Election Aftershock: What Last Night’s Wave Means + a MAGA civil war?

Summary

---

The Tara Palmeri Show

Election Aftershock: What Last Night’s Wave Means + a MAGA Civil War?

Date: November 5, 2025
Host: Tara Palmeri
Guest: Mikey Sheryl (Mo News)
Run time: Core content between 00:30–37:06

---

Overview

In this collaborative post-election episode, Tara Palmeri and Mikey Sheryl dissect the dramatic results from the previous night’s elections, which saw substantial Democratic victories across several key states—dubbed "the blue wave." The discussion delves into consequential wins for Democrats, the challenges facing both parties, and the internal rifts developing within the MAGA movement. The hosts analyze the significance of these results at both a state and national level, address emerging divisions on the American right, and consider the road ahead for American politics.

---

Key Topics & Insights

1. Breaking Down the "Blue Wave"

Timestamps: 00:30–05:56

• Tara and Mikey highlight Democratic successes in New Jersey, Virginia, Pennsylvania, Georgia, and California.
• New Jersey: Mikey Sheryl’s double-digit win viewed as a powerful result in a formerly competitive state.
  • Tara Palmeri: “To see her win so overwhelmingly…that’s pretty telling. And let’s face it, people in Jersey love Trump. That rally in Wildwood, thousands and thousands of people showed up.” (01:31)
• Virginia: Democrats won by 15 points despite a popular Republican governor, Glenn Youngkin.
  • Mikey Sheryl: “I was like, how do you explain Virginia? …A number of those Democrats, including Jay Jones, outperformed Kamala Harris last year in Virginia.” (03:01)
• Emphasis on turnout: Without a Trump or Biden on the ballot, some voters stayed home.
• Discussion of ground operation weaknesses for Republicans, especially the loss of Elon Musk’s financial support:
  • Tara Palmeri: “This is, it might be a symptom of not having Elon Musk anymore on their team…he spent $250 million. Turning points is not considered the most organized…” (04:47)

---

2. Affordability & Messaging Over Ideology

Timestamps: 05:56–11:23

• Both major parties faced an electorate focused on the cost of living; economic issues drove voting decisions.
  • Mikey Sheryl: “Cost of living. Sort of the theme of last night…we tend to do this knee jerk [reaction]…guys in charge are not cutting it, so we’re going in the other direction.” (05:56)
• Contrasted Democratic archetypes:
  • “Blue Dog” Democrats (like Mikey Sheryl and Abigail Spanberger)—centrist, national security backgrounds, avoid ‘socialist’ label.
  • Democratic socialists (like Zohran Mamdani)—embrace left identity but center their message on affordability.
• Tara Palmeri: “Who cares what the label is, right? If you’re talking about the right message, people don’t care…they care about their own issues.” (07:51)
• New York mayoral exit polls: 1 in 4 voters identify as Democratic socialist, but many also believe progressive policies are “unrealistic”—yet still voted for aspiration.
  • Mikey Sheryl: “I want someone who speaks my language and someone who is aspirational.” (08:27)

---

3. Coalition Politics & New York’s Progressive Mayor

Timestamps: 10:36–14:37

• Discussion of how Kathy Hochul, governor of New York, is likely to align with progressive forces for electoral survival.

• Increasing budget for city programs (e.g., free busing, childcare) and the political hurdles of paying for such expansions.

• Tara Palmeri: “Kathy Hochul needs him [Mamdani]. She’s up for reelection…and she needs progressives to come out in New York.” (09:53)

• Political dynamics: De Blasio “walked so Zoran can run,” with both successes and pitfalls as progressive city legislators.

  • Tara Palmeri: “De Blasio also made a lot of the same mistakes that Zoran made in terms of having a fight with the police before he got into office.” (11:06)

---

4. Tensions Around Israel/Palestine—and New York’s Jewish Community

Timestamps: 14:37–19:23

• Protests outside Mamdani’s party reflected split between pro-Palestinian supporters and pro-Israel demonstrators.
  • Tara Palmeri: “This morning, waking up to swastikas…as I was walking out of the party, there were people chanting like, free Palestine.” (14:37)
• Mikey (who is Jewish) shares the community’s anxiety: “We live our lives on edge. It’s part of the deal as Jews going back several millennia.” (15:44)
• Mamdani condemned anti-Semitism, but doubts remain about his trustworthiness on Jewish safety.
• Policing power: Serious attention to whether NYPD Commissioner Jessica Tisch will remain, a key signal to Jewish New Yorkers.

---

5. Governing Challenges for Mamdani and the NYPD

Timestamps: 19:23–22:03

• Mamdani’s victory speech: Activist tone, direct challenge to Trump, lack of olive branch to opposition.
  • Tara Palmeri: “He was very provocative last night in his speech, telling Trump, we're gonna turn it up.” (20:04)
  • Mikey Sheryl: “There was no real olive branch to the 49.9% of New Yorkers who didn’t vote for him.” (20:59)
• An experienced Trump vs. an inexperienced Mamdani: Concerns about starting fights with federal figures.
  • Mikey Sheryl: “You’re starting a fight with Trump. Like, you know, Trump’s got several decades on you.” (21:04)
• Federal-state relations could affect funding and policy for NYC.

---

6. Nationalizing Local Politics—Trump, Media, and the Midterms

Timestamps: 22:03–24:07

• Trump poised to use Mamdani’s mayoralty as a talking point against Democrats ahead of the midterms.
  • Mikey Sheryl: “He has a real opportunity here with Mamdani…nationalizing the New York situation and a Democratic socialist as mayor will certainly be helpful to Trump.” (22:03)
• New York Post and Fox News predicted to go hard on Mamdani, repeating the de Blasio years.

---

7. Civil War on the Right—Fuentes, Tucker Carlson, and MAGA’s Future

Timestamps: 24:07–29:42

• GOP infighting post-election: MAGA’s ‘civil war’ triggered by Nick Fuentes, Ben Shapiro’s takedown of Tucker Carlson, and conflicts in Gen Z/millennial conservatism.
  • Mikey Sheryl: “Did you watch the Ben Shapiro, like, 40 minute takedown of Tucker Carlson? ...He called him like an intellectual launderer of the most extreme.” (24:21, 24:44)
• The ‘glue’ of the Republican coalition is increasingly Trump’s personality and fear of losing his base rather than ideological unity.
  • Discussion about MTG (Marjorie Taylor Greene) acting out after feeling snubbed by Trump’s team.
    • Tara Palmeri: “She’s been on a bit of a revenge tour after Trump’s political team told her not to run statewide in Georgia.” (27:44)

---

8. The New Era: Social Media Stars and the Next Generation

Timestamps: 32:31–34:54

• Marjorie Taylor Greene reportedly believes she can win the presidential primary due to her national donor network; speculation of a future MTG vs. AOC race.
  • Tara Palmeri: “She feels like she understands the base better than Trump.” (32:32)
• Rise of social-media-driven celebrity politicians:
  • Mikey Sheryl: “I don’t know what they’re doing in terms of legislation, but they certainly know how to make connections…” (33:00)

---

9. Polarization, Partisan Loyalty, and Overriding Moral Concerns

Timestamps: 29:42–32:31

• Voters willing to overlook personal issues—such as offensive texts by Jay Jones, newly elected as Virginia Attorney General—if party identity or key issues take precedence.
  • Tara Palmeri: “That shows you, like, how much people hate Republicans right now. It’s crazy.” (30:30)
  • Mikey Sheryl: “We’ve entered this partisan era where it’s like, my party, my color blue, or what do you do for me, is more important than anything else.” (31:26)
  • Tara Palmeri: “…I don’t think that everyone who votes for Trump is a bigot. I think a lot of them just think that he’s going to do a better job…they only care about that.” (31:31)

---

10. Closing Reflections and California Takeaways

Timestamps: 35:09–36:14

• Final thoughts: California’s impact—redistricting advantages for Democrats, and a “big win for Gavin Newsom.”
  • Mikey Sheryl: “California was the big kahuna. So they can get five blue seats to compete with Texas and North Carolina…” (35:09)
• Events move quickly; by next week, fallout from this election may already be old news.

---

Notable Quotes & Moments

• On the New Jersey Upset:
  Tara Palmeri: “To see her win so overwhelmingly...that's pretty telling. And let's face it, people in Jersey love Trump.” (01:31)

• On Political Messaging:
  Tara Palmeri: “Who cares what the label is, right? If you're talking about the right message, people don't care. They care about their own issues.” (07:51)

• On Democratic Socialism in NYC:
  Mikey Sheryl: “I think for people, they're like, I don't care what you call it. Like, I want someone who speaks my language and someone who is aspirational.” (08:27)

• On Jewish Community Concerns:
  Mikey Sheryl: “We live our lives on edge. Okay. It's part of the deal as Jews going back several millennia...you saw Mamdani, like, jump pretty quickly to condemn the swastika. But the question is...do they feel more comfortable in a Mom Dani, New York. And that's the concern I think Jews genuinely have.” (15:44, 18:13)

• On Mamdani’s Victory Speech:
  Mikey Sheryl: “There was no real olive branch to the 49.9% of New Yorkers who didn't vote for him.” (20:59)

• On MAGA’s Civil War:
  Mikey Sheryl: “Ben Shapiro...called [Tucker Carlson] like an intellectual launderer of the most extreme…these fault lines develop around all of this.” (24:44)

• On Social Media Politicians:
  Mikey Sheryl: “In this era...if you can communicate there and, like, rile up a base and...get a bunch of small donors, like, you have a real opportunity. The parties don't mean anything anymore.” (33:00)

---

Important Segment Timestamps

• Blue Wave Election Analysis: 00:30–05:56
• Labels vs. Messaging/Affordability: 05:56–11:23
• NYC Political Coalitions/Budget/Progressive Mayorship: 10:36–14:37
• Israel/Palestine Tensions & Jewish Community: 14:37–19:23
• Mamdani, Trump, and Civil Service: 19:23–22:03
• MAGA Civil War & Right-Wing Fissures: 24:07–29:42
• MTG's Revenge and Future Primary Dynamics: 27:44–32:31
• Social Media-era Politicians: 33:00–34:54
• Closing Reflections/California: 35:09–36:14

---

Tone & Style Notes

• Conversational, analytical, at times irreverent but deeply informed.
• Mixes first-hand reporting, inside scoop, and real-time reaction.
• Pull-no-punches insight into both Democratic and Republican strategy, as well as political “vibes.”

---

This summary captures the core discussions of Tara Palmeri's post-election special, providing key takeaways for anyone interested in understanding the 2025 electoral landscape and the undercurrents shaping America’s political direction.

Transcript

[Commercial Announcer]

DSW Designer Shoe Warehouse is the one stop. Shop for all your footwear needs with sneakers, boots, and everything in between for every style, mood and occasion. You'll definitely find shoes that get you at prices that get your budget. DSW has what you need, but more importantly, they have what you didn't even know you wanted. You never know what you'll find at dsw. Find the shoes that get you at prices that get your budget at dsw stores or dsw.com okay.

[Tara Palmeri]

Welcome to a collaboration between the Tower Pal Mary show and the Red Letter and Mo News. Mo and I, last time we talked about the primary election, we made some news ourselves.

[Mikey Sheryl]

I think. I think, yeah, Fox News picked up one of the clips.

[Tara Palmeri]

Yeah. Random. But I was like, wait, what? People started sending me clips. This happens sometimes, but anything can happen. That's why you guys all tune in. Thank you for coming. I think we're all trying to break this down. Last night, I was at Mom Donnie's election party for the ap. I'm sure you were following this as well, but I don't think we have to just focus on Mom Donnie and what his win means. We can also talk about the blue wave, because that's what it was, Mikey. Cheryl. I mean, just as they.

[Mikey Sheryl]

Abigail Spanberger, Supreme Court justices in Pennsylvania, statewide seats in Georg, an overwhelming victory for Gavin Newsom in California, too.

[Tara Palmeri]

Right. And, you know, as a Jersey girl, I will say that it's something to win by a double digit, you know, margin in Jersey as a Democrat coming off of a Democratic election, I mean, coming off of a Democratic incumbent, especially an unpopular one like Phil Murphy, those elections are usually pretty tight in Jersey. And so to see her win so overwhelmingly, and there was a lot of concern that she was only up by four points. And so I think that's pretty telling. And let's face it, people in Jersey love Trump. That that rally in Wildwood, thousands and thousands of people showed up.

[Mikey Sheryl]

If we had been, you know, if we were chatting right now and Jack Cittarelli would have won, we wouldn't be surprised in the least. No, we wouldn't hold off a victory there.

[Tara Palmeri]

Yeah, no, but it was double digits. She beat him by 10 points. It's pretty overwhelming. And then Virginia is 15. I mean, Republicans now are just like piling on Winsome Sears. Am I saying her name? Winsome Earl Sears. Excuse me. They are just piling on her so saying she's a bad candidate, bad campaign, blah, blah, blah. Fifteen points, though, in Virginia, when you had a very, very popular governor, Glenn Youngkin, a Republican incumbent.

[Mikey Sheryl]

Yeah.

[Tara Palmeri]

And I don't know, I, I have.

[Mikey Sheryl]

To say, I mean, I definitely heard from some Republicans who are like, ah, you know what? No, shocker. Blue areas, you know, were won by blue candidates. I was like, how do you explain Virginia? I mean, like, yeah, especially in light of the fact that you saw statewide there a number of those Democrats, including Jay Jones, outperformed Kamala Harris last year in Virginia. So you is something to be said there, you know, and I don't think the President was altogether wrong that he wasn't on the ballot. So a lot of the voters that he has pulled out in recent years who show up to vote for him don't necessarily come out to vote when he's not on the ballot, especially when he's sort of like at a distance because he knew what the result might be. So he didn't like, double down. He didn't travel with these candidates. He was like phoning, literally phoning it in. Right. Doing teletown halls with them. And so I think it really will be one of the interesting things to watch here of how he Trumpifies or nationalizes next year's midterms, given that he has much more at stake, you know, by keeping the House and Senate. He doesn't want to get impeached for a third time.

[Tara Palmeri]

Yeah. But you know, it's interesting. He was so close to Virginia and he didn't even go campaign for her there. And I mean, I know that they thought she was going to win, lose, and there's kind of like the stink of loss that he probably didn't want to be associated with. But still, he does love to campaign. Right. You think he would be out in Jersey? I don't think he went out to Jersey either, did he?

[Mikey Sheryl]

No, no, he didn't like. And he's got administer there, you know, like.

[Tara Palmeri]

No, no, he didn't go campaign in Jersey, I don't think either.

[Mikey Sheryl]

And I think he knew what was happening and he didn't want to be blamed. You know, he didn't want the headline to be Republican laws, you know, despite Trump stumping. Right. So, yeah, Trump took the other tack here and said, you know, I support you from afar, but I will be blamed for your loss.

[Tara Palmeri]

You know, it's interesting. So I've been calling Republicans today. Obviously Democrats are all gleeful and you know, they're, they're very happy. So I'm like, well, what are Republicans saying? Right. And one Republican said, you know, this is, it might be a symptom of not having elon Musk anymore on their team because Elon Musk can pay for the ground operations. And, you know, and they, they, that was like, really, really helpful for them. In 2025, 2024, he spent $250 million. Turning points is not considered the most organized. And they had relied a lot on broadcast and digital and text and mailers. And it seems to be kind of the past. Whereas Democrats have their unions or churches or get out the vote, you know, pound the payment. And they don't, they didn't really use that this time around. Republican.

[Mikey Sheryl]

I mean, I think it's also a product of the fact that, like, people don't feel great about the economy. Right. Like, the core reason that many voters voted for Trump and Republicans was, you know, inflation, cost of living.

[Tara Palmeri]

Right.

[Mikey Sheryl]

I mean, cost of living. Sort of the theme of last night. Right. Both in New York, but also across the country. And we tend to do this like, you know, knee jerk in this country now where we go like, the guys in charge are not cutting it and so we're going the other direction. I, you know, I don't think it's lost in the fact that, you know, Virginia also has, like, so many government workers. Right. And so I think was, was really impacted by Doge. And so I think there's the issues, but also candid quality. Right. Like matters. We always come down to this whenever we discuss election results. Like, a good candidate is worth a lot and a bad candidate, like, is tough to overcome.

[Tara Palmeri]

Yeah. But Mikey, Cheryl was seen as sort of a weaker candidate.

[Mikey Sheryl]

Yeah.

[Tara Palmeri]

And she sort of even touched the third rail of taxes in New Jersey and raising taxes, which was seen as very risky. And, you know, Chitterella was supposed to be someone that, I don't know, the, the Republicans could. They saw as an opportunity, at least like a one win in a night that was a, a blue wave. What do we make of it all, though, from the left? What do you think? I mean, very polar opposite candidates. You've got Mikey, Sheryl, Abigail Sandberger, Blue Dog Democrats came in on the blue wave against Trump, but with national security backgrounds. Right. Both veterans. I think Spamberger is former CIA intelligence, and Mikey, Sheryl is a veteran. And they're kind of like hardo women and then saying they don't want to go anywhere near socialism. And then you've got Mamdani, who is a Democratic socialist, saying, I mean, it was all through the, you know, talking about affordability, but with the label Democratic socialist. And I think they both looked at this, all of them looked at this through the tunnel of affordability, though, Mikey. Cheryl was talking about lowering energy prices. You know, Abigail Spanberger was talking about affordability as well. So that's where I get to, that's where I get to this place where I'm like, who cares what the label is, right? If you're talking about the right message, people don't care. They, they care about their own issues. They care about if they're in a crisis, an affordability crisis, a cost crisis, inflation crisis. They don't care as much about the label associated. Would you agree? Or what do you think?

[Mikey Sheryl]

I think, I mean, coming to you from Manhattan right now, I think that's super. Like here, like, you know, let's talk about the New York City mayor's race for a second. I think at the end of the day, what was interesting actually was that exit poll showed New York that one out of four people who voted self described Democratic socialists. I did not realize that one out of four New Yorkers was like that. We were 25% self described socialists. But nonetheless, I think for people, they were like, I don't care what you call it. Like, I want someone who speaks my language and someone who is aspirational, right. Like, I don't know that he's going to get there. You know, the majority of New Yorkers last night said in the exit poll that Mamdani's views are unrealistic. Like his policy goals are unrealistic. But a good portion of them still voted for him. Right? Because he at least is talking the talk. You know, it's not very inspirational to hear Andrew Cuomo say, well, let me tell you why all these things can't happen at a time when it's, you know, affordability is the key issue. And so whether it's Donald Trump saying Mexico is going to pay for a wall or it's Mamdani saying, I'm going to figure out a way to like give you free this and free that. I think people are like, okay, cool. Like that sounds awesome. Like, can you make any of that stuff happen? Let's roll the dice.

[Tara Palmeri]

I actually think it's not all without not within reach, to be honest. Having covered City hall and what proposals.

[Mikey Sheryl]

Are well, how is he going to pay for all of it? Increasing taxes in Albany?

[Tara Palmeri]

Well, he wants to increase taxes in Albany. He can't do it, but he needs Kathy Hopeful to do it. And Kathy Hochul also needs him. Greatness. We'll get to the J. Jones thing, but I want to first answer this question. Thank you for the Support, by the way. But, you know, he needs Kathy Hochul, Right? Kathy Hochul needs him. She's up for reelection. Yes. And she needs progressives to come out in New York. They saved her in the very close race against Republican Lee Zeldin four years ago. And so, you know, for free busing, it's like about 800 million right now is what they would need. And basically, at this point, only half of people actually use free buses.

[Mikey Sheryl]

I mean, I take the bus every day, and I am one of the few people who pay. I think I bored every day.

[Tara Palmeri]

Exactly. Universal health care. I mean, child care. Excuse me. Universal child care. Healthcare. Be very different. Is very expensive, but very popular. But they're kind of already there because de Blasio did four pre K3K in a lot of areas to, you know, two kids.

[Mikey Sheryl]

De Blasio, in so many ways walked. So Zoran can run.

[Tara Palmeri]

Right. And I saw him in the corner at the party in, like, the dark. That kind of like. Yeah, because. But de Blasio also made a lot of the same mistakes that Zoron made in terms of having a fight with the police before he got into office. Except Zoron is on his apology A.

[Mikey Sheryl]

I had the time of my life. Hey, I never felt this way before.

[Tara Palmeri]

From building timelines to assigning the right people and even spotting risks across dozens.

[Commercial Announcer]

Of projects, Monday Sidekick knows your business.

[Tara Palmeri]

Thinks ahead and takes action.

[Commercial Announcer]

One click on the star and consider it done.

[Mikey Sheryl]

And I owe it all to you.

[Tara Palmeri]

Try Monday Sidekick AI you'll love to use on Monday.com detour already.

[Mikey Sheryl]

But what do you make of the fact that, like, he wouldn't just do the apology like he talked about? I'm only doing the apology individually. Like, why not just have the moment? Is it a pride thing for him?

[Tara Palmeri]

No, he put it on Fox. You didn't see it?

[Mikey Sheryl]

I saw it on Fox, but it wasn't a, you know, like, on Fox. He also turned, you know, to camera one. He's like, Donald Trump. I've messaged you. He could have been like, NYPD officers. I'm so, like, heartfelt sorry for calling you those things. He didn't do that. He. He didn't. I mean, I talked to NYPD officers who, like, don't trust him and felt that he danced around the apology without, like, I'm going to do it individually to people, I'm going to express to individuals, as opposed to just having a press conference in front of straight to the camera, which he's very good at doing. And I wonder if you know, and, and I know that there are a number of people within the police force who are still, you know, concerned about him and upset about that.

[Tara Palmeri]

Of course. I mean, he was, he was for defund the police. I mean, that's pretty racist.

[Mikey Sheryl]

And called it, you know, a whole bunch of things.

[Tara Palmeri]

Yeah, exactly.

[Mikey Sheryl]

But so even the Department of Community Safety, Right. His billion dollar mental health department altered to, I guess he could potentially reallocate funds. I mean, that's going to be a huge fight. Right. But you have to talk about like $120 billion budget at City Hall.

[Tara Palmeri]

No, it's bigger than that.

[Mikey Sheryl]

Is it even bigger than 120? I keep seeing the 120 tossed around.

[Tara Palmeri]

120 billion? Yeah, it's 200, I thought it's closer. Okay, well, maybe you're right. I thought it was 200 billion budget, city Hall. Wait, I should probably do that. Yeah. The annual operating budget of, of. Oh, you're right. It is between 120 and 1. And it's a. Yeah, it's 120 billion. You're right. Excuse me, I thought it was 200 for some reason, but yeah. And that all comes from the, the state. And by the way, let's talk a little bit about what he's up against. Okay. So Kathy Hochel will be an ally until her election at the very least. Right. She probably won't raise taxes because she's got this election.

[Mikey Sheryl]

Yeah. It's not a good thing even. Even if you're raising taxes on millionaires. Not a good thing to raise taxes in an election year.

[Tara Palmeri]

No. And. But he does have Senate Democrats in the state, which should help him with funding, which de Blasio didn't have. He had Senate Republicans. And he and Cuomo hated each other. Like, hated each other, so.

[Mikey Sheryl]

And Cuomo didn't need de Blasio, whereas, like, Hochul, like, needs the Zoran get out the vote operation. I mean, she's facing a primary challenge. Right. From Delgado as well.

[Tara Palmeri]

Yeah.

[Mikey Sheryl]

And then she's going to have like, you know, the fight of her life. You know, I think The Elise Stefanik vs. Kathy Hochul race is gonna be fascinating to watch next year.

[Tara Palmeri]

Yeah. Let's talk about the Jewish community, though. This morning, waking up to swastikas.

[Mikey Sheryl]

Yes.

[Tara Palmeri]

As I was walking out of the party, there were people chanting like, free Palestine. Free Palestine. Right. And then those were. Mom dance supporter. Excuse me, Zo Ramdani supporters. It was a late night, guys. I'm a little tired right now. And then there were a number of people Supporting Israel, like, right in between. They kind of had them.

[Mikey Sheryl]

Wait, like protesters who are outside the Mamdani rally?

[Tara Palmeri]

Well, the, like, half of them were like, I guess you could call them.

[Mikey Sheryl]

Protests or they were Mamdani people who happened to be pro Israel.

[Tara Palmeri]

Yeah, no, they were Mamdani people that were pro Palestine and then protesters that were pro Israel.

[Mikey Sheryl]

Okay.

[Tara Palmeri]

And they were all together with like a, I guess, fenced off, police, you know, area. But it was interesting. I mean, this is. And then you wake up in the morning to see swastika outside of a.

[Mikey Sheryl]

Jewish school in Brooklyn.

[Tara Palmeri]

Yeah, exactly. I mean, what do you. What do you make of all of this? You're. You're Jewish. And I know you've been following this closely.

[Mikey Sheryl]

Yeah. The Jewish community is understandably on edge. We live our lives on edge. Okay. It's just. It's part of the. The. The deal. As Jews going back several millennia, we, you know, have. I think the exit poll showed that two thirds of Jews either voted for Sliwa or Cuomo. Mumdani got about 30%. Now, keep in mind, Jews is like, we're religion, we're an ethnicity, we're a nationality. You know, there's. There's multiple levels to Jewish identity, which is why you have the brand, the Landers and the Mandy Patinkins and others of the world. Atlanta Glazer supporting Mamdani. But then you have the vast majority of the Jewish community that had, you know, concerns about him because, you know, like, whether it's his friendship with Hassan Piker or whether it's, you know, he.

[Tara Palmeri]

Was there last night.

[Mikey Sheryl]

I saw him. I saw him. There's a clip of him circulating, of Piker circulating, where he's talking about, like, how unfortunate it was that the US Defeated the Soviet Union. I mean, you have that. Obviously, there's the New York Post cover, you know.

[Tara Palmeri]

Oh, my God, the New York Post cover. If you can get that, Eric, I think you could maybe show everyone.

[Mikey Sheryl]

You gotta show. I mean, the New York Post, which has gone like square, scorched earth.

[Tara Palmeri]

Oh. I mean, I predicted. Yeah.

[Mikey Sheryl]

And by the way, the, like, the Mamdani four years, you know, the next four years are going to be huge for the New York Post in terms of, like, a confrontational, like an opportunity for them. Sort of like the de Blasio years were insane.

[Tara Palmeri]

I covered him then for the.

[Mikey Sheryl]

And. And I'll say just to, you know, wrap up your question on just Juice, you know, felt like, okay, he gave a line last night about anti Semitism, but it's not altogether, you know, different from what he'd been saying. And, you know, Jews are generally, you know, worried about their safety in the city, worried about vibes in the city. The. The swastikas this morning certainly reinforced that, the feeling that, you know, New York City has a significant, you know, more than a million Jews live here. Incidentally, you know, it turns out that as much as these stereotypes and conspiracy theories exist about us being all powerful and the Jews control everything, well, like. Well, it goes to show you that, you know, a city that has the most Jews in the world, you know, someone who is vehemently anti Zionist, right? Vehemently against Israel, was able to win the, you know, membership pretty handily. And so I think, you know, Jews this morning, in the coming weeks, I think there's a group of Jews who are, like, crazy freaked out right now, like, comparing this, like, 1930s Germany. I think that group of Jews needs to, like, take a deep breath. And then there are the Jews, the Atlanta Glazers and aforementioned folks that are, like, dismissing all of it, right? Like, you guys are crazy. Everything's fine. And I think the most Jews probably fall somewhere in the middle, which is, like, there is a concern of what this means. There are questions as to how much power the mayor has. And, you know, already, as Jews, we live in a city where, you know, you have NYPD insecurity to every single Jewish school and synagogue in the city. You know, you live your life under threat, concerned about various threats. And so, you know, you saw Mamdani, like, jump pretty quickly to condemn the swastika. But the question is, you know, are people who have those feelings feel. Do they feel more comfortable in a Mom Dani, New York. And that's the concern I think Jews genuinely have. And I think it is very much a wait and see as to what that'll all mean. But I think they continue to be on edge here. And, you know, I think the Jessica Tisch decision, you know, whether he actually generally invites her to remain as NYPD commissioner and whether she stays and what the policies look like will be one of the key things that I think the Jewish Committee will be looking at.

[Tara Palmeri]

I think that the plan is to keep her. That's what he signaled.

[Mikey Sheryl]

Well, to invite her to stay. Now, does she. Now, does she. Does she want to continue to be NYPD commissioner, you know, under Mamdani, given some of the policies that he's going to pursue, that's going to be the big question for her.

[Tara Palmeri]

And he's going to need the nypd not only because they have voted almost veto power over his mayorship. And he could. They could make it really difficult, especially when he may be up against the National Guard and Department of Homeland Security officers, ICE officers coming into the city. You know, I found that he was very provocative last night in his speech, telling Trump, we're gonna turn it up.

[Mikey Sheryl]

Like, I was like, turn the volume up.

[Tara Palmeri]

I was like, what?

[Mikey Sheryl]

I mean, it was very much activist. It was very much active Mamdani. Because we've seen sort of a softer, cuddlier, you know, version of Mamdani during the campaign trail. But last night was very much him and his, like, activist roots, being like, I won. Like, Trump, look at camera number one. This is my message to you. Like, it was. And he also, like, really took up expectations for what he thinks he can accomplish. I mean, it was a. You know, I use the word on our. On our Instagram page, like, a defiant speech by Zuram Dani. Like, I won. This is why I won. Let me congratulate everyone who helped me win. There was no real olive branch to the 49.9% of New Yorkers who didn't vote for him. Right. And he very much decided to, like, start the back, the next stage of the back and forth with Trump here.

[Tara Palmeri]

Which is so unhelpful because he can withhold funds to the state.

[Mikey Sheryl]

It's a sign of, I think, his lack of experience. Right. Like, you're starting a fight with Trump. Like, you know, Trump's got several decades on you. He's done this for a while. Like, I would relish it.

[Tara Palmeri]

Although Trump does own a lot of property in New York, so I think he also understands that it could impact his bottom line if he is too antagonistic to New York. It's interesting that he didn't go there first. You know, he went to Portland, he went to Chicago, he went to California. I wonder if he's a little. If he doesn't want to attack the city where he owns so much property.

[Mikey Sheryl]

Or he's had the deal with Eric Adams. Right. And so, like, Eric and him have been sort of, you know, and even Tom Homan is talking to Eric Adams.

[Tara Palmeri]

Yeah.

[Mikey Sheryl]

And so I think that. I mean, it is a. That's why it was so interesting this summer when there was, like, a moment in time when the White House was, like, very much trying to figure out, or at least publicly showing, how do we prevent a momdani as mayor? And certainly there's downside, right.

[Tara Palmeri]

For.

[Mikey Sheryl]

For public. But there's certain upside here for Trump, as he is so good at sort of like taking one issue or one individual and like making them out to be something bigger. And I think he has a real opportunity here with Mamdani. I think he will have the help of newspaper. Right. And Fox News and like, ultimately over the, you know, if the midterms don't seem to be going the right direction, nationalizing the New York situation and a Democratic socialist as mayor will certainly be helpful to Trump.

[Tara Palmeri]

Yeah.

[Mikey Sheryl]

How can you let the Democrats go in? Look, they're electing a bunch of socialists right now.

[Tara Palmeri]

Right. But I, I know Bannon, Steve Bannon, former Trump advisor. Still sort of advisor.

[Mikey Sheryl]

Well, he's the secret advisor on 2028. He has the secret plan to make Trump president again.

[Tara Palmeri]

Yes, exactly. He did, you know, fire some warning shots this morning on his show, saying that Republicans should not be giddy over the fact that the left is, is, is organizing against the establishment and that they are rising up the Bernie Bros. Which I've been saying all emoji moment.

[Commercial Announcer]

From Mark, who writes, I just want to thank making GLP1s affordable. What would have been over $1,000 a month is just $99 a month with Mochi money shouldn't be a barrier to healthy weight. Three months in and I have smaller jeans and a bigger wallet.

[Mikey Sheryl]

You're the best.

[Commercial Announcer]

Thanks, Mark. I'm Mayra Amit, founder of Mochi Health. To find your mochi moment, visit joinmochie.com.

[Mikey Sheryl]

Mark is a Mochi member, compensated for.

[Tara Palmeri]

His story long and, and they're, they're the base. They're coming out for their own.

[Mikey Sheryl]

The left Maga. The left is having its own Maga moment.

[Tara Palmeri]

Right. And meanwhile, the MAGA is going through its kind of civil war over this Nick Fuentes stuff. And you know, the fact that Tucker Carlson platformed a white nationalist, but he's a guy that President Trump also had dinner with. And at the same time, no, it's.

[Mikey Sheryl]

Not clear like, how much, you know, like, sort of was Trump just at the club and being like, oh, Kanye is bringing a guy, like, how much do we know in the end that like Trump knew about Fuentes going in, about that dinner that he had?

[Tara Palmeri]

I mean, he'll say he didn't know anything. Right?

[Mikey Sheryl]

Right. Oh, I mean, that's what he says. Like, yeah, but, but nonetheless, the, the fight here has been fascinating. Did you watch the Shapiro, the Ben Shapiro, like, 40 minute takedown of Tucker Carlson?

[Tara Palmeri]

No, I didn't. So you couldn't watch it for me?

[Mikey Sheryl]

Okay, I did actually. I did watch it we put together a three minute highlight reel. If you check out the Modus Instagram page, you'll get the three minutes of. You'll, you'll, you'll get a feel for what Shapiro.

[Tara Palmeri]

Yeah.

[Mikey Sheryl]

Said. But it was like everything from like, you know, Tucker Carlson let Nick Fuentes cuck him. Like, you know, like he went at it. I called him like an intellectual launderer of like the most extreme, like Ben Shapiro. Like did quite a takedown of Tucker Carlson. And to see sort of these like fault lines develop around all of this in the aftermath of Charlie Kirk. Right. There's sort of, you know, a fight here of the future of Gen Z and millennial conservatives.

[Tara Palmeri]

Yeah.

[Mikey Sheryl]

Who, you know, and key to that is, you know, what does MAGA look like? You know, Trump is holding this coalition together that he's put together, that he's sort of uniquely adapted, putting together. Right. The populist stuff. You know, he can sort of get away with whatever he wants to in foreign policy.

[Tara Palmeri]

He scared the F out of the establishment, so they have to hang on for dear life. Right.

[Mikey Sheryl]

Yeah. You know, and, and in the aftermath of Trump, how, how does the coalition stick together here? And I think that you do see folks on like the fringe, right. Like Nick Fuentes, like, you know, however Candace Owens has been doing her thing, right. Like sort of like seen opportunity to seize Turning Point USA and like seize the momentum here. As you know, we talk about like Democrats from across the spectrum winning last night. Like what is a Democrat? Like what is a Republican moving forward here? And, and what's left of the, you know, we saw du Cheney died yesterday. But like the vestiges of the, of that old Republican Guard, whatever's the Nikki Haley wing. Yeah, well, some are, but like dispatch, right. Like they, they didn't go so far as to endorse Kamala Harris. And then you sort of have, you know, the very, the populist, you know, blue collar workers. You still have the Chamber of Commerce Republicans. And how do you, how do you keep that whole crew together? You have the America Firsters, but then you have America Firsters, but like, but for Israel. But now you see sort of the anti Israel wing of the party, you know, building up there. So it's the. I'm, you know, we were chatting about this earlier, like sort of waiting for Trump to chime in here. But again, he's sort of scotch taping the thing together.

[Tara Palmeri]

Yes. He's not going to want to comment on it. He's going to be like the whole thing that's The Scotch tape is the fear of Trump. That is a Scotch tape.

[Mikey Sheryl]

Yeah.

[Tara Palmeri]

But when someone becomes more compelling and can. Can really lead the people astray. The lost sheep. That's what. That's what's. That'll be a moment. And I do think this, that Trump abandoning America first, I do think that that is something that a lot of these people voted for. And you hear Marjorie Taylor Greene talking about it, too.

[Mikey Sheryl]

What's going on with her, by the way? I've been so fascinated. She's doing Bill Maher, she's doing the View. She's, like, coming out against Trump. Like, what's happening with her?

[Tara Palmeri]

All right, well, I reported this in the red letter. So everybody who wanted the inside scoop, you can go to the red letter@tara palmeri.com and I have the inside I reported a few weeks ago. But basically, she's been on a bit of a revenge tour after Trump's political team told her not to run statewide in Georgia. This was back in May, and ever since then, she's been kind of. She's been annoyed and she acts from her gut. She's a bit more like of a guttural character, not very strategic. And this is her way of really, you know, sticking it to them. And I do think that what she's saying, she believes, but I just think she'd be more likely to keep it to herself. But now she just doesn't really care. But, yeah, she's not very strategic. But ultimately, I mean, she's annoyed she wanted to run. And she's. You know what she also is annoyed about? She's not in the Cabinet.

[Mikey Sheryl]

Yeah.

[Tara Palmeri]

She feels like she campaigned really hard for them. She feels like she got passed over. I remember I interviewed her at Mar a Lago during Trump's primary party. Primary election party. And she was like, could pull out Katie Britt's heritage score out of nowhere. Like, she was watching everyone and that she saw as someone who could possibly take her place. And she was like, I want to be VP dhs. Like, it was, you know, I remember.

[Mikey Sheryl]

Sitting in the box with Trump at the convention. You know, there's only a handful of seats there. It was like, oh, she's definitely like, secretary. And. But like. And then she saw, like, Christine Ohm get a Cabinet slot. Right. And then she saw.

[Tara Palmeri]

Yeah, she talked about it. She said, why are all these new people coming in? What's going on? What about the true loyal. She said that on the record. Loyal Mac. And so this is what you're seeing now. It's like an unhinged. Not unhinged, but unchanged. Because I don't actually think everything she's saying is wrong. Like, the Epstein files should be released. A lot of people who did vote for America first are wondering, why is Trump involved in all of these wars? But he's going to Africa now. It's like, Venezuela, right?

[Mikey Sheryl]

He's, like, solving all these wars, but then he's, like, threatening war in Nigeria, on Venezuela, where we have, like, a quarter of all of our naval assets, right? Going there, we're gonna, like, engage in a regime change. Like, I thought he's the guy who was like, Iraq was a mistake, you know, and, like, we shouldn't be doing that stuff anymore. Except if I declare it, you know, necessary.

[Tara Palmeri]

Yeah. Well, I did get a question here that I feel like I need to answer, because it was asked twice. How could anyone vote and support Jay Jones in Virginia? He was the candidate for. Well, now the. He's going to be the Attorney General in Virginia after he texted death wishes.

[Mikey Sheryl]

Upon a Republican leader and, like, talked about taking joy in, like, the death of his children to, like, get gun. I mean, some really, like, disgusting things.

[Tara Palmeri]

But that shows you, like, how much people hate the Republicans right now. It's crazy. And I do think that applies.

[Mikey Sheryl]

Well, it's also just. It's how partisan things have gotten. Like, you are now willing to, like, put aside. Like, many voters are willing to put aside major character issues because of either their hatred of the other side or their belief in certain issues. And you're seeing that more. I mean, look, look, the guy who lost last night in New York City was Andrew Cuomo. Again, like, the last time we did a live, we talked about Cuomo losing the last time, and, you know, he has major flaws and major issues, and there are a whole bunch of people that, like, you know, legitimately tried to, you know, plug their nose and vote for him because, again, they were more concerned about Bovdani. And. And again, I'm not equating what J. Jones texted with, but, like, they all have their various flaws. But I think we've entered this partisan era where it's like, my party, my color blue, or what do you do?

[Tara Palmeri]

For me, it's more important than anything else.

[Mikey Sheryl]

What can you do to cut my taxes? He's going to do xyz, right?

[Tara Palmeri]

That's why I always took exception to people that said that everyone who votes for Trump is a bigot. I'm like, I don't think that everyone who votes for Trump is a bigot. I think a Lot of them just think that he's going to do a better job, it's going to vote, it's going to do better things for them. Like, they only care about that.

[Mikey Sheryl]

Right? Like, if I'm a crypto person, I wanted to vote for Trump. If I'm a Wall street person, I wanted less regulation. Right? Like, there were many reasons and, like, depending on your sector, like, if you're like, I talked to somebody recently in the energy world, in the oil business, and they're like, you know, Trump's doing stuff for us we don't even ask for. Like, we don't even need as much as he's, like, he's been incredible to us. Like, he's like, the administration is just, like, offering this left, right, and this left, right and center. And we're like, we don't even need that stuff. Like, thank you. Like, we're good right now in terms of what you're doing. And so, yeah, there's, I mean, many reasons that people pick their candidates. And I think in Virginia, you saw this, like, really, you know, blue wave. And so even if Jay Jones wrote these disgusting things, you're like, whatever. Like, I don't want the other side in there. So.

[Tara Palmeri]

Okay, I got some breaking news, guys.

[Mikey Sheryl]

All right.

[Tara Palmeri]

One source told Notice, Marjorie Taylor Greene believes she has the national donor network to win the primary. And we are talking about the presidential primary. So, yeah, I kind of had a feeling that it might come down to that, but she feels like she understands the base better than Trump and that she's gonna.

[Mikey Sheryl]

2028 is Marjorie versus AOC.

[Tara Palmeri]

No wonder AOC has been, like, ripping on her.

[Mikey Sheryl]

No, it's funny, but they both, like, this is the thing, and we've seen this covering Congress for a while now, is that you've seen the rise in the social media era of these, like, social media members of Congress who. I don't know what they're doing in terms of legislation, but they certainly know how to make, you know, connections on social media and get millions of followers and do television hits and TikTok videos, etc. And, you know, I coming off of Trump winning twice. This is our era. Like, if you can communicate there and, like, rile up a base and, you know, get a bunch of small donors, like, you have a real opportunity. The parties don't mean anything anymore. I mean, again, look what happened in New York.

[Tara Palmeri]

Totally. And I just, you know, obviously she'll have to get through the presidential primary.

[Mikey Sheryl]

Right? Like, I think she'll have a very difficult time running Against JD Vance or Marco Rubio?

[Tara Palmeri]

Well, it depends on how Trump looks after that. I mean, this is one year deep and Republicans certainly suffered in this off year election. Does J.D. vance have that same ability to mobilize voters? Does he charm the same.

[Mikey Sheryl]

Like, I don't know that he doesn't have the charisma. Right. No one does. Like, you know, I've watched J.D. vance at rallies. Like, he's fine, but he's not like Trump.

[Tara Palmeri]

He's also not a good retail politician. Like, having met him and talked to him, he is an introvert, actually. And he can be a little rude. Not like terribly rude, but just awkward, you know? And these guys, the best politicians, are seducers. Seriously, they are. They want to win everybody's vote.

[Mikey Sheryl]

If you. I mean, like, I've. Like, the first person that came to mind was Bill Clinton. Like, just like being in a conversation with Bill Clinton, like, Bill Clinton makes you feel, even as a guy, he's not interested in. Like, like you're the only person in the.

[Tara Palmeri]

Yeah, but they are. I mean, they're all seducers, the best politicians.

[Mikey Sheryl]

John Edwards, well, he took seducing to the next level there.

[Tara Palmeri]

Yeah. All right, we're getting to that half hour point. Any last thoughts, Moshe, about the election and what to take away from all this?

[Mikey Sheryl]

You know, we didn't mention California yet. And like, I think that was probably one of the more significant things on two levels. Right. One, Democrats can hold their own as these red states redistrict. Right. California was the big kahuna. So they can get five blue seats to compete with Texas and North Carolina and Missouri who are all adding various red seats. That's something in the Dem fight for the House next year because there's, I mean, I don't see a scenario where the Dems are taking the Senate. There'd have to be some crazy thing that unfold there. And we could do a separate episode on the Senate seats that are up next year. But two, like, big win for Gavin Newsom. Right. Like, as we've been sort of watching his, like, what's his journey?

[Tara Palmeri]

He knows what his journey is.

[Mikey Sheryl]

Well, yeah, I mean, he has a vision of it. But beyond that, I just have to say, you know, we always, like on these days are like, okay, what does this all mean? Like, what happened yesterday? What does it all mean by next week, by next month, we won't even be talking about these midterms.

[Tara Palmeri]

I don't actually, I've seen the numbers or nobody's talking about it anymore. It's actually over as even say people are over it or like, whatever.

[Mikey Sheryl]

Cool. No, no. We were even talking about, like, what we're posting on our Instagram page, and I was like, I think we're done with the, like, election stuff at this point. Like, anything before noon, afternoon, like, we're done, like, moving on to the next thing.

[Tara Palmeri]

That's it. Bye. Bye. Thank you for all of this. We'll let you get back to your wonderful lives. Thanks for tuning in to MO News. Tara Palmeri show meets Red letter. Please subscribe to both. Keep us independent. And we depend on you to be independent.

[Mikey Sheryl]

We're bought by Paramount.

[Tara Palmeri]

Oh, yeah.

[Mikey Sheryl]

No, Very Press was bought by Paramount.

[Tara Palmeri]

I guess Free anymore. It's actually changed. So now that the free press has been chained, you can now support true independence. Thank you, guys and we'll see you back. We should. We should do this more regularly.

[Mikey Sheryl]

So, yes, let's. Let's make it a monthly thing.

[Tara Palmeri]

Okay, Sounds good. Cheers.