Don Lemon Arrested: A Dangerous Moment for Free Speech

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Tara Palmeri Show

Episode: Don Lemon Arrested: A Dangerous Moment for Free Speech
Date: January 30, 2026
Host: Tara Palmeri (with guest host for Don Lemon's show, Katie Fang)
Key Guests: Dr. Freda

Overview

This episode focuses on the shocking arrest of journalist Don Lemon while covering an anti-ICE protest at a church, and what it means for press freedom in America. Host Tara Palmeri and a panel of Lemon’s friends and colleagues delve into the implications for independent journalism, the chilling effect on reporters, and the broader context of government actions against the free press. The episode also explores the concurrent release of a massive trove of Epstein files, raising questions about media distraction and institutional transparency.

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Main Themes & Discussion Points

1. Immediate Reaction to Don Lemon’s Arrest

• Tara Palmeri expresses personal and professional distress over Lemon’s arrest, spotlighting free speech threats and dangers facing independent journalists.
  • “Being a journalist, we can. Anyone can be a journalist. We shouldn’t be stopped. We all have First Amendment rights.” – Tara Palmeri (01:19)
• Lemon’s strong history of mentoring independent journalists, including Palmeri herself, is emphasized.
• Concerns that journalists outside major networks lack protection (“without the corporate overlords calling the White House...this is how you bully people. This is how you silence them.”) – Tara Palmeri (01:52)

2. The Chilling Effect on Journalism

• Independent journalists face increased vulnerability: “If you can just get rounded up… we're not safe to go out and cover movements, protests, what's happening on the street…” – Tara Palmeri (07:43)
• Host and guests liken recent state tactics against journalists to authoritarian regimes, insisting that “fear is the point.” – Dr. Freda (11:17)
• Discussion of media intimidation and arbitrary force, with references to indiscriminate police actions (tear gassing journalists and protesters alike) (08:07, Guest Host).

3. Government Response & Accountability

• Dissecting the weak official response from Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche, who dodges responsibility and refuses to comment publicly:
  • “Do I have a reaction to it? I don’t know what that means. What are you looking for me to do, jump up and down?” – Blanche (06:38)
  • “Honestly, even calling him the Deputy Attorney General for the United States is an insult, because he’s actually Donald Trump’s personal lawyer.” – Tara Palmeri (07:07)
• The panel notes that old norms of power protecting ‘their own’ in the press are gone: “Corporate media doesn’t seem to really care that much about their people anymore.” – Tara Palmeri (07:43)

4. The Surveillance and Suppression of Dissent

• Expanding risks for journalists: covering a protest, once a “basic form of journalism,” now is criminalized. – Tara Palmeri (04:10)
• “It’s really, really, really startling… To think that just being present [as a journalist] would get you arrested is just like, extremely disturbing.” – Tara Palmeri (04:10)
• Guests reference how the chilling effect extends to families: “We all have to make calculated risk, especially those of us with children. I have three kids as well. But what I don’t want to happen is I don’t want them to win. I don’t want us to be quiet.” – Dr. Freda (11:26)

5. Context: The Epstein Files Dump

• A huge release of nearly 3.3 million documents adds suspicions of a strategic media distraction from Lemon’s arrest.
  • “The timing is interesting. It’s always a Friday, right? That’s when they want to take out the trash. Then you add in the unjust arrest of a journalist…” – Tara Palmeri (13:08)
  • Notable detail: new allegations surface about Bill Gates, distract from more politically dangerous revelations.
• Justice Department’s lack of follow-through on investigating powerful abusers covered in the files:
  • “If this Justice Department wanted to do the right thing, they would actually follow up on all these tips… But they refuse to.” – Tara Palmeri (13:55)
  • “This is about telling a story. This isn't about getting to the truth. This is about a narrative.” – Tara Palmeri (15:18)
• Survivors “wanted the release of the Epstein files so that they could break the nondisclosure agreements, that they could feel free to talk about the abuse they were under…” – Tara Palmeri (15:39)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the arrest’s chilling precedent:

  “Covering a protest is like one of the most basic forms of journalism… to think that just being present would get you arrested is just… extremely disturbing.”
  – Tara Palmeri (04:10)

• On institutional abandonment:

  “There’s no corporate overlords who can make a call to the White House… This is how you bully people. This is how you silence them.”
  – Tara Palmeri (01:52)

• Government sidestepping:

  “Do I have a reaction to what? To Don Lemon’s arrest overnight. Do I have a reaction to it? I don’t know what that means. What are you looking for me to do, jump up and down? No, I don’t have a reaction to it.”
  – Todd Blanche (06:38)

• Warning about the stakes for journalists:

  “The fear is the point. If journalists start feeling that their lives are in danger… then they will no longer cover the protests. And then what happened to Renee Good, what happened to Alex will be able to happen in the dark and the incidents will multiply.”
  – Dr. Freda (11:17)

• On strategic leaks and media manipulation:

  “They are strategically leaking in advance to obfuscate what is damning about President Trump… This is about telling a story. This isn’t about getting to the truth. This is about a narrative.”
  – Tara Palmeri (15:18)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Opening Reaction & Personal Reflection: 01:17
• Threat to Journalist Safety & Independence: 04:10–05:25
• Government Response (Todd Blanche soundbite): 06:32–06:54
• Evaluating the Chilling Effect & Old Media Norms: 07:16–08:41
• Broader Risks & Family Considerations: 11:07–12:26
• Epstein Files Dump & Media Strategy: 13:08–16:14
• Closing: Supporting Independent Media: 16:41

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Takeaways for New Listeners

• This episode is a pointed, urgent conversation about the new hazards of journalism in America, especially for independents in the crosshairs of power.
• The arrest of Don Lemon is positioned as both a personal and existential attack on freedom of the press.
• Strong warnings are issued about the deliberate use of fear as a silencing tool.
• The timing and handling of the Epstein files dump is held up as evidence of media distraction tactics and steps taken to shield power.
• Solidarity among independent journalists is called for, and listeners are encouraged to support free, fact-based reporting.

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Transcript

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[Tara Palmeri]

Welcome back to the Tara Palmieri Show. Today I woke up to some really disturbing news. I know you all woke up to this as well. Don Lemon, a friend who's actually been a mentor to me in the independent media space, he encouraged me to go independent. He helped me along the way. Giving me advice is like, should I get a studio or should I do it for my home? He's been so supportive to me all along the way, introducing me to his audience and. And just being a really good friend. Actually, he might not even remember this, but when I was a young news assistant, I used to give him his papers while he was anchoring and when he was working at cnn. And then when I got my first on air job at cnn, he actually, he was one of the few big anchors to have me on his show. He was actually the first one to let me sit down with him at the big table in New York and felt really great. So he's always been super supportive. But that's not the only reason why I'm very deeply upset about Don Lemon now being charged with federal civil rights crimes because he was covering a protest, an anti ice protest at a church, and he was arrested today and detained. And these are our First Amendment rights. And it's really pushing the boundaries of journalism, our ability to cover what's happening. It's a threat to independent journalists like myself because, you know, without the corporate overlords calling the White House and trying to fix things, this is how you bully people. This is how you silence them. And I think we should all be afraid. I mean, being a journalist, we can. Anyone can be a journalist. We shouldn't be stopped. We all have First Amendment rights. So please take a listen to this show. It's actually Don show being anchored by Katie Fang. It's going on throughout the night until midnight in tribute to Don. It's all of his friends coming on the show to talk about what we all experienced, why this is so disturbing. And really bringing this out to be a broader discussion about our. Our rights and how this is an infringement on the free press. So take a listen here. Would love to know what you think. Please leave your comments and of course, subscribe. That's something you can do to help independent media. Follow if you're listening to this on podcast and, you know, go to tarapaulmary.com and sign up for my newsletter, the Red Letter. It's how you can support my independent journalism. And I think, you know, just all good energy and wishes for Don Lemon. This is just definitely a step too far. And the White House is already posting memes of him as if this is a joke. Take a listen here. Emoji moment from Mark, who writes, I just want to thank you for making GLP1s affordable. What would have been over $1,000 a month is just $99 a month with Mochi. Money shouldn't be a barrier to healthy weight. Three months in and I have smaller jeans and a bigger wallet.

[Guest Host (Filling in for Don Lemon)]

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[Tara Palmeri]

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[Guest Host (Filling in for Don Lemon)]

And right now, we're going to bring in Tara Palmieri. It was actually the perfect time to talk about this, right? About the Epstein files. Tara Palmeri, thank you so much for being here. For those of you that are tuning in, I am not Don Lemon. We all know why I'm here, but I am guest filling in for Don and having these amazing panelists hang out and just friends, really. I'm not. You guys are not panels. You guys are friends. Friends of Don, friends, you guys of the Lemonheads that are here. So, Tara, I mean, first of all, your thoughts as a journalist, as somebody who's also made the leap to independent media, like we've all done lately, to be subjected to being arrested, not just criticism, right. But to be arrested for covering something as a journalist.

[Tara Palmeri]

It, It's. It was really. It's really, really, really startling. Katie. Covering a protest is like one of the most basic forms of journalism. You know, you're covering a movement. All journalists have had that experience at some point in their career where they covered an uprising and, or a movement or just a protest. It's like even in journalism school. So to think that just being present would get you arrested is just like, extremely, extremely disturbing. And it's also, I mean, okay, say I was going to interview the Taliban. You know, if you walk into that cave. My friend Steve Schmidt gave me this example, and he's right. If you walk into that cave with the Taliban, are you a collaborator of them now? You know, it's just like, are you. Because you're going into interview. It's really. It's frightening. And, you know, actually, Don encouraged me to go independent, and he gave me a lot of advice about what to do and, like, whether even little things like whether to get a studio or not. And I've really looked to him for advice and, you know, as a mentor throughout all of this, and I think that he handles himself really well. And Don is at his best when he's out of the studio, when he's on the street, when he's showing people what's going on.

[Monday.com Advertiser]

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[Tara Palmeri]

And, like, he is the eye. He's the eyes and ears of what is happening right now in the resistance movement. And so to take him away, they realize how powerful he is right now. They're not going after just anybody. They're going after him because they know that his work is really making an impact and it bothers them. He's always been. You know, Trump has always had an issue with Don Lemon, right? Whether it's his race, his political leanings, his being on cnn. He's always made it known he doesn't like Don. But, I mean, if you heard Todd blanch this morning at that. At that. If you want to call it a.

[Guest Host (Filling in for Don Lemon)]

Press club, whatever that was. Yeah, yeah.

[Tara Palmeri]

And he's asked about Don. He's like, how dare you even ask me about Don Lemon. You arrested a US Citizen because Who is exercising their First Amendment rights, and you don't have an answer for that? A very high profile US Citizen like it. It's just, what world are we living in right now? It's his insanity.

[Guest Host (Filling in for Don Lemon)]

Well, guess what? We actually have that sound right now. We're going to play it so everybody who's tuning in can understand. This is how to Blanche reacted. Let's go and hear that sound now.

[Tara Palmeri]

I don't have anything to share about that.

[Guest Host (Filling in for Don Lemon)]

And to follow up on that, do you have a reaction to the arrest.

[Tara Palmeri]

Of Don Lemon overnight?

[Monday.com Advertiser]

Do I have a reaction to what?

[Tara Palmeri]

To Don Lemon's arrest overnight. Do I have a reaction to it? I don't know what that means. What are you looking for me to do, Jump up and down? No, I don't have a reaction to it. I don't know that the charges are unsealed yet. So, no, I can't. I'm not going to comment on that.

[Dr. Freda]

Thank you.

[Guest Host (Filling in for Don Lemon)]

What a defensive, prickly little. I mean, really, he's always like that.

[Tara Palmeri]

He's such a. Well, you know what?

[Guest Host (Filling in for Don Lemon)]

But that's not an excuse, Mike, because he's Deputy Attorney General of the United States. So that's not a professional response.

[Tara Palmeri]

No, honestly. Honestly. Even calling him the Deputy Attorney General for the United States is an insult because he's Actually, Donald Trump's personal lawyer.

[Guest Host (Filling in for Don Lemon)]

That's what, he's a law lackey. But Tara, I'm sorry, I was cutting you off. You were saying.

[Tara Palmeri]

No, no, I just, I thought it was incredibly indignant. It was revolting. He's a US Citizen, Don. Prominent journalist. He rep. He really represents us. I mean, we all are independent journalists right now. And there's no corporate overlords who can make a call to the White House to say, oh no, don't, don't pick up Katie, off the street, you know, let's make a deal.

[Guest Host (Filling in for Don Lemon)]

It's, I don't really know, but like.

[Tara Palmeri]

Not, I know the corporate media doesn't seem to really care that much about their people anymore, but there was at least a time when they would at least negotiate this in some way. But this is like we're all, and not to be, you know, dramatic, but I don't think we're, that we're safe to go out and cover movements, protests, what's happening on the street if you can just get rounded up.

[Guest Host (Filling in for Don Lemon)]

And they're just indiscriminate. I want to be clear. When I went to Minneapolis and I just got back 24 hours ago, they were indiscriminately gassing journalists, protesters, children, people, anybody standing on the street. They didn't care who you were, they didn't care if you had press or anything. They were just like, it, we're just going to do it because we don't want to hear from any of you people. I actually think that we should be coming out in more numbers now instead of trying to like, you know, temper what we're doing. But I understand, Tara, the whole plan behind this is to chill us from doing stuff, from being able to respond.

[Tara Palmeri]

Yeah. I mean, the fact that you're talking about the fact that you have children, you know, and that's why you wouldn't want to go out there. You know, we should have the freedom to be able to, to document history and what's happening. And it's just, I don't know, I, I, I saw Sarah Snider struggling on the street in cnn. She's a top notch reporter covering the protest over the weekend. She's being gassed. She's like, I've never experienced anything like this. Like this is a war on the ground and, and, and the, and what the journalists that are out there have been doing. So like, Katie, thank you for going out there and, and everyone else, they, they are documenting history, documentary history for us. Like we are, you know, you're you go into a war zone and there are a lot of risks, but the risk shouldn't be getting arrested. Yeah.

[Guest Host (Filling in for Don Lemon)]

Dr. Freda, I'm sorry, I wanted to go back to you about something because I know it's not necessarily specifically your medical kind of space, but I think that you could more than talk about this. I'm actually led to believe from what I've been. Been hearing off the record and stuff like that, that this really wasn't a Trump thing, that they're making a lot of decisions and not including Trump in this. And I think that could be a reflection of what they think about his ability to be making these types of decisions. I don't think Trump, from what I have been hearing off the record, is saying, yes, go and arrest him. Right. Does that make sense? Like, I don't, I don't think that's happening. Like, I think that it's a reflection of what they think about his mental acuity, his ability to be able to be in this decision making process. Although a lot of people would probably be inclined to believe, Dr. Freda, that because he's just not there anymore mentally, that they don't. I don't think that they include him in any of this.

[Dr. Freda]

Yeah, and there's, of course, there's no way to actually know, but Don and.

[Guest Host (Filling in for Don Lemon)]

I have medical records, Dr. Freda. If we saw his medical records, we would know.

[Dr. Freda]

Right, right, right. And he keeps telling us he's aced all of the cognitive tests over and over again. But I've spent a lot of time talking with Don and on the show about all of the signs of dementia. Of course, I'm not Donald Trump's doctor. I don't know. But you're right, how he has difficulty with word finding, how even his, the way that he walks, he meanders in a way that is consistent with someone with cognitive decline. The way that he forgets and can't keep up with his lies at times, quite frankly, he forgets, you know, the people who are in the room. He says things. He has this tangential thought. There are lots of signs of dementia, though. I don't know if it's his diagnosis, but I agree for some of these very well executed diabolical plans, such as arrest, such as killing US Citizens, and it takes someone with a very high cognitive function, and it really doesn't seem like he has it. And I want to say something to what Tara said, how, you know, you can't be sure if it's safe to go out and protest when you said that it's absolutely true and it's absolutely chilling because the fear is the point. If journalists start feeling that their lives are in danger, their safety is in danger from going out, then they will no longer cover the protests. And then what happened to Renee Good, what happened to Alex will be able to happen in the dark and the incidents will multiply. And so that's why it's so important. Even, you know, and I'm in the south and I want to tell Reese when she called it Trump Crow, I always say how my parents are raised in the Jim Crow South. I'm here in the Atlanta area where somewhere there in Fulton county trying to take or taking our election ballots, voter rolls. So I guess instead of just saying that my parents are raised in the Jim Crow south, perhaps I'm being raised in the Trump Crow South. But I just think it's just so important that regardless, I mean, we all have to make calculated risk, especially, especially those of us with children. I have three, three kids as well. But what I don't want to happen is I don't want them to win. I don't want us to be quiet. I don't want the fear to be silencing because we all know we've read 1984, we've seen the movies, we've seen history, and history is now the present unless we do something to act against it.

[Guest Host (Filling in for Don Lemon)]

That's so true. Tara, I just wanted to kind of pull on a small thread here. A lot of people are saying that the Don Lemon arrest and the arrest of Georgia Ford and others is a distraction from the Epstein files. Three million plus docs got dropped right now, although they're never dropped in a way that's particularly easy to read. But some of the stuff that we've been kind of skimming through as we've been dealing with the fallout of Don's arrest has been really egregiously horrible, Tara. I mean, we knew there was some bad shit out there, but this has been pretty bad. Just kind of your top line thoughts. I know you haven't had the chance to read 3.3 million documents, obviously, although you are Superwoman, so I wouldn't be surprised. But kind of your top line thoughts, though, about the fact that this is now the next big tranche of docs that have been released.

[Tara Palmeri]

I mean, the timing is interesting. It's always a Friday, right? That's when they want to take out the trash. Then you add in the unjust arrest of a, of a journalist and then of course, they just put out the charges. 15 minutes ago. As we're going of Don's charges, as we're going through the actual documents, it's interesting how the Daily Mail has a leak about Bill Gates and Melinda Gates, and it claims that Bill had gotten some sort of STD that Epstein knew about and that he was trying to give Melinda like, like give her antibiotics without her knowing about it. And so, like, it's, it's, it's so obvious that they are strategically leaking in advance to obtain obfuscate. What is damning about President Trump? Because there are some really damning tips that were called in now. They're, they're just tips. And if this administration, this Justice Department wanted to do the right thing, they would actually follow up on all these tips and run real investigations, but they refuse to. Instead, Todd Blanche likes to say, I don't. They're. I, I want to get the exact quote because it was just so horrific to me that he would just say, there are no men. We have no evidence. Well, how would you know if you don't run an actual investigation, when so many of these survivors have said that they were assaulted and sexually abused by other men outside of Jeffrey Epstein? Because Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell do not. It's not just them that get a thousand victims. And many men have had civil lawsuits filed against them by survivors. And we know from Glenn Maxwell herself that 23 people signed settlements with the government. So who are those people and why are we not. Why don't we know more about them? But Todd said, no, you're not going to learn anything about it. Don't worry. I don't know if there are that abused women. That is what the deputy Attorney general said. That is completely disregarding tips that have been called in, testimony from the survivors, their depositions, civil lawsuits, settlements that have been made. They are just not taking this seriously at all. And, you know, they're strategically leaking. So look at that shiny object. Of course, the story about an STD among the richest man in the world is something that everyone's going to be buzzing about. The first time it was all pictures of Bill Clinton with, you know, Epstein's girls and, you know, in, in a hot tub. So it's like this time it's Bill Gates. This is the. But they're doing it strategically. This is about telling a story. This isn't about getting to the truth. This is about a narrative. And every single step of the way, especially now that survivors know this is the last tranche and they're not getting anything else, it's extremely heartbreaking. To them, this is not what they wanted. They wanted the release of the Epstein files so that they could break the non disclosure agreements, that they could feel free. Free to talk about the abuse that they were under so that they could speak openly about the men that abused them. They wanted that safety of the Justice Department having their back. The Justice Department is basically like see no evil, hear no evil. But here's some documents that are just a bunch of tips.

[Guest Host (Filling in for Don Lemon)]

Yeah, yeah. And this is the follow and find.

[Tara Palmeri]

Out if they're real because that are.

[Guest Host (Filling in for Don Lemon)]

Supposed to have seen it all because what gets released publicly is redacted. Right. And these are supposed to be the people like Todd Blanch and others that have seen it all. Tara Palmeri, I know we have to let you go. Thank you so much for being here. But like we've been saying, for those that have been tuning in, we are doing this. I am guest hosting for Don Lemon. We are doing to show our support and love for Don, but also for independent journalists. So not only like and subscribe please for Don Lemon show. But Tara, where can people find you and subscribe and support you, please?

[Tara Palmeri]

Thank you. I'm at the Red Letter on Substack. You can go there, subscribe. That's a great way to keep me going. And I'm at, I'm on YouTube too, @tara Palmeri and appreciate all of your support. And let's get Don out of here and. And show that this is. This independent media movement cannot be stopped. This is not. Yeah. Thank you guys for what you're doing too. I really love.

[Guest Host (Filling in for Don Lemon)]

Thank you so much.

[Tara Palmeri]

That was another episode of the Tara Palmieri Show. As I said before, you can support by just subscribing, following, sharing it with your friends. You can become a paid subscriber and support my independent journalism and get my exclusive straight to your inbox. You can, you can go to Tara Palmeri.com and you can get Mike's my newsletter, the Red Letter, straight to your inbox with all of my exclusive reporting. You know, I just talked to Don about a week ago and he seemed pretty rattled by it all. I can only imagine how he's feeling now. So, of course, if there is way, any ways to support Don, go to his, his channel, subscribe, you know, follow him wherever he is. It's a way to boost awareness. He can't be silenced. We can't be silenced. I want to thank my producer, Eric Abenate. I want to thank Abby Baker who does my research and social media. I want to thank Adam Stewart, who does the Graphics and Dan Rosen, my manager.

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