E (4:46)

Well, why was Dan Gilbert so insistent.

D (4:49)

On not minding his business and speaking out against this? So, so, so vociferously? Because he was still off at how he was treated by LeBron James. See, LeBron gets his money, but this collateral damage that he leaves in his wake all over the place. And other players don't usually see that until it's too late. But we don't talk about that because he's box office and he's phenomenal and he's on the Mount Rushmore of basketball. And where he goes, ratings follow. And because of that, we gloss over those facts. But those ain't the only facts we gloss over. When LeBron talked about the media weeks ago, what does he do now? He comes on Pat McAfee's show again today and listen to what he had to say. Listen closely, check it out.

F (5:40)

See a lot of shit, too. Like, I seen Brian Warhurst on one of these shows not too long ago.

E (5:45)

Like I said, Wendy, you guys played together in high school.

D (5:49)

He was on your high school.

F (5:50)

This guy was like, you know, says he's like my best friend. These guys are just weird.

D (5:55)

I have worked with Brian Windhorse for years. Never once did he say that LeBron was a best friend. A matter of fact, years earlier, it was LeBron who sat in front of the microphones and said, probably nobody knows me better than Brian Windhorst who's been covering me since I was in junior high school. But that's how he talked about him. Brian Windhorse is an exceptional commentator who does a phenomenal job for espn. My show, Get Up NBA Today Sports Centers, goes and covers the game. He is one of the elite people.

E (6:51)

Covering the NBA in this world. And nobody, I repeat, nobody, defends LeBron James more than that man.

D (7:04)

And look at what LeBron James did. Y'all have watched Wendy Report for years.

E (7:15)

Tell me one time, tell me one.

D (7:18)

Thing that Brian went to us has done to negatively impact LeBron James. 1.

E (7:25)

Take your time.

D (7:26)

I'll wait. Nobody is more fair. Nobody digs deeper, maneuvers through the crevices to find the positive about LeBron James, no matter what, what the story is. But that's how LeBron talked about him. He doesn't stop there, though.

E (7:58)

He also went into today's players compared to yesteryear. I thought that was a subject he didn't want to touch. I thought that we should just have an appreciation for the game and not really, really compare.

D (8:16)

LeBron James was one of the people that told us that until he had the platform to vent and look at.

F (8:26)

What he said every single day. That he's better. He's not better. He wouldn't. You're trying to tell me Giannis wouldn't be able to play an NBA game in the 70s?

D (8:38)

He wouldn't be able to deal with.

E (8:39)

Yeah, neither would you. Neither would you.

F (8:41)

Giannis Antetokounmpo would have 250 points in a game in the 70s. 250 perhaps.

D (8:55)

But wasn't that disrespectful to the pioneers who paved the way for this game, ladies and gentlemen? Would Julius Ervin have been who he was if it were not for Connie Hawkins? Would Michael Jordan had had a model to emulate and elevate beyond if it were not for Julius Irvin? What about Vince Carter when it comes to Michael Jordan?

E (9:22)

What about Kobe Bryant when it comes to Michael Jordan? What about Shaq when it came to Wilt or Kareem or Elijah Julia? What about the birds of the world? When you think about Jerry west, when you think about somebody like that, the Kobe's of the world, the MJ's of the world, there was no Elgin Baylor, Oscar Robinson before them. You see, the point is you use previous greatness to measure what the level of greatness is currently, as times have evolved, and you show an appreciation for it. You don't get upset because people are out there comparing one to the other. You're talking about championships, you're talking about leadership, you're talking about durability, which obviously.

D (10:25)

LeBron is tops at.

E (10:27)

Not only capabilities which he's on the mount. That's why he's on the Mount Rushmore. I could simply sit up there and say, you know what Giannis would have got his Giannis would have been great, but he also would have got knocked on his ass a lot.

D (10:41)

And he would have went to the free throw line. And the free throw line was his Achilles heel. With the exception of that Game 6.

E (10:46)

Closeout against Phoenix in the Finals, free throws have always been his Achilles heel. But he's phenomenal. We're able to look and we're able to say, as we look at the great Allen Iverson and we look at some of the great, great small gods in NBA history, we also have to take time to pause and remind them about this dude named Isaiah Thomas who was phenomenal with a heart and guts and the leader of the physical bad boy Pistons. We look at the game, we talk about Steph Curry, the greatest shooter God has ever created. Oh, by the way he plays a point guard. And oh my Lord, the Greatest point guard. And then a guy like Eddie Johnson for NBA Today or NBA Radio on Sirius XM reminds us, oh, wait a minute. My definition of a point guard is a quintessential floor facilitator. A floor general who facilitates for others, facilitates opportunities for others. That's why Steph Curry can't get that. That's gotta be Magic Johnson. It's a CR. To bring up history, to look at the game and to compare it and to have an opinion about it. When the conversation unquestionably and undeniably involves greatness, if you're not great, you're not a part of that conversation. Nobody views that as a crime. But that man that showed up on.

D (12:18)

Pat McAfee show today, because he must be the goat. It can't be anything else. You lost six NBA Finals. There is a definals against Dallas that you specifically choked in four consecutive fourth.

E (12:37)

Quarters of an NBA final series against Dirk Nowitzki and the Dallas Mavericks with Jason Terry or J.J. barrea, who resembled Mini Me standing next to you, guarding you. And you average 2.2 points in the fourth quarter. As great as you are, had nothing to do with your skill. Had nothing to do with their. Their zone defense. Had nothing to do with your capabilities. Had everything to do with your heart. The rest of us didn't have the skill. You had everything.

D (13:10)

But also a 10 man syndrome at that time. Once you learn to win, nothing can stop you.

E (13:18)

If we only went about LeBron, if we only looked at LeBron James career since he won his first championship, ladies.

D (13:25)

And gentlemen, we could have the goat conversation.

E (13:29)

Because since he started winning, my God.

D (13:33)

It is what it is.

E (13:35)

But before that, that heart transplant that he needed, it is my belief Michael Jordan would have been in the hospital blocking the door every single time, figuratively speaking, to prevent him from having that heart transplant. He had shut him down, took his heart right out of his chest and wouldn't have allowed him to have another heart. That's the difference.

D (14:03)

That's how I feel. Others may think differently. Clearly that man does. And y'all go just sit here and act like that had nothing to do with him getting in my face. None at all. Remember how I told y'all the story about I'd look at Rich Paul and them and I say, damn it, I.

E (14:30)

Got him on the Mount Rushmore. I got him number two all time. And y'all act like it's an insult. And Rich Paul looked at me and.

D (14:37)

Said, it is an insult. Where you get that from? Not to say that Rich Paul doesn't think for himself because I know he does. But that man feels that way. No, he doesn't like me. I don't like him either. My feelings about him are what they are and is based on personal interactions and what I've seen in terms of how I believe he's treated others. It's my opinion it's none of anybody's business. Beyond that, his feelings are about me talking about basketball. And y'all gonna let him get away. You're trying to classify me as somebody who would talk about him as a dad, as if I exposed something that was happening in the privacy of their home in Brentwood somewhere, as opposed to me talking about what's going on in a Lakers uniform at the crypto.com arena or elsewhere. Y'all go let him get away with that. Y'all go right ahead. I don't have to broach this subject anymore, but I will broach LeBron James any damn time I please. As long as he's playing this game, he's a relevant sports news topic. And I'm going to do my job professionally, ethically. I don't have to like him to do that, and he doesn't have to like me in order for me to do it. I don't get paid to talk to him. I get paid to talk about him. I would tell him he's welcome to talk to me anytime, but we all know that ain't gonna happen. As I told y'all before, early in the show, just to make sure that it wasn't something that I would benefit from in terms of ratings or anything like that, I offered to come on the Shop. When they confronted me. This was a couple years ago. It's never happened. Because it's a little bit different when you got to say some of the stuff right in front of the person, and the person has facts to refute what you're saying. Maybe that's why he didn't want to meet me in the back after the game to have a conversation at the Lakers game. Maybe that's why he didn't come up to me and say, wait for me. I need talk to you. Maybe. Maybe that's why he didn't want to have to deal with a real conversation about all the things that he's done to create this whole brouhaha. I get it. I'm not going away, ladies and gentlemen. I don't have to talk to LeBron James. I don't know if you've noticed, but I'm doing fine. There are beat writers and other reporters that have to talk to him. I don't and to be quite honest with you at this point, don't much want to. I wish him well. I'm looking forward to covering him as his career slowly crawls to its end, and I'll be one of the first thanking him for the greatness he's put on display as a basketball player. I, like everybody else, will miss him when he's gone. As a man, in terms of how I firmly believe he elected to handle this situation with the cameraman behind him and all this other stuff, I think it's shady as hell. That's how I feel. That's where I stand, and there's little to nothing that he can do to change my mind at this point. God bless him and his family. Wish him nothing but the best. Look forward to talking to y'all about other NBA topics as well. And I don't give a damn what y'all said. It was no way in hell I was gonna let that man talk. The BS that he spewed today and I have a response to it. That was not gonna happen.

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