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Mayra Amit
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Progressive Critic
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Host/Moderator
Is President Trump too far gone for some of maga's biggest voices? Well, cracks in the base have been forming for months now, but the war with Iran appears to be the tipping point for many of them.
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Guest Commentator 1
It is vile on every level. It begins with a promise to use the US military, our military, to destroy civilian infrastructure in another country, which is to say to commit a war crime, a moral crime, against the people of the country, whose welfare, by the way, was one of the reasons we supposedly went into this war in the first place. There will be nothing like it. Open the Effin Strait. How dare you speak that way on Easter morning to the country. Who do you think you are?
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Host/Moderator
In response, Trump called Carlson a low IQ person and Trump claimed that Carlson calls him all the time. But Trump refuses to answer, adding, quote, I like dealing with smart people, not fools. But Carlson is not the only one who is souring on this war. Matt Walsh says that Trump's second term has spent too much time on foreign adventures and that it's time to turn the attention back home. Marjorie Taylor Greene called Trump's post evil and madness and said that it was time to invoke the 25th amendment. Alex Jones apparently agrees.
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Guest Commentator 2
How do we 25th amendment is asked. The problem is to get the 25th amendment is harder than impeachment. You have to get 2/3 of the House and 2/3 of the so what do we do? Tackle Trump and pretend. Let him pretend he's president and publicly report that he's going through a health issue. Advance takeover. That was the Democrats. I'd stop poking Trump and messing with that only makes it worse. Like, you guys need to watch out. This isn't a guy acting like he's crazy. This is real.
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Host/Moderator
Now, by no means am I suggesting that any of these people are authorities on much, but these are Trump's people. These are the people that Trump used to get elected the first time and the second time. And so the turnaround here is really stark.
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Scott
Scott well, look, they're isolationists and he's not. He never has been. There's been a lot of people in that wing of our politics that wanted to ascribe or attach their views to him. He just never has been. He wasn't in his first term. He hasn't been in his second term. He's been a hawk on Iran his entire adult life. And I see some of these people now saying, gee whiz, we had no idea Donald Trump hated Iran and thought they shouldn't have a nuclear weapon. I mean, take the car key out of your ear for goodness sakes. Like this. This has literally been his position since he was like, 30 years old when the regime took over. So I, I don't know what they've been listening to until now other than this. They wanted always to try to get him to bend to their will. And what they don't understand about Trump is that people bend to his. He's the head of the party and he runs the country, not the podcast.
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Guest Commentator 3
Except that he literally ran on the line, I will end all foreign wars and mocked Jeb Bush, by the way, for being related to George W. Bush and supporting the war.
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Host/Moderator
Glad that you're saying it. I just had preventing Iran for a change.
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Scott
I mean, I don't know time, and
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Host/Moderator
I don't know how many times we need to pull the receipts of Trump arguing that Democrats would take us into war with Iran, Trump arguing that we've spent too much time on regime change in the Middle East. They're not saying this because they made it up out of thin air. They're saying it because Trump ran on it.
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Guest Commentator 3
Yes. And, you know, I'm sorry, I was just going to say that, like, what should worry Scott is that the lines that President Trump uses his base are now using against him, which shows that there is uncertainty right now in the core of his base, the people who actually feed on the media diet of Tucker Carlson and maybe some Alex Jones. Like, these are the people that.
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Scott
Let me just ask you a question. Are you suggesting that the elected president, United States, should run American foreign policy and national security based on the daily podcast rantings?
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Guest Commentator 3
He already runs it based on Fox News.
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Scott
That's crazy.
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Guest Commentator 3
Everything he read.
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Scott
He has to run it based on the circumstances. The circumstances are. I'm not going to let these fanatics get a nuclear weapon, period.
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Guest Commentator 3
One. Only one. One in four Americans actually supports this war. One in four Republicans actually support this war.
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Congress Member
That's false.
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Scott
Republicans support. Republicans support the president.
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Host/Moderator
Trump's not in that New York Post interview about Tucker Carlson. According to the New York Times. He did speak with Carlson just a couple of weeks ago, before this war began, and tried to convince Carlson that it would be okay, he says, because it always is. So they're still communicating. He hasn't disowned these folks. He's still trying to convince them to come over to his side on this war.
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Progressive Critic
Look again. Donald Trump has prosecuted this war by way of truth. Social posts. Okay, so to sit here and say that he doesn't take the word of the podcast bros or anything like that is asinine because we all know that, that he doesn't read. He doesn't read his presidential daily briefings. He, he calls in people and rules by committee and asks, you know, random folks when he's dining in Mar a Lago what he should do on foreign policy. I mean, this is not exactly an example of someone who is stable, who is focused, who actually has strategy. So. And it's clear by what we're seeing, and the American people, including his MAGA base, is looking at this, going, this is not what we voted for. They feel betrayed by him. MAGA has been betrayed by Donald Trump. And they're waking up and seeing that. Talks about.
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Host/Moderator
Tell us a little bit quickly about your piece. You talked to family members who are Trump supporters, right?
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Guest Commentator 3
So over Christmas, my family, they are core MAGA supporters. They are not swing voters. They believe Trump. It is part of their identity. Okay. When I saw them over Easter four months later, all they could talk about was how they were betrayed. They were betrayed. They did not want to go into a war where there was no end game. They were fearful that there would be a draft, that their children would be drafted one day. They saw Afghanistan, they looked back at Iraq. They thought, this is not what we signed up for. It's more expensive, inflation. None of the things that they thought that President Trump was going to do were actually happening. And there was uncertainty. Things don't add up. That is what they kept saying. And they started asking me questions and believe me, I'm a black sheep in the family.
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Host/Moderator
If you're on a 40 seconds, I
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Guest Commentator 1
was just going to say one thing
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Congress Member
that the crazies pointed out that I think is right is domestic stuff. And there's been a lot less focus on. People are struggling with high costs, are getting crushed right now. The tariffs now, the gas prices, rent, energy prices. And like, that is not part of the conversation. And that's got to be part of the conversation. I think that's been really, that's been lost. I think it's one of the things pissing everyone off and is on his base.
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Progressive Critic
Well, also because the numbers show it. We have a record number of veteran foreclosures because Trump has cut what's gone on at the va. We have record numbers of bankruptcies policies for farmers because Trump has betrayed them. We have people that we have less jobs created under Donald Trump than we did under Joe Biden that he's betrayed our blue collar workers. So it's reflected in the polls, Scott. And I don't think you're telling the American people they're stupid for what they're feeling. Are you?
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Host/Moderator
We got to leave it there. Everyone, thank you very much for being here tonight. And next for us, a trend in how the president describes his cabinet officials. That's next.
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Host/Moderator
Tonight, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth is being accused of misleading Donald Trump in his assessment of the war in Iran. In a new report from the Washington Post. Hegseth has served as a top cheerleader for the war effort, often boasting of American military might. But after Iran shot down that F15 at an A10 fighter jet over the weekend, his repeated claims of American invulnerability in Iranian airspace are facing new scrutiny.
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Military Analyst
Starting last night and to be completed in a few days. In under a week, the two most powerful air forces in the world will have complete control of Iranian skies. Uncontested airspace. Iran will be able to do nothing about it. We're hunting and striking death and destruction from above. Iran's air defenses flattened.
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Host/Moderator
Sarah Palmieri is with us at the table. And effectively there's a difference between the types of air dominance that we have. I mean the planes are able to fly largely over the airspace at certain altitudes. But as was demonstrated on Friday, at lower altitudes, pretty more basic weapons can down a plane, which is what happened. I should read this is the Pentagon spokesperson Sean Pennell. He says that scrutiny of Hegseth's public messaging is lies in propaganda. He says Hegseth has provided the commander in chief with decisive military options to achieve our clear scoped objectives. He says the Washington Post is pushing a fake news story. Not surprising. But what do you make of Hegset's public and private performance?
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Guest Commentator 3
I think he is completely off message every time he's speaking. I mean, anyone can tell that Iran still has the ability to shoot down our, our, our, our, our weapons. They're able to shoot down our fighter pilots. I mean this is not a company, a country that has been obliterated. Like the President said this summer, we can't really trust anything he says and I think really can't trust anything the President says either. And that's why so many people, their faith in the administration, it's completely lost. Including among the president's closest allies, like you've seen in the podcast Sphere, and really across his base now, people just don't know who to believe anymore. And when you can't trust anyone, I mean, you turn to conspiracy.
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Scott
You trust General Kaine. He says we've destroyed like 13,000 military targets. You think that's a lie?
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Guest Commentator 3
Not sure.
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Scott
Because the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Kane, we have gotten so much information. This is a career military officer, a man of high honor. And what do you think? I mean, you sit in on the briefings, can we not trust what General Kane is telling us about the military devastation we have wrought on these terrorists?
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Congress Member
We've got the best men and women serving us and the best generals and best intel day to day. Those who work, you know, these are career who do an incredible job. I think part of the frustration, I think that you're getting at as a member of Congress and someone who sits on the Intelligence Committee, I will tell you, you know, we have not been getting the briefings that we should be getting. They have not briefed any. They haven't come and testified before any of the committees about the conflict. You know, it's very difficult to get this information out. And he hasn't laid out to the, the president hasn't laid out to the country in a clear way and in order to the Congress of what are the objectives? How do we know what a win looks like? And I think you were laying out a lot of the things of what we hope and hope to have accomplished or hope to accomplish in the future. And I know that I want to make sure we've gotten done diminishment on, you know, on the missiles, on the drone program, on the terror program, on their nuclear program. Right. Those are all key objectives. We're just not getting the information that we need to be making some of these calls and to know really what to believe and what not to believe. And that's the frustration.
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Host/Moderator
Also worth noting, the CNN just reported this week that Iran still maintains a lot of its ballistic missile capabilities, its drone capabilities, despite all of that devastation of those 13,000 targets. And then the New York Times had a deep piece today about, based on Maggie Haberman and John Swan's book about how Trump got into this war based on a briefing from Benjamin Netanyahu that made it sound like this would be easy.
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Progressive Critic
Again, you know, at what point do we say that the people who are in leadership are the problem? We're not questioning the integrity of the career military folks, Scott. That's a red herring that you like to throw out. Anytime we criticize the people who they're
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Scott
giving us the information, they're giving us the details.
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Progressive Critic
We're Talking about at 8 o' clock
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Scott
in the morning, General Kaine will stand there next to Hegseth and give us information. You either believe General Kaine or you don't.
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Progressive Critic
Well, General Kaine, what he has been saying is not what's in question, it's about what Hegseth is saying.
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Scott
They look pretty lockstep when they stand there together.
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Guest Commentator 3
No, but they haven't.
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Progressive Critic
And there was also the reporting about how he wasn't completely in agreement before we went into this war. And then all of a sudden that got real quiet again because you know, there's only. But so far they can go when you're a general or Pete Hegseth will fire you. But then again, General Kaine's not black or a woman, so I guess his job is safe. So the problem here is also that the men and women who are the best in the world in our military, you know, we should apologize to them for having to serve under such incompetent leadership. I mean they. The fact that we've got someone who is a morning show host, unserious cosplaying G.I.
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Scott
joe frat boy won the popular vote, won the electoral.
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Progressive Critic
I'm not talking about the draft. I'm not talking about the draft officers serving. I'm not talking about Donald Trump. Let's follow along. I'm talking about Hegseth who was credibly accused of sexual assault, who was credibly accused of running a veterans organization to the ground and who's never run anything
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Scott
as you lost the confirmation battle. So you lost it. It's over. You don't have to keep fighting.
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Progressive Critic
You know what? If you want to keep.
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Scott
You don't want it. You don't. You lost it. These were the same talking points of last year. You lost it.
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Progressive Critic
But the American people who are very upset with what's going on and a lot of MAGA people who don't want their sons and daughters being sent into forever wars that that Pete Hegseth and Donald Trump and all these folks promised they wouldn't do. You can look at the polls and see how in trouble Republicans are because policy by polls.
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Host/Moderator
Let me let Chris have competent people not have a word here before we go. Go ahead, Chris.
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Chris
No, I think, you know, first of all, I don't think it's very fair to have two terrorists from Jersey sitting next to.
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Progressive Critic
That's right. But that's Jersey girl power.
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Chris
Put that aside again. I just think that we get into so many of these. I get it. Hegseth said we have absolute air superiority. Nobody will ever be shot down. That's just ridiculous. I mean there are shoulder held surface to air missiles. I think this was an essay 7 that was Russian made. These can easily be smuggled in. They're always going to exist there. You cannot lose sight that we have through our military decimated what has happened in Iran right now. And it's a safer world because of that. It's safer in Israel. It's safer because Hamas is not going
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Scott
to be getting for anyone who is around.
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Guest Commentator 3
Talk to Lebanon right now. Do you think they think it's a safer world right now?
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Scott
What about the United why did Bahrain
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Chris
put forward a UN resolution and China and that said open the strait and China and Russia said no?
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Scott
Why do you think that world is
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Guest Commentator 3
going to have exactly Iran to get their oil in order to Not a safer world. Iran is rich before Iran is rich.
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Scott
Were they just giving it away for freedom? Was the oil free?
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Host/Moderator
Well, Scott first okay, Scott, we got to go. But listen, Iran was selling oil at a huge discount because it was sanctioned. That oil that is on, that oil that is on the ocean has been unsanctioned by the administration and now they are polling votes.
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Scott
By the way, the war is still
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Host/Moderator
going on straight of four moods. So they are making guys, they are making billions of dollars. That's don't take my word for it. You can go look it up. Next for us some mag. Some of maga's biggest voices are furious now at the President and his handling of this war in Iran. There's even talk in their ranks about invoking the 25th Amendment. We'll discuss what that means next.
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