Podcast Summary: The Telepathy Tapes — Talk Tracks Ep 11

Episode Title: Tom Campbell's Theory of Everything Explains Telepathy
Host: Ky Dickens
Guest: Tom Campbell, Physicist & Consciousness Researcher
Release Date: June 8, 2025

Overview

In this episode of Talk Tracks, host Ky Dickens explores the groundbreaking ideas of physicist Tom Campbell, author of the My Big TOE (Theory of Everything) trilogy. The discussion dives into Campbell’s unifying theory that positions consciousness—not matter—as the foundation of reality, and explores how this paradigm accounts for telepathy, out-of-body experiences, the afterlife, and ancient spiritual wisdoms. The conversation tackles provocations such as: Are we living in a simulation? Is telepathy innate? What is the true purpose of consciousness?

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Consciousness as the Foundations of Reality

• Reality as Information-Based:
  • Campbell posits that reality is not material but informational. Consciousness is fundamental; matter is derivative.
  • “Consciousness is source. Consciousness is the thing from which all else then is derived.” (Tom Campbell, [03:15])
  • The physical universe operates like a virtual reality where our consciousness “logs in” and controls an avatar (body).
  • Science and quantum physics increasingly suggest that reality’s underpinnings are informational, not physical ([03:15]–[07:06]).

2. Earth as a Learning Lab for Consciousness

• Purpose of Existence:
  • Our universe is designed by the “larger consciousness system” to provide challenging choices that drive growth and lower entropy, i.e., chaos and disorder diminish as entities evolve through love, cooperation, and trust.
  • “The system needed a second virtual reality, which provided us with more choices — I call that the big digital bang.” (Tom, [08:17])
  • Movement toward love is equated with lowering entropy; making fear-based, self-centered choices raises entropy and leads to “de-evolution” ([07:14]–[10:39]).

3. Spiritual Parallels and Challenging the Simulation Hypothesis

• Overlap with Faith and Ancient Wisdoms:
  • Campbell’s model readily aligns with spiritual traditions—the “individuated units of consciousness” mirror the concept of souls, and a love-based growth process echoes teachings from Buddhism, Christianity, indigenous faiths, and others.
  • Ky observes: “It just does feel like the concept of a soul...” (Ky, [15:55])
• Is There Still a God?
  • Campbell redefines God as the “larger consciousness system”—intelligent, evolving, not perfect or supernatural, but continuously learning alongside us:
    • “It's not perfect. It is not done. It has to learn, just like we have to learn.” (Tom, [16:17])

4. Free Will, Ego, Fear, and Growth

• Opposites: Love vs. Fear:
  • Evolution involves moving from fear (causing ego and limiting beliefs) toward love (selfless, cooperative action).
  • “The two opposite poles are love and fear, not love and hate. Hate is a product of fear.” (Tom, [18:42])
• Agency Exists:
  • Free will is real; the universe is not deterministic. Choices are limited by individual “decision spaces”—the subset of possibilities we can perceive at any moment ([21:56]).

5. Tom’s Personal Experiments and the Science of Out-of-Body Experiences

• Monroe Institute & Telepathic Experiments:
  • Campbell’s partnership with Bob Monroe resulted in controlled, soundproofed experiments where he and another subject, Dennis Minarik, would intentionally “meet” out of body, converse, and later confirm their experiences were shared:
    • “We were just having conversations. I stopped after that asking, is it real? I knew that we were doing things that were paranormal...” (Tom, [25:56])
  • Binaural Beats & Hemisync: Tools like binaural beats can help beginners enter meditative/trance states akin to experienced meditators ([29:13]).

6. Accessing Paranormal Abilities: Telepathy & Intention

• Natural Abilities of Consciousness:
  • All consciousnesses are “netted” like the internet—telepathy is just communication on the intuitive, not intellectual, level.
  • “It’s just normal consciousness, not paranormal.” (Tom, [32:02])
  • Neurodivergent individuals (e.g., some non-speakers with autism) may develop intuitive abilities through necessity, but such abilities are accessible to anyone willing to practice and develop their intuitive side.
• Power of Intention:
  • Intention modifies probabilities in this informational universe. Focused intent can influence outcomes (e.g., weather for a picnic, or healing).
  • “You modify the probabilities of what will happen next with your intent…what happens then in the world are these results of random draws from probability distributions.” (Tom, [36:23])
• Remote Viewing, Out-of-Body, and “Akashic Records”:
  • All these abilities (remote viewing, mind-to-mind communication) are applications of conscious intent within this system.
  • The “Akashic Records” are a database maintained by the larger consciousness system, containing all possible futures and pasts—the database required to run the simulation ([32:02]–[36:04]).

7. Ethics and Practice in Psi Phenomena

• Self-Policing System:
  • Paranormal abilities cannot be easily abused; intentions matter. Using abilities for selfish/egoistic purposes leads to failure.
    • “It's basically counter to the system...if you're a fearful person and want to abuse things, you'll never be very good at anything paranormal.” (Tom, [43:01])
• Practice and Gradual Mastery:
  • With time and practice, anyone can develop these skills, analogous to mastering a musical instrument ([41:01]).

8. Other Virtual Realities and the Multiverse

• Multiple Universes and Incarnations:
  • Our universe is just one virtual reality among many; after ‘death,’ most beings re-enter the familiar game (Earth), but can choose other realities with different “rule sets” ([45:03]–[47:21]).
  • The reason for returning is familiarity and the chance to “level up” at the game of life.
• Ultimate Purpose:
  • The true aim is lowering entropy through love, kindness, and coordination—all world religions, at core, teach this lesson ([48:23]).

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Simulation and Consciousness:
  • “Consciousness is basically information. Consciousness is awareness with a choice.” (Tom Campbell, [03:15])
• On Purpose of Existence:
  • “Our purpose here is to learn to become love, to make choices that are love based, that are caring, that are about other rather than about self.” (Tom, [10:39])
• On Free Will:
  • “Free will is not getting whatever you want. That's not free will. That's having a genie that has unlimited wishes. Free will just says that of the choices that you know about, you can pick one in order to go that direction.” (Tom, [21:56])
• On God and the Larger Consciousness:
  • “The system is what many people call God. It's intelligent, it's conscious, and its evolution is improved by our evolution…It is not perfect. It is not done. It has to learn, just like we have to learn.” (Tom, [16:17])
• On Intuitive Abilities and Non-Speakers:
  • “Anyone can do the things that they do. You don't have to be autistic to read people's minds or do things like that. So you can quite intentionally develop that side and then you can connect mind to mind.” (Tom, [32:02])
• On Out-of-Body Verification:
  • “I stopped asking, is this real? I knew it was real. There was no other explanation.” (Tom, [25:56])
• On Ethics of Psi Abilities:
  • “If you practice enough to get really good at it, you probably will also grow up enough that you won't misuse it. And those two things are kind of not compatible with each other.” (Tom, [43:01])
• On Spiritual Commonalities:
  • “There is only one truth. But there’s thousands of ways to approach that truth.” (Tom, [25:03])

Key Timestamps

• [03:15] – Campbell explains consciousness as the source of reality.
• [07:14] – Earth and physical reality as a “learning lab.”
• [10:39] – On entropy, evolution, and intentions rooted in love and fear.
• [16:17] – The definition and evolution of the “larger consciousness system” (God).
• [18:42] – Love vs. fear as foundations for growth or stagnation.
• [21:56] – Affirmation of free will and its boundaries.
• [25:56] – Campbell shares confirmation of out-of-body, telepathic experiences at Monroe Institute.
• [32:02] – Telepathy and ‘paranormal’ abilities explained as natural functions of netted consciousness.
• [36:23] – The mechanics behind the “power of intention.”
• [43:01] – Ethics, boundaries, and self-policing within psi capacities.
• [45:03] – Discussion of other realities and life forms/metaphysical multiverse.
• [47:21] – Why souls usually “reincarnate” on Earth.
• [48:23] – Core message: Love and cooperation as the purpose of consciousness.

Final Thoughts & Takeaways

This episode offers a sweeping, ambitious look at the intersection of science and spirituality through Tom Campbell’s “Theory of Everything.” By suggesting consciousness as the fundamental layer of all reality, Campbell provides a rational framework that accounts for psi phenomena (like telepathy and remote viewing), reincarnation, the afterlife, and the convergence of world religions around themes of love, compassion, and growth.

Campbell’s approach challenges listeners to consider that what appears supernatural may simply reflect untapped potentials of consciousness. At the same time, the episode builds a bridge between the visions of modern physics and age-old spiritual truths, leaving listeners with an invitation to “stay curious, to listen, and to consider the possibility that science and spirituality might not be at odds, but part of the same unfolding mystery.” (Ky Dickens, [48:58])

For more about Tom Campbell’s research and his books: mybigtoe.com
Episodes released every other Sunday; stay tuned for further explorations of psi, consciousness, and the nature of reality.