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Tara Palmeri
Welcome to the Red Letter and the Tara Palmieri Show. I have a very special guest on today, Marika Chartuni. I have known Marika since 2019. I've known her since I started reporting on the Jeffrey Epstein story. And Marika is a woman of incredible talent in terms of investigations and the ability to put pieces together and. And to really dig into a lot of the files, which is what. This Epstein case is just flooded with his files and documents, so many of them redacted, and she's able to really put together the pieces. And we worked on a podcast together, Broken Jeffrey Epstein. We traveled around the country together, knocking on doors with Virginia Giuffre, who is one of the most prominent derivatives of Jeffrey Epstein. She accused Prince Andrew of sexual assault, and the Crown was forced to pay her in the only civil settlement they've ever settled. And, you know, so this is something that we worked on very closely in a determination to. For justice and just to be able to cooperate the stories, as so many of these women then girls have been discredited throughout their lives. So it's a pleasure to have you on Marika. And Marika and I talk frequently, probably almost every day, and I think I've been really impressed with your determination to help your survivor sisters and to get down to the bottom of the story.
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Marika Chartuni
Thanks so much for having me.
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Tara Palmeri
So, as someone who has looked into a lot of these files, like I have, what did you make of this birthday book, this 50th birthday book that the House Oversight Committee found or not found, they subpoenaed from Epstein's estate, and it was handed over. And, I mean, what did. What were your first thoughts when you went through it? I. I just find I finally just finished going through all of it. But what were you thinking?
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Marika Chartuni
I mean, it just validates everyone's story. I mean, you know, validates Virginia's story. It just shows how many people are involved. And, you know, I don't see how so many people could be involved and just turn a blind eye to all of us and just have Selective amnesia and, you know, slam the door in your face and pretend, you know, and not cooperate with law enforcement, not cooperate with the lawyers, not cooperate with the FBI and just pretend that, you know, we don't exist. And that's, I mean, that's what this shows.
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Tara Palmeri
Yeah, it is. It's really startling actually, when you go through note after note after note from prominent people, and all of them seem to be in on the joke. Right? It's a joke to them. It's a farce. It's a, you know, this man likes young girls. There's even a section called Children in which looks like a child is posing in sexy poses. It is incredibly disturbing, but everyone else seems to think it's a laugh.
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Marika Chartuni
How could so many people know and not care?
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Tara Palmeri
Yeah. You know, it reminds me of some of my reporting going back to his 40th birthday, uh, when they sang a song to him in front of everyone, Les Wexner, many other very powerful men about his 24 hour erections and schoolgirl crushes. So 10 years ago, they were already laughing about all of this. Um, and then the names on this list are incredible heads of financial institutions like Leon Black, who's talking about his quote unquote, wet dream. Blonde, red or brunette, Spread out. This is geographically, this is. I'm just quoting his, his note to Jeffrey Epstein, calling him the Old man and the Sea and describe. And talking about him as a lover, a little, you know, Bill Clinton saying his childlike curiosity. What does that, what does that mean? It's. The whole thing is about naked women. I mean, there's literally a cartoon of him being massaged all over his body by naked.
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Marika Chartuni
I know.
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Tara Palmeri
Not women. Girls. Um, they're.
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Marika Chartuni
It shows that they're complicit, doesn't it?
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Tara Palmeri
Yeah, it shows that they. Exactly. I mean, they were in the very least, enablers and did nothing about it. And at some point when you don't, you don't do something about a crime or you don't do anything about it, at what point are you among the guilty yourself? Right. Um, I mean, even now, I remember in 2020 when we were traveling around and a lot of times we were knocking on the doors of just women, Right, who were there and asking them to help us, you know, cooperate the story or give us their recollection. They slammed the door in your face and Virginia's face. And, you know, was it so hard for them to say what they saw? Did they feel shame because they didn't do anything about it? They just not want to be associated with Jeffrey Epstein, you know, a pedophile, known pedophile. So many of those women, by the way, went back, came back into his life after he got out of prison as a sex offender in 2008. And they, they helped him be, they helped him be re. Ingratiated into society. They normalized him. These adult women that were also there, you know, obviously the biggest quote, unquote surprise. I don't know if you would say it, it was a surprise, but President Trump has vehemently disputed that. He wrote this letter, this kind of note to Jeffrey Epstein for his 50th birthday and his birthday book that we're talking about. And in it he says, we have one thing in common, Jeffrey, and may every day be another wonderful secret. You know, suggesting that they have this sort of shared secret. And it's in the, it's in the body of a woman, a naked woman. And his, and his handwriting is where, you know, like the pubic hair would be, that his, his, his, his signature. And, and somehow the White House is saying that that is not his signature. I mean, that's absurd, right? I mean, what do you think about these denials? Like when President Trump says something like this is a dead issue. That's what he called it this morning when asked about it.
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Marika Chartuni
I mean, I mean, I mean, what do you say to that? I mean, it's pretty obvious that, I mean, they're just going to deny it and deny it and deny it. Are they just trying to control the narrative? I mean, when a child gets, you know, get in trou. Gets in trouble or gets caught doing something wrong, I mean, they usually lie, right?
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Tara Palmeri
Yeah, yeah. No, it's true. I mean, the other thing that was interesting and I, and I didn't know about this and it wasn't reported, was there is a picture of a, a check supposedly signed by Donald Trump. And I'll grant you, it doesn't really like his signature in this one. But the letter, the note says it's, it's Jeffrey with his friend Paul. I'm blanking on his last name. Do you remember this man's last name? You know, okay, so it's Jeffrey, a friend and a, and a, and a woman, girl, we don't know. Her face is blacked out. And it says, quote, jeffrey showing early talents with money. Oh, and they're holding a big check signed by Donald Trump for $22,500. Assuming that this is in payment for the girl. Right. This is what you are supposed to assume from this picture. Jeffrey showing early talents with money and women sells fully depreciated to Donald Trump for 22,500 show. It showed early people skills, too. Even though I handled the deal, I didn't get any money on the girl. I mean, they're. It's a joke. It's a joke to them.
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Marika Chartuni
It just shows how complicit they are and how they. I mean, what else can you say? I mean, it's just kind of mind boggling. I mean, there's really no words to put to it. I'm, you know, I mean, I mean, I don't even know how to respond to that.
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Tara Palmeri
You know, I know it's upsetting. Yeah. Tammy said that grosses me out more than the drawing. And in a lot of ways it does because it's just very dehumanizing. It is. It really is. It's dehumanizing. And I know with the, you know, President Trump's comments, I could grab him by the pussy. They said, you know, that's. That's just locker room talk. Right. But at what point, you know, is it an awareness of a crime and just looking the other way and not that. That's right. Grabbing someone by the pussy is a crime. This is crime, you know, affecting children. And it's just a joke. This is all like. It's just, you know, people say to me a lot, oh, it was a different time. It was a different time then. Do you hear that a lot, Marika? It was a different time then.
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Marika Chartuni
Yeah, but that's rationalizing it.
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Tara Palmeri
Yeah. Yeah, it is. It certainly paints a picture of a web of very powerful people around Jeffrey Epstein who do not want to have these connections that are showing that they are at least in. In the very least aware of his depraved behavior.
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Marika Chartuni
Yeah, I mean, they got called out. But with releasing this, it.
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Tara Palmeri
Does it make you hopeful that there'll be more information that comes out?
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Marika Chartuni
I hope so. I think everyone hopes so.
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Tara Palmeri
How do you feel realistically? I know you're a realist, so.
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Marika Chartuni
You know, it's political, so we don't know.
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Tara Palmeri
Yeah, yeah. Speaking of which, I thought you did something very brave last week. Marika actually whipped votes or tried to. I don't know if you want to tell the story about what happened in the airport with Harriet Hageman, the Republican congresswoman from Wyoming. She is the Cheney slayer. She was the one who brought down Liz Cheney after Liz Cheney led the January 6th committee. She, you know, claimed she was destroying the Republican establishment by taking down Liz Cheney. And Marika saw her in the airport and decided to approach her, which, by the way, I thought was really brave. So tell me about what happened.
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Marika Chartuni
Well, it was. We just happened to be on the same flight flying out of Washington, going to Chicago. And I just thought I had an opportunity to connect with her and show, you know, the human side of, you know, the survivors. And just I. So I just walked up to her and just told her who I was and, you know, took her hand and shook it and said, will you please, you know, vote for her because we need your support. And I wanted to connect with her in that space.
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Tara Palmeri
And just to be clear with everyone, there are about, at that time, Republicans only needed two more votes to pass a bill that Thomas Massie, a Republican, and Ro Khanna, Democrat from Silicon Valley, are trying to. To pass that would compel the Department of Justice to release the Epstein files in full. And they only needed two more votes. So it was not crazy or irrational. If you could have walked up there to her and convinced her to vote for this bill, that would been a game changer. And then it would come down to only one vote. And I think the dominoes could have fell. Now Massie is now saying, Thomas Massie, the Congressman, is saying that they may not need those two votes anymore because there are some Democratic absences. They may have enough votes to pass this bill with just Democrats and a handful of Republicans. And those Republicans, by the way, are women. Marjorie Taylor Greene, Nancy Mc Open about her own sexual assault, and Lauren Boebert. They're the only ones who have been willing to defy the president who said it would be a hostile act, according to sources at various news outlets, to vote in favor of this bill that would compel the release of the Epstein files. So I think, you know, it was totally normal for you to walk up to her and make your case. The thing that I found to be pretty upsetting because I know we spoke after you had this conversation with the congresswoman was what she told you. I don't know if you want to relay that type of.
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Marika Chartuni
Yeah, I mean, she said she did. And she looked at me. The conversation was very brief and explaining who I was. And I got a little teary eyed. I don't even know why. I think it was just a very emotional week too, and just connecting with someone that does have, you know, the power to make a difference. I think that, I mean, it was a lot of emotions at once. And she said I did. She just said, I, yes. And I mean, it was her, you know, and then she. We parted ways, which she meant she.
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Tara Palmeri
Said I voted yes. Which obviously I thought for a second, I was like, wait, she did, she's voting with them. And I did a little Google search and I thought. And then I saw, oh no, she means she voted for the countermeasure which would essentially kick this Epstein quote unquote probe back to the House Oversight Committee. And as we know, the committee is very much controlled by the President of the United States. It is run by Republicans, James Comer. I mean, they finally agreed to subpoena Alex Acosta, who was the U.S. attorney at the time and hatched the sweetheart deal in 2008 for Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah, I thought that was, I know, a really telling moment because she really did have the power and instead sort.
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Marika Chartuni
Of, I think, I think it was really disappointing. But I mean, you're, you know, as an, I mean, you kind of feel helpless. That's the problem.
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Tara Palmeri
Yeah, again.
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Marika Chartuni
And I'm being re traumatized by, you know, politicians.
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Tara Palmeri
You know, I wrote this in my substack note that, you know, I'm used to being lied to by politicians. You know, I'm a journalist. I think we all are. But to like have someone straight to your face after you just flew in from Washington State and we're rallying out on the lawn outside of the Capitol and supporting your survivors sisters and like having a lot of really emotional moments. I mean, you reconnected with your, the woman who recruited you to Jeffrey Epstein for the first time. You had like a, this was a really historic, important moment to sort of have it end that way with someone just.
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Marika Chartuni
I know it ended on a note which was, I don't want to say it was telling, but it was just like it, you know, it's hard to like articulate. We were like, you know, doing a lot of interviews. We were there connecting with each other. We were doing the rally, talking to a lot of politicians. I mean, it was, it was, we felt very vulnerable and, and I felt like I had to take that opportunity to, you know, even be more vulnerable and ask for more support and I, you know, I couldn't pass that opportunity up.
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Tara Palmeri
Yeah, no, I think you, I think. Why not? I mean, that's your shot. If that, if she had actually taken your, if she was moved enough to stand up to the President of the United States and do the right thing, I mean, that would have been a, that would have been a really historic moment. It would have been a really big day. But, you know, she's now very firmly a part of the establishment. She claims she came in there trying to take down. Right. It's just, it's, it's President Trump's establishment at this point. It's his swamp. And, you know, I did think that was some. It was really interesting to me what Thomas Massie said last week when he said that this story is really about draining the swamp. Because, as you know, and I know if you look at those names that, that 50th birthday book, right. If you look at the names in the little black book, if you look at the people that, that Epstein donated to, if you look at the financial institutions around him, so many of those people are the donors, the wealthy donors to the Washington system, the ecosystem of Washington, and it's so incestuous. And so to truly root that out, you're basically, you're, you're destroying the system that they all make money off of.
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Marika Chartuni
Yeah, I know it's an uphill battle.
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Tara Palmeri
You've been working on it for a long time, which I'm so impressed with.
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Marika Chartuni
Virginia and Maria have been doing it much longer. I mean, Virginia's no longer with us, sadly, but, I mean, she inspired so many survivors to speak out, including me. And, I mean, Maria's been doing this since, you know, 1996. I mean, this is. I mean, that sounds like, what, 30 years? I mean, you know, I've only been doing this for sex.
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Tara Palmeri
Yeah. When you think about it that way. Right.
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Marika Chartuni
I know.
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Tara Palmeri
I do think it's, it's, it's important because it's clear that law enforcement's not interested in helping. Right. It's clear that the politicians, maybe some of them are unclear. Right. Has, you know, I mean, of hope.
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Marika Chartuni
I mean, I think there are some good guys out there that do want to help.
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Tara Palmeri
Yeah. Does it feel like the survivors are the only ones who, who have their own, who are, who are truly pushing the story forward? Do you feel like you're kind of stuck doing this for yourself because there's no one else to fight for you? You have to fight for yourself.
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Marika Chartuni
And we have each other and we're not going away. I'll just say that. And if anything, that's just kind of galvanized us and made us stronger, and we're just going to keep on pushing and fighting.
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Tara Palmeri
Yeah. The one thing I gathered so when Lisa Phillips, who was a very rousing survivor on the steps of the Capitol Hill, she said, we're going to come up with our own list, I sense there was like, a, like a lot of excitement or just like, energy coming from, from her and the support that she felt from the survivors. But I have to say, like, later on at night, I sensed when I was talking to the survivors that, like, there's actually a lot of fear that this, that they. They understand that what Lisa's suggesting is not an easy route for them and that.
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Marika Chartuni
No, I mean, I. I think it was maybe a little bit taken out of context. I think it definitely, you know, made headlines and it was sensational, but. And got lots of attention. But it's not up to us. It's too. I mean, far too dangerous to produce. You know, that's up to law enforcement. That's up to government. It's up to the lawyers. It's not up to us.
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Tara Palmeri
Yeah, Evan said there needs to be a nonprofit providing security for you all. And I do think people don't understand the level of harassment that goes on behind the scenes to whistleblowers, to survivors, to truth tellers, even, you know, the lawyers, to journalists. It comes to this story because of the power, the powers that be and how they would like it to go away. You know, I, I think about what Lisa said, too. And I also spoke with Sigrid McAuley, who I believe is your lawyer. Right.
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Marika Chartuni
But.
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Tara Palmeri
And, and she said, you know, they. That these. That the survivors want the. The Epstein files be public because it takes the burden off of them to have to say the names because the burden, they say even if it's true, they're going to be sued for defamation. They're going to be in court for the rest of their lives. I mean, look at what. Virginia was one of the few women who came forward and told her story. I mean, I know. And she. You and I remember this.
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Marika Chartuni
Yeah.
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Tara Palmeri
She was broken down from the battles that she suffered because of it.
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Marika Chartuni
And. Yeah. And she more than anyone, wanted these files released and one of the names released. And if anything, this book, you know, being released, like, validates her story.
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Tara Palmeri
Wow.
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Marika Chartuni
And validates, you know, everything that she told us. So, you know, she received, you know, so much hate and she received, you know, everyone calling her a liar. But for what?
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Tara Palmeri
Yeah. Yeah, it was exactly. I mean, she. I. One of. One of the survivors said we wouldn't be here without her. But in a way, I Find that. I feel like she sacrificed herself for the movement.
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Marika Chartuni
Yeah.
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Tara Palmeri
I mean, she really did.
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Marika Chartuni
Yeah. Her bravery really. I mean, touched a lot of people.
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Tara Palmeri
But it came at a toll. You know, it came at personal toll. We saw it up close.
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Marika Chartuni
Yeah, that was.
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Tara Palmeri
Yeah, yeah.
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Marika Chartuni
Justice and.
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Tara Palmeri
Yeah. Just.
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Marika Chartuni
She really wanted to hold everyone accountable.
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Tara Palmeri
Yeah, she did. Yeah.
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Marika Chartuni
And that's. Anything. We're just fighting on her behalf now, and that's what we do. I know it's hard.
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Tara Palmeri
Yeah, it's hard. It's been hard for.
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Marika Chartuni
But I mean, you know, you know, we're here as a collective now.
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Tara Palmeri
Right.
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Marika Chartuni
And to seek justice on her behalf. And, you know, and you have to remind everyone, Maria did report this to the FBI in 1996. And Maria's been waiting for justice for 30 years.
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Tara Palmeri
Yeah.
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Marika Chartuni
You know, I mean, we all. You know, and she suffered immensely, too.
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Tara Palmeri
Right. And there's so many that women that we don't know. The FBI estimates a thousand, which is. I mean, his entire 50th birthday book. Almost all of it, all 274 pages, except for maybe a few of the pages from her mother. His mother. Excuse me. All reference sexual depravity with young girls.
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Marika Chartuni
Yeah. Everyone knew, and nobody cared.
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Tara Palmeri
Even from when he was a kid, they're talking about how he was touching the rabbi girls, the. The daughter of the rabbi's breasts. It was just so. You know, this was just. So this was who he was. Yeah. I mean, the book is. Is truly illuminating. It's hard to look away. And it's in handwriting. It's, you know, it's real. There's no. This is a democratic hoax. Like, this is not. You know, this is. This is a real thing. But we'll see. I mean, the estate came forward with. With. With some evidence. I doubt the Justice Department, even if they are compelled by this law, will actually release anything, because a lot of men fought really hard to make sure that their names were redacted. Right. I mean, that was a big part of it in court. They fought really hard. They were very powerful men and spent a lot of money to make sure their names were redacted.
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Marika Chartuni
Yeah.
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Tara Palmeri
And I. And I get, you know, to say their name. You know, it's. It's. It's. It's unfortunate that. And we do live in this. This. I've said this a million times, this period of extreme lawfare. The burden of proof is on the victims and the survivors, many of whom were younger and, you know, kids. They don't have, you know, the proof per se. Some do Some others don't. And it was so complicated because he made them all feel like they were guilty because they had recruited their own friends. Like, that was the one thing I found so interesting in the story of Courtney Wilde, who was. Was recruited at 13, I think, or 12. 12 or 13. And brought her best friends from school and their friends, and they created that pyramid scheme in that high school outside of Palm Beach. And they basically convinced that all the girls, that they were all prostitutes and they were all the ones in trouble when Jeffrey was being investigated. And they offered. Jeffrey. Jeffrey offered them lawyers to protect them. They thought they needed protection. And he was playing with the minds of children, teenage girls, I think. What. People forget about that all the time. And he really did. He really did. They preyed on the vulnerable. And I think that's something you're going to see, too, from Virginia's book, too.
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Marika Chartuni
And how much manipulation there was.
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Tara Palmeri
Mm. And we've talked about this, too. There are so many girls. Sorry. There are so many girls who have decided to take their own lives, and we don't even know how many, but we know a handful, at least.
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Marika Chartuni
Yeah. And a lot of them suffer from addiction problems as well. I know. I mean, he ruined so many people's lives. I mean, and so many are, like, lasting. You know, the lasting harm from. From, like, talking to so many different victims. I mean, it's. It's kind of devastating.
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Tara Palmeri
But it was all a laugh, Right?
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Marika Chartuni
There's, like, a laugh. It's a laugh. It's just a transaction. I mean, they're just. I'm no different than a, you know, fancy car. That's how they're looked at.
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Tara Palmeri
Yeah.
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Marika Chartuni
They're just property. I mean, it's. You know, if they're. I mean, it's. I mean. I mean, the level of depravity. I don't know.
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Tara Palmeri
Yeah. Yeah. Yep. And even the. The story in the New York Times, which I highlighted, that shows that JP Morgan was willing to continue to bank his money after he was indicted for being a sex offender. Like, I think they. They said he was a level three sex offender, which mean he was most likely to resume.
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Marika Chartuni
Yeah. Reassent. But, you know, money's more important than people.
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Tara Palmeri
The thing that really made me. That really upset me. Mar. Was reading that JP Morgan was setting up bank accounts for girls that were under 18 without any.
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Marika Chartuni
I know.
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Tara Palmeri
Of who they were.
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Marika Chartuni
I know.
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Tara Palmeri
Yeah. And it went all the way to the top. It was all the way at the top. It was all the way to Jess Staley, who was Sipping a white wine in the hot tub, emailing Epstein about Snow White or Beauty and the Beast. Which girl would he get next?
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Marika Chartuni
And just those two lines again, I mean, again, take away the person's humanity.
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Tara Palmeri
Right. Is there any hope here? How did. Is there anything positive to end with on this? Like what. What do you. Is there a bright spot for you?
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Marika Chartuni
Well, we. This is my sisters. We all have each other and we're supporting each other. And we're. If anything, this just galvanized us to, you know, work can be louder and to speak out. And a lot of women just recently came forward that have never come forward. And I think more will. And yeah, we're not going away.
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Tara Palmeri
Yeah.
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Marika Chartuni
You know, there needs to be more accountability. And if anything, I think the public wants to see more accountability. I mean, that's been hopeful. That's been nice to see.
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Tara Palmeri
Anoushka DiGiorgio, who spoke on Capitol Hill, was always had a Jane Doe pseudonym. She never came out with her own name. And she was there on the lawn. She spoke out for the first time as herself. It was very powerful. A lot of women then girls came out finally, even after. Even though she cooperated in the Glenn Maxwell trial. But, you know, under the pseudonym, that was really powerful. And she spoke directly to Trump and said, you have the power to do this now. And what a lot of people don't know is that she actually has a history with President Trump, that she dated him. Yeah. So. And that I think she was actually connected to him through Glenn, I believe at some point. I mean, I think that she dated. She dated him as an adult. But it's a. It's all very incestuous. I think also from that book, I just realized that Trump is, you know, I've been reporting on their friendship. But you look at that book referenced twice in the book. One the girl that they supposedly, you know, sold to. Even it was just a gag thing. But also the letter. And so it just reminds you like this person is twice mentioned in his 50th birthday book. I know he's a friend. He's on the friends list. So is Bill Clinton. So were another of other luminaries. I wonder who the two were that were black blocked out. Were. I know, I think maybe maybe they were foreign dignitaries or something like that. I don't know.
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Marika Chartuni
I know this is curious.
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Tara Palmeri
Curious. It's the redactions. All right. Anything last. Anything you want to say to last words.
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Marika Chartuni
I'm. No, I mean, we're still going to be speaking out. Everyone that I know, and everyone I talk to, I mean, we're not going away. And thanks for everyone's support.
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Tara Palmeri
Yeah. Yep. Thanks for everyone too for subscribing to the red letter, for being here. I got Marika to join Substack, so hopefully you will start to see some postings on here. And thank you all to everyone who's, who has been supportive of me and my journalism and the many survivors that I have had the chance to interview, to get to know over the years and to really, truly find my, to really, truly admire and to learn a lot from. So this has been a story I, even before the story re broke again, you could say whenever people would ask me what was the most important, what's been the most important work of your career? And I always go back to this story. This has been the most important work of my career. And you know, I've covered politics, corruption, city hall, moved to Europe, lived in Brussels, was a White House correspondent. But to me, this one has always been a story very close to me. And it's probably, it's because of the people that I have met while, while doing it and working on it and feeling like, you know, there's, if there's one thing that's truly, truly matters in life, it's, it's, it's making sure that we have justice for everyone in, in this country. So not just in this country, you know, everywhere, but that we make sure that all voices are heard.
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Marika Chartuni
Yes. Well, we appreciate your work. Thank you.
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Tara Palmeri
Of course. No, thank you. Couldn't do it without you guys. About you too, specifically. Okay, thanks everybody. And I'll be back again this week with a summer more reporting. It's just breaking so quickly. Who knows what will happen by the end of the day, what will come for it. Okay, bye.
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Marika Chartuni
Bye.
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Tara Palmeri
I want to thank my producer Eric Abenate, Adam Stewart, who handles my thumbnails, and Abby Baker on my social media. If you want to support my independent journalism and get my scoop straight to your inbox, please sign up for the red letter. You can do that by going to Tara Palmeri dot com. That's T A R A P A L M E R I dot com. You can obviously share this with your friends. Like subscribe, leave a written review. I'm not backing down. I'm back from my vacation. I feel so much stronger. Thank you to all of you who have sent me notes. Just turned 38 and it's gonna be 30. Great. And I really feel positive about what I am able to accomplish with this community. What we can all do. And I appreciate all the tips and everything you've sent to me. And of course, I'll be in D.C. on Wednesday, so check out my social media. I'll be on. I'll be on msnbc. I'll be on Nicole Wallace's show. I'll be doing a live on Substack with Terry Moran. You can go to Substack. I'm on there at Tara Palmeri. And I'll be live from the capital. So check out all of my social media, check out my podcasts, everything. I will be there. Twitter, X, whatever they're calling it now. I'll be back again soon. Your sausage McMuffin with egg didn't change your receipt did. The sausage McMuffin with egg extra Value meal includes a hash brown and a small coffee for just $5 only at McDonald's for a limited time.
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