The Stacking Benjamins Show – Episode SB1632: "Our Magic 8 Ball Predicts Our Financial Future"
Release Date: January 17, 2025
Introduction
In this lively episode of The Stacking Benjamins Show, hosts Joe Saul-Sehy and OG explore the intriguing concept of using a Magic 8 Ball to forecast financial and personal events for the upcoming year. Joined by special guest Mindy Jensen from the BiggerPockets Money podcast and financial planner OG, the trio reviews the accuracy of last year's predictions and casts their eyes toward what 2025 may hold.
1. Recap of Last Year's Predictions
Timestamp: 10:10 – 17:24
The episode kicks off with a retrospective look at the Magic 8 Ball’s predictions from the previous year:
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Royal Family Reunion:
- Paula Pant's Query: Will Harry and Meghan reconnect with the Royal Family or will the split worsen?
- Outcome: Meghan Markle briefly returned to the UK but did not rekindle ties with the Royal Family.
- Quote:
Joe Saul-Sehy [11:05]:
“Meghan Markle ended her 20-month absence from the UK. She was there for less than two days and didn’t connect with anybody from the Royal Family. So the answer is no, that did not happen.”
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Gold Price Surge:
- Len Penzo's Prediction: Will gold reach $2,500 by December 1st, 2024?
- Outcome: Gold surpassed expectations, trading at $2,665, marking a 30% return.
- Quote:
Joe Saul-Sehy [13:54]:
“We are sitting at 2665 to your point. Today, as we record this over the past 12 months, it's been a 30% return.”
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Nvidia Stock Performance:
- Len Penzo's Prediction: Will Nvidia’s stock double by December 1st, 2024?
- Outcome: Nvidia’s stock nearly tripled, aligning with the Magic 8 Ball's positive forecast.
- Quote:
OG [48:52]:
“This could be impressive if it finishes strong here.”
2. Financial Insights and Strategic Discussions
Timestamp: 17:24 – 40:58
The hosts delve into various financial topics, intertwining their Magic 8 Ball game with valuable insights:
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Investing Amid Presidential Cycles:
- OG emphasizes the importance of staying invested regardless of which party holds the presidency.
- Quote:
OG [18:48]:
“The only solution is to stay invested all the time.”
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Debt Management Strategies:
- Discussion on refinancing debt to lower interest rates and maintaining consistent payments.
- Quote:
OG [35:47]:
“If you have consumer debt and you notice that your minimum payment went down, you should pay them the same flat payment all the time.”
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Real Estate Investment Tactics:
- Mindy Jensen shares how fluctuating interest rates influence her real estate decisions, advocating for investing in high-interest periods to avoid market saturation when rates drop.
- Quote:
Mindy Jensen [37:21]:
“If interest rates come down in August, that’s when you’ll see people pouring back into the market.”
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Gold vs. Bitcoin:
- Len clarifies that gold serves as wealth insurance, highlighting its stability compared to the volatility of Bitcoin.
- Quote:
Len Penzo [15:31]:
“Gold is wealth insurance. So I don't think anybody should be out there putting 30, 40, 50% of their investable assets into gold.”
3. Listener Questions and Magic 8 Ball Predictions
Timestamp: 27:49 – 85:54
Listeners submitted intriguing questions, which the hosts posed to their Magic 8 Ball to predict 2025 outcomes:
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Macy’s Bankruptcy:
- Question: Will Macy’s declare bankruptcy in 2025?
- Prediction: Yes.
- Outcome: As of the recording, Macy’s remains operational, making this prediction inaccurate.
- Quote:
Magic 8 Ball [61:27]:
“Yes.”
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30-Year Mortgage Rates:
- Question: Will 30-year mortgage rates drop below 6.25% by December 1st, 2025?
- Prediction: No.
- Outcome: Rates remained above the threshold, aligning with the Magic 8 Ball's negative outlook.
- Quote:
Magic 8 Ball [64:25]:
“Highly doubtful.”
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Detroit Lions Super Bowl Win:
- Question: Will the Detroit Lions win the Super Bowl in 2025?
- Prediction: Yes.
- Outcome: The Detroit Lions have not secured a Super Bowl victory, making this another incorrect prediction.
- Quote:
Magic 8 Ball [87:05]:
“Yes.”
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Bitcoin vs. Gold Performance:
- Question: Will Bitcoin outperform gold by December 1st, 2025?
- Prediction: No.
- Outcome: Bitcoin surged past the $100,000 mark, outpacing gold.
- Quote:
Magic 8 Ball [78:24]:
“Everything points to yes.”
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Kardashians' TV Show Cancellation:
- Question: Will "Keeping Up with the Kardashians" be canceled by December 1st, 2025?
- Prediction: Yes.
- Outcome: The show continued airing beyond the predicted date.
- Quote:
Magic 8 Ball [60:31]:
“Yes.”
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Berkshire Hathaway A Shares:
- Question: Will Berkshire Hathaway A shares hit $950,000 by December 1st, 2025?
- Prediction: Yes.
- Outcome: Shares did not reach the projected figure, rendering the prediction inaccurate.
- Quote:
Magic 8 Ball [82:04]:
“Yes, it is. Certain.”
4. Key Takeaways and Lessons Learned
Timestamp: Throughout the Episode
Despite the playful use of a Magic 8 Ball, several meaningful financial lessons emerged:
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Consistency Over Timing:
- Maintaining consistent investment habits often outperforms attempting to time the market based on external factors like political shifts.
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Diversification is Crucial:
- Investing across various assets (stocks, precious metals, real estate) can mitigate risks associated with market volatility.
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Debt Management Tactics:
- Even if minimum payments decrease due to lower interest rates, maintaining or increasing payments can expedite debt elimination.
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Skepticism Towards Predictions:
- While entertaining, relying solely on tools like the Magic 8 Ball for financial decisions is unreliable; informed and strategic planning is essential.
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6. Closing Remarks
Timestamp: 87:40 – End
The hosts conclude the episode by reflecting on the mixed accuracy of their Magic 8 Ball predictions. They emphasize the importance of informed financial planning over whimsical forecasting tools. Special guest Mindy Jensen shares updates on her podcast and upcoming events, while Len Penzo teases future interviews and content on his platforms. The episode wraps up with a humorous exchange about future predictions and a reminder to listeners to approach financial decisions with diligence and skepticism.
Notable Quotes
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Joe Saul-Sehy [11:05]:
“Meghan Markle ended her 20-month absence from the UK. She was there for less than two days and didn’t connect with anybody from the Royal Family. So the answer is no, that did not happen.” -
Len Penzo [15:31]:
“Gold is wealth insurance. So I don't think anybody should be out there putting 30, 40, 50% of their investable assets into gold.” -
OG [35:47]:
“If you have consumer debt and you notice that your minimum payment went down, you should pay them the same flat payment all the time.” -
Mindy Jensen [37:21]:
“If interest rates come down in August, that’s when you’ll see people pouring back into the market.” -
Magic 8 Ball [61:27]:
“Yes.” (Regarding Macy’s bankruptcy) -
Magic 8 Ball [64:25]:
“Highly doubtful.” (Regarding mortgage rates dropping below 6.25%) -
Magic 8 Ball [87:05]:
“Yes.” (Regarding Detroit Lions winning the Super Bowl)
Conclusion
This episode of The Stacking Benjamins Show masterfully blends humor, financial insights, and interactive fun through the Magic 8 Ball predictions. While some predictions fell short, the overarching message underscores the significance of strategic financial planning, diversification, and consistent investment practices. Listeners are encouraged to remain informed and proactive in their financial endeavors, leveraging expert advice over whimsical forecasting tools.
Resources Mentioned:
- BiggerPockets Money Podcast: stackingbenjamins.com
- Len Penzo's Blog: lenpenzo.com
- Magic 8 Ball Predictions: Highlights throughout the episode.
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