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#748 - Do Humans Have Free Will? Genetics, Destiny, and the Limits of Choice
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Do humans have free will? Do we have free will? This is the, one of the core questions that everybody has to come to grips with. I think it's both a simple and a complex question and answer. And that's the reason why, like Sigmund Freud says in civilization is discontent. Oftentimes the reason there's no simple answer is because it's impossible to fully answer. Right. He was asked, you know, what's the purpose of life? And he said the reason there's so many theories is probably there isn't an exact answer. Now with free will there's been tremendous philosopher debate, polarity, different philosophers saying this, Aristotle saying this. I think, and I'm gonna go so far, I'm on my way to the farm here, so I'm gonna give you a farmer simple answer. I think it could be as simple as this. When we look at heritability genetically of something, let's say IQ, IQ is probably, let's say somewhere between 60 to 70% or 0.6.7 to 0.7 heritability. That means if you take a group of people, a thousand people, you can explain 60% or 70% of that group's IQ by who their parents were and grandparents were their genetics, not their environment. You can explain the other 40% of that group of a thousand by, you know, did they get enough food growing up, how was their education, were they stimulated mentally as they were growing up, and so on and so forth. So we can see that the genetic part is the non free will part. You're genetically limited me and you are probably not going to surpass Sir Isaac Newton, Stephen Hawking or Albert Einstein when it comes to raw iq, right? And so everybody is okay with that concept. It's kind of funny, you know, everybody knows it. Something like your eye color is a hundred percent genetic, meaning environment has almost nothing to do with it. There's almost no free will about your eyesight, eye color, I should say eyesight somewhat too. If we look at how strong you could be, big Rome, if you followed my social media for years, you know, big Romies, six foot six, that's about 200 centimeters anyways, I think. 325 pounds. So that's 150 kilos. Now we would probably all agree that.066.7 of heritability, non free will genetics contributed to him being such a strong guy. It's not just that he ate more food, food, more protein than you and I, right? So there's height, has a free will and a not mostly non free will. Element to it. Right. There's some things you could do, obviously, if you stunt your growth by not eating any food or very minimal food, very minimal protein malnourished, you could be stunted. Big Rome might be a midget if that had happened to a. But in general, in that case, the free will can only move you downwards. Free will can't really move your IQ up to Albert Einstein level. Free will can't really move your height up to Shaquille o' Neal or Big Rome. And so as we look through life, there's other things that have very low genetic heritability. I'm driving, I'm in a car right now. If you are in a car crash going 100 miles an hour and you break a lot of bones in your body, that is, you know, if a thousand people get in a car crash at 100 miles an hour, the fact that they break their bones is relatively low heritability. It's not something you inherited. Now, it's maybe not the best analogy because there's. There is heritability on how much, let's say, resilience. Your body can handle probably some level of bone density and things like that. But in general, there are things that we say are very much outside of the realm of genetics. Right. And I would say those are the free will things. So one of the problems with social media, I was listening to a guy who is generally smart, he was talking about, you've probably seen him, he was on my podcast once and he was saying, you know, women tend to want these three things in guys. Kindness, I think he was gonna say, and maybe make more money than her and taller than her or something bigger than her. The problem with that, I was thinking is that whenever you see these big sweeping generalizations, once again, people are forgetting about the non free will genetic part. It's in the. So, for example, whether a woman really finds kindness attractive is going to be partly genetic. There are women. Think about our ancestors. I was, I was reading and listening to the story of Genghis Khan, you know, the Mongol emperor who basically was the greatest conqueror of all time. In fact, something like, you know, 6 to 8% of all Asians are related to him. I've heard Some people say 1% of the world is relating to Genghis Khan. Well, if a woman was a daughter of Genghis Khan, she may have inherited the genetics that she doesn't care so much about. Kindness. The technical, scientific word for kindness is agreeableness. So these broad, sweeping social media posts that are going around, women's body count. You know, can women pair bond in the modern world? Whether, you know, depression, anxiety, we're forgetting about the non free will genetic part of it. And people don't want to talk about that. And it's the least popular thing. Whenever I go to give an entrepreneur conference, I mean, it just deadens the crowd. If I want to let the crowd down, I start talking about non free will and genetics. I mean, it's just entrepreneurs became entrepreneurs because they feel that they can alone can change the world. They're the master of their environment, which hey all, you know, my hat's off to you in the sense that I'm an entrepreneur too. And I have seen that some people overestimate the non free will part and they give up too easy. And they say, well, I don't have good genes for this and that. But I've also seen the extreme the other way or people are like, I can do anything. And I'm like, no, you can't. And so I think one of the most important things whenever you hear this free will discussion is to remember the, you know, anxious. I think it's Marcus Aurelius, the stoic line of thought, which was amor fati, which essentially translates love your fate. Or I would say love the non free will part of your life. You know, I saw an interesting study that around 2012, 2013, women's, especially teenage girls, happiness just plummeted like a hockey stick on a graph. And part of that was just now you're seeing the top millionth of 1% beautiful men and women on Instagram and you're going to look in the mirror and realizing you don't have those genetics, destiny, fate, non free will, you know, didn't give it to you. And you can't even change your free will. You can't just make yourself the best looking person on the world. People are trying to do looks maxing and of course cosmetic surgeries gone crazy. Even though in general most people look worse by doing it. Right. So in general you have a constraint and what I want to throw at you, one of the kind of, one of the points of this episode is that if I was designing a world, I would want a world where there was some things in my control, free will and some things not fate, destiny, because without it you'll go insane. Right? I, I've already pushed to the brink, you know, I'm a mad scientist. I've already pushed myself to a, a level of maybe a bit of insanity in the sense that if I think I can do Everything, then all life becomes a game of fear, of missing out. Because if you could truly do anything, control anything, everything's in your grasp. Just push yourself harder. You'll never stop. You, you, you'd be like, okay, I can be. Oh, great. Theoretically, I can be the best looking man on earth if I just do what. I can be as strong as big Rome. I could be as tall as Shaquille O'. Neal. I just got to eat 10 times more. I think you would drive yourself like Friedrich Nietzsche, the philosopher. You'll end up dancing with a horse like he did. And I probably had a brain tumor, they think, or syphilis. It just pushes you to this brink where you're. And of course he was less of a predestination guy. He was more of a free will guy. You know, he had this concept of the ubermensch, the superman, the person who conquers. But I think, you know, I'm sure that back then they didn't understand genetics like we do now that we've sequenced it, broken down the DNA strands that make up our genetics. They didn't understand that at all. It's hard for people to understand. I was reading a book on tuberculosis. It's called. The book's interesting books called Everything is Tuberculosis. Tuberculosis is essentially the disease that's killed the most people. And it's been around forever in all types of people. And it doesn't just, you know, things like cholera tend to disproportionately affect poor people, right? So tuberculosis, you know, they found it in the, the little pock marks in the bones that are evidence of tuberculosis. They found this in ancient Chinese, you know, when they've, when they've gotten mummies from Egypt or when they, I think King cut maybe they thought had what they call consumption, had various diseases in names. But people don't understand 1800s, 1900s, people had no idea what this stuff was. In fact, I read another book by a great buffon on cholera. It's the story of basically a cholera outbreak in the 18. I think it was the 1800s in London, central London. Maybe it was the 1717. There was multiple cholera outbreaks. But it was all from this broad street water pump where a lot of people got their water, which had been probably infected by humid sewage which contained a lot of these choleras from bacteria that spreads in the stomach, makes you have massive diarrhea. I mean, back then they didn't, they thought it was. They came from malignant air. They. The causation correlation wasn't understood. So they thought Air was bad, so you get cholera. So anyway, my point being is these philosophers, even some of the greatest thinkers of all time, they didn't understand what we now understand about genetics. I mean, the only good thing really about the model world, I mean, there's a couple good things about the model world, but we can really understand some of these hard questions like free will versus non free will or pre. I call a predestination, if you want to use a religious term. Right. So just as we look around ourselves and in a common sense way, understand that an oak tree can grow bigger than a locust tree, on my farm I have, you know, honey locust treats, they just can't get as big as an oak tree. You let an oak tree, you know, a white oak, grow long enough in the right spot without competition from other trees. There was a. There was an oak tree on my farm. It got hit by lightning recently. And I mean, it was probably from the 1700s. It. There's not one honing locust on earth that could be that size. Plenty. Locust doesn't have the genes to grow that big. They call that. You know, in cattle you have different types, body types. So you have like the really small frame cattle, which is more like Angus, things like that. And then you have the large Frank, you know, the Charolais, things like this. And genetics determines how quickly the animal frames up with bones and stops growing taller. So you got the large framed animals, like I said, like a Charolais. The white cows, they're kind of pure white, are called continental breeds from Europe, I think they come from Italy, I think, Dina, all these huge cows. And then you have these little teeny cows, you know, and Dutch belted these little cows, these. And that just comes pure from the blueprint that's in their DNA. Nothing they can do. The DNA is not there. I don't have the DNA to understand the universe, you know, or gravity or calculus, like Sir Isaac Newton. So I, I think that it becomes obvious that the confusing thing about life is simply that there's this interplay that everybody has to kind of figure out and comes to grips with. And I think a lot of people don't come to grips with it. I think the world really bifurcates into the masses of people which I think give up too easy. They say, well, I just can't make a lot of money. And I'm just kind of predestined to be locked into this socioeconomic, you know, place it. And when bad things happen to me, that is going to happen there's not much you can do. Like this is what's to be expected. And your life's gonna kind of suck, you know, you live, you suck. Yeah, Die. That's kind of, you know, the Eastern European mentality. Right. So. And I understand why, you know, I have to study Eastern European history. It's one of the toughest histories in modern times. Not just Stalin, but I mean, you know, Eastern Europe's been plagued by tough. You had Catherine the Great. Yeah, and Ivan the Terrible before Catherine the Great. These are tough places to live. Even Peter the Great. I was, I was reading about Peter the Great. You know, he was, he was considered the guy who kind of westernized Russia, you know, the great leader. But I mean, he was, he said his whole life he's been able to master everything except himself as massive alcoholic. Used to go on three, four day binges, used to force his, his friends and other lords to drink and do debauchery and, you know, weird sexual stuff on three day benders and stuff like this. And so, you know, Eastern Europe, I understand why they're, they're, they're not so much in free will or. America is the land of free will where, you know, this is where you came, where, you know everything. By the way, there's a genetic component to that. Because even within this question of free will, we could say genetically, once you understand what's called ess, evolutionary stable systems that, that God slash. Nature disperses genes in a weighted average. So you get a certain amount of introverts, a certain amount of extroverts, a certain amount of narcissists, a certain amount of psychopaths, and it becomes evolutionary stable. They call this, you know, hawks and doves, tit for tat. Game theory. When there's too many psychopaths, they all start to kill each other. And when there's no psychopaths, that leaves room for one person to become an exploitative psychopath. Jack the Ripper, for example, I saw an interesting study. They think they found who the real Jack the Ripper was. Forget the, the whole story, but it's interesting. They're using DNA sequencing to kind of find him, but there wasn't as many psychopaths at that time in London, so he could hide easily. So anyway, you have this weighted kind of distribution pattern. And so it makes sense that even within this question of is there a free will? That there will be people that through the lens of their mind are sure everything's free Will be America style. You can do anything if you put your mind to it. And yet it would make sense in. On this Earth, in an evolutionary stable system, you'd have a group of people to call it culture. But it's probably a distributed, you know, the hive mind, the mind of God, nature. I like if you read Brief History of Time by Stephen Hawking, he says if we can understand the purpose of the universe, then we will know the mind of God. He was kind of saying, even though he didn't believe in a God like the average person would, what he was trying to say is the unfolding of what we see in the universe that is the mind of God. What what is on this planet? So what do we see? We see mass distributions. We. And. And because humans have free will in a sense, but not totally on migration patterns. What Dr. David Buss told me he found, he did some studies that people who migrate are higher in testosterone, which makes sense risk taking and testosterone free testosterone levels are, you know, highly correlated. We could even say maybe causative, that high testosterone maybe goes beyond correlation into causation. So that you know what he found. He studied people who grew up in Mediterranean islands, let's say, you know, Sicily or whatever, Crete or something like this. That these people who stayed on the mainland their whole life were lower testosterone than the people who migrated into the bigger cities like Rome, the mainland. So that's what I'm saying. Even the que. You could argue not to get too complex here. You could argue, you know, that America is the land of dreams. Where and I would say, by the way, growing up in Southern California, I think the most optimistic place on earth, Los Angeles, without a doubt. But is it free will that people might agree to Los Angeles? Or is it the people who were predestined genetically to have a different hormonal component to their psyche, meaning higher and maybe serotonin, or lower in serotonin. Serotonin makes you want to conform to a group, fit into a group. You know, America certainly is not as high. Dr. Helen Fisher, some say the, you know, number one expert on that. She's a cultural anthropologist, evolutionary biologist. She's the chief scientist for Tinder and Match. She told me places like Denmark and her experience, I'm not sure what research she did this, but I remember on a phone call with her, she said, there's no place like Denmark. She's like, Denmark's the highest serotonin group. It's almost the absolute opposite of America. Which brings us to bigger questions, like the dialectical questions, you know, like Karl Marx, the communist. And he said that, you know, all of life essentially can be all of history at a mass level, at a bird's eye view can be understood through this class warfare. It's been the proletariat versus the bourgeois kind of thing. You know, bourgeois, the rich people and proletariat's the working man. That's been exploited ever since before the industrial age. You know, whether it would be the Romans, you know, they had the plebs and all this, this kind of things and whether you had Nero and, and these emperors that just were so out of touch and had all the wealth and while Rome was burning, you know, Rome was falling apart. By the way, if you want to go deep on that, there's a lot of genetics in these Caesars, you know, Caesar, Julius Caesar, Augustus. These were related by the way. That's why at one point in human history they tended to not believe in democracy. Kind of in the enlightenment time, 15, 16, 1700s. One of the arguments, you see this around the time of Napoleon, you know, the late 1700s, corresponding time to American resolution, you of course had the French Revolution, which was really the precursor for American concept of the human rights and all this and democracy. And. But the big argument was, you know, the English were like, no, it's better to have genetically stable families that intermarry. That's a better sister system than just having everybody can just through free will become the president or the this or the that. And, and that was a big argument even in Roman times where they said no, it's better to keep it in the family because they understood genetics. So going back to Karl Marx, you know, who kind of said no, there's, there's not. I mean, I would say Karl Marx goes in the pessimistic worldview, right? So it's kind of like all life can be explained by this exploitative economic system where the few take advantage of the many. And I think of course he didn't understand genetics again, that even in an evolutionary stable system, ess, guess what you're going to have, you're going to have some people that have higher levels of acquisitiveness, which would be, some people would call that greed. You know, some people have higher levels of narcissism. So they want to be respected, that's, they want to be a leader. But there, but there's, but nature or the mind of God, or God disperse people to have different levels of narcissism. Narcissism by the way, is almost as heritable or genetic or non free will as height. So when you see somebody Who's a narcissist. You know, don't go too hard on them because yes, they could change with free will, but it's a pretty strong. There's a lot of things going on at the given frame. For example, people who have npd, Narcissistic personality disorder, now that we have more advanced FMRI machines, kind of a brain scan, functional magnetic resonance imaging, you know, they can see the pre, the medium prefrontal cortex and they can see that narcissists are actually missing gray matter in their brain. So it's kind of like a one legged dude. Genetically, somebody's born with one leg. You're not gonna tell them to just work harder to play pro soccer with her. You know, Messi and Ronaldo, it's just not, it's not in the cards man, because the genes aren't there. There's a you some people call a handicap narcissist extreme narcissists are actually missing gray matter, they're missing tissue, they're missing something at a center cellular level to give them the ability to see things from other people's viewpoints or to be non exploitative. I mean narcissism is a dark triad thing. So it's kind of considered, it falls under this scope of exploitative traits, whether it be Machiavellian, sadistic, psychopathic, you know, all of these exploitative traits are essentially can boil down to people missing gray matter. Now does that mean that I think there's no free will can be exercised? No, like I said and that's what I was trying to bring across narcissism, not 100% genetic. It's not like eye color. Now eye color for example, it would be totally unfair ethically for there to be prison time if you had a certain eye color. Right. I think everybody would find that extremely un. Unjust. Why? Because there's no free will scientifically and common sense to your eye color. You just got it debut my abroad. Some of my brothers or one of my brothers has blue green eyes. You know, it's just we have a different dad, he's a half brother and his dad had blue eyes. And my dad has dark eyes and my mom has dark eyes. So guess what? You know, it's not that he's more virtuous or less virtuous. And so but I think you gotta think deeper. It's. You gotta think about your own life, you gotta think about your own children, you gotta think about who you're dating. You have to think about the politics, you have to think about Law, you have to think about your ability to forgive or not forgive. See, these. Go back to these deeper questions of do we have free will? Because if we had 100% free will, and anything and everything people do bad to you is pure evil, because they could fully control themselves, yet they still did something to you. But the second you realize, you know, I mean, think about a lion, let's go extra human here. Let's go outside the realm. I think when I do this, sometimes people think it's weird, but I think it's weird to not do this. If you. And by the way, I'm talking, whether you're listening to this as an atheist or as a Christian or highly religious person, if you're an atheist, you believe the mind of God, as Stephen Faulking called it, or the universe or nature, you know, has led us through this evolutionary chain to have multiple species of mammals, not just humans. I mean, you know, the atheists argue, well, humans started out as mammals who laid eggs. I feel, well, what. That's impossible. No platypus. You know, atheists say the last remnants of this time were humans or the proto, the pre humans. They say, we're, you know, atheists, evolution, evolutionary. People say we're kind of like this rat species, this female, and, you know, she laid eggs. And there was a reason. They weren't necessarily hard eggs, they were leathery eggs. This kept dehydration, desiccation from happening. But yet. And there's still proof of that in the sense that you have platypus, which is a mammal, which nurses, yet simultaneously, you know, lace eggs anyway. But a religious person would say the same thing in that there aren't just humans on Earth. If you're a Christian, you believe in the beginning, you know, God created heavens, earth, and then he made plants and animals and then man, you know, and then rested. And so when we think about free will, would we put a lion. Would we fault a lion and say it's morally reprehensible that a lion finds a handicapped. A disabled, you know, big Bach or Dick Dick or antelope or, you know, gazelle on the African Serengeti, Would we say, oh, yeah, well, this is obviously, you know, morally reprehensible. This thing should think about its actions and this lion should go, I'm gonna cause pain. No, but these DNA blueprint, literally, like a blueprint, like you're building a house or the sketch of a car before Tesla manufacture, you know, the. The factory. Tesla's factory in Texas, I think. I don't know if it's the biggest factory in the world, but it's one of the biggest ever built, you know, they're building it according to a blueprint so that every Tesla comes out the same. That Tesla doesn't have free will. So, you know, a lion, an elephant, a fight. Or what about mosquitoes? You know, if you're. I think it was Darwin who said. Was it Darwin or one of the atheists? Well, there's one thing I know about God is he likes beetles because there's so many species of beetles on Earth. One thing we know about God, God really loves beetles. That was his tongue in cheek jest at creationists. But whatever you believe, my point is we understand that a lion has limited free will and that it's, it's built to kill and to kill ruthlessly. You know, now I'm not excusing and saying, oh, Ted Bunny Bundy, the psychopathic serial killer should just be dismissed because, oh, he's like a lion. That's not at all what I'm saying. You can, you can straddle. That's why I said, I think the answer on the free will versus, you know, genetics question is you have to straddle. You got one foot on one side, one foot another, and a lot of people don't like that. It's one of the hardest things to do. But I'll tell you those, you want to get real wealthy in the, in the great book, one of the classic books on wealth, which is called the Self Made Billionaire Effect, which is a real attempt at the science of, you know, wealth at the extreme level. The billionaires, they found one of the interesting personality types was the ability to hold opposing ideas, to straddle one foot in one side, one foot in the other, seemingly opposing ideas. It's almost like you should be able to debate yourself in your own brain. And that's the mark of, really, in this case, the mind of the wealthy. But I would say it's also the mind of the, the intelligent. You know, the masses of people want to take one foot and say, no, we can do. We're responsible for everything we do and we're responsible. Anything that happens to us. And anything. You know, my mom used to say, or maybe my mom was repeating something she read. You know, everything that happens to us is our fault. All. But I, I've heard different people say that. I see that in books, you know, I see kind of, it's kind of modern pop psychology. It's, it's, it goes, I think it's, it's Even a little bit. Going back to the Stoics. Ryan Holiday writes a lot about the Stoics, but the Marcus Aurelius and you know, you have these different schools, that Pecurian, that Basettis, all these different kind of Roman, Greek thinkers. And one of them is like, I can't stop what happens to me, but I can stop how it affects me. And, and I've always kind of been like, ah, I like, I like where you're going there. I like the feeling that I could be completely impervious to what happens to me. But I'm not sure it's accurate. I'm not sure it's right. I mean, you. One way you can test any theory is you can argue ad absurdum. So you take it to the absurd. Like if you put my hand over in boiling water and I yell in pain, are you saying, you know, are the Epicureans saying that's my free will? I didn't have to yell. I don't think so. If you study the Hanoi Hilton, which is, you know, one of the torture prison camps in the Vietnam War that the North Korea, the North Vietnamese, you know, held guys like John McCain and others, there was a, there's a, there was a saying when they said, everybody breaks, baby. Some people take an hour, some people take 10 seconds. But 100 of the American soldiers break because everybody, nobody can withstand torture. So this kind of thought, it's, you don't have free will. You could love your country, you could love America. Could not want to give out the secrets. But, you know, somebody knows how to torture you with enough pain. We are creatures that does don't have free will. We will yell out if you stick our hand and boiling water. And by the way, couldn't we say that's the mind of God. Couldn't genetics be the mind of God? Couldn't the blueprint B that pain is meant to override your voluntary faculties and go into an involuntary state. I remember my grandpa's kind of a famous scientist. In hindsight, I didn't realize it growing up, but you can read about him. Martin D. Birken wrote in, you know, he published, I found something published in Nature with a Nobel prize winner. But he was kind of an eclectic scientist. Both well known, marine biologist at Yale, but also became astro physicist. And when I was a little boy, he died when I was relatively young. But he said to me, or I said to him, I said, grandpa, he had explained to me, nerves, that nerves. I think I had cut my hand or something. I go, how come I feel pain. And he goes, oh, we have these nerves that, you know, conduct essentially electricity back to our brain at the speed of light. And so we feel things. And I said, well, why don't we just find a way to turn off our nerves? Or wouldn't it be better to be born without nerves? I was about six, you know, I was trying, I didn't realize I was kind of saying, no, I want free will over my life. I don't want to feel pain if I don't want to. And he said, no, that's what leprosy is. You know, I've been in a leprosy colony in India when I was a teenager on a church mission trip. I don't even know what danger I was in, you know, the leprosy, somewhat contagious. I luckily didn't get it. But anyway, point being he was saying, ty, no, that's what lepers have. They lose their nerves and they, they end up burning their hand on the fire because they put their hand down. They end up, you know, a lot of them are now it's part of it. You have like a wasting away, but you cut yourself without knowing. It's like without nerves really die. We wouldn't be able to protect ourselves. So this involuntary non free will part of our life is actually protective. That's the weird, that's the counterintuitive thing, you know. So people want to teach their kids, you can do anything. You could be anything you want to be. You, you got all the free will in the world, but they're just scrambling their brains. Most of human history, nobody said that. Nobody said to their kids, you could be anything you want to be. In fact, if you go back far enough in, let's say the, you know, what, what we now call India, but this part of the world, which is, you know, pretty old culture. When you look at the caste system, the, the caste system which evolved over time, they think at first it wasn't, you weren't born into caste system, but you fell into one by your behavior. You know, whether you're an untouchable or in the warrior class or the merchant or all this stuff. But the interesting part of this was that they were acknowledging that, you know, there's kind of a, a mor, you have to embrace your fate. Now. I'm not into the caste system. I'm too American for that. You know, I, I, I was born with a set of immigrant grandparents. You know, my grandpa came from Spain. One of my grandmas came from Puerto Rico. On my other side, my Mom's side came from Germany, and they were the north European side. And they. So I got these migrants or immigrants that came to America, and they were the higher testosterone ones, the more free will ones, right? So that's why I said, I'm not into the caste system, but I understand it as I get older that. That there is a peace and simplicity from knowing how you fit in the world. Right? So I think to me, you got to find that happy medium. What is that culture? You know, I'm trying to think what then you'll find, by the way, what the perfect culture in the world to live in. I mean, Amish have a pretty good. I asked Chatgpt, what if you could live at any time, at any point in history, what would be the greatest time to live and the greatest culture to live in? It said, number one, Amish, number two, Scandinavia. Number three, pride Roman Empire under Augustus Caesar, pox rumor for a couple hundred years. But the AMISH from the 1500s, they kind of have a group where you don't have free will. Like, they all wear the same clothes. You're kind of required to. You can't just dress however you want. They don't want you exercising free will because to them, it leads to narcissism, vanity and competition. Same reason schools, a lot of prep schools or the military has everybody wear a uniform because you. You get rid of the free will element where people have to wake up and think, how do I dress? And, you know, the poor kid in school feels bad because he can't afford the stuff that the rich one can. So there's an example where you can see that taking out the free will, like the Amish, can actually improve the situation. But the Amish within, they're not communists. So every Amish guy has a lot of leeway and free will. They don't. They don't have arranged marriages. People get to pick who they want to marry. Men and women, you know, they get. You do not don't have to do a certain job. There's people who are carpenters and people are, you know, dairy farmers. And there are people who are let, you know, make leather harnesses for horses and do welding and all these and everything in between. And you see this in Scandinavia, there's a level of conformity. Conformity, right. Higher taxes, which I don't particularly love, but I'm just saying they've been able to make it work. Taxes to me are like, non free will. It's like, ah, we're gonna take from you and you got nothing you can do about it, really. Right. Whereas America has, you know, is kind of free for all. And so Mary, you know, look, the real answer, because sometimes people go, what's better? Well, I like what, what Dr. Buss always taught me, you know, is that there's, there's don't think so much in what's better. Think of trade offs, you know. So I was like, okay, if you're Amish, the trade off is you get a zero divorce rate, 500, less anxiety, essentially, you know, almost no abuse. I've, I've been around Amish, I have a farm and I live with Amish for two and a half years. I know their, their dialect. I know Pennsylvania Dutch at least enough to get around. And I can tell you I've never seen like a bad household, a mean dad. I've never seen Amish husband and wife fight. It's crazy, right? So there's trade offs. You know, you might have to, you couldn't dress up in Versace and you know, wear a bikini, but you get a lot of other things. So you just, you pick your poison a little bit in this world. You know, at some level we have enough free will that you can pick which society you want to live in. Do you want to live in? Do you want to embrace everything about the American way, which is pretty much everybody, anybody can do anything they want. Out of that chaos, though, comes great creativity. The US has, you know, really is the most creative business environment. Although Scandinavia is getting up there, you got, but, but nothing's truly yet like the American system. Now, by the way, you can argue part of what makes America great is it's great at marketing and therefore it attracts the highest IQ people. And for sure, IQ is associated with things like wealth building, creativity, ability to scale and all that. So I mean, America is in many ways a marketing game which attracts the sharpest people. And not just, you know, this whole H1B feeder, H1B, whatever it's called, visa argument. You see on X where Elon Musk and Vivek are arguing about this and whether it's better in the, in the maga. America, you know, that want America first. Hate that, you know, letting in foreigners to work. But I'm going longer than that. I'm saying for the last 300 years, America's attracted a lot of the most intelligent people. You saw that during World War II. You saw, you know, there was immigration, people like Albert Einstein ended up coming and teaching in America. Well, left Germany, you see that with, you know, a lot of the nuclear People and left, you know, Netherlands and came to the US Is a. So America in some ways still comes down to, to non free will, things like IQ and genetics. So I, I think, you know, I'll tell you something that I think is one of the most profound thoughts I've ever had in my life. And it sounds so simple that you will. Not necessarily. It doesn't strike somebody as profound until you understand what it really means, the implications, which is, you know, that the purpose of life is to max out your genetic potential. But in that phrase, it inherently, you can infer from it that there's a genetic non free will component to it and that there also is free will. So you have to know your genetic makeup, the pros and the cons of your set of genes, and then you got to use your free will to max that out. I, I literally think, not to call myself profound, but that's not what I mean by. But I, I think that is the simple, yet layered, like an onion. You can keep peeling that back. What does that really mean? You can go back to holographic theory, which is the current, you know, kind of physicists, quantum physicists, understanding of this universe, that the universe is this basically a 3D projection of 2D information, almost like a page of a book. You know, the, the black hole theory, where you have, you know, our Stephen Hawking, you know, saying that at the boundary of, of these black holes you have this, like, that's where the 2D information sits. And out of that is almost like the blueprint for the universe. And where this universe is like a 3D. It's, it's not exactly like simulation theory, which is another theory. It's called hologram theory. Okay. And so that, by the way, that theory, once again, it's, it's a lot like genetics. It's almost as if the world, the universe or the universe beyond the multiverse has a set of, of information, slash knowledge, slash code, slash blueprint to it. And so there are things just unfolding in this universe that were predestined, preordained to happen outside of the control. I mean, where humans came from. If you believe in the Big Bang as outside of our control, if you believe, you know, Jesus and God spoke this universe into existence in six days. It's still out of your control. So it always brings you back to that great serenity prayer, you know, which is, what is it, God, Grant me the. How does it go? Grant me the peace or whatever to endure the things I can't change and the courage to Change the things that I can and the wisdom to know that difference that is. And I butchered it a little bit. That's. You know, the Alcoholics Anonymous adopted that. But I actually think the guy, I think I, I could be wrong on this. I think the guy who invented the Serenity prayer, wasn't he a slave trader? Later turned into a preacher? I forget. But you don't pick your parents now do you? And you don't. You don't pick your God now, do you? You know, I. I see sometimes on social media it makes me laugh. I saw a guy just do a video where he goes, you know, God, people just tell me to trust the process and, and you know, trust the process of my story and it's going to get better. And he's like, when the hell is it going to get better? He's like, it just seems to go from suffering to suffering to suffering. Anyway, it's pretty funny. He said it in a funnier way than I am, but it made me think. It's like that's, that's. That's this a more fati. You know, I play back game. I played chess. My step grandpa was a chess master. Very pretty senior, I would guess he was like a 23, 2400. He was crazy skilled. He could play multiple in his prime. He could play other chess masters blindfolded. They could see the board. He could play three of them at once without looking at the board. Incredibly hard. He was graduated. He graduated university at like 16. He's one of these prodigies. My grandma, when my grandpa died, she remarried this guy, Charles Fuchsman really is a organic chemist, specialist in peat moss. Spoke seven 14 languages. Not 17, 14. It's crazy. He's the guy. First guy I saw at a 10,000 book private library when he married my grandma, he moved from Bemiji, Minnesota. He was like, I need to move my books. And my grandma's like, you ain't moving 10,000 books into my place. So she made him rent a little office in San Diego. I used to. I went to it a couple times. It was cool. The Dewey decimal system. Anyway, what was I bringing that up? Forgot my train of thought. I'm almost where I'm gonna go, so I'm gonna end this episode. But anyway, what I was. What I was trying to say is that you know, this amor fate fati, I'm. I'm butchering it. Loving and embracing the things you can't change. I. I think, I think you gotta. I think you gotta lean into that and yet you need the wisdom to know the things you can change is a tricky one. What one thing I will tell you in general, you can change more than you think. So I, you know, as an American, I'm always going to lead a little more to the free will. But I would caution Americans to just feel like you can fix everything all the time. And I don't. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not saying we should be fatalistic and oh, well, all these kids are dying in tuberculosis, you know, So I guess, I guess we just let him die. Embrace the fate. That's not what I mean. Once again, going back to the serenity prayer, you gotta have the wisdom to know, you know. Now, by the way, I want to do the counter argument. Like I said that book, everything is tuberculosis. If you were born in the 1200s, if what. And somebody got bubonic plague or they got cholera, they got, you know, the consumption, which is tuberculosis. It was fate. There was no possibility that you, in your lifetime were going to be able to come up with the, you know, now you can essentially fix or cure tuberculosis through four or five different antibiotics, although there's a lot of antibiotic resistance now, superbugs. But then, of course, now we have really advanced tests where they can find if the tuberculosis, which of the medications it's resistant to. But so I'm just saying if you were born in the 1200s, I think you did have to embrace your fate. I was like, one out of two kids die. It's horrible. I can't think of anything harder in our ancestors life than to have to have seven, eight kids. I mean, everybody. The amount of kids that died at certain times in history under age 5 is just mind blowing. Whether it's in London or whether it's in, you know, everywhere. Even, you know, Aztec empires, Inca, they had tuberculosis, for example, they didn't fully understand. So I, I think we must be exploring the answers yet knowing there will be constraints on us and, and that's where you got to have that serenity, you know, I'm coming out with a new app that's all about. I'm gonna. It's like a timeout unpack app when using AI but it also uses kind of this HRV Vegas nerves simulate a stimulation where you can lower your stress. I think one of the ways you lower your stress is really thinking and contemplating how can, you know, when you can fix things with your hard work, free will, and when you're just gonna have to sit back and go, man, this is, this is planned ahead, Pond. I can't pick like nothing I can do. If you can do that, then you'll know the mind of God. So good luck. Go to talobas.com follow me on insta. If you've got a business and you're doing more than a million dollars a year, go to telos.com find and book a call with me. You got to be going offshore, my friend. Taxes were getting crazy. Don't trust anyone. Government also. One good ad can make you 10 million profits. I've had it happen multiple times. So if you want me and my team build out your ads, build out your social media presence, do it for you. Go to tyler.com private book a call free. We can talk. So you got to be doing at least seven, eight figures for everybody else. Follow my free stuff. All right, Talk soon.