Trump's Obscene Birthday Message to Epstein REVEALED

Summary

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The Tara Palmeri Show

Episode: Trump’s Obscene Birthday Message to Epstein REVEALED

Host: Tara Palmeri
Date: September 11, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Tara Palmeri, joined by Don Lemon and other contributors, unpacks recent developments in the ongoing Jeffrey Epstein saga—most notably, the revelation of a birthday card purportedly sent from Donald Trump to Epstein. The discussion delves into journalistic integrity, the sweeping influence of Epstein among elites, reactions from political figures and the media, and the implications for victims and the broader public. The conversation is candid, detailed, and charged with the urgency and skepticism that have come to define Palmeri’s reporting style.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Context: The Epstein Files & Trump’s Birthday Card

• Victims and Justice:
  • Tara emphasizes the importance of transparency for Epstein’s victims now that further evidence is surfacing, especially the alleged Trump birthday card.

    “It’s a great day for them because it shows that some of the evidence is coming to light. ... It shows that there’s more there. There’s there there.” (Tara Palmeri, 00:52)

• Legislative Pressure:
  • Current reporting may increase pressure on House Republicans to support legislation compelling DOJ to release Epstein files.
• Journalism’s Role:
  • Palmeri lauds The Wall Street Journal for their steadfast reporting amid Trump’s $10 billion lawsuit, highlighting the role of both independent and institutional journalism.

    “They stuck with their reporting and were willing to go to the mat ... a really good moment for journalism.” (Tara Palmeri, 01:28)

2. White House and Republican Pushback

• Official Denials:
  • Don Lemon reads a statement from Trump’s press secretary, Caroline Leavitt, labeling the story “false” and “fake news to perpetrate the Democrat Epstein hoax.”
  • Don and Tara debate the performative nature of these denials, noting the press secretary’s job often involves defending the indefensible.

    “Their job is to speak for somebody else. Some people do it with a sort of gusto ... It’s particularly endemic to this administration to having to lie.” (Tara Palmeri, 04:18)

3. Other Elites’ Birthday Cards to Epstein

• Palmeri reveals that many other influential figures also sent suggestive or disturbing messages to Epstein, including executives and media owners.
  • Noteworthy: Nathan Myrvold (Microsoft) sent animal mating photos; Les Wexner doodled a woman’s breasts; Mort Zuckerman joked about digging up dirt; Bill Clinton lauded Epstein’s “childlike curiosity.”
• The normalization of “sexual deviance” and open secrets in elite circles is dissected.

  “A lot of the notes to Epstein suggested sexual deviance ... it was all kind of hanging out there in plain sight.” (Tara Palmeri, 05:56)

4. Financial Institutions’ Complicity

• Palmeri and Lemon discuss The New York Times deep dive showing JP Morgan’s ties to Epstein, the bank’s failures to cut him off, and possible broader implications.
  • Notably, the bank set up accounts for minor victims, ignored anti-money-laundering red flags, and facilitated massive funds movement.
• Tara suspects Epstein operated as a “hyper fixer” for both finance and intelligence communities, enabling the scale of his crimes.

  “He was a hyper fixer, not just for financial institutions, but also, I believe from my reporting, with intelligence agencies.” (Tara Palmeri, 09:13)

• The follow-the-money approach (“Senator Ron Wyden is right: follow the money”) is highlighted as key to understanding the ongoing revelations.

5. Conservative & MAGA Reactions to the Card

• Don Lemon references public denials, including JD Vance’s dismissive tweet and right-wing influencer Jack Posobiec’s sarcasm.
  • Signature Debate: MAGA voices contest the authenticity, but signature comparisons are compelling.

    “Remember when they said he doesn’t doodle and then you found out that his doodles were sold at Sotheby’s at auction?” (Tara Palmeri, 11:13)

• Conservative commentators attempt to shift focus or diminish significance, but the “genie won’t go back in the bottle.”

  “One thing that they can’t contain ... This is like the genie they’re trying to put back in the bottle and just will not go back in the bottle.” (Don Lemon, 13:54)

6. Trump and the FBI-Informant Rumor

• House Speaker Mike Johnson briefly asserted Trump was an informant against Epstein, referencing victim attorney Brad Edwards.
• Palmeri clarifies: Trump once provided some assistance to Edwards, but he was not an FBI informant. Trump’s involvement was transactional (linked to personal real estate rivalry), and his actions did not amount to meaningful intervention.

  “That’s what happened. That’s not the FBI informant.” (Tara Palmeri, 18:02)

• Palmeri asserts that by not taking significant action, Trump (and others) were tacit enablers of Epstein’s behavior.

  “When people don’t do anything about it, they become enablers themselves, in my opinion.” (Tara Palmeri, 18:41)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On journalistic courage:

  “Sometimes you just have to ... seeing is believing in this case.”
  — Tara Palmeri (02:31)

• On press secretary spin:

  “I think when you’re a public servant, your job first and foremost is to inform the public of the truth. Right. But am I surprised? No. This seems incredibly plausible to me.”
  — Tara Palmeri (05:03)

• On elite circles all knowing Epstein’s nature:

  “It was all kind of hanging out there in plain sight that this was a deviant, perverted man who just so happened to be really rich.”
  — Tara Palmeri (06:22)

• On financial system complicity:

  “This is a bank participating in sex trafficking essentially ... or facilitating sex trafficking. Excuse me.”
  — Tara Palmeri (08:05)

• On right-wing denialism:

  “They are scrambling so much. It is insane.”
  — Tara Palmeri (11:13)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:52] — Why the latest Epstein revelation is important for victims and journalism
• [04:18] — The role (and compromise) of press secretaries
• [05:56] — Details on other elites' obscene cards to Epstein
• [06:56] — JP Morgan’s and Deutsche Bank’s financial facilitation of Epstein’s crimes
• [09:13] — Tara’s assertion Epstein was more than just a financier: “hyper fixer” for power brokers
• [10:23] — Conservative denials and debate over authenticity of the Trump card and signature
• [13:54] — Don Lemon on right-wing containment efforts: "The genie won't go back in the bottle"
• [14:25] — Brad Edwards and the reality of Trump’s role: subpoena response, not FBI informant
• [18:41] — Palmeri’s closing thoughts on accountability and complicity

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Conclusion

Tara Palmeri’s episode delivers a bracing, detailed dissection of the latest Trump-Epstein revelation, capturing the persistence of elite networks, failures of accountability, and the ongoing challenges for survivors and journalists. She and her guests expose the relentless spinning, institutional rot, and the reality that while truth can be buried, persistent reporting ensures that, eventually, “seeing is believing.”

For more, listen to the full episode or follow Palmeri’s ongoing reporting on Substack and YouTube.

Transcript

[Tara Palmeri]

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[Don Lemon]

Us now is Tara Palmeri. She is a veteran journalist, the author of the Red Letter on Substack and the host of the Tara Palmeri show right here on YouTube. She has reported extensively on this story. Tara, thank you for being patient, letting me set that up. What do you think this means for the victims? You've been covering this story, but specifically I think your reporting has been incredible about the victims. What does this mean for them?

[Tara Palmeri]

I think it's, it's a great day for them because it shows that some of the evidence is coming to light. It puts more pressure on Republican holdouts who refuse to vote for Massie's bill that would compel the Department of Justice to release the Epstein files. It shows that there's more there. There's there there. I also think, Don, it's a great day for the fourth estate. You know, President Trump sued the Wall street journal for $10 billion, accusing them saying that this was not a real letter, not a real birthday card. And I think he used the word non existent. Yes, that's the word non existent. And you know, they stuck with their reporter, they stuck with their reporting and they were willing to go to the mat and report what they knew was true. And they did it without publishing the card, which they could have done all along. I'm sure it's unclear if their source would let them. I think this card was most like what I don't want to say where I think it was. I don't like to reveal sources. But you know, when they had the opportunity to do it, they revealed that they knew they were in the right all along. And I think it's a really good moment for journalism. And you and I are both independent journalists, but I do think we need institutional journalism as well.

[Don Lemon]

And 100 I agree with you because.

[Tara Palmeri]

They can, they can go up against these sort of attacks in a way that you and I are more vulnerable.

[Don Lemon]

They have more resources financially and other. Right. And resources financially, production wise, etc.

[Tara Palmeri]

Yeah, exactly. And they have, you know, the whole, they have the backing of one of the richest men in the world, Rupert Murdoch. In a lot of ways, this is like, you know, and who is a media titan that Trump is obviously friends with at one time. But, like, you know, this is a real moment. And President Trump is used to lying, denying, calling everything a hoax. But sometimes you just have to. They're seeing is believing in this case, and I think in one, it is truly seeing is believing. Now his team is saying that that is not a signature, although it looks to me like his signature.

[Don Lemon]

Well, we're going to talk about that. Listen, this, I want to put this up. Caroline Levitt. This is what she's saying. I'll get your reaction to that. Yeah, show the signature. But Caroline Levitt is saying the latest piece published by the Wall Street Journal proves this entire birthday card was. Story was. Is false. As I said all along, it's very clear President Trump did not draw this picture and he did not sign it. President Trump's legal team will continue to aggressively pursue litigation. Furthermore, the reporter, Joe. What is it? Palazzolo, who wrote the hatchet job, reached out for comment at the exact same minute he published his story, giving us no time to respond. This is fake news to perpetrate the Democrat Epstein hoax. Now, I get it. If it was, you know, the whole thing, you did not, you know, contact or whatever, people all the time say, you know, I, I read stories about me and they say, oh, wait, we reached out to Don Lemon for a comment and have not heard back. And when no one has reached out to me. But that's not, that's besides the point here. I mean, is she delusional? Is she. Does she believe this stuff? Or is it just, this is her job? She's going to have to hold Donald Trump's carry his water regardless of the facts.

[Tara Palmeri]

That's the, that's the, that's what comes with being a press secretary. And it's not just something. I mean, it's particularly endemic to this administration, to having to lie. But we saw it in the last administration and the administration before that and the administration before that and the administration before that. Their job is to speak for somebody else. Some people do it with a sort of gusto and enjoyment, I think. But, I mean, he is saying in the third person, which I thought was very bizarre, which Trump tweeted in the first third person. Donald, like, let me just pull it out because I thought it was so weird. You know what? I can't find it. But it was like, is it from today? Yeah, he truth socialed something in the third person. And it's just so bizarre.

[Don Lemon]

We'll have, let's. We'll have. Let's have. Producer.

[Tara Palmeri]

Yeah, I just thought it was like, it was just very weird. But. Yes. I mean, I'm not giving her any excuses. I think when you're a public servant, your job first and foremost is to inform the public of the truth. Right. But am I surprised? No. This seems incredibly plausible to me. And if you know that the other, the other people that left that also contributed cards to Epstein in this book include people like Nathan Myrvold, top executive at Microsoft, who also included in his birthday card suggestive photos of animals mating and with their penises erect from their trip to Africa. Like, a lot of the, A lot of the notes to. To Epstein suggested sexual deviance in some way.

[Don Lemon]

Overtones.

[Tara Palmeri]

Yeah. Les Wexner's note to him had something along those lines. I can tell you, I. I can pull it up right now. You know, they, I mean, Bill Clinton wrote a message about their long lasting friendship, his childlike curiosity. I mean, that's a little creepy. Childlike curiosity. Line draw. Okay. Wexner's letter had a line drawing of what appeared to be a woman's breasts along with a short message. Mort Zuckerman joked about looking for more information on Epstein. And he was the owner of the New York Daily News, a partial owner, which is just shows you, like, how many very prominent people were aware it was all kind of hanging out there in plain sight that this was a deviant, perverted man who just so happened to be really rich. And I don't know if you saw the latest deep dive in the New York Times about his relationship with JP Morgan, but I found it to be incredible. Incredibly illuminating.

[Don Lemon]

No, that, that's on my to do list. I want to read about it.

[Tara Palmeri]

It's going to take you about a half hour, but it is worth every single minute because it just shows you that there were so many moments from internal emails that this bank had the opportunity to cut off contact with Jeffrey Epstein, but continued to bank for him, including setting up bank accounts of girls under the age of 18 for them to receive money. They knew that there was red flags of money laundering, and they were still continuing to do that. And it's just like every day, Don, there is a drip, drip, drip of news coming out about Jeffrey Epstein. And, you know, I don't believe it will stop until we get down to the bottom of it. At least I hope we don't. And you know, these kind of investigations take a lot of time. They cost a lot of money. But, you know, in this New York Times investigation, they're suggesting that Jamie Dimon, who is the head of the bank, was aware, or he says he wasn't, but they said that he is such a micromanager and that his deputy, just Stanley, who asked for Snow White or Beauty and the Beast from, you know, Epstein. This is a man that was managing Epstein's money. It's sickening. It really is Bank. This is a bank participating in sex trafficking essentially by way or. Or facilitating sex trafficking. Excuse me.

[Don Lemon]

What do you think that'll have any implications, by the way, I wanted to read it just so you know. It gives me an opportunity. So I want you to watch or a click on the Daily Beast podcast tonight. I'm going to be on. So I taped with them and that was supposed to be my time to read this piece and I didn't get a chance because I was taping with them and it went long. But it's fascinating. People are commenting on it in the comments, so I can't wait to read it. But will be any ramifications for these folks. This is a huge investigation.

[Tara Palmeri]

I think JP Morgan's already had to pay out to the victims, but it's only a few hundred million dollars. I mean, to me, it just doesn't seem fair. Deutsche bank was happy to take Epstein's money after JP Morgan, you know, cut off ties with him. Just Stanley Staley moved on to Chase bank, which apparently Epstein helped with that transition. But in, in this piece, they say that Epstein connected JP Morgan with Sergey Brin, who is the founder of Google, Bill Gates, Benjamin Netanyahu, the prime Minister of Israel. So, like he was considered a. Like I had written, like I've done in my own reporting. And I suggest you guys check out the Tara Palmeri show. He was a hyper fixer, not just for financial institutions, but I believe from my reporting, also with intelligence agencies. And so he was able to use these connections that he bragged about. He name dropped all the time, but it kept him in these elite circles and allowed him to make these huge deals. He's a dropout from college who taught at a high school, and yet he has hundreds of millions of dollars being banked by J.P. morgan. I mean, it's incredible. There's just still so much more we don't know. And I think Senator Ron Wyden is right. Follow the money, follow the transactions.

[Don Lemon]

Yeah, well, listen, I don't want to get too out of, you know, off the. The subject here, because that's important and we will, we'll cover it. But listen, you. We played what Caroline Levitt said, right? Do we? So I just want to bring up one J.D. vance. Okay.

[Tara Palmeri]

Oh, yeah.

[Don Lemon]

Oh, yeah. So you saw what JD Vance tweeted. This was in July, right? He said so. Forgive my language, but this story is complete and utter bullshit. The Wall Street Journal should be ashamed for publishing it. Where is the letter? Would you be shocked to learn they never showed it to us before publishing it? Does anyone honestly believe this sounds like Donald Trump? I mean, now let's show the signatures that Tara Palmeri so deftly brought up here. And so they're saying, oh, it's obvious he didn't sign it, but this is a comparison of signatures. He signed it as Donald. You can put that up, Andy. He signed it as Donald. And there it is. I mean, doesn't that look like the signature to.

[Tara Palmeri]

They're scrambling. They are scrambling so much. It is insane. I mean, remember when they said he doesn't use the word enigma and then he referred to Ben Carson as an enigma? Remember when they said he doesn't doodle and then you found out that his doodles were sold at Sotheby's at auction? I mean, what are they going to say next? Like, don't even bother. I. I mean, what are you. It's like, I'm sorry, but don't believe your lying eyes. I just don't understand. I'm trying to understand how the MAGA base is going to respond to this because, like, Job Jack Bassobia said something like, oh, it doesn't, you know, oh, this will really take him down. Or it was almost like a scoffing, oh, this is nothing. You know what I mean? Like, it's just. It's just so. It's incredible to me. I mean, I know politicians lie, but this just seems so blatant. But to Jack Besobie said, how will Trump ever recover? Was what he said. And it's just he's a MAGA right wing influencer. I guess the right has completely forgotten about the story. They don't care.

[Don Lemon]

He's being sarcastic in that tweet. Right?

[Tara Palmeri]

Yeah, of course. How will Trump ever recover? Did you.

[Don Lemon]

This is the bulwark on conservative media's reaction. Tara, let me play this and then get your response.

[Conservative Media Commentator]

Yeah, I mean, look, this is the letter that has all the stuff about, you know, secrets and ages not changing, things like that. I mean, so I think it's great to see it. The sort of instant reaction I'm seeing from right wing media, they're really focusing a lot on the signature saying, oh, you know, Charlie Kirk, for example, is saying that doesn't really look like Trump's signature. It looks just like Trump's signature. I mean, if you pull up what Trump's signature looks like, it looks pretty much exactly like that. So, you know, I think this is going to keep the story going, the Epstein story that Trump has obviously tried to avoid. You know, that and Mike Johnson claiming and now backing off the idea that Trump was some sort of FBI informant against Epstein. I think the story is sort of turning against the administration once again.

[Tara Palmeri]

Yeah, I mean, I am pulling up.

[Brad Edwards]

Donald Trump's signature right now, and gosh.

[Tara Palmeri]

The D is exactly the same. I mean, I don't know. Listen, I'm not a, I'm not a handwriting expert, but this was in the birthday book. The Wall Street Journal reports that he submitted it. Donald Trump denies it. Yeah, yeah.

[Don Lemon]

I mean, come on, come on.

[Tara Palmeri]

I know it's like, it's pretty, it's pretty pathetic. And I'm like, are you guys all on payroll? Like, what? I know that obviously President Trump being in power is a good thing for them, but at some point it's like you're, you're losing, you got to be losing credibility with your own audience if you continue to defend somebody who is not being truthful. So, yeah, this is, this is the.

[Don Lemon]

One thing that they can't contain, Tara. I mean, it. This is like, you know, this is like the genie that they're trying to put back in the bottle and just will not go back in the bottle. And most of the stories they can contain, they can fake their way out of, you know, and they can sort of shift reality. I don't think they're able to do that one on this one, although they're trying their darndest.

[Tara Palmeri]

I know it's a crazy. We are in a. We are in a moment, but I'm hopeful, like Will said, that this will keep the story front and center.

[Don Lemon]

You think it will?

[Tara Palmeri]

I hope so. You know, Speaker Johnson saying Trump was an FBI informant and then referencing Brad Edwards. I interviewed Brad Edwards in 2020 and he did say that Trump helped him with his case. And I interviewed him, but it wasn't as an FBI informant.

[Don Lemon]

Like, can we listen to Mike Johnson and then get your response? Yeah, because Mike Johnson said in an off the cuff interview, I think it was with manufacturing on Friday, where he mentioned, he said, oh, you know, Donald Trump is well known as. He's an informant for whatever. Then that, like, went viral and then today Manu caught up with him and now he's Saying nothing to see here, move along. Here he is.

[Tara Palmeri]

Yeah, I guess everybody's. What do you mean by that?

[Brad Edwards]

When I was referring to in that long conversation was what the victims attorney said. More than a decade ago President Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar A Lago and he was one of the only people, one of the only prominent people as everyone has reported. Not President Trump but everybody about him that he was willing to help law enforcement go after this guy who was a disgusting child abuser, sex trafficker, all the allegations, that's what they heard. So the President was helpful in that. I don't know if I use the right terminology but that's common knowledge and everybody knows that. So this is much ado about nothing.

[Don Lemon]

Did the President tell you this specifically about his.

[Brad Edwards]

I was recounting what others have said. The President and I have talked about the Epstein evils many times. He's as disgusted by it as everybody else. He has long had a history of acknowledging that and he has said repeatedly he wants everything to come out, all credible information, everything for the American public to decide.

[Tara Palmeri]

Was he ever asked to wear a.

[Brad Edwards]

Wire or anything like that? I have no idea. No, I'm not saying that I have no information about that whatsoever. I was repeating what has been common knowledge for a long time. The President was helpful in trying to get Epstein for law enforcement to go after Epstein. That's always been my understanding. That's common knowledge. It's the public's understanding. I didn't. I was not breaking news there. Okay. What I'm trying to emphasize is the President is as disgusted about this as everyone is all people of good conscience.

[Tara Palmeri]

Except he calls a democratic hoax.

[Don Lemon]

Yeah, okay, we can stop it there. Look this.

[Tara Palmeri]

Why is everyone care about this? He's not disgusted about it. He wants it to go away.

[Don Lemon]

This reeks of insincerity to me. Terror. I know that you have to run but it reeks of. And then he sounds like a total country club Republican like oh this is just much ado about nothing but go on please.

[Tara Palmeri]

Yeah, no, I think you're. I think that this is. Yeah, no, he helped Brad Edwards because Brad sent him a subpoena. Brad is an edit. Is a. Was a lawyer for the survivors, remains a lawyer for the survivors and he helped Brad when he was trying to put together Crime Victims Rights act case that would overturn the non prosecution agreement the sweetheart deal because they argued that the. That the crime victims that their rights were violated when they weren't informed of the details of this non prosecution agreement like if someone hurts you and you are not told what their punishment is, you know what I mean? When, when they finally indict the person, when the charge, the sentencing, you can claim. Well, they argue that you can claim according to the Crime Victims Rights act, that the entire prosecution could be overturned. And that's what Brad was trying to argue. So he called up Trump's lawyer, Trump's lawyer at the time, and said, you know, we want to send him a subpoena. He said, don't worry, Trump will get on the phone with you. So we got on the phone with Trump and Trump gave him a bunch of leads about Epstein and his friends. That's what happened. That's not the FBI informant.

[Don Lemon]

Right.

[Tara Palmeri]

You know, and frankly, at the time, Trump was an enemy of Epstein's because of this real estate deal where he had to pay what he felt was more than he wanted to in a bidding war of a house ironically called the House of Friends, a Palm beach mansion on the water. They both wanted it. Trump eventually flipped it to a Russian oligarch for 96 million dollars. I believe he paid 330 something million when he bought it. Yeah. And, and by the way, in his conversation with, with Brad Edwards, he told him that when he asked Epstein about young girls at the pool. And from my rec for my conversations with Virginia, she said that the girls were often naked at the pool. Virginia Fry, who's the one of the most well known survivors, you know, he said it was a big Brother, big sister program and he didn't think anything weird about it. I mean, he thought it was weird, but he didn't do anything about it. Like in some ways when people don't do anything about it, like they become enablers themselves, in my opinion.

[Don Lemon]

Well, Tara, I want to be respectful of your time you have to run. Thank you very much. I know that you have a heart out. We'll see you soon. Great reporting. We love having you on Tara. The Terra Palmieri show and the Red on YouTube and then the red letter on substack.

[Tara Palmeri]

Thank you all. I want to thank my producer, Eric Abenate, Adam Stewart, who handles my thumbnails, and Abby Baker on my social media. If you want to support my independent journalism and get my, you set the.

[Don Lemon]

Table, put on a playlist, even made.

[Tara Palmeri]

The lasagna from scratch.

[Brad Edwards]

And now you're wearing it. Oxiclean Max Force spray tackles tough set.

[Don Lemon]

In stains the first time adulting is hard. Fighting stains shouldn't be Oxiclean Max Force.

[Brad Edwards]

It's not clean unless it's OxiClean scoops.

[Tara Palmeri]

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