can do the same. We'll see if 10 years later, it'll actually occur.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Jackson's going to be with Will for New Year's. Actually, wait, was it you or somebody else that asked me yesterday? Oh, no, it was my hair girl. She was like, do you need your hair blown out on New Year's Eve? And I said, what?

[Kristen]

You're like, where am I going?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And she was like, yeah, I just need to make sure that I put you on the schedule if. If you need that done. And I said, I don't need my hair blown out to sit on my couch.

[Kristen]

Yeah, you're like, I want no plans for New Year's.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

She was like, wait, what do you do for New Year's Eve and New Year's Day? Nothing.

[Kristen]

I host on both days. Why?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Why would you do that?

[Kristen]

I. Lindsay, here's what's upcoming for me. Okay, we're gonna do a quick little rundown. I am hosting Thanksgiving. I am hosting Christmas Eve, probably Christmas Day dinner, New Year's Eve, and then New Year's Day dinner.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I think so every holiday from, like, next week until 2026.

[Kristen]

Yeah, Thanksgiving is Thanksgiving. That was unexpected. Like, I'm happy. I don't leave my house regardless, so it doesn't actually matter if I host or not. Like, I don't go anywhere. Like, I will stay home, and that is that Christmas Eve. I always do my pasta bar situation.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I love that idea.

[Kristen]

It's so good. I absolutely love it. This will be my fourth year doing it. I think it's a hit. It's great. We do pasta bar end games. My mother in law makes meatballs, brings those over in the crock pot, and we just have have ourselves a time. And then Christmas Day dinner is prime ribbon and like all the things, mashed potatoes and all those things. And then New Year's Eve, I do dips only. There's all kinds of dips. I did break the rule last year and I made Corey weenies in a blanket.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Wait, y' all call them weenies in a blanket?

[Kristen]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, what do you call them pigs in a blanket?

[Kristen]

Oh, I call them weenies in a blanket. So, like, made those for him. But outside of that, it's all different types of dips. So we're talking like everything from appetizer dip to like meal dip to like dessert dip.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That actually sounds phenomenal. I really like the themes, you know.

[Kristen]

Yeah, it's great. So we do that. And then New Year's Day dinner is also prime rib.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I love a good prime rib. And there's something about the, the sauce that goes on the prime rib that really just like hits me right.

[Kristen]

You like the horseradish. And my mom does two different types of gravy. She does the horseradish one for her, like her and Corey and whoever likes that. And then she does a champagne gravy for me.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, I love that you're so special that your mom would do a specific gravy just for you. I have to tell you, this thing that I saw on Facebook and the comments were crazy and I mean, definitely divided. So it says, don't force your children out at 18. Require them to contribute $1,000 a month in rent until they turn 24. Show them how the real world works. Budgeting, accountability, self reliance. But here's the twist. Set aside every dollar discreetly, quietly, without informing them. And on their 24th birthday, give it all back as a down payment for their first home, their first business, or their first major investment. They didn't just receive money, they formed a habit. And now they have an advantage. That's how you break cycles and create generations.

[Kristen]

I actually know people who have done similar things. Like they've charged their kids rent. Not a thousand dollars a month, but they've charged their kids rent to some capacity. And if they didn't actually need the money and were able to, you know, not have the additional funds, they saved it up for their kids and gave it back to them. I love that. Idea. I think that that's a great idea. I also think that it depends, like, right at 18, some kids aren't even graduated from high school yet.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Correct. I feel like this is probably like applying to somebody who would have already graduated from high school.

[Kristen]

Yeah, I think that makes sense. I think if you have the ability to do it, I think that that's great. If you're good with finances yourself and can show them things like that, I think that's great. But I also think that, like showing kids finances should be done starting way earlier than 18.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, I agree.

[Kristen]

I'm a big proponent of that in and of itself. Like, learning the value of a dollar can carry will carry you throughout your life.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So this person on here says you really want to teach them how the real world works. Take the money that they are paying you and go on vacation or buy another home with it yourself. No landlord will ever give you your money back from renting. And that's the real world. I'm like, yes, but if you have the ability to have your children live in your home and they're willing to do that and they're giving you money thinking that they're paying rent, but really they're just like stockpiling a little nest egg.

[Kristen]

Yeah. And they have no idea. So to them they are paying rent.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Right. So it is teaching them a habit and they're also benefiting on the back end and you're helping your children. I know that some people aren't in the position to be able to do that, but I think this is only speaking to the people who can.

[Kristen]

I would agree. And I, I think too, like you, it depends on what job that child is working. Right. Like what? Some parents believe that the kid's only job is school and they don't need to work. So it really depends on that type of situation. I think also it kind of only applies if your kid goes to college and stays home and doesn't like do the on campus experience or go away to college. Because otherwise why would you be charging them rent? I think it just really depends on the circumstances. But I'm a proponent. I don't see any negatives in it whatsoever. I would adjust the age a little bit depending on like what's going on, but I like it.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I feel like that that method of what was on that Facebook post could be used even if it was they were contributing 500amonth. Like, it doesn't specifically have to be a thousand. Just some of the comments were like a little crazy and judgy and I'm like, okay, if it doesn't apply then why are we trying to make it apply?

[Kristen]

Well, I think too like, and this is probably going to be an unpopular opinion, but you chose to have your kids. Having children is a lifetime, like till you're dead. From everything that I've witnessed, it doesn't just go till they're 18. And if you were able to house them, feed them, clothe them up until the day they turned 18, why would you start charging them money immediately after? So I do have that thought process. Like what makes you feel like all of a sudden, you know, and I get. People's financial circumstances are vastly different. So if you have been struggling up until that point, you know, that has to be like a hard thing. But I also know people who have charged their kids rent just because. And I, I don't, I can't get behind that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I can't get behind that either. Like there wouldn't be a world where I could see doing that to my child but for saving purposes and teaching them how to save money and give me a set amount of money and I can put it into a bank account and then they have access to it on their 24th birthday. I think that is phenomenal.

[Kristen]

Yeah, I agree.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And back to your point of, you know, some people view their kids going to school as their job and that was definitely Will's parents mentality. Like as long as he was in school and he was playing baseball then he didn't have to have a job and they paid for living expense and tuition. So you know, there's different strokes for different folks. I feel like I would be probably more like that with Jackson if he chooses to go to college. I feel like I would be more in line with doing that. But you just never know. Like I also think it depends on the kid too.

[Kristen]

I wholeheartedly agree. Like what is good for one may not be good for the other. What is that saying what's good for the goose isn't good for the gander or some like that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

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[Kristen]

I feel like I heard about this a slight bit so I'm intrigued to see the TikTok. But we'll see.

[Guest/Expert]

It was one of the toughest angel tree shopping hauls that I have ever watched. So let's discuss what is happening in this video, this lady says she's picking up two angel tree kiddos, a girl and a boy. She wanted to shop for the girl first. As you can see here, the girl's list is very long, very detailed. She knows exactly what she wants for Christmas. I would even say this creator is kind of poking fun at the fact that the little girl knew exactly what she wanted to see, stating that at Target, they said you have to spend at least $30. And so that's what they're aiming to spend on these children. Now, why you wouldn't take that ticket back up to customer service and say, hey, we're actually looking to spend closer to that $30 budget. Can you maybe find us a different tag is beyond me. You literally took a little girl's Christmas wish list, said all these details, everything you've listed doesn't matter. You're going to get one or two toys off of this, if that. So as she's shopping, she's going through the list. The little girl says she wants a baby alive. She wants specific Barbies, Chelsea Dol. And she's like, I can't get any of this stuff. So she goes to the baby aisle, is going to pick up a baby doll that wasn't on the list and a baby stroller. She then goes to the little boy, and he just requested four items on his list to which she is not completing that list either. She is only getting one or two items off of that list as well.

[Kristen]

Okay, I'm immediately pissed. So I'm hoping the article makes me feel different.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, I immediately was pissed when I saw that. So I go online and I'm like, let me try to dissect, like, what is actually going on. Because when I went to try to see the video, the tick tock had been deleted. So the account's name was it's cookie dough. And she posted an initial video where she explains that her and her husband chose to be the angels to two kids. And in her video, she comments on how expensive some of the items are on the little girls list. And she says that the guidelines for the angel tree say there's a thirty dollar minimum. However, she says thirty dollars is her budget. So she complains that she can't read everything on the girls list. And she opts out. She opts to buy some items that aren't even on the list. After she uploaded the initial video, other users took clips to share their commentary on the angel tree drama and what the user did wrong. And it was supposed to be a good deed for the holidays. So it says that she opts for Target store brand items that are not on the list for little girl. And since the entire point of being an angel tree Griff gifter is to grant holiday wishes for children to their specific wants. And the user face backlash from other TikTok creators who called her out for what they see as laziness and clear lack of effort. I was absolutely pissed about this. And evidently she got so much backlash that she deleted the entire account. Like, not just the video, but her entire TikTok account.

[Kristen]

Okay, here's my thing. Giving any amount of money to a child who might not receive Christmas gifts at all, I'm on board with. Right. I also agree with the person in the TikTok we just watched where she said, maybe take it back up and say, I'm looking to spend this. This one looks way more money than that. Could I have something that aligns more? Because maybe somebody else would come along that has the funds to be able to spend more money. I also thinking that, thinking this through out loud, that girl might not have gotten any Christmas gifts if nobody picked her. So I will say that part. What it sounds like is that she was like, nitpicking and making fun of this on her TikTok. Yep. That is the shit that I absolutely won't get behind. If you are doing a good deed and you're an ugly person, don't do it. Am I ugly? I'm not talking about physical appearance. I'm talking about you're not doing it for the right reasons. You're clearly using it for content. You're ripping apart this child's Christmas list. And what the fuck is the point of getting things that are not on the list when the girl was very specific with what she wanted?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I guess where she lost me is the point where she selected a boy and a girl. And I guess from my understanding, the max spend that she wanted to spend was like $30 per child. So if you get a list that has very specific items on them, and I feel like just because a child's on the angel tree doesn't mean that, like, they can't have a wish list, just like children who aren't. Right. And so that really upset me. But at the point that the maximum that you. You want to give is $30 per child, if you have $60, why wouldn't you have picked a list that you could have gotten all of the items off of the list for $60 and just picked one?

[Kristen]

That's a great question. I don't understand it. Seems like she wanted it for content and it was being a complete asshole about it. And it's like at that point you might as well not even do the good deed.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And just because children are on an angel tree doesn't mean that they don't see what other children have and desire to have those same things. So I don't understand why we are picking apart a child for having specific brands on a list.

[Kristen]

I just, I cannot get behind it. I'm still pissed that it just pissed me off further actually.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And Will and I used to in college we would go to a local mall and pick a child off of the angel tree. And you could, I mean they had it hanging on a tree.

[Kristen]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And you could go through and kind of like look at the, the wish list and pick based off of that. So I'm just really confused how you are are given that list. And I'm assuming that maybe if Target's like passing them out that they just kind of like give you one if you say a boy and a girl. From, from my understanding. But why wouldn't you give that list back? Or why wouldn't you then if, if you're gonna go on and create content about something, why wouldn't you put it on your personal Facebook to see if you had any friends that would maybe want to join forces with you to fulfill the wish list?

[Kristen]

That's what I don't understand. Like I, I just, I think that it was done for the wrong reasons. You can't convince me that it wasn't. And I'm glad she deactivated her shit.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So, and completely unrelated news to that, I need to ask you if you would be upset if you saw your husband had sent a five dollar payment to another woman.

[Kristen]

Depends what it was for.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay. Well, apparently this girlfriend was absolutely enraged. Now she has been arrested. She's facing multiple charges because she allegedly attacked her boyfriend over him sending a woman $5. So she is being held on 75, 000 bond and was charged with aggravated battery and resisting arrest. It says that she became upset after discovering her boyfriend and sent a five dollar payment to another woman via a mobile app. She found this payment when she was going through her boyfriend's phone. According to the arrest report, she confronted her boyfriend about the discovery, calling him multiple derogatory names and escalating the situation situation to violence, hitting him multiple times in the mouth. And police found that his shirt was torn and stained with blood.

[Kristen]

Here's the thing. She's either absolutely psychotic or there's a pattern of Cheating here.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I mean, I would love to know. Of course you're not going to tell us what the $5 was for.

[Kristen]

Of course not.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But I would just love to know. Number one, you. I would venture to say that most people can hardly even walk out their door and not spend $5.

[Kristen]

I mean, I can, but, like, Corey will order lunch at work from, like, a food truck, and I'm pretty sure it's a woman. Like, I'll see the random charge come up on my bank account. Like, I don't even question it. I don't care. I think the first time I saw it, I was like, what is this for? I thought we were hacked. And he's like, oh, it's like the food, whatever. And I was like, okay. Like, if it was some random woman.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I mean, I'm just going to venture out to say that there probably was some type of history of infidelity. If we're showing our ass that big over a $5 payment to a woman on a mobile app, I'm assuming mobile app means, like, cash app or Venmo.

[Kristen]

Cash app, Venmo. Most. Like, maybe Zell.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And we know that I found out a lot of information about somebody that I dated by just looking at his Venmo.

[Kristen]

Yeah. So that's why, like, here's the thing. Most women don't just go insane for no reason. So. So I would like to know what the reason is.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I mean, I don't think that it was necessary for her to, you know, pull out a. A knife from the kitchen and throw it at your boyfriend's head. And, you know, it allegedly cut his face, I think over $5. And we are stacking up multiple felony charges. I just. I don't know that I would take it that far.

[Kristen]

Yeah, I mean, here's what I'll say. We all have bad days.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That kind.

[Kristen]

Of bad day, you know, it could have been. I just want to know the reason before I make a verdict here. Like, honestly, there is a possibility that I might align.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

What type of aligning? Like, how far of alignment are we in?

[Kristen]

Well, if there was a pattern of cheating and that was her last straw, I could understand why a knife got thrown.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I mean, at the point that my man sends somebody else, another woman, $5 immediately, I probably already left.

[Kristen]

Yeah, but, like, unless you knew what it was for.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, okay, so let me tell you this story. So I had been dating this person for a while, right? And I forgot about the theory that one of my girlfriends told me. Like, always look at their Venmo. Like, you'll find out a lot about them if you look at their Venmo. And I was just laying in bed one night and I'm like, I've actually never looked at that person's Venmo. So I go to it. Please tell me why this man told me that he was never in love with the person that he was with prior to me. And there are multiple venmos back and forth with, like, nicknames and, like, what do they call them? Like, puppy names?

[Kristen]

Like pet names?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Pet names with I love yous and a million hearts and ring emojis. And I'm like, but wait a minute. Like, also, I know based off of things that you've told me that you were doing stuff behind that person's back during those dates. Okay, so now my red flags are flying. Well, I guess his red flags are flying because why are we on here, like, calling each other pet names and I love you and you're actively cheating.

[Kristen]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

Because I don't think that that person ever thought that they would date somebody that would possibly go back and look at Venmo stuff and start aligning dates. I think very much underestimated me.

[Kristen]

Is this the same individual that hid certain photos on Facebook?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No.

[Kristen]

Oh, okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No. Do you want me to type it?

[Kristen]

Yeah, I need to know.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You're probably going to be like, okay, well that makes sense.

[Kristen]

I wonder if it's like, who? I think, oh my God. I did not pick that one. Yeah, I did not pick that one. Actually. I thought the dumb stuff that was done was out loud, but evidently not.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And then it just caused me to Kind of start mentally spiraling because I feel like once you see one thing, you can't unsee it.

[Kristen]

Yes.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, eats at you and then you're like, okay, I know based off of things that I have been told that these dates don't really align. This person said that he never loved that person. And now I'm seeing it with my own eyes. You know, what was the actual truth at this point? And why would somebody lie about something like that? So then you just like go into a deep spiral. Well, then this led me to confront it. I confront the situation in a very calm manner. Just like, hey, I mean, I told him myself. I was like, hey, I went and looked at your Venmo transactions and just had a couple of questions about these. Gave him like enough rope to kinda, you know. Yep. And then immediately I was gaslit. And it's like, well, there's still pictures of you and every person that you've been with on the Internet. It's like, it doesn't matter if I delete those things from my social media or not. They've still been on an article or like they're captured somewhere.

[Kristen]

Yes.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, Please tell me why I'd also never gone to this person's Facebook because I was never friends with him on Facebook and there's still photos of him with this other person all over it. And it's like, how are you going to say something to me about that?

[Kristen]

But.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And it allegedly bothers you, but your stuff's all still up and I've never.

[Kristen]

Said anything about it. That's called hypocrisy. That's.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

What do you do with someone like that?

[Kristen]

Well, run.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But I mean, I did.

[Kristen]

Yeah. Run very far away for the hills. Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And that's why, bringing it all the way back to the front of this episode, that's why the security system is like of utmost importance.

[Kristen]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You know, remember like the one that.

[Kristen]

I was like, hey, so we should think about this as you're moving. And you were like, no.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah. I guess my biggest thing is why is it always the men that love bomb the crap out of you, but they're like the sneakiest behind your back?

[Kristen]

Because if they have to love bomb you, there's already something wrong.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

What do you mean?

[Kristen]

Like, if you, if the men have to love bomb you, they're love bombing you to entrap you and like cover up other crap that's going on.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

This was the same person that lied to me and said that they were at a gym at 10 o' clock at Night. And the gym's not even open. Like, do I look like I was born yesterday?

[Kristen]

Evidently, yes.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Lied straight to my face and was gonna take it so far to drive to the gym with me to prove that he was there, that he wasn't there.

[Kristen]

Lindsay. What? All of these things added up for Run for the Hills.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Why do you think that I ran for the hills?

[Kristen]

Yeah. Yep.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You know what I mean?

[Kristen]

The red flags got a little too red for you. They did.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

They did. And you know what? To be perfectly honest, if you dial back, like, every person that you've ever been with, and this is, like, for anybody who's listening to this too, if you really dial it back, there were probably signs so much ahead of, like, you. You seeing them. And hindsight's always 20 20. Like, you start looking back and you're like, wait, that actually should have been a sign. I would have saved myself a whole lot of time.

[Kristen]

But that's why they say hindsight's 20 20.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, I don't like hindsight.

[Kristen]

No, no. It just makes you feel really dumb.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It's not my friend. Wait, have you seen this thing? Speaking of relationships, have you seen this thing called the bird theory?

[Kristen]

Absolutely not.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You haven't? Oh, my God. I wish I had somebody to do this with.

[Kristen]

Okay, hold on. Let's see. Does this have anything to actually do with birds?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I mean, you're gonna see.

[Kristen]

I'm nervous.

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

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[Kristen]

You know, when you were inside, I.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Saw a really pretty bird.

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

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[Kristen]

I saw a bird today.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

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[Kristen]

Saw a bird today.

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[Kristen]

Why are you telling.

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

You know, these tests come and go. And I tell you what, this one.

[Guest/Expert]

Is particularly sneaky because it does have.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Gottman's research behind it. And there's a wish that all of.

[Guest/Expert]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

Little test like that. So although there's Validity.

[Guest/Expert]

It's putting too much weight in one little micro moment.

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

Well, tell us about Gottman's theory. Tell us about that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

What Gottman says is that romantic relationships are not made up of the grand sweeping gesture. You know, the rose petals on the bed and all of the sort of fairytale ideas that we grow up with.

[Guest/Expert]

In fact, romantic relationships, the healthy ones.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Are made up of a series of thousands and thousands and millions of micro moments of connection that build trust and safety and authenticity between partners. That's what this test is about. It's a bid for connection.

[Kristen]

Okay, I immediately need to call Corey and ask him this. Like, I'm not kidding.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, cool.

[Kristen]

Should I do it?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Kristen]

Okay, hold on. Hi, you've reached the voicemail thank you button on me. Don't call me back. I think he's at the store picking up dinner. So we'll. We'll have to test that theory. That is so interesting to me. I absolutely agree that, like, it's not about, like, the grand gestures. It's about the little things just the same way that it's about the little things negatively, it's about the little things positively for me. So, like, I can. I can. I can understand where it's coming from. What are your thoughts on it?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I mean, I think it all makes sense to me. And, you know, being in three relationships post divorce, that I feel like. I know that you hate when I say this were ultimately, like, failures. I feel like a lot of times whenever you're in a dating relationship, it. Men go wrong because they think it is all about the grand gesture, right?

[Kristen]

Yes.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And it's like they try to pull out all the stops of all the things. But I will tell you one of the biggest green flags in a relationship to me with someone asking me if we can have a nap date.

[Kristen]

Yes. Because they, like, know you and they listen to you and they know what you like. And like, I don't know, like, Corey constantly does, like, these little things for me to the point where I'm like, oh, my God, I have to set my own game up. Like, we were away. We were in Delaware for kale stuff. And he went to the store to get Creed some coloring books and stuff. And he comes back and he's like, like, I have a surprise for you. And I was like, what? And he had gotten me a stitch that he found at the store. I absolutely love stitch. Got me stitch. And it was just like, to add to, like, my little stitch collection that he has for me. And it was the cutest thing. It's just like the dumbest. It doesn't have to be something that he like, bought even. Just like, I'll be in the shower and he'll put out a towel for me if I forgot.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, see, I, I love stuff like that. I love somebody who will kind of like sit on the bath and like, have a conversation with me while I'm taking a bath. And I value that over them taking me out on a date.

[Kristen]

Same. I'm not a huge date girl. I'm really not. I. I don't like leaving my house. So to plan like a big, extravagant date for me, not my vibe.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I think that ultimately that's probably what ended it with one of my situations was that person always wanted to like go out on dates and get dressed up. And it's like, I'm sorry, but I am a single mom and if I'm at home working, whether that be doing stuff around the house or whether that be podcasting or, you know, I've ran errands all day or I just like have that's going on, I truly don't want to then get ready at 5 o', clock, put on makeup, fix my hair, go out on a date, sit in an environment that I don't want to be in to come home to take it like all off. And I think that it's so important. There are some women that like absolutely love that stuff.

[Kristen]

Agreed.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

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[Kristen]

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[Kristen]

I agree. Cory's calling me back. Let's do this.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Perfect.

[Kristen]

Hey babe. I just had to tell you something. What do you have to tell me? I saw a bird today. Yeah.

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

And what kind of bird was it?

[Kristen]

It was a cardinal. Okay. What is that?

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

That's nothing new for around here.

[Kristen]

No, but I saw it.

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

I'm a little confused why? You're super excited about it. I'm really confused.

[Kristen]

I'm just. I was. I just saw a bird today. Okay, you saw a red bird.

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

Cool.

[Kristen]

I don't know how to react to that. I was doing a test on you and you failed. You started good, ended bad. We're recording Southern tea, so I gotta go. Go.

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

No, no, no, no, no. I needed backstory to this.

[Kristen]

It's a relation. It's a relationship test. I'll show you the tik tok later.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You two need to knock it off.

[Kristen]

With this damn tik tok. Love you.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Bye.

[Kristen]

Love you too. Bye. He started off well, ended terribly.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, mute yourself, because I'm gonna call my ex husband and show you guys why we're divorced.

[Kristen]

Okay. Speak.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Hey. What are you doing?

[Kristen]

Working.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

What are you doing?

[Kristen]

Nothing.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I just saw a bird.

[Kristen]

What?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I just saw a bird.

[Kristen]

All right. You saw a bird outside?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

Cool, man.

[Kristen]

What relevance am I supposed to be taking from this?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I saw a bird.

[Kristen]

All right, well, that's awesome.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Are you gonna ask me about it?

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

No.

[Kristen]

Because it's something probably stupid for your podcast and I know that I'm being recorded and I didn't give my consent, so desist. There you go.

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

Congratulations.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, I'll call you back to talk about his test later.

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

Okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

He's like, like, outside.

[Kristen]

He said, like, outside.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, what's wrong with you, dude?

[Kristen]

You don't leave the house.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, he knows. I literally don't go outside. I am a house dweller. No, but I do think that, like, this test actually could work.

[Kristen]

I agree. Corey started strong, ended bad. Will is just Will.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Will just failed. And that's why. That's why we're no longer married.

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

So.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, I saw this quote, and I want you to tell me if this is not the phase of my life that I'm in right now.

[Kristen]

Okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It said, you get really comfortable being single, and the thought of sharing your bed, your TV shows with someone else becomes less and less appealing because you get set in your ways. And while I haven't been doing this for very long, but, like, long enough, I feel like I've had enough time to create some patterns that I have zero desire, actually. I told you yesterday.

[Kristen]

Huh?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I have zero desire to have any situation outside of, like, a casual dating situation. And by meaning like a casual dating situation, like, we might see each other, like, a couple times a Year I.

[Kristen]

That is the phase of life my mom is in. Like, my mom is, like, not about, like, a relationship situation. She's got, like, a companion. But they, they like, just. They only hang out one time month.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And do they just, like, do activities and stuff?

[Kristen]

They do. I don't know what they do, honestly, on their, like, one day, I really am not sure.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I mean, I feel like I'm just in a phase of life that I so much enjoy just having time with Jackson by myself that I, number one, couldn't even imagine, like, sharing space. Number two, I just don't need to invite anything. I am in such a, like, level of fear to, like, even process thinking about inviting somebody into my life now that, like, everything's gone. I just don't want a disruption of peace.

[Kristen]

Yeah, and I get it. It's like, it's easy to get set in your ways.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like when I tell you there is nothing nicer than being able to get in a bath leisurely whenever you want to, to be able to. To fold clothes whenever you want to, to eat dinner when you want to, to watch whatever show you want to watch, to read your Kindle and not feel like you're, like, sharing all those parts of yourself. And time.

[Kristen]

I think too, like, you're getting your me time back.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

The me time, I feel like is.

[Kristen]

So underrated because you're torn in a million different directions on a daily basis.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like me specifically or just people in general.

[Kristen]

People in general. Like, when you think about from the time that a normal person wakes up, right? They're getting up, they're getting ready for the day. That's like, obligatory. Have to get ready for work, whether it's remote, whether it's in person. Most people are going and they're doing like a job of some sort. And then you have. You're meeting the needs of your employer at that point. You're doing job tasks. It's nothing to do for you. Yes. You're getting money in exchange. Money is a necessity. Again, not a me thing. Then if you have a significant other, you have their needs and all those things to consider. If you have kids, you have all of their needs and all that stuff to consider and their schedules and whatever, whatever. If you still have your parents, like, all the things, like, you're needed. Most people are needed in so many different ways, shapes and forms in their everyday life that by the time that day is over, you either have to choose to get a restful night sleep or fight said sleep to try to get an ounce of me time. That's still not fulfilling, I can tell you.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I feel like I have found that I have so much more time in the day. And I know, like, the 24 hours didn't change, right?

[Kristen]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But I feel like I've gotten so much more time back just not focusing on anybody else. Like, yes, I focus on Jackson and solely on him. Him when he's here.

[Kristen]

Right.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But when it's just me, it's like, oh, I mean, for truly. The first week of my breakup, you remember this? I was like, what do I do?

[Kristen]

Yeah. You're like, I have so much extra time.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah. And then I'm like, okay, now I've read, like, what is it, Three or four books in, like, six weeks worth of time.

[Kristen]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I can kind of just, like, come and go as I please if I want to go, like, get my nails done on a random afternoon and not worry about, like, what's going on on that evening because, you know, I'm possibly going on a date or something like that. It's just nice to, like, not worry about it. But am I too young to, like, feel like this?

[Kristen]

No. I think it's also just a phase. You're, like, fresh out. You're getting your me time back. Back. All those things. I think it's. I don't think that it's. I don't think it's gonna last, put it that way. I know it feels like it is, but I don't think it'll last.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

What do you mean? Like, the me time?

[Kristen]

No, I don't think that you feeling like you don't want to get in a relationship is gonna last.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, I think it's gonna last.

[Kristen]

But, like, at some point you're going to, like. It's like when your priorities shift, right. Your priority might become, like, wanting to find someone to do life with. If it doesn't, that's also okay. But I just think, knowing you, that it will.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I don't think so. And here's why. Because when I got accepted to the. Are we dating the same guy Group to be nosy, it's like, that was bad timing if I ever was going to be on the market again, because it immediately made me never want to.

[Kristen]

I. I think it's just really hard. Right.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You.

[Kristen]

You have been through relationships after your divorce that you didn't even heal from, you know? So I think that there's a lot of healing that needs to happen, and then your opinion might change.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah. But I. I feel like that's gonna take quite some time.

[Kristen]

I would. I Would agree. I think you definitely owe yourself time.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I just want to know the people that are out like on the dating apps. Like, are you not afraid?

[Kristen]

Dating? I wouldn't do a dating app. I literally would never.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I just like the mentality of the dating apps. We've talked about it before but like I just don't.

[Kristen]

I would say most people on them are not genuinely looking for a relationship, like a long term relationship.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So what are they doing?

[Kristen]

Probably not serious. Probably don't think that they'll find a match. Maybe looking for a hookup, a casual hookup here and there.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh dear God.

[Kristen]

Might have a whole other family.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, I know. I've seen so many things about like I saw this one woman post on Facebook. She posted a full blown picture of her and her husband and it was like I found some text in my husband's phone and I need to know if anybody's been with him. We've had a 16 year old marriage and I found some texts that were like very unnerving and it's like, what are. If you have been with somebody for 16 years, like at this point, just.

[Kristen]

Call it a day. You know, I don't know why people do the that they do and think that it's going to work out for them.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It's like Kale and I talk about all the time, like why people commit crimes in today's time, including cheating crime. Because why are you doing that? Because you're going to get caught.

[Kristen]

Amen. Honestly, Amen.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I'm like, what in the world? Okay, so I have weekly devotional and weekly tea is something that you and I have been talking about for a couple of days. But the weekly devotional this week is from Psalm 46:10. What's meant for you will come without chasing. You don't have to force it. You don't have to beg for it. Stay still and trust him. He's already working it out in ways that you can't see. Soon you'll look back and say, God gave me more than I asked for. Trust God to open your door. And a couple of notes from church this week. Don't pray when you feel like it. Have an appointment with the Lord and keep it. The Lord directs our steps. Temptation causes us to settle for far less spiritually than we desire. When we have all that we need, we often don't see a need. Our Lord finds our desires not too strong, but too weak.

[Kristen]

I really feel like I need to go to church.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Am I converting you over to the church?

[Kristen]

Maybe I don't know I'm gonna be there this Sunday, so we'll see if anyone dies.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, my gosh. I really.

[Kristen]

You're like, I really hope not.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I'm gonna be praying for you in church this week while you're at the church. Church that good things are to come of that, because I just find that I have so much more peace. And I don't know if it's necessarily as much of, like, the routine of going to church, but just the commitment to church. I don't know if I told you, but we were invited to a tailgate for the Falcons Panthers game this past weekend. And someone was like, just come to the tailgate. We're gonna get down there about 9 o'.

[Kristen]

Clock.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And I said, well, the game's not till one. That's like a long tailgate, but, you know, whatever. And I said, further, we're going to 9 o' clock service at church, so we probably won't be getting to Atlanta until about 11. And I was told, and my son was told, you know, just skip church. God won't judge you. He would want you to have fun. And I looked at Jackson and he was like, it's fine. We can, you know, go to church. Which made me so proud. But I told him, I said, it's about the commitment. Right. Like, if you're committing to doing that, it's the same thing with sports. Right. If he's committed to his team, then he needs to be committed to his teammates. Nights, on days that he might want to be committed to something else, stuff's always going to come up.

[Kristen]

Yep.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But you have to stay steadfast in the commitments that you make. And for my house, the commitment on Sunday mornings is to go to church. And I feel so bad to talk about weekly tea, but, like, I feel like it has been headlines and you and I have talked about it multiple times. We were in a group, group chat that I'm pretty sure started off our last Friday morning at like 8am sharp. There was a headline that says, lots of micro penises news this week. And it's absolutely so wild to me. So I had ran across this article on Page Six and it was talking about the Golden State Killer. And it said that he might have only gotten caught because of his micro penis because there's nothing there. And it said it's been a huge week for micro penises, especially those that belong to psychopaths. So it says. First it was revealed that DNA evidence has shown that Hitler may have had a miniature soldier. And now a new book claims that the golden state killer, the infamous serial killer who is famously caught with the help of Michelle McNamara and the. The wife of Patton Oswald, may have only been caught because of his shrunken schlong.

[Kristen]

The micro penis is really taking over. And, you know, it really is tracking. To me, the people they're attaching one.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

To, it's really wild because number one, I just need to know how they would have like that type of information about the size. But supposedly there was like no DNA that was linking this Golden State killer to some of the crimes. And it was said that they needed circumstantial evidence to corroborate his identity. And it says they needed to confirm the extreme smallness of his penis. So the cops and a photographer were assigned to take pics of his. His genitalia while he was in custody. And it says that the photog kneeled down to do so. But he grew frustrated. After several failed attempts, One of the cops threw up his hands in the air and an exasperation embarked. There's nothing there.

[Kristen]

That's literally insane and so mortifying.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So it says that the police reported that allegedly it was smaller than the circumference of a dime and its length is equal to the tip of your pinky.

[Kristen]

Okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So at that point, it was said that they had the circumstantial evidence they needed in order to corroborate testimonies of the victims.

[Kristen]

You know, the is wild.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Isn't that wild? And it was said that Adolf Hitler had some type of genetic condition. And in a documentary it was talking about how that syndrome can disrupt the process that drives puberty. Puberty. And it manifests into symptoms that include undescended testicles and a micro penis.

[Kristen]

Oh, wow. The amount of times we've talked about.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Microdig, it's really alarming. But in a quote in this CBS news article, it says no one has ever really been able to explain why Hitler was so uncomfortable around women throughout his wife or why he. Through his life, or why he probably never entered into an intimate relations. Intimate relations with women, it says. But now we know that he had coloman. Is that how you say it? Coloman syndrome?

[Kristen]

I think so.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And it says this could be the answer that we were looking for.

[Kristen]

I just. I said this earlier and I'm going to say it again. I just wonder how many psychopaths they can connect this condition to.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, so it was talking about doing profiles like on this one. TikTok that I think it was like a true crime person. They were like, is Is this information going to cause like further research into psychopaths and like serial killers?

[Kristen]

I would hope so, because it's like, okay, is there a correlation?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I mean, I would just feel like the level of anger that like, that's what you're walking around with on a daily basis. Supposedly, allegedly Hitler only had one ball as well.

[Kristen]

I did read that there is a possibility he only had one.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But like, why would we know that?

[Kristen]

That's a fantastic question.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And I don't think they have any photos or anything like that. I think that it's just being speculated based off of how he was and, you know, likely suffering this rare genetic condition that it would have led to that. I just feel like a man that's out here like working with something significant is not out here doing like heinous crimes. I could be wrong.

[Kristen]

I just think that it probably has a lot. Like this would make sense to me.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But in what way? Just like out of, like them doing these crimes out of.

[Kristen]

It's like small dick energy. You're trying to like be big dick everywhere else. So you're like killing people and you're. I'm not going to get into Hitler and the things that he did, but like, that makes sense to me. You're overcompensating.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I just think it's very, very wild. And the fact that the small wiener became circumstantial evidence is wild.

[Kristen]

I just want to know, like, who said the one ball theory also same like, where did that come from?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, not me. Just like staying up until 4 o' clock in the morning, like researching all of this stuff and like trying to ask Chat GPT if there's any photos of these things out on the Internet.

[Kristen]

Meanwhile, I go to go on Chat GBT this morning for something and the server's down. I was like, great.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Wait, why would the server be down on Chat GPT?

[Kristen]

There's. There is a server situation that went down that Chachi BT is on. So is Twitter. Twitter was completely knocked out today. I don't know what else it knocked out, but it was, it's like it was a whole server situation. Kind of like when people were having like issues with other servers, like not that long ago because something got hacked and went down and it was like, everybody up. It's like that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I mean, that's really just inconvenient because I really was going to. In the next hour of my time before I go to.

[Kristen]

It might be back up. I'm not really sure.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

My stretch class I. I was gonna see if I could ask chat GBT if there was like any of these photos on the Dark Web.

[Kristen]

Oh my God. Oh my God. I don't think I want to see anyone's one nut.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You know, I mean, I just feel like for research purposes, I'm sort of curious.

[Kristen]

This.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, it's, you know, it's just like curiosity. I. If I'm reading about all of this and I'm spending time like deep diving, like deep into it and reading about rare genetic conditions, I. I need to see the photo to see what we're actually talking about because I did chat GPT last night, like the average and it says the average is 5.1 to 5.3, I think, and a micro one is 2.5 or less.

[Kristen]

You know what, Give me out for the day.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That, that actually is not going to take anybody out. So on that note, I've got other stuff to do. So I hope that you guys have a fantastic week. If you have not subscribed to the show, you can do that from any podcast app, wherever you get your pods, always first at Podcast one. We hope you guys have a great week week and we'll talk to you soon.

[Kristen]

Bye.

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