Tish Cyrus: Prioritizing Peace

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Squeeze – Tish Cyrus: Prioritizing Peace
Release date: January 14, 2026
Host: Taylor Lautner
Guests: Tish Cyrus, Brandi Cyrus

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Overview

This emotionally rich episode of The Squeeze features Tish Cyrus, matriarch of the Cyrus family, producer, manager, entrepreneur, and co-host of the podcast "Sorry, We’re Cyrus." Tish joins Taylor Lautner and Brandi Cyrus to discuss her unique parenting journey in the spotlight, healing after immense personal loss, her evolving relationship with mental health, and how she’s learned to prioritize peace. The conversation openly addresses the complexities of grief, family in the limelight, anxiety, self-medicating, and the transformative power of support and self-acceptance.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Parenting in the Public Eye

• Navigating Childhood Fame:
  • Tish describes how the family’s entry into entertainment was organic, not forced ("It really does just happen.” [09:05])
  • She shares the importance of normalcy despite fame, recounting Miley’s early days and Noah’s evolving passions.
  • On balancing attention and affirming successes for all children, regardless of their public profile:

    “In any other family, [Trace selling 4 million records] would be the biggest success ever ... but the truth is, as anybody else... [it] is not actually reality for most people.” [21:10–22:35]

  • Tish stresses the importance of keeping children grounded and present, making family time a priority even during busy touring schedules.

2. Media Scrutiny and Social Media Challenges

• From Tabloids to TMZ:
  • Tish delineates the shift from print tabloids (like the Inquirer and Star) to the 24/7 online cycle, and the intensification paparazzi brought into their daily lives.
  • She describes harrowing experiences with paparazzi, especially incidents endangering Miley during her driving lessons ([32:04–33:05]).
  • On media rumors:

    “We've been there before. She’s been pregnant with Juicy J’s baby ... and that was on every cover of every magazine.” [27:25]

• Impact on Mental Health:
  • The hosts and Tish discuss the toll of relentless public scrutiny and how it affects celebrities and their families, with social media amplifying negativity and hateful commentary ([29:01–29:50]).
  • Tish openly considers this scrutiny as the main reason she sometimes would not wish show business on her kids.

3. Mental Health, Grief, and Healing

• Loss and Major Life Changes:

  • Tish recounts losing her mother during the pandemic, followed shortly by her divorce after nearly 30 years of marriage ([41:40–43:32]).
  • She admits she kept “just moving” through tragedy, not pausing to process her grief until later:

    “Two of the most probably tragic things in my life that happened, I did not process or even stop to really think about.” [03:02, 43:32]

• Self-Medicating and Anxiety:

  • Tish reflects on using marijuana heavily during this era to numb pain, realizing later it was self-medicating:

    “I think for that ... that was almost like medicine for me ... I was self-medicating in some ways and didn’t even realize it.” [44:21–43:33, 53:09]

  • After quitting, she experienced debilitating anxiety, highlighting how unresolved emotions surfaced when numbing stopped:

    “I stopped smoking. And all of a sudden, a week later, I am just in full on anxiety to the point, like, not functioning.” [43:17, 45:56]

• Therapy and Stillness:

  • Therapy and her new relationship created a safe space for her to process feelings she had avoided:

    “Once I kind of got still ... it gave me this place to stand still and feel all these feelings. And it was frigging rough.” [45:05]

  • She references “The Body Keeps the Score” to explain how grief and trauma live in the body even when not consciously processed.

• Notable Coping Tools:

  • Walking and being physically active was the main thing that helped Tish during acute anxiety ([57:04]).
  • Support from her current husband provided vital emotional safety.
  • She cautions that breathing exercises initially increased her anxiety, showing the value of personalized tools.

4. Evolution of Love and Relationships

• Healthy Love and Respect:
  • Tish reflects on finding new love later in life and how her definition of partnership has matured:

    “If there’s one thing that you want out of a relationship, it’s respect for each other ... if you respect each other ... that’s just not happening.” [60:29–61:18]

  • She encourages younger listeners not to settle and to recognize the value of mutual respect, communication, and support over drama or “the chase.”
  • Shares anecdote about Brandi (daughter) finding love at 38, rebuffing the fear that it’s “too late” ([62:28–63:50]).
  • On not settling:

    “If there isn’t respect and the kind of love that we’re talking about, don’t stay.” [62:28]

5. Family Myths and Humor

• Lizard People Rumor:
  • Tish humorously debunks the internet myth that the Cyrus family are “lizard people”:

    “That was my all-time favorite. And the fact that someone that seemed pretty smart, like, believed it. Yeah, it was like, this is insane.” [40:49]

6. Marijuana Journey & Podcast Evolution

• Shifting Relationship with Marijuana:
  • Tish details her late introduction to marijuana, its benefits, and eventual drawbacks as a coping mechanism ([50:57–54:50]).
  • Her transparency offers nuanced insight into substance use as self-care and avoidance.
  • Podcast name change from “Sorry, We’re Stoned” to “Sorry, We’re Cyrus” reflects both her personal growth and broader audience reach ([54:50–56:09]).

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On the Impact of Anxiety:

  “I was not functioning for that year. I was just trying to survive. And now ... learning how to deal with it and I’m so much better.”
  —Tish Cyrus [46:09]

• On Empathy and Mental Health:

  “You feel so alone ... it is the worst part of it. And I think when I would hear other people talk about it and realize, like, you can overcome it—that’s so helpful.”
  —Tish Cyrus [47:09]

• On Parenting Successes:

  “I’m most proud of ... just raising the most incredible children. They’re all just really grounded and awesome and, like, thriving in life and happy and that’s all I could ask for.”
  —Tish Cyrus [66:50–67:50]

• On Respect in Relationships:

  "If there's one thing that you want out of a relationship, it's respect for each other. Because you're not going to be screaming and yelling and calling your partner names ... if you respect each other."
  —Tish Cyrus [61:18]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Tish’s Experience of Loss and Grief: [41:40–47:12]
• Public Scrutiny and Paparazzi Stories: [24:40–33:15]
• Mental Health Struggles & Marijuana Use: [43:32–54:50]
• Advice on Relationships and Self-Respect: [59:43–63:50]
• Family Myths (“Lizard People”): [39:02–41:11]
• Tools for Coping with Anxiety: [57:04–58:26]
• Reflections on Singlehood and Not Settling: [62:28–64:54]
• Proudest Achievements: [66:47–67:50]

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Tone & Style

The entire episode is candid, warm, and sprinkled with humor—even in tough discussions. Tish’s openness about pain and healing is deeply humanizing, while Brandi and Taylor’s questions maintain a supportive, empathetic environment.

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Final Takeaways

• You are not alone: There is immense value in hearing others’ struggles; shared vulnerability dissolves stigma.
• Healing is nonlinear: Grief and anxiety can catch up to even the strongest among us—stillness can trigger profound processing and growth.
• Healthy relationships require true respect, communication, and presence.
• It’s never too late for love, or to start over.
• Embrace humor, even in the wildest rumors—and don’t believe everything you read.

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For listeners, this episode offers compassionate validation and practical hope—reminding us all to prioritize peace and presence, no matter where we start.

Transcript

[Tish Cyrus]

The following podcast is a Dear Media Production I did not know what was happening during the time I lost my mom and my marriage fell apart. That that was like self medicating in some ways and that I didn't even realize that I was doing it for that reason. Star's parents have certainly been in the headlines lately over speculation of recent family drama. I've been very open that I was a major weed smoker no matter what it was. I do think it kind of numbed all that pain and then I stopped smoking. All of a sudden. A week later, I full on anxiety to the point like not functioning. Anything that's happened, I kind of am like, well that's life, just keep it moving. I lost my mom in 2020. My marriage started falling apart. I'd been in this relationship since I was 23 or 24. I was not functioning. I was just trying to survive. Not long after that met my now husband which was amazing. It being so awesome and you know, new. Two of the most probably tragic things in my life that happened I did not process or e even stop to really think about. Yeah, once I kind of got still and it was in this beautiful relationship with my husband now, it gave me this place to stand still and feel all these feelings and it was freaking rough. It's the roughest thing I've ever gone through.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

100%. Foreign.

[Podcast Host]

Drops welcome back to another episode of the Squeeze. We are so excited to have you here with us for another Wednesday. Hope that your January is off to a good start. Maybe you're still on track with those New Year's resolutions, those goals. And remember, it's not too late to start a new goal.

[Brandi Cyrus]

I feel like I always get overwhelmed.

[Podcast Host]

At the beginning and want to do all of these things at once and then I end up only doing a couple and then feeling like it's too late to start a new goal or intention or resolution or routine, whatever it may be. But remember, it's never too late to start and if you're new here, welcome. We are so excited to have you. Be sure to subscribe and follow along so that you can stay up to date with all of our latest episodes and that you don't miss out on exciting new content. I'm super excited for today's episode. I have Tish Cyrus on Today. She is a producer, manager and entrepreneur and the matriarch of the Cyrus family. She spent decades behind the scenes in the entertainment industry helping guide her kids careers while also protecting their childhoods. Tish has produced films like the Last song. And she now co hosts the podcast Sorry, We're Cyrus with her daughter Brandi. She's also been open about her mental health journey, navigating deep grief after the loss of her mother and the end of a nearly 30 year marriage and what it looked like to start over and rebuild her life. In today's conversation, Tish shares what motherhood has taught her, how she prioritized healing, and how her definition of healthy love has changed over the years. Mama Tish has an amazing story, and I cannot wait for you guys to hear it. Tish, welcome to the Squeeze.

[Tish Cyrus]

Thanks. I'm so excited.

[Brandi Cyrus]

I am so excited. I recently just did your podcast, so I'm excited to chat again. I feel like I honestly could have just sat on your couch and, like, talked with you.

[Tish Cyrus]

I felt the exact same forever. I'm so. I'm glad we're doing this.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah, I know. I came home and Taylor was like, how was it? And I was like, oh, my gosh, I love her. He was like, I had a feeling you were going to say that, but I was thinking before this, like, I'm so happy that I'm meeting you, because I feel like later on in life.

[Podcast Host]

I'm gonna be calling you for parenting advice.

[Tish Cyrus]

Please do.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Like, actually, I am. Like, I feel like you're, like, everyone's mom. Like, in the best way. Like, when I think of, like, moms that are in the spotlight, I think of you.

[Tish Cyrus]

Yeah. So I think it's like. Cause, like, Molly and Taylor, like, they did start, like, so young.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

And the fans that were. Have. Have grown up with them.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

I've always been such a huge part of, you know, Molly's life and at all the shows. And so I think that those kids have kind of just grown up with me as that mom figure.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

Because it's so funny because everybody, like, most of the people online are calling me Mama Tish.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

And it's just so funny to me because Brandi's always like, why are you asking my mother for advice? But I feel like I did. I did. Okay. My kids turned out pretty freaking good, so. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Yeah, it's great.

[Brandi Cyrus]

I also just think. Think it's like, your energy, too. Like, you're just very warm and welcoming. So I think that's why people are like, oh, like Mama Tish. Like, it's just.

[Tish Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Brandi Cyrus]

It's cozy and it's sweet. We start each episode off with this jar.

[Podcast Host]

Okay.

[Brandi Cyrus]

It's a game called Citrus Got Real. If you want to pull A little piece of paper out of there and read it to our lemon drops. Those are our listeners.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, cute.

[Tish Cyrus]

Let's see if you could that my art. The stoners that from our podcast. They would know this, but I think I'm gonna say something different. If you could listen to only one song on repeat forever, which one are you picking? So we joke on, but it's not really a joke. I love the song She's My Cherry Pie. You've probably never heard it or you're too young.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah, no, I've heard it.

[Tish Cyrus]

Okay. So we joke about it all the time because I am an 80s rock girl. Okay. So it is my hype song. If I'm in the. Or I'm sad. I am listening to She's My Cherry Pie. So it's just the whole thing. Even my car the other day have a car that has a digital license plate.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Okay. Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

And Molly and I were leaving somewhere, and she was behind me, and all of a sudden she starts honking, and I'm like, what? And she pulls up and goes, your license plate does not say My cherry pie.

[Brandi Cyrus]

But it does.

[Tish Cyrus]

It has the number, and then you can customize it and it says My cherry Pie under it. She was like, mom, this is my favorite thing you've ever done in my whole life.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Brandi Cyrus]

You should get, like, a little cherry pie tattoo. Do you have one?

[Tish Cyrus]

No. And so I have to. I just said this the other day. I have to get one.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Oh, my gosh, that's good. I feel like that is such, like, an underrated. Like, I'm, like, pumped up thinking about this. I'm, like, singing it in my head. Oh, my gosh, that's so good. Yeah, we need to get you some, like, cute little.

[Tish Cyrus]

I need a little cherry pop. For sure. Yeah. Because since the 80s, it has always been my favorite song.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah, I love that. That's so good. Okay, well, I kind of want to dive right in, selfishly, because I kids are in the next phase of my life, and Taylor and I always say, like, I mean, it's really him. He doesn't necessarily want to put his kids into acting and art stuff because it makes him a little nervous. But we always say, like, if that's something they're interested in, like, we'll show them everything.

[Podcast Host]

And if that.

[Brandi Cyrus]

If that's one of the things what they want to pursue, then we will let them. But that's definitely something that him and I get nervous about just because of. He went through it growing up. But what was your like when Miley's career really started taking off. Where were you in the sense? Like, did you have a grasp of the industry? Like, where was your mindset at with that?

[Tish Cyrus]

You know, it was more in music.

[Podcast Host]

Okay.

[Tish Cyrus]

I mean, a little acting, because Billy Ray, you know, country music artist, you know, her whole childhood, and then he did a series in Canada called Doc.

[Podcast Host]

Okay.

[Tish Cyrus]

Which Molly had a very small role on. Okay. And that's kind of when she started, like, just liking it. But it wasn't really something that we really. Like, I think I mentioned to you, like, it wasn't something like she started coming out here and auditioning or anything like that. She was doing competition, cheerleading, and she came to LA to visit just on vacation with one of my friends. And an agent that represented my friend's kids asked if she could send Molly out while she was here for the summer. And kind of out of boredom, we were like, sure. It'll give her something to do while she's there. And she loved it.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

And so I had had the experience, you know, from Billy Ray, but once we got out here, it became a whole. A whole new thing. And something like, I kind of just had to learn along the way.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

Which was scary. But I do think for you guys, you know, like, my kids, I think it was different from my kids and a lot of other kids because we were in this business already and in the public eye and. And all of that, so it was kind of normal for them.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

And I think that makes a huge difference on how, like, this all affects you.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah. That's so true.

[Tish Cyrus]

And since Taylor has been in the spotlight since he was a kid.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

I think, you know, it'll probably be different for your kids.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

And also, like, I did not want to put any of my kids into this business in the beginning. It just happens. Yeah, it really does.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah. When Noah got older and she wanted to start exploring. So were you, like, oh, gosh. Or what was your.

[Tish Cyrus]

Like, I just saw Noah doing an interview where she talks about it, because I, like, you, like, wanted them to be open to all things. And, like, hopefully this wasn't what they chose, especially being young. And so Noah, like, we got really into her. She was an equestrian.

[Podcast Host]

Okay.

[Tish Cyrus]

And so. Which she loved, because my oldest daughter, Brandy, is also a writer. She does jumping and the whole thing. So Noah, from the time she was 10 until she was 16, that's all we did was horses. And that's all she wanted to be a horse trainer or she wanted to be a jumper, do anything in horses. And then sadly, her horse passed away, and he was just the most amazing horse. And, like, there was just this bond between them. And when that happened, she just didn't want to ride anymore. And so she started kind of organically playing music at this little place called Crave Cafe in Studio City with a friend.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, cool.

[Tish Cyrus]

And I'll never forget it because somehow Ron Seacrest found out about it and was talking about it on a morning show, and somebody called and said, oh, my gosh, we're talking about Noel and Ron Seacrest and her playing music at Crave. And she got the bug. And I was like, no. Cause she was 16, and I just wanted her at least to wait till 18. But that didn't happen.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

Now she says she wishes it would have. Yeah. But once they get that in their system, like, it is hard to change their mind. Yeah. Especially when they've grown up watching a parent do it.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

For sure.

[Brandi Cyrus]

And I bet, too, like, having, like, watching Miley do it too, I bet she was like, totally. I want to be like my sister.

[Tish Cyrus]

Totally.

[Brandi Cyrus]

And see the fun that she, like, got to have in the heart.

[Tish Cyrus]

Yeah. And Noah actually did little small roles on Hannah Montana. And then Molly would tour. You know, Noah would be with me, so she'd be on the road with us. And I mean, I should have known that that was actually gonna happen. Yeah.

[Brandi Cyrus]

That's so funny.

[Tish Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

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[Brandi Cyrus]

It's sweet I feel like because we just had Kevin Jonas on the podcast and I feel like everyone now like that whole age group is now like in their 30s and like they kind of like went through the young kid, then the who am I? And now they're like in. Everyone's just in a healthy place and is happy and it's kind. It's really cool just to see how like intertwined everything is but also how like just how happy everyone is. And it's just, it's cool for me obviously because I grew up in that Disney Channel era of Hannah Montana of the Jonas Brothers and like Selena and Demi. That whole was my childhood. So it's really cool now to just see everyone just like happy and healthy and thriving.

[Tish Cyrus]

It is really crazy because I think, I mean they just. It is such a different world when you're a kid in this business.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

But also you're just going through everything in front of the world. Yeah. Where you know I didn't do that like.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

And most people don't.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

And I. So we see kind of everything and we worry about these kids and. And all that they go through. And, I mean, we've seen it with every kid star. But you are right that now it is crazy because, like, Selena's married and happy and Demi looks amazing and she seems really happy. And, you know, just all the kids that grew up that kind of. We watch grow up in front of the world now, being in the 30s, it is. So it's really weird for me to see, like, all these kids being in their 30s is wild.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah, I bet.

[Podcast Host]

I bet.

[Brandi Cyrus]

That's so, like, special too, to, like, just, like, have that, like, we did it. Like, it's. It's come full circ.

[Tish Cyrus]

Yeah, we. We did it and everybody's great and we're all sane. Thank goodness. Yeah. No, it is really great. And. But I will tell you, like, parenting through it is not easy.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah, I know. I was going to ask, like, even, like having five kids, like, how. How do you. Or in hindsight, you know, looking back, how do you navigate making sure you have enough time with each of your kids? Because I know that's something that obviously Taylor has a younger sister. She was not in the industry at all. So I know his parents did a really good job at navigating. Like, Taylor's successes are equal to his sister's successes. And just because one is very well known by others doesn't make, you know, his sister winning their. Their volleyball game, like, any less important. And even just timing wise, like, if one kid's here and this is going on and travels and schedules and sports and all this stuff, how. How do you. How was navigating that? Or what. What advice would you give? Because I imagine that was, like, hard navigating.

[Tish Cyrus]

I think when I was in it. I'm sure it did. I'm sure it was hard to juggle. Yeah, I honestly, I think I've realized it more now that things have quietened down. How crazy my life was for so freaking long. Like, truly. Because, like I said, like, Noah was an equestrian. And, you know, she would win these. Whether she won or she didn't or I needed to be there. So it was like, there were many times I'd be, like, in Brazil, you know, on a South American tour, and then have to fly home for Noah's war show. And this is when she got a little older because I really. I took all the kids on the road with me when I. Because I. I was pretty adamant about being with Molly all the time. Yeah. Because if you can't Be. I think that's. Yeah. Like, things can go wrong. Yeah. And I just. I didn't want that to happen. So instead of just leaving my kids, like, with. Not that this is a bad thing. It was just. What I didn't want to do is I would take Noah and Brazen because they were younger. Brandi was in college. Trace was on the road with Metro station. But Noah and Brazen I would take with us out on the road. And I think that was not only really good for them, it was really good for Molly. And I think it's why she ended up staying just so grounded, is because we did. It was a family thing out on the road. Yeah. But I needed to do that. And then once Noah was a little older and did want to stay behind for different things, that's when the juggling came in of making sure I was at everybody's stuff.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

But I think that's so important. Like, you really have to. And I think. I also think it's really hard. Like, when I look back on, like, Trace's career, for instance, like, within our family, you know, you've got the comparisons to your dad and your sister and the. And, you know, like, Metro Station sold 4 million records, and they were huge. And in any other family, that would be, like, the biggest success ever. And, you know, but Trace feels like, you know, I didn't make it, you know, has all the thoughts of that not being as successful. But the truth is, as anybody else that sold 4 million records and was on the road and having these explosive hits that were in all these movies and TV shows, but compared to, like, a Twilight or, you know, all the things that are so massive, I do think that's hard.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

And it's really important as a parent to keep reminding each of your kids their wins and successes and making sure they understand that kind of what's over here isn't normal.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

You know, like, with Hannah Montana and all of, like, the Twilights, I mean, there's a lot of luck involved in that. You know, there's a lot of talented kids. And, you know, I. I do feel like a lot of people get really lucky to be a part of something so big.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

Because that's not actually reality for most people.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah. And I even, like, think back to when we were talking. I always forget this, but Taylor was, like, in the final three for Camp Rock, like, for that main role, like, and Kevin was like, if you would have gotten that, you probably would have gotten Twilight. And. Same thing. Taylor had auditioned two things. It Was like, two in the same day. One was. I think it's actually. Did Disney do Journey to the center of the Earth, do you know that?

[Tish Cyrus]

I don't know.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Big movie with the Rock, but the Rock was already cast in it, and he auditioned for that. And this book film called Twilight.

[Podcast Host]

He auditioned for both of them.

[Brandi Cyrus]

And his manager called and was like, hey. And Taylor was really wanting this Journey to the center the Earth movie because the Rock was in it. He was like, oh, this will be huge. Hermite career and manager called and was like, you didn't get Journey to the.

[Podcast Host]

Center of the Earth, but you did.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Get this Twilight film. And Taylor was, like, upset, basically, that he didn't get this one thing. But it's so, like. It's just so crazy to look back and, like, Josh Hutcherson ended up getting that, but then Taylor was doing Twilight, and then Josh got Hunger Games. Like, if Taylor would have gotten that, then maybe Josh would have gotten something else, and then maybe Taylor would have been hungry. Like, there's just so many, like, it's all so moving, and there's so many little things that even. Just like, eight years into my relationship with Taylor, I'm still learning all of, like, he'll. We were watching something the other day, and he was like, you know, I auditioned for this, or this person, like, was supposed to be in this, but because of scheduling and, like, there's so many things that we don't realize if you're not, like, in it.

[Tish Cyrus]

Oh, for sure. And I've been in it for eight.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Years, and I still don't know.

[Tish Cyrus]

Yeah. It's so intertwined. And like, all the kids that are. Or even the adult, like, there's always these little groups that are kind of getting everything and. Because, like, I told you. Same thing with Molly. She auditioned for Sharkboy, Lava Girl.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

And got down to, like, the final three. But if she would have gotten that, she probably wouldn't have been able to do Hannah Montana.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

So true. You know, it's because she was, you know, she was bummed when she didn't get that and. Yeah. But then Hannah Montana came right after.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah. How has it been for you with navigating press and everything that you and your family say getting picked up? Because I feel like constantly. I also. Because you have a big family, but there's just always, like, I always just see someone in your family in the media, which, you know, is normal, so to speak, for the level that you and your family are at. But a lot of the times I see stuff And I'm like, what?

[Podcast Host]

Like, why?

[Brandi Cyrus]

What one?

[Tish Cyrus]

Why?

[Brandi Cyrus]

I mean, I question media quite often, but it just makes me think of how, like, even, like, with the Kardashians, how, like, they're like, most of the time, it's like Taylor's situation, how it's one person in the family and, like, his parents aren't in the spotlight at all. The rest of the family isn't. But with families like the Kardashians or your families, like, everyone is. So there is always something going on.

[Tish Cyrus]

Always.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Like, how. How was that in the beginning? And I guess now, like, navigating that.

[Tish Cyrus]

I think, again, I dealt with it so much in such an entirely different way, because when Billy Ray first started, it was the Inquirer and Star magazine, and I forget there was another one that was even worse than both of those. And so that. I think that that started for me, like, when I still lived in Ashland, Kentucky.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

And that's where I grew up. And, like, so Billy Ray was from my hometown. And so I started dealing with that in the early 90s. And it was not fun. It was, like, pretty devastating to me, like, because it was some. A world I didn't know at all. And then I would have people in my little, teeny, tiny hometown, like, jumping out at me with a camera, and I was like, what is happening? But I think once again, with my kids, they grew up with it being a part of their lives, so I don't think it was as devastating to them. Now, for Molly, you know, in the beginning, while she was Hannah Montana, they would do horrible things like the Perez Hiltons, and that was terrible. And there's just no way for that. People that say hurtful things or things that aren't true or no matter what it is deep down, it has to hurt. Like, it just does. Like, it's just yuck. But I think for my kids, kind of knowing what that was and that most things aren't even true or, you know, I think that they were kind of more prepared. Yeah. Than, like, most people in the business. But, you know, like, I forget. I think it was. It was like last week that the news was Molly was pregnant. And I'm just like, we've been there before. She. She's been pregnant with Juicy J's baby. Oh, that my. That was my favorite one. Molly in pregnant. Would you see Jay's baby in rehab? That was, like, probably, like, 10 years ago, and that was on every cover of every magazine. And I'm just, like, I always ask. I'm like, when These things don't happen. Do people not go, oh, this stuff is not real?

[Brandi Cyrus]

I literally. That's. Yep. No, I. I literally do the same thing. My friends will be like, did you see this? I'm like, guys, you. You know. You know what this has been?

[Tish Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Brandi Cyrus]

No, very much so.

[Tish Cyrus]

And then I forget, like, yesterday it came out that Molly had a new something come. Who was that new song with? Somebody. I forget who it was. Yeah. But I am just like, where do they get this? And why can they. It's just wild. And I think for the Kardashians, it's good for their show.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

And so it's like, I definitely think they probably feed some of that a bit.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

With us, it's just like, why does. Why do you care, like, about any of this? But I really don't let it bother me. It's kind of weird that. And that's why I'm in deep therapy for, like, my nervous system is because I. I haven't let. I kind of just push it down and keep it moving. Yeah. And I think my kids are the same. Yeah. But it sucks.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

Like, it sucks because, like, you. My friends will text me or call me and be like, oh, my God, did you see this? I'm so. And I'm just like, no. And I don't want to because, like. Yeah, you know. No. But it's like for me, I just look at all of the press and the. All the hase tabloids. That's such old school, like, press and, you know, the haters and like, like social, like Perez Hilton and TMZ kind of started all of that. I feel like. And then it's led into this place we are with social media.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

And people wanting to tear people down and. And talk crap and the hate. And it's. To me, it's like so sad and devastating.

[Brandi Cyrus]

I know.

[Tish Cyrus]

I really, like, definitely for me, I feel like if there's any reason I wouldn't want my kids in this business, that's it.

[Brandi Cyrus]

I was just going to say that, like, especially with social media, because I feel like with Taylor and Miley, they were just like, fame was really taken off, like, right as social media was like, starting to happen. Like, I think. I think I got an Instagram the year the final Twilight film came out. Like, it was not a thing. And so that makes me nervous for this new generation of kids that are in the spotlight. And I think it's really important that the parents are learned. That the parents learn. And also, like, the teams too. Like, people's management agents, like, they help set boundaries with it and that these kids have people to talk to.

[Tish Cyrus]

I really feel like when Molly and Taylor were first coming out, it was really bad then.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

And like, I think Ivory remember that more than anything that's happened more recently because for me, it was really hard. Like with the Perez Hilton or because there were so many paparazzi. Now with social media, we don't have that as much, which is great. But I think with like Perez and tmz, it was like, why are these grown older men allowed to chase my daughter, my 15 year old daughter down the street with cameras and then say really mean things about her? You know, and it's like, how's that even okay? Like, how is this even legal?

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

Like, for real. Like they were kids.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

And like literally those types of social media, I guess, was the beginning. It was really bad.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

Like, really, really bad. And I remember, like, even for like Vanessa Hudgens, there was a period that they were just going after her. Yeah. And I. I literally don't know how they dealt with it as kids because, I mean, Vanessa, she's amazing. Married and having her second baby, I think, and like you said, happy and an adult and. But like, those times were really hard on the kids.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

But one of the worst for me was when Molly was learning to drive. And it was terrifying. It was in the height of the paparazzi and the car chases and the. It was really scary.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

Like, I'll never forget, we were coming out of Beverly center once and I cannot tell you how many cameras there were. And I'm sure it's online somewhere and Molly's driving and I'm in the passenger seat and I just remember so many flashes that I couldn't see. I was afraid she was going to hit someone because there were so many people in front of the car. Flashes are going off, which makes you not be able to see.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

And we're pulling out and there's just. There's people everywhere. And. And it was scary.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

And there was one other time that we were on the freeway and like four or five different cars were literally chasing us. And one paparazzi hit another one and the bumper like, literally flew off their car. Oh, gosh. And on, like, thank goodness it didn't like, come back and hit us.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

But it was like, this is just not okay. Yeah. This is like, this is like, not okay for anyone. Yeah. But like, we can't do anything about it.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

It's really crazy. Yeah.

[Brandi Cyrus]

I know. I'M hoping that there's like, is some.

[Podcast Host]

Sort of a shift.

[Brandi Cyrus]

I mean, I definitely feel like it's that sense is better for some people or I think the majority of people. And obviously there's some people that, that still follows them wherever.

[Tish Cyrus]

Yep.

[Brandi Cyrus]

But I think it's gotten a little more quiet and safe. But then that makes me like when I have kids, like, what if Taylor's like fully back working and is fully in the entertainment industry and we have kids? And I'm trying to, you know that that's a whole new thing too I'm learning about is like protecting like your kids, like hiding your kid's face.

[Tish Cyrus]

Totally.

[Brandi Cyrus]

All of that stuff. I feel like I'm gonna, I'm very interested in like navigating that.

[Tish Cyrus]

Yeah. I mean, I think in the world we live in today, it's probably the absolute right thing to do.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

You know.

[Podcast Host]

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[Brandi Cyrus]

What do you think people like most often get wrong about your family?

[Tish Cyrus]

Just about our family in general. Yeah. There's not. I don't think. I feel like there's just so many things.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

And you know, I have learned very early on, like we just really don't comment on things because you know, what we've learned through the process is it doesn't matter what your comment is if you're just even saying anything.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

The story continues. You know. Well, Tish said this. Or you know, it just makes it so much worse.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

But I think my favorite thing is that we're lizard people. What? This is a real thing that happened that people thought we. This is even a joke. And this is like, sorry, after the podcast, I will tell you who, but it was somebody that was famous that their girlfriend, like I don't know if that's how it got started or whatever, literally was telling him this, this is guy in a band that when they left, he was like, what is happening? Like, because she was being very strange.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

And she was like, I was so scared. She was like, you know they're lizard people. Right? And he was like, what's that? And she goes, they literally have they like she was dead serious. That. And this is a thing. Lizard people are a thing because we looked it up. But that we zip on our human skin. Like, this is not real. Like underneath I am a lizard. That's my favorite.

[Brandi Cyrus]

So you're here to set the record straight.

[Tish Cyrus]

You are not. There are no zippers like I am. But this was like a thing that started going around.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Okay.

[Tish Cyrus]

Yes. And so that was my all time favorite. And the fact that someone that seemed pretty smart, like, believed it. Yeah, it was like, this is insane.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Oh, wow.

[Tish Cyrus]

Yes.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Okay.

[Tish Cyrus]

That was a good one, though.

[Brandi Cyrus]

You've heard it here first.

[Tish Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Lemon drops.

[Tish Cyrus]

Not lizard. Not lizard. People.

[Brandi Cyrus]

That is not you.

[Tish Cyrus]

Yep.

[Brandi Cyrus]

I know. We kind of mentioned when I saw you last that you've really. You went through a really hard year. Was it last year?

[Tish Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Wait, 2024?

[Tish Cyrus]

Yep.

[Podcast Host]

Okay.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Can you share with our lemon Drops a little bit about what was going on? Obviously, we know you went through a divorce and I think you had lost your mom as well. Can you tell me about that time period for you?

[Tish Cyrus]

Yeah, it's so. It's so weird for me because I lost my mom in 2020. Okay. During COVID And I got divorced, I think 20 top of 2022, maybe. And I kind of like just feel like, like I said, like always in my life I have been so busy that I've just. Anything that's happened, I kind of like, well, that's life. Just keep it moving, you know? And I was very close to my mom and my kids were really close to my mom. Like, she lived with us the whole time Molly was doing Hannah Montana and was helping me with all the kids. And then she, once that was all over, we had got her a little house right beside ours. So, like, she was just a massive part of our lives. And especially like, her and Molly were very close. She'd go to the set with Miley and like, just my kids just worshiped her. And then when she passed, not long after that, my marriage started falling apart. And it was, you know, I'd been in this relationship since I was 23 or 24. And so again, I kept it moving. And I also, not long after that, met my now husband, which was amazing. But I think I went into meeting also my husband and it being so awesome and, you know, new and you're in love and all of the things that I truly did, two of the most probably tragic things in my life that happened, I did not, like, process or even stop to really think about.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

And I really think now that I'm in therapy and also I've been very open that I was a major weed smoker. And I think for that, because I've always had a little bit of anxiety, I do think at that time that was almost like medicine for me because I'm a huge believer in plant medicine. And I think that I was probably had during the time I lost my mom and my marriage fell Apart that that was like self medicating in some ways and that I didn't even realize that I was doing or for that reason. And no matter what it was, I do think it kind of numbed all that pain. And then I stopped smoking. And all of a sudden, a week later, I am just in full on anxiety to the point like not functioning. And I did not know what was happening. And so when I started therapy and I really started telling, talking about my life and you know, moving out here and my kids in the business and like what my life had been, they were like, wow. Like of course your body is now your. I don't know if you've read. And I have not read it, but Molly, read a body, keep score. And they say no matter whether you've processed something or not and you're not really consciously thinking like this is what's happening, your body does and kind of knows. And I think that once I kind of got still and it was in this beautiful relationship with my husband now it was so safe. Maybe.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

And just no drama. It's actually like just the easiest thing I've ever done. And I think it gave me this place to stand still and like feel all these feelings.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

And it was frigging rough. Like, you know, it always gives. I always say I give all these, the E's and all that. They, they love to talk about me having a breakdown, but I like, it was the. It's the roughest thing I've ever gone through. Yeah. 100%. And it was really, really hard to have like these, these people in my life that were gentle and not pushing me to just get over it or get better, which, you know, a lot of people do. It's like, what is your problem? You're like, you have this great life and I do.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

But I can tell you there was no less suffering for me than there really was. I'm sure anyone that has experienced anxiety at that level, it is horrible.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

Absolutely horrible. And it lasted a long time and I just now am really learning how to deal with it and I'm so much better. Like I was not functioning for that that year. I was just trying to survive. And now that I'm completely on the other side of that, I do still. Like this morning I was really anxious and about nothing really.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

And. But I'm learning to control it.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

Yeah. But it's for sharing that it's horrible. So anybody going through that. And I think for me we talked about this. I love what you're doing. With. It's called.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Oh, yeah, yeah. The Lemons Foundation.

[Tish Cyrus]

The Lemons Foundation. I like, love that so much. And I actually want to get involved more with people that are helping other people with mental health issues. Because the worst part of it is, it is you feel so alone.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

And you feel like you're the only person in the world dealing with it.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

And I think when I would hear other people talk about it and realize, like, you can overcome it, like, it really is hard to see when you're in it, but I think just hearing other people is so. It's probably the most helpful thing.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah. It's so true. And yeah, it's such a. I think we talked about how, like, overused the saying is, like, you're not alone, but actually, like, learning and knowing that and believing that really helps totally can help. And I relate so much to what you said about the stillness. And you don't realize, like, I feel like I was on a month of like, just go, go, go. Doing stuff which was so fun. Like carpets, going to New York, like, doing fun things that I'm enjoying and it's life giving and I'm, like, excited about. But then coming home and having stillness. I'm like, oh. Like, I. The other night I was sitting on the couch and I, like, put a red light LED mask on. And I'm sitting there and I look at Taylor and I'm like, I've. Well, I had. I've been sitting there and was totally fine. And then all of a sudden, like an intrusive thought popped in my head and it was like, I just got like warped with, like, anxiety. And it felt like my chest was so heavy. I felt like there was like a, like, I call it like a weighted anxiety blanket, like, thrown on me. And I'm laying there and I'm like feeling all this and I like, just feel like there's something really heavy on my chest and I, like, can't really move, but I, like, know the feeling, so it's not freaking me out. I know that that happens to me. And I look at Taylor with this freaking huge red light mask on and I'm like, do you ever just, like. Are you ever just sitting in silence and then all. And I mean, I meant this, like, so genuinely. Are you ever just sitting and then all of a sudden you just feel like this wave of anxiety come over.

[Podcast Host]

You and you feel like, really heavy.

[Brandi Cyrus]

And he's like, no. And I was like, great. I love that for you so much. He's like, I know he's Like, I get anxious and that's. He, like, gets anxious over things, but he doesn't get, like, the, like, what you had this morning. I'll just. I'll be getting ready to go to dinner with a girlfriend, or I'll be vacuuming or sitting on the couch with my red light mask, and all of a sudden it's like, the brain just goes, we're going to be anxious.

[Tish Cyrus]

Totally. Great.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Totally love that for me.

[Tish Cyrus]

And, like, it blows my mind because, like, my daughter Brandy, she's probably the only one of my kids that haven't experienced some sort of anxiety. Like, like, my kids here and there. Noah probably is the most like, me with it, but Brandy is like, I don't get it. Like, when. You know, she'd be like, I don't get it. Just stop. And I'm like, you don't under. Like, like, the fact that you have never experienced this blows my mind. Yeah. But I literally am just like, why can't I be one of those people that have never.

[Brandi Cyrus]

I know. I think we' special, though. I feel like we. It gives us, like, a level of empathy that we get to have with people and.

[Tish Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Not relatability in the sense of, like, oh, people can relate to me. But, like, I can understand, like, you've saying, like, you were anxious this morning. Like, I appreciate even though, like, I know what that feels like. And I'm so thankful that you still came and, you know, are sitting with me. Like, there's a level of relatability, appreciation.

[Tish Cyrus]

Oh, yeah. A year ago, I would have been texting Caddy. I don't think I can do this.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

And she's like, yes, you can. I'm like, I really don't think I can. Should you text? Like, you know, so that's why I have to now look at the progress I've made.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

My husband reminds me of that a lot because I'll still be like. But I feel. I still feel. And he was like, okay. Yeah, because you're normal. Like, we. We feel things. Like, that's okay. Yeah. And so I'm learning to manage it.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Brandi Cyrus]

What is your relationship with marijuana?

[Tish Cyrus]

Oh, I love marijuana. Love it. I wish. So what happened with me is I had smoked. I'd never smoked marijuana ever, until I was 42. Oh, wow. And Molly and I were on tour, and I was on my own bus, which caught on fire and burnt on the ground. And after that happened, I literally could not go to sleep on a tour bus. Like, I was just. Just terrified to try to Sleep. And somebody gave me Ambien, which made me feel hungover the next day. And Molly really was like, mom, you should try to smoke a little. It will help you sleep. And so that's kind of how it started. Like in my 40s. And I don't know if it was just. I've never drank. I've just never been a drinker. I don't drink wine. I just don't drink.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

Never done a drug in my life. And. But for whatever reason, it did just make me so much more relaxed and probably more fun. For sure. And just, it really worked for me. And it wasn't something that made me tired or lazy. It made me more creative. It. All the things. And I had smoked for about 10 years and then we went on vacation somewhere. I could not have the weed. And that was the time period that I was saying, like, I think I had over medicated and not felt all of the things that I needed to feel. Yeah. And then when I didn't have it, and I have no idea if it was the marijuana or if it was just the time that this was all gonna come to. Yeah. Ahead. But that is when I started having the worst anxiety was after I stopped smoking.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

So I don't know if you know, smoking and then not had something to do with it. I'm not really sure. And so for a year and a half, I didn't smoke. I. At all. And lately at night, right before I go to bed, I will smoke just the tiniest bit.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

But nothing like I used to.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

But what I will say is like, it worked for me for so long and I. I loved it. I. I do think because now I'm in therapy and my therapist says even though you didn't know it, you were self medicating.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

And that is probably why you haven't dealt with all this stuff. Yeah. So I would love to just go back and smoke and forget it all again. Because life was great.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

But I don't think that can happen now. Like it makes me. I think I'm too worried that I. It might make me anxious.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

You know?

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah. Or you might enjoy like the numb feeling again.

[Tish Cyrus]

Totally. And my husband, he now, he. Not that he didn't. I mean, he didn't care about it being marijuana, but he was like, you are so much more present all the time. He was like, when you were smoking, like, like you were not as present at all. And so he loves it. He's like, you know, he never wants me to go back because he you know, he was like, you were just probably a little numb.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah. That's great that you have that, like, support from him. And hearing your partner say that, too, I think is a lot more of a motivation for when things get hard to not fall back into that.

[Tish Cyrus]

Totally.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Habit again.

[Tish Cyrus]

Because, honestly, I didn't realize that I was like that.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

You know, and, like, that's one reason I would not go back to smoking like I did.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

Is like, I want to be present. Yeah. You know, I don't want someone to feel that way, especially him. So. And I'm glad because I. I was saying in my last relationship, there was no communication.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

And the fact that I feel like he was willing to say that and, you know, means that it, like, means a lot to him that I am present. So that's another reason that I just. I'll never go back to where I was.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah. Wait, I actually was gonna ask you, because I know there was a name change for your podcast.

[Tish Cyrus]

Yes.

[Brandi Cyrus]

What was. Was the reasoning behind that? Because of your marijuana journey.

[Tish Cyrus]

Totally. Oh, wow. So the podcast was called Sorry, We're Stoned, and it was with me and Brandy, and I would be stoned and Brandi wouldn't, and she kind of was the serious one. Driving conversation and all the thing. And I was just hot and having fun, which was actually awesome. I loved it. And then when I stopped smoking, Brandy was like, we can't. We gotta change the name.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

And so we changed it to Sorry, We're Cyrus. And I can't remember who came up with that. I can't remember. But. But I loved it. And it was not about being sorry about being a Cyrus. It's like we're unapologetically who we are, and I am not sorry for that. You know, And. And so we changed it, and I like it so much more, and I think it's opened us up for. Because a lot of guests didn't want to come on and represent that.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

And also brands didn't want to be. And so when we changed the name, it really did open it up for, you know, so many more people to come on and. And brands that wanted to sponsor and all the things. So it ended up being meant to be.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

And so, you guys, I have a podcast with my daughter Brandy, who's there and isn't. She's back and forth, but she's the.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Tailor of their relationship is what we were talking about before.

[Tish Cyrus]

Totally the Taylor. She's in and out, and it's called Sorry, We're Cyrus and I guess you can find it anywhere. You get podcasts.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

And we have Instagram and Tik Tok that. Sorry, we're Cyrus as well.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Great.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Great social content.

[Tish Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Brandi Cyrus]

And they had a great Thanksgiving guest.

[Tish Cyrus]

Yes, we did.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Me.

[Tish Cyrus]

Yes, we did.

[Brandi Cyrus]

What are your. Right now? Or maybe something that helped you through your grief of your mom and, you know, and your marriage. Like, you are still grieving, even if you weren't happy in it and it needed to end. Like, you're still grieving that whether it was a good thing or a bad thing. What helped you through that time period or what mental health tools are you loving right now?

[Tish Cyrus]

So for me, everybody talks about breathing, but that was really hard for me. Like, when I was in it just even be able to get a breath was a lot. Yeah. So, like, trying to, like, breathe for me just did not work. It made me kind of more anxious in a way for me. And I lost a lot of weight because not only was I nauseous, I just walked. Walking was literally what kept me sane. And like, anytime that I was just at the maximum, I would just go walk. And that really helped me a lot. Just listening to music and walking was my go to. And honestly, just. And I know not. Not everybody has a partner, especially a partner that kind of really understands what you're going through. That was huge. Because it's so crazy because we, you know, hadn't been met. We'd been married like a year or something when all this happened. And, like, I'm sure it wasn't easy on him, but, like, just having, like, I did not want to be alone. I'm still kind of like that. I think a lot of my anxiety has to do with abandonment issues. I was also adopted, so I'm sure there's a lot of stuff there. But, like, just having someone there that there was no judgment, just love was incredible.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah. I know that we talked about that, how our husbands are very similar in that sense. They're such great, like, support and sound boards and comfort. And that's something I really hope all of my girlfriends that haven't found their partner yet, like, finding. I was thinking about how, like, we're so, like, we love, like, the chase and we love like, a little bit of, like, toxic man. But there is something so special about finding a man who is just a lover boy and kisses the ground you walk on. Like, some.

[Podcast Host]

I hear.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Feel like you hear some girls, that it gives them the ick, but you. You want the opposite. Like, I've, like. So I tell my Girlfriends all the time. I'm like, no. Like, find someone that actually, like, respects you. I think is the biggest thing that I found with Taylor. Like, he respects me and values me and my opinion so much that I. That was foreign and not something that I think we talk about looking for in men. So it's. It's really special to walk through hard times with someone like that because it just makes you feel even more loved and have more love for that person.

[Tish Cyrus]

Totally. I did not know that either. I never knew that. It just wasn't.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

I don't want to say too much, but I just, like, I honestly still to this day, like, can't believe it.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

You know, and my husband, he, like, is this really, like, gnarly dude from Australia that's just such a man and all this stuff. But with me, like, he's the most gentle, loving, respectful human on the planet. Like, just the amount of respect there is. That's the. That's the key.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

Like, respect, like, in communication and love and just, like, having that is pretty unreal.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

You know, like, for me, personally is less. Whoa. Like, I never knew this is how it was supposed to be.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

But thank God I got to get to experience it now, you know, And I. I do think that's something. Like, I think looking back on, you know, life and with the part your partner and all the things, like, if there's one thing that you want out of a relationship, it's respect for each other. Because I think, like, you're not going to be screaming and yelling and calling your partner names and doing all the crazy stuff some couples do. If you respect each other.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

That's just not happening.

[Brandi Cyrus]

What advice would you give for our.

[Podcast Host]

Single Lemon Drop listeners that are searching for their partners?

[Tish Cyrus]

You know what I have. I have many single friends, and. And my daughter Brandy, who just found love, and she's 38, and, you know, I think even for her, she was like, this is never going to happen for me. Like, I'm never going to find someone. I'm 38, like, if it hasn't happened. And I think besides being single people that are in, like, super unhealthy relationships, you know, you're so afraid to leave because you don't want to be alone or start over. All the things. Yeah. My advice is definitely, like, if there isn't respect and the kind of love that we're talking about, don't stay, like, you know, there is someone out there. I think anybody can have a relationship, and there is somebody out there for all of us. And you will find it and just don't settle. Because I feel like. Like that. Because that never works out right, you know? And I love it. There's so many people that I talk to now that, like, aren't of my age, but of yours. And like, yeah, like, Brandy's friends and Molly's friends. So many are like, you know what? I don't even want to get married. Like, I. You know, I want to. I'll be with a partner, but I'm like my own woman, and I'm this. And, like, I admire those people so much too. And just like, to really be so okay with yourself and love yourself and. And know that you're okay with or without a partner is so awesome. And I, like, wish. Cause when I was young, I mean, the goal was get married, have a baby. I'm from eastern Kentucky, and that was the goal. And I love now that women. I was talking to a writer yesterday who had her first baby at 41 and her second baby at 46 and had froze her eggs because she wasn't in a relationship by then. And I was, okay. She is badass. You know? Like, that is so sick. So I think if you want love, you're gonna find it. Just make sure, like, it's everything you want.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

And if you don't want it, more power to you.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah. And not to put pressure on it too, because I think a lot of, like, my generation there. I mean, obviously, honestly, my generation upwards, like, all of our parents, they just got married young and they had kids, and that was what they did. So I have a lot of my friends that are like, my parents are married young, but also a lot of my friends parents are divorced, so, like, totally. Don't. Don't, like, oh, make sure you see. You see both. I mean, luckily my parents are high school sweethearts and they're still together, and I have a great. I got to watch that and still do. But a lot of my friends, like, will compare it to, like, well, my. My mom was 24 when she got married, 25 when she had a kid. I'm like, well, yeah, but she was in an unhealthy marriage and now they're divorced. So, like, it's like, you kind of gotta. What route do you want? And I think we're now finally. I think that's why people are getting married later, is it's that people are realizing that. No, like, I actually want to not just settle for something. Totally. To find something.

[Tish Cyrus]

The right thing.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

And honestly, it is so True. I mean, I, I, I honestly do think, like, later in life, like, you change so much, you know, because my parents, too, like, I've talked about this before. My parents met on a Monday, got married on Friday, and were together and in love until the day my dad passed away. I mean, it was the most beautiful love story. But I will say now, even, like, when I met Dom, of course I was older, and, you know, he was older. And I do think that it makes the relationship somewhat. I don't know, it's just so different because we both are who we are and who we're gonna be, and, you know, our kids are raised and. I don't know, it's just, like, so easy.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

And I think when you get married so young and you change, I mean, you do change so much.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

And, like, and sometimes people grow and other people don't or, you know, it's. It's just a hard balance to. And to be married to someone for 35, 40 years. I mean, it's a long time. Yeah. A really long time.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

And I think, you know, like, if you are in your 30s and older, like, the chances of you kind of making it all the way probably are a little greater, just because I just know from the time, like, I was 20, growing up in eastern Kentucky in my 20s is. I think I'm the same person inside, but I'm very different as who I am at 58, living in Los Angeles with. Yeah. You know what I mean? Just different.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Yeah.

[Tish Cyrus]

And I had to. I grew a lot.

[Brandi Cyrus]

For sure.

[Tish Cyrus]

A lot.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Last question I have for you is.

[Podcast Host]

What are you most proud of yourself for?

[Brandi Cyrus]

Whoa.

[Tish Cyrus]

Honestly, I think I'm most proud of myself. I actually feel like I was a really great mom, and. No, I do. It's. It's like my kids are my life. I love my kids so much. And I think for me, the easier thing a lot of times would be to leave my kids with other people and, and, you know, but I think I was a really present and really good mom. Yeah, I do. And I'm probably most proud of that. And I'm also proud of getting through my last year. But the most proud of anything I am is just raising the most incredible children. And I'm so proud of all of them because they're all, like. They're all just really grounded and awesome and, like, thriving in life and happy and that's all I could ask for. So I love that. Yeah.

[Brandi Cyrus]

Well, thanks for coming and chatting.

[Tish Cyrus]

This was awesome.

[Brandi Cyrus]

I never want it to end.

[Tish Cyrus]

I know.

[Brandi Cyrus]

I'm gonna be, like, texting you all the time.

[Tish Cyrus]

I love it.

[Podcast Host]

Foreign.

[Tish Cyrus]

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[Tish Cyrus]

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