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Steve Austin
The following Program is a podcast ONE.com production from Hollywood, California by way of
Adam Carolla
the Broken Skull Ranch. This is the Steve Austin Show.
Steve Austin (casual commentary)
Give me a Hell yeah. Hell yeah.
Steve Austin
Now here's Steve Austin.
Steve Austin (casual commentary)
All right everybody. Welcome to Steve Austin Show. I am coming to you from the state of Nevada where I'm out here visiting my in laws. Holy smokes. I'm sitting here cutting open to this podcast and right now the weather is sunny and clear. But there's about to be a storm blowed up through here and it's supposed to snow on us. So we will see. If my brother in law and I were going to jump on our four wheelers tomorrow and ride our four wheelers like the wind. My Kawasaki Brute Force 750 sitting in the garage. I kicked that thing over a while ago. Started up first time. Battery still in good shape. Man, that is an arm straightening son of a gun. Badass. Looking forward to getting out there tomorrow. We may have to postpone that run and we'll see what the weather does. But nonetheless, I'm having a good time out here in Nevada, man. A little bit different than being in Los Angeles, man. Los angeles been about 65, 70 degrees last few days and out here, man, with this storm blowing in, I think it's 35 outside. Tomorrow's gonna get down to about 10 or 12. I'm gonna freeze my ass off on that four wheeler if we get out there. But I'll tell you what, getting out here in this, you know, these mountains and all this air and this wind going on, it's like a breath of fresh air. No pun intended. But hell man, that's what I'm planning on doing. But here's what I got for you today. I'm about to open up another can of audio whoop ass with Lisa Moretti, aka Ivory, aka Tina Ferrari. From her WWF and her GLOW days. She's going into the 2018 Class hall of Fame. WrestleMania 34, New Orleans, Louisiana. Man, I couldn't be more proud of her. That's a badass woman that's paid a lot of dues and traveled down a lot of roads. She had a hell of a run in the business of pro wrestling and she blazed a trail for others to follow as she followed the trails blazed before her and paid a lot of dues. And I tell you what man, she was a dynamic entertainer back in her GLOW days and was the same in her WWF E days. She goes into the hall of Fame and is very much deserved. Badass run from a real cool lady. It Was great catching up with her and talking to her and shooting the breeze. And I think you're going to enjoy a part two of this conversation. You know, doing these interviews on Skype, you know, sometimes can be a little difficult. Sometimes we step on each other a little bit and it's kind of discombobulating in the ear. But it was great to talk to Lisa. I'm looking forward to seeing her soon. If I get out to New Orleans, maybe I might get down there. I'm not making any promises. All of my Google alerts say I've already predicted I'm going to New Orleans. I have not predicted anything. I never know what I'm doing tomorrow. Hopefully I'm going on a four wheeler ride. Nonetheless, back to Lisa, man. Badass chick. Real cool lady. We've always gotten along ever since I know her and I've been watching her since 1986. So to see her going to the hall of Fame is going to be absolutely awesome. Well deserved once again. Hey man, me and my wife went out to dinner a while ago. Well, we went out to lunch and we were sitting at a restaurant and they set us down. We ordered a couple appetizers and the waitress brought us some iced tea. And in about five minutes had passed by and we were still sitting there and we had a straw in our glasses of iced tea. And finally the waitress came back to give us a refill on that iced tea. She filled up my wife's cup first and then she was coming over to fill up my glass and I was trying to do her a favor by moving the straw to the other side of the glass. When I grabbed that straw, I tip that whole glass of iced tea. Well, it was about three quarters full. She was just going to top me off. I spill all that tea all over the table, right in my wife's lap, on her iPhone and in her badass purse that she always carries around. God dang, she jumped out of her damn chair. She shot daggers through me with the look she gave me. She couldn't believe I spilled my iced tea all over her, let's say her leg region and on a personal or iPhone. Man, they sent a cleanup squad over there. There's a Damn table of 10 right beside us.
Steve Austin
I was embarrassed as a son of a bitch.
Steve Austin (casual commentary)
Shit, I was just trying to move my straw out of the way, tipped over to damn glass of iced tea. Shit everywhere. Anyway, so we sit down and waitress brings us another glass of iced tea for my wife. And man, I bust out a Splenda packet you ever get one of those Splenda packets and you kind of thump it with your finger to get all the Splenda in the bottom end of it? Man, I thumped that thing. As soon as I thumped it, it flew across the table and hit my wife right in the chest. Now not only have I spilled my wife's iced tea all over the floor and made a mess, you know, and on her lap, then I flick my damn splinter, hit her right in the chest. I got that going for me. And then I'm thinking, man, what the hell else can I do? I put my damn hand down on the table, flipped my knife and my fork up into the air and into the booth behind me. And this is a true story. So I don't know where the shit or why in my watch, because I'm scared to move, because I feel I'm going to knock something down or hurt somebody. It was a day of discombobulation. Finally we made it out of there alive and had a pretty good meal. And I don't think my wife's gonna want me to take her back anytime too soon. I was about to see if that waitress would bring me a booster chair and a bib. Cause I was sitting there like a big ass 250 pound baby knocking shit all over the place. Anyway, we got through lunch and I'm sitting there cutting it open this podcast, waiting for the storm to blow in, hoping I'm gonna ride my four wheeler tomorrow and get out of this little outskirts of Reno that he lives in and get out there on the trails.
Steve Austin
But.
Steve Austin (casual commentary)
But if not, we'll make chicken saddle out of chicken shit and do something.
Steve Austin
This is the Steve Austin Show.
Steve Austin (casual commentary)
Well, what was the one off gig with WWE WWF that you started talking about?
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
I got a call from, you know, I was living in Los Feliz doing my 10 jobs. Let's see, Jimmy Cornette called me and he was working for WWF and he had got my number from Howard Brody, who worked with all ladies shows AWA or something. So. And he was good friends with Luna. They go way back. So Howard gave him my number because they were looking for a girl that could look good in a dress and take a bump. And they needed her to show up in Phoenix for one of the WWF shows. So I said, well, you know, sure, I can do that date. But at the time I was training, I was a Revlon trainer. And every once in a while they give me these, you know, a season of gigs where I travel with all the stuff and I teach, you know, teach A banquet room full of ladies from their stores about the new products and what's happening, right? So I got that gig. It was a good gig, but I had to be in San Francisco the next day. So I said, as long as I can bring my Revlon shit, I'll do the gig for you, and then I'll get on a plane that night because I got to teach the next morning in San Francisco. Sure. Yeah. Cool. So I show up not knowing what the gig is, right? Talk about what, right? My motto is, you guys say yes to have any fun in life. So I get on the plane with all my. I mean, this is when you travel with a portfolio of all this stuff, boxes of crap, right? And Brawler and Harveena Harvey show up, pick me up at the airport, and they're like, damn, she's got a lot of stuff, right? So I was an odd duck from day one. So they bring me and all my Revlon shit to the arena, and now here I am, back in the wrest world, right? And it's huge. Miles of big, fat cables running all over the place, trunks upon trunks and wrestlers that all seem to be bad guys. It impressed me that everybody that walked by was either a devil or a werewolf or a vampire or dressed in black in one way or another. But it was certainly like, things had changed a lot. And it was really exciting to be there. So I was shown to the ladies locker room, where I got hissed and sneered at, and it turned out.
Steve Austin
Tell me about that. What happened?
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
Well, you know, I have to say, I turned into one of those, too, where somebody new comes in, you look over your shoulder, who the hell is that? And what's she doing in our locker room?
Steve Austin
I love it.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
Like we really have anything to say about it. So I was. I learned early on the car ride over to the arena that I was going to be posing as one of the Godfather hoes of the ho train. So I was like, okay, sure. I'm cool with that part. You know, that'll be great. So when I came to the locker room, the girls informed, you know, Steve Lombardi that the hoes go dress in the bathroom. They don't come in our locker room. And he stood up for me. Actually, Luna stood up for me, and she said, she's a worker. She's not a hoe.
Steve Austin
That's awesome.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
And then it was. It was Steve Lombardi that piped up at the pay table, and he said, she's a worker. Pay her like a worker, not a hoe.
Steve Austin (casual commentary)
Yeah, but isn't that cool?
Steve Austin
Because, I mean, man, God rest her soul, I didn't get a chance to know Luna that much, but, I mean, the conversation, she was super cool to me. We were really. You know, I love talking with Luna, and if Luna vouches for somebody or if Luna says something, and that's pretty much the bottom line, you could probably back me up on that.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
Oh, yeah, for sure. So it was. And it was great to see her because the last time I had seen her was probably a decade prior, and she was, you know, she was thinner, she was a lot tinier. And then I bump into her here backstage at WWF at the time, and she was jacked. Looked great, you know, really, it was so great to see her. And then another weird thing happened backstage. Jan was doing, you know, greasing up the guys in the makeup chair and slicking their hair back or doing whatever they needed her to do. And Scotty, too, hottie was in the chair. And he called me over and he said, hey, you work at Universal Studios? And I said, yeah, I'm in. I'm in a couple of the stunt shows over there because I finally got on board doing Waterworld and the Wild, Wild, Wild West Show. So I was on two shows, but I was, you know, rock bottom new kid. So I only worked a couple times a month, unless somebody passed you their shift. But it turns out I was working now we were in Phoenix, so they must have been on the west coast and up in la. And he went to Universal Studios with his family and saw me at the Wild Wild west show perform, and he recognized me. Isn't that weird?
Steve Austin
Yeah, pretty cool.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
So we made that connection, and I just think that was the weirdest, most coincidental thing. So there was a nice familiarity feeling backstage, even though it was brand new to me. And of course, you know, I had no idea what was going to transpire that night, but was willing to go for it and have some fun. So.
Steve Austin (casual commentary)
So how did that all go down?
Steve Austin
So you go down. You're part of the ho train. I mean, I'd have to. I got to go back and find that clip. But.
Steve Austin (casual commentary)
So. So what happened after that?
Steve Austin
You know, then they. That's when they said, hey, man, you know, we want to bring this person on full time. How did that happen?
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
Yeah, I raced up actually right after the act happened, right after the. And Jackie Moore, you know, she threw me out over the top rope and beat my ass down a little bit. And it was really fun. She did a great job. And all the hoes did A great job. And then I raced out of the arena to make the last flight out of Phoenix to get my ass up to Northern California to do my Revlon teaching. And so all my trunks came with me. I had my hoe dress on underneath my big red jacket that I had over the top. Went to the airport, made my flight, just barely got to Oakland, I think it was. And none of my stuff made it, none of my luggage.
Steve Austin
Oh, Jesus, that's a bummer.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
So now I'm thinking, I got a ho dress on, so how am I going to teach my class and be Miss Professional? So thank goodness, the next morning it got there and I changed my hoe dress into the professional clothes at a Staples. Remember Staples, where you get all your copies done? So I was getting all ready for my class and I changed in the bathroom and I did my big class during the day. And then during that Northern California Revlon tour of three or four days, JR called me and asked if I could put a little tape together to get Vince's approval on. So I did that when I got home, and he called me up and hired me. So, yeah, it happened really fast. In fact, I had obligation to fill out the Revlon tour. And while I was on tv, brand new to wwf, it started happening that in my classes of all women, they started tapping me on the shoulder after the day was over and saying, are you a wrestler? So I was Miss Professional, but on TV at the same time. And they started making the connection.
Steve Austin
Right.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
That was kind of fun.
Steve Austin
So what'd you think when you first rolled into the WWF landscape at the time? Because help me out here. Who was writing then? Was it Vince Russo?
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
Yeah, Vince Russo was the writer. And, you know, I mean, we had great storylines. Everything was wonderful and super. My, you know, eyeballs were as big as saucers, just taking it all in. But on the same note, I was looking at what the girls were doing and wondering how I was going to fit in. So Sable was like, you know, the big cat's meow. She was like, woo, Hot to trot. Beautiful, sexy. Doing the sexy thing out there. And I was really afraid that someone would want me to do that because it's not really my cup of tea. I don't feel like I'm very good at it. So even though I had not been in my boots for 10 years, I was hoping that they would require that I get into them and start tangling. So they did, thank God, and, you know, handed me to Jackie Moore because she was really. Her and Luna were the Only ones. And Tory Pak actually too. Yeah, we had a small group then, you know, and so, you know, Deborah and her puppies Puppies chant was big because of Road dog. He got that going. Poor Jackie. And I, Jackie Moore, we'd go out there and try to mix it up and have just a match with no story or anything. Nobody even knew who the good guy or the bad guy was. And they'd start doing the puppies chant and God bless Jackie because, you know, I get really discouraged about that. And it was like, you know, you watch the guys and they're really good and, you know, they got all their gimmicks down and we'd go out there kind of not without no direction and no, you know, there's no setup, right. So it's up to us to just like sing an acapella.
Steve Austin (casual commentary)
Well, I mean, it's almost a cold
Steve Austin
match, but working with Jackie because, you know, I knew Jackie from when I first broke in, down in the Dallas days and I knew how physical she was in the ring and she could go and so how long did it take you and her to get together to really knock off your ring rust? Because when I first came into the WWF back in the day, I coming from a tricep tear and I was working with Savio Vega every single night. He's Puerto Rican. Puerto Rican's gonna get their shit in. And I was working heel. Had to shine him up, then get. I was, you know, I was still blowed up. I just lay in a rear chin lock for the heat and then flip, flop and fly for him for a comeback while I was sucking wind. And ain't nobody paying $20 to get inside an arena and watch for somebody suck wind. So Salvio got me in shape with respect to how physical Jackie was. She's in the hall of Fame. What were you thinking? Hey, man, this chick's gonna get me ready real fast.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
Oh, yeah. Well, I think she was intending on doing that and also welcoming me into the ring, into the WWF in her own special way, as you know what I mean? So I was kind of her punching bag for about nine months and I started to feel like, man, I don't even like this anymore. It hurts too much. And then people started nudging me and the guys would say, hey, man, you know, put your foot down. And I put my foot down by saying, that's not what wrestling is. Nobody wants to pay to see a real chick fight in the ring because it's ugly and it doesn't sell.
Steve Austin
So how did that Conversation go down Well, I just.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
I never talked to her about it. I just persisted to. At first, early on, I always felt like, oh, it's gotta be me because she's so talented. It's gotta be me and my ring rust, and I'm not bringing it for her, you know? And when we got off our tours, 10 day tours, I'd go down to Huntington beach to Rick Bassman's gym, and I trained there. I would just drive myself down there for the two or three days we had off and get in the ring and let the, you know, work with the little guys or just to try to get some mojo back. And I love Jackie because she lifted my spirits by telling me that the chanting going on during our matches, she said, we just have to train them different. And I'll never forget that. And it was true. You know, it was up to us to swim upstream and make them want to see the action again. So we were kind of in there cold turkey, trying to make that happen. And even China one day. I remember coming back, we worked our asses off in the ring, we put a good match together and came back. And I was really discouraged in the locker room because of that swimming upstream thing again. It's like we're just not getting anywhere with the fans. And then, you know, you have that fear of if they piss on your match or they're just chanting puppies, that the company will go that route because that's what the fans are chanting for. And you don't want it to because you want to work.
Steve Austin
Yeah, you're a worker.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
You want action stories. You want to have something more on a wrestling show. You want to be part of the wrestling, not the other stuff. So Chyna, you know, she gave me some words of encouragement that she said, you know what, you just need to shut up because you're here. That means you're good. And I took that to heart. You know, it was short and simple, but she said, don't beat yourself down because you're here. And they don't just let anybody work here.
Steve Austin
Right.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
So that was something I'll always remember as being encouraging.
Steve Austin
When did they first approach you with the right to censor gimmick? And obviously, they already probably knew you could talk a blue streak from your past stuff, the real you sent them and your personality. But when did they start just saying, hey, man, this lady can really work this gimmick and come up with that stuff for you guys? Because Vince Russo, I guess, was writing at the time.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
Yeah. And the only direction Vince Russo ever gave me was just be a bitch. So that's what Ivory's, you know, like, they give you this name. You have no idea where it came from. And then that was about the gist of my direction. Just be a bitch, Ivory. Okay. Do my best. So. But the right to censor I got. Stephanie approached me with it, and she was real tentative about it, like, you know, like, you know, oh, nobody's going to want to do this. She said, would you want to join the group? You know, And I said, hell, yeah, I can't. I was, you know, waiting for something to sink my teeth into. So I was all in to be Ms. Ivory of the RTC. It was great fun, too.
Steve Austin
I had a lot of people send me emails talking about Yalls entrance music because, you know, y' all were getting in the ways of a lot of good times that, you know, because it was a right to censor. She always shutting a lot of stuff down. But when that siren music or the noise started happening, I mean, it was an abrupt interrupt of everything. It's like, oh, holy shit, what is that noise going on? And there y' all will come marching down in your white shirts and your black pants, all, you know, nice and tidy and business like, how did that feel? You had your finger on the pulse and it was resonating.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
Yeah, it was. Well, being out there with the gang of guys, especially at house shows, when you, you know, you know, you have a little more freedom to shoot from the hip. You have a little more freedom, a little more time to engage with the audience, it's more intimate. Even though back then, right, we still had 20,000 every single night, easy 18, 20,000 every night. So it was really fun when you're out there with the gang, because when they would cut their promos about why they saw the light, especially Godfather turning into the good father, you know, I could hardly keep a straight face, it was so funny. And then. But when I would go out by myself for TV events to, you know, especially with that outfit, like, you're tiny and you're all prim and proper, and you're tight, tight, you know, wired tight. And I'd be so excited to go out the curtain. But then right before you go, you've just got to get the hate on, you know, you got to turn in despite. I hate everybody out there in the arena. And the minute you go out there, the whole place would boo and hiss. Ya. And that was a great feeling.
Steve Austin
It is a great feeling when you get that kind of response from either a Love standpoint or a hate standpoint, whether you're heel or baby. But how was that for you from coming up in the Glow days? Because you're like this all American, I mean, very articulate, like I said, you know that scene where you go into the locker room and you change and you come up kind of like the Power Ranger kick. And so you were out there with this athletic baby face. I mean, and your ring attire, I guess purple or lavender is your. Purple is your favorite color. And your outfit didn't leave a lot to be imagined, you know, and then, you know, and when you would wrestle with the, the tight black spandex on, you're a very nice looking athletic lady. Then to go to the business attire. So how did it feel going from straight up baby face and showing a lot of skin or stuff and then going to the right to sense of working heel, being all covered up and trying to achieve that state of hate that you just explained to me.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
It was awesome. Just because it, it's your work, you know, it's what you like. Every actor wants a good role. You know, I love playing characters. So it was, you know, and I always say, you know, it's awesome to be a baby face and be over and be cheered and get a lot of stuffed animals sent to the locker room on your behalf. But really, you know, you're caged. Anything you do every night, they want to see you do that same finisher every night. You got to make them happy by doing the same, same stuff, right? And when you're a heel, you are not constrained one bit. You can say what you want, you can do, you can laugh, you can hiss, you can just not even care. And you have freedom to express the bad guy any way you want. So that's a fun role to play. And hell, the outfit was really nice because, you know, I don't, I don't know how the girls do it nowadays. I don't know who's making the great outfits on our show now, you know, because back then it was just, you know, we had what, one or one and a half, two sewing people and they were busy working for China and Undertaker and whoever needed something, you know, top, top dogs, right? So you were like on your couple days off running around the Hollywood strip looking at all the hoe clothes to try to see what you wouldn't fall out of. That's snazzy enough looking and athletic enough looking, right? And that's what you wore in the ring, so. And of course, unlike Glow, where you had your one Look, WWF was. And WWE is like, hey, every night you gotta look different and hot. So when it turned out to just be a choice of do I wear the black and white or the white and black, it was really nice.
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Steve Austin (casual commentary)
Yeah, but, you know, going back to
Steve Austin
what you're saying, you're so right. You know, being the baby face Tina Ferrari, you can't be on your way to the ring and trip and take a header. Now you as part of the right to censor, were you to trip coming down the ramp, hey, you can have egg on your face. There is that freedom. And as the baby face, everything. I mean, you can experiment and you can do things and you can be a baby face with a lot of range, but there is that box that you kind of got to stay in. And as the heel, I agree with you 100%. I mean, anything is available. You can do whatever you want. There's way more freedom in being a heel.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
Yeah, it's a great spot to be in. And every. Everybody should have a chance to be a heel because it'll grow you as a baby face. I mean, look at you. You were the guy that. You were the guy that could be both. They loved.
Steve Austin (casual commentary)
That was an interesting time. But when did you first turn heel?
Steve Austin
Was that with right to censor? Because you were never.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
I was always a heel. I was. I was only a baby face at WWE when I came back from tough enough.
Steve Austin
But you were a baby face all through Glow and how. Yeah, yeah.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
So when I came to wwf they made me a heel right away, slapping everybody, beating them over the head with the belt and, you know, cursing at the audience and just being mean to everybody.
Steve Austin
Well, take me through the swing of, come to that first dressing room and all the girls thinking, oh, first of all, hoes don't dress here, they dress over there. And okay, you're a worker, you, you are going to dress here. But it's got to be a caddy environment, both with respect to the few women, female talent that were there. And then when did Molly come in? Molly Holly.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
Molly Holly came in. She was the first one to come in that started the new kind of diva. Good group that we had. Working group. Yeah, working group. Because they weren't calling us divas quite yet. They, we were still the women's division. It was a women's division. Then it turned diva. So she came in, God, probably pretty, right? Pretty much right away. Probably 2000, I would imagine.
Steve Austin
Right? And then when Trish, when did Trish come in? Was she before or after Trish came in?
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
I think around 2000 also. So, yeah, I was there for a year because I remember, you know, pretty much just wrestling against Jackie and then Tori and I had a few bouts. Of course we had the first ever women's hardcore match. That was awesome and a great experience. And I watched that, you know, now I'm seeing little clips floating around. I watched that the other night and it just made me laugh. It was just so, you know, high strung, believable. Everybody was really committed to it. And that night actually Vince McMahon gave us a bonus. Can you believe it? Pretty special. That is the only time he gave me a bonus. But I thought that was pretty cool. Part of the world of WWF also for me was how strange it was that you never quite knew how things worked.
Steve Austin (casual commentary)
With regards to what?
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
With regards to how do you get paid? I was, I was embarking on buying property and you know, the banks want to know how much money, how much money do you make? Yeah, and I kind of didn't quite know. I didn't have paperwork to show that. I mean, you have a contract, but it wasn't like, you know, the guys have these downside guarantees and all that. It was pretty ambiguity ambiguous. And also I remember asking Mark Henry because he's so, you know, easy to approach and such a nice guy. And I said, so what happens if you get hurt here? You know, like what happens if you get like a broken leg or something and you can't work? He says, well, if they like you, they'll take Care of you. So it was definitely like a pioneering kind of a world. So, you know, and from the background I came from, even though it was glow, lpwa and pow, I was still always taught that, you know, you don't say no in wrestling. You say, yeah, how can we make that work? But you don't say, no, I don't do that move. No, I won't take that move. No, I won't do that trick. You say yes and you shut up and you learn. So that's where I was coming from. So, you know, when they decided to that Terry Reynolds was going to burn my face with her hot cigar, I said, and how are we going to make that work?
Steve Austin
You're pretty damn smart.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
And I just wound up with a nice scar on my cheek for a couple weeks. That's okay. It didn't hurt that bad. And yeah, that was real. But anyway, it was. The world was a whole different ball of wax, but it was happening and happening fast. Jackie and I had matches. We had the hardcore matches. We had three of them, actually, that I was perusing the WWE website and it wasn't even listed on there. They had first women's hardcore match. Our three just weren't even mentioned. So we gotta make sure somebody knows about that.
Steve Austin
You were the WWE women's champion on three different occasions. What did you think when they approached you and said, hey, we're gonna. We're gonna drop. We're gonna put the belt on you?
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
I just thought it was again, something like our photo shoot for Entertainment Weekly. They just come and ask you to do something, you say, sure, okay. But I didn't certainly, you know, make a think it was anything, you know, that I earned. It was just, hey, the storyline has to go here. They're gonna put the strap on me, and we'll see what they asked me to do with it. So we didn't have a whole lot of girls to fight and have big angles, but I got to take down some old ladies, me and Moolah.
Steve Austin
That was a great segment, though, especially when you came down the ramp and you had that broomstick. Jesus Christ. You were vicious to them. How cool and tough were those ladies?
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
So cool. And they taught me a lot in the short amount of time I got to work with them. You know, Moolah would. She told me right before going out the curtain, you know, she'd say, because they always cut the girls time, always. And she, you know, she nods her head. When they cut us down from, you know, seven minutes to four minutes, she nods her Head. And then she looks at me and goes, irene is live tv. We can do whatever we want.
Steve Austin (casual commentary)
That's pretty cool.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
Yeah. So they were very giving and quite the pranksters. I remember when I think Mae Young was gonna do that, you know, Bronco Billy thing on Lawler in the turnbuckle.
Steve Austin (casual commentary)
Yeah.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
And she was in the bathroom stuffing sardines in her crotch pants just for Jerry Lawler. Yeah. Just a fishy smell down there.
Steve Austin
Oh, my God, that's great.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
Can you imagine Mae Young back in the day, when you weren't supposed to show your ankles? Right. And she had tattoos, she smoked cigars, probably drank with the boys. And she's wrestling in, you know, a one piece. I talk. I just. Those are the pioneers right there. Yeah, those guys were so impressive.
Steve Austin
What were your thoughts? Were you seeing a transition in the women's division or what were your thoughts when they started calling you guys divas because you're the tomboy, you're the athletic tomboy. I was reading the article that you sent me, and, you know, you're the almost anti diva. Really?
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
Yeah. Well, I guess it just depends on what you look at as a diva. And I understand that it's packaging and it's, you know, it's neat to put a name on what the girls are. But the only thing we had to, it seemed to me they were making a Sports Illustrated models, you know, instead of women who wrestle on a wrestling program. So, you know, I mean, it's worked for the company, but. Yeah, I think it was a big part of what made it okay for me when I left was that it was getting harder and harder for me to talk really great about our product because they had gotten rid of all the wrestlers, the women workers, and replaced that segment of our shows with, you know, pieces that were just really embarrassing to women. And nothing against the women that were trying out to be divas, but it was that, you know, watching them get canned in front of everybody on tv, all the audience voting them off with their cell phones and votes, you know, like. Like the Voice or one of any of those shows. But it was just kind of not based on really expressing their talents. It was just their looks only. And then we made them do those stupid relays, and it was just really demeaning and. And didn't have anything to do with wrestling.
Steve Austin (casual commentary)
Yeah.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
You know, make a different reality show about that, you know, but don't put it on our show. So it got to me where it got hard for me to put it over when I was doing WWE Experience. Or anything, you know.
Steve Austin
So then what were you thinking? Like, hey, man, I need to get out of here, or what was the writing on the wall? You'd had enough. What was up?
Steve Austin (casual commentary)
Because you were still young.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
Yeah, I was kind of a, you know, I had a really good gig they gave me. They signed me on to be, like an actual employee with the studio. And they were turning me into a talking head. And I loved working with the team and all the studio people, super creative people. But I was disgruntled because there was still some good action to be had back in the ring, and I wanted to be in my boots and not be a talking head when I had the best gig in the world. I mean, come on. They fly you out of your hometown. You work one day, you get picked up at the airport. You're like, you know, you're like Jonathan Coachman now. You know, the easy street. They set you up in a nice hotel in New York. Someone delivers you smackdown so you can talk about it. You know, you watch it on your computer. That's your homework. Big whoop. And then you get dressed up, a makeup artist comes to your room. You know, I'd do my own makeup, and Jill would just have coffee and read the newspaper. And then, you know, you go do the show someplace. It's lickety split easy fun. And then you get on the airplane, come home, and you're getting paid, you know, kind of the same as what you pay on the road. So it was such an easy gig. But I was there was, you know, I'm not very good at, you know, accepting great opportunities right away. I, you know, I was still kind of pissed that I wasn't in the ring.
Steve Austin
Yeah. But sometimes when you still have the work in your blood and it's not out yet, and like you said, they put you in that gig. And now looking back, hey, man, that was a sweet gig. But when you still got wrestling in your blood, it's not a good gig because you want to wrestle.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
Yeah. And, you know, when I was working the tough enough gigs because I loved working the tough enough, tough enough two and tough enough three, But I loved that gig because, you know, you could land, you landed in a place, you got an apartment, you go on training every day. You're meeting these young kids that are so inspired and they really want to work hard. So you're around this really cool scene, but again, you're watching our show and you're like, damn, those girls are having fun in there. Damn, I want to do that again. And I Got a little piece of it when I came back. And my wrestling had changed a lot between these big windows of time where they weren't doing anything with me and they'd send you down to Ohio Valley Wrestling and, you know, I'm not going to train you guys. I'm going to get some training. So we just get in there and drill. And it was the first, you know, real training I ever had, was the drill. You know, the drills and working with all the kids. So when I came back on the scene, I was a baby face and had a real short little tidbit of a run with Jazz because she was the title holder at the time and she was a badass fit. Finley really just really was driving her to be just a mean badass in there. She was pulling it off real believable. So they were starting to prime an angle with us, and then she had an injury that was just real persistent and it wasn't going away and she was going to need to rest it. So it just went. Poop went away. The angle went away. So that, that's one of those little, you know, those little regrets that you wish you could have seen that through. Because it would have been fun to be a baby face, try that out and work with Jazz. Would have been so awesome.
Steve Austin
This is the Steve Austin Show. How'd you like, you know, the Tough Enough Gig, which you liked? Because I enjoyed my run. I got. I guess that was 2011, so many years ago now. It was just so fun to. Because I've always. People always ask me on my email, hey, you ever gonna open up a wrestling school? No, I'm not. But when I got a chance to be a part of Tough Enough, I mean, really, I don't know how you guys did it back then, but I was not wearing an earbud. They didn't tell me what to do. They didn't tell me what to say. They said, you know, Bill Demott was a guy and we had, you know, Trish, Booker T. And Bill and myself, and it was really like a shoot. I mean, we know wrestling can work, but I mean, Tough Enough was a shoot. We just went in there and there weren't no retakes. It was all organic. It was on the spot, on the fly, and totally ad libbed. I loved it. And of course, then it disappeared. How did you like that world? Because I always like talking to the WWE Superstars when I go to a show or to offer a bit of advice. And here you're specifically trying to teach them. So I really enjoyed that experience. How was it for you after learning everything that you did? All in Road, starving and Glow or paying your dues in glow? Getting taught by Mondo. All these years later and you're trying to share some information with these kids.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
It was just great. I loved it. And the first year was really fun because we had Chavo, Al Snow, and hardcore Holly and me. And I think our team had a lot of chemistry. I mean, Bob, Holly, we had our bad guy, we had our tough, you know, gonna kick the shit out of you if you're not listening. And then Chava was a little more delicate and he could explain things really well. And Al, of course, was like the dad. You know, they all trusted Al, and he was a good little prankster guy and kept it fun and funny, sincere. And then I was the girl, you know, that could. That could look after the women in there. And it was just a really good time. That was in Marina Del Rey is where we set up shop in El Segundo. We had a ring out there. And then the second time around was Bill Demott came on board and we had. Who else? Bill and Al. And maybe that was it. The three of us. I think it was the three of us. I guess the main thing getting used to that gig was wearing a mic all the time. You know, it's like the reality show thing, right? Because you always got your pack on, right? And then so when you're gossiping about each other, you're always like, shit, where's my mic on kayfabe? Who heard that? Damn, you gotta remember to unplug yourself, you know? But, yeah, I love the kids. And I had a little tough time transitioning back to working on the house shows because I came in and I was, I think, part of the smackdown group or something. And we had. I had. I was with Stacy and Tori on the house shows, doing the old, you know, I'm not going to take my robe off for a bikini showdown. And I just come from doing Tough Enough. It's on the air, and you're. You're experiencing all these kids wanting to lay their lives on the line to learn how to work. And then I got a cower to Stacey and Dorian. I got to get beat up by these guys. And, you know, they're like, test was dating Stacy at the time. And I tell them, I'd like, damn, man, teach your girl how to punch or something. I mean, there's no excuse why we should not be training them, because they're both athletic and they both want to Learn, but somebody can. Can somebody rise to the occasion and. And let them know how to throw a punch? Because I'd kind of like to be in the ring with somebody that's beating me up. For real.
Steve Austin
Yeah.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
So that was tough, but, you know, so that. And I always. I always take. I always take fault for not being able to go with the flow better, but I think it's because I'm passionate about putting on a good show. And when someone's rearing back to lay a punch on me and it looks like she to me, I know it looks like shit to everybody else.
Steve Austin
Right.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
And that bothers me. I want our stuff to look really good, you know. So anyway, that was a kind of a trust. Tough little transitions. I got to do a lot of stuff at wwe and I did it and always enjoyed myself, but really my heart was always wanting to get in the ring and have great matches.
Steve Austin
When you look back now and it's 2018, as we're having this conversation, you're going into the WWE hall of fame at WrestleMania 34. Congratulations. I'm so happy for you. And you look at what you're doing back in 85, 86, all to the glow days and then a little bit of a dry period coming out of poww or Powerful Women of Wrestling. Lpwa, awa, then wwf, some stuff on the side. Just the evolution of the business. And now the women aren't divas anymore, they're WWE Superstars. And hell, women are main event and pay per views and Monday night Raws. I mean, you're a big part of that. You were one of the women that paved the way for the women today and to see where the business is at now for the women. How do you feel about that?
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
I'm just glad. I'm glad that women are still coming out to the ring and there's still a few of us out there that want to do wrestling, and they're actually taking the hard knocks and signing up to some local school or some tribe where they can travel around and pick up some tips and keep on doing it. Because what I learned in Tough Enough and I brought this back to our locker room at the time, was that when you see all the scads of girls trying out for this reality TV show that can't even, you know, jump back and forth over a heavy bag, you know, and in the guys too, some of them are so out of shape that you go back to the locker room where, you know, sometimes you. You are made to feel like, hey, you're replaceable. You guys are dime a dozen. And I was there to tell him, you are not dime a dozen. Everybody in this room is really special because you can do what you can do. You put up with it, you take your craft seriously and you deliver. And there's not a lot of girls that can do this. So I'm just glad that, you know, it's so. When I watch women wrestle and really do it well in some of the indie shows I've been to and stuff, I really do. My eyes water, I welt up and I really get emotional about how great it is. Women that can embrace their athleticism, and especially the women that are all shapes and sizes. I love seeing that part of stories told where you got the big girl against the little, you know, bad girl, the little gnat, the little bothersome insect. You know, there's just great stories to be told with different body types, and we have that at WWE right now. We have all sizes and shapes and really good, strong contenders. It's just. It makes me feel really good. I love watching the girls on the show now.
Steve Austin (casual commentary)
I do too, because there was that.
Steve Austin
There was that awkward period or, you know, the period you were speaking about earlier. It's like, eh, you know, come on, man. You know, because, you know, hell, you know, I was a big fan of, you know, Wendy Richter, Sherry Martel, you know, way back in the day, and then it kind of turned into that weird stuff you were talking about. Now it's like, I love to watch the women wrestle, but I want to watch great wrestling. And they got some great gals out there that are really kicking ass.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
And, you know, you know, what amazes me now too, about, and I think this happens just in evolution, is that what the girls do now, and the guys too. But you know, the girls that somehow they make it look easy. The costuming is awesome. They all look super hot. Their bodies are hot, their wrestling is great. And on the side, they're doing a whole reality show of, you know, the divas show. I'm like, how did. How are they doing it? You know, when are they all, like, nervous and out of their sorts of trying to figure out what they're gonna do with finishing moves and, you know, just the work. I just remember that being all encompassing, like, worrisome and, you know, challenging, and you never feel like you're as good as you want to be and where's it going from here? And those guys make it look easy.
Steve Austin
They're working our asses off. I got a chance. I was at the 25th anniversary of RA up there in Brooklyn. I've known Bree and Nikki Bella for several years, but I never got a chance to stand around and talk to them. Of course, we were at the building all day, so I had many hours to kill. And, man, just standing there on stage and they came by, we started shooting a breeze, and, man, we talked for about 30 minutes. And, man, I had so much fun talking to those girls. And they were telling about all the different shoots and. Jesus Christ, what? Nikki had the neck surgery. Bri as the baby. I mean, juggling all the shoots, staying on the road or being a mom, it was so fun talking to him. But, man, all those women are so super, super busy, and I think it's badass.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
Yeah, well, they are doing a great job with it because, like I said, they look. They make it look like, you know, yeah, let me just put my. My gear on, my fabulous, flashy, awesome gear and strut out to the ring and just do this great match, like that. Easy. They make it look easy, and I know it's not, so they're doing an awesome job.
Steve Austin
Hey, when I was first talking to you on the episode on Tuesday, we talked a lot about glow, but I never really got into the Netflix series, and I haven't watched the Netflix series yet because I heard it was going to come out like everybody in the world did. And I was like, man, I don't know if I want to watch it or not because I have my memories of glow, and I don't want them changed. I don't want them altered. I remember the first time I went and saw the Wrestler with Mickey Rourke many years ago. I had the flu. I went to a theater in Santa Monica. It was just me and about eight other people on a daytime showing. And I didn't like the movie because I thought it was supposed to apply to me, and I didn't experience that part of wrestling. So at first, I shit all over the wrestler. But then, of course, I loved it because I now understand what the story was. But with glow, I want your opinion of the Netflix series. I have not seen it for those reasons. I'm going to watch it. But tell me what you thought about it and your feelings when they brought it back or when they purchased the rights from Ursula and made this series.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
Well, I think that, again, you got these very masterful writers and producers and directors behind it, and they have done a great job of taking what they know, you know, what sells, what makes a good show, making it their own, and then mixing it in with what really was our experience. And I think that it's so great to take the 80s and put them on television or, you know, streaming. The 80s was a kooky, weird ass time. Freaky, weird music, horrible out, you know, horrible wardrobe. I mean, the styles then were just gross. But man, we all lived it. And they, they put that flavor throughout the show. The cars, you know, the architecture, the apartments and where the girls live and stuff, it's all there. And it really, I love that part of it that they put that period together and parts of it were. I think that they did a really good job of combining what we went through and then making it, you know, a story that can persevere storytelling through several hopeful several seasons. And I think they're embarking on their second season now. They're shooting their second season if they're not already done with it.
Steve Austin
I was reading that some of the women from GLOW kind of felt slighted, that maybe they weren't asked for their advice or some input or this, that or whatever for various reasons because I felt they felt they should have been consulted. But you know, as you know, when these things take a life of their own, someone's got the rights, you know, they're going to watch the original and they. And write their own. So how did you feel about that?
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
Well, I think I would make the same decision if I was the writer and the director. You know, you got enough information out there just watching stuff on YouTube and meeting Ursula. I'm sure that, you know, you want to make it your own. So you take the period, you take all women wrestling. You got great characters, they made up great characters. And I especially liked there was a segment, since you haven't seen it, I'll just explain it, where one of the girls on the show actually does have brothers and a dad that are wrestlers. So she takes one of the other girls who is a prime pick. They want her in the show because she's got a soap opera background. So she's kind of famous but not working anymore. So they want to make her into a wrestler, but she's resisting it. So this one girl brings her to the family wrestling ring in their backyard and the boys are trying to teach this girl how to jump off the top turnbuckle. And so, you know, when you have never fallen down in your whole life on purpose, it's met with lots of trepidation. So they showed that in this scene really well, where they take these little tiny bumps and then they get better and better and more brave at doing it, more courageously. Until finally they kind of get it. And the show, of course, like every show, you know, they learn wrestling like in two seconds.
Steve Austin (casual commentary)
Right.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
They get good at it really fast, which is kind of not true, but, you know, and the characters, the way they find their characters is really fun and fun to watch too. So they did a great job.
Steve Austin
I think Marc Maron's in it, right? Is he Matt Sember?
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
Yeah. Well, I guess they have two very offsetting men in the show which would emulate David McLean. But again, they don't make them like those guys. They just take how different they were. You know, they were so totally different, but added to the weirdness of our whole experience. So they did that well too. They have a young guy and they have the director guy. And the director guy is, you know, his own character and his own head case, which makes him interesting.
Steve Austin
So do you recommend I watch it?
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
Yeah, I binge watched it the first season in two sittings and it does. It's like any series, it takes you a couple episodes to start, you know, really getting into it. So. But yeah, I thought it was. I thought it was good and I'm really happy, but. And surprised that so many people like it. It's been really well received, so there must be some kind of thing going on with our culture where they were ready for it.
Steve Austin
Alright, if you're gonna give it a thumbs up, I'm gonna watch it. I just had to. I think I'm on season three of Narcos and it's so crazy and chaotic. I can't follow the writing and I'm caught up on Walking Dead. I'm waiting for the next episode to drop. All right, so I'm probably going to binge watch Glow. I never thought I'd binge watch anything, man, when you're backed up on the Walking Dead or Breaking Bad or whatever. So, yeah, I think I could probably binge watch Glow in like three days.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
Yeah, easy. Well, Narcos got a double thumbs up on that one. I loved that.
Steve Austin
Yeah.
Steve Austin (casual commentary)
But did you get.
Steve Austin
Did you get through season three?
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
No.
Steve Austin
Yeah, Well, I think it's season three.
Steve Austin (casual commentary)
Yeah. I think.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
I thought they only had like two.
Steve Austin (casual commentary)
Oh, it's two.
Steve Austin
Okay. I'm on season two. I had too many Steel series to the end.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
I watched the whole thing. I was hooked.
Steve Austin
The Cali cartel just took Gilberto. It's the episode after that and I'm like, so lost. I'm like, man, you're killing me. You're killing me.
Steve Austin (casual commentary)
Because the first one was so good.
Steve Austin
I'M going to try to hang with it and keep it going. But anyway, so then I'm going to watch glow, and I'm going to call you back. You're going into the hall of fame. It means the world to you. Tell me about this preparation for your speech. You just sent me this article that you wrote. It's I don't know how many words long. You have the gift of gab. You were journalist. You're a public relations. Yes. You got that major going for you. So you're gonna crush this kid.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
Well, I hope so. Shoot, it's a big moment. You don't want to mess it up. I want to enjoy it, too. So that's something I've learned from doing a little dabbling in community theater here on the island. And I dabble in it any chance I get. I got to turn my meatloaf off. So I'm walking into the kitchen here.
Steve Austin
Are you thinking about giving me the answer here? But are you thinking about who's going to induct you?
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
Oh, yeah, I'm giving it a lot of thought. In fact, I put it out on Twitter to see who the fans would like to see induct me. And I've gotten some really cool answers. But, yeah, I got somebody in line already.
Steve Austin
Beautiful.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
And, yeah, I'm gonna do my best to not bore anybody with a speech that's way too long, because the night does get very long, and I've got some good ideas already. So I want to try to get the speech prepared so that you can really get comfortable with your ideas, so that you're not reading something. You can just say it. But stay on. Stay on point so that you don't blabber. That's my intention. I learned in the theater that every time you add something new, your performance gets thrown off. Whack. So that's why they have things called dress rehearsal. I mean, you put a different pair of shoes on, and all of a sudden you can't remember your lines, you know, So I just want to get all that shit taken care of so that you can be in the moment. And whatever swerve comes, you know, they want to, you know, bring the right to censor out. Great. Bring it on, and we'll just have fun with it. So I'm trying to get that speech written in the next, I don't know, three weeks or so.
Steve Austin
You're gonna get emotional up there and start crying.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
Who knows? Heck, I hope so.
Steve Austin (casual commentary)
Hey, I'm looking at you right now
Steve Austin
in the video scope as Randy Savage would say, I asked you about this. I think it was off camera all these years. I mean, you look great. I know you're still in shape. Are you feeling any pain at all? The wear and tear, the bumps and bruises, Any of that catch up with you? How are you feeling?
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
I feel pretty good as long as I keep moving. I think if I had to sit down for a job, I would feel all tense in my neck and stuff. But my. My life is outdoorsy. I'm moving all the time. You know, my job is kind of physical work, working with the dogs. So I think as long as I keep moving, then I'll stay ahead of it. And I'm not, you know, I'm one American that can say, I do not visit the drugstore. I haven't spent money on a prescription for I don't know how long. Like, forever. And that's, like. I want that, like, claim to fame. You know? That's important. No prescription drugs.
Steve Austin
Hey, one thing I wanted to clear up, because we were talking before we started doing the podcast, and I was on your Wikipedia page, and I just found out that you were a Los Angeles Express cheerleader, and you're like, I was never in the landscaping business. You were so resolute about that. So clear up that misconception, because, God dang it, I don't want you to
Steve Austin (casual commentary)
leave out of here with people thinking
Steve Austin
you're in the landscape business if you don't want them to think you're in the landscape business business.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
I hate digging holes in the garden and putting. Spending money to put something in the hole, and then what grows around it? A bunch of freaking weeds that you gotta dig holes and pull out, and then you get a pile of weeds. You gotta move that shit over to a burn pile, and then you gotta spend time burning it in your driveway. Damn. I don't. Not a landscaper. I don't like it.
Steve Austin
She's into animals and dogs, and that's what she does. She's not into landscaping. And you just joined Twitter. How's your Twitter experience been? And I forgot to ask you, on the last podcast, you got to give everybody your Twitter handle so they can follow you on social media and your Instagram account.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
Yeah. Okay, well, that's a whole other new ball game is the social media for me, I just started. Well, a week ago today, last Monday, I did my first tweet. I put my first Instagram pictures up. And, you know, this stuff's fun, but it takes time. It's really been fun. And I. I Definitely wanted to get in touch with everybody because I didn't want to show up this big event with all of my co workers and all the new faces that I have yet to meet, all the fans, all the glory and then just, you know, come in and leave. I wanted to experience it from the minute I got the word with the fans because I know they know, they know how to get me excited. So that's why I was reaching out. And it's working. I'm watching so many fun clips they send and photos and then that makes me go back to my stuff and find old stuff and share it. So it's been really a great experience. But between Twitter, Instagram, I haven't even got like a Facebook page up yet. I have an old one that I don't use. How you going to go to Wikipedia then on top of all that and edit your information that, you know, they got me way too tall and way too fat and a landscaper and I think I've been married a couple times. I can't keep up with all of it.
Steve Austin
So what's your Twitter handle?
Steve Austin (casual commentary)
Dammit.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
My Twitter handle is morettiivory. And on Instagram it's Lisa Moretti official. And I'm gonna have a website too, so that I can kind of streamline requests for, you know, if someone has a magazine they want signed or. I hate to tell you, but truthfully, it all goes in a big box right now because I don't have the time to get back to people. So that has made me feel guilty for all these years. You know, I'd like to. Something comes in the mail, I want to be able to get it back to the person it belongs to without me having to lick stamps and feel like it's one more thing to do.
Steve Austin
But you know what, it's nice when I first started talking to you again after all these years, to finally meet somebody who's in my age range that is further behind technology curve than I am as far as social media and all that bullshit goes, because I'm the worst. And finally I found someone who's, you got to catch me. So I can't believe that I'm ahead of you in that regard because I'm so old school.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
I was blown away when you said, oh, yeah, I've been on it for seven years. I mean, oh my God, seven years to my seven days.
Steve Austin
Jesus Christ. But hey, better late than never, kid.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
Yeah. And you know what? I've been in touch with Mick Foley via Twitter and we're all going to get Together, the next autograph signing, because him and Nora, Molly Holly and myself will be at the big event in queens, middle March, March 10th. So we're kind of through the Twitter thing. We're hooking up together. We're going to go have lunch and catch up and stuff. So it has been a really neat thing to get me reconnected with friends.
Steve Austin
Man, that's a pretty cool thing because every now and then I'll be watching a video and my wife will say, why are you watching that? I'm like, some fan sent it to me. And, man, I'll watch so many things. Like, well, hell, the angle I did with Molly Holly and Spike Dudley, where she slaps me in the ring because I was calling her a bimbo. And then me and Spike have the championship match, and they tore up my petition for the Triple Threat match between myself, Chris Jericho and Chris Benoit. And I was trying to get out of that.
Steve Austin (casual commentary)
So many of these things that I
Steve Austin
forgot I did, and they'll send them to me. So, yeah, the social media thing is really, really cool because, hell, I forgot half the shit I did. And when I get reminded of it, I sit there and watched all those segments probably 10 times each, and I loved them.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
Yeah, I know. It's entertaining, isn't it? There's something I remember sitting on an airplane, going to one of our towns, you know, and this businessman was next to me, and he asked me what I did for a living. So I told him about the wrestling. And I said, you know, I look at people like my sister. She's a teacher. You know, she works with little kids, second and third graders. And when she walks through town, she meets all these teenagers and people that remember her when she was a teacher. And she does something so important. And I don't do anything important. You know, I fall down for a living. I make people laugh, you know, whatever. I was kind of feeling a little down about what my purpose was. And he said, hey, I'm here to tell you that what you do is real important to the rest of us. And he wasn't a wrestling fan. He said, people, you know, they have hard lives, and when they finally sit down and they can tune on some kind of entertainment that they like, and I know there's a lot of wrestling fans out there. You bring them out of their doldrum, you bring them into some other place that they can enjoy and laugh and feel what you're doing, and that's really important. So he made me feel good about my job. And now, like, you're saying later on when you watch these clips, you're like, God, this stuff's entertaining. This is so fun to watch.
Steve Austin (casual commentary)
And I have fun doing that. But then on one hand, I enjoy it, but then I think, oh, man,
Steve Austin
if I could do that again, I'd do it different. But that's me being the nitpicky person that I am. So you got the appearance on March 10. Is there anything else you want to push, promote, or bring awareness to?
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
No, not really. Just, you know, be nice to your animals and go walk your damn dogs
Steve Austin
and get them spayed or neutered.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
Yeah, definitely spay and neutered. Let's not make any more of them. But, yeah, that's my big push in life. Big push, Steve. It's a big push.
Steve Austin
Big push.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
You know, get out there and walk your dog. Let them run. We got all these caged animals all over the place. So if you own one, honor the fact that they're creatures and they gotta run.
Steve Austin
You got to give them some and
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
then do a little running yourself.
Steve Austin
Yeah, yeah. Hey, it was awesome talking to you. If I get down to New Orleans, we'll have to have a cold one together to celebrate all these years.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
Absolutely. And it's been really great to see you and on Skype here and talk with you and thanks for hearing me out. Thanks for your time, Steve.
Steve Austin
Oh, thank you. I enjoyed watching you way back from days from 1986, following you off, talking with you, shooting a breeze back in the hallways and in wwf. And now the women's game has spun up and you were there paving the way for a lot of these young ladies today. So awesome.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
Well, I'm just proud to be part of it, that's all.
Steve Austin
And that's the bottom line, because I said so. Thank you.
Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
Thanks, Steve.
Steve Austin (casual commentary)
All right, everybody, give me the go home cues. I'm wrap his podcast up and ride off in sunset. Before I do that, I want to thank my guest Lisa Moretti for being on podcast once again. It's great catching up with her. Congratulations on your hall of fame. Run the wwf and the totality of your career would glow and everything else. You made it, kid. Congratulations, man. I tell you what. Prowrestlingtease.com Steveaulson has all my shares for Broken Skull Ranch. The best damn IPA on the planet is Broken Skull IPA from El Segundo
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Steve Austin
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Steve Austin
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Steve Austin
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Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
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Episode: Ivory aka Lisa Moretti PART TWO - SAS CLASSIC
Date: March 5, 2026
Host: Steve Austin
Guest: Lisa Moretti (Ivory)
In this lively, candid episode, Steve Austin reconnects with wrestling legend Lisa Moretti—better known as Ivory—to cover the winding roads of her wrestling career, from her days in GLOW through the WWF/WWE, all the way to her Hall of Fame induction. The conversation, filled with behind-the-scenes stories and thick with old-school wrestling camaraderie, highlights Ivory's journey as both an in-ring performer and industry trailblazer, her transition through various wrestling eras, and her reflections on the evolution of women’s wrestling.
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The conversation is down-to-earth, with plenty of humor, honesty, and glimpses behind the curtain of wrestling’s golden (and not-so-golden) eras. Lisa’s voice is candid, humble, and passionate about wrestling as a craft—not just a spectacle—while Steve Austin brings his trademark wit, respect, and genuine curiosity as both an old friend and fan.
If you missed the episode, you’ll get a vivid sense of Ivory’s journey, the shifting tides of women’s wrestling, backstage realities of the Attitude Era, and the bittersweet thrills of a lifelong pro-wrestling career. Whether you love wrestling, women’s sports history, or just great storytelling, this candid conversation brims with colorful anecdotes, hard-earned wisdom, and a celebration of the unsung grind behind wrestling glory.