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Dake Kang, Yael Grauer, and their colleagues at the Associated Press just won a Pulitzer Prize for International Reporting for investigating how Silicon Valley companies collaborated with the Chinese government to create a surveillance state. In this conversation with host Daniel Spielberger, Kang and Grauer go in depth about what their reporting found and discuss the dynamic of shedding light on this surveillance technology. In addition, Grauer discusses what it was like to win this prestigious award as a freelancer.

Read the investigation: https://apnews.com/article/chinese-surveillance-silicon-valley-uyghurs-tech-xinjiang-8e000601dadb6aea230f18170ed54e88

Keep up with Yael's work: https://yaelwrites.com/

Follow Dake on X: https://x.com/dakekang

Music by KT The Terrible