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Brittany Carter
The following podcast is a dear media production. Sweet and sour. One side says sweet, one side says sour. Discuss things that men do.
Rachel Recchia
I love talking shit about men.
Brittany Carter
Where's tank tops?
Rachel Recchia
I feel like I could be into a tank top, not like a spaghetti strap.
Brittany Carter
There needs to be a little substance. Has his mom's name tattooed on himself.
Rachel Recchia
Oh, that's cute.
Brittany Carter
Either way, there has to be a.
Rachel Recchia
Little bit of a middle.
Brittany Carter
Respects his mom but doesn't rely on his mom.
Rachel Recchia
Yes.
Brittany Carter
Gets your name tattooed on him. Considers himself an influencer.
Rachel Recchia
No, please. I don't want that anymore. I'm the one posting. You can't be trying to post too. I'm all for do the social media, but also have an idea. Go build something.
Brittany Carter
Love is blind. We would enjoy.
Rachel Recchia
You need says that, but I don't think love is blind. I'll go on the record.
Brittany Carter
Like, has been on dating shows.
Rachel Recchia
Oh.
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Rachel Recchia
We like a man who takes care of his skin.
Brittany Carter
Yes.
Rachel Recchia
You are such a Pisces too, because me and you are immediately, like, move in with me immediately. Be in touch with your emotions.
Brittany Carter
Like, we are become one.
Rachel Recchia
Like if you asked me for a Snapchat. No.
Brittany Carter
Immediately, no splitting the bill.
Rachel Recchia
Oh, no.
Brittany Carter
You're setting the bar way too high.
Rachel Recchia
Love bombing works when you follow through.
Brittany Carter
I know. They post lip syncing. Tik Toks wants to make out in public.
Rachel Recchia
No tonguing in public.
Brittany Carter
I don't like tongue in public.
Rachel Recchia
Okay, I do.
Brittany Carter
I'll. I'll allow it. Take stance classes.
Rachel Recchia
Okay. I'm gonna do this because I can't fight with Clayton anymore. I literally can't fight with this man. Clayton, do not come for me.
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Rachel Recchia
Thank you for having me. I'm so excited.
Brittany Carter
This is so fun because I feel like we've both known who the other is, like, for a while, and then we finally got to meet at other Rachel's event.
Rachel Recchia
Yes.
Brittany Carter
And it was, like, finally, like, connected. So I'm so excited to.
Rachel Recchia
I know. And I was literally telling her too. When you followed me on Instagram, I was like, you'll never guess who just followed me. I was so excited because I feel like we have so many mutuals, like Daisy and Kelsey and Rachel and everyone. So I'm excited to be here.
Brittany Carter
I know. It's so fun. Okay, so we start each episode off with this jar. It's a game called Citrus Got Real. If you want to pull a little piece of paper out of there, you may have to, like, dig for one. But there's. There's Some goodies in there.
Taylor Lauc
O.
Rachel Recchia
Okay. I think this is the only I can reach. Okay. Do I read it?
Brittany Carter
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
Okay. Okay.
Brittany Carter
Ooh.
Rachel Recchia
If can only use one emoji for the rest of your life, what would it be and why? The crying emoji. No. Or the emoji with, like, so in the eyes that are, like, welling up. I. That's my number one all the time. Because I cry all the time, but it also is, like, happiness.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
It's just. It fits everything.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
I feel like crying is just a good. It's a good emotion, and I feel.
Rachel Recchia
Like it happens literally. My brand at this point, I'm like, I don't think I've done one show without the tears, so I feel like I have to keep it on brand.
Brittany Carter
It's like, your trademark. I know. It's like, the show wouldn't be complete without you crying.
Rachel Recchia
I'm like, I have to own it, because if I don't, if I continue to be embarrassed about it, like, yeah, it'll just take over. So I have to, like, do what I can to at least embrace the tears.
Brittany Carter
My thing is, like, I cry when I start to get, like, overwhelmed or, like, it's just, like, I'll be fine, and I'll just, like, start crying. Or if I, like, did something that was, like, scary, like, I don't know, like a scary, like, ATV ride or something. You have to cry. Like, after I'll, like, start crying, and I'll be like, honey, I'm fine. It's just. It's just leaving.
Rachel Recchia
My body and emotion is just leaving. It feels so good. What's your zodiac sign?
Brittany Carter
A Pisces.
Rachel Recchia
I'm a Pisces. Wait, because you're a Pisces. That's why.
Taylor Lauc
Okay.
Rachel Recchia
Like, the water, the emotion, it, like, flows through us. We're, like, easily able to, like, access all of our feeling, where I feel like a lot of people can block it off. Not us.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
No.
Rachel Recchia
Just comes out.
Taylor Lauc
No, I feel. I feel a lot of the.
Rachel Recchia
Oh, my gosh, I'm dead. That you're a Pisces. I love it.
Brittany Carter
When's your birthday?
Rachel Recchia
March 8th.
Brittany Carter
Okay. I'm the 16th.
Rachel Recchia
Oh, my gosh.
Brittany Carter
We're so close.
Rachel Recchia
We're literally twins. We're so close.
Brittany Carter
Okay, I want to start with Perfect.
Rachel Recchia
Match, but I have so many things to tell you.
Brittany Carter
I have so many questions. I also just want to say, like, we'll, like, talk about bachelor stuff. We're basically just going to go in reverse of what I had prepped but it's fine. I feel like watching you on Perfect Match was, like, I'm going to get deep really quick into this episode was, like, a different version of you. I've been seeing that in the best way.
Rachel Recchia
Like, thank you.
Brittany Carter
There's just, like, this, like, really, like, just, like, lightness and, like, airiness. Not, like, in a bad way. You just feel, like, happy in it.
Rachel Recchia
Thank you. I've actually been seeing that. It's funny because I see more on this season. People are like, rachel's boring. I'm like, if that's the meanest thing you could say about me, like, I've come such a long way from, like, deeply insecure.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
And I feel like having gone through the Bachelor and Bachelorette and, like, being able to really be myself on this season was, like, it was nice to be able to do that.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
How did that come to be? Because when I saw your face pop up in the promo, I was like, what is happening? Like, how is this crossover happening?
Rachel Recchia
I know. I was so shocked. They called me and they were like, would you want to, like, take an interview for Perfect Match? And I was watching season two, and I was like, how can this be? And they were like, they're doing crossovers, like, all different shows. And I was like, this is a perfect opportunity for me to, like, be myself away from the Bachelor. I laugh because I'm like, of course not. Like, of course I had to, like, reunite with an ex, but, like, I was excited to have an opportunity to be on my own, because I've never been able to be on my own.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
So it was exciting.
Brittany Carter
Did you, like, have a feeling he was going to be there or not at all?
Rachel Recchia
No, people asked me that, and I talked a little bit on AD's podcast.
Taylor Lauc
Okay.
Rachel Recchia
But Clayton has been through a lot personally in his own life, so I thought the last thing he would ever do, especially coming off the Bachelor, and he took it really hard, like, mentally, that he would want to do that again. Like, he had the same feeling as me. Like, maybe I'm the only one there and I can reinvent and.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
Be myself. But. Yeah. No. No idea. Last person.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah, I. Yeah.
Brittany Carter
When it was the promo and it was the two of you, Taylor, I was like, oh, my.
Rachel Recchia
And it's just gonna be so bad. Like, we. Yeah, we. We talk about it. Like, it was kind of. I feel like, always gonna happen because we had such a horrific breakup that one network or someone was gonna want to see us reunite. And.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
I don't know. I never would have thought it would have been on Netflix.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
Where? Very true. Where. Where are you guys now? Are you, like, finding or just like.
Rachel Recchia
So we were good. Leaving Mexico and then watching everything back. I got so angry at him. Cause I was like, you literally lied. You said that you were gonna give me the season, but that wasn't true. And then we were going back and forth a little bit in the media, and I called him, and we talked on the phone for two hours, and we finally were like, we're, like, not ever meant to be, but, like, we want the best for each other. But, yeah. I did not expect to be fighting with him post show.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
So it's been rough, but we're like, okay now.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah. No, I've.
Brittany Carter
It was funny for me to watch it because I've just gotten to know Clayton since he's been on off of the show and off of Bachelor and have been privy to the stuff that he's been going through also. And, like, knowing him in real life and then, like, seeing him on the show, like, I was just cracking up because he is so, like, so meta. And, like, things happen for this reason and this.
Rachel Recchia
And it's like, it's a screensaver.
Brittany Carter
Yeah. Is it really?
Rachel Recchia
Yes. Everything happens or reason.
Brittany Carter
Sweet. Sweet Clayton. Sweet Clayton. But it was. It was literally cracking me up because I was like, this is not, like, his brand of. This is ABC is not. It's not this Netflix show.
Rachel Recchia
I think it's funny because me and Clayton just stick out, like.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
The way we were, like, you know, used to being on TV and, like, the way Netflix people are used to being on tv, you could tell that we act different. So it is funny to watch us, like, interacting with, like, people. Like, I only dated the Love island guys. And the way we're so different, it's so funny because, like, their mindset and my mindset is just different. So it's, like, interesting to watch. I think Clayton is also, like, me.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
Super serious.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
I feel like the way Netflix does reality is more, like, not trashy, but it is way more raunchier and stuff. With Bachelor franchise, it is like, when I think of Bachelor, I think of Joey and just, like, how he, like.
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Brittany Carter
And it's, like, very much, like, fully encompassing, honestly. Like, Clayton's is, like, how he feels. Like, that is, like, Bachelor to me.
Rachel Recchia
And it's just we all. I'm like, oh, I was casted for the perfect show. I'm such a Bachelor girl.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
And like you said, like, watching us interact with the too hot to handle people, and we're so, like, I'm here for the right reasons. Like, I would never take a shot out of someone's belly button. Like, we're used to, like, that kind of, like, wholesomeness, but it was, like, fun to get out of my comfort zone and, like, do something a little bit more.
Brittany Carter
Were you ever, like, what am I doing?
Rachel Recchia
Like, during the kissing challenge, I was like, oh, my God. Like, I didn't know what I did to be there in that moment. Like, what did I do wrong? Who did I hurt in a past life? Crazy.
Brittany Carter
And then freaking paradise is.
Rachel Recchia
Paradise is kind of. But it still has that, like, here. For the right reasons, they need to stick.
Brittany Carter
Have you watched at all?
Rachel Recchia
Are you talking about this season?
Brittany Carter
This season?
Rachel Recchia
Oh, I hate it. Put it on a record. I hate it. And I feel bad for everyone that did it. Like, they didn't sign up for that.
Brittany Carter
I know.
Rachel Recchia
And a lot of my friends who went down, like, Susie and Jill, like, I feel like they got the short end of the stick.
Brittany Carter
I am, like, justice for Susie Angel.
Rachel Recchia
Both of them. Like, I feel horrible. Six guys down there.
Brittany Carter
I know.
Rachel Recchia
And also, they've been, like, pining after Susie for years, like, trying to get her, and finally she agrees, and that's how you do her.
Brittany Carter
I know.
Rachel Recchia
One date and gone. I, like, this is crazy.
Brittany Carter
I know. And she's just like, that she needs to just come back with something on the show. Because I feel like she is, like, such, like, a genuine person. Like, Justin, like, offering, like, his rose. She's not gonna take it. Jeremy calling her. She's like, no. Like, she's just, like, she doesn't want it. You can tell with her, she's not there to be on the show. Like, she.
Rachel Recchia
Like, that's the thing about Susie. She will deny a rose. Like, yeah. And I love also, like, the fact she, like, genuinely, I feel like, keeps getting the short end of the stick. Like, even on our season, she tried to leave. They wouldn't let her leave. Try to leave. Jeremy wouldn't let her leave. Like, this girl, she's like, she needs something there for her. Like, I wish she would have started on a season with men who, like, were older and, like.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
I don't know. More mature in the franchise. That's what they promised them.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
But if, like, the only one there that was like. Like, that was like, maybe Dale. He's like, that one was still. Yeah.
Brittany Carter
Left field for me.
Rachel Recchia
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
I don't know, I'm still watching it. And I will continue to watch it.
Rachel Recchia
I'm like, kind of like I might stop.
Brittany Carter
I don't have anything else to do on Mondays.
Rachel Recchia
That's true. It does give you something.
Brittany Carter
But paradise has always been my favorite thing, like, of the Bachelor franchise. Like, paradise is. I don't know why. It's. My husband loves everything Bachelor. He's hysterical. I love his favorite thing. But paradise has been my one thing. But with the whole change up, I.
Rachel Recchia
Was like, they're doing too much. I think they're a little bit behind on the times. They knew that.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
That's why they wanted to change. But it was too much, too fast. Like, new editing, new cameras, new format. And then the games were involved, like.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
It feels like they could have introduced things slowly.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
And now they've changed back to the original song in the intro.
Rachel Recchia
Yeah. At least they're listening to the audience. That's something they haven't done in the past either.
Brittany Carter
I know. I'm also like, how much money do they spend on filming all the different intros?
Rachel Recchia
I know.
Brittany Carter
That's where, like, my brain goes, like, production side.
Rachel Recchia
I'm like, I know it's. It's frustrating and it's like, hard to watch. I like, miss the iconic villa and the iconic song and the silliness. It feels like it's all lost this season.
Brittany Carter
I know. I hope they do something, figure something out.
Rachel Recchia
We need help.
Brittany Carter
I know.
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Brittany Carter
Okay, let's talk about Bachelor because we're on it. What made you want to audition for the show? Or, like, audition but sign up for it?
Rachel Recchia
It's, like, crazy. She, like, knows I was going through, like, a horrible breakup in college, and I just was like, you know what? I'm gonna sign up for the Bachelor. Like, you know how when every girl, like, gets broken up and she's like, all right. And I signed up and they called me. Immediately it started happening, and I was like. I just had this feeling. I'm like. I feel like I'm supposed to do this.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
And the way it just happened so easily, I really know I was, like, meant to do it, but, yeah, it just came from, like, a really rough breakup and someone basically telling me I would never find anyone. And so I was, like, trying to prove him wrong. And then it ended up changing my life, which is crazy.
Brittany Carter
Wow. How? Obviously. I don't even actually know if I feel finished that finished the season of the Bachelor because I was like.
Rachel Recchia
It was rough.
Brittany Carter
I think I honestly watched it and didn't watch, like, two of the episodes because I was so, like, I was actually frustrated with a lot of things. Obviously how you guys were treated, but also what the Internet was doing to Clayton. I was, like, frustrated by, like, the whole thing.
Rachel Recchia
Crazy.
Brittany Carter
It was really bad.
Rachel Recchia
It was just all around. I mean, horrible for him. Horrible what they put me and Gabby through at the time. It feels like we were a part of a season where. And I mean, they continued for a couple seasons after where, like, they would just try to make everyone, like, suffer in a way that wasn't fun to watch. And they've stepped away from that. I feel like with Joey totally, like, you know, doing something better. But, like, people watch. They don't like to watch people suffer. And that season was, like, a lot of suffering.
Brittany Carter
Yeah, no, it's. It's wild to think back on that. And I feel like you, like, could tell. Like, there was a time where I feel like you could tell that the producers were, like, keeping people or putting scenarios and, like, these things, but I feel like it just kind of got to a point where, like, I feel like that season really was, like, the breaking point where they, like, their efforts weren't working, so then they had to make it even more, like, intense.
Rachel Recchia
Yeah, no, it was. It was rough. And I think Clayton, he. He didn't really go as far on his season where he felt comfortable to, like, put his foot down with producers. And I think it does get hard sometimes to tell them no, because you are like, I'm the lead. I want to give them this great season, and they're better at this than me. I don't know what I'm doing. And I do feel like he was maybe, like, pushed a little too far and. And paid, like, serious repercussions for that.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
But, yeah, what me and Gabby went through, too, was just. It was hard. And even after, like, she was there, like, I. It was hard to pull myself out of that and go straight into my own season. It was just a lot in six months.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
I was gonna say, how soon after Clayton's season was your season?
Rachel Recchia
Well, they called me two weeks after to start interviewing for Bachelorette, and I said, no. I'm like, I still love Clayton. What do you mean? Like, you expect me to turn that off?
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
And they're like, no, that's why we want you to interview. And I was like, okay. So I was interviewing, watching everything back, still knowing I had my finale coming up. And that went into. I think we ended in November, and then Bachelorette started in March, so it was super quick. And, yeah, we had no warning that we were going to be the Bachelorette, so they just. We had our finale, and at the finale, they were like, all right, tomorrow. I. I was still working my job at my flight school, so it was a very quick turnaround.
Brittany Carter
Wow. So I guess you guys found out that it was literally going to be.
Rachel Recchia
Like, in reality with everyone. Yeah. Because I thought I was like, oh, it's going to be Gabby.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
So I wasn't even prepared at all to leave and do this because I just was like, oh, if it's between us, it'll go to her.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
And then they told us in real time, and it was like. It literally happened the next week. All the guys were in quarantine when we got announced. It was very fast. Yeah.
Brittany Carter
When they announced it was going to be the two of you. Obviously, part of me was like, justice for these girls, but the other part of me didn't like it because I don't.
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Brittany Carter
They did that.
Rachel Recchia
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
But that was better for me because one left. I still didn't like it, but we had this worse.
Rachel Recchia
Yeah, I. Oh, I can't even imagine.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
But I also just don't. I just didn't like. I think I was thinking, like, I don't know, normally there's. After the Bachelor, there's always things that come after that. And if you're having two girls do it, you're gonna only then take one of them and not have the other one do these things.
Rachel Recchia
Right.
Brittany Carter
And that's what I was thinking when it started, and I didn't like that they picked the two of you. I would have liked if they would have picked one of you and then maybe had the other one do something else in the ABC realm.
Rachel Recchia
Yeah. It's definitely hard looking back, because I think their intentions were great and they could have made it. Like, me and Gabby had an amazing time, and, like, I don't regret it at all with her, but the way it kind of turned into a season where it was like the men were so in control, and me and Gabby were just every single day feeling like. Yeah, we were like, you know, just. I don't know any other word besides suffering at the hands of these men who were in control of every decision. And I think it's just also natural, like, human. Like, when you have two people, there's gonna be one that you like more.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
And so obviously I was one that they didn't like more. So that was hard, like, going through where, like, I always had to be, you know, the one that was, like, chosen last or not chosen. So, yeah, I wish, you know, looking back, it was like, oh, this is such a good idea. And I could see it. But it is hard, like, having gone through and, like, been the lesser one. But, yeah, no, I'm so grateful that I went through it with her because a lot of leads, it's very isolating. And me and her always had each other, despite what the men put us through. So I don't regret it. I just wish ABC would have handled it in a way that put us in the power a little bit more as the leads.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
Do you think it made, like, obviously your breakup and the ending. Do you think it made post show even harder because of that? Because you were like, I, like, I'm just thinking, like, spiraling. Like, you know, you obviously, like, relationship didn't work out. Gabby's going on to do these things. Like, I can't imagine, like, that probably, yeah, impacted your mental health a little bit.
Rachel Recchia
I mean, it sucked. And not only was I, like, the less desirable one, and I was the one that had the failed engagement, and it was hard because I think they could have also just let me walk away from that season being like, that sucks. Like, yeah, you know, her relationship didn't work out, but the Aven twist that I didn't know about.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
I feel like that also painted me as a villain in the end where it was like, then he became the victim in a situation where I was suffering all season and I had a fail. Like, I got cheated on and then I was the villain again. So I wish ABC would have just, like, let me walk away from that single. And it's hard because I know they wanted me to have this happy ending. Gabby was, like, obviously signed on to dancing and I was so happy for her.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
But, yeah, that was a lot going through that. So I've been lucky that I got to do paradise after and Perfect Match and, like, had kind of my own thing.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
But, yeah, it was definitely difficult.
Brittany Carter
What do you think the biggest thing you learned about yourself or even just like, through that time? Because I imagine, like, getting out of, like, that hole after your season probably, like, wasn't the most fun.
Rachel Recchia
No. And it's like, in a way, I feel lucky that I got to watch it back because I can see what people were seeing. Like, there was a side of me that was so insecure and just, like, deeply uncomfortable with myself. And like, no one wants to watch that back. And I had to. And it was hard to watch. But I'm glad I did because it really helped me.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
To, like, grow. And I know that's so cliche, like, oh, I grew from it. But I just see that was probably seeing the worst part of myself was me on my season and how I acted and how insecure I was. And it really helped me to, like, grow, honestly.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
Well, I feel like a lot of people, majority of people who don't do reality shows, they never get to see themselves in a third person point of view.
Rachel Recchia
It's terrifying.
Brittany Carter
And it is like you getting to do that, you know, obviously that does not sound fun at all. I would not want to watch myself go through that. But at the same time, like, you're saying, like, it's actually if you use it for good, you can actually, like, see the parts of you that, you know, like, hey, maybe I need to, like, work on this. Or me feeling like this is because of whatever this is.
Rachel Recchia
Yeah. And you really have to go back and do the work because there were times, like, I would watch myself, and I'm like, what was I doing? Like, I would just have huge outbursts and freak out, and it's, like, it is embarrassing to watch back. But, yeah, like you said, it's, like, nice to be able to see those things and learn.
Brittany Carter
Do you feel like you've gotten closure on your Bachelor time?
Rachel Recchia
Yeah, I do feel like paradise was my closure.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah. Yeah.
Brittany Carter
What was your time like on there?
Rachel Recchia
Honestly, like, it was really chill.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
I do look back, and I'm like, oh, I could have probably gone without it just because all my exes were there. Like, there really was no one for me, which is fine. But I feel like I got to, like, have fun, and people kind of got to see a side of me that wasn't bat because I really was crazy on my season. I just, like, didn't know how else to be.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
But I felt like leaving paradise on my own terms. It was, like, I felt good.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
Leaving the Bachelor franchise that way. So. Yeah, I feel like that was my closure.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
How do you feel? Like, mental health wise, since being in the public eye, then after, like, having your season, Definitely. I'm sure you got more back backlash when you were the lead, because that is always how it happens.
Rachel Recchia
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
How. How was that for you, mentally, like, having that backlash?
Rachel Recchia
No. That's crazy, I think, especially for people that go on the Bachelor, because we really were literally normal people, like, picked up off the street, and then one day you're just on a show and people are telling you, like, the worst things.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
You're getting death threats, and then all of a sudden, it just, like, goes back to normal.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
And so any show I've done since Bachelorette, it's been so easy.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
Because, like, being a part of an, like, ensemble of, like, cast members, like, like, you don't get as much heat.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
So Bachelorette and Bachelor was the hardest, for sure.
Brittany Carter
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
Especially Bachelorette. Especially because there was someone there who was more likable. I just got all the heat, and after that, I'm like, I can do anything if I can handle that.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
It makes me, like, so sad when you, like, say that. Like, but it's true. Like, I know, but, like, it's. It's sad that, like, I mean, I think now you're, like, in a healthy.
Rachel Recchia
Place where it's like, oh, and now it's like, I am so, like, grateful for it. I really am. But, like, there's no way to have two and have them both be.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
Equal.
Brittany Carter
I feel like you saying that reminds me of me when I talk about Taylor, because, like, we've had people that have, like, agreed to come on the podcast, and then I'm like, no, it's actually just me. I actually just mainly do, like, 90% of them. And they're like, okay, we'll reschedule when Taylor is available. And I'm like, actually. Oh.
Taylor Lauc
Huh.
Brittany Carter
And I'm like, I get it to some degree.
Rachel Recchia
Out them immediately. That's crazy. I know, because you do such a good job.
Taylor Lauc
Thank you.
Rachel Recchia
That's really. No, you're amazing.
Brittany Carter
But I feel like. I feel like the same thing. Like, I get it. Like, who wouldn't want to, like, you know, be, like, talking with him?
Rachel Recchia
So you guys created this together?
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
Now it's. In the beginning, I, like, understood it. Now I'm like, okay, like, we're almost three years into this.
Rachel Recchia
I'd be like, well, you're not invited now.
Brittany Carter
Yeah, no, we literally, we're actually busy forever. It's the worst when it's like, an inside influencer, too, and I'm like, like, bashing my head.
Rachel Recchia
No, that's insane.
Brittany Carter
Yeah, it's interesting.
Rachel Recchia
But that's something I totally, like, similar.
Brittany Carter
Relate to being, like, being the, like, lesser person. And it's like, I. I think in the beginning of this, I don't think it ever hurt my feelings because I understood, like, I know, like, Taylor's like a actual celebrity. Like, I understand that. And I'm not expecting people to treat us like the same. Well, they should. Nice. Nice. Wise. They should treat us the same. But I think I. I was a little hurt by it in the beginning because I was like. But, like, Taylor just shows up. Like, I'm the one that actually, like, does all the work for this.
Rachel Recchia
And the reason I point to him.
Brittany Carter
Because he normally sits here. Love you, babe. But he would say the same thing.
Rachel Recchia
I'm the one watching your stuff. I'm the one coming up with the questions. Yeah, yeah.
Brittany Carter
He says he. He would say the same thing. He's the talent. That's like our joke when. When he comes. He's the talent.
Rachel Recchia
He just looks pretty in the chair. You're like, I do everything and I look pre.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
So multi talented.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
But, yeah, it's like this weird not that it's humbling, because I don't think either one of us needed to be humbled, but it's just like a. Like a. Like a soft reality check almost. And it makes. I feel like. It's almost like, made me, like, work harder, too.
Rachel Recchia
And, like, it's harder, too, because you, like, have to prove yourself, like, so much more. And I feel, like, kind of similar. Like, in a way, it's like, obviously, I will never amount to, like, the. The success that Gabby's had, which I'm so, like, I'm truly her number one fan. Like, I literally. I watch everything she does, and I'm always, like, the first one to like and comment and stuff, and. But it's like, I won't ever be there. And it's like, I feel so lucky for what I've done, too.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
And I'm, like, proud of how far I've come to. Even though it, like, will never be, you know, the same.
Brittany Carter
Yeah, I love that.
Rachel Recchia
Thank you.
Brittany Carter
It's like, I feel like that shows, too, like, what I was saying just with you this season. And that's what I was telling Taylor when we were watching it. I was like, rachel just, like. Just seems like a little fairy, like, frolic around. And even though you were, like, the quote, unquote, I don't think you were boring. Like, you just weren't it toxically screaming at people and, you know, doing all these things like the other Netflix people are.
Rachel Recchia
I was just dating everyone in the villa like, that. I just came here to be the Bachelorette. Yeah, no, dating five people. I thought, that's the game.
Brittany Carter
Literally. That was literally you. But it was just. It was really cool to, like, see. See that, like, thank you. Shift in you.
Rachel Recchia
It was nice. It was nice to watch back and feel like I finally am like, oh, my gosh. Like, I'm okay. Like, normally I'm watching it back and I'm like, oh, my God, this edit. I see an edit, but, like, I did do those things. I cried, so I'm like, oh, God. But this time, like, oh, feels good. Like, I can watch back and be like, all right.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah, proud.
Brittany Carter
You know, you've talked about, like, your struggles with anxiety. How is that. Is that something you struggled with before reality tv? Has that come about since fame or how do you. When did that kind of start?
Rachel Recchia
I think it's really associated just when something's, like, airing or, like, when a show. Because it's like, this isn't normal for humans to, like, yeah. Be under scrutiny like, that and have a million people, like, telling you what you're like and what you should do. So I feel like it's not something I deal with in my everyday life. Like, it really is just in the heat of a show. And like, like last week, it was really. It was a lot with, like, the finale and everything happening, but now I'm like, I'm okay.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
Now you feel better. How. How is social media for you? Do you feel like you need a boundary with it? Do you feel like being the Bachelorette just really gave you some thick skin or.
Rachel Recchia
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
Where are you at with it?
Rachel Recchia
I feel like Bachelorette, like, it truly, like, knock on wood. But I don't think anything could be as bad as that.
Brittany Carter
So I. I think that's a fair statement.
Rachel Recchia
I'm like, once you get through that, like, truly, I feel like I could do anything.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
Do you feel like there is a boundary, social media, or are you just like, you're not chronically scrolling or.
Rachel Recchia
It's hard. I do, like, scroll, like, obviously, like, tick tock. It's a little. Feels a little less attached to me and I can post a little easily, More easily, but I feel like it's hard because it's like you want to reply to everything I know. And you know how it is. It's like people will say something that's. So I'll send it to, like, my friends and I'. Like, this is the most insane thing I've ever read. And you want to apply, but you can't, like, yeah, defend everything. And I think that's the hardest part is, like, when people just, like, assume they know something about you or. Yeah, it's just difficult when you just can't defend yourself for everything.
Brittany Carter
And, you know, like, the second that door opens and you do defend yourself, for one thing, it just comes in, like, tenfold. I had a. I just did a solo episode just myself, the first time, like, ever since having the podcast, which is kind of crazy. It took me a long time to just film one by myself. But I talked about how at the beginning of the year I had, like, a pregnancy scare. And the comment section was freaking out because people were like, it's not a scare if you're married.
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Brittany Carter
And they're like, children are villainized. And then just got into the, like, political and just all this stuff. I'm like, I think, sure, maybe you don't want to use the word scare, but I'm not trying to get pregnant right Now. So it did shock me when I was two weeks late on my period and was like. And you're like, what's going on?
Rachel Recchia
A lot to open up, especially on a solo episode. You're talking about something so big to you, and then you have, like, yeah, you think. I mean, and it's gonna help people, too. Like, there are probably a lot of people in marriages who don't want to have kids now, especially today. Yeah, it's a big decision. And, like, to have people in there, like, it's so frustrating. You can't comment to everyone. Like, but I meant it like this. Or you don't understand. It's like, I don't want to. You want them to see you so badly. And like, Caitlin, she told me something when I first went into the Bachelorette, and, like, I still think about it, and I say it all the time. She's like, don't go shopping for pain, like, going through your DMs or your comments, because you're always gonna find something. Like, if you look for it, it's gonna be there.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
But it is so tempting to go through the comment section and see what everyone's saying.
Brittany Carter
And, like, my favorite thing now is I had, like, this big swing where when this podcast started, I, like, didn't even open a comment section. And our listeners, we call them our lemon drops, they knew that. And so they would, like, comment on post, being like, girls, I know you're never going to see this because you don't look at the comments, but I really like this episode.
Taylor Lauc
Blah, blah, blah.
Rachel Recchia
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
And I was like, okay, I'm being, like, really dramatic here. I. I can, like, read these comments. And since then, I am, like, fine with it, but now I just look at it as, like, two things. One, like, a genuinely happy person would never, like, leave a comment like that.
Rachel Recchia
And I'm usually never, like, their face in the profile.
Brittany Carter
I know, I know. Or it's like the mom of three.
Rachel Recchia
From, like, and it's always Nebraska Bible verse. And it's always like, be kind.
Brittany Carter
Why are they always. It's. It's just too much. But I'm either you're never. You're not happy and, like, why am I wasting my energy on you? Or I also view it as it's upping my engagement on the post.
Rachel Recchia
So truly, all press is good presence, they say sometimes it doesn't feel like it, though.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
But it always is like, and thank you. Yep.
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Brittany Carter
Wait, I want. You talked about flight school earlier and I. My Taylor's dad was a pilot for years. He quit once Taylor, like, started doing acting. He had to, like, take him and was like his little, like, person. But oh my God, when Taylor forgot that you were a pilot and I was telling him about this and I was like, yeah, I want to talk to her about, like, being a pilot, because that is like a very male dominated industry. And he was like. Or I said, work her career in a male dominated industry.
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Brittany Carter
I was like, she was a pilot.
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Rachel Recchia
Yeah, that's so cool.
Brittany Carter
And like, just starts going off. But where did that, like, come from? I feel like that is such like a, like, party trick, like, fun fact.
Rachel Recchia
I know, it's crazy too. I feel like I just, like, I'm very lucky that I always knew what I wanted to do, like, early age. Like, I don't remember a time not knowing.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
But yeah, it's difficult. It's not easy. And especially now in a male dominated field and I have all this reality which is not very respected and in a field with men, I feel like if you even do anything like, remotely like what I've done, you're just not as respected. So definitely dealing with that. And yeah, it's a challenge for sure. Definitely the most challenging thing. Harder than any reality tv. It's just like dealing with all them.
Brittany Carter
How do you. What do you think is the biggest hurdle with it? Just like the lack of respect or.
Rachel Recchia
It's hard because, like, even before all this, when I was in flight school, you have to work like 10 times harder just to be at an even level with them. And it's just like, it's hard because I always just would treat everyone the same and like, I even like, look back to my time, my first, like, season on the Bachelor and I was like, so excited. And all these guys, all my co workers, they all sat around and watched it and made fun of me and posted like, videos of them, like, being like, remember when she forgot this? Remember when she asked this question? Like, they are like, they're difficult, they're tough. I know. And so it's like, it's been difficult going just not only through flight school as a woman, but now having like, all this where it's so easily accessible for them to see all these embarrassing things I've done and be like, all right, now take me seriously.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
So it's tough, but, you know, I'm smart and I'm good at what I do, so I have to remember that.
Brittany Carter
Boys are just. Boys are dumb.
Rachel Recchia
They truly. They truly are.
Brittany Carter
Boys are dumb. Do you still fly? I do.
Rachel Recchia
I don't do it. Like, I don't flight instruct, which is. I think everyone's like, oh, she doesn't fly anymore. I'm like, I do fly, but teaching right now is, you know, I don't really like to teach when a show is out because it's like, obviously they're not gonna respect me. So once this is all over, like, going back and doing that.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
Do you, like, still love doing it?
Rachel Recchia
I love it. Yeah.
Brittany Carter
It's.
Rachel Recchia
It's a lot of fun, and I love to travel. So they're kind of, like, synonymous, which is just, like, perfect.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah. Okay.
Brittany Carter
Well, whenever I'm scared of flying, I'm just gonna text you and be like.
Rachel Recchia
She'S terrified of flying. I'm gonna, like, audio record you all. I'm on the plane. I'm like, what's this sound? She used to be so scared. And it's funny because, like, I taught her how to look up turbulence, because I think when you know it's gonna happen, you're a little more prepared. You feel more in control, and it's funny. My best friend, she's here just, like, watching her. She would be terrified on her own, but when she flies with me and our other best friend, who's a pilot, she, like, we could be in the worst turbulence. She doesn't care because she just looks at us and she's like, okay. Like, she's so chill.
Brittany Carter
That's so good.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
I'm like. I feel like I wasn't. I was never scared as a kid, but I, I. I'm a nurse, and I worked as a Covid nurse. And after.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
Oh, my God. The lore behind. I know. It's crazy.
Brittany Carter
So after working through covet, I developed, like, PTSD and all this stuff, but I got really bad claustrophobia from wearing all of, like, the ppe. And then it was after that I got more scared of flying because it was, like, I felt a little claustrophobic, but also it was like, I haven't been diagnosed, but I think I developed OCD from working there because it was, like, really, like, out of my control, and I would, like, really start to Spiral. And it's been like, four years since that.
Taylor Lauc
But.
Brittany Carter
But each time I, like, feel a little better. And, you know, Taylor is like. He literally, like, before the plane even takes off, he's asleep. Like, we're literally, like, ascending, and he's zonked in the chair. Like, literally does not.
Rachel Recchia
I feel like that's common to, like, develop a fear later.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
And it has been like, I. I understand the fear now because they're, like. You know, in media, it seems like there's, like, all these accidents happening and things. But, yeah, I feel like you go through, like, one bad, like, bout of turbulence, and people are like, they're done.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
But being able to understand it, like, even if you could just, like, know a little bit more, it, like, really helps people to feel comfortable.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
Like, have you seen, like, the Jello?
Brittany Carter
That's literally. I saw the Jello maybe, like, a year and a half ago.
Rachel Recchia
Yeah, it's all just about, like, once you understand it or I even just think about. It's like, if you're in a bus, like, it's like just some bumps on the road. Like.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
You're not really dropping in altitude. Sometimes it may feel like it, but it's just, you know.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
I think because Taylor's dad was a pilot for so long, like, I think that's why he's so comfy, and he, like, like, understands things. Part of me is like, I don't know if I, like, want to know, but I do kind of want to know.
Rachel Recchia
Knowing really helps. It makes you feel more in control. Especially like, if you're like, okay, I'll be flying for 30 minutes, and then it's gonna get a little bumpy. And then. Or, like, why does it happen? Like, I'll quiz her. I'll be like, why is it bumpy? She's like, because we're over a mountain. So, like, when you know why it's bumpy, it can help, too.
Brittany Carter
Yeah, that's like, if a pilot doesn't come over and, like, say, like, it's fine the time of the ride, and, like, if it's gonna be bumpy or not, or if there's, like, even just, like, a slight there, if there's no mention of it, I'm, like, freaking out the whole plane.
Rachel Recchia
Right.
Brittany Carter
I'm like, what am I gonna expect? And they, like, come on. And they're like, it's gonna be a pretty smooth rival. Hit a little bumps here and there, but we'll put the seatbelts on. I'm like, great.
Rachel Recchia
I Feel like I can.
Brittany Carter
I can, like, relax a little more.
Rachel Recchia
Yes. Especially on Delta, too. I feel like Delta, they always are, like, it's gonna be bumpy, and then it's not that bumpy. Like, they will over prepare you on Delta, which is, like, I think, good for some people to know. Even if a little bump is coming, they're gonna tell you.
Brittany Carter
I know. They'll have, like, the flight attendant sit down. They're like. Like, it's bumpy. We're gonna have them sit. And I'm, like, bracing.
Rachel Recchia
And I was like, you're, like, gripping the seats. And the pet attendants are on their phone, like, laughing, chatting. They're getting a break.
Brittany Carter
I know, I know. Sometimes I think the pilots. I'm like, I tell myself that the pilots are like, there's, like, maybe a bump. So they're just, like, being cautious and letting.
Rachel Recchia
Yeah. Like, relax, which they let them sit down, have a break. They've done enough today.
Brittany Carter
We do have to talk about your boobs.
Rachel Recchia
Oh, yeah. I love to talk about those. Yes, we love.
Brittany Carter
We love talking about them.
Rachel Recchia
My favorite.
Brittany Carter
Two years ago, did you first.
Rachel Recchia
So I've had two. First one was March of 2024. August of 2024. In March of 2023, I got two.
Brittany Carter
You just after the first one, was it still not enough?
Rachel Recchia
I just think. Well, for me, I think my surgeon, he was like, I don't know, he wanted to leave a little bit more on. And I had this vision of, like, having nothing. Like, I wanted, like, an a B. And so then I felt like after the first time, I don't know if they kind of grew or if they just dropped, but they were still just a little too big. The second one was definitely aesthetic. The first one was 100 for, like, my back and my.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
Lifestyle. But now I'm like, I love being, like, having nothing. It's like, my dream. I always wanted to have this. So I've, like, never been happier. And everyone's like, should I do it? I'm like, yes. I love that thing ever. It, like, has improved my life so much.
Brittany Carter
So you really were, like, having, like, back problem. Like, physically.
Rachel Recchia
Yeah, physically it would hurt. And just, like, I'm a smaller person. Like, I'm five foot two, so I always feel like it just never fit my body. I was so uncomfortable. Like, I could be the lightest weight and I would still feel.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
Like, I just didn't look right. I just didn't feel like it fit me. So aesthetically, being able to run in the treadmill, not Having, like, the deep indents from a bra, like, everything. It was just like, I just didn't like having them. Some women, like, I'm like, they love it. I just was not meant to have them.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
I feel so much better.
Brittany Carter
Were you met with backlash online when you did it or what was, like, response from people?
Rachel Recchia
I was, like, really nervous to tell people because I feel like there is such a situation, stigma behind any sort of plastic surgery, which, by the way, I'm such a fan. And like, whatever anyone wants to do to make themselves feel better, I think they should do it. But I feel like, because people were like, oh, she's doing it for aesthetics, like, they wouldn't support it. But, like, I get messages even to this day, every day of people being like, I just got mine. And you, like, gave me the courage to go to my doctor. And I feel so much better. So I'm like, if I could help a couple people, like, I feel good talking about it.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
Because, like, it really just does improve, like, your back and your shoulders. Like, I used to get neck pain just from, like, hunching.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
So, yeah, it's been the best decision ever. Shout out. Dr. Farouz changed my life.
Brittany Carter
I love that.
Rachel Recchia
So good.
Brittany Carter
I feel like that's been. I don't know if it's just like, now we're like, at the age and people are getting their boobs done. But, like, I had Lindsey Arnold on not that long ago and she got her boobs done.
Rachel Recchia
Yeah. A lot of people are getting them done now. I feel like more than back in the day and no one was getting it. Now I'm like, the boob job is back and the tramp sim is back and girls are back. Like, I love it. Like, it's giving, like, Holly Madison. Yes, I know.
Brittany Carter
But I feel like it's like people are now, I think, getting behind it.
Taylor Lauc
And it.
Brittany Carter
It was really cool for me to, like, Lindsay, who's like, you know, a mom, she does want more kids, so she was, like, wanting them to drop a little bit more. But, like, here, like, she lit up literally the same as you. Like, talking about.
Rachel Recchia
I love it. Like, I've had so many friends. Like, Charity got her son, and I'm like, they look so good. I love women just getting what they want.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
Because it's like, you know, we don't get to control what we're born with and having, like, the control over it and, like, feeling good. It's like, you can't.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
You can't have it any better.
Brittany Carter
Than you can also take them out.
Rachel Recchia
Exactly. Like, and if a couple years from now they're over it, like, we can always get them out, which is good.
Brittany Carter
That's so good. Also, you had, like, a kidney infection or something.
Rachel Recchia
Yeah, Bad. It was like, what happened? Kidney infection. So I got a kidney infection. Didn't know I had it. They had me on, like, medication that. Like, oral medication, and I didn't know, but it. It was so severe that, like, it was resistant to, like, every single antibiotic.
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Rachel Recchia
So by the time I got to the hospital, it was, like, so bad. It spread all the way through all my, like, stuff. I don't know, stois, muscles, back muscles, everything had an infection. And they were giving me all this medication and nothing was, like, working. So I was literally in the hospital and they were like, taking biopsy of it to try to figure out the one antibiotic that would help it. And I got. It was actually, like, crazy because it affected so much, like, my weight and, like, a lot of things that people have been seeing now, and I'm like. Like, I didn't have control over it. I had a pick line.
Brittany Carter
I was gonna say. I. I feel like. I remember, like, you, like, showing you had, like, a central liner.
Rachel Recchia
Yeah, I had a pick line because it was like, I had to give myself medication for, like, it was like, a month after. And so, yeah, even then. And then I had to go back and make sure everything was gone. And it was still kind of there, but they're, like, enough that you could get it out. It was crazy. Yeah. So it just, like the smallest thing if, like, that is crazy.
Brittany Carter
Do they know, like, what happened?
Rachel Recchia
I think it was a uti.
Brittany Carter
Shut up.
Rachel Recchia
Yeah, I think it was, but, like, it just went. It was such a bad infection. Like, it just went through every muscle in my back. It was absolutely insane. I don't know how it happened. It just, like, got out of control and I didn't go on the right medication because they didn't know. Yeah, it was resistant to, like, everything. So, yeah, it was crazy. I lost a lot of weight. It, like, affected my body. And then I went right into Perfect Match, like, a couple weeks after. So I was going into Perfect Match, like, my lowest weight ever. Which is crazy because I see all these comments online, and people are like, obviously all the accusations and you're dealing with everything. I'm like, you guys, I had a PICC line in a week before, like, fresh out the arm. So, yeah, it was crazy, but feeling obviously so much better now.
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Rachel Recchia
Almost two weeks. It was like, like, 13. Yeah, almost two weeks over. Like, an infection. They would not let me leave. Yeah, it was crazy.
Brittany Carter
How was that? Like, mentally?
Rachel Recchia
No, it was fine. I was watching Perfect Match season two. I was watching. I was having a great time. I was like. No one was speaking to me, but, yeah, just after. And, like, the way it affected my body, it was, like, definitely hard on the body. Yeah.
Brittany Carter
And you're, like, fine now?
Rachel Recchia
Yeah, totally fine now. But, yeah, it was a. It was crazy. Crazy.
Brittany Carter
The kidney stuff is no joke because Taylor had a kidney stone before. It was actually while I was still working in the hospital. He got one, and I was working nights, and he was out with his friends getting dinner, and he called me and he was like, I think I have a kidney stone. I'm going to, like, this hospital in Santa Monica. I was like, no, you're not. I was working at Northridge Hospital. I was like, no, you're not. You're coming, because if you come up, you're coming to my unit, so. And I was working the next night, too, and I was like, I'm not that, like, if you're staying in a hospital, because, like, sometimes you get admitted, sometimes you don't. But watching him, like, go through that.
Rachel Recchia
I heard that's, like, equivalent to childbirth. Is that true? Like, passing a kidney stone?
Brittany Carter
I have no clue.
Taylor Lauc
I.
Brittany Carter
We need to. Women. If you're watching this and you've had both kidney stone and childbirth, I heard it's like, I would wake up in the middle. It was. I think Taylor's lasted.
Taylor Lauc
He.
Brittany Carter
It took him, like, three days to pass it, but he. I'd, like, wake up in the middle of the night, and he was, like, doubled over on the bed, like.
Rachel Recchia
Like, pale, like, sweating. I was honestly hoping mine was a kidney stone, because I'm like, then it'll just, like, go be over. Like, I remember, like, when I was going to the hospital, I was, like, crawling on the floor, just bawling my eyes out, and I'm like, someone take me to the hospital. Like, it's just insane. The kidneys will. They'll get you.
Brittany Carter
They're like the silent killer now. I'm always, like, scared if I feel like I'm dehydrated and my back starts to hurt, I'm like, huh?
Rachel Recchia
Like, just, like, chugging water. Like, please, like, just get the filtration.
Brittany Carter
Well, what did it for Taylor was we had just gotten a sauna, like, a little, like, at home. Sauna.
Rachel Recchia
Does that Affect the kidney if you're.
Brittany Carter
Sweating and you're not hydrating. Oh, my gosh.
Rachel Recchia
I would have never put that together.
Brittany Carter
Yeah, so. Because it was literally the most random thing. Like, he doesn't. It could happen if you have, like, there's different kinds of stones that can happen. Like, if you are eating, like, a lot of foods that are, like, high, not in calcium, but in something else. And there's a lot of different causes. But for him, what I think it was was he was sitting in the sauna for, like, 45 minutes and not.
Rachel Recchia
Like, drinking water, because you would need, like, electrolytes, too, which, if I'm not hungover, like, I'm not drinking the electrolytes. I know. Like, he's literally losing all the, like, salt in his body.
Brittany Carter
I know.
Rachel Recchia
Oh, my goodness.
Brittany Carter
So now I'm like, you're cautious. Yeah, I drink a lot of water. And he is also now drinking water because he's like, I do not.
Rachel Recchia
Can't go through that again.
Brittany Carter
Cannot. I'm curious. Before we head into our little game to end a couple, like, final questions, but after going through all of this bachelor stuff, a lot of, you know, relationship, mental health, things that you endured, what advice would you, like, give your younger self?
Rachel Recchia
Oh, my gosh. I would love to sit here and be like, oh, I'm so good at this. Like, I'm so healed. Like, I just feel like I. For me, I have to. Like, this is so Pisces. I have to feel it. Like, I have to lay in bed and cry and be sad for days. And then I come out of it. Like, if I try to be like, all right, I'm gonna walk and journal and be better, I'm pushing it down. And that's when it takes me so long to get over it. I think allowing myself to feel everything as badly as it hurts, it really is the only way for me to get through it. Like, I have to just watch the sad movies and listen to Taylor Swift and. And then I come out on the other side.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
Sometimes how we're feeling as we're watching the summer, I turn pretty right now also. What are you most proud of yourself for?
Rachel Recchia
Oh, my gosh. I feel like I definitely have come really far since I first started. Yeah, I think I'm, like, really resilient, which I'm proud of.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
I think a lot of people would have, like, been through maybe a couple things I've been through and been like, all right, I'm done. But I always, like, keep trying. So I think that's something to be proud of.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
What. What's next for you? Like, would you do another reality show?
Rachel Recchia
It depends.
Brittany Carter
You think in there.
Rachel Recchia
I, like, never say never because I always said I'm like, I'm done. And then Perfect Match came and I'm so grateful for it. So I think dating wise, I really do feel like I. Yeah, I feel great about trying my person, you know, just wasn't there. But, like, if something came along that made sense, I would think about it. But, yeah, I'm excited to, like, also just fly and, like, also go back to what I always wanted to do.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
This has been, like, obviously life changing and amazing couple years, but going back to, like, what I love too.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah, I love it.
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Brittany Carter
Normalcy, truly in it too. I feel like that's. That's when you know that someone like, I feel like you have a very, like, level head on your shoulders because.
Rachel Recchia
Well, sometimes to a degree.
Brittany Carter
To a degree. But no, people, like, go on. These shows are like, okay, great. I'm going to be an influencer. And I'm just. This is what, like, which is great.
Rachel Recchia
Like, the opportunities, but it's just like, it's so short.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
It really is. So it's like, I feel grateful when I get the opportunities, but I know they're not forever. And so I think that's important to also for people to keep in mind. It could bring you amazing things, but always have.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
Or like, use it to get where you want. And mine is just, like, not in that avenue.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
Maybe. Maybe there'll be a show about pilots and that'd be amazing of me. And Pilot Pete could be on it.
Brittany Carter
Oh, my gosh.
Rachel Recchia
I'm trying to think. There's two Pilot Pete. It's me. There has to be more aviation people.
Brittany Carter
You really should. You'd, like, make. What's the.
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Brittany Carter
That. Caitlin Colton.
Rachel Recchia
Are you my first? Are you my first?
Brittany Carter
Maybe there's like a. Maybe there's like a spin off, like, Mile High. I don't know.
Rachel Recchia
Oh.
Brittany Carter
Thought it would get Netflix that BAE.
Rachel Recchia
Is coming for me now. The ntsp. I'm doing so many bad things. We're just kidding. This is a legend. Joking, Joking.
Brittany Carter
Okay.
Rachel Recchia
We're gonna play a game. I'm excited.
Brittany Carter
I have things.
Rachel Recchia
Okay.
Brittany Carter
So this game is called Sweet and Sour. One side says sweet, one side says sour. We're gonna discuss things that men do.
Rachel Recchia
I love talking shit about men.
Brittany Carter
Where's a good one to start? Where's Tank Tops?
Rachel Recchia
I feel like I could be into a tank top. I think they're horrible. Not like a spaghetti strap.
Brittany Carter
It's like a muscle tee. That's like.
Rachel Recchia
I could get into a tank top, but not all the time.
Brittany Carter
I think there needs to be a little substance.
Rachel Recchia
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
For a tank top.
Rachel Recchia
That's a good one, though, because sometimes the tank top is a little cringe.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
Sometimes it's a bit much. Sometimes has his mom's name tattooed on himself.
Rachel Recchia
Oh, that's cute.
Brittany Carter
That could be, like, either way. Yeah, I'm in the middle for that one.
Rachel Recchia
I do like a good relationship with the mom, but not, like, crazy.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
You know, there's. There has to be a little bit of a middle.
Brittany Carter
Respects his mom but doesn't rely on his mom.
Rachel Recchia
Yes, yes, exactly.
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Rachel Recchia
I like it. I want him. I want him to tattoo his name. My name.
Brittany Carter
Taylor and I have our wedding anniversary. I love tattoo. That's his only tattoo.
Rachel Recchia
Yeah. No, I think that's cute. The wedding anniversary or the name.
Brittany Carter
Considers himself an influencer.
Rachel Recchia
No, please. I don't want that anymore. Like, I can't. Like, I. I'm the one posting.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
You can't be trying to post, too.
Brittany Carter
I feel like if it's, like, they actually get good people. I feel like love is blind. You would enjoy. Like, you would be good like that.
Rachel Recchia
But I don't think love is blind. I'll go on the record.
Brittany Carter
Yes. No, that's very.
Rachel Recchia
I know. I would see that person and be like. Like, I could. I like connecting emotionally, but you have to be hot.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
I just feel like the guys on that one are sweeter. Like, more like. Yeah, they're not going to, like, be an influence. Like, obviously some of them go on to, like, do social media, but I feel like you're more likely to know.
Rachel Recchia
I mean, I'm all for do the social media, but also have an idea of, yeah, go build something.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
Have a job. Yeah, you have to.
Brittany Carter
Has been on dating shows.
Rachel Recchia
Oh. I feel like I can't judge because I've done four, so I literally cannot judge.
Brittany Carter
Fair enough. Fair enough. Take stance classes.
Rachel Recchia
Okay. I'm gonna do this because I can't fight with Clayton anymore. I literally can't fight with this man Clayton for me.
Brittany Carter
We love you, Clayton. We love you. He knows I love him. He knows I love him. Wants to move in together.
Rachel Recchia
After six months of dating, I'm in. I'm into that. Like, yeah, be with me immediately. Like, want to get me. I'm into love bombing.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
Because I believe it.
Brittany Carter
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
Like, I'm like, oh, they have never met anyone like me before.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
Why would they not feel like that?
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
I feel like that was Taylor and I, like, I'd never, like, like, didn't. Well, I guess when we started dating, we did long distance for three months because he was filming and I was in nursing school. He was filming in London. So we'd like.
Rachel Recchia
So that's a lot. That's time zone difference, too. Yeah.
Brittany Carter
But then after that, I like. No, I never really left immediately.
Rachel Recchia
Want. Yeah, Yeah, I think so.
Brittany Carter
Orders for you.
Rachel Recchia
I think it can. Okay. I'm in between. Because sometimes I do, like when a man's, like, takes charge, but, like. Like, I like it when he already knows what I like.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
And it's like, oh, she likes this.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
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Brittany Carter
I'm for that. Yeah, I love that.
Rachel Recchia
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
That's my favorite quality about Taylor. He loves a face mask. I'm like, perfect.
Rachel Recchia
The little eye patches.
Brittany Carter
Yeah, no, that's his signature. Every morning he puts them on.
Rachel Recchia
We like a man who takes care of his skin.
Brittany Carter
Yes.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah, we do.
Brittany Carter
It's very important. Is in touch with his emotions.
Rachel Recchia
I like that. Yeah, I'm very into that.
Brittany Carter
They do be real every day.
Rachel Recchia
You like. You are such a Pisces, too, because me and you are immediately, like, move in with me immediately. Be in touch with your emotions. We are such a Pisces.
Brittany Carter
Yes.
Rachel Recchia
Merge souls with me. Get married at first.
Brittany Carter
Become one. What I just say, oh, they do.
Rachel Recchia
Be real every day.
Brittany Carter
I don't.
Rachel Recchia
Is that still a thing?
Brittany Carter
I don't know.
Rachel Recchia
I think too much. Social media, I don't like too much.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
How about the Snapchat?
Rachel Recchia
I don't like the Snapchat thing either. Like, if you asked me for a Snapchat, I would. No.
Brittany Carter
Immediately know.
Rachel Recchia
No, not over the age of 25.
Brittany Carter
No. My girlfriend, who's 30, I'm 28, she's 30. She was telling me that a guy, like, had asked for her Snapchat and they were Snapchatting. I said, you're gonna be done. Thank you.
Rachel Recchia
If I saw that little ghost notification pop up on my phone, I was like a jump scare. Like, I would feel like I'm in college. I can't deal with that again. No, you can text me or call me. Like, be an adult. No, no, no.
Brittany Carter
More Snapchat splitting the bill.
Rachel Recchia
Oh, no.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
Wait, no, no. I'm, like, looking at it. Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
No, I think I haven't dealt with that. Too much. Which I've been lucky.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
No, but also, like, I mean, eventually.
Rachel Recchia
Like, once you're dating, you could do, like, I'll get it.
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Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
While you're courting someone. But I also think, like, I don't. I don't. Like, Like, I have a friend. When he was seeing this girl, he was like, love bombing her with things like flowers. And, like, they go. Say it like the Rosewood. I'm like, yes. Like, you're setting the bar way too high, like, with that.
Rachel Recchia
And then he can keep doing it.
Taylor Lauc
I mean. Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
Forever.
Brittany Carter
They did it. They are dating.
Rachel Recchia
So I guess it was doing something right.
Brittany Carter
I know.
Rachel Recchia
Love bombing works when you follow through.
Brittany Carter
I know. Isn't Bachelor Nation.
Rachel Recchia
He is.
Brittany Carter
No, I'm saying, who.
Rachel Recchia
Your friends in masturbation. I'm like, are we gossiping? Who is it?
Brittany Carter
You're like, who told me no. Would you date a guy in Bachelor Nation?
Rachel Recchia
Would I date a guy in Bachelor Nation? Maybe. Yeah. I feel like it's nice to have gone through similar things. Like someone who knows what I've been through.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
It would just depend.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
How about they post lip syncing Tick tocks?
Rachel Recchia
Oh, I don't know. I would say no, please.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
Don't do it. Last one still follows their ex.
Rachel Recchia
I think, in.
Brittany Carter
Well, I actually have to say sweet because.
Rachel Recchia
Yeah, I follow some of my exes and I feel like in our, like, reality dating world, like, we are kind of like.
Taylor Lauc
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
Friends. So I would say.
Brittany Carter
Okay, actually, last one wants to make out in public.
Rachel Recchia
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
No, I'm a. No, no.
Rachel Recchia
Pda. I love pda.
Brittany Carter
I like pda. I like. I like affection pda.
Rachel Recchia
Like holding hands.
Brittany Carter
Yeah.
Rachel Recchia
No tonguing in.
Brittany Carter
I don't like talking in public.
Rachel Recchia
Okay. I do.
Brittany Carter
I'll allow it.
Rachel Recchia
She'll just. You can watch me do it.
Brittany Carter
Yeah, that's fine.
Rachel Recchia
You guys can hold hands. I like for it.
Brittany Carter
I think because my parents, like, weren't like that.
Rachel Recchia
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
That's just like, not like. I mean, my parents have been happily married. They're high school sweethearts. But they're not, like, goals making out. Like, they're not like.
Rachel Recchia
They're not. They're not.
Brittany Carter
They're either. Not like physical touch people.
Rachel Recchia
Yeah.
Brittany Carter
So I think.
Rachel Recchia
What's your love language?
Brittany Carter
Acts of service.
Rachel Recchia
Mine too. Mine too. I think we're the same person. I know.
Brittany Carter
That's clearly what we've learned from this episode. Well, I'm so happy. I literally could. I'd like, I just looked at the time. I'm like, we need to. I've kept you here for.
Rachel Recchia
Thank you so much. I've been so excited for this and I feel like, honestly, I've done so many podcasts, like, since the show, this one has been so different. So thank you. I appreciate it. Like you asking, like, really great questions. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.
Host: Taylor Lautner (Tay)
Guest: Rachel Recchia
Date: September 3, 2025
This episode of "The Squeeze" centers on Rachel Recchia, well-known from "The Bachelor," "The Bachelorette," and recent reality TV crossovers. Rachel joins hosts Taylor Lautner (Tay) and Brittany Carter for a candid, often vulnerable conversation about closure, personal growth, and navigating mental health challenges in the public eye. The discussion explores Rachel’s journey through reality television, the impact of fame on her self-esteem, her career in aviation, experiences with online criticism, her perspective on cosmetic surgery, and what she learned about herself moving forward. The tone stays light, empathetic, and refreshingly honest.
Timestamps: 00:01–03:35
“I cry all the time, but it also is like, happiness. It's just. It fits everything… it’s literally my brand at this point.” —Rachel Recchia (03:04)
Timestamps: 04:27–14:20
On "Perfect Match" and Reuniting With Exes (Clayton):
"We talk about it. Like, it was kind of—I feel like, always gonna happen because we had such a horrific breakup that one network or someone was gonna want to see us reunite. I never would have thought it would have been on Netflix.” —Rachel (06:35)
“We talked on the phone for two hours, and we finally were like, we're not ever meant to be, but like, we want the best for each other.” —Rachel (07:27)
Comparing Netflix and Bachelor (Tone and Culture):
“I only dated the Love Island guys…their mindset and my mindset is just different.” —Rachel (08:19)
Thoughts on Current Bachelor Franchise & Paradise:
“I hate it. Put it on a record. I hate it. And I feel bad for everyone that did it. Like, they didn't sign up for that." —Rachel (10:00)
Timestamps: 17:19–24:35
Why Rachel Joined "The Bachelor":
“I just was like, you know what? I'm gonna sign up for the Bachelor…someone basically telling me I would never find anyone. And so I was, like, trying to prove him wrong. And then it ended up changing my life, which is crazy.” —Rachel (17:49)
Repercussions of Notoriety:
“That season was, like, a lot of suffering…people watch, they don't like to watch people suffer.” —Rachel (18:31)
"They called me two weeks after...I was still working at my flight school." —Rachel (20:07)
Double Bachelorette Format:
“There’s gonna be one that you like more. So obviously I was one that they didn’t like more. So that was hard.” —Rachel (22:40)
Timestamps: 24:35–28:09
Processing and Closure:
“There was a side of me that was so insecure…No one wants to watch that back, and I had to. And it was hard…but it really helped me.” —Rachel (24:49)
"I felt like leaving Paradise on my own terms...that was my closure." —Rachel (26:53)
Tackling Online Backlash and Comparing Experiences:
"Especially Bachelorette. Especially because there was someone there who was more likable. I just got all the heat, and after that, I'm like, I can do anything if I can handle that." —Rachel (27:49)
Timestamps: 31:50–36:09
Origin of Anxiety:
“It's not something I deal with in my everyday life. Like, it really is just in the heat of a show… it's not normal for humans to…have a million people telling you what you're like.” —Rachel (32:02)
Social Media Strategy:
“Don't go shopping for pain…if you look for it, it's gonna be there.” —Rachel (34:24)
Timestamps: 39:14–43:56
Choosing Aviation:
“I feel like I'm very lucky I always knew what I wanted to do…I don't remember a time not knowing.” —Rachel (39:53)
Facing Sexism and Judgment:
“They all sat around and watched it and made fun of me…They are difficult, they're tough. It's been difficult going just not only through flight school as a woman, but now having all this where it's so easily accessible for them to see all these embarrassing things I've done and be like, all right, now take me seriously.” —Rachel (40:36)
Present Role:
Timestamps: 45:37–48:59
“I feel like there is such a situation, stigma behind any sort of plastic surgery…But I get messages even to this day, every day, of people being like, you gave me the courage to go to my doctor.” —Rachel (47:26)
Timestamps: 49:16–52:05
“It just went through every muscle in my back. It was absolutely insane. I don’t know how it happened…it was resistant to like everything.” —Rachel (50:44)
Timestamps: 54:22–57:12
Advice to Younger Self:
“For me, I have to…feel it. Lay in bed and cry…and then I come out of it.” —Rachel (54:43)
What She’s Proud Of:
“I think I’m really resilient, which I’m proud of…I always keep trying.” —Rachel (55:32)
Future Plans:
Timestamps: 57:47–end
"Love bombing works when you follow through." —Rachel (63:19)
“If you asked me for a Snapchat, I would. No. No, not over the age of 25.” —Rachel (62:12)
“What's your love language? … Acts of service. Mine too. Mine too.” —Rachel & Brittany (64:57)
Summary prepared for those seeking in-depth insight and inspiration from Rachel Recchia’s post-Bachelor journey, with timestamps for easy navigation.