Podcast
The Talk Show With John Gruber
Hosted by Daring Fireball / John Gruber · EN
The director’s commentary track for Daring Fireball. Long digressions on Apple, technology, design, movies, and more.
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434: ‘Knee-Jerk Contrarian’, With Dan Frommer
Nov 1801:54:02Tap to summarizeSpecial guest Dan Frommer returns to the show. Topics include the indie media business, the iPhone Pocket, the iPhone Air (including rumors about the second generation model), AI “personalities”, and five years of Apple Silicon Macs. Also, six years of Dan’s site, The New Consumer. Sponsored by: Factor: Healthy eating, made easy. Get 50% off your first box, plus free breakfast for 1 year, with code talkshow50off. Notion: The AI workspace where teams and AI agents get more done together. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: Dan’s site: The New Consumer. Fromedome. iPhone Pocket: Apple’s announcement. My link. Recalling iPod Socks. Steve Jobs’s signature black turtlenecks. Sold out in hours. iPhone Air: WSJ: “Apple’s iPhone Air Is a Marketing Win and a Sales Flop” My response. Rumors re: the second-gen iPhone Air. Jason Snell at Six Colors, in 2022: “Find Photos Taken by Specific iPhone Lenses”. Emmanuel Clase and Luis Ortiz, Two MLB Pitchers, Charged in Gambling Investigation. Ricoh GR IIIx: A few example photos I’ve taken with mine. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
Transcribe →433: ‘Meat Bags’, With Brian Mueller
Oct 3101:27:40Tap to summarizeSpecial guest Brian Mueller, developer of Carrot Weather, joins the show to commemorate the 10th anniversary of his utterly ridiculous but totally serious weather app. Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow. Uncommon Goods: Out of the ordinary gifts. Get 15% off your next purchase. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: Carrot Weather. The rest of Brian’s Carrot suite of apps. CARROT: The Musical, on YouTube. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
Transcribe →431: ‘Iconic Pig Lipstick’, With John Moltz
Oct 101:13:04Tap to summarizeJohn Moltz returns to the show to talk about the iPhone 17 lineup: the iPhone 17 Pro and Pro Max, iPhone 17, and the no-number iPhone Air. Not one word about baseball, but some Star Wars talk may or may not have snuck in. Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow. Sentry: A real-time error monitoring and tracing platform. Get 3 months and 150,000 errors free. Factor: Get 50% off your first box, plus free breakfast for one year. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: Halide -- a great iPhone camera app with a "Technical Readout" feature that provides detailed specs regarding every camera on your phone. Techmeme's roundup of iPhones 17 reviews that actually were published on the embargo date. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
Transcribe →430: ‘Ersatz PopSocket’, With Andru Edwards
Sep 102:18:29Tap to summarizeSpecial guest Andru Edwards joins the show. Topics include Google’s Pixel 10 event and the Pixel 10 family of devices, AI’s effect on computational photography, foldable phones, and some speculation on Apple’s September 9 “Awe Dropping” event. Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow. Sentry: A real-time error monitoring and tracing platform. Get 3 months and 150,000 errors free. Notion: The best AI tool for work, with your notes, docs, and projects in one space. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: Where to find Andru: YouTube. Circuit Breaker. Geared Up. Yours truly on Geared Up, earlier this year. Threads. Google’s Pixel 10 family comparison page (copying Apple’s longstanding “Compare” pages to a T). Google’s Pixelsnap compatibility / support page. “Awe Dropping” Apple event: Tuesday 9 Sept. Me being snarky about foldable phone sales on Threads. Adobe’s Project Indigo — a free expert camera app for iPhone, spearheaded by Marc Levoy, who was previously at Google on the Pixel camera team. iPhone 4 bumper cases. Majin Bu’s leaked reveal of Apple’s supposed Crossbody Strap for the iPhones 17. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
Transcribe →429: ‘Weird Turtle Fake Out’, With Matthew Panzarino
Aug 2602:13:44Tap to summarizeMatthew Panzarino returns to the show. Topics include 007 logo creator Joe Caroff’s death at 103, Google’s weird “Made by Google” event hosted by Jimmy Fallon, the UK supposedly dropping its demand for an iCloud encryption backdoor, and Apple’s workaround for the Apple Watch blood oxygen sensor patent stalemate. Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow. Sentry: A real-time error monitoring and tracing platform. Get 3 months and 150,000 errors free. Factor: Healthy eating, made easy. Get 50% off plus free shipping on your first box. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: The Obsessor — Matthew’s excellent still-pretty-new blog. Joe Caroff, Designer of the James Bond 007 Logo, Dies at 103. Jeff Bezos Reportedly “Obsessed” With Casting Wife Lauren Sánchez In Major Role In Amazon MGM’s New “James Bond”. Victoria Song: “The Made by Google event felt like being sucked into an episode of Wandavision”. Tulsi Gabbard Says the U.K. Government Has Backed Down From Its Demand for an iCloud Backdoor. Biden Justice Department downplayed UK demand for an iCloud backdoor. Apple Issues a Workaround for the Blood Oxygen Sensor Ban for U.S. Apple Watches. Masimo Sues US Customs Over Ruling Permitting Apple’s Patent Workaround. “John Oliver Talks T-Shirt Cannons and Slashfics as He Hosts the 2012 Crunchies”. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
Transcribe →428: ‘Michigan-Starred Fine Dining’, With Louie Mantia
Jul 31, 202503:05:39Tap to summarizeSpecial guest Louie Mantia joins the show to talk about Liquid Glass, the various OS 26 updates, and the worrisome state of Apple’s UI design overall. Also: sandwiches. Sponsored by: Quip: A supercharged clipboard manager and text expander for Mac, iPhone, and iPad. Notion: The best AI tool for work, with your notes, docs, and projects in one space. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: Louie’s personal website, chock full of downloadable wallpapers, icons, and more. Louie, on Alan Dye: “A Responsibility to the Industry”. Louie on Mastodon. Parakeet, Louie’s design partnership with Luka Grafera. Steve Jobs introducing the new icon for iTunes that Louie made (the best iTunes icon ever). Daring Fireball: “Sorry, MacOS Tahoe Beta 2 Still Does the Finder Icon Dirty” (with links, at the bottom, to Louie’s mockup of how Liquid Glass versions of the Finder icon should look). My polls on light/dark mode preferences on your phone: Mastodon and Threads. NeXTStep’s GUI and icons, including the realistic “folders” and super-detailed “home” with shrubbery and a tree in front of the house (and another collection just of NeXTStep’s icons). Redweld — Makers of the iconic (no pun intended) expandable files that NeXT’s folder icons were based on. The wonderfully skeuomorphic original interfaces for Apple’s iPhone Voice Memos and Podcasts apps. A July 1986 draft of the original Human Interface Guidelines (PDF) from Apple, including a brief section on “Perceived Stability” (followed by a section on “See-and-Point versus Remember-and-Type”). This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
Transcribe →427: ‘The Shift-2 Crowd’, With Jason Snell
Jul 25, 202502:12:15Tap to summarizeJason Snell returns to the show to talk about the early PC platform rivalries of the 1980s, iOS 26 leaks (and Apple suing YouTuber Jon Prosser), the various Apple OS 26 public betas and the state of Liquid Glass, and more. (Where by “more” I mean a little baseball and keyboard nerdery.) Sponsored by: Factor: Healthy eating, made easy. Get 50% off plus free shipping on your first box. Sentry: The real-time error monitoring and tracing platform that helps dev teams and tech companies build better, more reliable products. Use code talkshow for 3 months free and 150,000 errors. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: The MLB All-Star Game "swing-off". NuPhy Kick75 mechanical Bluetooth keyboard. The weird key layout of the Apple Keyboard (ADB). Tinkerboy’s ADB-to-USB adapter. (Email Tinkerboy if you’re interested — he has a USB-C adapter too, not listed on the website.) Jason’s keyboard and the switches inside. John on Myke Hurley’s “The State of the Workflow”. Apple sues Jon Prosser over Liquid Glass leaks. Un-redacting the redacted names in the lawsuit. Wikipedia on Think Secret and "Nick DePlume", its pseudonymous author. See also: Vintage DF coverage of Think Secret. Ray Gun magazine and designer David Carson. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
Transcribe →426: ‘The Cutting Edge Latest Supermodel’, With David Smith
Jun 30, 202502:12:15Tap to summarizeSpecial guest David Smith returns to the show for a developer's perspective look at WWDC 2025. Sponsored by: TRMNL: A hackable e-ink display. Save $15 with code GRUBER. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: Michael Flarup's mockup for a MacOS 26 Finder icon Louie Mantia's (even better) mockup for a MacOS 26 Finder icon Benedict Evans: “The Best Is the Last” Podsearch Under the Radar David-Smith.org Widgetsmith Pedometer++ Sleep++ Widgetsmith Hands-On: How Apple’s New Speech APIs Outpace Whisper for Lightning-Fast Transcription Tim Cook Reveals Apple’s Vision for Movies and TV Musk’s xAI Burns Through $1 Billion a Month as Costs Pile Up This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
Transcribe →425: ‘Through the Wall Like Kool-Aid Man’, With Chance Miller
Jun 27, 202501:44:02Tap to summarizeChance Miller returns to the show to discuss the news and announcements from WWDC 2025. Sponsored by: Factor: Healthy eating, made easy. Get 50% off plus free shipping on your first box with code talkshow50off. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow. BetterHelp: Give online therapy a try at BetterHelp and get on your way to being your best self. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: Daring Fireball: “One Week Out, Some Brief Thoughts and Observations on WWDC 2025”. WatchOS 26 finally supports once-per-second ticking seconds hands on more watch faces on Series 10. The ongoing dispute between Apple and Massimo over the blood oxygen sensors in recent Apple Watch models. May 2024: “Apple Apologizes for Controversial iPad Pro Ad, Scraps Plans for TV Campaign”. August 2024: “Apple Pulls Latest Ad After Criticism Over Depiction of Thailand”. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
Transcribe →424: ‘Live From WWDC 2025’, With Joanna Stern and Nilay Patel
Jun 14, 202502:06:04Tap to summarizeRecorded in front of a live audience at The California Theatre in San Jose Tuesday evening, special guests Joanna Stern and Nilay Patel join me to discuss Apple’s announcements at WWDC 2025. Video: This show is available to watch in 4K video on YouTube. 3D video with spatial audio: Exclusively in Sandwich Vision's Theater on Vision Pro, available on the App Store. Sponsored by: iMazing: The world’s most trusted software to transfer and save your messages, music, files, and data from your iPhone or iPad to your Mac or PC. DetailsPro: Design with SwiftUI anytime, anywhere -- on iPhone, iPad, Mac, or Apple Vision Pro. Ooni: Next-gen pizza power. The Koda 2 Pro oven features smarter heat, more room, and easier control. Save 10% with code thetalkshow. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: WWDC 2025 Keynote. Joanna’s full 24-minute interview with Craig Federighi and Greg Joswiak this week. The Verge: 28-minute supercut of the WWDC 2025 keynote and their take on the 13 biggest announcements. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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