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Laura and I met when I was in law school. At the time we met, it was just completely different.
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This is Laura's husband, Garrett.
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Laura was a teacher. She'd been teaching for just a few years. She mentioned early on that she had these abilities, but she wasn't actively reading. It wasn't a part of her my normal daily routine. So I knew that going into it, but all through dating and the first few years of our marriage really had nothing to do with mediumship and connections to the other side. I think one of the things that surprises people most about Laura and our family is that we are just incredibly normal, like we're just an average American family. We rarely walk around discussing mediumship and spirituality. It really doesn't come up all that much.
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And Garrett, I love that you're a lawyer because, you know, it feels like the furthest profession from a medium. And I'm Just curious as to some of your personal conversations with Laura. Is there any advice that you've given to her or vice versa that comes to mind?
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I have to remind Laura this from time to time is that there's always going to be a hardcore percentage of the population that is just not going to be able to wrap their minds around this. They're not going to believe it. They're always going to view it as woo woo as fraudulent. And unfortunately, the world of mediumship, I mean, let's face it, throughout history it's had a pretty sketchy reputation and I think for good reason. I think it's been abused and exploited by people through the centuries to take advantage of people. Having said that, though, that's not to say that the phenomenon itself isn't legitimate, because it very much is.
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And how do Laura and Garrett's children, Hayden, Juliet and Ashley, feel about growing up with a mom who's a medium?
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My Name's Hayden. I'm 18 years old and I am the middle child in the family. I really grew up with a very unique perspective. I feel like where I was always very open to this whole world that most people don't really perceive or often ignore. Throughout my life, with my close friends, I've always shared really what my mom's done and some of my experiences. And usually over time they learn about it more and they learn to kind of see what I'm talking about and kind of understand the kind of ideas I'm talking about. So I have found success throughout my life, like explaining these concepts and notions to people around me. It's just something most people, when they first hear about it, they're just kind of confused, like, how can this be real? How can your mom, you know, have this career where she does this?
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My name is Juliet Jackson. I am 16 years old and I am a junior in high school. A lot of my life I've felt more comforted in the concepts of this interconnectedness and light that I am afraid of it. So a lot of that has just come up and been raised around my household, household in a concept of just support and love more than anything. It's made my reality something that feels more filled with love than I can ever fully explain to other people. Because having her as my mother has created this. It's created a relationship not only with myself, but with the interconnectedness of all of us and the world beyond us that nothing is ever truly gone. It's just opened me up so much more as a person and being able to empathize with other people and understand them and understand their viewpoints. Having her as my mother, it's just. It is so beyond unique and beautiful. It's also just allowed me to push forward this concept that we all are united.
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I'm her oldest child. I'm 24 years old.
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This is Ashley Jackson, Laura's oldest, and Hayden and Juliet's big sister.
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My family is, like, pretty normal in all terms, except that there are these abilities in our family. And I guess for like, my entire family, like, at least me and my siblings, it's just been like, the way we grew up. And we all kind of were like, okay, like, that's just the way it is. But everyone's very open and talkative and, like, it's. It's fun. Growing up, it was just, like, very normal to me because she always had that. And, you know, she used to be a teacher, but would also do readings and everything. So I didn't know it wasn't common or normal or these things. And since I was like a kid, I guess I was in tune with that. So I would pick up on people's energy, like, whether we went to the store or anywhere. And I could kind of, like, pick up on whatever mood they're in or what they're going through. And it adds, I think, this cool layer to, you know, have, like, shared kind of abilities and be able to talk about that stuff. But sometimes, especially with me and my mom, we're very tuned into each other's energy. And even though if I, you know, I'm not here at the house, I can kind of. We can kind of feel each other's energy sometimes, and it can be intense, but it's.
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It's good.
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Garrett, Laura, and the kids all insist that their home is just like any other home. Or like Ash explained, growing up as kids, you don't know what's normal or uncommon for a family. It's just your family. I actually experienced that firsthand when I started working on this project about four years ago when I overheard my daughter playing Barbie with her friends. They were explaining each Barbie's profile. One was a dentist and one was a teacher, and one was a non speaker who was telepathic. Her friends looked at her like she was crazy, saying, what's a non speaker who's telepathic? And my daughter said, oh, it's someone who can't speak, but they can communicate with their minds. And I loved how quickly they all just rolled with it. But all of Laura's kids acknowledge that growing up with a mom Who's a medium has opened them up to recognizing what's behind the veil of mortality. And do your friends and the people in your life know about your mom's gifts? Is that something that most people know about? And how do people receive is a.
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Thing almost everybody knows about at this point.
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Here's Juliet and Hayden, Laura's middle schooler and high schooler.
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It's something I'm very open about because I feel very passionate about it, like, within a school situation and ecosphere. My entire school knows about it. She's very well known throughout the community, and it's something I really enjoy talking about and I'm very passionate about within my friends and within my community around me.
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Oftentimes people, like, make jokes about it, be like, oh, it's a scam. But usually when I explain some of these experiences to people, they tend to open up to it for the most time. And at the same time, if people aren't opening up to it, that's their choice. I feel like I'm here to kind of explain these experiences and the things I've dealt with in my life and the ways it's affected my life. But sometimes it's just hard to kind of convince people. But what I do try to do is I'll tell people, open up to this. Try it yourself. And a lot of times I've seen, you know, friends asking for signs, things along those lines. They're actually able to pick up on it as well, and it's really changed their perspective.
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I was curious after listening to Hayden, Juliet and Ashley described their connection with their mother and their connection with their intuition. Do they have her gift, too? As far as your kids, like, do any of them seem to have the gift? Or do you know if anyone above Laura, like grandmas or aunts, had the gift, if you will? Like, do you think it runs in families?
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I do, and I think it runs fairly. It seems to be her mom's side of the family. Both her aunt. Her aunt has it to a degree. Her mother has it to a degree.
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Here's Garrett, Laura's husband.
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I've seen her brother be pretty accurate in a kind of a scary way, in a good way, but just really pretty wild to see. He doesn't do it often, but you'll do it a bit here and there. It's wild. My kids display it to a degree, but nobody has it the way Laura has it. You know what I mean? It's just a true, true, profound gift. But as Laura says all the time, we all have this Ability to some degree and it comes out in different ways. But we all have the capacity to be intuitive.
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I think everyone has the capacity to be able to become in tune and become more in tune.
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And here's Ashley, Laura and Garrett's oldest.
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Some people are maybe born with a higher percentage of that perception. It's like if there's a radio dial for volume. Maybe some people are just born with it a little more turned up or they're born more sensitive. I've done readings for people a lot of the time I'd base it off with like tarot cards, but when I would do it I wouldn't go like just based off of the card. Said I'd almost use it like a tool to like what I call like tap in to the energy. And it's almost like I could see kind of like a screen in my head and get information, but it's information that I'm not getting from myself. It's not like I'm coming to some kind of logical conclusion. It was almost like a thought or information like planted in my head. Some of the readings I did, like there was really specific information for people that came through or like stuff that was going to happen. Very specific. And it did end up happening.
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From what Laura's family has described. Maybe it's both nature and nurture that has opened their hearts and minds to receiving information that may have opened up their natural born gifts. And yes, they could be born with disability and there could be a genetic element to it. We will do a deep dive on that in a future Talk Tracks episode.
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I think all my sisters certainly do in a way. I can't speak for all of them specifically, but I can definitely speak in my own experiences and the very interesting things that I've experienced firsthand.
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Here's Hayden explaining his connection to his intuition.
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I'm able to kind of use my intuition and my screen. Like my mom always describes the screen she has in which she's able to conduct mediumship. I do have that screen and I'm able to use it and visualize things and sometimes receive messages and information.
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That's so cool. So you have the same screen, but it'll be more psychic images coming in, not medium. So will it be names of things or feelings or what does it look like for you?
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It can be a lot of things depending on what the circumstance is. Sometimes it could be phrases, sometimes it could be images. I've had profound experiences in dreams before that have come true in real life. Just these undeniable things. I feel in some way, I am able to perceive energy and kind of tap into a collective consciousness in which I'm able to kind of sense the turning tides of the world. There's been times where I felt really tense about something. And then right after a large event happened. It happened with COVID It happened with the Ukrainian war. It happened on October 7th. I've just had a strange ability to be able to pick up on certain things before they happen. And I really attribute that to growing up around this and growing up with my mom kind of teaching me how to be open to all of these things. It's a hard thing to understand because it's just. It can sound really out there sometimes. But from my firsthand experience between myself and seeing what my sisters have done, there are certainly some, you know, psychic abilities, I would say, that were in our family.
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I feel like definitely in some ways I do possess some of the same capabilities as her.
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And again, here's 16 year old Juliet.
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A lot of my life, though, I felt, I don't know why, but almost scared to fully dive into it and see if I fully relate to it in the same way she does. I do feel like I can connect in a lot of in some of the same ways that she does. Maybe not exactly, but I do feel a connection in the same way. One of the biggest concepts that my mom teaches is that you don't need her to connect with the people that you've lost. She is an interpreter of the situation that is provided with her. She connects to this love between two people and she transmits the concepts of it. When in a situation like me where I've lost somebody very close to me in my life and I have had the ability to receive such just this inundation of signs and love from the situation of having somebody cross like I've had, I've just asked for the most abstract signs and in the beginning it was very scary because I was like, this is the situation that's going to test everything I believe in if I actually trust in these signs. And they came through. And just within the first month of crossing, it was absolutely incredulous how many signs I'd received, how many signs I'd asked for and just over and over again been able to have this understanding that the person that I love that has crossed is still there and still wanting to communicate.
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What are you able to share what the signs were? Or is that too personal?
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So back in the beginning, right when my friend had crossed, I was asking very specifically for very, very small, little, tiny origami animals. And I specifically had wanted it to be little origami cranes and animals like that. And so it was within the first week of her crossing, my mother had gotten a package in the mail. And she said, juliet, come down here. I just feel like I need to give this to you. And it was by this little brand. My mom didn't know that. I didn't tell anybody about the sign at all. But they ship out little, tiny paper cranes with every single purchase, and it's about the size of a penny. And she told me. She's like, I don't know why I feel that I need to give this to you, but I do. And she hands it to me, and I just start like. I'm like, this was one of my signs. And then there is another situation in which someone. I'm very close, one of my loved ones, he is very talented at making origami animals. And I had just met him pretty recently after this. And sudden, just out of the blue, one day, he comes and he gives me this little origami pair.