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Greg Rosenthal
What's up, everyone? It's Greg Rosenthal and I'm teaming up with the king of spring, Daniel Jeremiah. He requires me to say that we're going to be bringing you 40s and free agents, the only podcast you'll need this NFL draft season. From DJs mock drafts to my top 101, free agents will have it covered for you with all new episodes every Thursday keeping you up to date as we head to the NFL Draft. Listen to 40s and free agents starting on March 6th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Travis Kelce
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Stephen A. Smith
Oh, my goodness. I couldn't wait to have my next guest, my brother from another mother. It's been a while, baby. It's been a while. But I mean, we're talking about a future hall of Famer at the tight end spot. One of the greatest to have ever played the game. The one and only Travis Kelce of the reigning two time defending super bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs. What's up, big time? How you doing, man?
Travis Kelce
Man, it's so good to be on here with you. It's been too long, man. It's been too long. I miss you, big guy.
Stephen A. Smith
I miss you too. I'm just saying, I mean, damn, how times have changed. I mean, the brother got the new heights podcast, got damn near 3 million subscribers, about to win another super. I mean, everywhere I turn around, I'm like, he's living the good life. How is life treating Travis Kelce these days, man?
Travis Kelce
Man, I can't complain about a single thing. I wouldn't if I could, but I, I just, I'm enjoying playing football right now at the, at the highest level, you know, we're back at it. Punch started taking into the dance and we're rocking and rolling, baby.
Stephen A. Smith
I, I, I. You know what? I applaud your response because I thought the response that you gave to people that were acting as if y'all were running from or avoiding playing it, wishing that you couldn't play the. But the Cincinnati Bengals. I'm like, excuse me. Yeah, excuse. He should have cursed the entire football world out for saying such a thing. Are you shocked that even after all the success that you guys have had that you have people still chirping about y'all along the lines of something like that?
Travis Kelce
You know, you would think that Andy Reid has gotten the respect from the rest of the league, that every single time he's. He's on the football field, he's playing to win the game. You know, obviously, we have bigger fish to fry, and at that point, you know, getting healthy and ready for this, this final stretch, was the biggest thing. But Coach Reed, anytime he's there, he's making sure he's motivating and challenging guys to be at the best and go out there and play a. You know, play a game to win it. And so I think, you know, everybody's going to chirp and say what they want, but I know the integrity of the team here, and we were going out there to win that game.
Stephen A. Smith
Well, listen, my point is, I don't. I certainly would not accuse y'all of losing on purpose or whatever, but I was discussed. I said five first downs in the whole damn game. I'm like, good lord, have mercy. I mean, I expected better than that from the third unit, for crying out loud. But it is what it is at the end. At the end of the day, y'all are reigning two time defending super bowl champions. Do you believe y'all have a better chance of winning this year than you did last year or even the year before?
Travis Kelce
You know, setting ourselves up with the. With the one seed, having. Having everybody have to come through Arrowhead, I think this year, it. It was such a different. It was such a different team, such a different feel. We. We were barely winning football games at the end of the game, so there is always that. That feeling of, we got to be better, we got to be better, we got to be better. And right now, we're playing our best football, man. And I'm definitely feeling confident, confident as heck that this team can make a run at it.
Stephen A. Smith
Confidence. There's no reason it shouldn't be there, Travis. But I got to ask this question. When you consider the fact that y'all have home field advantage and the road to the super bowl has to come through Arrowhead Stadium, I know that's a plus. But one could easily juxtapose that to saying there's a bit more pressure, because last year, after beating Miami, they had no chance against y'all with it. The minute the meteorologist said it was going to be the freeze, the temperatures, I knew Miami was done. They had no chance. Okay, but then after that, you go up against Buffalo. In Buffalo, you beat them. You go to the AFC championship game against Baltimore. In Baltimore, you beat them. So looking at that, could one make the argument that there's even more pressure on y'all now to, to be the first three peat super bowl champions in NFL history? But you got home field advantage. So if you could win on the road last year, why wouldn't you be able to win at home this year?
Travis Kelce
You know, I don't think anybody challenges me more than me. You know, I put the expectations on myself and this team more than anybody could put it on. Put it on us. And that being said, you know, I, like you were saying, I've won in someone else's stadium and I've won in my stadium. I've also lost in my stadium. So handling this situation the right way, playing, playing with the momentum of the crowd, not letting the, you know, the game get too big and, and, and, and, you know, I think the, the biggest thing is when you have home field advantage, you got to set the tone early. You got to set the tone early, come out hot and, and let the crowd be a part of it. Give them something to get riled up for and, and cheer for and let the other team feel like they're in a hostile environment. But you know, it's, it's, it's all mentality, man. It's all mentality and what we're doing out on the field. We love Arrowhead and how crazy it gets, but we know we got to handle business on the field.
Stephen A. Smith
And by the way, I got to throw myself on a sword. Let America know, damn it. I mean, you my brother from another mother, but I've lied to you for years. I've been telling you I'm going to get to Arrowhead Stadium and I haven't done it yet. So I.
Travis Kelce
Come on, man. Come on, baby.
Stephen A. Smith
It's on me. It's on me. I got to get the freezing ass Arrowhead Stadium. But let me, let me ask you this. And I say this. Half. Half you, you know, playing halfway, playing. When you gonna stop lying to the American public and telling them you thinking about retirement? I know you're 35 years of age, you just completed your 12th season, but damn, 97 catches, 823 receiving yards. Okay, I'm looking at you this year. I'm Andy Reid. Ain't Going nowhere. Patrick Mahomes damn sure ain't going nowhere. The Arrowhead faithful ain't going anywhere. What you doing talking about you might, you might contemplate retirement for.
Travis Kelce
It changes every single day. Man, I love everything that I'm doing in this building, but at the end of the day, you know, I'm not having that, that extreme success on the field as I, as I have individually, man. But I'm excited. I'm excited for these next couple games to play up at Arrowhead to finish this season off, and I'll reevaluate it like I always do and I'll probably tell myself how much I love this thing and I'll come back next year. But it's just, it's something that you have to, you have to keep into perspective, man. And, and I never want to get to the point where I'm not helping this team win or I'm hurting this team more than I'm helping this team. So as long as I'm coming out here playing good football and enjoying coming into the building every day with my guys, you'll see me in a chief's uniform.
Stephen A. Smith
Let me remind you of some stats. I just want to throw this out at you. Last year you had 93 receptions. This year you had 97. Now you had about 984 receiving yards. This year is in the eight figures. I get that part. Then the playoffs arrived, Travis, and you had 32 receptions for 355 yards. Okay. I mean, I don't see the kind of drop off that you're alluding to. Educate football lovers out there about what it is that you think you might be missing now compared to what you may have had last year and, and years prior that has you contemplating stuff on a day to day basis.
Travis Kelce
Well, the biggest thing is, is some of the most fun you ever have in this game is having the ball in your hands. And that being said, making guys miss was something I always prided myself on and really like that was the staple. You know, I made the, I made the play more than what it was supposed to get. So if, if I got a deep cross at 18 yards, I'm not just catching the ball and getting tackled. I'm turning that 18 yard gain into 20, 30, 40 plus yard gain. And over the past years, being able to make guys miss just, it's gotten a little bit tougher. And whether or not they just know my moves and I got to switch it up or I got to, you know, break through tackles or find another way to trick them so I can make a mess. But that's the biggest thing is being able to make guys miss in space and getting those extra yards that aren't necessarily in the scheme of the play.
Stephen A. Smith
You're confiding in me about it, so it's safe to assume it's a conversation you've had with Andy Reid, it's a conversation you've had with Patrick Mahomes. What have they told you about what they see from you out on the field?
Travis Kelce
You know, I haven't really talked to anybody about this. You know, I think I'm still enjoying playing the game. And when I'm in the building, I'm working to get better. Working to get, you know, those, that extra, you know, strength or that extra quickness to be able to make guys miss. It's, it's a non stop, like, staircase of success here. And week in, week out, Coach Reed has challenged us. Our tight end room has challenged me to, to, to do more of that throughout the season, get more than what we're just getting on the catch. And it's a focus. It's a focus that is, that's been there since the, since the, since I've got here in Kansas City. And you know, I'm, I'm not contemplating it too much, but at the same time, I'm always trying to be better than I am right now.
Stephen A. Smith
Well, I'm, I got, I got a personal complaint from my brother from another mother. I got a personal complaint right here. And I'm gonna tell you what it is. Travis, you know, when you used to go in the end zone, I mean, my brother got flavor. You understand? All white dudes don't have this kind of flavor that this brother has with Travis Kelce and the dances that you would come up with in the end zone. I mean, that stuff was epic. I think you kind of dialed that back a little bit. And dare I say, you got a little bit conservative. Might be a spike here, you might slap a high five. I don't see the flavor, the celebrations, the dance moves that you used to rock anymore. I, I understand you ain't catching a whole bunch of touchdowns. I get that part. You got other people to do that for you, but you still get in the end zone from time to time, and I know you're gonna do it in the playoffs. What's up with that? What happened to that flavor, bro?
Travis Kelce
I mean, you know what? I think you just called me out, man. I think I need to get back to it. I think I need to get back to it matter of fact, the next one I get in there, I'll make sure I get jiggy for you, man. It's definitely a part of just loving the game, man, and enjoying the game and having the showmanship to play with the crowd and play with the teammates and. And the excitement after you score a touchdown. So I think you just. You know what? You might get me back into my old way.
Stephen A. Smith
Damn right. Get back in your own way. That way you're going to stay a few more years in Kansas City. You don't need to go nowhere. Listen, we don't need. We don't need to be a Tyreek Hill. I know that's your former teammate and you love him, but I got love for Tyreek Hill. I think he's one. I love him to death because I think he's elite. I personally believe the biggest mistake. How do you leave Patrick Mahomes? How do you leave Patrick Mahomes? You want to get the money, but if you go, leave and you're going to get the money, Travis, you can't go out and say your next quarterback is going to be comparable to Patrick Mahomes. Could you at least give me that. Could you at least give me that, Travis? At least that.
Travis Kelce
You know. You know, we love the Cheetah, and he was, he was, he was being a good teammate is what he was being. So I respect him saying it, and he was being hopeful. And Tua came out and had an unbelievable year last year. Obviously he's had the concussions and everything, but there's nobody like Patrick Mahomes. And everybody knows that, right? But he was just being a good teammate, trying to shout out his new qb. We miss the guy. And, and I still love him to death, man. The Cheetah will forever be one of the most explosive players that have ever played this game. And, and, and a true brother to me, man.
Stephen A. Smith
Well, listen, man, let me, let me get a little personal with you right here because you and I have known each other for years. I got a lot of love for you. And you know me. I don't ask a bunch of questions. I ain't gonna ask one. I ain't gonna ask a bunch of questions now, but we gonna get a little personal here for a second. How's life, my brother? I mean, Travis Kelsey, OSTAF football field. You, you, you living a little bit better than most. I mean, I mean, could you explain in general?
Travis Kelce
I'm enjoying all aspects of life. That's for damn sure, man. Taylor are happy and I couldn't Be happier to. To have that, you know, that confidence and that comfort off the field and all the support I could ever ask for in the stadium, man.
Stephen A. Smith
Yo, Travis, I got a confession to make, bro.
Travis Kelce
What's that, bro?
Stephen A. Smith
I never really listened to her music before I went to her concert. Yo, Travis, it's the greatest concert I've ever been to in my life.
Travis Kelce
It's off the chain, isn't it?
Stephen A. Smith
I couldn't believe it. It's the greatest concert I ever been to in my life. I mean, and my daughters hoodwinked me because they got me to take 10 of their friends. Now, that was 2,000 a pop. I spent $20,000 on that damn concert. $20,000.
Travis Kelce
That's resale, by the way. That's resale.
Stephen A. Smith
I ain't got your money. I ain't got your money, Travis. I ain't got. I damn sure I don't have her money. I can't. I couldn't. I said, this better be worth it. And I gotta confess, it was so damn good. I went back twice, Stephen. They.
Travis Kelce
Oh, yeah, you went.
Stephen A. Smith
Nice. I went twice. I went to two Taylor Swift concerts, bro. Two Taylor Swift.
Travis Kelce
She had you singing along the second time you started to pick up on something.
Stephen A. Smith
And dancing. And dancing. Ain't that something? Ain't that something? With that being said, when you look at your life right now, has that added to your football talents in your estimation, or has it been. I'm gonna compare it to a fighter. Whereas you starving, you struggling, you going out there and you hardcore because you got to go and get it. And then all of a sudden, you hit the jackpot with everything that you're doing. Super bowl championships, you know, hard in your life and what have you. It's the equivalent of waking up in silk pajamas and trying to go in that boxing ring and get it done. Where would you describe your mentality to be at this particular moment in time, knowing how well everything is going for you, both personally and professionally?
Travis Kelce
Well, I think personally, you know, that's the beauty of being in a very strong relationship, is that you get that support to be able to come in and focus on your craft, focus on being the best version of you, you know, that's why I wanted to be at the concert, supporting her and being there for her, making sure she feels comfortable and supported in everything she's doing in life. And, you know, I think I'm as focused as I've ever been on my job and being the best player that I could possibly be week in, week out for this team. And, you know, it's because I don't have to worry about things off the field.
Stephen A. Smith
There were people that looked at you at the beginning of the season and felt like you weren't in peak condition. And they didn't blame her, but they were saying, you being so supportive of her and traveling so much, that took away from you. How did you feel when you were hearing that kind of noise about yourself at that time?
Travis Kelce
Well, the first thing is you got. You have to be true to yourself. You know, people are saying things. You got to be able to reflect and look at yourself and see, you know, why are they saying these things? And I was still playing high. I was still playing at a high level, you know, knowing all that had been said. We were winning football games, which is all I ever care about. And on top of that, this building knew how hard I worked and how much focus I have on football throughout the year. So it's just what's true, what's real, and how do we. How do we become better knowing that, you know, what I'm putting out on the field may not have been my best, or how do I keep getting better throughout, knowing that the roles have changed a little bit.
Stephen A. Smith
What kind of conversations did you have with your brother Jason about such subjects? This is a guy that's a champion, obviously, playing in the NFL for as long as he did. Damn it. I don't even remember him missing a game in 13 years, for crying out loud. And by the way, I love your brother on espn. He's a welcome teammate. He's a really good. He's a really good guy. I love talking to him whenever I get the opportunity to do so. But what kind of conversations were you having with him about how you were looking or how you were feeling at that particular moment in time and. And how you were feeling about ultimately continuing your playing career?
Travis Kelce
You know, I've been so fortunate to have Jason always two steps ahead of me. He's two years older than me. We followed each other to Cincinnati, University of Cincinnati. We followed each other to be under a coach Andy Reid or get drafted by Coach Reed. And I've seen how it's done the right way, you know, both on the field and off the field. I think my brother is a great model of success, you know, in the city of Philadelphia just as much as he is at the Link, and. And I love him for it. And I don't necessarily even have to have a lot of questions for him, but just have a talk about life with them and. And I Can get a lot out of that. Out of that. I think my brother. My brother's biggest thing is, you know, when you come into the building, do you still feel, you know, the energy? Do you still feel the excitement? And. And do you still feel like you can do it at a high level week in, week out, knowing the. The seasons are only getting longer with the Madden, the 17th game and another playoff seed or another playoff team into the playoffs? So it's just hearing him talk about how the. The end of his career came about and how he. How tough of a decision it was for him. I can get all. All the. You know, I can get set in the right direction by just being an ear.
Stephen A. Smith
I'll tell you this much, man, I wish he hadn't retired, because I think the Philadelphia Eagles would even be better off if he was still there. And then we learned after he departed that that was one of the reasons Jalen Hurts was struggling, because he was deferring to Jason. And, you know, with a lot of stuff that was going on, I'm like, well, damn it, how come you didn't beg him to stay? You should have begged him to stay an additional year or two. That's where I'm going with that. But I'll tell you this, too, as well. When I think about your brother and your New Heights podcast, I want you to talk about how that came about, how that unfolds. You guys got, what, 2.5 million subscribers from crying the line and deserve it, by the way. Congrats. It's more than I got. It's more than I got for the moment, damn it. All right. And you deserve it.
Travis Kelce
Just for the moment. Just for the moment.
Stephen A. Smith
You know I'm coming. You know I'm always coming. But here's the but. But here's the deal. How did that come about? And how do you feel about you two doing that and what kind of impact y'all are having, not just in football, but beyond.
Travis Kelce
Yeah. And, you know, I think that's been the goal for a lot of football players in this league, is to set yourself up. Because we know this. This game, it isn't forever, and you got to be able to set yourself for what happens after football. And me and Jason, we. To be honest, we just. We missed each other. We hadn't had those conversations every single week, and now we have two hours set aside every single week to talk football, catch up on things, and just be brothers. And, you know, you got that aspect of wanting to set yourself, set yourself up after football, and then Everybody always said, before new heights, me and Jason were on two completely different sides of the spectrum. You know, he's a. He still wears flip flops in the snow, and I like to, you know, bundle up and, and look fresh and, you know, have fun with the things that I wear, where Jason is just about a Neanderthal in that world. And they did. They just never saw the similarities. Until you get us into the same room and hear us talk at like a lunch table or dinner table, you don't really realize how close we are as brothers, knowing that we're only two years apart. And I've been following him throughout my entire life, man. So I wanted to showcase that and let people know how strong of a bond and how much we support each other and what a true brotherhood looks like.
Stephen A. Smith
Well, now that you've done that, what do you two, like talk talking about most outside of football? I'm talking about outside of football. On the podcast, the kind of information or the kind of subject matter you want to disseminate to the public, what do you enjoy tackling most?
Travis Kelce
You know, what the. The most fun I have is, is talking about my childhood, my love for sports, and what really sparked me to get into the profession that I am to that I have today. And I think having ex players come on, having the stars of my childhood and Jason's childhood come on and talk about what made them great and just the stories of what they went through, I think that's the funnest part, is being able to just talk to Jason about our childhood and tell the fun stories about being in the Kelsey household as well as the things that we love to do as kids and now as adults, are you prepared and is.
Stephen A. Smith
Jason prepared for the fact that as y'all continue to grow and shine because the podcast is not going away, as your audience grows, I know you're going to want to continue to do it. With that being said, you're going to have to find yourself being a bit critical of folks out there when they ain't getting the job done, when they mess up. And you as a three time super bowl champion, him as a champion, when you think about what y'all are bringing to the table in that regard, are y'all prepared to have to deal with all of that?
Travis Kelce
And you know what? I think that's what makes guys like yourself so good, is the ability to. To be true. And I think you've always been true to me in my career. You've called me out on numerous times, and I've always accepted that, and I've always, you know, re. Reevaluated what I've been doing because you do. You always keep it real and you always keep it honest, and that's why I love listening to you, big dog. But I think. I think that is a talent in itself. I, I. Me, personally, I like to shine light on everybody and everything. I don't really like to take too many shots at people unless I've been truly disrespected, so. Right. It is. It is. It has been a bit of a challenge being able to call things out and be confident and try and be critical without chopping somebody down, but it's definitely something that. That I'm working on for sure.
Stephen A. Smith
I try. I try to make sure I don't get personal and that a guy knows that when I'm being critical of you, I. I'm not rooting against you. I'm telling you, you ain't doing what you supposed to be doing.
Travis Kelce
You know, I get it.
Stephen A. Smith
Your ability to do that, you get that. I get that. Jason gets that. But you know as well as I do, not just in the NFL, but in professional sports, there's a lot of cats that don't get it and don't embrace it that way. How do you deal with that?
Travis Kelce
Well, what's real and what's not real? I was talking about it earlier, about watching film and seeing, you know, how. How the success I've had in the past is compared to the success I'm having now. And I think it's the same in the media. You know, somebody saying something, what's warranted them for saying that? Why? What's the reasoning for it? You have to be confident in your abilities, but also confident to just keep trying to find ways to better yourself, better your team. And. And you always got to separate reality from. From what's not real. And what's real for me is the building I walk into, the faces that I go to work with, and then the people that I love at home. And, you know, that's what. That's what you really gotta, I don't know, differentiate and be comfortable in your own skin, man. You can't get. Yeah.
Stephen A. Smith
Appropriate question to ask with that Lombardi Trophy hanging above your head right there. Y'all shine to it. There you go. There you go. That ain't your office, though. Is. I mean, is that your crib?
Travis Kelce
My guy, Brad. GS. That's my guy, Brad.
Stephen A. Smith
I got you. So. So here you are on the verge of possibly being the first team in NFL History to three peat as super bowl champions. It's one thing to compartmentalize and say we just here, we going for the chip. Obviously, y'all said it on stage after y'all beat San Francisco in the super bowl last year. We going for a three peat first team in order to pull it off. What would that mean to y'all?
Travis Kelce
Man, you know, I've always been trying to chase greatness my entire life. I've been so fortunate to be able to come here to Kansas City and have to fill the shoes of a guy like Tony Gonzalez. And then, you know, when you start to have your own success, you start to really feel the urge to keep being greater than what you've been in the past. And no team has ever done it three times in a row, man. And I don't know why, but last year I felt like I wanted it more than I. Than I had in previous years because it was the upper echelon of teams that had gone back to back. You know, they were considered dynasty teams. They were considered teams that, you know, took over an entire decade of football and remember forever. And those teams being able to get it done a third time all fell short. And I see that as an opportunity to be the greatest dynasty or the greatest, you know, team of the decade, however you want to call it. But I just have it in me to really want that for the guys that I've gone to war with in this building and have seen work so hard to be able to get it to this point. Man.
Stephen A. Smith
Travis, let me throw this out at you, bro. Travis Kelce, all time NFL rank as a tight end. Receptions third behind Tony Gonzalez and Jason Whitten. Receiving yards third behind Tony Gonzalez and Jason Witten. Touchdown catches fifth all time. If you three peat, is it possible that in a month's time, Travis Kelsey says, I did it, we three peated? Look at my numbers. I'm done. My football career is over.
Travis Kelce
Man. You know, I think, I think I'm so deep in chasing this one right now, I can't even fathom what football would be like. Not in my, like, not playing football as a profession. Man, I, I still love coming into the building every single day. Does it get hard? Yeah, but I'm not, I'm not doing it for the stats. I'm doing it for the, the greatness, the legacy that we've created here in Kansas City with, with Pat was Chris Jones, with Coach Reed, Coach Spags, you name it, all the guys in the building, man, it's been, it's been so much fun coming in the building with these guys. So I, I can't fathom what it would feel like just being able to say I'm, I'm satisfied because I'm still hungry to go and get something right now.
Stephen A. Smith
You know, I remember when Tom Brady was winning Super Bowls, he had a supermodel for a wife that wanted him to retire. Is Ms. Swift, is she encouraging you to continue to play or to retire because it is a violent sport and oh, yeah, she don't want you hurt.
Travis Kelce
She's fully encouraging me to enjoy playing this game and she loves coming to Arrowhead and coming to the games and cheering for me. So I got all the support in the world to keep chasing these dreams.
Stephen A. Smith
Andy Reid, the best coach ever, the.
Travis Kelce
Greatest to ever do it. Even with Belichick day out, week in, week out, the winds are there, the Super Bowls are there. He's gone every, everywhere he's gone, he's won and, and he's done it in a, in a way that's, that's so much respected by everybody that plays for him.
Stephen A. Smith
I don't know if you notice, Andy Reid and I go back to my Philadelphia days. I love that. Oh, yeah, I love that, man. I'm gonna talk to him soon. But Andy Reid, what makes him special? I know he knows what he's doing as a football coach, but I'm talking about from a personality standpoint. For him to be his age, to be around as long as he is, and to be so relatable to the modern day player while still having structure and discipline. Every coach can't pull that off. How does he do it?
Travis Kelce
Well, he's, he's tough and he shows his toughness every single day. He shows his desire to be at his best every single day. I'd laugh about it all the time. I never see his truck leave this parking lot. Man, this guy loves, loves being accountable and loves coming in and being his best for, for this organization in this city. And I just, I think it's a, it's a unique blend of being able to be relatable to everybody. No matter how old he gets and how young these players are getting in the league, he, he always has the ability to relate to guys, and that's big in the football world because these days, these days get long and, you know, it's just, it gets difficult coming in and doing the same routines for 20 weeks out of the year. So being able to relate to everybody, being able to have that toughness to respect out of everybody and on top of that being true. He's always real. He'll tell. He'll tell you when you're slacking. No matter if you're eight time Pro Bowler or the rookie on the team, he'll tell you when you're slacking and when you need to pick it up. And honestly, because you relate to him so well and he has so much toughness, it typically just turns into a challenge for you to get better. And, and I think he does that better than anybody in the league. On top of just being able to be creative and have fun, you know, making up these plays in the building and always putting his players in the best place to. Or the best situations to have success on the field.
Stephen A. Smith
Two quick last questions before I let you go. Patrick Mahomes. Three super bowl titles in five years. If y'all had an offensive line, it would have been four. But at the end of the day, here's what it comes down to. A lot of people look at him and they say he's the best ever. Others look at a Joe Montana, four rings. Others look at a Pat, a Tom Brady, seven rings. The three peat will cement it, okay? But without the three peat, you look at Patrick Mahomes right now, based on the guys that I mentioned, he's the best on the planet to you ever.
Travis Kelce
Best to ever do it. The best to ever do it. And to be honest, I think, you know, obviously I'm a little biased. I think I've been on the receiving end of a lot of Pat Mahomes throws that have just blown my mind that he could even make these throws sometimes. But his ability, his natural ability to make plays, him make plays, break, break tackles, throw the ball across the field. It's, it's. He's done it in a way that no quarterback has ever played this game. And, and he's won at a very, very high level. You know, with, with the world counting them out a few times and, And I think that, you know, his ability to lead just like Coach Reed and his ability to come in and motivate guys and make guys better on this team is second to none, man. And I just, I see it every single day, just like I see it with Coach Reed. His attention to detail, how fast he thinks, how fast he can get the ball out, his ability to make every throw. And then on top of that, the you, you got the wins and the Super Bowls to do it.
Stephen A. Smith
Is there somebody that you think is the toughest competition waiting for you or.
Travis Kelce
I said this on new heights, man. I want to play the best man, whoever that is, whoever we're presented, I want them to be at their best, and I want it to be, you know, a challenge that's. That's worth fighting for, man. I just love. I love this time of the year. I think it's. It's my favorite time of the year. I've been hoping I could press fast forward just to get to this point, but know that the NFL doesn't work like that. But whoever, we get an Arrowhead. I'm fired up and I'm ready to compete and just give him our best.
Stephen A. Smith
My very last question. Is it all right for us to call you a Swiftie? Is that all right?
Travis Kelce
Yeah. I'm the number one Swifty.
Stephen A. Smith
Number one, right?
Travis Kelce
Number one. You know it.
Stephen A. Smith
Even more than Mama. Even more than Mama. She seems to be swifty now.
Travis Kelce
You already know I'm right there. We're neck and neck. We're right there. We're tied at the top.
Stephen A. Smith
Nothing but love for you, my brother. It's so good to see you, man. You know I'm gonna catch you down the road. I'll be at the Super Bowl. I'll. I'll try to get to Arrowhead before. I can't make any promises. The weather's cold. Weather's cold. I can't make any promises. But I miss you, my man. And yes, I'm coming on new heights. When you call, I'll be there.
Travis Kelce
You're the best to ever do it, Stephen.
Stephen A. Smith
All right. Love you, bro.
Travis Kelce
Appreciate you having me on, man.
Stephen A. Smith
Thanks a lot, my man.
Travis Kelce
All right, now.
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Travis Kelce
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Episode Overview: In this compelling episode of The Stephen A. Smith Show, host Stephen A. Smith engages in an in-depth conversation with Kansas City Chiefs’ star tight end, Travis Kelce. Released on January 16, 2025, the interview delves into Kelce’s illustrious NFL career, his personal life including his relationship with pop icon Taylor Swift, and the Chiefs' pursuit of becoming the first team in NFL history to secure a three-peat Super Bowl championship.
Three-Peat Ambitions: Stephen A. Smith opens the discussion by lauding Kelce's career achievements, highlighting his status as a potential future Hall of Famer. The conversation quickly shifts to the Chiefs' historic pursuit of a three-peat Super Bowl title.
Stephen A. Smith [23:20]: "Here you are on the verge of possibly being the first team in NFL History to three-peat as Super Bowl champions... What would that mean to y'all?"
Kelce expresses his relentless drive for greatness and the legacy he aims to build with the Chiefs.
Travis Kelce [23:20]: "Man, you know, I've always been trying to chase greatness my entire life... I see that as an opportunity to be the greatest dynasty or the greatest, you know, team of the decade."
Handling Expectations and Pressure: Smith probes the added pressure of defending champions, especially with home-field advantage at Arrowhead Stadium.
Stephen A. Smith [03:23]: "Could one make the argument that there's even more pressure on y'all now to be the first three-peat Super Bowl champions?"
Kelce acknowledges the heightened expectations but emphasizes the team's focus and mental preparedness.
Travis Kelce [04:36]: "It's all mentality and what we're doing out on the field. We love Arrowhead and how crazy it gets, but we know we got to handle business on the field."
Contemplating Retirement: Smith challenges Kelce on rumors about him considering retirement, especially after a stellar season statistically.
Stephen A. Smith [05:39]: "When you gonna stop lying to the American public and telling them you thinking about retirement?"
Kelce clarifies that while thoughts about the future do occur, his primary focus remains on excelling in the present.
Travis Kelce [06:16]: "At the end of the day, I'm not having that extreme success as I have individually... As long as I'm coming out here playing good football and enjoying coming into the building every day with my guys, you'll see me in a Chief's uniform."
Performance and Evolution: Discussing his performance metrics, Kelce highlights his evolving game and the challenges of maintaining peak performance.
Travis Kelce [07:37]: "Making guys miss... it's gotten a little bit tougher. I have to switch it up or break through tackles to find another way to trick them."
Relationship with Taylor Swift: A lighter segment of the interview touches on Kelce’s personal life, specifically his relationship with pop superstar Taylor Swift.
Stephen A. Smith [12:05]: "Travis Kelsey, OSTAF football field... you living a little bit better than most."
Kelce shares how Swift's support contributes positively to his life and career.
Travis Kelce [26:06]: "She's fully encouraging me to enjoy playing this game... I got all the support in the world to keep chasing these dreams."
Public Persona and Celebrations: Smith playfully critiques Kelce's end-zone celebrations, urging him to bring back his signature flair.
Stephen A. Smith [09:17]: "When you used to go in the end zone... what's up with that? What happened to that flavor, bro?"
Kelce responds with enthusiasm to reignite his celebratory antics.
Travis Kelce [10:02]: "I think I need to get back to it... next one I'll make sure I get jiggy for you, man."
Andy Reid's Influence: A significant portion of the conversation focuses on the pivotal role of Chiefs’ head coach Andy Reid in the team’s success.
Travis Kelce [26:20]: "He's tough and he shows his toughness every single day... He always has the ability to relate to guys."
Kelce praises Reid’s ability to balance discipline with relatability, fostering a culture of accountability and excellence.
Patrick Mahomes and Team Synergy: Discussing star quarterback Patrick Mahomes, Kelce offers high praise for Mahomes' exceptional talent and leadership.
Travis Kelce [29:02]: "His ability to make plays... he's done it in a way that no quarterback has ever played this game."
Kelce underscores the synergy between Mahomes and the coaching staff as a cornerstone of the Chiefs’ formidable performance.
Building a Legacy Beyond Football: Kelce touches on his and his brother Jason’s podcast, New Heights, highlighting their efforts to build a legacy outside their athletic careers.
Travis Kelce [17:59]: "We just missed each other... now we have two hours set aside every single week to talk football, catch up on things, and just be brothers."
They aim to offer insightful conversations on sports and personal growth, reaching over 2.5 million subscribers.
Balancing Personal and Professional Life: Kelce emphasizes the importance of a strong personal support system in maintaining his professional performance.
Travis Kelce [13:40]: "I think personally, that's the beauty of being in a very strong relationship... I don't have to worry about things off the field."
Commitment to Excellence: As the interview wraps up, Kelce reaffirms his unwavering commitment to the Chiefs and his personal drive for continuous improvement.
Travis Kelce [25:06]: "I can't fathom what football would be like... I'm still hungry to go and get something right now."
Final Exchanges and Warm Farewells: Stephen A. Smith wraps up the conversation with light-hearted banter, further solidifying the camaraderie between host and guest.
Stephen A. Smith [30:44]: "Is that all right for us to call you a Swiftie? Is that all right?"
Travis Kelce [30:44]: "Yeah. I'm the number one Swifty."
Conclusion: This episode offers a multifaceted glimpse into Travis Kelce’s life, balancing his on-field prowess with his personal passions and future aspirations. Through candid discussions and engaging anecdotes, both Smith and Kelce provide listeners with an authentic portrayal of a modern NFL superstar striving for greatness both within and beyond the realm of football.