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Results may vary. Welcome back to the Tara Palmeri Show. So last night, I didn't sleep very well. I haven't been sleeping very well lately, to be honest. But I was on Chris Hayes's show last night, and it was anchored by Antonia Hilton, and she asked me a really interesting question. She asked me who I would call before Congress to testify in epine hearings. Right, because we know that Hillary Clinton is being called. We know that Les Wexner, the billionaire founder of Victoria Secrets and a man who was one's name is a possible co conspirator with Jeffrey Epstein and who Virginia Giuffre accused of sexual abuse, is now going to have to testify. I would love for this testimony to be all behind in front of cam on camera so that the entire public could see. Right. But she asked me a really interesting question, which nobody's really asked me before, but, like, would you call who would your list of who would your list be? And I thought about it. In fact, the wheels were turning all night, which explains why I'm so tired. But in the morning, I tried to write down all the people that I could think of. And so I want to go through it with you. And of course, I want to hear who you think should be called, because I know you're reading the files, too, and I'm sure you see a lot of names coming up over and over again. Okay, so Ehud Barack, former prime Minister of Israel, stayed in Epstein's condo, very close with him. Virginia Giuffre accused him of sexual abuse. We gotta know about that. And whether Jeffrey Epstein had any connections with Israel or was passing off any intelligence to Ehud Barak. Marie Villafania was the lead investigator on the 2008 case in Florida. She was working under Alex Acosta, and she came up with more than 60 counts against. Against Jeffrey Epstein. That case was dropped. I have tried many times to reach Marie Vania. I had to go through her lawyer on the Broken Jeffrey Epstein podcast. I want to know what she knows. I Want to know what happened in that office, and I want to know what. How a really upstanding prosecutor ended up on the wrong side of the story. Ken Starr. I know attorney client privilege, but Ken Starr was Jeffrey Epstein's lawyer. And I really think that he was picked mainly because of his connections to the George W. Bush administration. Yeah. So he went all the way up to the attorney General at the time, in the 2008 Sweetheart deal. So I wanted to know why and what he knew. Adam Perry Lang, the celebrity chef who worked for Jeffrey Epstein on his Zorro ranch. That's where he learned how to grill barbecue. Well, Adam Perry Lang is a real celebrity, like on Jimmy Kimmel. Besties with him had his own restaurant in West Hollywood. Apl. And he talks about how he learned how to barbecue on this ranch from a wealthy client, but never mentions that it's Jeffrey Epstein. He is all over the flight logs. Apl. That's Adam Perry Lang. And he knew the victims very well. He fed them. He fed the men, he fed everyone. He knew so much eyes and ears. And I actually tried to contact him, and so did Virginia Giuffre when we worked on the Broken Jeffrey Epstein podcast. Would be great to hear it from him in front of cameras. John Kerry, who received a donation from Jeffrey Epstein, knew him well. Epstein writes about him. Would love to hear about their relationship. The Maxwell brothers, and I mean, Glenn Maxwell's brothers. I mean, Ian and Kevin. What do they know about their father's relationships with Mossad, MI6, Russia's intelligence? Like, what did they know about their father since they were running the. The Daily Mirror for him? I would love to hear from them. I'd love to hear from the various attorney Generals for the past three decades, heads of the FBI, CIA, including Bill Burns, who was also the CIA during the Biden administration, and ex Secretary of State, who was very close with Jeffrey Epstein. Was he getting tips from Jeffrey Epstein when they met? Was he getting information, intelligence? I'd love to hear from him. Elon Musk, who wanted to party on the island with Jeffrey. Girls, girls, girls. That's. That's based on the emails. Elon, tell us everything you know. Peter Attia. Disgusting. Ugh. Gross. Doctor. Ugh. Spend time with Jeffrey Epstein instead of his own child in icu. I want to hear from you and everything you know about Jeffrey Epstein. Andrew Mount, Bouton Windsor. Tell us everything that you know about Virginia Giuffre. Jeffrey Epstein. Come on over, Andrew. Now. Can't be as bad as your own country, right? I also named some journalists on this show that I think need to testify. And I would never normally say that because I just don't consider these people to be actual journalists, considering they were actually giving Jeffrey Epstein image advice, giving him advice on how to shake the, the sex pest sex offender profile that he had. At least that's how they saw him as a sex pest, not as an actual predator. Howard Lutnick, our commerce secretary, why did you want to go to Jeffrey Epstein's island? And why did you deny that you had any, any sort of connection to him despite being his neighbor and saying that you went to his house only once with this, your wife? What else are you hiding? Dr. Oz, why did you invite him to a Valentine's day party in 2016 after he was, after he was a sex offender? Larry Summers. Oh, gross. Asking Jeffrey Epstein for love advice, too. Yeah. Let's hear from you. Michael Cohen, Donald Trump's fixer forever. Michael. Michael, tell us about Katie Johnson and the other victims of Jeffrey Epstein who came forward and accused President Trump. Tell us everything you know, because you told me on this show, which you can watch on the Tara Palmary show, that there was a Jane Doe that you dealt with and Trump told you to take care of it, that it was, and you sent a private investigator to find her. Couldn't find her. It was dropped. Tell us everything that you're not telling us, everything we need to know. Leslie Grof, Epstein's longtime assistant, who apparently is just living a very comfortable life now. Sarah Kellen, another assistant. Noam Chomsky. I know he's old, but why not call him, right? Tom Barrick, the glue between Trump and Epstein. Oh, by the way, Trump. But I say that on the show. That's so obvious, right? Maybe even Melania, which I also mention on the show. Benjamin Netanyahu, Vladimir Putin, Paolo Zampoli, who apparently introduced Melania to Trump. Why not have him there, too? Why not call him? He's mentioned in the files a lot. He knows Epstein. I know that's a lot of people. And we'll never get Benjamin Netanyahu or Vladimir Putin there or probably Andrew. But a girl can dream. And I just wanted to throw it out there. And I want to hear from you. I'm sure there are people I missed. I'm not pretending that this is the full list. This is the list that my brain on a cup or two of coffee could do, but these are the people that are coming to mind. Oh, of course. There are others that I named, by the way, and that's on the show. But that was when she asked me, and I only had five seconds to actually really think. I wrote a piece for Vanity Fair last week, by the way, and it was called How Jeffrey Epstein's Ghost is Calling all the Shots in the Trump White House. And I really go into detail into how Jeffrey Epstein is truly controlling Trump's legacy. And while they had a very close friendship in the 90s, that turned into a rivalry that actually Epstein is winning that rivalry in death. The because Trump cannot wag the dog enough. Iran, Venezuela, ICE raids to get rid of the Jeffrey Epstein story. Just look at Tuesday night when President Trump is asked about Jeffrey Epstein again on the plane, Air Force One. All he can say is, I've been totally exonerated. Exonerated. Exonerated. Nothing about the victims, nothing about justice, nothing about following through on this. To him, the Jeffrey Epstein story says exoneration. Not thousands and thousands of mentions and questions about why 2.5 million documents are being withheld that we know of for national security reasons. Right. But you got to read this article. It's very interesting. It also has some first person experience from working in the White House. How much Trump cares about the narrative, how much he sets the agenda with his wild tweets. I think you'll find it to be fascinating. And what it's really like for them trying to get rid of this radioactive toxic sludge that is the Epstein story. Not actually pursuing just justice. So, yeah, that's just some of the thoughts I had this morning. Thank you all for tuning in as always and for supporting the show. And you can keep me going on this mission by subscribing and sharing and liking. It's really easy. Just hit that button. Share it with your friends. 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Tara Palmieri is the host of the Tara Palmeri show and author of the Red Letter Substack where she has been reporting all over the Epstein fallout. Tara, it's good to see you so Look, I guess let's begin. Begin with this deposition that's about to happen. I want to know, basically, if you could be in that private room, what questions you would ask Les Wexner at this point.
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Guest/Interviewee (Epstein Expert or Journalist)
I mean, there are so many questions. We know from Virginia Giuffre's deposition and from what she said in the past, that she says that she was trafficked to Les Wexner. It's something that she's told me personally. I think a lot of people want to know, why did Les Wexner give Jeffrey Epstein so much money? He was a huge source of his wealth, especially in the beginning. Why did he help this man, who was a college dropout, become one of the most wealthy people in the world? Why did he associate with him? And why did he send an email after he went to prison and said, be more careful, essentially, try to be more careful. When he went to jail in Palm beach in 2008, that was his response to it. So sorry this has happened to you. You know, why is his name all over the place at Ohio State University? Why has there been no. Why is there no contrition? It just feels. He was named as a coconspirator in a FBI presentation from 2019, when they were actually looking at co conspirators. And why have we seen no fallout.
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Tara Palmeri
From this at all?
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Guest/Interviewee (Epstein Expert or Journalist)
I mean, this is. It's really important that he's finally. He should have been called to stand, frankly, in the Glenn Maximum Maxwell case, and he wasn't. So it's really important that he's now testifying under oath, but it feels like a little too late. He is so integral to the Epstein story. If you want to follow the money, you have to go through Les Wexner. If you hear about the accusations from the women, you have to go through him. And the fact that he remained close with him after this 2008 arrest for soliciting a minor for prostitution.
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Interviewer/Host (Possibly a Co-host or Secondary Host)
Well, there's the fact that it may be too little too late, but there's also the fact that he may basically say nothing when he gets in front of these lawmakers. I mean, I guess we'll. We'll wait to transcript after the fact, but we just saw that happen with Ghislaine Maxwell. I'm curious to who you would have on your laundry list of people who need to be next in terms of, you know, brought in front of lawmakers or the public? Of course, ideally, to answer for questions. Leon Black may be sort of the most important, arguably financial figure in Epstein's life, but there are others. I mean, there's less Wexner, there's Leon Black, there's the Dubin family, incredibly connected and powerful people who have their names on institutions, as you just spelled out. When do we hear from them?
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Guest/Interviewee (Epstein Expert or Journalist)
I would ask Alan Dershowitz to come forward as well, his own lawyer. I would ask Jess Staley, who was his banker for a very long time, including after he spent time in jail. I'd ask Kathy Rummler, who just had to depart from Goldman Sachs, to come in and testify. I'd ask some of the journalists who got very close to Jeffrey Epstein and gave him advice, image advice, and have tapes that they're holding onto, like Michael Wolf and Steve Bannon and Thomas Landon, who we saw in an email with Jeffrey Epstein, said, you know, here's some advice. You want to distance yourself from Andrew since, you know, Virginia Roberts was working for you and Virginia Roberts had sex with Prince Andrew. And, you know, Jeffrey doesn't deny that, although he makes a lot of exceptions to a number of other things. Calling Jane does one and two strippers. But, like, he has no, he doesn't take any exceptions. He does not refute that email from a New York Times reporter. It's incredible to me how many people remain close to Jeffrey Epstein. You could call in people for days, literally for days. People coming in to sit down and talk about their longstanding relationships with Jeffrey Epstein. For years, President Trump, he was friends with Jeffrey Epstein before emails, really. And we don't know really anything about his relationship with him in the 90s. And so why not call him in? Why not talk to him about the parties they threw together and what they know? And even Melania Trump knew Jeffrey Epstein. And Glenn Maxwell. Glenn Maxwell called her sweet pea. Have her come in. Everybody should come in and they should have to talk about what happened. And then the heads of various, you know, not just banks, but academia, Bill Gates. It's like every institution has at least one person who needs to be called in to test, you know, on that. And actually, they should be.
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Interviewer/Host (Possibly a Co-host or Secondary Host)
There's a line in the red letter, a post that you wrote, that said the Epstein story isn't just about abuse, as horrific and devastating as it was. It's about leverage. It's about intelligence. And that's something that you hear people, I think, sort of off air, talk about a lot, the discussions around that. You also see it in terms of what we're seeing internationally. There seems to be a lot of accountability happening overseas right now, a little less of it here at home. So why do you think it is that country. Other countries are able to have certain conversations about his political and potential intelligence connections. Just the larger web here, and they seem to be having more frank conversations than we're capable of nationally here in this country.
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Guest/Interviewee (Epstein Expert or Journalist)
I know you would think that people would be shouting from the rooftops that there is an email from his lawyers after, from asking for affiliation, signs of affiliation with Jeffrey Epstein and the CIA and the nsa. They're actually reaching out to the NSA and the CIA for something, anything to show that he has some sort of affiliation with the agencies. And they respond with a glomar response, which is a. We can't confirm or deny it because it might harm, you know, national intelligence, classified documents, sources, source materials. They don't say no. You know, they just.
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Tara Palmeri
They don't.
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Guest/Interviewee (Epstein Expert or Journalist)
They won't confirm or deny it. And this is. This is serious. Why would his lawyers be doing that? That's strategy. That is. That is a legal strategy to go to them. So clearly. And he was so close with Bill Burns. He should be called before Congress. He's the ex CIA director, Deputy Secretary of State, who was taking meetings with Jeffrey Epstein. Was he also passing along trips to tips to Bill Burns in those roles? Because as we know, Deputy Secretary State and CIA work very closely together. And I think we need to find out if he was also passing off information to other countries as well and giving them. I mean, he trafficked in blackmail and information. He had a powerful network. He could open up doors.
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Tara Palmeri
He could do so many things.
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Guest/Interviewee (Epstein Expert or Journalist)
He had one of the most powerful networks in the world, which you could understand why that was so valuable to various governments. And so I think we need to. We need to hear from our own Justice Department about that. Was he ever a source?
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Interviewer/Host (Possibly a Co-host or Secondary Host)
Tara, you always do such a great job of breaking this down, and every time I hear you speak on this, I am just reminded that we're. I'm not even sure I know they want this story to end. But I'm still not even sure we're that far from the beginning. Thank you so much for joining me tonight.
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Guest/Interviewee (Epstein Expert or Journalist)
No, we're not. Thank you.
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