Morgan Simianer: Raised by Resilience

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Squeeze – Episode Featuring Morgan Simianer: "Raised by Resilience"

Release Date: May 28, 2025

Introduction

In this compelling episode of The Squeeze, host Taylor Lautner sits down with Morgan Simianer, a celebrated cheerleader known for her resilience and inspiring journey. Together, they delve deep into Morgan's early life challenges, her path to marriage, her experiences in competitive cheerleading, and her ongoing battle with mental health. This conversation not only highlights Morgan's personal struggles and triumphs but also offers valuable insights into coping strategies and the power of vulnerability.

Early Life and Upbringing

Morgan opens up about her tumultuous childhood, marked by a strained relationship with her parents and the absence of a stable support system. “Growing up, my life wasn't awful, terrible, but I did face a lot of challenges,” she shares (17:16). She describes living independently during her high school years, a period that forced her to mature rapidly. The lack of parental support left her feeling isolated and questioning her self-worth, often leading her to self-harm as a coping mechanism. However, Morgan emphasizes that these hardships fostered her resilience: “Everything that I went through growing up made me who I am today” (17:16).

Marriage and Relationship Dynamics

Morgan recounts the unconventional way she met her husband, Taylor Lautner, through an online platform. Nervous about their first date, she decided to bring two of her best friends along for safety. “Our first date ended up being like 17, 18 hours long... We've been together every single day since then” (08:38). Their relationship, built on mutual support and understanding of each other's mental health struggles, has flourished into a two-year marriage filled with love and companionship. Morgan describes marriage as “the easiest thing ever,” attributing their strong bond to having lived together before tying the knot (12:23).

Cheerleading Journey

Morgan’s passion for cheerleading began in her youth, though she faced obstacles due to limited opportunities in Wyoming. Her determination led her to Navarro College, where she overcame initial insecurities during tryouts. Reflecting on her perseverance, Morgan states, “I just have to have it. I have to have it” (07:34). Her tenure at Navarro was transformative, allowing her to develop advanced skills and gain confidence. Despite a challenging first tryout where she felt inadequate, Morgan's persistence paid off when Navarro College unexpectedly accepted her into their competitive cheer team (40:05).

Mental Health and Resilience

A recurring theme in Morgan’s narrative is her ongoing struggle with mental health, shaped by her early experiences. She discusses the importance of reframing her past hardships into sources of strength: “I just feel like learning through it and taking it and not using it as a negative” (36:06). Morgan emphasizes the role of her grandparents and husband in providing unwavering support, helping her navigate and heal from her past traumas. Her resilience is evident in her ability to maintain a positive outlook despite significant challenges.

Impact of Social Media

Morgan addresses the dual-edged nature of social media in her life. Initially terrified of sharing her personal struggles online, she discovered that vulnerability could inspire and help others: “I didn't know that sharing my story would have that effect” (45:14). While she acknowledges the negative aspects, such as cyberbullying and unrealistic comparisons, Morgan has learned to curate her online presence authentically. “I post pictures and I don't even edit a single photo... it's just real and raw” (49:12).

Battle Camp Experience

Morgan participated in Battle Camp, a competitive reality show, where she found both challenges and camaraderie. She highlights her least favorite moment as being forced to eat bugs but cherished her time meeting fellow cast members, particularly forming strong friendships with Shubi, QT, Kyle, and Nick. “I became best friends” (55:42). This experience underscored the importance of teamwork and personal growth, further cementing her resilience and adaptability.

Lemon Seven: Rapid Fire Reflections

In the final segment, Morgan answers seven rapid-fire questions, providing deeper insights into her personality and coping mechanisms:

1. Movie or Song Title Describing Mental Health Today: The Life by Miley Cyrus/Hannah Montana. “This is a lot. But that's us right now. We're like, yeah, living it” (57:47).

2. Openness About Struggles: “Not very open at all. I have a very small group of people I feel comfortable telling anything to” (58:02).

3. Top Three Social Media Accounts to Follow: Kylie Mae, Christy Howard, and Starbucks. Morgan values authenticity and relatability in her choices.

4. Favorite Form of Self-Care: “Hibernating” – shutting down from all digital and social activities to reset mentally.

5. Most Misunderstood Thing: Her actual age and continued passion for cheerleading despite perceptions.

6. Most Positive Impact on Mental Health: Her grandparents and husband, who have been pillars of support throughout her life.

7. Moment to Revisit and Advice to Younger Self: She would tell her younger self that “it's gonna be good” and encourage her to share her story to inspire others (62:13).

Conclusion

Morgan Simianer's episode on The Squeeze is a testament to the power of resilience, the importance of supportive relationships, and the impact of sharing one's story. Her candid discussions offer listeners both inspiration and practical insights into managing mental health, embracing vulnerability, and pursuing passions despite obstacles. Morgan’s journey exemplifies how confronting and overcoming personal challenges can lead to profound personal growth and the ability to positively influence others.

Notable Quotes

• “Everything that I went through growing up made me who I am today.” – Morgan Simianer (17:16)

• “Our first date ended up being like 17, 18 hours long... We've been together every single day since then.” – Morgan Simianer (08:38)

• “I just feel like learning through it and taking it and not using it as a negative.” – Morgan Simianer (36:06)

• “I didn't know that sharing my story would have that effect.” – Morgan Simianer (45:14)

• “This is a lot. But that's us right now. We're like, yeah, living it.” – Morgan Simianer (57:47)

Timestamp References

• Early Life and Upbringing: 17:16
• Marriage Story: 08:38, 12:23
• Cheerleading Journey: 07:34, 40:05
• Mental Health and Resilience: 36:06, 36:20
• Social Media Impact: 45:14, 49:12
• Battle Camp Experience: 55:42
• Lemon Seven Segment: 57:47, 58:02, 60:15, 62:13

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Transcript

[Morgan]

The following podcast is a Dear media production. If you're going to go somewhere, like, it's cheering, like, you need to go somewhere where they know what they're doing. So I googled best places to cheer in the United States of America. Navarro College pops up. I watch a video, and I was like, I'm going there. Oh, let's go. It's game time. Like, this is going to be iconic. It's like, during track, I'm, like, doing cartwheels and back flips when I should be running.

[Unknown Host]

I'm shocked right now. You haven't been doing this your entire life?

[Morgan]

No. What? I just, like, didn't have the fear of, like, trying anything. I was like, let's just flip our body and see how this. See how this goes.

[Unknown Host]

Were you scared at all sharing about your personal life?

[Morgan]

I just feel like I'm going to be judged. Like, I feel like it's a part of me that, like, I've hidden for so long, terrified of what other people were going to think. You know, flip side of it, it's like the complete opposite. Where I was like, I hid it forever. I don't want anyone to know about it. And now it's like, the world knows, but it's like, helping others. Where I was like, I would have never in a million years would have thought sharing my story would have done that.

[Unknown Host]

Morgan, welcome to the Squeeze.

[Morgan]

Thank you.

[Unknown Host]

I am so excited because I've watched you on my TV multiple times now. I just feel like we would be friends. Like, I just feel like you're so sweet, but you have this, like, fun, silly, goofy side to you.

[Morgan]

Yeah, I do.

[Unknown Host]

I enjoy watching all of your stuff that you post on social media. Makes me laugh. I'm like, oh, she's funny.

[Morgan]

Yeah. I'm, like, shy in the beginning, but then once you break my shelf in, I'm like, crazy.

[Unknown Host]

She can't be stopped. I love that. Okay, so we start each episode off with this jar. It's a game called Citrus Got Real. If you want to pull a little piece of paper out of there and read us that question.

[Morgan]

Let's see. I feel like I'm, like, secretive.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Okay, this question. Favorite vegetables?

[Unknown Host]

Okay, wait, that brings me to a topic that we were definitely going to talk about, because we'll get. We'll get to battle camp. But I need to know you don't eat food.

[Morgan]

Okay, I do eat food. I'm just so picky. I eat like a toddler. Like, I literally have, like, basic foods that you would feed. Like, your One year old, minus the vegetable portion portion of it. I'm like, cheese, I love bread. I love ranch. I love. Okay. But outside of that, like, you know, like, pizza and that sort of thing. But I'm like, it has bread and it has cheese.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Grilled cheese. Love. Mac and cheese. Love. Chips. Love. But it's, like, all the other things where it's like, oh, like coleslaw and, like, mashed potatoes.

[Unknown Host]

I'm like, no, the potato thing blows my mind. Like, do you eat French fries?

[Morgan]

I eat some French fries if it's, like, ones where it's, like, cut up and it's, like, bigger chunks and it's, like, basically just like, a potato. Like. But if it's, like, I'd say, like, chick fil a love their french fries. So it's, like, different types of them. I'll eat. I don't know. I have no idea. I, like, couldn't tell you. And it's not like, a texture thing necessarily. It's just. I just don't like it.

[Unknown Host]

What is your least favorite food?

[Morgan]

I would say ketchup and tomatoes. I'm, like, actually, like, terrified of ketchup. Like, won't even, like, touch the bottle at a restaurant. Like, if someone's, like, passing the ketchup, I'm like, you can get up and get it. I'm not touching it. And, like, even what. They put it on my tray. Like, they'll be like, oh, like, here's your food. And it's like, I get, like, a side of french fries, and they'll put ketchup on it, and they'll set it and bring it to me. I'm like, like, push it away. And my husband, like, grabs the ketchup and, like, takes it. Like, it's insane.

[Unknown Host]

Were you, like, forced to eat ketchup as a child?

[Morgan]

No. I don't even know where, like, some drava vine. I actually don't know where, like, the whole ketchup thing came from.

[Unknown Host]

But you like pizza?

[Morgan]

Yes, but I like certain types of, like, marinara sauce. But I also. If I have marinara sauce that has, like, tomatoes in it, I'll sit there and pick every single tomato out before I eat it. Chili. Pick every single tomato out before I eat it. It makes, like, literally no sense.

[Unknown Host]

Do you eat any greens?

[Morgan]

Not really. I like cucumbers.

[Unknown Host]

Okay. But there's some health to that. Just a little water.

[Morgan]

Yeah. Like, I like celery sometimes, like, if I'm eating, like, hot wings. Okay, I can have celery.

[Unknown Host]

Okay. But you can Do. Do you do, like, chicken and steak?

[Morgan]

Like, yes.

[Unknown Host]

For, like, protein.

[Morgan]

Yes. You do love chicken, love steak.

[Unknown Host]

Okay. Do you do fish?

[Morgan]

No. I hate any type of seafood. I've tried a lot. And that's my other thing is I'll try foods.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

And I'm like, I just don't like it. So I've had, like, octopus before. I've had, you know, squid, like, all these different things.

[Unknown Host]

I really like those.

[Morgan]

And I like, in tuna. Like, I just can't with tuna. Like, my cats eat tuna because it's in, like, their cat food. But I'm, like, literally dry heaving as I'm, like, feeding my cats. I'm like, I just can't do it.

[Unknown Host]

My husband's thing is he likes sushi but not cooked fish, which normally people like the cooked fish before they like the raw fish, but I. I love all of it. He has tried to get himself to, like, cooked fish, and he'll make me salmon all the time, which is great.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host]

Very, very kind. He's the. He's the chef, so he'll make. He'll make me salmon. And I'm like, it's so good. It doesn't taste. Because I even know, like, sometimes it'll taste fishy, but it doesn't bother me. I'm like, the other night I was like, hunt, like, I swear to you, like, it's not fishy. Like, just try it. And he tried it, and he was like, almost spit it out.

[Morgan]

He was like, no, I just can't. I don't know any type of fish. But also, if I know what it is, eating it, it makes it 15 times worse for me.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Like, I feel like if we would have done the challenge on the show, and I would have been blindfolded.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host]

Oh, for sure.

[Morgan]

Fear. I would have done a lot better because I wouldn't have known.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

But, like, knowing what it was, and I was, like, chewing, and I was like, oh, this is probably his eyeball. This is probably his stomach. Like, I was like. Like, I, like, could not. It was just awful.

[Unknown Host]

I. I was grossed out watching that. Okay, the first thing I want to touch on in this interview is your ring. Can you show the camera your ring? It's literally like, I actually need to, like, see it close up.

[Morgan]

My favorite thing of all existence.

[Unknown Host]

It's. Did you get it, like, glued together?

[Morgan]

No. So you can get it soldered. Here, I'll show you glued.

[Unknown Host]

That. Soldered was the correct word.

[Morgan]

Yeah. So it's. I mean, it's really on there, but it's like my engagement ring is, like, inside of it, so it's like two different pieces. Oh, wow. And then you can, like, push it together, but most people get it soldered together.

[Unknown Host]

Oh, wow.

[Morgan]

But I can just wear just my engagement ring, like, if I don't want to wear, like, because it gets caught on, like, literally everything.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

So if I don't want to wear the whole thing, but it just, like, goes right inside of me.

[Unknown Host]

Was that your. Was that you're doing or how did the ring process happen?

[Morgan]

Yeah. So actually, Molly was in on this, so obviously, I didn't know I was getting engaged. We looked at different types of rings and that sort of a thing. And I kind of, like, had an idea. I did not like the marquis cut at all.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Until I went and tried on rings. Yeah. I was like, I'm gonna be a round girl, maybe oval.

[Unknown Host]

How happens? I was the same thing, but opposite set on it.

[Morgan]

I was like, there's no other way. Like, you can't convince me otherwise. Like, I just want to go and, like, see? And, like, I knew I wanted gold because I'm a gold girly.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

And so we go into K jewelers, and I'm, like, testing, like, all the different, like, sizes and shapes and, like, all the things. And the lady was like, oh, you should just try, like, marquise and emerald and all this stuff. And I was like, no, I just want oval. I just want this. And she's like, no, just try it. You never know till you try. So I tried on, and I was like, oh, my God, this is it. And I'm, like, looking at stone, and he's like, the look on your face. I'm screwed. I'm so screwed. And I'm just like, okay. I'm like, I have to have it. I have to have it. Obviously, I didn't think we'd get engaged soon. Soon after that. But he was like, okay. She likes murky. She likes murky. And he likes murky. So then he basically kind of, like, designed it with K, which was insane. And took, like, elements, because I like, different parts of, like, wedding bands and stuff as well.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

And I loved, like, the halo around it. Like, I was just like, I love it. I was like, and more diamonds. So, like, might as well.

[Unknown Host]

Why not?

[Morgan]

So kind of just like, piece together different parts of it and just created it. And then when it came to the wedding band, I knew I wanted, like, you know, a band, but, like, the way that my ring is shaped on the bottom is, like, curved. So, like, If I put a band on, it would stick, like, right on the top. So it wouldn't fit.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

So they had to like, customize the whole thing. And like, my OCD was like, I can't just have like one side of it.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Has to go on the other side because then it's like not symmetrical and it's driving me nuts.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

So it's like basically fully customized.

[Unknown Host]

It is so pretty. That was like, when I was looking through your social media, that was one thing. I was like, oh, my gosh, I have to get a close up of this ring because it looks unreal. How did you and your husband meet?

[Morgan]

So we met online. Okay. Yes. And basically I ended up bringing two of my best friends on our first date.

[Unknown Host]

Okay.

[Morgan]

Because I'm like, you know, people are creepy. You never know. Like, first dates. I've never been on one my whole entire life. So he was my first date. Which is actually insane because other people that I dated in like, high school and like, college, I knew from being friends with friends of friends and hung out with them multiple times. And then we go on a date.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

I'd never been on a first date where I'd never met the person.

[Unknown Host]

And you like, on a dating app or was it like, okay, got it.

[Morgan]

So I was like, straight panic mode. Like, how do you interact with someone? Like, how do you do this? Like, I'm like, what? Like, what do we do? What do we talk about? I'm like, I don't know. So we'd been like, messaging, you know, back and forth. And I didn't give him, like, any, like, social media, not a lot of information about myself because at this time, Cheer, it already came out on social, like, on the world.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Cheer was here and I was like, I don't. Like, some people had messaged me and, like, wanted to, like, you know, start talking to me and stuff because they were fans of me on Cheer, like, for the followers and like, all that stuff. So I was trying to find someone that was genuine, that wanted to be with me because I was me.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

And so I did not give Stone any information, like, about, like, what I did or anything. And kind of like, basically blocked him on all social media so he couldn't, like, figure out, like, who I was. So we just were messaging and we went. On our first date, I brought two of my best friends with me. Cause I was like, he could be a serial killer. He could kidnap me. Like, you never know. So I bring two of my friends. Our first day ended up being like, 17, 18 hours long. We went to a restaurant. We sat and ate there. My two friends were there. We ended up going back to my apartment that I had in Dallas at the time and sat up on the rooftop and talked until the sun started rising. And my friends ended up leaving after a while, they're like, are you good? I'm like, yeah, I'm good. Like, you're fine. You can leave. And then he's like, I work in 30 minutes. Like, I've got to go. And I was like, wait, that's crazy. And I was like, okay, well, it was nice to meet you. And he's like, no. Like, can we hang out tomorrow? And I'm like, yes. We've been together every single day since then.

[Unknown Host]

Oh, my God.

[Morgan]

Which is insane. And then, you know, he kind of found out who I was on social media. But it was nice for him to get to know me before. That was like, yeah. Brought up in conversation. Because I'm like, it's weird. It's like, how do you explain.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

You know. Oh, yeah. I was on, like a Netflix show. And they're like, wait, what? And I'm like, it's kind of a lot.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, I could imagine that would be tricky. How long ago was that?

[Morgan]

I want to say like, 2022.

[Unknown Host]

Okay. And you guys are coming up on two years.

[Morgan]

Two years of marriage.

[Unknown Host]

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[Morgan]

I don't know. I just love all of it. Everyone's like, your first year is going to be hard and all this stuff. And I'm like, it's not.

[Unknown Guest]

Yep.

[Morgan]

I was like, I don't know what you guys are talking about. And, like, all this, like, you know, marital advice we'd get from people, like, before we got married there. I'm like. I'm like, I don't know what you guys mean. Like, this is, like, the easiest thing ever. Like, yeah, I love living life with him. He's my best friend. Like, life is great. Married life is fantastic. I'm like, everything's good.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, I know. We had a lot of people tell us that, too, and it never. It never got hard. And we have this joke where wherever, whenever we, like, get in an argument, we're like, oh, I guess the tough parts come and the tough parts go.

[Morgan]

In, but it's not.

[Unknown Host]

And it's been fine. But I know I've always, like. I always say that I think it's because we, like, went. I feel like we went through a lot of, like, tough times together because I worked as a Covid nurse and, like, did all of that, and my husband went through a lot of mental health stuff. We kind of, like, I feel like, went through, like, the weeds together before we got married. I feel like that kind of, like, helped a little bit. Like, we knew how to communicate. We knew how the other communicated.

[Morgan]

Yes. And that's the other thing, too, is, like, we basically lived together before we got married.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Which a lot of people are like, oh, no, don't do that. All the things I was like, I was paying so much for my apartment in Dallas, and so was he. Where I'm like, we're basically, like, with each other every single day 24 7. We're. We're paying these two apartments. And I was like, there's no point in that. Like, we could literally get a house for.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Like, pay a mortgage for less than what we're paying for these apartments.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

So we ended up moving in together and I feel like that was like the easiest transition into marriage. Everyone's like, oh, no. Like, does he leave his toothpaste open? Does he do this? Does he close the toilet? Like, all the things. And I feel like living with him before that made it so that there wasn't that awkward transition into, like, living together.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, no, that was us too. I feel like it's important to, like, I mean, I commend people that can do it successfully before because I think there is. I think there is beauty in, you know, waiting to live together and there is pros that come with it. But I think for me and Taylor in our relationship, that was something that I'm very thankful for because we definitely just like worked.

[Morgan]

You get to see what the other.

[Unknown Host]

Person is like at home, how they like how they live. I mean, we were. I mean, I was young. I met when we were. I. I met him when I was 20. So like we've been. Wait. Like I didn't really like, live on my own, like have an established, like, self independent life, but he did. And so, you know, bringing me in and having that transition, I feel like we definitely got to do together. I love asking married people this, but what was your favorite part of your wedding? Where did you get married?

[Morgan]

So I got married in Texas.

[Unknown Host]

Okay.

[Morgan]

Yes.

[Unknown Host]

Photos are so pretty.

[Morgan]

At the Olana, I was like, this is like a castle, like, dream venue. I was like, I love it. I don't know. I had so many favorite parts. Like, I think, like, overall, as like a whole, I think the best part obviously was marrying my best friend.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

But having all of our favorite people in the same place at the exact same time.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Like, it was like all of our worlds were colliding. Like, he had, you know, friends that he did sports with. I had all my cheer friends. We had like, you know, our cousins, like second cousins, aunts, uncles, like, friends, like people that were mentors to us. Like, we just had all the people that like, played like a massive role in our life in the same place at the same time.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

It's like the odds of that happening, like, is slim to none. Like, even like celebrating like birthdays and that sort of a thing. It's like, you know, you have some friends that can't make it or whatever, but every single person was there.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

That was like the craziest thing.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

So I'd say that or the cheer routine was pretty iconic.

[Unknown Host]

Yes.

[Morgan]

I feel like that was a fun moment. And then I would say our private Vows before our wedding.

[Unknown Host]

Okay.

[Morgan]

That was, like, I was, like, sobbing my eyes out before, like, anything. But it made me feel so much better, like, walking down the aisle. Cause I, like, don't like attention.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

So I was like, I don't know how to, like, do I smile at people? Do I, like, wave? Like, I'm like, I want to, like, hug people because I haven't seen you in forever, but I'm like, I don't know what to do.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

So it, like, eased my nerves before walking down the aisle. And then our private last dance was, like, a very, very special moment as well.

[Unknown Host]

Oh, it was just you guys for your little lessons.

[Morgan]

Like, they, like, sent everyone out to, like, the sparklers and all that stuff, and we just, like, the whole room was cleared out. Like, photographers, like, were there for, like, you know, 30 seconds. Like, took one picture.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

And it was just us.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

And so it was like, the whole, like, you had, like, all these, like, strobe lights going off. You know, there's just a mess everywhere. Like, and then it's just our song playing, and we're just, like, in the moment, like, oh, my gosh. Like, we're married. Like, this is crazy.

[Unknown Host]

Oh, my gosh.

[Morgan]

So that is so, so sentimental.

[Unknown Host]

I love that. Okay. I want to get into your childhood and your upbringing, because I feel like looking at you, you just seem like the cutest, sweetest. Like, you just seem like the sweetest person. And I feel like you are genuinely that sweet. But I would never think that you've endured the life that you have with how you present yourself and how kind you are to people. But I would love if you can just share a little bit about your early childhood years with our Lemon Drops, our listeners, about what life was like for you.

[Morgan]

Yes. So, I mean, growing up, like. I mean, my life wasn't awful, terrible, but I did face, like, a lot of challenges. But I feel like everything that I went through growing up, like, made me where I am today. So I wouldn't have changed anything in my past, wouldn't have done anything differently, because I am who I am today because of it, which is fantastic. And it's nice to have, like, you know, like, those learning lessons. I did have to grow up a lot faster than most people did, but in the same, you know, time, it's like, I'm more wiser, I'm more mature, and, like, I really value life differently than some other people do. And I'm like, I wouldn't change that for anything. So I don't know. It's just, like, different being so young and not having, like, that support system, because those are, like, I feel like, the prime time in your life where it's like, you need the love, you need the support. Like.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

And that's like, I don't know, like, prime, like, development, I'd say, for, like, that sort of stuff. And so I was lacking in that. But then once I got into custody with my grandparents, you know, my whole world flipped upside down. Like, everything was positive, everything was good. So it was like, it sucked growing up. And it was like, why me? Why me? Why is this happening to me? Like, no one loves me. Like, don't really have friends. Like, all the things I was like, what's wrong with me? Like, what am I doing that's so bad that people don't want to be around me? They keep leaving. Like, what did I do? So I'd, like, hurt myself on it all the time. And, like, it would even happen in, like, sports, like, after that and, like, different parts of my life. Like, if a friend, like, you know, wasn't being a true friend and, like, our, you know, connection broke off, I'd be like, what did I do? Like, why am I in the wrong? Like, what did I do? Like, how can I fix this? Like, I would just harp on myself for it because of my past. There's, like, parts of it that, like, suck still.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

And it's also, like, not really having, like, parents, I guess you'd say. Everyone's like, oh, like, how's your mom and dad? I'm like, oh, my grandparents are doing good. It's always, like, the little things or, like, you know, thinking of, like, your father walking you down the aisle one day. Like, I knew that that wasn't the case, but I knew I had my grandfather to step in that place. So it was, like, little things that, like, would bug me, but it's, like, made me who I am today. So I'm, like, so grateful for the opportunity to be able to share my story and, like, have other people that can, like, relate to it. And, like, some people are inspired by it, but I'm like, it's just how it is. And I'm like, I don't want people to ever feel alone in any situation like that.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host]

Can you share with us a little bit about your parents before your grandparents stepped in? What was your relationship with them? What was their involvement? Yes.

[Morgan]

So I didn't really have the best relationship. I mean, there were a lot of kids that were involved from different marriages and all the Things, So I didn't really have the best relationship with them. But, you know, my grandparents, like, are my parents in a sense. So it's like, I still had parents and, like, you know, guardians and, like, people to look up to, but I didn't really have communication with them and still don't really have communication with them.

[Unknown Host]

Okay. When were your grandparents always in the picture or did four parts?

[Morgan]

Yeah. So they had no idea what was happening. When we were younger, they weren't as involved, which was not their fault whatsoever. Yeah, they did live kind of far away from us, so it wasn't, you know, we see them all the time type of a thing. They still would support us and, like, go to, like, you know, track meets when I was little and, like, all those different things.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

But they had no idea. Like, in, like, the prime time of everything that happened in my life, they had no idea. So then after the fact, it was like, a shock factor to them. But they've always, like, been, like, the best people ever. Like, I remember my papa would, like, you know, come and he would just, like, bring me a bag of, like, Cheetos or something every time he'd see me or bring me, like, a Powerade to, like, attract me. And I just, like, oh, my gosh. Like, you're the best. You know, all the different things.

[Unknown Host]

But, yeah, I love that. I feel like that's such a common thing to, like, remember that about your grandparents. Like, I remember my nana, whenever I'd stay with her, she'd always get. Would always give me a Sprite. Yes, I love Sprite. But she had, like, the cute, like, mini cans. And I just, like, so vividly remember.

[Morgan]

It, like, sticks with you.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host]

I don't know.

[Morgan]

The craziest thing.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, it's a very, like, shared thing that I love.

[Morgan]

It's like, the sense of their house, too. Like, I can, like, like, think of their house, and I can't describe the smell, but, like, I know what the smell is.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, it's, like, the craziest. Exactly. Whose parents are they? Your dad's parents.

[Morgan]

Dad's parents.

[Unknown Host]

Okay. Yes. When was your mom always in the picture or.

[Morgan]

Not so much. She. I mean, I grew up, obviously. It was like. I want to say joint custody. So we would see her, like, every once in a while.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

And then there just became a point where, like, we didn't see her. Don't really know the full reasoning behind it, but then she just wasn't really in the picture. And then we tried to reconnect with her a Couple of times. And, you know, just wasn't in the best interest of us at the time.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

So then after that, we really haven't rekindled or reconnected or anything.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host]

Was that hard, trying to, like, reconnect with her and maybe being met with.

[Morgan]

Yes, it's hard because there's so many working parts in it, and it's like, so many different sides, so many different things where it's like, I will never, like, judge someone based off of what I've heard about them. I will take everything at face value.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

So for me, it's like, I could hear, you know, crazy things, and I'm just like, I am going to, like, do this, like, and learn them in their heart, like, on my own terms, like.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

So that's kind of like how I took it. And it's just. I don't know, it's just hard. It's just a tricky situation sometimes.

[Unknown Guest]

But, yeah.

[Unknown Host]

Did I read that you lived by yourself?

[Morgan]

Yes, I lived by myself for a short period of time. And how old were you? I was in high school, so I was like. It was my, like, my sophomore junior year.

[Unknown Host]

Ish. How. How did that come to be?

[Morgan]

I don't know. There was just a lot of working parts within our family where my brother, he was living with me, and he made a decision for himself, and I fully respect it. He was like, I'm gonna try and do something for myself and do my thing, and it's not on him whatsoever. So I feel like it was just, like, the timing of it was. It just was what it was. And so I ended up being on my own. My dad was with my stepmother at the time and their other children, and it was just me. And then my grandparents found out about it, and then that's when, you know, everything started spinning and twirling and then ended up just with them.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, did. Because I know you lived by yourself for a period of time. Did you not. Did you not want to burden anyone? Did you not feel like you could go to anyone to say, hey, could I live with you? Like, what. What were those emotions for you?

[Morgan]

Yes. So I didn't feel like I could talk to anyone about it. I feel like it was, like, not, like, embarrassing, but, like, I don't know, like, in your high school years. Like, it's always, like, people, like, comparing themselves and their lifestyles and everything, and I just, like, didn't want to be a burden to anyone. I don't. I don't really talk about, like, the hard things. Like, I Just will bottle it in until I just erupt one day.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

And it's like my worst toxic trait. But I'm like, it is true.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

So I feel like whenever that was happening, I couldn't talk to people about it. I couldn't bring it up. But I also, like, didn't know how to or what to do. But I had a counselor, and she was very aware of me and Wyatt's situation growing up. And I still remember her to this day. I'm like, I'm not gonna say her name. Cause I'm like, I don't know if she would want to be out there or not, but she was the kindest, sweetest soul ever. Like, still somewhat stay in contact with her every once in a while. Once in a blue moon, we'll message her. But she was very aware of our situation, was very supportive of it, and helped in so many different ways. And then other people that I did know growing up, I would go and, like, stay with them, or, like, I'd go to their house and, like, eat dinner and, like, you know, be able to feel like I was living, like, a normal life and not so isolated, but also, at the same time, I was fine being by myself.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Like, I felt like it was, like, kind of, like, clarity for me, in a sense, where it was like, I mean, I didn't have any rules, I didn't have any expectations. Like, I just did my own thing. But that's why I'm such a rule follower to this day is because I didn't have that. But I had the expectation on myself of, like, all these different things. So I didn't. I don't know, I didn't have to worry about certain things. Like, I was always going to school, was always on time. Like, no, I didn't have food on the table ever. And like, no. How was I going to pay the bills and do all these different things?

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

So it was, like, difficult. But at the same time, like, I was okay. Like, I was gonna make it. I was gonna figure it out. Like, I knew that something good was gonna happen. I didn't know what. I didn't know how to explain it, but I was like, I know I'm gonna be okay. Which is weird.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host]

Wow. So then when your grandparents took you in, was that. I imagine there was a sense of relief. Yes.

[Morgan]

With that, I literally was just, like, huge weight lifted off my chest. And I was like, this is it. Like, we're safe, we're good, we're, like, happy. Like, and this is, like, Going to be the start of like your new life, basically. Like, this is like where it all begins.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host]

Were they privy at all to like, I can't imagine them learning that you were on your own and then being like, what? Like just being stunned. Like, were they privy at all to anything that was going on in the home that made you and your brother leave?

[Morgan]

No. So they, I feel like they didn't really know a lot of the things that were happening behind closed doors, basically.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

I mean, all the things, you know, it is like on social media, like everything seems like a highlight reel and that sort of a thing. So like that's, I feel like the sense that they were getting.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

So like they just had no idea. But then once they, you know, found out, it was like, I don't know, like they just did everything in the correct ways and got like temporary custody of me so that I could be with them. And I would carry this paper around to school all the time where it said that they had temporary custody in case anything were to happen. And I would like guard that paper with my life. I'm like, it was like on me 24 7, like, did not go anywhere without it. And then once I was with them, I was like, we're good and this is gonna be amazing.

[Unknown Host]

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[Morgan]

Honestly, I cannot even give you a time date. Like, what was happened, what was said? I feel like the hard part was, is like I kind of like block out parts because I'm like, it's just easier for me to not have to deal with it. Does that make sense? So I feel like I could not tell you, like the last conversation that I had the last time I saw them, but the last thing was said. But I'm also like, I'm okay with that.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

It's like my way of, like coping with it, I guess, in a way.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host]

I mean, yeah, that's definitely a very common trauma response, but it seems like it's almost working to your advantage sometimes it's not healthy and maybe there's some unhealthy things under there, but I feel like, I feel like that's a very common thing when I sit down with people and they're like, I actually don't remember parts of my life because I feel like I'm the same way. My husband's the same way. He's like, yeah, I blocked out like four years of my life. I literally can't.

[Morgan]

But it's like, I don't know, it's weird because it's like easier to like, cope with it, I feel like. Which is odd to say because it's like, I don't know, like, obviously childhood, like, there's parts of it where I'm like, oh, yeah, this seemed like it was good and, you know, certain things and whatever. But I'm like, I could not fully explain all the details.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

And also I was so young where it's like, I don't know, a lot of the things that did happen or like, you know, situations or like, you know, what the adults were talking about versus, like, Me as a kid, seeing it from my perspective. So it's, like, difficult to try to piece everything together. Where it's like, in a sense, to me, I'm like, I've moved past it. Where it's like, I don't need to go back and put all these puzzle pieces together and figure it out and the reasonings and all the things. I'm like, it just is what it is, and it's happened, so I can't change anything. So just move on from it.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host]

Good for you for that. You touched on it a little bit. I'm curious how your upbringing, how you see it coming out and affecting, like, your relationships with people.

[Morgan]

Yes. So I feel like. I don't know, I've learned a lot from what I went through, like, what I went through. So I feel like by going through what I did, I just respect, you know, relationships more. Like, the relationship I have with my grandparents. Like, every relationship I have now is so intentional. And, like, I just will give a million percent to anyone that's around me. Like, regardless if it feels like it's hurting me or making me feel like. Like, you know, I'm exhausted, I'm tired. I'm. This. I will still, no matter what, give a million percent to everyone else around me. So it's like the positive that came from it. But then there's sometimes where I'm like, I can't say no to people. Like, I cannot say no whatsoever, no matter what the situation is. So that's, like, my downfall of it is I always just have to say yes to situations.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host]

I feel that. I'm curious. What. What does, like, healing look like for you now? Like, what do you feel like? I mean, obviously that whole upbringing is a big thing to overcome, but I'm curious, you know, taking a look inward at yourself, maybe with, like, what you're most proud of for healing or what's been, like, the biggest thing you feel like you've had to overcome.

[Morgan]

I don't know. I just feel like learning through it and, like, taking it and not using it as a negative and being like, oh, like, poor me. Like, this happened to me. This happened to me. This happened to me. And using it as, like, an excuse, like, flipping it more into a positive. Like, I always see things as the positive in life.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

But I feel like by taking things that I went through and learning and growing from them and applying them into, like, you know, how I want to parent one day or how I want to, you know, raise a family, like, all these different things and like, even, like, having relationships with people, I'm like, the fact that I've learned and grown from it has helped me, like, overcome what it was like. Instead of, like, sitting there and dwelling on it, I just take it and, like, flip it into a positive and, like, apply the good parts of what I've learned from it into real life.

[Unknown Host]

That's so good. Do you want kids?

[Morgan]

Yes. Not yet.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

But I do want kids.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host]

Is there something that you're looking forward to with kids or maybe like, a way you want to parent them or something you don't want to do? Something you do. I mean, I'm sure you can list things you don't want to do, but something that you're like, oh, when I'm a parent, I definitely, like, want to make sure I do this is.

[Morgan]

I just want to be very, like, supportive. Like, I don't want to be like, you know, overbearing mom, you know, like all, you know, over the top type of a person. But I want them to know, like, they can come and talk to me about anything. Like, I'm their biggest support system. Like, even if they think I'll be mad about a situation, like, I'd rather you come tell me. And like, you know, I want to be that person for you where you feel like you're in a safe space and you can say anything to. And that's like, my going to be my main goal, like, when I do become a parent. But also I'm just excited to have, like, a mini, like, me in stone, like, running around. Like, that's just the craziest thought. It's gonna be either like, you know, five foot or, like, you know, foot. So got a huge height difference. But just having, like, someone that's like, you know, you and your partner is like the craziest concept to me, where I'm like, so excited for it.

[Unknown Host]

I know. I feel like we're finally at the age where, like, that's like, happening, like, that will happen soon. And it's like a crazy concept to, like, think, yeah, I've always, like, I've always wanted to be a mom, but now that it's like, actually, like, the.

[Morgan]

Time is coming here, basically. I feel that.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, I'm like.

[Morgan]

I'm like, am I ready? Am I not ready? But I'm like, you can never fully be prepared for a child for sure.

[Unknown Host]

When did you start cheering?

[Morgan]

So I started when I was super young, but it was a smaller program, was not the same competitiveness that there was at, like, Navarro College.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

So I did a little bit when I was younger and then when I moved to Wyoming, they didn't really have cheer there.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

But I had a lot of like self taught skills and like, you know, I could just throw a backflip in the grass just for fun.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

And do cartwheels and stuff during like, you know, other sports. Like during track I'm like doing cartwheels and backflips when I should be running.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

So I just like always had that like drive into me to be the cheerleader and I was like, I just love it. Like I love flipping my body. It's like a cool like party trick. All the things.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

But then like took a huge break obviously. And then in college I was like, I want to be a cheerleader. Like, I want to be a cheerleader in college. So I actually went to University of Wyoming my first year.

[Unknown Host]

Wait, I'm sorry, you didn't. I. I'm shocked right now. You haven't been doing this your entire life?

[Morgan]

No.

[Unknown Host]

What?

[Morgan]

Yeah, I did it when I was young for a little bit. And then you took a break from it for a few years. And then I ran cross country and track and played basketball, but I still like flipped on the sides like my text.

[Unknown Host]

Are you.

[Morgan]

My technique is awful.

[Unknown Host]

Crazy. Okay.

[Morgan]

Self taught. It's like ghetto cheer. But I still did it.

[Unknown Host]

Oh my gosh. Okay. So sorry. Keep going. You did cheer at Wyoming?

[Morgan]

Yes.

[Unknown Host]

Okay.

[Morgan]

Because there weren't any like cheer programs like in Wyoming. Like there was like gymnastics gyms, but they were also like hours and hours away from us. And then the closest cheer like place that I could do competitive cheer out was in Denver, Colorado. And I wanted to go there so bad, but it was so expensive, we couldn't afford it, so. And it didn't make sense to drive, you know, seven hours to go to cheer practice. Like, that's just not realistic. So I just didn't do any sort of cheer. And then in college I was like, I want to be a cheerleader. Like, I'm going to go to University of Wyoming. I'm going to, you know, try out for the cheer team. Tried out for the cheer team. Made it. And it was more like game day cheer. It wasn't the competitiveness that I had like the drive for.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

So I went for my first semester and then ended up leaving after that.

[Unknown Host]

Got it.

[Morgan]

And then I told my grandparents, I was like, I still want to cheer. I still want to share someone cheer. Like if you're going to go somewhere like that's cheering. Like, you need to go somewhere where they, you know, know what they're doing and, like, yeah, you know, all the things. So I was like, okay. So I Googled best places to cheer in the United States of America. Navarro College pops up. I watch a video, and I was like, I'm going there. I'm going there. So I go on their website. I'm, like, looking up their Instagram.

[Unknown Host]

I'm so shocked by the story right.

[Morgan]

Now, all the details, trying to figure out, like. Like, where it's at. Like, all the information. I'm like, okay, it's a junior college. Like, this. All these different things. Because I'm like, I'm still, like, technically first year of college. So I was like, oh, my gosh. Like, I can, you know, go in and, like, it'll be cheaper for me. Like, I can still do financial aid, like, all the things. And they had a tryout or a clinic that was coming up. So I go to my grandparents, and I'm like, hey, so there is this college that I really want to go to. It's called Navarro College. Um, it's in Texas. Shocker. And they're like, you're going to Texas? And I was like, well, it's like, go, like, to this clinic. Just, like, test it out and, like, see, you know. You know, everyone else is a better cheerleader to me, but I'm going to test it out anyways. So I begged them. Begged and begged them. My pop ends up driving me down to Texas from Wyoming, and we go to this clinic, and I am terrible. I'm awful. I can't do any skills compared to all the other people that were there. They all cheered it, like, cheer athletics and had been doing competitive cheer since they were, like, six.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Like, every single year, like, the highest level that you can compete at at their age division. And I was so intimidated. I was like, I suck. I'm awful. Like, all these different things. Like, I'm, like, still trying to, like, learn how to do stunts there. And, like, yeah, I'm having, like, the best time. At the same time, though, I'm like, this is so cool. Like, I watched you guys on videos. Like, you guys are iconic. Like, this is crazy. And so then they're like, oh, yeah, like, come, we have a tryout at this date. Whatever, Sonny, come back for the tryout. And I'm, like, talking to Monica at the end of it. My tryout was awful. I literally. I don't. I didn't fall in my trial, but I just literally did the most Basic skill. I did like a toss target or like a full up. And then like an arabesque that was like, so ratchet. And then try to do a double down. And it was just ankles, like, crossed. Just literally awful. If I were to watch that back now, I would probably, like, laugh, cry at myself.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

And it was just an awful tryout. And I, like, never wore my church shoes outside. It was like a weird thing I did. I. For the longest time, I was like, like, their inside shoes, like, they stay in pristine condition, all the things. I walked out of the tryout and my grandma was with me. We had flown down for the tryout, and I walked out with my chair shoes on, and she was like, oh, no, this is not good. Like, she probably didn't make it. Like, something happened. And I was like, I didn't make the team because I was so, so, so intimidated by all the people that were there because they were so phenomenal. And I'm like, watching them do, like, all these crazy transitions and all these crazy stunts that I had never done ever in my life. So I was like, yeah, I'm not making the team. So I go back home. And there was like, a couple months before we got, like, you know, the letter in your email saying that you made it or you didn't make it. So at this point, I still am waiting around, still not hearing anything. So I made plans to go to a different college. And I was like, you know, doing all the paperwork to get, like, accepted into the school. Because I was like, I don't think I'm going to make Navarro. Like, there's no way one day get an email that. Well, I didn't get an email. I had messaged Monica on email, and I was like, hey, I just didn't get an email. Like, you know, it's either a yes or a no. Like, I didn't get either. So I was like, oh. Like, I did. I just want to know if it's a no so I can make my other plans. And she was like, oh, my gosh. Well, actually, we forgot to send it to you. Like, you're on the team. Like, we have camp in like a month. And I'm like, I made Navarro. Like, I didn't get, like, the official email where it's like, you are Navarro College cheerleader for the season or whatever. I didn't get that email. I just got, oh, my gosh. Yeah, like, we actually did select you. You're on the team. You're on the list. Like, we have camp in a month. So I'm like, oh, my God, my life is crazy. Like, this is not real. So then I'm, like, going shopping to get, like, sports bras that are red and, like, spandex that are red. Like, trying to, like, be, like, this girl. I'm like, oh, my gosh. Iconic. So then I go down, go to the camp, and then end up starting school in Navarro. And then that's how they started filming cheer. They just came to film, like, the proof of concept. And then from that point on, I just. Was at Navarro. Learned millions and millions of skills. Like. Like, I don't even. Can't even comprehend how I gained the skills that I did so quick.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

I just, like, didn't have the fear of, like, trying anything. I was like, let's just flip our body and see how this. See how this goes.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, that's like. Yeah. You really had no fear, because that is insane that you. I don't know. I can't remember if you said that. But knowing the skills that you can do, like, and hearing this whole story.

[Morgan]

My mind is, like, nowadays, can't really do that much. But, like, I'm retired. My body hurts.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

But I could probably still do a backflip if I, like, Matt. Talked myself enough to.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, I think you could. I think you could. What was it like when the docu series came out? And I'm sure there was, like, a big influx of.

[Morgan]

It was insane.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

I. That was actually not, like, a very bad low for me, but I was not taking care of myself whatsoever. My mental health was plummeting, which was so crazy because it was such, like, a highlight in my life.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

But I. There's no, like, textbook on how to, like, adapt to being in the public eye. You don't get, you know, a book handed to you, and it's like, hey, this is how to deal with it and all. Like, I did not have a manual.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

So I just basically got thrown to the sharks, and I'm, like, trying to figure it out. Like, I'm getting all these, like, followers, and, like, I'm flying to LA and I'm flying to New York, and I'm still going to school at Navarro and Texas A and M at the exact same time. So I'm doing double school. I'm doing all these interviews, still have cheer practice. I'm like, how do I manage all these different working parts?

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

So it was, like, overload. Like, was not, like, eating meals during the day. Cause I just didn't have the time. So I literally drank, like, Five energy drinks during a single day just so I could be prepped and ready for, like, an interview or have enough energy to flip my body at practice or, like, stay up to, like, finish homework assignments. Like, it was psychotic. So it was a very huge adjustment.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

But I don't know, it's like one of those things where you just, like, learn and like, adapt and like, then it's good.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host]

What was your relationship with social media during that time? Because I imagine having that, all of that noise coming to you from social media.

[Morgan]

It was insane. I cried so much. I basically never cry. I'm like, I feel like me crying is, like, showing too much emotion for myself. I just will bottle it. I'm like, I save it for my pillow.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

But I cried every single day, I feel like, because I would get messages of people saying that they were in similar situations as me or that they have related to me or knew someone and like, all these different things. And, like, I would just break down crying at, like, the stories that I was hearing. And like, people have been like, I've really connected to your story. Like, it's really, like, resonated with me. Or it's helping me get through the situation I'm in now. Or I'm just like, sobbing my eyes out. I'm like, I can't explain, like, the feelings that I had because I'm like, I feel like I'm helping people. And I was like, I didn't know that that would have that effect. Like, I didn't know that, like, sharing my story and being so vulnerable was going to help people. Where I was just like, a complete mess. Like, could not process, like, emotions, thoughts. Like, yeah, it was just like, so wild. So it was like a healthy relationship with it at that point.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Because it's like, you know, you're seeing all these people and, like, how you're like, helping them and like, you know how your life is, like, making a difference in other people's. I was like, this is insane. But also it's cool because I was like, oh, my gosh, I'm getting like, likes and followers. And like, people are like, you're pretty. Like, you're getting like all these, like, nice comments. And then, you know, a few years later you get like, the mean comments like, oh, you're wearing a baggy sweatshirt because you're gaining weight. And like all this stuff where I'm like, okay, whatever. Yeah, so don't have like any negativity sorts towards social media anymore.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

But it was like a difficult adjustment. From going to literally nothing to having a million followers in like three days. It was like night and day difference.

[Unknown Host]

Geez, that's so sweet that you got to have like that tenor moment with all those messages.

[Morgan]

Yeah. It's insane. And I have screenshots of all of them, like, literally still saved in my camera roll from, like, all those.

[Unknown Host]

That's so smart. I feel like we talk about so much, which I think we should, like, having boundaries, social media and you know, the harm it can cause because I do think there is detriment to it because our brains aren't supposed to have that much going to it all the time. But on the other end, like, with this podcast, like, the amount of people that will come up to me and be like, tell me that this podcast saved their life. And like, it's just mind blowing to me. Like, I have chill saying it. It's so cool that, that, you know, us sitting here today, like, this is going to help someone. Like, all we're doing is we're just talking. Like, we're just sharing our life. And you know, that's the crazy part.

[Morgan]

Though, is like, I don't know, like, it's. It's hard because some people, like, for social media, for example, a lot of people see it as like the highlight reels of people's lives.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Which that's what it is. Like, I'm not going to post a picture that I don't think I look good in. Yeah, I'm gonna post a picture. I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm eating. Like, that's fierce. I love that. So I'm going to post all this stuff and people are going to see it, but they're going to see the highlights. They're not going to see me, you know, cleaning out my cat's litter box. They're not going to see me doing, like, certain things where it's like the highlight reel. So that's where people start comparing themselves to others. And, like, that's where the toxic part of social media comes into play, which is, like, so different. But having, like, stuff where it's like, real and raw and like, just showing, like, the different sides of you. I'm like, now I post pictures and I don't even edit a single photo.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Like, there'll be pictures where someone will post a picture and it's like, like full edited and then my version's unedited.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Because I'm like, it's just real and raw. Like, you know, when I look down in the road, like at some of the pictures. I'm like, that filter was so bad. I'm like, why did I do that? And I'm like, I whiten my teeth so much. That's insane.

[Unknown Host]

Literally, I had to, like, archive some of the photos on my Instagram from a while ago because I'm like, what? Like, what even was I thinking with this filter?

[Morgan]

Like, I thought I was eating, but it was just a trend at the time.

[Unknown Host]

At the time, we were.

[Morgan]

At the time.

[Unknown Host]

At the time, we were eating. Now maybe not so much.

[Morgan]

I take it back.

[Unknown Host]

Were you scared at all, sharing about your personal life?

[Morgan]

Terrified.

[Unknown Host]

Okay.

[Morgan]

I was so scared. And, like, I remember having conversations with Greg about it. And, like, at first, when he first started talking to me, like, we didn't know I was going to be, like, a main character. I didn't really have, like, that thought until, like, it got very close to cheer airing, because then they would, like, go home with people and film at their hometowns, and I was, like, having these conversations to all these interviews with them, and they would ask me all these questions, and I would just, like, like, dodge it, you know, they'd be like, so, like, you know, tell us about this. And I'd just be like, yeah, cheer practice day was really hard. And, you know, I'm, like, avoiding it. And so then I had a heart tour with Greg and was just, like, explaining to him, like, my story.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

And he's like, just go in there and just say the same thing you said to me. And I'm like, I just feel like I'm gonna be judged. Like, I feel like it's a part of me that, like, I've hidden for so long. And, like, people like me on this cheer team, like, people are, you know, I have friends now. Like, I have, like, a good life where I don't want to, like, bring that up and make people think of me differently. I was terrified of what other people were going to think. And then, you know, flip side of it, it's like, people didn't think that. It was, like, the complete opposite, where I was like, I hit it forever. Like, was so embarrassed by it. Like, didn't want to share it, didn't want anyone to know about it. And now it's like, the world knows, but it's, like, helping others where I was like, I would have never in a million years would have thought sharing my story would have done that, but I was terrified. Terrified.

[Unknown Host]

That's so special because that's clearly something. Like, even when you were in high school, like, going through it you didn't want people to know of your home situation. And that's really awesome that you know. Well, it's not awesome that it carried with you, but that that carried with you. And then you got to share your story and how the response has been to that. Do you feel like you've, like, overcome that feeling of wanting to hide that?

[Morgan]

Yes, I feel like. Like, at first I obviously was so scared, but now it's like seeing how you can relate to people and, like, can help them get through tough situations or, like, be a light in their life. I'm like, let's go for it. Like, I'll give you all the tea. I'll give you, you know, whatever you want to know. Like, because it just, like, helps people. And that's the thing is, like, you want, like, I love, like, watching people on social media that I can relate to or, like, that give, like, the real and the raw. Because it's like, that's just. That's life. That's normal life. Like, yes. I like seeing, you know, all these, like, highlights of, like, these fashion posts and everything. But I'm also like, the girls that are just sitting in a T shirt that's just like, you know, just making coffee and just talking about this crazy thing that happened at the dmv. I'm like, oh, my gosh. I love it.

[Unknown Host]

I know. That's why. That's why I love TikTok so much. Because I feel like it's really, like, not normalized. What's the word I'm looking for? Like, I will post TikToks. Like, nothing on my face in, like, looking, like, literally just.

[Morgan]

Just post a post.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, literally.

[Morgan]

Like, you don't have to think about it. You just do it.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, you could totally just be yourself. And I feel like tick tock really brings out the, you know, a day in the life or, like, get ready with Me and it's people, like. Like you said, like, cleaning the litter box. Like, people will show them themselves doing that.

[Morgan]

I feel like it's makes it so much more relatable. Yeah, you're like, okay. Like, yeah, this is like real life.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, exactly. I love it. Okay, let's talk about battle camp, because I want to talk about it, period. Period. I. We love. We're like a sucker for, like, any form of game, competition, reality show, but we were excited with this one because we knew, I mean, not know, but a lot of the cast we liked. And so we were like, oh, this is like, what. What is this going to be about? This is Interesting. When you were first talked to about this, what was your initial reaction?

[Morgan]

I was excited. I was so stoked because my husband and I are the same way. Like, we love watching, like, squid games and, like. Yeah, the Circle and, like, all these competition shows, and we always, like, joke about it. Like, if something. If someone, like, drops a, you know, puzzle piece or something on Survivor, we're like, how did you do that? We're, like, so intense with it. We're like, there's no way. There's no way. So seeing it and, like, getting opportunity to do it, I was like, oh, let's go. It's game time. Like, this is going to be iconic.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

So I was so stoked for it.

[Unknown Host]

Oh, my gosh. What was your. What was your favorite part and what was your least favorite part? I have a feeling I know what the least favorite part is, but I'll let you share.

[Morgan]

Least favorite part was eating the bugs, obviously. That's disgusting. My favorite part was actually, like, getting to meet the cast because it was so different, because some of the people that were on the cast, their shows hadn't come out yet. So QT and Kyle from the Circle, their show hadn't. Their season of the Circle hadn't come out yet.

[Unknown Host]

Oh, wow.

[Morgan]

And same with Brie. That was on Too Hot to Handle. So, like, it was interesting going in, and I didn't know these people and didn't know them from their show, so it was harder for strategic gameplay because I was like, I can't reference how you played on your show or how you're portrayed on it, but it was nice to get to know them for who they were and then also watch them have their show come out and just be a part of it. It felt behind the scenes. That was one of my favorite parts, was connecting with the cast members, and I'd watch some of them on shows and stuff. But to be living all with each other for, like, you know, weeks and stuff, it was insane.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host]

Was there someone there that you had watched that you were, like, surprised to see or excited to see?

[Morgan]

Yes, I was excited to see Gio and Polly from Selling the OC because I love watching it and selling Sunset I'm obsessed with. So I was really excited to see them and, like, be able to meet them. Trey I remembered from Squid Games because him and his mom and, like, all the things. And then also I remembered Lorenzo because I was like, he's the one that stole the food. Like, I remember that. So I was like. Recognized them, like, knew where they were from So I was like, oh, my gosh, this is cool. I get to meet you guys. Like, also, like, I want to know all the behind the scenes of squid games, like, how it operated. Like, I want all the tea. So it's nice to meet them. Georgia had seen on her shows, and same with Chase.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

So it was, like, nice to see them because I'm like, you guys pop up on my screens all the time, and.

[Unknown Host]

But, like.

[Morgan]

And we've been in the same place at the same time, but we've never, like, crossed paths.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

So I'm like, it's so cool to, like, actually, like, be doing something together.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

So I was really excited about that. But, yeah, I mean, the whole cast, like, everyone, like, I was so excited to meet Shubi. I was like, oh, my God, I love you already. Like, I already know we're gonna be best friends, so, like, let's kick it up.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

And that's just what happened. We became best friends.

[Unknown Host]

I love that. Would. Who's, like, the closest. Are you still, like, close with from the show?

[Morgan]

I would say I'm closest with Shubi. Qt. Kyle and Nick. Those are, like, the people I'm closest from.

[Unknown Host]

I. Fun fact qt. I call her Corey because I. I. We danced together in college, so we both did a dance. I went to school originally for dance, and then I switched to nursing, but we were in the same dance program in Long beach, and so I. We've, like, been Instagram friends because we were in the same program, and we've just been, like, friendly. And then all of a sudden, she, like, started posting. She was on the circle. I was like, wait, what? And then when the show came out, I was like, wait, you're on my team?

[Morgan]

This is crazy.

[Unknown Host]

Like, this is so funny.

[Morgan]

She's a sweetheart.

[Unknown Host]

She's awesome. I mean, I haven't. We've kept in touch, obviously, over social media, but I haven't seen her in years. But it's so fun.

[Morgan]

I was with her yesterday, the day before.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, it's so fun, like, getting. It's like, such a random thing, but it's really cool, like, getting to see her, like, shine on there and.

[Morgan]

Yeah. That is insane.

[Unknown Host]

I know.

[Morgan]

That's crazy.

[Unknown Host]

It's so random. I'm curious. What. What's next for you? What are you excited about? Is there something you want to do? Are you just excited to, like, go home and be married and I'm excited.

[Morgan]

To go see my husband and cuddle with my cats, obviously, but I'm just excited to, like, See, like, where life takes me because I feel like I don't have, like, a set plan of, like, what I want to do. I just love, like, dabbling in all these different things and, like, just experiencing, like, the different things that this career, you know, has.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

So I feel like I'm excited to see, like, what there is in the future.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

But it's like, there's not, like, one specific thing that I'm, like, fully looking forward to. So that's, you know, eventually having kids.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

But career wise, I'm just excited to see, like, what the future holds and, you know, just go with the flow.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host]

I love that for you. Well, great. Okay. I have a last little segment for us. It's seven questions. You can rapid fire them. You can go into a monologue if you feel like your heart wants to do that. It's called Lemon seven. So seven questions. The first one is what movie or song title best describes your mental health today?

[Morgan]

I would say this is the Life by Miley Cyrus slash Hannah Montana. Because I'm like, this is a lot. But that's us right now. We're like, yeah, living it.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, you are living the life. I love that. Number two is how open are you with people in your life when struggling?

[Morgan]

Not very open at all. I'm very closed. But I have a very, very, very small group of people. Like, I can barely even fit on one hand.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

That I feel very comfortable telling anything to. But outside of that, I will not share much with anyone else that's not in, like, that very, very close knit circle.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host]

Number three is if you could follow three social media accounts, only follow three social media accounts. What would they be?

[Morgan]

Okay, so I thought of this one.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

So I would say Kylie Mae. Yes. Love her.

[Unknown Host]

She. She. I love her.

[Morgan]

I love her. She's the cutest thing ever. And Christy Howard. And the reason why I'd follow both of them is because they're just real and raw with their social media. Like, they post struggles, they post, you know, no makeup. Like, all the different things where they're so relatable, but, like, their character and, like, their personalities, like, and they're just, like, so funny. Where I'm like, I am obsessed and I'm in love with you guys. And I don't know, I just feel like they're so relatable. Like, even, like, you know, Kaylee talking about, like, how she had a miscarriage and, like, all these, like, hard things where it's like, she's so open with it, where it's Like, I feel like I can relate with, like, how I was with Cheer, where I just, like, admire her for it.

[Unknown Host]

It.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

And, like, same with Christy. She's just, like, the sweetest person ever. Like, Like, I know that, like, if I met them, like, I'd be best friends with them.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

So I'm like, would follow them hands down. And then the last one I'd follow would be Starbucks because I feel like I have to know, like, what the new drinks are.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Like, I just have to know. Yeah, those would be the three people.

[Unknown Host]

Well, you came for what? What is your drink that you have here?

[Morgan]

It is the ice vanilla chai made with brevity. It is my iconic. We call it the Morgan. Oh, my gosh.

[Unknown Host]

I need to try that. I haven't had a Chinese. It's, like, so long.

[Morgan]

It's Christmas in a cup. Like, I though I'm obsessed with it.

[Unknown Host]

It's, like, really sweet. You, like, would you drink, like, a plain coffee?

[Morgan]

Yeah, I would, but I also love. That's so shocking. I love sugar. I wouldn't drink black coffee, but I got into it because I learned more about, like, how Starbucks, like, roast their coffee and, like, where it comes from and, like, the different notes of it. And, like, I gained appreciation for black coffee. But before I would not drink black coffee, I would have more creamer than I would have coffee.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

And now I'm like, I could actually sit there and drink, you know, just plain coffee and be completely fine.

[Unknown Host]

I love that for you. I love your Starbucks content. It's really. That's. That's really cute. Okay, number four is what is your favorite form of self care?

[Morgan]

Sounds weird, but hibernating is what I call it.

[Unknown Host]

Okay.

[Morgan]

So literally I just shut down.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

No phones, no TVs, no, like, going out doing anything. Like, I literally am just in bed and I'm doing arts and crafts or something, and it's just like. Like a detox, if that makes sense. And also a good bubble bath. I love me a good bubble bath.

[Unknown Host]

Oh, my gosh. I need to hibernate. I love. I love that some days I'm like, I'll tell my husband. I'm like, I'm working from bed today. Yeah, don't.

[Morgan]

I'm like, you just.

[Unknown Host]

I'm not getting out of bed.

[Morgan]

Like, you just need it.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Like, it's just. I don't know. It's just like a full factory reset. Because sometimes I'm like, I have too many tabs open. Yeah, we just need a full factory Reset this and just try again.

[Unknown Host]

That's so good.

[Morgan]

So that's my best way of doing it.

[Unknown Host]

Hibernating.

[Morgan]

Haven't figured out another way that's more successful than that. So we're sticking with it.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, we'll stick with that. But number five is, what is the most misunderstood thing about you?

[Morgan]

That I'm actually 27. Everyone thinks that I'm, like, 15, 16, 17 years old. I'm like, guys, I'm 27, and I don't still cheer. That's the other thing. Everyone's like, oh, my gosh, you still cheer. I'm like, that was like, five years ago.

[Unknown Host]

Did you look? Because I feel like I've been seeing people post on social media. Like, now they're 30, but people think they're, like, a teenager. And when they were a teenager. Yes, people think they were older.

[Morgan]

I'm gonna look the same from the point where I was 12 years old until I'm 65. Yeah, you're gonna have your kids.

[Unknown Host]

People are gonna think you're, like, babysitting them.

[Morgan]

They're gonna be like, oh, like, is this your sister? And I'm like, nope, I gave birth to this one.

[Unknown Host]

Hey, that'll be good. That'll be good for you.

[Morgan]

And they say it pays off later in life.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah.

[Morgan]

Like, oh. I'm like, I'm just waiting for it. I'm just waiting for it.

[Unknown Host]

You're patiently waiting. Number six is who has had the most positive impact on your mental health?

[Morgan]

I would say my grandparents, for sure, and also my husband. Like, it's like, different parts of my life, they play different roles, but that even my grandparents still play a role today. Yeah, but those are, like, the three people where I'm like, hands down, this is, like, fully changed my life for the better.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host]

Number seven is if you can go back to one moment in your life, what moment would that be and what would you say to yourself?

[Morgan]

A million percent. I'd go back to when I was younger, when I was going through all my hard times, and I would tell myself, like, it's gonna be good. It's gonna be okay. Like, you're gonna get through this. Like, you know, you're gonna find people that are going to surround you, that are going to love you, that are going to care for you and support you, and you're also going to tell your story one day, and it's going to, like, impact and inspire others.

[Unknown Host]

I think she would have loved to hear that.

[Morgan]

I think she would have been like, you're a psycho. Like, I have no idea who you are.

[Unknown Host]

She's like, oh, no, I'm actually not.

[Morgan]

She's like, no, I'm actually never going to talk.

[Unknown Host]

We're not. We're not doing that. And we're also not cheering. We don't cheer. We weren't.

[Morgan]

We're going to run track instead.

[Unknown Host]

Oh, my gosh. That's so good. Well, thanks for coming and chatting. This is so fun. I love getting to learn more about you more than I have from watching you on TV, but I'm excited to film some TikToks because you had such an idea.

[Morgan]

Yes, I'm excited. You're the sweetest. Thanks for having me.

[Unknown Host]

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