The Telepathy Tapes: Talk Tracks Ep 3
Q&A with Parents, Scientists & Educators from Season One
Host: Ky Dickens
Date: February 16, 2025
Episode Overview
In this special Q&A episode of "The Telepathy Tapes: Talk Tracks," host Ky Dickens gathers parents, educators, and scientists featured in Season One to dive deeper into the extraordinary, often controversial phenomenon of telepathy and other psi abilities among non-speakers with autism. Listeners' questions are answered, focusing on research, the ethics and realities of testing, personal experiences, and the pressing needs of this community. The conversation explores profound topics—from the ethics of scientific testing and interdimensional perceptions to practicalities like communication access and societal support for non-speakers.
Key Participants
- Ky Dickens (Host)
- Katie Asher (Mother of Houston)
- Libby Ingram (Mother of John Paul, Speech Language Pathologist)
- Casey (Educator, formed a telepathic connection with students)
- Susie Miller (Former Speech Language Pathologist, now telepathic communicator)
- Dr. Diane Powell (Neuroscientist and Parapsychologist)
- Manisha Ladd (Mother of Akhil)
- Maria Welch (Speech Therapist specializing in non-speakers)
Major Discussion Points & Insights
1. Ethics and Consent in Telepathy Research
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Parent-Led Initiatives: Dr. Powell clarifies that families usually approach her after witnessing unusual abilities at home and seeking answers—not the other way around.
Quote:"All over the world they have been witnessing something in their home that they didn't understand...I don't see that we're having to present anything to them. It's more that they're presenting to us."
— Dr. Powell (04:45) -
Children’s Autonomy: Families consult with their kids, who express a strong desire to be tested to seek recognition and systemic change.
Quote:"John Paul said spelled it had to be done because he wants to see change for...his friends to have a better life."
— Libby (05:46) -
Ethical Foundations: There's a shared emphasis on honoring the children and their autonomy first, with carefully controlled conditions for formal research.
Quote:"The last thing I want to do is anything that makes people feel like they're being challenged in a way that is not honoring the children."
— Dr. Powell (09:09)
2. Scientific Testing and Double-Blind Studies
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Rigorous Standards Acknowledged: Dr. Powell partners only with genuinely open-minded, rigorous scientists, seeking airtight protocols with as much separation between participants as feasible.
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Double-Blind Misconceptions: Dr. Powell and Libby critique inappropriate or soul-crushing application of double-blind methods from outsiders unfamiliar with spelling and communication methods.
Quote:"People are throwing the term double-blind out there without really being someone who really thinks it through enough to realize what you're exactly asking of people here."
— Dr. Powell (45:31) -
Parapsychological Expertise: Powell highlights the need for research controls suited to this context and the discipline's tradition of rigorous self-scrutiny.
Timestamps:
- [09:09] – Approach to scientific testing and skepticism
- [38:37] – Double-blind study challenges and soul-crushing impacts
- [45:31] – Adapting control methodologies for telepathy research
3. Societal Response and Impact
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Overwhelming Support: The release of "The Telepathy Tapes" empowered parents, therapists, and non-speakers, creating validation and excitement about expanded possibilities.
Quote:"It was just so validating for everybody. The questions that I get...are, how can I become more telepathic?"
— Susie (14:05) -
Desperation for Communication: Many parents reach out, yearning for meaningful connection and wondering how to access or foster these abilities in their own children.
Quote:"It's just this intense desperation to have access to, to their child's heart and thoughts and to know their child."
— Katie (15:53) -
Barriers to Access: Limited access to communication methods (like spelling), lack of trained professionals, and prohibitive costs remain major obstacles—as does the emotional toll on families.
Quote:"There needs to be more teachers, caregivers, parents that are able to have access to spelling. Spelling. And there's...limitations. It's expensive, and that needs to change because that's another way of gatekeeping."
— Libby (16:32)
4. Psi Abilities: Time, Precognition, and Non-Human Communication
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Time Perception and Precognition:
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Non-speakers describe complex experiences of time—access to multiple timelines, precognition, and "timeless nature."
Quotes:"He has access to multiple timelines and he can see future and past on those multiple timelines."
— Casey (18:37)"I have zero doubt whatsoever that these kids play beyond time and space the way we know time and space."
— Susie (20:00)
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Interaction with Non-Human Intelligence:
- Experiences include communicating with angels, deceased loved ones, entities, memories of other planetary lives, and learning from "the stars, moon, and the stars."
Quotes:
"John Paul...saw angels...he was so adamant that we love each other...he didn't have a lot of fear because he knew there was something so much better."
— Libby (22:28)"[Akhil] would try to give me messages of some random people...his purpose is to give messages to the people on the Earth...the stars, moon, and the stars are his teachers."
— Manisha (24:50) - Experiences include communicating with angels, deceased loved ones, entities, memories of other planetary lives, and learning from "the stars, moon, and the stars."
5. Can Telepathic Abilities Be Learned by Neurotypical People?
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Conditions for Development:
- Both Casey and Susie describe how their own telepathic abilities emerged—Casey on a spiritual journey, Susie as an "accidental" telepath after encounters with non-speakers.
Quotes:
"I was already becoming very self aware...they opened up some energetic channels within me that allowed this gift to blossom."
— Casey (31:59)"If anything, I was avoiding [a spiritual journey] at all cost...these kids can see aspects of ourselves that we don't even know exist. They will invite [us] to higher states of consciousness."
— Susie (33:37) - Both Casey and Susie describe how their own telepathic abilities emerged—Casey on a spiritual journey, Susie as an "accidental" telepath after encounters with non-speakers.
6. Supporting Non-Speakers and Their Families
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Practical Support:
- Highest priorities remain cultivating respectful, positive communication, presuming competence, and increasing access to spelling/communication technologies.
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Emotional & Systemic Pressures:
- Parents, especially mothers, face isolation, exhaustion, and endurance of systemic failures—calls for better support structures and less gatekeeping.
Quotes:
"I felt so isolated...I cannot even discuss these things...because you're not going to understand me."
— Manisha (28:16)"Our one friend said...we need the same chance to be known that everyone else gets effortlessly."
— Katie (49:30)- Role of Institutions: School and medical systems are seen as outdated and sometimes harmful, prioritizing clinical skepticism over personal evidence and true support.
7. Autonomy, Agency, and Avoiding Exploitation
- Guarding Against Exploitation:
- Multiple communication partners and self-advocacy are highlighted as preventive strategies.
- Participation in research or public demonstration should always be at the child's choice, centering their well-being.
Quotes:
"The only way to make sure that their authentic voice is validated is by having many communication partners that they communicate with."
— Katie (47:31)
"They just have a sense and a knowing of what their purpose is...the important part is getting them the ability to express themselves."
— Casey (48:23)
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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"My adamancy was Akhil is the data, I am the data. Are you ready to take it? Because believing Akhil is to believing myself."
— Manisha (06:20) -
"Precognition in its simplest forms is knowing of something before it happens. Houston...started telling me what he had seen in heaven...about time and how there are these giant gears...there are gears too wonderful to explain..."
— Katie (21:04) -
"When we get beyond materialism, there are all kinds of worlds and reality realities."
— Susie (23:49) -
“My child is not disabled, that it's the system that's disabled.”
— Manisha (44:52) -
"The baseline to all of this is presuming competence."
— Ky Dickens (49:08)
Important Timestamps
- [04:45] Dr. Powell on approach to testing and parent consent
- [05:46] Libby and others on child autonomy and ethical participation in testing
- [09:09] & [10:44] On rigor, skepticism, and respecting subjects in research
- [14:05] Susie on overwhelmingly positive response to the podcast
- [15:53] Katie on parental longing for communication
- [18:37] Case studies in time perception and precognition
- [22:28] Reports of communication with angels and non-human intelligences
- [27:16] Practical tips for supporters: maintain loving thoughts, be present
- [31:59] & [33:37] Insights on possibility of learning telepathy
- [38:37] & [45:31] Double-blind study controversies and scientific rigor
- [44:52] Systemic failures and the paradigm shift needed
- [47:31] Communication partners as a safeguard against exploitation
Takeaways for Listeners
- Validation & Belief: The panel urges listeners to presume competence in non-speakers, understand the lived reality of their families, and support pathways to communication.
- Scientific Integrity: The field requires rigor, sensitivity, and nuance—both in experimental design and how trials are conducted with vulnerable individuals.
- Education & Advocacy: There’s an urgent need for accessible, funded spelling/communication training, systemic reform, and support—especially for families navigating isolation and burnout.
- Openness to the Extraordinary: The stories shared push the boundaries of accepted reality—challenging materialist models of mind, time, and connection.
In Closing
This Talk Tracks episode breaks new ground by giving space to the lived expertise of non-speaker families and their allies, backing their experiences with opening scientific scrutiny and a call for compassionate, collective evolution. The episode leaves listeners motivated to support, believe, and advocate for a world where every voice, spoken or unspoken, is heard.
