Podcast Summary: The Tara Palmeri Show
Episode: "Were the Royals Warned? Epstein, Alleged Blackmail, Bribes — and Sex Tape Fears Around Prince Andrew"
Guest: Andrew Lownie (royal historian and author)
Date: February 20, 2026
Overview
In this in-depth episode, Tara Palmeri sits down with Andrew Lownie, renowned royal biographer and expert on Prince Andrew, to unpack the bombshell developments in the Prince Andrew/Jeffrey Epstein saga. They discuss the arrest of Prince Andrew, new revelations about his relationship with Epstein, the role of intelligence agencies, high-level coverups, sex tape rumors, and the implications for both the British monarchy and prominent American figures such as Donald Trump and Melania Trump. Lownie shares new reporting, including unpublished material and fresh leads, while the conversation explores accountability, the possibility of wider complicity, and the role of investigative journalism in breaking open the case.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Initial Shock: Prince Andrew’s Arrest
- Shock at the news: Lownie expresses genuine surprise at Andrew’s arrest, emphasizing how unprecedented it is for law enforcement to target royals (01:01).
- "I never expected this. I thought… the police didn’t really want to look at the royals and that this was never going to happen." — Andrew Lownie (01:01)
- Change in institutional response: Noticeable shift with the palace publicly stating it would cooperate, possibly signaling Andrew has been "cut loose" (01:45).
2. The Prince Andrew–Epstein Relationship: Sex, Money, Blackmail & Corruption
- Not just sex—mutually beneficial economic exchange: Andrew’s role as British trade envoy (2001–2011) enabled him to pass confidential (sometimes commercially sensitive) information to Epstein in exchange for financial favors (such as paying off Sarah Ferguson’s debts) (02:36).
- "In return for passing on confidential information to Epstein… Epstein was paying off Andrew's ex-wife's debts. So there was a very clear relationship there. You do this for me and I'll do this for you." — Andrew Lownie (02:36)
- Evidence from the files: The panic over what might still be unreleased; only a portion of Epstein’s files are public, with 2.5 million still held by the DOJ, possibly containing further incriminating evidence (04:18).
- Lownie’s own reporting: He claims to have additional material not yet published due to legal concerns—suggests the public only has "the tip of the iceberg" (04:18).
- "He seemed to be doing it with almost every piece of information he was given. He was finding some way of monetizing him." — Andrew Lownie (04:51)
3. Earlier and Deeper Connections: Maxwell, Espionage, and Money Laundering
- Origins of the network: Lownie ties Epstein’s and Andrew’s relationship back even earlier (to 1985), connecting it to the Maxwell family and international intelligence intrigue (05:19).
- Intelligence ties: Epstein alleged to be a Soviet (and/or multi-agency) asset, Maxwell described as possibly compromised by multiple agencies (including MI6, Russian intelligence) (06:18).
- "There’s certainly this intelligence angle I think is one of the new errors… Epstein was a Soviet asset… a national security element." — Andrew Lownie (06:18)
- "An American intelligence report... talking about Andrew's links to Russian intelligence and sex trafficking and money laundering rings." — Andrew Lownie (06:50)
- National security concern: Not just financial and sexual crimes, but a national security risk via leaked state secrets (07:07).
4. Mechanisms of Compromise: Blackmail, “Honey Traps,” and Sex Tapes
- Andrew as a willing participant: Evidence suggests Andrew gave up material both for money and access to women; honey-traps were widespread and potentially used for leverage (07:17).
- Sex tape fears: Mystification that no Andrew sex tapes have appeared yet; speculation that such evidence could still be used as blackmail by intelligence agencies or criminals (07:44–07:54).
5. Truncated Reporting: The Melania Trump Bombshell
- Suppressed allegations: Lownie discusses the removal of explosive material linking Melania Trump to Epstein and Trump, including claims that Melania met Trump via Epstein and was sexually involved on Epstein’s plane (08:50).
- "The publishers were just frightened of a lawsuit from Trump… two lines were taken out just to avoid this lawfare." — Andrew Lownie (09:08)
- Parallels to media/elite protectionism: The tendency to redact or underreport powerful men’s possible involvement.
6. The Russian Asset Question
- Epstein as a fixer, not a lone agent: Lownie reiterates that Epstein likely worked for multiple agencies, operating as an “asset” (not a formal agent), trading information with the CIA, Mossad, Russian intelligence, etc. (09:57–10:23).
- Andrew and the British Establishment: Claims that British intelligence and the palace likely knew about Andrew's vulnerability and ongoing exposure to foreign intelligence (12:03).
7. Complicity at the Top: Palace, Government, and Queen Elizabeth II
- Institutional knowledge and protection: Lownie says MI6 warned the Queen about Andrew’s bribe-taking, but the Queen was "not interested"; palace staff and protection officers would have reported Andrew’s activities (12:49).
- "It’s inconceivable that [the Queen] didn’t know… she had a very good intelligence service." — Andrew Lownie (13:08)
- King Charles’ role: The possibility that Charles, like the Queen, prioritized protecting family over monarchy or law.
8. Consequences for the Royal Family
- Potential for wider fallout: The Royal Family may hope pinning it on Andrew pacifies the public, but if complicity is established or more royals are implicated, the monarchy could face a deeper crisis (14:10).
- "If wider questions are asked about the complicity of other members of the Royal Family… then I think there are problems." — Andrew Lownie (14:10)
- Stonewalling from the Palace: Notable that even the BBC’s direct queries about royal involvement were met with silence (14:46).
9. The Trump–Andrew Connection
- Close personal relationship: Trump and Andrew were “very close,” sharing interests in money, women, and golf; even exchanged “locker room” discussions (17:21).
- "They used to have locker room conversations... they actually swapped lists of masseuses... in New York." — Andrew Lownie (17:21)
- Possible suppression of evidence: Lownie speculates references to Trump have been scrubbed from Epstein files, but more information could emerge from alternative sources or whistleblowers (18:20).
10. Investigative Process and Prospects
- Likelihood of prosecution: The dramatic nature of Andrew’s arrest suggests authorities have hard evidence; charges may be filed soon, especially regarding misconduct in public office with life imprisonment as a possible sentence (20:16–22:29).
- "Misconduct in public office. The maximum sentence is life imprisonment." — Andrew Lownie (22:29)
- Sex trafficking challenges: Harder to prosecute without non-anonymous, cooperating witnesses, but ongoing investigations may turn up new evidence (21:20).
11. Ghislaine Maxwell’s Strategy and Ongoing Risks
- Possible leaks and strategies: Lownie speculates that Ghislaine Maxwell wants a Trump pardon and may withhold or leak information strategically (23:25).
- "She wants to get her pardon. If she has to absolve Trump of any involvement, she will do that." — Andrew Lownie (23:25)
- Danger of being “suicided”: Fear that key witnesses or participants could be silenced, continuing the pattern seen with Epstein and Jean-Luc Brunel (24:14).
12. The Virginia Giuffre Settlement—A Hush Money Deal
- Crown’s massive payout: Strong suggestion that Palace knew Andrew’s guilt in larger crimes and paid $10 million+ to Virginia Giuffre to prevent his testimony and avoid disastrous public scrutiny (25:47).
- "You don't pay £12 million and don't ask the person some questions about why you're having to pay this money. So I have no doubt that all those involved... knew exactly what their money was being put up for." — Andrew Lownie (25:47)
- Giuffre’s legacy: Both Palmeri and Lownie praise Virginia Giuffre’s courage and the impact of her activism in breaking the story open (27:22–27:47).
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- "The extraordinary thing is that this may well have been known about by lots of people, including the ambassadors. And nothing was done about it. He was allowed to behave like this." — Andrew Lownie (03:24)
- "I'm just amazed that we haven't got sort of sex tapes of Andrew, you know, appearing all over the Internet." — Andrew Lownie (07:44)
- "Trump and Andrew... have the same interests: women, money, golf. They met a lot and they used to have locker room conversations." — Andrew Lownie (17:21)
- "It’s inconceivable that [the Queen] didn’t know... she protected her son. And, you know, I think everyone's surprised that she put her family ahead of the monarchy." — Andrew Lownie (13:08)
- "She wants to get her pardon. If she has to absolve Trump of any involvement, she will do that." — Andrew Lownie on Ghislaine Maxwell (23:25)
- "Without [Virginia Giuffre], without her bravery and courage, we would not be where we are now. And it's just tragic that she hasn't lived to see the consequences." — Andrew Lownie (27:47)
Important Timestamps
- 01:01: Lownie’s shock at Andrew’s arrest
- 02:36: Financial corruption and Andrew’s trade envoy role
- 04:18: How much more may be in the Epstein files
- 06:18: Epstein’s/Soviet, intelligence links, and Maxwell connections
- 07:17: Sex, honey traps, and compromise
- 08:50: Suppressed claims regarding Melania Trump
- 12:49: MI6 warnings to the Queen, Royal Family complicity
- 14:10: Long-term impact on the Royal Family
- 17:21: Details of Trump-Andrew friendship and locker room talk
- 20:16: Likelihood and logistics of a trial
- 22:29: Penalties for misconduct in office
- 23:25: Ghislaine Maxwell’s legal and PR strategy from prison
- 25:47: Giuffre settlement as potential hush money
- 27:47: Tribute to Giuffre’s role in exposing the truth
Final Thoughts & Tone
- Tone: Direct, no-nonsense, investigative. Tara is incisive, energetic, and slightly incredulous at some revelations, pressing Andrew for specifics. Andrew Lownie is detailed, careful with legal boundaries, and quietly forceful in his assertions. The conversation oscillates between clinical reporting and moments of moral outrage or empathy for survivors.
- Message: The surface has only been scratched on the Andrew/Epstein scandal. The story is evolving, with new evidence and witness testimony possibly imminent, and both British and American institutions are under fresh scrutiny for their roles in enabling or concealing abuse and corruption.
For listeners and readers, this episode offers a granular, bravely uncompromising look into the intersection of royalty, intelligence, high-finance, and sexual exploitation—raising urgent questions about institutional accountability at the apex of global power.
