S2E34: We Are Here to Learn From | Talk Tracks

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The Telepathy Tapes – Talk Tracks

Episode S2E34: "We Are Here to Learn From"

Host: Ky Dickens
Guests: Gavin Schultz & Cindy Schultz
Date: June 17, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Telepathy Tapes: Talk Tracks centers on Gavin Schultz, a "differently verbal" autistic communicator, and his mother Cindy. Host Ky Dickens facilitates a deep, honest conversation about alternative communication, spirituality, telepathy, and what it means to exist—and connect—beyond typical expectations. Through audience questions and personal stories, Cindy and Gavin share insights about the development of Gavin’s communication ability via the Rapid Prompting Method (RPM), his inner world shaped by faith and “downloads” from spiritual figures, and the reality of telepathic experiences within their family and community.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Introduction to Gavin and Cindy Schultz

• Gavin’s background: Diagnosed with autism at age 3 after losing verbal speech, Gavin later learned to communicate using a letterboard and typing.
• Preferred language: Gavin prefers "differently verbal" to "non-verbal" (04:01).
• Cindy on early years: Noticed early milestones, regression at age 2, diagnosis, and a deep commitment to pursue therapies (04:10).

2. The Discovery and Impact of RPM

• Exposure to RPM: Cindy discovers Rapid Prompting Method through another parent and meets founder Soma Mukhopadhyay—a pivotal beginning (06:39).
• First breakthroughs: Gavin demonstrates surprising knowledge and vocabulary, stunning his family and teachers (07:02).
• Gavin’s experience:
  • Pre-RPM: “Life for me before RPM was more frustrating because the people around me had no idea how intelligent I was. I felt locked inside, waiting for someone to let me out. Thank God Soma had the key for learning. The RPM method has changed my life.” (08:03)
  • Post-RPM: “That was the happiest day of my life. I knew after meeting Soma and working with her, my life was going to change for the better.” (08:33)
  • “Everyone needs to try RPM.” (09:03)

3. Insights about Gavin’s Knowledge and Spiritual Experiences

• Surprising knowledge: Homeschooled by Cindy, Gavin demonstrates understanding and knowledge beyond Cindy's own, starting to write original, profound pieces (12:27).
• Sources of learning: Gavin spells that God and other theologians are his primary teachers, sometimes spelling words like “theologians” accurately and referencing spiritual downloads (13:01).
• Experience of spiritual connection:
  • “They whisper to me. I feel the Holy Spirit speaks to me.” (13:50)
  • Frequently references the Holy Spirit and “downloads” from Moses and other figures.

4. Telepathy, Empathy, and Other Gifts

• Describing spiritual/psychic senses:
  • “I can read people very well. I feel their energy; if they are happy or sad or concerned, I know it. God has given me special gifts to understand people. I thanks to him for believing in me to use them properly.” (15:17)
• Terminology for phenomenon:
  • “I call it hearing from the Holy Spirit, from God himself. He often tells me what to type and share with the world. Telepathy is real and I believe in it. However, I am not getting into all the hype of it.” (16:21)
• Mother-son telepathy:
  • “Yes, for sure. Connection is like peanut butter and jelly.” (17:06)
• Experimental proof: Spelling words Cindy thinks of, surprising family (17:27).
• Boundaries:
  • “Telepathy has a time and place, but not when I am spelling.” (18:46)

5. Scepticism, Ableism, and Advocacy

• Discussion on pushback regarding communication authenticity; Cindy details clear evidence of Gavin’s independence and the prevalence of skepticism without firsthand observation (20:34).
• Gavin’s response to doubters:
  • “I rather not waste time worrying about naysayers who doubt things. Everyone has their own opinion, and they can be stubborn. I prefer to move forward and continue to do what works for me and countless others. I will always be a strong advocate for rapid prompting method.” (19:51)
  • “People who think they know better should not be such a negative Nancy.” (20:15)

6. Spiritual Gifts and Perception

• Seeing angels: Gavin claims to see and feel angels, notices auras, and senses energy (23:11).
• Example: During a hospital stay, he tells Cindy not to worry because “every room I was in, God’s heavenly beings were in the room.” (24:17)
• Description of angels:
  • “Are beautiful beings. Not always do I see them, but I feel God sends them when we need them most.” (25:27)

7. Hopes, Aspirations, and Humanity’s Evolution

• Personal hopes:
  • Open to relationships, desires to unite RPM spellers, wants to be a published author and live at Matthias Academy (26:19).
  • “My desires are to be a published author of my book. I also want to live someday with my friends at Matthias Academy home. I pray that humanity can become loving and kind and stop being so hateful.”
• Book details:
  • “My book is about hope and encouragement for readers to believe in the one true God. It will help those who read it realize to never underestimate a special needs individual's ability. We are remarkable in so many ways.” (27:59)
  • “I signed a contract for my book, the Hopeful One, to be published.” (28:21)

8. Subscriber Questions: Perspective, Ability, Purpose

• What makes you happy or frustrated about the world?
  • “What makes me most happy with the world is having family and friends… My frustration with the world is too many people are negative and so hateful in their actions towards each other. I want kindness and love shown, not hate.” (32:56)
• On connecting with people with Down syndrome or other disabilities:
  • “We can have connections with everyone, even severe Down syndrome people. I have Down's friends and we communicate with very well together. It does not all have to be done telepathically, but it can for sure happen that way. For everyone's information, God created us all in there.” (34:10)
• Purpose of non-speakers:
  • “Absolutely. God had a plan when he sent me here. We are here to learn from. We are the gentle souls of love and peace that he wants the world to hear from.” (36:30)
• On being tested to “prove” skills:
  • “I feel it takes the average person that many times to finally realize how intelligent we really are... We have remarkable skills. Everyone needs to believe in us.” (38:00)
• On being a “lab rat”:
  • “That way we are not lab rats to be used but intelligent human beings brought here by God for a purpose. This world would freak out if they knew what we all know. I rather stay humble and not boast about my abilities.” (38:00)
• Telepathy in the womb/infancy:
  • “Maybe some have, but I never did. Telepathy is a gift that happened later on for me when I started noticing other gifts God was blessing me with like seeing angels. I started to feel strong energy of people's emotions and could at times read their minds. Like I said before, I am careful to not overuse this gift. It is something I worry about getting out of control.” (39:43)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Gavin: “Life for me before RPM was more frustrating because the people around me had no idea how intelligent I was. I felt locked inside, waiting for someone to let me out.” (08:03)
• Gavin (on spiritual connection): “They whisper to me. I feel the Holy Spirit speaks to me.” (13:50)
• Gavin: “Connection is like peanut butter and jelly.” (17:06)
• Gavin: “Telepathy has a time and place, but not when I am spelling.” (18:46)
• Gavin: “People who think they know better should not be such a negative Nancy.” (20:15)
• Gavin: “We are here to learn from. We are the gentle souls of love and peace that he wants the world to hear from.” (36:30)
• Gavin (on seeing angels): “Are beautiful beings. Not always do I see them, but I feel God sends them when we need them most.” (25:27)
• Gavin (signing his book contract): “I signed a contract for my book, the Hopeful One, to be published.” (28:21)
• Gavin: “Thank you for taking this time with me. Say hi to everyone from the hopeful one, Gavin Schultz. Love to you all.” (39:52)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 04:01 – Gavin defines himself as “differently verbal”
• 06:39 – Discovering RPM and Soma Mukhopadhyay
• 08:03 – Gavin describes his life before/after RPM
• 13:50 – Gavin explains spiritual “downloads” and the Holy Spirit
• 15:17 – Describing his ability to read emotions and energies
• 16:21 – Gavin on hearing from the Holy Spirit vs. telepathy
• 17:06 – Describing the mother-son telepathic bond
• 18:46 – Boundaries for telepathy when spelling
• 19:51 – Gavin’s approach to skeptics and naysayers
• 23:11 – On seeing angels and sensing energy
• 25:27 – Gavin describes angels and when he sees them
• 27:59 – Gavin’s aspirations for his book and advocacy
• 32:56 – Subscriber questions: happiness, frustration, perspective on humanity
• 36:30 – Purpose of non-speakers and their role in humanity’s evolution
• 38:00 – On telepathy “proving” and being treated as lab rats
• 39:43 – On telepathic ability in infancy
• 39:52 – Gavin’s closing thanks

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Tone & Takeaway

The conversation is strikingly sincere, affirming, and at times playful—with Cindy and Gavin’s bond shining through. The episode bridges scientific curiosity and spiritual experience, consistently challenging listeners to expand their definitions of intelligence, communication, and consciousness. Listeners are left with a sense of hope, acceptance, and a potent reminder: “Never underestimate a special needs individual’s abilities. We are remarkable in so many ways.”

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Transcript

[A]

Hi everyone and welcome back to the Talk Tracks. Today we're spending time with Gavin Schultz and his mother, Cindy. Gavin is differently verbal, a phrase he chose himself. When he was a young child, Gavin stopped talking and was diagnosed with autism. He went through years of therapy, and then at the age of nine, Gavin began spelling to communicate by pointing to letters on a letterboard. He now has been typing to communicate for more than a decade. And through that process, he shared a rich and deeply thoughtful inner world shaped by theology and a profound sense of purpose. Today, we'll be asking Gavin some of the questions submitted by our Backstage Pass community, our subscriber platform where listeners can access ad free episodes, connect with other community members, and submit questions for guests who've been on the show. So thank you to everyone who sent in questions. So Cindy Gavin, welcome. Hi everyone. I'm Kai Dickens, and welcome to the Talk Tracks, brought to you weekly from TTT Media. In this series, we explore the threads that weave together our understanding of reality, science, spirituality, consciousness, and yes, even unexplained phenomena like psi abilities. We examine the mysteries that sit just beyond the edge of what science can currently explain alongside researchers, thinkers, families and experiencers. If you haven't yet listened to the telepathy tapes, I encourage you to start there. It lays the foundation for everything that we'll be exploring because every era has ideas once dismissed as impossible until someone was willing to investigate them seriously. And on this show, we do just that. Your home is more than just furniture. It's an extension of who you are. Even small details like a rug can completely change how a space feels. And that's why I love Ruggable. I recently added one of their Persian rugs in our living room. It's a beautiful kind of warm pastel pink that softens and totally pulls together the space. And there were so many styles to choose from, from boho and modern and vintage to and you can filter by size, by color, by material, by designer. And what I love is that they aren't just beautiful and soft, but they're stain resistant for everyday spills and machine washable, making them so easy to clean. And it's especially awesome for our life because we have two young kids, two dogs and two cats. The built in nonstick backing makes sure that even when everyone is running around, there's no slipping. They really are design led and performance built. Refresh your [e-mail] get 10% off your first order sitewide with promo code [e-mail] that's R U G G A B L E dot com and use code tapes at checkout. So if you're looking to refresh your space, I really recommend checking them out because you're listening to this podcast. I know you've got a curious mind and here's a helpful fact you might not know yet. Drivers who switch and save with Progressive save over $900 on average. Pop over to progressive.com, answer some questions and you'll get a quick quote with discounts that are easy to come by. In fact, 90 of their auto customers earn at least one discount. Visit progressive.com and see if you can enjoy a little cash back. Progressive Casualty Insurance Company and affiliates national average 12 month savings of $946 by new customers surveyed who saved with Progressive between June of 2024 and May 2025. Potential savings will vary. Why don't you, Cindy, start by introducing yourself.

[B]

My name is Cindy Schultz and I've been married to my husband Randy for almost, almost 48 years. I live in Racine, Wisconsin. I am a mom of five awesome children. The oldest is 46. Then we have our youngest son, Gavin, who is 28.

[A]

And Gavin, it's a pleasure to have you here. To begin, is there anything you'd like to share with us?

[C]

M O T Y E T yes.

[B]

Not yet.

[A]

Great. Okay. Well, one thing I thought was helpful was that in our email correspondence prior to this, Gavin let us know that he does not like to be referred to as non verbal. And I think it's so important to use the language that people are comfortable with. So Gavin, how would you like to be referred to?

[B]

What do you think?

[A]

I F F. Gavin is spelling to communicate and for the sake of brevity, we'll skip to the end of the sentence.

[C]

Differently verbal.

[B]

Differently verbal. Yes.

[A]

Great. And that's what we'll go with. Well, Cindy, why don't you start off by telling us a bit about Gavin's early years.

[B]

I had Gavin at 39. He, you know, progressed, I thought, you know, meeting milestones and things like that. He didn't crawl though. He was talking and he used to say, you know, mommy, daddy, bye, bye, up, down, birdie, things like that. And at the age of two, all of a sudden all that went away and he would just scream or temper tantrum or rocking and toe walking and banging and lining his toys up and he just like would go and bang his head. I said, okay, this is way more than terrible twos. I didn't know at that time that it was aut, but the neighbor Next door that was a nurse had said, you know, I think he might have autism. And then at the age of three, then we did get the diagnosis. And I remember feeling, you know, relieved, but yet I still cried because, you know, I just. I. It's hard, you know, it's really hard. But then I just dove right in, and I do a lot of research, and I thought, nothing's gonna stop me from helping him and finding the best therapies and all that other stuff. Right, Gav? So we did it, didn't we?

[A]

And so I understand that Gavin was in ABA therapy for many years. And for listeners who might not know, ABA stands for Applied Behavior Analysis Therapy. And it's often the most recommended therapy for individuals with autism. And when Gavin was nine, he learned to communicate by pointing to letters on a letterboard. So, Cindy, prior to Gavin learning to communicate, what did you believe or understand about Gavin's inner world?

[B]

You know, I didn't really know what he knew. I remember sitting, and he used to play with ABC toys that would spell, you know, A for apple, B for ball, C for cat. And he had that with him. And I said to him, oh, spell daddy your name. And he spelled G, A, V, I, N, S, C, H, U, L, T, z. And I thought, I didn't even know you knew your last name or how to spell it. So that gave me a little inkling into, wow, he's really smart, or he's really picked up on things.

[A]

I love that, that the toy letter board kind of served as your first window into using a board with letters to spell to communicate. So then you're probably thinking, okay, maybe he knows more than you previously thought. And then how did you first even come to know that there was something like RPM or the rapid prompting method. Right. That could, like, teach him to actually learn the motor control, dispel his thoughts.

[B]

I had heard a little bit about it. A friend of ours had told us about it, and then we met with Soma when Gavin was nine.

[A]

She mentioned Soma here, and she's the founder of the RPM method. She's an incredible force in the world of spelling to communicate, and she really innovated the technique for her son Tito, who is now one of the most incredible, quickest typers I've ever witnessed.

[B]

Soma came to Chicago, and we had a bunch of other families that all met down there at this hotel for the weekend. And then she would work back to back to back to sessions each day. All these parents were sitting in a room watching her working with these individuals. And we were just odd. My mouth was like, to the floor. She was so super calm with them. Never raised her voice, just kept going, no matter what they were doing. And Gavin did, you know, really well with her. And she even had him doing math, which I, like, didn't even know that he knew math. And he's getting all the answers correct. And I remember when he was in elementary school, you know, they were teaching him words like cat and dog and up and down and working with Soma, he was spelling words like elephant and tabernacle and things like that. And I'm like, how do you even know how to spell this kind of stuff?

[A]

Yeah. Incredible. I mean, learning to communicate changes so many people's lives. And I know we sent a question to Gavin asking about this experience. Can you read what he spelled?

[B]

All right. So the question was, what was it like for you prior to rpm? And he spelled life. For me, before RPM was more frustrating because the people around me had no idea how intelligent I was. I felt locked inside, waiting for someone to let me out. Thank God Soma had the key for learning. The RPM method has changed my life.

[A]

Yeah. Beautiful.

[B]

The next question said, how did it feel when you were able to communicate? And you said, being able to learn through RPM lessons led to my ability to communicate. That was the happiest day of my life. I knew after meeting Soma and working with her, my life was going to change for the better. Soma believes in her students because RPM works for all ages. Do you have anything else to say about that, Gav e?

[A]

Okay, so Gavin is typing.

[C]

Everyone needs to try rpm.

[B]

Everyone needs to try it. Yep. It doesn't hurt to try, does it?

[A]

Gosh, I mean, I'm just so glad you found what works for you, Gavin. And so as he began typing more, did anything change in your lives or what started to unfold?

[B]

It wasn't until I homeschooled him for middle school and high school. You know, I really noticed that he knew things that I didn't. You know, I'm teaching him things, but it seemed like he already knew it.

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[B]

I would be doing something with them, a lesson or whatever. And he'd answer all these questions, right? And then all of a sudden, he would want to write a writing. You know, like, we had music appreciation. He likes Pete Seeger, which is a very old folk singer, you know, and then he would write a really nice poem, a tribute to him. And I'm like, wow. You know, I'm like, holding the board. And back then, I didn't even have the laptop up here. I'm like, writing everything down that he's spelling, and then I'm typing it on the laptop. I was just. Just like, odd.

[A]

Did you ask him, you know, where he was learning this stuff from?

[B]

Yes, we did. You know, I was like, hoping he'd say that I was his best teacher. And he spelled God is my greatest teacher, or other theologians. He spelled one day. And I'm like, theologians. I'm like, whoa. And I'm like, looking it up. And he spelled it correctly. And I'm like, wow, how do you even know that word? Where did that come from? I'm like, how do you know this? You know, but you just said that God and other theologians are your teachers. So that's why you are taught from a much higher power than Cindy Schultz sitting here in Caledonia, Wisconsin.

[A]

So interesting. So I'm so curious, Gavin, when those teachings come in from theologians, like, how are you interfacing with them? You know, what does that experience look like?

[C]

They whisper to me. I feel the Holy Spirit speaks to me. Wow.

[B]

Yeah. So he. He swears about it. It's the Holy Spirit telling him what to say. Right, Gab? But I like that you've got that kind of connection. A friend of his bought him for his birthday. Something about I get my downloads from Moses or something, but I'm like, oh, my goodness. Yeah, that's Gavin. He gets the downloads from Moses, don't you?

[A]

And so this connection to what Gavin calls the Holy Spirit, you know, we've actually talked to many differently verbal individuals who say that they get information or downloads from different teachers. Sometimes they call them masters, sometimes they do reference different spiritual leaders or historical figures. And other times they say they learn or get information from non speakers they meet on the hill. And for those of you who did not listen to season one, the hill is what many spellers call a realm that they, you know, travel to with their consciousness or astral travel to. To connect with others like themselves. And many said there are beings there who are passed on. So anyway, it's really interesting and very cool. You've got that connection, Gavin. And so as the spelling journey continued, you know, oftentimes families will say, first their child started spelling and then they realized all this knowledge they had. And then other gifts started to appear. And so we had some questions for Gavin and if you wouldn't mind reading those and his responses, let's see, Gavin,

[B]

how do you experience connections or awareness beyond spoken language, if at all? And you said, I can read people very well. I feel their energy if they are happy or sad or concerned, I know it. God has given me special gifts to understand people. I thanks to him for believing in me to use them properly. So, yeah, we've had therapists come and work with him and he would just sense that, you know, something was wrong or something happened or whatever. And then, you know, he says, oh, you're sad. And then they would say, well, yeah, so and so passed away and I'm feeling down or whatever. And even last month when we did the RPM session, the very first thing, he sat down, he started spelling. And he was spelling to the practitioner lady about things. She's like, how did you know that I needed to hear that? And he says, I could just feel that things were bothering you. And he just gave her hope and comfort and it was so, so sweet.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then the next question, Gavin, it says, do you call it telethapy? And you said, I call it hearing from the holy Spirit, from God himself. He often tells me what to type and share with the world. Telethapy is real and I believe in it. However, I am not getting into all the hype of it. I feel you have to have discernment about certain things in life, and this is one of them.

[A]

Yeah. And, you know, it's just funny because a few weeks ago, another man we interviewed, Peter Cain, spelled that, you know, telepathy can be misused. So I think discernment is a really great quality to bring to it. But, you know, is telepathy something you two have experienced together? Y e. So Gavin is typing.

[C]

Yes, for sure. Connection is like peanut butter and jelly.

[A]

That's funny. Peanut butter and jelly. I love it.

[B]

We have a connection like peanut butter and jelly.

[A]

Don't you know, it's amazing. It's such a good response.

[B]

That's so funny. Yeah, he definitely has a sense of humor.

[A]

So how did mind to mind communication or telepathy start for you both?

[B]

One of the teachers said, oh, yeah, I thought of five words the other day and I wrote them down and I didn't show my kid them, but he wrote them in order. I thought, well, let me try that. Sure. Yep, he did it. And then just the other night, I said, okay, I'm not going to write these words down. I'm just going to think of something. And sure enough, he spelled everything. I thought of Carl. Gavin, how do you do that? You know what? Even my husband's in the room and he's like, how do you do that, Kevin?

[A]

So, Gavin, is this something more recent?

[C]

N o.

[A]

And just so people know he's typing his answer, no.

[C]

I have had this talent, but keep it under wraps.

[A]

Wow. Okay. And so for you, Cindy, what did you make of all this?

[B]

I tried to. I don't know, because, you know, it's just like voodoo. Voodoo, you know, or you just, like, you think like, oh, my goodness, you know, is this really, you know, true? Or whatever? And so, yeah, we've been very discerning about it because, like he says, I do not want to do anything that would ever jeopardize anyone ever thinking that he did not write every one of his writings, because he did write every one of his writings, because he spells words I don't even know, much less how to spell them. You know, I'm like, checking words, and he always spells them right. I'm like, how do you know this

[C]

telepathy has a time and place, but not when I am spelling.

[B]

There you go.

[A]

And yeah, on that note, I mean, that's a question we send ahead of time wanting to know what Gavin feels about SK who say spellers are not authoring their own words. And for people new to this show or even to this world, typing to communicate almost always involves a regulation partner, especially in the beginning, when someone needs the most support with motor planning and regulation. And critics sometimes argue that that means the communication is not fully independent, which to many people carries a bit of an air of ableism. Because if you cannot control your body and you need support to communicate, why does their communication not count? But one of the most important distinctions to make here is that telepathy, according to many non speakers them, is something separate entirely. It's a skill set innate to many, if not all of us, and it gets heightened when other senses are diminished. And in fact, many individuals who type to communicate say they need their communication partners to clear their minds while spelling so they can focus on their own thoughts without distraction. Okay, so I digress. Why don't you go ahead and read Gavin's answer?

[B]

You said, I rather not waste time worrying about naysayers who doubt things. Everyone has their own Opinion, and they can be stubborn. I prefer to move forward and continue to do what works for me and countless others. I will always be a strong advocate for rapid prompting method. Anything else on that one?

[C]

People who think they know better should not be such a negative Nancy.

[B]

A negative Nancy.

[A]

And, Sydney, what are your thoughts on the backlash against, you know, letter boards to communicate? Or even just the fact that telepathy means someone's not authoring their own words? Like, do you ever think about that or have you encountered any pushback? Personally, I have.

[B]

Not too much, no. Because I even bought a board that's clear, you know, And I am like, okay, I'm holding this. This is my arm here, you know, and he's pointing and his other hand is over there. And it's like, how can it not be him doing this? You know?

[A]

Gosh, it's so funny that you said that because, you know, and I want to be kind here, but I have no other way to explain this. That one of the biggest, like, trolls around spelling on the Internet, who's always, like, bashing it and insulting typers and saying it's not real, once was talking to a scientist who was researching spelling to communicate. And she said to the scientist, have you seen it with your own eyes? And the scientist said, yes. And then she goes, okay, you're a lost cause, because once you see it, then you believe it. And it's kind of like, what? Anyway, okay, go on.

[B]

Right? Yeah. And even with the whole telepathy stuff, it was funny because we were out to lunch with a friend of ours, and the mom said to Gavin, could you please tell him not to read my mind? Because she had said something about, you know, I think blank, blank, blank, and he spells blank, blank, blank. And it was funny because then Gavin even said, just clear your mind.

[A]

Oh, that's funny. Okay. So she was thinking, blank, blank, blank, and he wrote it. And I've actually heard teachers who say that they'll start to think of a word over and over, like, pumpkin, pumpkin, pumpkin. And the typer might write, stop saying pumpkin over and over again. But really, what I've heard from so many typers at this point is that you literally just have to clear your mind, like, clear your mind of all thoughts.

[B]

Yeah, well, Gavin says, literally, this is what he typed. Come on, now, I can read my mom's mind, too. But face it, we are more intelligent than both of their minds together. So, you know, it. It gets down to. It has nothing to do with. Oh, you're reading my mind. I'm Reading your mind or whatever. It's, it's. It's their intelligence, you know, I really try to not have anything going on. He said something about, you know, being way smarter and. And by the time I would think of something for him to write in my mind, he's already got it written and. Yeah. Or whatever. So it's like, don't even go there, Mom.

[A]

You know, that's great. And I mean, obviously, Gavin, you're so smart. It's always so uplifting. I mean, I think to all of us, you know, how smart and competent so many individuals who've been dismissed as differently abled are. And so, you know, I guess beyond connecting with the Holy Spirit, are there any other spiritual gifts Gavin experiences or insights he wants to share about the world and about consciousness?

[B]

Gavin said, I have the gift of seeing angels, and that is a beautiful gift. So many times people are too busy with life and they miss the gifts God puts right in front of them. My senses are heightened, so I notice things. Others may not be still with God, and he will show you remarkable things. I see auras around people. I can feel strong energy if a person is good or bad. Of course, being around lots of people at one time can be difficult. I am grateful that the people I hang out with are good energy. Consciousness is taking the time to be more aware of every single thing. This whole angel thing, you know, he had, what was it, grand mal seizure in 2020. And they would not let my husband or I stay that night at the hospital. And I'm like, are you kidding me? This is, you know, I probably said, I have a non verbal autistic person and you're not letting me stay?

[D]

Oh, no, no.

[B]

Because we don't know, you know, he has a high fever and we, you know, he could have Covid. I said, he doesn't have Covid. He's got a high fever because he just had the seizure, you know, or whatever. But they wouldn't let me stay. And I didn't sleep at all that night. But the next morning they let me come in. And he later spelled that there was nothing to worry about, mom, because every room I was in, God's heavenly beings were in the room. And we've had therapy done at different places too, throughout the years. And, you know, one time he'd look in the corner and he'd start giggling and smiling, and we're like, what? What are you doing? And he was, oh, never mind me. I'm just noticing the angel, you know, by the lamp and we're like what?

[A]

And Gavin, can I ask what that experience is like for you when you see angels? And it's something I have to, you know, say like a lot of non speakers have shared and you know, I guess is it always the same or do you have to be in a certain like state to see or access them? And like what do they look like when you see them and do they talk to you and can you hear them a lot?

[C]

Are beautiful beings not always do I see them, but I feel God sends them when we need them most. Yeah.

[B]

And there was one time too when we were at the other day program that he was with and the woman that created that program was on the phone with the hospital or with doctor for her daughter at the time. And we were all in the gym class. We were sitting and doing exercises in the chair and Gavin kept looking over by her and he spelled there is an angel by Annette's shoulder right now. So after she got off the phone then we went over there and said that there was an angel by you. Gavin said it was like a tough time for her. So God knew that she needed an angel buyer. Right? Yeah.

[A]

It's beautiful. Okay. So Cindy, I know we sent you a question for Gavin which was what are your desires for yourself and humanity? So how did Gavin answer that one?

[B]

This was cute. I'm not sure if I will get married, but I do have a special girl that has my heart. Being best friends is great. I will always continue to learn new things and with an open mind I would like to accomplish getting RPM spellers, unite activities set up in the future. And you said my desires are to be a published author of my book. I also want to live someday with my friends at Matthias Academy home. I pray that humanity can become loving and kind and stop being so hateful. And a lot of his writings too are about being kind, showing kindness, you know, how hard is it to do one kind act every day, you know, or things like that.

[A]

Wow, it's so awesome. And Gavin, you mentioned your book just now and in the emails you shared, Cindy, you said that you've been collecting his writings and are compiling them into a book. Can you tell us, you know, a little bit about what inspired that?

[B]

Gavin has just been spelling for well over a decade and he just always wants his writings out there and wanting people to know how intelligent they are and that just because their voices don't work and oftentimes it is the apraxia with him that just. It doesn't connect, you know, the body with the, with the mind. Right. It makes it hard to do that. And so he felt that it was important to let other people know that he's in there. They all are in there and they need to be heard and appreciated for everything that they do know.

[A]

So great. And Gavin, in your words, what would you say the book is about?

[B]

Gavin said, my book is about hope and encouragement for readers to believe in the one true God. It will help those who read it realize to never underestimate a special needs individual's ability. We are remarkable in so many ways. Tell her what you did today, Gavin. It was so exciting.

[C]

I signed a contract for my book, the Hopeful One to be published.

[A]

Okay, so Gavin spelled I signed the contract for my book the Hopeful One to be published.

[B]

He was so excited.

[A]

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[B]

The first question was what makes you most happy about the world and what makes you most frustrated? And you said, gavin, what makes me most happy with the world is having family and friends to hang out with and having a good time. I am happy surrounding myself with like minded people who have a positive outlook on life and love the Lord. My frustration with the world is too many people are negative and so hateful in their actions towards each other. I want kindness and love shown, not hate together. If we all show love and do acts of kindness daily, think of what a difference that would make in the world.

[A]

Yeah, that's so beautiful.

[B]

And that too. Thinking about if they are reading our mind and can read our mind, you know, do you want them to, oh, mom's always depressed, you know, or this is going on and that's going on, or she's thinking that it really makes you as a parent more aware that you want to be happy and more positive because it's not good to always feel those kind of negative thoughts.

[A]

Totally. It's a great reminder.

[B]

All right, the next question is, can non speaking autistic people connect telepathically with a severe down syndrome people? Are they also in there and can they learn to communicate through spelling or any other method? And you said, first of all, I do not like to be called non speaking autistic person. How about calling us differently speaking? Yeah. Yep. And he, he does have a shirt that says everyone communicates differently. A friend of his got for him. We can have connections with everyone, even severe down syndrome people. I have Down's friends and we communicate with very well together. It does not all have to be done telepathically, but it can for sure happen that way. For everyone's information, God created us all in there. I so believe that now because back in the day, you know so many people that, well, they don't know anything, you know, or they, or they would talk in front of him and it's like he's hearing you, you know, he's listening and it just drives you crazy. Gavin, we all have the ability to learn and with love and patience, the other disabilities can learn to communicate. It is all about never giving up on Us and believing in our abilities. Look past the diagnosis and do not let it define you. I use my weaknesses to be my strongest strengths. And he does. At the day program that he goes to, there's all different disabilities there. And he's got several downs friends. And the one that was doing bowling with us or whatever, he was just like so excited to, you know, communicate back and forth with Gavin. And oftentimes I would show him photos or whatever, and then I'd say, oh, what do you think of that? Or do you want to write anything about this? And then he would write something really cool. And there was a photo one of your friends was holding another girl in a wheelchair's hand. And he wrote this beautiful writing about they don't have to talk to be connected. Which then also made me think, what are they talking about?

[A]

Yes, I love that.

[B]

All right, the next question was, do you think non speakers are experiencing this physical lifetime here in order to teach others to help us evolve? And you said, absolutely. God had a plan when he sent me here. We are here to learn from. We are the gentle souls of love and peace that he wants the world to hear from. Our minds are not filled with the noise of this world. Our minds are filled with God's knowledge. To spread the light of God on this dark world is what I do to give hope to everyone. Too many are depressed and have anxiety. They need to know God is there for them. I feel we were sent to save the world from despair. People can learn a tremendous amount from us if they only take the time to listen. The next question is, do you find it insulting to be asked to do these tests and card identifications? What color is on cards 100 times to prove that you have these skills?

[A]

And for listeners, this is a reference to some of the tests and studies that were being done to try to test or prove that telepathy is occurring. And we did a lot of those in season one of the telepathy tapes. And there's more tests in the telepathy tapes, forthcoming film, and a bunch of tests on our backstage pass. So, okay, so, Gavin, what did you say?

[B]

He said, I personally was never asked a hundred times a question. However, I feel it takes the average person that many times to finally realize how intelligent we really are. We have remarkable skills. Everyone needs to believe in us. The next question is, what are the challenges you would prefer to have to optimize your skills for helping people? And you said, I would rather people take the time to spend with me, get to know me, see how I interact, listen to my words to learn from me. That way we are not lab rats to be used but intelligent human beings brought here by God for a purpose. This world would freak out if they knew what we all know. I rather stay humble and not boast about my abilities. And then the last question that the listeners were asking were I would love to ask a non speaker have they been able to communicate telepathically in the womb and as babies? And that I never ever thought of even asking him. So I was excited to hear what he said and he said maybe some have, but I never did. Telepathy is a gift that happened later on for me when I started noticing other gifts God was blessing me with like seeing angels. I started to feel strong energy of people's emotions and could at times read their minds. Like I said before, I am careful to not overuse this gift. It is something I worry about getting out of control. That's what he said about all the questions sent in and what you guys wanted.

[A]

Thank you so much Gavin for these just thoughtful responses and Cindy for reading them. Gavin, is there anything else you want to mention before we end?

[C]

Thank you for taking this time with me. Say hi to everyone from the hopeful one, Gavin Schultz. Love to you all.

[A]

Love to you all from everyone listening and our entire team. And thank you so much for sharing your story and insights.

[B]

Thank you. It was good to see you. Take care.

[A]

All right, thanks again. Bye bye Bye bye. That's it for this episode of the Talk Tracks, but new episodes will be released every Wednesday, so stay tuned as we work to unravel all the threads, even the veiled ones that knit together our reality. And please remember to stay kind, stay curious, and that being a true skeptic requires an open mind to dive in deeper. Subscribe to our Backstage Pass by visiting our website. With it, you'll unlock access to bonus content like Telepathy tests, Ask Me Anything, interviews with myself and guests. You'll be able to enjoy the podcast ad free, connect with other members on our Telepathy Tribe Discord and hear and see exclusive content from the Telepathy Tapes Vault. Visit our [e-mail] for more info on how to subscribe to our Backstage Pass. Thank you to my amazing collaborators, producers Kathryn Ellis and Selena Kennedy. Technical Directing Audio mix and finishing by Jeremy Cole Opening and closing music by Elizabeth P. W and original logo and cover art by Ben Condora. Design I'm Kai Dickens, your executive producer, writer and host.

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