Interview Only: Cris Carter recaps Eagles vs Chiefs beat down and Hall of Fame inductees.

Summary

The Stephen A. Smith Show: Episode Summary

Title: Interview Only: Cris Carter recaps Eagles vs Chiefs beat down and Hall of Fame inductees
Host: Stephen A. Smith
Guest: Kris Carter
Release Date: February 11, 2025

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1. Introduction

In this episode of The Stephen A. Smith Show, host Stephen A. Smith sits down with Hall of Fame wide receiver Kris Carter to discuss the recent Super Bowl 59, where the Philadelphia Eagles decisively defeated the Kansas City Chiefs, and to reflect on the 2025 Hall of Fame inductees.

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2. Super Bowl 59 Recap

Dominance of the Philadelphia Eagles

Stephen A. Smith opens the discussion by highlighting the lopsided score of Super Bowl 59, emphasizing the Chiefs' defeat with a score of 40-22. He remarks, "40 to 22 does not indicate how dominant this damn game was" (00:24).

Kris Carter's Analysis

Kris Carter commends Philadelphia's strategic execution, stating, "Philadelphia was able to rush four people the minimum amount of rush people and put the maximum amount of pressure by doing that" (01:38). He points out the exploitation of the Chiefs' offensive line weaknesses, noting, "Their left tackle is not a left tackle and their right tackle is not a good right tackle" (02:12).

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3. Philadelphia Eagles' Strategy and Performance

Defensive Prowess

Carter praises the Eagles' defense, explaining, "They can smash it at the with Barkley. Everybody bought into it" (08:53). He highlights the Eagles' ability to dominate both in rushing and passing, which led to their overwhelming victory.

Game Plan Execution

Stephen A. Smith discusses the premeditated nature of the Eagles' game plan, questioning if they were simply exploiting an observed advantage or if the plan was set from the outset. Carter responds by emphasizing the team's confidence and preparation, illustrating how "they had two weeks to prepare" for the game plan, leading to an effective execution against the Chiefs (02:39).

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4. Patrick Mahomes and Kansas City Chiefs' Weaknesses

Mahomes' Performance

Stephen A. Smith critiques Patrick Mahomes' performance, citing specific statistics: "24 to nothing, 0 first downs, 1 total or 1 first down, 23 total net yards, 0 for 6 on third down" (04:15). Carter acknowledges Mahomes played an average game, attributing the interceptions and pick-sixes to Philadelphia's dominant defense: "Patrick Mahomes, he played an average game... because they didn't have an answer to this defense" (05:11).

Chiefs' Offensive Line Issues

Carter further explains the issues with the Chiefs' offensive line, stating, "Their left tackle is, is a very good all pro guard and he can't play left tackle... their right tackle is going to jump offside an awful lot and he's only going to be an average player" (07:29).

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5. The "GOAT" Conversation: Tom Brady vs. Patrick Mahomes

Stephen A. Smith brings up the ongoing debate about the greatest of all time (GOAT) quarterbacks, comparing Tom Brady's consistent Super Bowl performances to Mahomes' recent struggles. He states, "Is the goat conversation over? For now anyway" (06:02).

Carter advises caution in this debate, suggesting that "people try to get ahead of what history really is" and asserts that Tom Brady, backed by Bill Belichick, remains unparalleled: "I doubt that he's going to pass Tom Brady as the greatest quarterback that we've seen play in The National Football League" (07:05).

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6. Andy Reid’s Coaching and Future of the Chiefs

Reevaluating the Chiefs' Strategy

Stephen A. Smith questions Andy Reid's coaching decisions, particularly the lack of running plays in Super Bowl 59. Carter responds optimistically about Reid's future moves: "I think Andy Reid's going to go back and look at it just like he did in Tampa Bay... They will retool" (07:29). He anticipates improvements in the Chiefs' roster and offensive strategies, foreseeing Mahomes leading another Super Bowl run.

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7. Defensive Coordinator Spagnola's Challenges

Spagnola's Performance Against the Eagles

Stephen A. Smith criticizes Defensive Coordinator Spagnola for allowing 35 points in Super Bowl 57 and 40 points in the recent game. Carter defends him by pointing out the mismatch in personnel: "Philadelphia has Devontae Smith, AJ Man, Saquon, Kurt man, they provide mismatches that he doesn't necessarily have answers to" (08:53). He acknowledges Spagnola's efforts but underscores the Eagles' superior talent and strategy.

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8. Jalen Hurts and the Evolution of Quarterbacks

Hurts' Postseason Performance

Stephen A. Smith lauds Jalen Hurts' postseason achievements, highlighting his impressive statistics: "Jalen Hurts... 69.5% of his passes, 102.5 passer rating, 19 touchdowns, just two interceptions" (10:46). He argues that the Eagles' emphasis on rushing has shaped perceptions of Hurts.

Carter's Perspective on Hurts

Carter appreciates Hurts' growth but maintains that he should be recognized among the top quarterbacks, albeit not necessarily in the top five: "he should be in the top 10. And just because he's not in the top five, that is not a slap in the face" (13:53).

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9. 2025 Hall of Fame Inductees

Inductees Overview

The episode transitions to discussing the 2025 Hall of Fame class, which includes Antonio Gates, Eric Allen, Sterling Sharpe, and Jared Allen. Carter notes the selectivity of the induction process, stating, "the hall of Fame is still trying to be selective and you need to get 80 of the vote. So guess what happened this year, Stephen a. We have four people that got 80% of the vote" (14:50).

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10. Tribute to Sterling Sharpe

Sharpe's Legacy and Contributions

Carter passionately defends Sterling Sharpe's induction, describing him as "a beast" and highlighting his resilience overcoming a severe neck injury: "he grew up in an awful situation... This dude was a beast. This dude was one of my role models" (15:48).

Personal Anecdotes

He shares a personal story where Sterling Sharpe's injury led to his own first Pro Bowl invitation, illustrating Sharpe's character and impact: "Sterling Sharp, Michael Irvin, Jerry Rice and Andre Risen, those were the receivers in the NFC and it was him. And Jerry Rice is the. Who's the best? All right. So I can't make people forget that conversation. That dude was worthy of it" (16:58).

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11. Travis Kelce’s Hall of Fame Prospects

Kelce's Future in the NFL

Stephen A. Smith inquires if Travis Kelce is ready for the Hall of Fame or if he will continue to play following the recent Super Bowl loss. Carter confidently predicts Kelce's return, asserting, "I look for him to use this as fuel... I see him playing another two seasons" (19:11). He acknowledges the challenges older players face but remains optimistic about Kelce's ongoing performance and contributions.

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12. Conclusion

The episode wraps up with mutual appreciation between Stephen A. Smith and Kris Carter, highlighting Carter's valuable insights throughout the football season. Both express gratitude and end on a positive note, reinforcing the depth of analysis provided during the discussion.

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Notable Quotes

• Stephen A. Smith: "40 to 22 does not indicate how dominant this damn game was." (00:24)
• Kris Carter: "Philadelphia was able to rush four people the minimum amount of rush people and put the maximum amount of pressure by doing that." (01:38)
• Stephen A. Smith: "Is the goat conversation over? For now anyway." (06:02)
• Kris Carter: "I doubt that he's going to pass Tom Brady as the greatest quarterback that we've seen play in The National Football League." (07:05)
• Kris Carter: "he should be in the top 10. And just because he's not in the top five, that is not a slap in the face." (13:53)
• Kris Carter: "Sterling Sharp... that dude was worthy of it." (16:58)
• Kris Carter: "I see him playing another two seasons when he starts trying to go home." (20:29)

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Conclusion

This episode of The Stephen A. Smith Show provides an in-depth analysis of Super Bowl 59, emphasizing the strategic dominance of the Philadelphia Eagles, critiques of the Kansas City Chiefs, and discussions on notable NFL figures entering the Hall of Fame. Kris Carter offers valuable insights into team dynamics, player performances, and the evolving landscape of professional football, making this episode both informative and engaging for listeners.

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Note: Timestamps correspond to the guest's and host's notable comments within the transcript.

Transcript

[Greg Rosenthal]

What's up, everyone? It's Greg Rosenthal, and I'm teaming up with the king of spring, Daniel Jeremiah. He requires me to say that we're going to be bringing you 40s and free agents, the only podcast you'll need this NFL draft season. From DJs mock drafts to my top 101, free agents will have it covered for you with all new episodes every Thursday, keeping you up to date as we head to the NFL Draft. Listen to 40s and free agents starting on March 6th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Julie Swerbinks]

What's up, everyone? Julie Swerbinks here along with former NHL player Nate Thompson.

[Nate Thompson]

We're doing a new podcast together. Here we go.

[Julie Swerbinks]

The name Energy Line with Nate and jsb.

[Nate Thompson]

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[Julie Swerbinks]

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[Nate Thompson]

Julia's pretty well connected. She has text threads going that you wouldn't believe.

[Julie Swerbinks]

Listen to Energy Line with Nate and jsb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Joining me now to break down Super Bowl 59 as hall of Fame, hall of Fame wide receiver, the one and only Kris Carter. All he did was catch touchdowns. What's up, big time? How are you doing, man? How's everything?

[Kris Carter]

Thank you for invitation Day. After the super bowl, it wasn't the type of game that we would like, but you got to give it up to Philadelphia.

[Stephen A. Smith]

That's where I was going. It was an ass kicking. It was an ass kicking, Chris. 40 to 22 does not indicate how dominant this damn game was. Make no mistake about it. What stood out most to you about this game?

[Kris Carter]

I was totally shocked that they were able to rush four people the minimum amount of rush people and put the maximum amount of pressure by doing that. And I know that Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes have been doing this the last five years with Hocus Pocus, but they really got exploited as far as their weakness on that offensive line. Their left tackle is not a left tackle and their right tackle is not a good right tackle. So Philadelphia was able to do that and play all their zone coverages and keep all eyes on Patrick Mahomes. It was a great game plan, but they had the personnel to be able to execute that game plan.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Chris, there's one thing for me, if I see a game and it's like something's developing and you recognize that you might have an advantage so you exploit it. It's another thing entirely when the Philadelphia Eagles appear to walk into the game knowing exactly what they were going to be able to do, seemingly having little to no concern whatsoever about their defensive line being neutralized in any way by the Kansas City Chiefs offensive line. Is that what you saw?

[Kris Carter]

Well, I think that they had a lot of confidence coming into the games. Anytime that you see a dominant defense, if we've seen top defense in the NFL be in this game 13 times now, and 11 times that top defense has won the championship, only losing twice. So when you have two weeks to prepare, you can find out the weakness of the opposition like no other week during the season. So there was a time in two bowls we saw a lot of blowouts. Now, not of late, we've had a lot of close matchups, but this was a blowout from the beginning in it because one unit, and that was the defensive front. Yeah, they had a great game plan. They didn't have to put their safeties and their linebackers in man to man. And you didn't. And you have to blitz Patrick Mahomes because that's what Fangio has figured out in the last eight times that he fakes Patrick Mahomes. Guess what? I haven't beaten him. Guess what I did. I blitzed an awful lot. He's great against the blitz. So he was able to have that game plan, have the personnel be able to play a style that he wanted to. And he got the support of the offense, putting points on the board, which led to Kansas City's panel.

[Stephen A. Smith]

You know, I'm looking at some of these numbers, cece, and I got to tell you something. When the Eagles were up 24 to nothing in the first half, which was a shock in and of itself, I knew Patrick Mahomes had already thrown a pick six. I knew he had thrown another interception at his own 14 yard line. But I'm looking at some of these numbers. 24 to nothing, 0 first downs, 1 total or 1 first down, I'm sorry, 23 total net yards, 0 for 6 on third down. What about Patrick Mahomes here?

[Kris Carter]

Well, we have seen the greatest players in this game, and that's why football is the ultimate team game. We give credit credit to the quarterback all the time. And then we also give blame to the quarterback. But he can't do his job if he can't get to the top of his drop. When you have a four man rush and he has five people protecting them. And the numbers advantage is on the offensive side. But Philadelphia they flip that. So yes, Patrick Mahomes, he played an average game. All he had was 250, you know, three touchdown passes. But the pick sixes and trying to force the ball was because he saw that not only do we not have an answer to this defense, but you know, offensively Philadelphia is also putting points on the board. So that sped up Patrick Mahomes clock. Even though in the previous two bowls that he won he had been down by 10 points. This was a different beast that he was facing. In yesterday's Super Bowl, I saw the.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Kansas City Chiefs get blown out by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I've now seen them get blown out by the Philadelphia Eagles. In Super Bowls they've been outscored by 40 points. In three Super bowl losses, Tom Brady has been outscored by just 15 points. Somehow, some way, no matter what the Giants pass rush look like, not once, but twice, no matter what the Philadelphia Eagles, you know, you know, their defense looked like, no matter what the Legion of Boom looked like when he ended up beating Seattle because Pete Carroll and Darrell Bevel decided to for Russell Wilson to try to throw a pass at the half yard line instead of giving it up to beast mode. We've never seen Tom Brady look so lost, so discombobulated, so destroyed in a game the way that we saw Patrick Mahomes. Is the goat conversation over? For now anyway.

[Kris Carter]

Well, I wouldn't hold my breath about it. You know, people try to get ahead of what history really is. People try to prognosticate compared to watching it and seeing where it goes. I mean, Tom Brady was never put in this situation. Also because Tom Brady had Bill Belichick. Bill Belichick would have never had a game plan like that against an offensive line like that, you know, so that, that's part of the, the equation there. When you talk about Tom Brady, you have to put Bill Belichick, I thought him at the super bowl, excited to see what he's going to do for the North Carolina heroes. But the preparation that to me that line was not prepared mentally nor physically for what the Philadelphia Eagles are going to do, which we didn't see in Tom Brady. So now when you start to separate, now he's three and two in Super Bowls, Tom Brady seven and two, seven and three in Super Bowls. It's a hard time to get back up that mountain, but there's a lot of football left to be played. But I doubt, I doubt that he's going to pass Tom Brady as the greatest quarterback that we've seen play in The National Football League.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I was just talking about the goat conversation for the time being. But you know, you brought up Bill Belichick. This is. Andy Reid is no slouch. Andy Reid is one of the great, great coaches in NFL history. So what, so what are we to think about Andy Reid and how ill prepared the Kansas City Chiefs looked to go up against the Philadelphia Eagles? Especially since he made virtually no attempt to run the football at all yesterday.

[Kris Carter]

Right. I think Andy Reid's going to go back and look at it just like he did in Tampa Bay. They do a good job as far as personnel and given some of the economics then as far as some of the players. They had to get rid of Tyre Hill to be able to afford Patrick Mahomes new contract. They'll retool. They realize that their left tackle is, is a very good all pro guard and he can't play left tackle. They realize the right tackle is going to jump offside an awful lot and he's only going to be an average player. So they will retool. Their defense was very, very good, outstanding. Didn't have a good day yesterday. So that's what they'll do from a personnel department. They're going to put good players around Patrick Mahomes. His receiving core will be absolutely better next year than the one he had this year just because of injury, subtraction, adding subtraction and he hasn't been loaded at the wide receiver spot for the last couple of years. So there's ways that they can improve the roster. Don't panic, retool. And they will. Patrick Mahomes will play another Super Bowl.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Spagnola, the defensive coordinator, the legendary defensive coordinator in the eyes of many who should be a, a Hall of Famer in, in his own right not once but twice he's been lit up by Philadelphia Eagles. Now he gave up 35 points in Super Bowl 57. The Eagles dropped 40 yesterday even though a pick six and another interception basically set up another cut touchdown, you know, by interceptions by Patrick Mahomes. What are we to make of Spagnolo?

[Kris Carter]

Well, if you look at the personnel, this defense does not match up well against Philadelphia because especially this year's version of where they can smash it at the with Barkley. Everybody thought, oh, make him throw the football. That's not what you want to do because when you do make them throw the football, typically you're in man to man because you got to put all those guys up at the line of scrimmage because of the box. And Jalen hurts Ability to be able to be accurate with the football at an all time high. He only keeps getting better. He got benched in the national championship game for Tua Tua come back and throw and throws one. He has to transfer, goes to Oklahoma, starting to learn the passing game. Doesn't get drafted in the first round. He still learned the passing game. He never gets enough credit. All he does is win. All he does is get better. And the personnel around offensive line, six six, six Stephen A330. They're monsters in, in the NFL. They are monsters. I mean they look behemoth compared to Kansas City's defensive front and that's what they're getting. And let's not forget I'm going to say this. Philadelphia has been the best team in the NFL in the last year and a half. Last year they started the season 10 and 1. Now their head coach is growing. They had some in inside stuff going on in the team, but they were 10 and 1 and then now we know they fell apart. And then this year they win the Super Bowl. So they've been doing a lot of winning there in Philadelphia, ironing stuff out. And I do believe their head coach is only going to mature even more. And the players play hard for him. It's a special combination. So I can understand Spag Goat. Yes, he does a great job. But the personnel, Philadelphia, Devontae Smith, AJ Man, Saquon, Kurt man, they provide mismatches that he doesn't necessarily have answers to. And that's why they've been so productive in those two meetings.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Let me throw something out at you about Jalen Hurts because I don't listen, the man deserves major, major props, no doubt to him. Congratulations, the whole nine. But when I think about Jalen Hurts and what he's done in the postseason over the last three postseasons, people don't realize this about him. His record is 6, 2. He's been to two Super Bowls. He's now won a Super bowl championship. He's completed 69.5% of his passes, 102.5 passer rating, 19 touchdowns, just two interceptions, nine pass 10 runs and just two turnovers. So those are great numbers on the part of Jalen Hurts. What I would push back on you though, Chris, is this. People act like folks were just hating on them. And I'm of the mindset. Wait a minute. We needed to see. We suspected you could do it, but we needed to see it. And there's no crime there because since Week 5, the Eagles have rushed the football more than anybody else in the National Football League, and they've thrown the football, you know, less than anybody in the entire National Football League. So whatever question marks we may have had about Jalen Hurts was created by the Eagles more so than anybody else. To that you say what?

[Kris Carter]

Well, most teams run the football because they either have a dominant offensive line, they have a great running back or philosophy, or the fourth thing is their quarterback doesn't have the arm talent to be able to lead the team and throwing the ball 40 times. The Eagles, they don't have that in Jalen Hurts, but their other answers to winning are better than him dropping back 40 times because of their offensive line. Say, for the last eight or ten years they've been dominant and now they have won the best running back that they've ever had in their history. So now how am I going to choose the win games after the bye week? They said, Jeff Stouton, offensive line coach, great guy, underrated in their system, we're going to run the football. Everyone bought into it. So when they're running the football, they get a lot of man to man on the outside. So there's a lot of ways to win games. Jalen Hurts, his development has been very, very different than a lot of other quarterbacks that we've seen. So a lot of times to me, I'm like, I need to see a little more too. So I can understand that. Yes, you need to be able to see more. But sometimes people are not just running the ball because lack of arm count. It's because of the overall way to be able to win a football game, utilize the talent that we have. As far as man, we're bigger than them, we're more physical than them. And there's a mentality from the team that goes through the fan base and the mentality of Philadelphia. So I think those different windows and his and his passing is still developing. It gave people that opportunity to say, you know something, he's not as good as Lamar, he's not as good as Patrick, he's not as good as Josh and some of these other players.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Well, is he now?

[Kris Carter]

Yeah. You got to give it to him.

[Stephen A. Smith]

All right, Give it to him. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm asking you a specific question. Give it to him. How do you have him as a top five quarterback in the National Football League right now?

[Kris Carter]

Right now, if I got a draft and if Jalen Hurts is not drafted right after that, it's just because we are in the elite time in quarterbacks. Okay, Now I'm gonna tell you something. Do you think if Joe Burrow wasn't in Philadelphia, they wouldn't have won some Super Bowls? If Josh Allen wasn't in Philadelphia, they wouldn't have won a Super Bowl. Mar was in Philadelphia. So I'm not going to say top five, but he should be in the top 10. And just because he's not in the top five, that is not a slap in the face, man. We are in the golden age of dudes that can throw that football.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Got it.

[Kris Carter]

And he happens to be one of them.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Let me move on to a fraternity that you are a member of, the hall of Fame. Their class of 2025 was revealed. It obviously includes Antonio Gates, Eric Allen, the one and only Sterling Sharpe, who I was just with the other night, and former Viking Jared Allen. Your thoughts on a class that includes only four inductees this year?

[Kris Carter]

People think it's just a no brainer. Every year, six, seven, eight guys are going to go in. That's not the truth. The hall of Fame is still trying to be selective and you need to get 80 of the vote. So guess what happened this year, Stephen a. We have four people that got 80% of the vote. Now what? I would like to see another receiver get in. Given the receivers that are on the and have been waiting. That being Tori Hope, that being Reggie Wayne, that being Stephen A. Smith senior. All these guys are going to be hall of Famers. But I had to tell some of them too. Even after this, hey, if you would have gotten in, Sterling Sharp wouldn't have gotten in. But let me tell you something which you might not know. And I had to go back to. Maybe your daddy was thinking about courting your mom. This dude was a beast. This dude was one of my role models.

[Stephen A. Smith]

You talk about Sterling Shot. You talk about Sterling Sharp? Yeah. Oh, he was. He was a monster. People don't realize of a monster. He was.

[Kris Carter]

Hall of Fame was a crime. And that's right. The reason why he hadn't reached the accolades for which he should have received was the guy broke his neck, Right? So for me, man, this is one of the greatest stories ever. Not only his story to get to the hall, but by the way, man, he grew up in an awful situation with another kid who's in the hall. The first time it ever happened.

[Stephen A. Smith]

That's right.

[Kris Carter]

Now, Stephen A. I'm gonna give you some numbers. 350 million people have played football in some form or fashion. 28,000 of us played the National Football League. Only 14,000 of us played more than four years. Only 382 of us in the hall of Fame and now Sterling, number 382. It's an unbelievable story, man. It is unbelievable. I'm moved deep in my soul, man. Have them guys in the hall because of their ability to be able to overcome adversity and make themselves better through football.

[Stephen A. Smith]

He deserves.

[Kris Carter]

Last thing I'm say about Sterling.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Go ahead.

[Kris Carter]

He gave me my first opportunity to go to the Pro bowl when he hurt his neck. We were at the super bowl in Atlanta. We were in the hospitality suite. He found out that I was the alternate. It was my first thousand yard season. And he was like, you know, bro, man, congratulations. I was like, yeah, you just. He had just finished his third straight 100 cat season and he's congratulating me on a thousand yard season. And I said, yeah, man, I'm altered. He got on the house phone and called Green Bay and came up with an injury. Called the training room, said my hamstrings hurt. The NFL called me 20 minutes later in the hospitality suite and I was able to go to my first Pro bowl of eight, Provost. But at that time, Sterling Sharp, Michael Irvin, Jerry Rice and Andre Risen, those were the receivers in the NFC and it was him. And Jerry Rice is the. Who's the best? All right. So I can't make people forget that conversation. That dude was worthy of it. The other cast, they will get their recognition. A great class, small class, you know, ea, you know, from Philadelphia, came into the league after my second year in the league. Him and I had a lot of battles, man, in practice and then throughout the league. Jared Allen, how special he was at, you know, to rush the passer like all these guys have. Just unusually, very, very, you know, special, special stories that will be told in Canton this summer. I'm looking forward to it.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I totally agree with you. And it was great seeing him. I was there that night when he got the announcement. Obviously his brother, you know, Shannon is my dog. And you know, and just, it was, it was real emotional for them. But I've known Sterling for many, many years, man, and he's a great, great guy. And people don't realize what a great receiver he was. When he was healthy, it was Jerry Rice and it was him. People forget that this is before Randy Moss, so everybody forgets that. Last question for you. Sticking with the hall of Fame, Travis Kelce will be in the hall of Fame without question when he retires. Is it time for him? Do you believe it's time for him or do you think that after such a catastrophic loss yesterday he's going to come back.

[Kris Carter]

No, I think he's going to come back. You know, I. I know him very well. He works out here in South Florida. He came down here, I'm getting ready for the combine, and he's been coming back every year with the trainer who worked out in the gym I'm very familiar with. So I look for him to use this as fuel. That's what the great players do. He has no need to look at any part of this season besides this game because there was no hint, there was no breath, there was not even a stench that he had lost his edge. Even given the high profile relationship that he's in, people might question that he's handled that strategically. Amazing and still playing at a high level. No, I look for him to come back. But the thing about it is, as you get older, people exploit your weaknesses. One thing that Philadelphia last night, they was not worried about him being a blocker right now, him not being a dominant blocker in the line of scrimmage, that's been a tremendous advantage. But as you get older, they start. They start. They start honing in on your fastball. They start making you do things that you're not as comfortable doing. So that's something you have to be able to manage. So I think they'll keep growing that offense. They'll do some things to go protect them. But I see him playing another two.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Seasons, two seasons, not one, two.

[Kris Carter]

I see him playing another two seasons when he starts trying to go home. And he ain't special. Like, ain't nothing special. He do like football. I know he's doing his podcast and all that, but, hey, there's a lot of pressure right there with the woman these days. I don't think she gonna quit no time soon, so I keep going to work.

[Stephen A. Smith]

David, Cece, I holler back at you, my brother. Appreciate all your contributions to the show during the football season, man. Had to cap it out with you, man. Thanks so much, bro. You take it easy, all right?

[Kris Carter]

No, thank you, bro. All love, bro.

[Stephen A. Smith]

All love always.

[Greg Rosenthal]

What's up, everyone? It's Greg Rosenthal and I'm teaming up with the king of spring, Daniel Jeremiah. He requires me to say that we're going to be bringing you 40s and free agents, the only podcast you'll need this NFL draft season. From DJs mock drafts to my top 101, free agents will have it covered for you with all new episodes every Thursday. Keeping you up to date as we head to the NFL Draft. Listen to 40s and free agents starting on March 6th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

[Julie Swerbinks]

What's up everyone? Julius Rippinks here, along with former NHL player Nate Thompson.

[Nate Thompson]

We're doing a new podcast together. Here we go.

[Julie Swerbinks]

The name Energy Line with Nate and jsb.

[Nate Thompson]

Each week we'll get together and talk about hockey life. All topics are fair game, right?

[Julie Swerbinks]

Exactly. And you'll never know who will drop by to join us.

[Nate Thompson]

Julie is pretty well connected. She has text threads going that you wouldn't believe.

[Julie Swerbinks]

Listen to Energy Line with Nate and jsb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.