Bill Burr PART TWO - SAS CLASSIC

Summary

The Steve Austin Show

Episode: Bill Burr PART TWO – SAS CLASSIC
Date: January 15, 2026
Host: Steve Austin
Guest: Bill Burr
Location: Broken Skull Ranch / Hollywood, CA

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Overview

This episode of The Steve Austin Show features part two of Steve’s in-depth conversation with renowned stand-up comedian and writer Bill Burr. The discussion covers Bill’s journey in comedy, creative philosophy, flying helicopters, the making of his hit animated series “F is for Family,” and reflections on touring and everyday life. The episode oozes with candid humor, raw insights about showbiz, the realities of making it, and the blue-collar stamina both guests bring to their crafts.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Steve’s Life on the Ranch and Everyday Challenges

• [00:31]–[17:52]
  • Steve opens with humorous updates from the Broken Skull Ranch: brutal South Texas weather, tractor breakdowns, and battling bird and bug infestations.
    • Example: “If there’s one thing I can’t stand is pushing around a goddamn vacuum cleaner.” – Steve Austin [03:10]
  • Stories of helping his wife Kristen with housework and dealing with pets.
  • Amusing anecdote about being photobombed by a fly during a family picture:
    • “I got photobombed by a goddamn house fly.” – Steve Austin [12:09]
  • Turns the fly incident into an epic wrestling-style promo, challenging it to a Texas Death Match:
    • “Anytime, anywhere in the world, you want to settle a score one on one with Stone Cold Steve Austin, all you got to…no, no, no…meet me in Orlando at WrestleMania 33.” – Steve Austin [15:06]

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2. The Business of Comedy: Breaking Through and Going the Long Way

• [19:34]–[32:00]
  • Bill discusses building his stand-up career, underscoring the importance of having a great agent (Mike Berkowitz) who rose in the business alongside him. [20:24–21:17]
    • “We started working together in like 2001…He used to book me anywhere he could.” – Bill Burr [20:24]
  • The temptation of “hooks” in comedy (catchphrases, gimmicks), and how lasting success comes to those who focus on substance over shortcuts:
    • “If you just do what you’re supposed to do and you do the work…it’s a longer road…but then you become prolific.” – Bill Burr [21:17]
  • Parallels drawn between pro wrestling and stand-up, with both agreeing that authenticity beats gimmicks for career longevity.
    • “They would tell me…keep doing what you’re doing, because you’re not a gimmick…it’s going to take you longer to get over. But when you get over, you’re going to stay over.” – Steve Austin [22:37]
  • Bill recounts advice from Dave Chappelle:
    • “It’s going to take you longer, but when you hit, you gotta hit hard…just keep doing what you’re doing.” – Bill Burr [22:57]

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3. Developing an Authentic Stage Style

• [32:00]–[33:13]
  • Both Steve and Bill talk about the evolution of their stage personas by “turning up” their personalities, reflecting real life but at a higher volume.
  • Bill describes transitioning from performing clean, memorized material to letting his genuine anger and voice emerge:
    • “I was working totally clean…then it became, about a couple years of working totally clean, this isn’t who I am. I don’t talk like this. I’m an angry man…” – Bill Burr [30:18]

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4. Navigating Political Correctness in Comedy

• [33:13]–[35:31]
  • Bill gives a frank assessment of “political correctness”:
    • “That whole political correctness thing is…lazy journalism. It’s just an easy, like, you know…” – Bill Burr [33:15]
  • Both note that while controversy is sometimes manufactured in the media, comedy club crowds still enjoy edgy material as long as the intent is clear.

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5. Bill’s Helicopter Pilot Adventures

• [35:31]–[53:17]
  • Bill explains the complexities and thrill of earning a helicopter pilot’s license, including ground school and solo flights. [36:59–39:49]
    • “The thing I was intimidated by was the ground school…so much stuff you have to know…” – Bill Burr [36:59]
    • “Once you learn how to hold a hover…that’s the big thing…” – Bill Burr [38:59]
  • Recounts his first terrifying solo cross-country flight:
    • “…that three hours of being in the air…I just kept looking over at the empty seat going like, if this shit goes down…am I gonna live?” – Bill Burr [43:32]
  • Discusses love of helicopters, fears of heights, and flying as an “ultimate privilege.” [47:45–50:06]

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6. Creating “F is for Family”

• [53:17]–[62:52]
  • Bill details the origins of his Netflix animated hit:
    • “It was an idea that came about through telling family stories on stage…as I went from being the young baby face comic to the old guy, a whole new generation of parenting came about…” – Bill Burr [53:46]
  • Explains the process: from stories, to animation, to collaboration with Vince Vaughn’s production company, to finding a home for it at Netflix. [53:42–55:53]
    • “They loved it…introduced me to the great Mike Price from the Simpsons…then we pitched around Hollywood and everybody was…just wasn’t biting. And I thought it was over. And then Vince was like, let’s go to Netflix.” – Bill Burr [53:46–55:54]
  • Describes the animation production schedule and intensity of the writers’ room, including table reads, voice casting, and the importance of making even the actors laugh.
    • “One of my favorite parts of the first season was when the older brother Kevin saves Bill from getting beat up…when Bill thanks him, his older brother punches him in the stomach…that was, like, what being a kid was…” – Bill Burr [57:21]
    • “The biggest thrill I get with the writing is when the performers come in and…we can make him laugh like that…the great thing about a writer’s room is…the rules: you can’t get offended when you’re in there.” – Bill Burr [61:27, 64:27]

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7. Managing the Grind: Touring, Specials, and Creativity

• [64:39]–[70:18]
  • Bill discusses balancing his work on “F is for Family,” international standup tours, and preparing for his next comedy special.
    • “I’ve got like 90 minutes material, but I just have to see which ones are gonna be worthy of…can make the cut.” – Bill Burr [65:29]
  • Talks about process—running material by his wife, using “leftovers” between new hours, building new bits from life.
  • Parallels to wrestling: improvisation, authenticity, learning from legends.

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8. Travel Gripes and the Little Aggravations of Having “Paid Your Dues”

• [70:18]–[76:54]
  • Steve and Bill riff in hilarious detail on the indignities of air travel: crying babies, strangers’ cologne, passenger etiquette, reclining seats, and the trauma of economy coach.
    • “That’s my thing now, I blow most of my money on travel… I’m like, I ain’t going back.” – Bill Burr [71:54]
    • “When you finally…turn into Stone Cold or Taker, whoever, Hulk, Flair, once you get first class, you’re first class for life.” – Steve Austin [73:26]
  • Both agree that after years of grinding on the road, you earn the right to certain comforts.

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9. Closing and Gratitude

• [76:57]–[77:43]
  • Bill thanks Steve for years of entertainment:
    • “It was an absolute thrill to meet you…I got to shake your hand and thank you. The amount of entertainment you’ve given me and the laughs… you guys are some of the most amazing…” – Bill Burr [77:01]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Do what you’re supposed to do and you do the work…It’s definitely a longer road, but…then you become, like, prolific.”
  – Bill Burr [21:17]
• “They said, Steve, keep doing what you’re doing, because you’re not a gimmick…But when you get over, you’re gonna stay over.”
  – Steve Austin [22:37]
• “I was working totally clean…then it became, about a couple years of working totally clean, this isn’t who I am. I don’t talk like this. I’m an angry man…”
  – Bill Burr [30:18]
• “That whole political correctness thing is just lazy journalism…It’s a complete non-story.”
  – Bill Burr [33:15]
• (Describing solo helicopter flight): “I just kept looking over at the empty seat going like, if this shit goes down…am I gonna live?”
  – Bill Burr [43:32]
• “The great thing about a writer’s room is…the rules: you can’t get offended when you’re in there.”
  – Bill Burr [64:27]
• “When you finally…turn into Stone Cold or Taker, whoever, Hulk, Flair, once you get first class, you’re first class for life.”
  – Steve Austin [73:26]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:31 – 17:52: Steve’s ranch stories, bird/bug mayhem, housework, photobombed family photo, fly wrestling promo
• 19:34 – 32:00: Bill Burr on comedy career, agents, longevity, authenticity, parallels to wrestling
• 33:13 – 35:31: Political correctness, audience sensitivities
• 35:31 – 53:17: Bill’s pilot journey, flying helicopters, first solo
• 53:17 – 62:52: The making of “F is for Family,” producing animation, writing room processes
• 62:52 – 70:18: Stand-up touring, creating new hours, running material, writing process
• 70:18 – 76:54: Air travel pet peeves, “paying dues,” moving up to first class
• 77:01 – 77:43: Bill expresses gratitude to Steve; closing remarks

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Tone

The episode is wide open, uncensored, and characteristically “Stone Cold”—funny, direct, and blue-collar honest. Bill’s observations are sharp, self-deprecating, and peppered with deep respect for perseverance in the face of rejection. Their camaraderie creates a sense of kinship between wrestling and comedy—a mutual understanding rooted in hard work, creative risk, and real-world grit.

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For Listeners

This episode is a goldmine for fans interested in:

• The intersection of comedy and pro wrestling
• Creative longevity and career advice
• Inside stories on “F is for Family”
• A peek into the personalities of two icons, both at (and away from) work

Whether you’re a fan of Steve, Bill, or both, this conversation is packed with wisdom, laughs, and behind-the-scenes color that’ll keep you hooked ‘til the last bell.

Transcript

[Bill Burr]

The following program is a podcast one.com production he started in a small town in Texas, worked his ass off to.

[Steve Austin]

Become one of the most famous wrestlers of all time. We're gonna take care of business tonight. And that's the bottom line. And now he's dominating the world of On Demand Audio. And he's doing it for the working man. This is a damn good outlet for me to spew the off my brain.

[Adam Carolla]

This is the Steve Austin Show.

[Steve Austin]

Unleash. All right, everybody. Welcome to Steve Austin Show. I'm coming to you from the pride of South Texas, the Broken Skull Ranch down here in Tilden. I'll tell you what, man, my wife is sitting right next to me in sunflower seeds. Would you pick up your microphone, Chris? And welcome to the show.

[Kristen]

Thank you, Steve. I'm so happy to be here.

[Steve Austin]

God damn it. Hotter than. I tell you what, man, I done turned into a weather system. I've been living in Los Angeles for 12 years. You've been there your whole damn life. So you know what it's all about when you come down and like every morning when I wake up and I go out and let the dogs do their business or go check and put the trash cans out, it's 63 degrees. When you get up and get outside already, it's 90 degrees. The hottest has been 105.

[Kristen]

Yep. Well, that's what the thermometer says. I don't know what it is actually.

[Steve Austin]

God damn, you talk about a change of PA. It's 30 and 40 degrees hotter than I'm used to living.

[Kristen]

Yeah, and it's very humid, especially today.

[Steve Austin]

You know what? Goddamn, because it rained like a motherfucker. It's drying shit down here. And all of a sudden my shredder breaks down on my tractor. I come down here to mow everything. I want to mow my big ass front yard. I got that accomplished. I got a bunch of other roadways to mow and shit like that. And a goddamn part on my mower deck bus. And I called my tractor guy down there in Poteep, Texas, Elden, and he orders the part for me so I can't mow. And then it rained cats and dogs out here yesterday. What? Ran about two or three inches at least.

[Bill Burr]

God damn, it looked like a waterfall, man.

[Steve Austin]

So then, you know, I got trapped if my tractors broke down, you know, I came down here to do the manly work, the macho work, drive a tractor, put the front end loader on it, maybe cover up some holes where some hogs made a waller. You Go out there with my rifle, shoot a coyote or something. But no, because it's a goddamn muddy. I could get on my Kawasaki mule and ride around because it's four wheel drive, but it'll fuck my roads up. So I'm kind of relegated to staying in a house. And that's the way a lot of people are here in South Texas. I mean, because once you get out there on your roads, I mean, I've been four wheeling out there in Georgia when I was living down there. I'm a four wheeler. It's all fun and dandy. That was leased property. When you own a property and you got to take care of your roads, it's a little bit different ball game. So that means since my tractor's busted, my Komodo tractor, as Stacy would call it, I can't go mow. And because it's busted, and also because it's goddamn wet, I can't mow. So guess what?

[Kristen]

You're helping me with housework.

[Steve Austin]

I'm helping my baby girl with housework. Now, if there's one thing I can't stand is pushing around a goddamn vacuum cleaner. And then I got my shop vac and I vacuumed out every nook and cranny of the pavilion. And then I got that long feather duster with that thing off Teddy's porch, wiped all the cobwebs off all the damn crown moldings in the inside and outside of the house. And then I got the regular vacuum cleaner. And then I got the damn son of a bitch. Then I went out to the front door and a little baby bird made a nest on one of our outdoor lights on our front porch. And there's two little bitty baby birds in there, and they're real hungry. And the parents keep coming by every couple hours and they feed them and there's a big pile of bird shit all over my goddamn porch. I don't know how old those little baby birds are, but they are shitting like a crippled goose. And so is the mom and daddy that is feeding them. So I got a mess out there. And so speaking of shitting like a crippled goose, Hershey the wonder dog got diarrhea for a couple of days, so she was sitting like a crippled goose. So she would go out about three or four times at the doggie door. So Kristen left the light on for her. Well, when you leave the light on out here in South Texas after a rain, after a big rain, all the bugs come out. And guess what? Because you're the only motherfucker with a light on, just like Tom Beaudet at the Motel 6. Every goddamn bug in McMullen county is on my front porch. And some of them were still alive and some of them just died. Now, Kristen, here's the question I got for you. Because I was out there for 40 minutes with my shot back out of all the bugs that died on the front porch. What the fuck you figured, kill them?

[Kristen]

They got stuck. They got stuck on the front door with the rain.

[Steve Austin]

They got stuck on the front door. They was kind of built like sticks. They're long, skinny bugs and they fly around because they got wings. And it just died.

[Kristen]

Maybe it's the humidity.

[Steve Austin]

Goddamn, maybe they died of a heat stroke trying to get in my house to get in the air conditioner. Anyway, so I vacuumed up all those fucking bugs and it was hotter than a motherfucker.

[Kristen]

And those parent birds were very upset.

[Steve Austin]

God damn them. I don't know what kind of swallows or whatever kind of bird they are. It ain't a field lark, it ain't a dove. Built a medallion. What am I going to do, you know? Fuck, I can't go out there and, you know, jar the nest up off the light fixture.

[Kristen]

Well, they're so cute. They're so cute.

[Steve Austin]

Well, I know, you know, but like, you know, if I didn't have a heart, I just go, well, fuck, get off my goddamn light fixture and you're shitting all over my por.

[Kristen]

You know, they'll grow up soon enough.

[Steve Austin]

Well, goddamn, I tell you what, I hope them damn parents get them out there and get them to flapping their wings so they can fly away and go fuck someone else's shit up. Speaking of fucking shit up, our air conditioner was fucked up. It was broke. We got over here and when we're not here because we're trying to keep an air conditioning bill, our power bill, real low, we set the thermostat on about 85 degrees. Ain't no reason to cool this place off because ain't nobody here. So anyway, we get over here from Victoria after seeing my baby sister get married. We roll in here and it's about 105. And I'm a damn sissy because I've been living in Los Angeles too long. Used to 65 degree weather. And we walked in, in this goddamn house. We turned air conditioner on. We had to sleep in the other house that night because this fucking air conditioner wouldn't catch up. And I said, well, I think it's just too hot. It'll keep trying and it'll ultimately, you know, start up because it usually does this.

[Kristen]

Well, it was. We got here in the early afternoon, turned it on, it was still 86. By the time it was 11 o' clock at night, it hadn't cooled one single degree.

[Steve Austin]

Well, it got to 85.

[Kristen]

Oh, it did. Okay.

[Steve Austin]

85, 86. That omega shit. Homie don't play that shit. I can't sleep at 85 degree weather. Now I'm sitting here bitching. Like I said, I'm a damn weather system.

[Kristen]

Well, we could. I just felt bad for the dogs.

[Steve Austin]

Well, so anyway, yeah, so I could take it and I. Hell, I was in my sleeping bag with my long johns on. We go over to the house next door and turn that air conditioner on and we sleep like crazy and call air conditioning. People come out and sure enough, they come out. We needed a Freon charge and some other coolant, whatever the fuck you call it. And they did. Ran all kind of diagnostics on it. What's the name of our air conditioning people?

[Kristen]

South Central Air Conditioning.

[Steve Austin]

Hey, South Central Air Conditioning in Jordan, Texas. Thank you guys for coming and helping the brother and sister out. Thanks to you guys, I'm sitting here in my own house, cool as a cucumber. As a matter of fact, Kristen, would you go get me a turtleneck sweater? I'm a little bit cold. God damn. I tell you what. The house. When you ain't got no outside chores to do and you got to work inside, I tell you what. You know, a house can look pretty clean. But when you really get down to it and you got time to kill because you gotta do something, this house was kind of dirty, wasn't it?

[Kristen]

No, it wasn't that dirty.

[Steve Austin]

It wasn't?

[Kristen]

No. I cleaned it the first day we got here.

[Steve Austin]

Yeah, but you wouldn't be vacuuming all the bugs on the outside of the porch. And those ones that got inside, Shit. I got up this morning. Tell them what time I woke up this morning.

[Kristen]

4:30.

[Steve Austin]

4:30 in the morning. My alarm clock didn't go off. I didn't set my alarm clock. For some reason, my eyes just opened up. I'm like, what the fuck? It's 4:30. Maybe I'll go back to sleep. I'm on my damn fitness kick. Got broken skull challenge starting up in a damn month. It's not like I can make a Bloody Mary and go back to sleep. So I was sitting there. I was just sitting there. Okay, maybe I can go back to sleep. I couldn't do it. So I Got up, drank my two cups of coffee and went outside and started working out at 5:30 in the morning. 5:30 in the morning? I'm out there working out. Kristen. Now, what's. What's wrong with this picture? I'll tell you what's wrong with it, Homie don't work out at 5:30 in the morning. We want to still be in bed.

[Kristen]

Yeah, but you have to out here because it's too hot.

[Steve Austin]

You ain't. And here's the thing, God damn it. I had my lights on. Had my neon lights there in my gym. And I was going to open the garage to roll up doors, but because that light's on, all those fucking bugs that weren't dead at the front door wanted to come into the pavilion, so I had to shut those doors. I was in there sweating like a son of a bitch, trying to get my swell on, trying to make a comeback from his rotator cuff surgery. I'm gonna get part two of my workout in this evening, and that's gonna be hotter than fuck. I'm in two days, Kristen. I'm making a comeback.

[Kristen]

You are. You've done really well.

[Steve Austin]

I'll tell you what, man. Ain't nothing like this weather. I'll tell you what, I'll be happy when the Broken Skull Challenge starts, because we'll be filming right there in August. It'll be hotter than fuck. We'll be on a mountain in a desert, and I'll be the coolest son of a bitch out there. Because when you come out here to Broken Skull Challenge to do, you get in shape, you get tough routine. Ain't nothing they can throw at me that I can't handle. My joe like a motherfucker.

[Kristen]

You gonna run the school buster this year?

[Steve Austin]

I whipped that skull Buster's ass. Ain't nothing but a thing. Like a chicken wing on a shoestring. I had one more story I was.

[Kristen]

Gonna fly on your face.

[Steve Austin]

Oh, man. We was at the damn wedding the other day, watching my baby sister get married. And I took a picture with my brother Kevin. My baby brother, he's 10 months younger than me. He was drinking a beer, and I was drinking a Broken Skull Ranch margarita. And this was a quadruple shot. Normally, I make a triple shot, but I quadruple shot because they weren't serving no alcohol at that wedding. And so after the wedding, me and Kristen ran home, let the dogs go to the bathroom, checked on Hershey. I made myself a margarita. My baby girl drove back to the church to go to the reception and we took a picture out in the parking lot. And I posted on my Twitter account.

[Kristen]

Steve Austin, you forgot how you got lost to the church.

[Steve Austin]

Well, that's a whole other story for a whole other day. I'm trying to give my wife directions. I'm supposed to be going to the Baptist church. And I.

[Bill Burr]

And they said, I'm like, you grew.

[Kristen]

Up in this town and you're asking me for directions?

[Steve Austin]

God damn. I mean, I've been gone for 40 years and I didn't know that the Baptist church is right next to the Methodist church, which is next to the Lutheran church. Pentecostal Church was next to the Lutheran church. I mean, son of a bitch, there's so many churches there, I didn't know where to. Shit, I wanted my watch. Heaven forbid someone give me a street address on a building, you know, that's all they had to do. And so, because the wedding and the reception was at two different places. Anyway, back to the story. I'm taking a picture to.

[Kristen]

It's picture, not picture.

[Steve Austin]

So I'm taking a picture to always remember this time with my brother. And we took the picture, and then I started looking at the picture, and I then noticed that there was a fly on the left side of my face.

[Kristen]

You got photobombed by a fly?

[Steve Austin]

I got photobombed by a goddamn house fly. Here's the thing about it. I put on my Twitter account and I saw the fly there, but I said what? It was the best picture I took. I could have used two or three of the other pictures we took, but none of them looked as good as that picture, the one with the fly on my face. So, you know when you took four shitty pictures, and the best one is the fly on your face, and you post that one, you didn't take very many good pictures. And I knew I was gonna cut a promo on the fly for fucking up my goddamn picture.

[Kristen]

It's probably the same fly from Mexico, you know?

[Steve Austin]

You know what? It can't be, because I don't think he lived that long, but it damn sure had to be related to him.

[Kristen]

Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

So I'm gonna tell you something. Here's the thing. I've been having problems with flies ever since I did that podcast down in Mexico about two, three years ago.

[Kristen]

They're haunting you, they are haunting me.

[Steve Austin]

And they're just a thorn in my side. And I'm just trying to live the life of a normal man, to go hunting, go fishing, raise a couple pups, be married to his wife and work, pay my Bills, live an American dream. I'm taking a picture with my brother Kevin, and a fly lands right in the goddamn left side of my face. And here's the thing, Kristen. If the fly would have just landed on my face and a picture of me, no big deal, he just landed on me. But when he landed on my face and my baby brother's in the picture, well, when people look at my Twitter account and then they see my baby brother in that same picture, well, then they gonna laugh at him because his older brother that he looks up to and respects, has a goddamn fly on his face. So, fly, if you're gonna land on my face, that's one thing. But when you land on my face and my baby brothers in the picture, you brought family into the equation. And when you did that, you done made it personal. So it's like the legendary Beaufort T. Justice told Junior, put the evidence in the car. I ain't got to put no evidence in the car. The evidence is on that picture, on my Twitter account of that fly landed on my face. So now when my brother goes to work, he gonna walk in the coffee room, clock in, and everybody gonna start laughing at him and say, hey, your brother so goddamn stupid, got a fly on his face. What the fuck's wrong with you Williams people? So when you cause that kind of problem, it means that you've only expediated the fact that I'm gonna get my revenge on your motherfucking ass. I walked in the other day, I was about to grab my shotgun out of safe. My wife said, steve, you want me to make a tuna casserole and some mashed potatoes? And I said, no, baby. I said, give me a Diablo sandwich and a Dr. Pepper, I'm in a goddamn horror.

[Kristen]

People probably don't even know where that quote's from, Steve.

[Steve Austin]

That's from smoking a bandage.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

So I don't know why. And here's the thing, Rambo, they drew first blood, not me. They drew first blood. Mr. Fly. This is the last time I'm telling you, anytime, anywhere in the world, you want to settle a score one on one with stone cold Steve Austin, all you got to. No, no, no, no, no. Let me take that back. There's a promoter in Stamford, Connecticut, name of Vince McMahon. He got a show going on in Orlando in about nine or 10 months. It's called WrestleMania 33. If you want a piece of me, if you want to insult my family, if you want to embarrass my baby brother, I got to have my revenge. So if you Got any guts, you'll fly your ass down to Orlando, no pun intended. And you will do battle with Steve Austin in a Texas death match. And we will settle this score. You will never. You will never, ever embarrass my family again. Because my brother got the clock in at work every day. And then someone's gonna take a picture and put in a copy machine and hang it by the clock and laugh at my baby brother. And you gonna cause him hard times. And so if you're gonna put my brother through the hard time blues, then that means I got an ass whooping with your name on it. And that's the bottom line. Cause Stone Cold said so. You sorry low life piece of shit motherfucker. Kristen, are you ready to wrap up the open of this show so I can get my reeds in and then I can get back to pushing my vacuum clean around and getting the Windex and cleaning the windows and the mirrors?

[Kristen]

Now, I wish I could have filmed that.

[Steve Austin]

You know, when I go into the. The promo mode, I'm sitting there, I got jugular veins popping up.

[Kristen]

Yeah, I'm starting to get worried about it.

[Steve Austin]

Yeah, I thought my damn top of my head was gonna blow off Chris. And that fly embarrassed the fuck out of me. Landed on my face. I couldn't feel him. Should I had a goddamn quadruple shot margarita, his whole family could have landed on my face. And here's the thing. It wasn't that the fly just landed on my face. That fly was probably out in the goddamn pasture walking across the cow patty. People say, what's. What's a cow patty? Is that like a hamburger patty? No, that's a pile of cow shit. Hell, it could have been a piece of dog laying out there in the front yard, cresting, hitting all the germs on my face by proxy. He rubbed a cow turd on my face. That's what landed on me.

[Kristen]

That's what they do.

[Steve Austin]

Yeah, that's what they do. And flies are smart. So if the flies so damn smart, you won't embarrass my damn baby brother. Meet me in Orlando. It won't be about April. May, give or take. Next year, I will be in shape for you, Ash. We going to drug test you. But you show up, and I will beat the flying fuck out of you.

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[Bill Burr]

Steve Austin unleashed.

[Adam Carolla]

Unleashed.

[Steve Austin]

You talked about earlier about putting worth on yourself because when you first start out, you made $5 for gas money. I was making 15 to $20 and making 400 mile round trips when I was living in Tennessee, when I went down there to the uswa. So I'm not asking for dollar signs, I don't want to know anything. Now how did you start? You know, you come out to la, you don't make it, you go back to New York, you write your ass off, you get some gigs. Things are starting to spin up. I always tell all the guys to get in the business of pro wrestling, you've got to learn the business part of the business, not just the stuff in the ring. Oh yeah, absolutely, that's the ring, that's the entertainment part of it. That comes the business aspect of it. So as a comedian, dude, all of a sudden you get into some demand, you hit a lull, you get, come on. Because you get a break from Opie and Anthony and Jim Norton, the HBO thing, how do you determine, hey, this is what it's going to cost you.

[Bill Burr]

You get a good agent, you can't negotiate your own thing. You got to get a good agent. And what I did is I got with a guy who was, he was like me. We started working together in like 2001. Mike Berkowitz. And he was trying to make a name for himself and I was trying to make a name and we were right at the exact same like place. And as I've gone up, you know, the stand up ladder, he's gone up the agent ladder now. He's, he's like, you know, I think as far as like being an, he's past me as far as being an agent, I mean like the client list that he has is incredible. And we always laugh. He used to book me Anywhere he could book me. The Skyline Cap Cafe in Appleton, Wisconsin. It was a great gig, by the way. You know, I was working. Occasionally working a funny bone back then, because, you know, I think those guys always thought I was funny, but I couldn't sell tickets. And it's just like, you know, and, you know, there was those periods we start thinking, do I need a catchphrase?

[Steve Austin]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

Do I, you know, do I go on tour with, like, five other redheads and do the redhead tour? I mean, what do I need a hook? I got to get something. And, you know, it all works out if you. If you just. If you just do. Do what you're supposed to do and you do the work, it. It's definitely a longer road than it is if you have a hook. But, you know, a lot of times those people that have the hook, once people are over it and there's nothing else beyond it. Yeah, you know, you go back down. Which is why I love watching you guys. Because you guys, you would say, the Rock had these hooks, but you guys kept writing and you just kept coming up with more and more shit, and you'd switch it up and everything. And then. Then you become, like, prolific. Then to me, it's like the Chappelle thing. I could see Chappelle this month, and I could go see him in October, and I would see, you know, the show would change so much. Like, he's just. He just. It's like, you're just going to see Chappelle. It's like almost like beyond stand up at this point.

[Steve Austin]

Right. It's funny. When I came to New York and, like I said, I've been in business seven and a half years, I was full of pissed vinegar. I was laying my shit in. It didn't have a gimmick. And to get this before Stone Cold and the agents back in. Blackjack, Lanza, George, Animal Steel, Sergeant Slaughter.

[Bill Burr]

Georgia Steel was the best. He scared the shit out of me when I was a kid. I was so afraid of him. He had that green tongue. And he'd eat the turnbuckle.

[Steve Austin]

The hairy back.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, the hairy back was unreal.

[Steve Austin]

But those guys, they would tell me, they'd watch me work in a ring. When I came in, they brought in a bunch of other guys who they saw as superstars, and they were pushing these guys, and those agents noticed me and they said, steve, keep doing what you're doing, because you're not a gimmick. It's going to take you longer to get over. But when you get over, you're going to stay over.

[Bill Burr]

Dave Chappelle said the exact same thing to me at the Comedy, at the Comedy Cellar. He said, listen, he goes, it's going to take you longer, but when you hit, you got to hit hard. Just keep doing what you're doing. And I didn't even know what he meant, but I just was like, wow, this, this genius just, you know, said that I had a shot. But like, yeah, because yeah, if you're not the hot chick in my business, if you're not the hot chick, you're not the fat guy. If, you know, for a while it was the hipster with the, with the big bushy beard and the hoodie, you know, and you were 34 and acted like you, you had, you know, the social graces of like a 15 year old. Like they were into that for a while and, you know, being a balding redhead was never in. So I had to go the long way around. But it was better because I don't think I could, I couldn't handle like, you know, I've seen some guys, like, they truly funny guys that just from like day one are like ready, right? Like Dane was ready. Kevin Hart, Kevin Hart was ready. I mean, like, just watching those, the way that they were able to like me, I had to go like baby steps and then I'd be like, oh my God, Chris Rock just walked in the club and I was like, oh, shit. I almost hope, I hope he doesn't watch me, right. I don't want him to see me do stand up and then, oh my God, I have to go on after him or, you know, or whoever, whoever was coming at the club at the time. Damon Wayans would pop in a lot back then and. But he was a guy that like, you know, Kevin Hart was just like, he wanted to go on in front of me, walk right up and say hello. Just really confident guy. Like, he really has like that. Out of all of the guys that I met, Kevin Hart has the most amazing like, like his energy is just. He's funny as hell. You want to be around him and he's just like, it's just always positive, always positive, always positive. Like, and he was one of those guys like you could have been the worst manager in the world. You're like, this guy's gonna be, he's gonna be huge. Even then, I didn't know he's gonna sell it. He sold out the football stadium where the Eagles play.

[Steve Austin]

How did you go about developing your style? Because in wrestling business I keep making these parallels because there's some more I want to make if I'm not boring the fuck out of you, you. But when you start out, when you're green in the wrestling business, the worst thing you can do and. And what everybody is guilty of is rushing, going too fast, you know, oh God, slow the down.

[Bill Burr]

You know, you might have all the.

[Steve Austin]

Same seven minute set and all of a sudden, like you said on your first gig, you finish in three minutes.

[Bill Burr]

Absolutely.

[Steve Austin]

God damn you jerk.

[Bill Burr]

I used to do 10 minute sweats on a sets. I just said sweat, 10 minute sets. And I would come off stage sweating like I was James Brown or something. I was just nervous and I certainly wasn't doing anything James does. I was just up there talking and I would, I would just. I was so, like, I was just so nervous. I just didn't want to bomb. I didn't want to go through. It was. It was really when I moved to New York and like when I lived in Boston, Boston's really, you know, back then it was really segregated and everything. So, you know, I started my career. The first three and a half years of my career was performing in front of drunk people from Massachusetts. White drunks from Massachusetts, which is what I was. I was a white drunk from Massachusetts. So it was easy. I mean, it wasn't easy because I didn't know what I was doing, but I didn't have to be like, oh, are they gonna understand my perspective? And then when you move to New York, which is why I really think that you have to put your time in New York, you go up in front of everybody and all of a sudden it's black, white, Puerto Rican, Jewish, like super fucking born into money, you know, just got out of jail. You know, you have like, like it was just everybody. And I just remember going on stage and being nervous. So I came on on my heels and I instantly would start bombing. And what I learned to do was you had to be not aggressive, as in going at them, but you had to be confident. And it took me a long time to get that down, but I just kept going and going. Like, I was so afraid of like black crowds initially that I just started doing the rooms, the black rooms. I just started. Plus, I also knew I had material that I thought could. I wanted to make sure I was saying it right as, you know, as white as I am. If you're gonna talk about it, you had to make sure you say it the right because. And what I do now, now I know, I know when I'm saying it in the wrong way. In front of a white crowd is. You get like. Like whenever I get that injury. Yeah. Whoa. When I hear that shit, I go, oh, I'm not saying it like that. I'm not saying it like that. I'm trying to keep this. You know, I'm being. I'm joking around. I'm being silly here. So there is that thing. And I wish. I wish shows in general. I wish TV shows were more. I don't know how you would do it, but just appealed to more people so that you're. You could build. Do an audience like that. So. Because the longest time I did the Apollo, I would do BET and then I would do Comedy Central, and I always wanted to draw a mixed crowd, but, you know, as you move up in this business, I mean, the wider it becomes in this weird way. I got you. I even, like, conscious of it, and it's just. It's a very, like. It's. It's a very hard thing to try to Try to navigate, like, to try to try to pull the crowd that you're trying to pull. I mean, I love everybody that shows up to my crowds, but I like. To me, I still love New York because what I loved was everybody was there. And when everybody's in the room, then you can really joke around because it is that social thing where it's like, obviously he's fucking around the person he's making fun of. That group is sitting right there. You can interact with them, but, like, if it's all white people, it starts to feel like a meeting. You know what I mean? And people can.

[Steve Austin]

You know.

[Bill Burr]

You know, people, they get.

[Steve Austin]

The thing is, for us, like, when you work the Garden in New York, like, if you could get over in the Garden, you can get over in front of anybody or in any crowd, just because the diverse mix.

[Bill Burr]

How sick is it? Looking up and seeing that it's the roof, to me, is the iconic thing, because to me, that was Led Zeppelin song Remains the Same. And you just look up and you're like, how the am I standing here right now?

[Steve Austin]

I never really. I never really thought about, like, that. Yeah, I got knocked out in the Garden one time, and I was looking up at the ceiling and I didn't know where I was. And the referee or I was working with the undertaker. My fans have heard me tell these stories too many times. He was going to give me a backdrop, and I kicked him in the chest, and he straightened up, and when he did, the back of his head hit me right in the chin uppercut. I'd never been knocked out in my life up until that point. And I'm laying in the middle of the ring of Madison Square Garden, looking up at the damn ceiling, and Earl Hebner, same referee, looks down at me and goes, God damn, boy. You all right? I looked up at him, I said, where am I? He goes, God damn it, boy. You in the Garden. So I finished the match. I didn't know what the fuck happened, but I finished the match. When I go back and look at some old cable guy stuff. He came out when he first started as a comedian with a straight, regular accent, when he created the cable guy with the country accent, that's when he got over. Were you always the same with your approach to how you deliver your material? Because you get this great voice, you can just ramp up and get that high pitch. When you're. When you go off on a rant and you start just going off on something, it's almost like you're just freewheeling out there. Was that always your style?

[Bill Burr]

No, I was. For. When I first started working, I was clean. I just. I wrote everything out, I memorized. And everybody was just like, dude, you're gonna be on tv. Like, I. You know, like, I looked like. You know, like I should have been like one of those little kids in the back of a station wagon and like, a Chevrolet commercial. You know, baseball, hot dogs, apple pie, and Chevrolet. I look like the all American kid. I mean, I was, like, 23 years old, and I had a baby face, and. And I was working totally clean. And I did that because I wanted to make sure I knew how to write a joke. And then it became, you know, about a couple years of working totally clean. It was then, like, this isn't who I am. I don't talk like this. I'm a angry man. I didn't realize how angry I was until it was my 30s. I started to realize when after, like, the sixth girlfriend broke up with me, who was telling me all my faults, and I'm like, well, this seems to be reoccurring shit here. I guess I need to work on myself. But it just. It's just gradually. It just gradually. I mean, I'm not the same person I was when I was 23 either. So, like, I. I was a people pleaser when I was 23. And then there's. Somewhere along, you know, your 30s, you realize like, yeah, this is stupid. Yeah, when you're a people pleaser, you attract assholes because only nice guys put up with their shit. Then all of a sudden, you Know you got a bunch of assholes in your life. So it was a combination of on and off stage, me just becoming just more myself and not giving a shit in a good way. Not a rude, arrogant way. Just like, hey, this is who I am. This is what I like. This is what I do. If you like it, cool. If you don't, I understand. I'm not going to bore you with it. And when you, when you, yeah, when you get to that thing, then just when you're really being yourself, then people who relate to you gravitate towards you and hopefully it's enough to fill up a room or you're going to have to go back to your day job.

[Steve Austin]

So one last thing on that line. I got some other stuff I want to ask you about, but I always figured kind of that's what I did. I just kind of turned me up to a high level.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

Personal time. But I mean, it's basically.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah, we'd get, it would get obnoxious.

[Steve Austin]

Yes. Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

Walking around your house body slamming people. They wouldn't want to hang out with you.

[Steve Austin]

You know, I, I, you know, I would cuss a lot. I started cussing on tv, but I use your, your basic big four cuss words that wouldn't get you tossed off. Yeah, I'm not dropping F bombs and stuff like that. I started doing middle fingers.

[Bill Burr]

I love that you drink the beer shaking the finger. That was the greatest thing ever.

[Steve Austin]

I mean, it was just, it just me, me turned up.

[Bill Burr]

But I think people loved that because everyone wanted to do that to their boss. Everyone wanted to come in with the beer, suck down three quarters of it, throw the rest in his face and give the guy the finger and tell him to go F himself.

[Steve Austin]

But my point is, I was willing to go out on a limb and push envelope, and had I not, I never would have made it. But sometimes, like when I watch your stuff, your stuff is so cutting edge. With the political correct world that we live in, you really push the envelope and you're able to get away with it just because sometimes it's like what you said, hey, not that way or, you know, you'll say something, it'll get uncomfortable.

[Bill Burr]

But you know what it is, though?

[Steve Austin]

What is it?

[Bill Burr]

That whole political correctness thing is it's just lazy journalism. It's just an easy, like, you know, like, you know, they'll talk about, I've been doing a bit, my act, how they talked about, you know, transgendered bathrooms. They're not going to talk about, like, you know, the oceans Dying. There's too many people on the planet, our food is genetically altered. They're not going to talk about like that stuff would send everybody into like a depression, you know, that's we're doomed type of shit. So you keep it light. Oh, look at this. Donald Trump doesn't care that Caitlyn Jenner pees in his building. And then like comedians getting in trouble, you can literally genetically alter the food. And no, they're not going to talk about it. But if you do a wage gap joke in a strip mall, you could literally get on like, you know, national news if it goes back and forth and it's in. And most people, they're just tuning in to watch because it's fun to watch somebody get in trouble. But, you know, I still believe people, they're adults, they go to a show, they know you're joking around, you know, and if you make fun of Caitlyn Jenner or you make fun of this or you make fun of that, like you don't hate these people, you don't believe this stuff. It's a joke joke.

[Steve Austin]

Right.

[Bill Burr]

But it's one of those deals where you'll be in front of whatever thousand people, 999 had a great time, right. Night after night after night. Right? And then one person doesn't like it. They go on a blog and all of a sudden they act like the sky's falling and it's just a, you know, it's just, it's just, it's a complete non story. There is political correctness, but it isn't something that, like in comedy clubs, like every night, like there's like all of a sudden everybody got all uptight. Like, you go to a comedy club, people want you to go off, they want you to say crazy shit and they know that you're joking and that's why everybody's laughing. If they actually thought you were serious, they wouldn't be laughing. Like, people get it, they get that, you know, I mean, do you got to put on a fucking clown nose? I mean, they know what they're doing. But there's always going to be like that selfish audience member who lets 800 subjects go by and laughs at all of them. And then when it comes around to them, then all of a sudden, you know, you're not telling jokes, you're making statements and they're offended and oh my God, they, they're owed an apology. Like they're a little country.

[Steve Austin]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

You know, and you offended them and now there's no more trade and Stuff, it's like just, well then go home.

[Steve Austin]

Yeah, still, it's great. Let me shift gears on you if you don't mind. You're a licensed helicopter pilot?

[Bill Burr]

Yes, I am.

[Steve Austin]

Dude, here's the thing.

[Bill Burr]

I haven't flown in a minute. I've been in that floor writers room working on the next season after Family.

[Steve Austin]

Yeah, I've been wanting to learn how to fly a helicopter for a long time. I was starting off with an airplane, but I was like, man, where am I gonna go on airplane and kind of just fly?

[Bill Burr]

I got the school, I know where to go. I know the guys you should fly with.

[Steve Austin]

Here's my question.

[Bill Burr]

Love it.

[Steve Austin]

I hear my question.

[Bill Burr]

They'd love to teach.

[Steve Austin]

I want you to go off on this one because every time I. I fly my ranch in South Texas every year just to do a deer count for the survey. So I was badass pilot and it's.

[Bill Burr]

The most manliest I'm here all day, especially out in la.

[Steve Austin]

Oh yeah.

[Bill Burr]

I fly to over my ranch to do a deer count. Have you ever tried to have a barbecue out here? Everybody shows up on their LA diets. You end up with like 500 pounds of hamburger. Who's gonna eat this? Oh, I already ate. You got any Brussels sprouts?

[Steve Austin]

So work with me on this one. So the helicopter pilot, hey man, you know he teaches people how to fly as well. I said, man, how hard is it to learn how to fly helicopter? You think I can learn? I've asked that to about 10 people. Now. Most of these people probably only know me for 10 to 15, 20 minutes or see me on TV. So what the fuck they know? They think probably I'm still drunk, I'm pissed off, I'm going to hit them in the head with the steel chair. Or I've been hitting head with too many myself, I have brain damage. Well, how the fuck would this guy learn how to fly a helicopter? So is it hard to fly a helicopter? You're probably a lot more intellectual than I am.

[Bill Burr]

No, work with me. It's what the, the thing I was intimidated by was the ground school and learning all the. Like I had a horrible science background. I mean, I didn't even, you know, up until five years ago, I didn't understand how planes flew. I understood how they got off the ground. Like I can run across the room and jump in the air, but eventually I come back down. The plane weighs way more than me. How the fuck is that thing staying up there with all the people in the luggage, Right? But that Was that was probably the best part about it, is learning all the. The whole physics of it. And now I completely understand it. And that's what's the great thing. It's not like you go there, like, how they teach you how to drive a car. Like, they teach how to drive a car, but you just get in it and they just show you, okay, this goes this way. This makes it go, this makes it stop. They teach you the physics of why what's happening is happening. And then of course, all the rules and all of that type of stuff. And, like, there's so much stuff you have to know. And that's what was intimidating to me. But, like, you just, you know, if you went full time, you could get it in like two and a half months. Me, it took a year with all the stuff, you know, I'm too busy telling shit jokes to go full time. But, like, at my school, there was a bunch of kids from China because they just freed up the airspace over there and they just let people go up and they had like six midair collisions in like, fucking three days. So they're like, maybe we should teach people how to fly first. So they. These kids were coming over here and Chinese speaking, okay, they could speak a little bit of English, some better than the others, and they learned how to do it. So I used to get inspired by them thinking, could I go to China and learn how to fly a helicopter? Is this guy speaking Chinese to me? And I have a couple of words that I get, like. And they were able to do it. So that's the hardest part. But actually learning how to do it is the biggest things. Once you learn how to hold a hover is. That's the big thing once you learn how to hold a hover. But you. You wouldn't fly in the 22. You're too big a guy. They put. Probably put you in the 44, which will cost you more money. But it's a nice one. It's much nicer.

[Steve Austin]

But we fly on the 44.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

What's the gimmick with the feet in the joystick?

[Bill Burr]

I mean, all right, so you get. You got. You got three things. You got. You got what looks like your emergency brake. Okay? That's your collective. That's just your power. It's it. That makes you go up and down, basically. Okay, okay, the thing in the middle there, you. The old joystick there, that's how you steer. And then you. What you. The feet is for. That's just for. If you're in a hover if you wanted to turn to the left, you could just stay in the hover and just. Left pedal, you go to left. Right pedal, you go to the right. And then when you're flying, you just use yourself to keep it in trim, which is basically. You're looking at your trim strings and you want them to be going straight down. So you're. You're getting the optimal amount of lift for the power that you're pulling. You know, you're staying true to the way you're going. Jesus Christ.

[Steve Austin]

But no, no, it's interesting because you're sitting there explaining this to me. I can see exactly what you're talking about by looking at your eyes and your hands.

[Bill Burr]

A lot of people think that, like, when you step on the pedals, that speeds up and slows down your tail rotor. It doesn't. It never speeds up or slows down. You're just changing the angle of attack, which is basically more bite or less bite. So if, if you. Depending on which side it's on, this is when it's gonna get all technical geek stuff. All the tail rotor is doing is it's compensating for the torque that the main road.

[Steve Austin]

That's why. That's my big question. Because I'm scared I'm gonna back off that motherfucker and start spinning a helicopter.

[Bill Burr]

Because everybody saw Rambo and they go, oh, my God. If the tail. Rear tail rotor goes, you just start spinning, which is what happened. What you do is there's also a throttle on your. Your collective. Your emergency brake thing. And what you do is you basically, you roll it down. And when you roll it down, it's basically putting a car in neutral. So now the engines, the torque of the engine is not turning the main rotor. What's turning it now is you. You falling. So when you. If you have a. If you have a. If you have engine failure, I used to think that. That you're fucked. Like a plane, you can keep gliding.

[Steve Austin]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

What they do is called an auto rotation. If you saw the rock movie, he goes, we have to auto rotate. Which is the funniest shit ever, because no one would ever say that if you have to auto rotate, you don't say, we have to auto rotate. You just go, shit.

[Steve Austin]

Fuck.

[Bill Burr]

That's what you do. You don't start explaining it to the passengers. But that's just. In my business, that's called pipe. You lay in pipe. You're explaining. Well, actually, no, it's not really. You're just over. That's just a character Explaining what the fuck they're doing. So when you're flying, right, when everything's going well, mechanically, it's all working, you're drawing air into the main rotor. That's called induced air flow. When shit hits the fan and you have to auto rotate what's. Now the air is going. What's keeping the main rotor turning is. Is the air going, flowing up through it. So basically it's your forward speed and the weight of the ship falling. And you can, especially in the 44, that you're going to fly, you can glide for a long, long way. And what you do is as you. You pick out your spot. And what's great about a helicopter is there's all these soccer, baseball fields, all of that shit. And is when you come down to your flare, which my instructor showed me is like a hockey stop, you just, you just stop and just like that in the air, right? You get like 10ft off the ground. You just, you know, you come back on the stick and you flare out like that. This is probably. People don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. The big thing is you don't want to go back up again, right? Because then you're going to slam down like fucking Hulk Hogan. You can be 3 inches shorter. What you want to do is stop like that and then level your ship. And then as you fall, right before you fall, you pull the emergency brake. It's your last bit of energy, dude. You can land like a daisy. Like these guys get it down. Like, they had me one time, they stop. They had me stop in midair in a hover and then just cut the engine on me, all right? And then wanted me to turn it around and go land someplace else. And they basically show you how to do that is what you have to do is you just let yourself fall. You get your RPMs back up to where they want to be. You don't want to overspeed the main rotor. And then you just catch them as they're coming up. This all seems. It took four forever. But like, I always go down whenever I fly with these guys. I always like every six weeks I have the guy take me through all this. Like, let's do a 180 auto. Let's do a straight in auto, let's do. You know, I'm way up in the air settling with power. We do all of this, all of these emergency running landings, all of that. So then I feel comfortable to go fly by myself, as I call it, which, and I'll tell you the scariest thing I've ever done was that. That is, without a doubt, these scares. The first time, where'd you take off.

[Steve Austin]

And where'd you go to?

[Bill Burr]

I went Long beach to El Monte. That was the first one. That's kind of a straight shot. You just go up to 605 and you come back and that's like a 45 minute one. That was freaky enough. But then the next time is, it's called a cross country flight. It's basically anytime you fly and land, like, I forget how, 25 miles away from airport that you, you get to log. It's weird you get to log a cross country flight. However, if you just fly 20 miles out and don't land and then fly 20 back, it's, it's. You don't get to log it as that. And I don't know, I don't pay attention to that because I just do it for fun. But these guys that, you know, it's all about building up your hours to move, you know, to get qualified for the next job. So we had to fly. You had to put three hours of time. That's how they log it in time rather than miles. It's basically three hours on the Hobbs Meter. And that counts time. So I had to. And I had to land at a controlled airport in an uncontrolled airport. So a controlled airport has a tower. Uncontrolled does not have a tower. So your head's on a swivel and you're freaking out. But that three hours of being in the air, I mean, like, I just kept looking over at the empty seat going like, if this shit goes down, you know, I got to somehow get this fucker on the ground. You know, you're gonna get it on the ground, but am I gonna live? And I just remember when I came back, you know, I fucked up a bunch of things. As you're going to remember, when I was coming back to Long Beach, I'm talking to the tower. I was on the wrong frequency. And I'm just flying and they're not talking to me. I'm just flying towards the airport. I'm saying, what the fuck do I do? And finally I'm thinking I'm going to fly over to Compton and just land and just call them up because they got an airport over there that's an uncontrolled one. I knew where it was. I'm like, if this fucking guy doesn't talk to me, I don't know what I'm doing wrong. But I ain't Running out of gas here, because that was another thing too. You had to remember to get refueled. One of the Chinese guys forgot to fucking do it. And the fuel light comes on. I don't know why, with only five minutes left, it's like, how about 5:15? Give me a chance, right? So the guy finally came. He just said, the helicopter north of the airport, you know, we're on this frequency. And then I put. Came on. I'm like, oh, student pilot, sorry. And I remember just the relief of hearing that tower's voice because you start to know I was feeling like I was home. Come across the field, you're at 500ft, you go around the tower and you landed over at Aeroplex. And I just remember when I set it down, you set it down and then you roll down to like, what is it, like 70 rpms, whatever the hell it is. And then that's. At that point you really can't really lift up anymore. So you're beginning the whole shutdown process. And the greatest feeling ever. You pull the mixture and the engine cuts off. And it was just like. I was like, I can't even explain the mindset that I was in. Like, I remember I put it back, you know, wheeled the thing back and I went in there and one of my instructors used to always break my balls. He just came walking by and he was just making say, how you doing? He kind of did double take look at my face and he knew exactly what I was going through. And he just started laughing. And it wasn't until like, like two lessons later I talked to him. I was like, dude, that is the fucking scaredest I've ever been. And those pilots is going to, much as they are cool as, you know, and just like, you know, they got that pilot energy. They all laugh. They go, yeah, dude, I was so scared, man. I was never scared. Like, they, like, you know, if you're not, if, you know, if you admit that you're scared, they're going to tell you that they were. But I remember, I remember before we. I went to fly that same instructor. I was so happy I did that. I was just sitting there going over all my charts and all this, making sure I had all the frequencies, you know, making sure that wasn't going to get lost. Can you get lost up there? You know, I get it, yeah. And he goes, he just sat down next to me. This is going to be a visual joke because this won't play. He just sat down next to me and just kind of went. Just rubbed his Hands again, gave me a look like, oh boy, let's see how this fucking guy. And the reality is, what you don't realize is there's no way they're going to sign you off to go do this thing if they think there's even a hint of a chance, right, that you're going to fuck up and you should definitely go do it. It's one of the, it's an incredible privilege to be able to do it. I haven't flown in like two months and I got to get my medical up to date, but I've been writing the second season of Ephes for family, so I'm gonna fly. Coming up this week for the first.

[Steve Austin]

Time, what made you want to learn to fly a helicopter? Of all the things that you could pick out, why?

[Bill Burr]

It was just something. I always thought they were cool. I used to watch Magnum PI and just thought, wouldn't it be fucking cool if you could just, you know, buzz around an island in one of those. And I've also always done shit the hard way. Like I guess like learning how to fly a plane is, is easier than a helicopter. But you know, no disrespect to those guys, I'm sure that once you get to the jet level, I mean, I'm just flying these little rinky dink things, but like, I just, I just thought it was fucking cool. I always just thought a helicopter is cool. You know what's cool about a plane? A jet. A jet is fucking cool. Being able to just like, like those guys just flying. I talked to this guy, you know, he had his pilot's license and he was just talking about the first time he learned how to fly this jet. He goes, we went so fucking high up because I'm literally looking at the curvature of the earth. And he, you know, done fixed wind, like prop and had these little ass wings. And he said somehow the design of it that you, the second you took off, you were already at like a critical fuel level and shit. And it's just like it. Just listening to him talking about that, like I have a fear of heights. Like when, when I'm not in a plane or a helicopter, like I can't watch those YouTube videos where people climb those structures and you're like, well, this guy has on a GoPro. He obviously didn't fall and die, so. Or else this camera wouldn't. Footage wouldn't exist. But I get like this, there's a couple of those where they just keep going up and up and up like the guys are going to Change the fucking light bulb at the top. And then these, these thrill seeker guys will. They'll just be like doing like pull ups with no parachute or anything. And dude, like, I've never had nervousness when my hands get sweaty. But that's. That's the only shit that'll make it do that. And to this day, like anytime, like I've only flown solo probably. I got like 15 hours solo at this point. Like, I'm just so busy. That's why I always go back and do the emergency stuff. But like every time I fly solo, there's just. Just this amazing feeling of it's the coolest thing ever. It's such a free thing. And then terror of like, you know, and the terror is a good thing. You gotta have that. It's like that thing like, you know, if you walk out to perform, you're like, yeah, you know these fucking people. You're gonna be in trouble. It's the same thing with that. And like, dude, I just fly over stadiums. I fly over the Rose bowl and shit. I fly over famous movie houses. Like there's the house from the Horsehead scene, the Godfather house with the ridiculous pools. I fly over that thing and my own house and shit. Like, I just.

[Steve Austin]

I was thinking about taking my helicopter after pilot lessons down there in Laredo. Because in the middle of nowhere. So if I up, I'm just gonna fall in the field. I'm not gonna follow nobody's house or stadium.

[Bill Burr]

Well, that's, that's a good receipt right there. You'd be a good pilot because you're always trying to like limit your. You're trying to. You're trying to increase your such a up.

[Steve Austin]

I'm honest enough. Goddamn. All these still hit all these steel chairs to the head. I'm not the smartest guy in the world. I'm. I'm. Okay.

[Bill Burr]

I would do this if do your training in Texas, but I wouldn't do it this time of year because it's going to be hot as shit. You're trying to. Unless. Unless you get into something that has air conditioning.

[Steve Austin]

The one thing going to last thing about the freighter heights. It's funny because you can put a steel beam right here across this floor, you know. Steel beam. I beam. Let's call it 1012 inches wide.

[Bill Burr]

Right?

[Steve Austin]

And we walk across that thing all day long.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

All of a sudden you put that some bitch. This is called a hundred foot.

[Bill Burr]

Nah, fuck that.

[Steve Austin]

And then when you go try to walk across it, everything changes.

[Bill Burr]

I'd be on all fours Crying as I went across.

[Steve Austin]

But all of a sudden you jack it in the air changes, right?

[Bill Burr]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely it does. But I will tell you the. The. The thrill of doing it versus the fear and all of that. And you always have to have, I feel a healthy sense of fear both in doing stand up and all of that. That I feel. You know, you've just. You just. You know what it is. You just do what they tell you to do. You don't go up there and be an asshole. You don't go up there and think you know shit. You know, you bring people up. You don't. I've never brought anybody up. But like, you don't try to like, show off or anything. It's like you literally have their life in your hands. But like, there's two types of people. I found my limited knowledge. There's the fucking people like me that understand you can die, and then there's these other people that they just. They just did. We had. We had a guy, he just. He got his license in the next fucking day. He rented a 22. He flew over the San Gabriel mountains, which is like fucking 8,000ft. He went up onto the other side and he just started giving. Landed in the yard of one of his relatives and he just started giving people rides. Landed in like a neighborhood. Somebody finally called the cops of like, what the fuck? And then he kind of threw the school under the bus and was like saying, they said it was okay. It's like, we never fucking said that was okay. But like. And there was this weird thing where I was just saying, that guy is out of his mind. But I had a certain level of respect for the balls. Yeah, the fucking balls. The first day you get your license, like, that's what you're gonna do. If I was gonna go on the other side of those fucking things, I would have flown up to 405. You just follow the roads.

[Steve Austin]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

And I would, you know, they got. Where the five cuts through, you got that pass. I would go over. And even then, you know, I get nervous going over the 405 when it goes from the. From Hollywood to the Valley. Like, you really start getting up there and, you know, it's just like one of those things where I don't like. I don't like getting too high because then you start getting into where the fixed wing guys are. And those guys kind of have like a 45 degree angle. They can't see below. And that, that gets a little shady. So I like staying right around, you know, 12001500ft. I just stay in my lane, right. Follow the roads. I always announce where the hell I'm at. Hopefully I'm on the right frequency. I'm such a dope. But, yeah, it's fun. You should definitely do it.

[Steve Austin]

I am. I gotta ask you before. I don't want to take up your whole Saturday. You've been very generous with your time. Hey, man, talk to me about F is for family. I binge watched the first season. Badass show. It's hilarious.

[Kristen]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

What do you see this season?

[Steve Austin]

I talked to you the other day. It's on Netflix. I highly recommend it. I always give people something to listen to on my podcast. I'm gonna recommend they watch this. So I binge watched it. How did you come up with the idea for this thing?

[Bill Burr]

Why?

[Steve Austin]

And how do you pitch something like this? Hit you with a bunch of questions.

[Bill Burr]

All right. It was an idea that came about through telling family stories on stage. And as I went from being the young baby face comic to being the old guy, a whole new generation of kids with a whole new style of parenting came about. And they. Everything got labeled. Bullying, mental abuse, physical abuse, and cruelty to animals. And everything got, like, labeled. So it wasn't that people weren't laughing. They just kind of. I was starting to get a lot of no, oh. Like, they were feeling bad. And I was standing saying, oh, this is funny. This is funny. And it kind of got, like, frustrating because then they would come up to me and be like, oh, yeah, my dad was like that. And so. And so was like that. I was just like, wow. You know, I didn't feel that energy from the crowd. I felt like. Like I grew up in, you know, some crazy household. But I. I knew that these kids could relate to it. And by kids, I mean people in their 20s. So I just kind of got frustrated. So I kind of stopped talking about it. And plus, I was getting older. I didn't still want to be talking about my dad and mom and kids I grew up with. I just felt like I had done all of that, but I still knew that the stories were funny. And I was walking my dog one day. I was like, well, what if I animated him? So initially, the idea was I was gonna. I was gonna write little five minute vignettes like, the Burr family goes to get the Christmas tree. Because it was always like this Norman Rockwell shit. And there'd be like this total dysfunction. Everybody started screaming at each other. And then the end, we're eating a great, you know, Christmas goose, and it's like, you know, the COVID of the Saturday Evening Post. And of course, I never did it. And then I ended up meeting Vince Vaughn while I was working with Steve Byrne, and he's got a production company, Wild West. They brought me in. I met Peter Billingsley, Mike Legnise, Victoria Vaughn, and all of them. And I said, you know, I don't really have an idea. I have this silly idea for a cartoon. And they loved it. And then they introduced me to the great Mike Price from the Simpsons, who's just a monster. Like, he's like the nicest guy ever, but, like, he. Nobody works hard on that guy. He's just amazing. And then that's when it really started to come together. And then we pitched around Hollywood and everybody was, you know, just wasn't biting. And I thought it was over.

[Steve Austin]

And that's what I'm saying.

[Bill Burr]

And then Vince was like, let's go to Netflix. And we went to Netflix and I. And we. Vince went in on the pitch meetings. Like, he's all fucking in. So I think they were looking at me thinking I was gonna do my Louis show, my Marc Maron show. And my whole thought was, I can't do those shows better than those guys are doing them. They're already doing them. And all I'm gonna look is like a third rate fucking Louis or Marc Maron. So I think they looked at me like a cartoon. I don't get this. But then they were also looking like, that's fucking Vince Vaughn sitting there. And then I think that's why we got six. It was a weird number. They're like, all right, we'll give you six. Let's see what you do with that. And then we just brought in all these awesome writers and got all like, I forget who signed on first, but once we got like, Sam Rockwell and then we got Laura Dern and then Justin Long and then also Gary Cole and all Dave Koechner and all these people. Mo Collins from MAD tv, Debbie Darryberry, Haley Reinhardt. It just was crazy. You know, these. These people just signed on to do this stuff. And I always gonna forget people's names. You know, not Phil Henry. I know I'm gonna forget everybody. But anyways, they all signed on and, you know, I'm doing the Seinfeld thing. I'm surrounding myself. People way more talented than myself. They prop me up and carry me across the finish line. So.

[Steve Austin]

So how long does it take to complete an episode, but with an animation?

[Bill Burr]

Yeah, with animation.

[Steve Austin]

Okay, write an episode.

[Bill Burr]

How long you can write an Episode. Well, someone writes the initial draft and everybody beats it up. Take that takes about to write and record about six, seven days, work days. And then, you know, so we started writing last couple days in March. We're up to episode 9 out of 10. So we're gonna have them all recorded here in the next couple weeks. And then what happens is the first thing that comes in is the animatics, which is the rough drawings of it. And then that's when you really just go, like, okay, you know, this guy shouldn't be standing here. This kid shouldn't be here. And, you know, I'm not good at the directorial stuff. Like, this should be a wide. Why is this over his shoulder? Like, the other people handle that stuff, but I just more look like try to keep a reality base to the thing and just make sure the movements are stuff. Some stuff we take advantage of the animation, but we're trying to make it like a real. Like a real thing. Like. One of my favorite parts of the first season was when the older brother Kevin saves Bill from getting beat up from. By the bully. And when Bill thanks him, his older brother punches him in the stomach. And it's just like, that's like. To me, like, that's was. That was like what being a kid was when I was growing up. And dude, you wait till you see this season that we're writing. I. I just saw the animatic for the. The first episode, and there's a scene that we were trying to get animated correctly, and we'd seen it like 20 times, and they finally got it right, dude. And the whole room, as jaded as we are, just bursted out laughing, just dying. I can't. I can't wait. But it's unfortunately not gonna be out again until May of next year. We're trying to hustle here and get it out as soon as we can, but, you know, they had to wait to see how it was gonna do. So hopefully now, you know, they'll have a little more confidence in us and we can start the third season. So people, you know, once a year we can give you 10 episodes. That's what we're hoping rather, this time it's gonna go a little over a year. So apologies to the fans of the show.

[Steve Austin]

So what would. They were obviously impressed with the six. I watched them. I loved about them was shoot, how long was an episode? Is it 30 minutes or just. Right.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah, 25.

[Steve Austin]

With no. Yeah, with no commercials. I mean, it starts and it's over. It's like, goddamn, I'M ready for the next one.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

Because I'm bad about watching tv. If ain't good, I just won't watch it.

[Bill Burr]

Right.

[Steve Austin]

And I like how each episode rolls into the next one.

[Bill Burr]

That was Netflix idea, and I was against that. I'm like, I want to do, like, the Simpsons standalone. They're like, no, serialize it and blah, blah, blah. And then the second we were going to serialize it, it just took the writing to a whole other level. Now you're not just tracking the story, you're tracking it for the whole season. Like, okay, we got to bring this kid from here to here. Her from here to here. You know, it can get away from you. Sometimes you're just sitting there going, like, well, that doesn't make any sense, because he did this in episode two. And you're just sitting there going. But you sit there long enough, you'll get.

[Steve Austin]

I like the way they're connected each other because I love it.

[Bill Burr]

I love it.

[Steve Austin]

So. But I want to ask you about. Not to. Not to belabor the point, but just in the writing room, we talked briefly to set up the podcast, and, man, you sounded like you were under the grind because y' all were trying to crank out these episodes.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

How grueling is it in there in the. In the room with the creative people, y' all hammer saying, are y' all hammering this thing out together? After the person has come, y' all.

[Bill Burr]

Storyline, you sit at a table, and then Mike. Right. Mike Price sits right up front, and we're just pitching on shit. Pitching on shit. And then he kind of. When he repeats it and laughs, the person typing the script, it goes in. So there's all of this. It's a great room. People are funny. And then what happens is you get like, you know, you get tired, and then, you know, someone else comes up with something good. Or you just start making just ridiculous jokes. Or we just go on. You know, we'll go on and just start watching, you know, Ric Flair videos. Or you'll watch like, oh, my God, I remember seeing the worst movie ever. Go get going. YouTube. You just take a mental break, and you got to kind of walk away from it. And then you. You come back and, you know, just keep going and going and going. But fortunately, it's. It's a great room. You know, we work a lot, but we're not there a ridiculous amount of times. A few times. And we start about 10, 10, 30 every day. We go to about 6 or 7. Sometimes you go till 9 occasionally. And. But you Know, we go order pizzas and shit, and we just like, how'd you get.

[Steve Austin]

How did you guys decide on the voices? Was that casting? Was that you?

[Bill Burr]

I mean, yeah, yeah, we have great casting people. And, you know. You know, we had ideas. Sometimes you have the idea what the person's gonna sound like, and somebody comes in and they. They nail it. You're like, bam. That's the guy. Other times, it was like you had an idea and somebody did something totally different. Be like, that's really cool. Let's. Let's get this person. And, you know, my. The biggest thrill I get with the writing is when the performers come in and like. Like, Dave Koechner, we get him something. He plays Bob Pogo, and like, sometimes we just write this crazy shit for him and he can't get through the line. Sam Rockwell, we. He had. He just recorded like, like six or seven episodes, and he's one of the funniest dudes ever. And there was, like, a couple lines that we wrote for his character Vic, that he just was. He couldn't get through him. And he just. That's just his writers. You know, you're just so psyched, like, ah. Like, this guy's been on Broadway, he's been all these movies, and we can make him laugh like that with the shit like, you get. You get like a real, like, charge out of that. And I know Mo Collins. We got her a couple of times at the table. It's just. It's just great. It's like, that's one of the big, like, I love the table reads because that's like. Then what you do is once the script's ready, you know, everybody comes down, you know, all the performance. You sit down, you just literally read it at a table. And there's a crowd there. Most people connected with the show, got money in the show. And then there's just family and friends that come down and watch. And, you know, when it's going great, there's nothing better.

[Steve Austin]

So when all the actors come in for a table read, and then were y' all all read that together to record it, or everybody in a booth that is.

[Bill Burr]

No, no, you're just literally sitting at the table with the script, really? And it's just. You're just acting it out, and there's a whole art to that. And that was another whole thing that I had to learn to slow down. I had to get comfortable. And now, you know, we're doing the ninth one, and we did six last season, so I got about 15 table reads. Under my belt, and now I really look forward to them. I used to kind of have a little bit of performance anxiety because I just felt like, you know, I'm not good at reading out loud and I got slight dyslexia and shit. So I literally, I find if I got to put my finger on the page and just like, be going like that so my eyes won't jump around and switch up words. So I was a little performance anxiety with that. But I've been able to get through that now. I absolutely love them. Like, we got one on Monday. I can't wait.

[Steve Austin]

You know, now you guys all bonded together, it's like a titan.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah, no, it's great. And there's, you know, no ego maniacs or anything. And everybody just, like breaks balls and it's just, you know, stupid jokes that you do. Like, if anytime anybody drops a name. Yeah, like, I'll say, yeah. You know, this weekend I did a Stone Cold's podcast. I'd be like, oh. And they like, clapping. It just makes you let look at you, Mr. Showbiz. And it's just like, just that kind of ball breaking. And then sometimes you just pitch stuff that just, you know, you know, it's not getting in the script, but you just want to make everybody laugh. You know what I mean? It's usually the sickest, most twisted shit ever. And the great thing about a writer's room is that that's. That's the rules. Like, you can't get offended when you're in there, right? That's it.

[Steve Austin]

Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

You just have to go in there and you just. That's it. People gonna trash you. They're gonna trash everything that you believe in because we're all going crazy sitting in this fucking room, trying to. Trying to get it going.

[Steve Austin]

So what's next for you? I know you're going to. You're going to be in the uk. You're going to be in Ireland here, literally a couple of weeks.

[Bill Burr]

Scotland.

[Steve Austin]

How do you schedule your. Your, Your show, your. Your Evans for family? You're doing that. You got what, two more episodes?

[Bill Burr]

Yep.

[Steve Austin]

And then you're going to get out on the road. How many days of the year are you trying to stay busy or do something?

[Bill Burr]

Well, I'm getting. I mean, I'm getting ready to do another special. So, like, you know, so this, you know, I got once, once, you know, we're done with these records, writing and record, then. Then I'm hitting the road pretty hard and I'm just gonna go all out until I Tape the. I tape the. The special, which I believe we're going to be doing in October. We're still trying to work out where we're going to be. Can't say what city yet or anything, but it's going to be awesome. And I already have the idea how I want to shoot it.

[Steve Austin]

Have you started writing it yet?

[Bill Burr]

Oh, yeah, I have, like, you know, I got like 90 minutes material, but, like, I just have to see which ones are gonna be worthy of Can. Can make the cut.

[Steve Austin]

Will you consult with anybody on that final? What's gonna be a hard 60 or.

[Bill Burr]

I'll probably do a little more like an hour 10. My last one's like a little bit. Hour and 15, hour 20. I don't know if I want to do another one. As long as that, like, you know.

[Steve Austin]

You want to keep leaving one or more.

[Bill Burr]

Leave them one or more. Yeah, yeah.

[Steve Austin]

No, but. But my question is, I mean, we used to. We like, say to your wife, hey, what do you think about this? Or will you just say, no, Bill, you're the funny. Some bitch. You're the guy who knows your material.

[Bill Burr]

No, no, I run. I run stuff by my wife all the time. And my wife is hilarious and she always laughs.

[Steve Austin]

I mean.

[Bill Burr]

Oh, yeah, no, because I had a couple things. Like, I had this. This material that, you know, had to do with the boarded landings. Like, I just had my fifth one and, you know, what goes through your head? But in my head, I was always thinking, like, well, it's airplane material. Just the subject alone is kind of considered hacky. But my agents were going like, no, man, but it's some of the funniest. The act out, like, is some of the funniest shit you've written. And then I went down to a club, went down to Flappers, and I saw another comic, and he was doing a bit about an aborted landing. And it was different, but it had the same tent poles going through, the stewardess sitting down, you know, not looking at you, freaking out, and blah, blah, blah, blah. And so I just said, well, there you go. There you go. That's why I'm not putting that in a special. So I will continue to do the bit. I'm gonna do the bit when I'm on the road, but I just won't stick it into my hours. So, like, I have bits of mine, like my getting arrested for drinking and driving and, you know, cop wanted me to pull over, and I kept going, right. I have those stories, but I just feel like those kinds of stories, people have Told. So what I just use those for is when my special comes out and I have no material. I have those that I've never done on a special. So those things kind of hold me up as I'm writing a new thing. And then once I get the new hour together, those old ones just go away. And like, there's. It's almost like, it's just like. It's like leftovers. So I have like leftover bits. So I have enough. I've been doing it long enough that I have like a half hour of leftover shit that I can, you know, I can come up with a half hour of new shit and then have a half hour of my leftover solid shit. And I can mix and match them. You know, here's a couple of new ones. Here's the one that works. Here's another one that works if I need that. And then blah, blah, blah, blah. And that's how I kind of use it to build up the new hour. And that's just shit that I've just learned throughout the years.

[Steve Austin]

But then I guess it's just because you've been doing it so long, it's just what you do. So, I mean, because I'm just sitting there trying to think, you know, I could be a funny guy in a room, but I ain't no stand up. Ain't even close to being a stand up. Never would claim to be. So when you're just sitting down, like, what's your process? Just like, hey, this would be funny. And then you take it to the level that you do.

[Bill Burr]

I mean, I just write the word down. Yeah, I just write a word down. But you guys do the same thing. I remember seeing people saying like, you know, Ric Flair, right? They go, hey, you know, did you have like, writers and, you know, for your rants, blah, blah. He goes, writers. He goes, I came up with half that shit in the, in the car, ride over from the airport. Or sometimes I'll be hanging with my wife. My wife always gives me shit because I don't take Uber. Yeah, I don't. It's just some fucking guy.

[Steve Austin]

I get a cab.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah, I get a cab. Yeah, I don't like the Uber drivers. Like, they, especially out here, they're in show business. Half of them, they got a script, they know who the hell you are, and then they know where you live. Yeah, I don't like that. I like the cab driver. Yeah, hello, my friend. Blah, blah, blah. And then it's over. It's fucking over. So I went on this this riff about it, about how, you know, it was basically like fucking hitchhiking. And then I did this whole serial killer, like, testimonial thing about, you know, how much he loves this job and everything. She was dying, laughing. And I was just like, all right, I'm gonna do that now. That bit, you know, where it's at right now would never be worthy. I wouldn't even do that on like a late night show. Maybe, maybe it's like a late night bit, but it's nowhere near where it's at right now would ever be put into a stand up special even. I don't care how hard it kills. It's just like it's fucking Uber. It's like to me that's like there's certain subjects that are just, it's like, you know, remember that checks Mix party mix. That's what it is. It's like, it's like that level. It's not like Johnny Walker blew up on the top shelf. It's just bullshit you're putting in your mouth now, those things. But what those are great about those things is they get you saying something new, which gets your mind in a new place, which could lead to something new. Like that bit could then elevate up to something that then, you know, you can take the most basic bit and you, depending on what you do with it, you can turn it into something worthy of being on a special whether it gets there or not. We'll see. We'll see what happens when I go up. Just riffing.

[Steve Austin]

I read that you still like to travel.

[Bill Burr]

I love it.

[Steve Austin]

God damn it. Well, it's because you're still doing it, I think. Or maybe just because you love to travel.

[Bill Burr]

Because, man, I, I, I, I like once I get there, I hate going to lax. Oh, yeah. That's why I never get mad when babies cry on the planes. Because I always, I, they, when babies cry on planes, it makes me laugh because I always think, like, that's exactly what I'm thinking right now. Like, if it was socially acceptable for me to break down and just start sobbing, I would. Because I feel exactly how that baby feels right now. I don't, I don't want to do this. I want to go home.

[Steve Austin]

When I was on the road, I always call it those, those 15 years, give or take, zombie years. I mean, like you're, you're a human being.

[Bill Burr]

Oh yeah.

[Steve Austin]

But you're just going, man, and you're, you're doing the things in life. You're coherent and you're making Decisions. But you're in go mode. That's just what you do. When I got out of the business, it took me three years to get out of that and then turn back into a civilian. So, like, now when I travel, it's a real pain in the ass because I don't want to go nowhere. I'm a homebody now. I put up my time on the road, and I'm in a different mode. So I'll go somewhere to do work. I just don't like to travel or go to different spots. I ain't never been to Hawaii. Out of all the places I've been to. My wife just. She's been six times. She wants me to go to Hawaii. I don't want to go to Hawaii.

[Bill Burr]

Go to Hawaii. Yeah, do it.

[Steve Austin]

You're telling me to go Hawaii? My helicopter over. Here's the thing. Airplane. Check it out. If you're sitting there, you're riding in first class, and some dude walks by, or a chick, and they got on a shitload of cologne, of perfume, and it just fucking punches you right in the goddamn mouth. Shit like that irritates the fuck out of me. Or it's the dipshit who's in awareness.

[Bill Burr]

What you spent 15 years to get working your way up to the front of the plane. That's my thing now, is I blow most of my money on travel. Like, the traveling aspect of it. Like, I sat in the back of those for almost 20 years, and I'm like that guy who went to jail for the last time. I'm like, I ain't going back. I go. I fucking sat there. You know what the worst was? Those DC9s where you didn't. You get the window seat and the fucking engine is right there. You know, they had a malfunction one time, and if something flew out of the engine just, like, took somebody's head off, went right into the fuselage.

[Steve Austin]

I remember that.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah. So, like, there's that. Or you get the seat next to the bathroom. Or once I sat next to somebody one time who was so fat. They were like. They were next to me and in front of me at the same time. Dude. Like, I remember he was trying to make himself smaller by crossing his arms, which just. What are these muscles called on the side of your back? His lats fanned out like a dragon's wings. And it was like, literally, like, in front of me. And what killed me was he was dating this chick who was so petite, and she took the window. We took the middle seat. It's just because he. He wanted her to see. Yeah, it's like, will you put the fat over there?

[Steve Austin]

Stick her in the middle, dude.

[Bill Burr]

Her feet almost didn't touch this floor. She was so petite. And I'm just sitting there next to the guy. And I was in the last row seat, didn't recline, all of that. And I just, at this point, like, I. I don't. If I'm flying to San Francisco, I'm just like, put me in the front of the plane. But, Bill, you're going to spend more on the ticket than you're going to make of the gig. I don't give a shit. I don't care.

[Steve Austin]

The thing about it is, man, I'm very frugal with my money. But when you work with Vince, I flew coach my whole fucking life, then finally turned into a top guy in New York. So then when you turn into Stone Cold or Taker, whoever, Hulk flair, once you get first class, you're first class for life. And so when we used to fly on our own dime back to Texas, I'd go cattle car or whatever, trying to save a buck. But, you know, back, you know, when you finally. Because I paid, I'm going back to what you're saying. I paid my dues and you were sitting. One of my biggest pet peeves is not only the cologne of the perfume. I always tell people, just whatever you're spraying on just a con hair less, just one little fucking puff and just put it away. Or the bag slapping you in the head going, right.

[Bill Burr]

My thing is the person's face, foot coming between the. The seats. Like, you. You ought to be able to take a pen and just stab them right in the arch, like.

[Steve Austin]

Or if you're sitting there and the person behind you uses the back of your seat to pull themselves up instead of using their armrest. Oh, yeah, use that. Or here's one big one. I'm okay with chicks wearing sandals, but if it's a dude wearing sandals and I can see his feet, yeah, I don't. I'm not cool with that. I don't want to see a guy.

[Bill Burr]

I got one. There was a guy in the seat right in front of me. He was like one of these guys. He was a big guy. And you know those people where they start to sit down using their muscles, and halfway down it just becomes a free fall. They let themselves go. And this guy goes to sit down and just wham. Dude, the whole seat just came back into my knees. I was just like, dude, what the fuck? And I remember you know, ever since, you know, post 9 11, like you reacting to a chair, hitting your knees, all of a sudden you're a threat, sir. What's it mean? Why are you being hostile? It's like, is that fat fuck just. You know. And then, you know, I'm gonna. The F word starts coming out. The bad guy, he's.

[Steve Austin]

He's irate. There's something wrong.

[Bill Burr]

Sir, are you gonna be okay to fly today? Like that type of shit, I'm just.

[Steve Austin]

Like, yeah, I'm gonna be fine. Shut the fucking door.

[Bill Burr]

No, you know what I did was I. When I went to get up to get the guy back, I used the back of his chair and I did it really quickly so his head would be off. And I let go and it whacked him in the back of his head. But still, that's at least cushion for your head. I still got it the worst.

[Steve Austin]

But see, here's another thing gets me when you're sitting there and there's someone in front of you where they just similar what you just said, but they hit the button and it just automatically recline as fast as they can and as far back as they can. It's like when I'm sitting in front of somebody, I know I've got. I bought the same space. I know I've got that real estate to work with, but because I'm a good motherfucker and I've had all those things jammed to my knees, I'll only come back so far because being considerate, it's etiquette, it's considered empathy. Yeah.

[Bill Burr]

Yeah. People don't have it.

[Steve Austin]

No. Nobody gives a. They don't trying to not infringe on their space.

[Bill Burr]

No. You know, it's too also in the back of the plane, which I couldn't stand. It's like they scientifically designed every possible way that you were going to sit to try and get comfortable, to make sure there was some piece of hard plastic. They even measured. I swear to God, the distance between your armrests and the side of the plane. If you have a window seat, like, oh, I'm just gonna lean my head here, you know, against this. Maybe I can do this. And it's just far enough to make the other side of your neck start to fucking hurt. So you start balling up your hooded sweatshirt. It's just, it's the, it's the, it's, it's. It's the fucking worst. And I don't care how much money it cost me. I'm. I'm not Going back. I'm not going back. I can't do it. No, you can't go back. I spent 20 years in the back of thousands of fucking planes. I'm just not doing it.

[Steve Austin]

I've been there. Hey, man, is there anything else you want to talk about?

[Bill Burr]

I think we covered it.

[Steve Austin]

We did. Thanks for coming over, dude.

[Bill Burr]

It was an absolute thrill to meet you and I got to shake your hand and thank you. The amount of entertainment that you've given me and the laughs. You and all the guys that you work with, you guys are some of the most amazing. Patrice o'. Neill, I wish, you know, I wish he was still around. The way, the way he held. He was. He's the greatest comic that I ever saw. The level that he held you guys in, he was saying, bill, these guys are some of the greatest actors on tv. And I was just, what are you talking about, man? And he literally goes, dude, they got. They're like this big. They're connecting with somebody in the upper deck all the way over there. Just like, like, you know, me and all my friends are such huge fans, you guys. So thank you for everything you've done, all the sacrifices to your body. All right, now I'm done. I'm done.

[Steve Austin]

All right, everybody, give me the go home cues. I'm a wrap up his podcast ride off into the sunset. But before I do, time me to give you guys something to watch. I must say, go check out season one of F is For Family, Bill Burr's comedy series on Netflix. As you heard him say, they got greenlit for a second season, but it won't be out until next year. So go get caught up on season one. F Is For Family Bill is also doing some stand up dates there in the UK the first week of August. I know I got a lot of listeners over there in the uk and I ain't kidding when I tell you, go see Bill Burr do stand up. Dude is funny as fuck. All his dates [e-mail] alright, couple more plugs here. While we're doing plugs, you can find all my T shirt Designs [e-mail] Broken Skull IPA from El Segundo Brewing Company at Whole Foods Total Wine here in California. You want it to ship to your door, go to broken skull ranch.com and find a link. Also, everybody gotta have one. The Steve Austin Broken Skull cold steel pocket knife. One of the baddest goddamn knives you can find. And you need one in your pocket because it's dangerous out there. Hopefully you Only use it to open your letters and your bills, your mail. But every now and then, man got to have a knife. Hey, everything's Steve Austin you can find@brokenscore ranch.com and I appreciate y' all supporting the sponsors of the Steve Austin podcast because they are the ones who let me do this for you free, twice a week, week. So big ups to ddpyoga.com go to ddpyoga.com Austin and get 20% off anything you purchase for a limited time, including the new collector's edition of the Resurrection of Jake the Snake documentary. Big ups to TrueCar and of course to Amazon, who have been supporting this podcast since day one. Just use my Amazon links whenever you're doing any online shopping and Amazon will kick back a couple of bucks to the podcast. We won't cost you nothing extra. Ain't no hidden fees, ain't no hidden charges. You can buy whatever you plan on buying to help out the podcast in the process. And you can find my Amazon links by going to podcast1.com click on the killer Deals button in the top right corner of the page and then hitting the Steve Austin show button. I got Amazon links for Amazon USA, Amazon UK and Amazon Canada. So once again, podcast1.com click the killer deals button in the top right corner, then click on the Steve Austin Show. All my great sponsors there, all my Amazon links are there too. And Amazon will kick back a couple of bucks to the show every time you use one of those links. You ain't got to buy nothing special. Ain't no extra charges, hidden fees. Just buy whatever you plan on buying. Amazon will kick back a small percentage back to the show, help cover our production costs, bookmark it so you can find it easier. Wasn't that some good bullshit? And hey, keep listening. The 62nd AP news headlines are coming up next. Until then, my name is Steve Austin. I'll be pushing a vacuum cleaner, a feather duster, or a shop vac for about the next 24 hours till I go back to California. And until then, I will catch your ass down the road. Download new episodes of Steve Austin Unleashed every [e-mail] that's podcastone.com.