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Welcome back to the Tower Palmieri show. It has been quite a whirlwind of a day. On Tuesday night, I went to bed hearing from a House Republican source telling me, hey, Tara, we're starting to break ranks. I don't know how we won't vote to release the Epstein files if this discharge petition is signed. And it was, you know, expected to get the 218th Signature today at 4pm and it did. Adelita Gralva, a Democrat from Arizona, was sworn in and the first thing she did was sign those that discharge petition to put the bill to release the Epstein files on the House floor. This would obviously be a very difficult position for Republicans to be in to vote against this bill. It just, it's just too difficult of a vote to take. And yet the president all summer has been whipping against this. And in the final hours before this discharge petition could be filed, he tried to get Lauren Boebert, a congresswoman from Colorado, and Nancy Mace, a congresswoman from South Carolina, both Republicans. Nancy Mace, by the way, wants to run for governor in South Carolina and, and could really use Trump's endorsement in the primary to withdraw their names from the petition. And he tried. He used all of his mob boss tactics, but they didn't cave. Nancy Mates is a survivor of sexual assault. And it's her thing, kind of like she talks about it a lot. She is an advocate for sexual assault survivors. When she met with the Epstein survivors back in September, she was visibly shaken and she left the meeting crying. And President Trump still tried because he really doesn't want what's in the Epstein files out. This morning we got a taste of it. I woke up to a leak from the House Oversight Committee. Emails from Epstein's estate that show him and Glenn Maxwell talking about the fact that President Trump was in his house for a while with a victim and that they're surprised that it hasn't come out through the chief of police, or however they're wondering why this hasn't come out. And then you have an email exchange between Michael Wolf, a journalist, and Jeffrey Epstein, in which Michael Wolf is giving Jeffrey Epstein advice for how to manipulate President Trump, how to be able to get him to condone his pedophile ring. You could say, maybe say he's a victim of, I don't know, culture, cancellation, whatever you want to call it. And by reminding Trump that he knows that he was on the plane, that he was everywhere, that he knows all about the pedophile ring. So, yeah, this is shocking. And then House Republicans say that it was Virginia Giuffre who was the victim. And the White House puts out a statement about it saying she's never said that she was with President Trump. So it's all moot. It's really upsetting because they are talking about a woman who is not alive today to talk about it, who's not alive today to explain exactly what happened. Who knows exactly what happened. I know from reporting alongside Virginia Giuffre for Broken Jeffrey Epstein, I spent a lot of time with her. There are a lot of men that she was trafficked to that she didn't write about in her book, that she never mentions, that she never talks about for a lot of reasons. It's scary. They're in power. They could come after her for defamation, like Alan Dershowitz did. And it was really stressful, tense time in her life. This is all to say that the White House was imploding today over all of this scrambling, calling these two congresswomen, trying to get them to reverse their signature. And it just shows you the state that President Trump is in his presidency. I mean, he's heading towards lame duck. You know, the midterms are your way. If the Democrats win, what more can he really do? And he's really in the final years of his last term. And also with inflation, cost of living, diving, poll numbers, I don't know how long the Republicans are going to stick with him, especially if he's tied to a global pedophile network. There is so much to break down, so much to think about today. The stonewalling, the drip, drip, drip is just not the way to handle it. We'll see what happens in a few weeks when the House votes on whether to release the Epstein files. It'll have to go to the Senate and then to President Trump's desk, and he can ultimately veto it. He is the president. But it's just going to be more news and already Republican Tim Burchett from Tennessee. He said, why don't we just vote on it now? And it was shot down from the speaker. And as we know, President Trump likes to brag, though New York Times reported this, that he likes to brag that he's both the president and the speaker. Here's another interview with Piers Morgan. I did a number of them today. I was on Piers Morgan Show. I did Don Lemon earlier. I was on Katie Ter show on MSNBC and Nicole Wallace. And I'll be on Anderson Cooper tonight talking about this story. As you all know, I've been reporting on it for many years. I knew Virginia really well and I'm also a longtime political reporter. But I'm now an independent journalist. And if you want to support my independent journalism where I report without fear or favorite, please go to tarapaulmeri.com that's T A R A P A L m e r I.com and you can sign up for my newsletter, the Red Letter, where you can get all of my exclusive reporting straight to your inbox first. And it's a great way to support my independent journalism. Take a listen here.
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Well, I'm joined now by the host of the Tara Palmeri Show, Tara Palmeri. Tara, welcome back to uncensored. What do you make of all this stuff crashing out today in these leaked emails?
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Well, Pierce, I always believed it would be a drip, drip, drip. It would always be, you know, these emails from the estate leaks whistleblowers that would tell us the full story. As you and I know, having covered this story for a very long time, the Department of Justice does not self police when it hands over documents. They're highly redacted. And that this is the way we're going to learn the full story of Jeffrey Epstein. It's going to be through putting the pieces together of his correspondence.
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You knew obviously Virginia Giuffre very well. She appears to be the redacted name that Epstein's referring to. In this already quite infamous email, she talks about the Dog that has embarked being Donald Trump. You know, she made it clear, I think, while she was alive and in her posthumous book, that Trump, as far as she's concerned, never did anything wrong. What do you read into that email in particular?
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You know, I think it's really interesting. You know, I spent a lot of time with Virginia Giuffre, and I did find her to be very open, but I also sensed that there were places that she wouldn't go or didn't want to go or had fear about going. You know, her story is very. It's a story that involved a lot of really powerful people. And I think she, because of the kind of assault she was under from the press, intimidation, people tried to break into her home, lawsuits, defamation, she was really careful about what she shared. But you're right, I mean, she said that she liked Donald Trump. He was nice, he was around Jeffrey Epstein and the girls, but she said that he was a perfectly friendly person to her. At the end of the day, I know that there are men that, that she was trafficked to that did not make it into her book, not even in the sort of blind item style way that she wrote there. You know, she was trafficked to as many as three dozen men. And you don't even know the start of it. Like, it's incredible. So I think with this story, we're just going to learn more and more. And I do think that Virginia, having seen her reputation dragged for decades, she was really careful about what she said publicly.
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I mean, do you think we're going to see a lot of high profile people actually brought to account here? Do you think this is going to lead inevitably and eventually to criminal prosecutions?
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Well, in her depositions alone, there are a lot of redacted names of men. And these men spent a lot of money and time paying lawyers and fighting in court to have their names redacted. Those names are in the Epstein files. If they are ever released or a whistleblower wants to release them, you'll see the names of men that the public has never heard before. And I think that would be really shocking because some of these people are still leaders. And it's not just leaders in finance and academia and in science, leaders in politics. And I still find it to be shocking that it's only in your country where we've really seen any justice that we've really seen anyone have to pay for their association with Jeffrey Epstein, having to step down from public life. We haven't had that yet. Even though, you know, some could argue what The US Ambassador, the UK Ambassador to the us his email connections are just as close as the ones that President Trump has and others. So it's very. It's shocking that no one's had to pay a price. And if anything, what you're going to see is the White House whipping even harder against House Republicans to vote against releasing the Epstein files in a few weeks. I had a source reach out to me last night saying that Republicans were starting to break and that they thought it would be difficult to vote against releasing the Epstein files when that happens, that they would vote yay. But it's going to. The pressure is going to be more intense on them now. I can only imagine the whip count, but I just don't know how they take this vote, especially as these emails come out. It was strategic. Democrats knew what they were doing by waiting and holding on to these emails and making it so that it would become so impossible for this party to stand behind the President on this one.
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I just don't think it's sustainable that the White House maintains a position, having taken everybody up the Hill saying, we're going to release them, we're going to be transparent, we're going to get accountability for the victims and so on. To suddenly put the shutters down and to try and maintain that position, I think is politically unsustainable. And I think there were a lot of people breaking ranks. You know, we know from the MAGA crowd how enraged they are about this. Trump has to be very careful, I think, and if I were him, I'd just release the whole lot. Just say, look, we're just gonna release everything and then let everyone gorge over the entrails of all this stuff and hopefully bring the right people to justice. Tara, I'm gonna leave it there, but thank you very much indeed for joining me.
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That was another episode of the Tara Palmieri Show. I wanna thank you all for tuning in. You can support my show by going to tarapaulmieri do and signing up for my newsletter, the Red Letter. If you become a paid subscriber, you get all of my exclusive reporting first and you can support my independent journalism. If you like this show, please rate it, subscribe, share it with all your friends. That's how you keep me in business. And of course, I want to hear from you, so leave comments. I do answer them. And please keep following me every single day. I want to thank my producer, Eric Abenate. I want to thank Abby Baker, who's handling my social media and my reporting, and Adam Stewart on the graphics. It has been a long day and it's not quite over yet. But today was a major breakthrough. So stay tuned in. There'll be more, I'm sure.