The Telepathy Tapes: Talk Tracks Ep 5

Episode Title: Consciousness Beyond The Body: When a Coma Projects a Ghost
Host: Ky Dickens
Guests: Elodie Tarantino (Experiencer/Medium), Loyd Auerbach (Parapsychologist)
Release Date: March 16, 2025

Episode Overview

In this compelling episode, host Ky Dickens explores mind-bending stories that challenge conventional ideas about consciousness and communication. Listeners are taken on a journey through accounts of telepathic rescue, near-death experiences (NDEs), and the phenomenon of consciousness appearing outside the body, particularly in states like coma or dementia. With moving firsthand testimony from Elodie Tarantino and the expert insights of parapsychologist Loyd Auerbach, the episode questions the boundary between scientific knowledge and the mystical, emphasizing deep connectivity and hope for the underestimated.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Elodie's Near-Death Experience and Spiritual Awakening

[03:01–05:25]

• At 18, Elodie suffered an undiagnosed ruptured ovarian cyst, resulting in severe blood loss and a profound NDE.
  • Felt overwhelming warmth and love, described as "pouring warm milk" and traveling toward "a golden ball of light."
  • Saw past, present, and future simultaneously in a timeless realm.
  • After revival, she experienced heightened sensitivity to spiritual phenomena, calling it like “being a little mouse put out into the desert.”

Quote:
“I felt like somebody was pouring warm milk on top of my head. And I felt this sensation go through me of love, comfort, warmth.”
— Elodie Tarantino [04:11]

2. Telepathic Intervention: Brandon Saves a Life

[06:02–11:05]

• Following Elodie's NDE, depression led her to a suicidal crisis.
• While contemplating ending her life, she prayed desperately for help and received an unmistakable telepathic message from a young boy named Brandon.
  • She immediately “saw” him in her mind: “I know his name was Brandon, and I know he has dark hair.” [09:08]
  • The next morning, Amy (an acquaintance whose aunt worked at a special ed program) called and said Brandon, a non-speaking autistic boy, instructed her to check on Elodie because she “asked in God last night.”
  • Brandon was nearly 3 hours away.

Quote:
“Elodie, God hears your prayers.”
— Telepathic message (Brandon, via Elodie) [09:09]

• Elodie travelled to meet Brandon and witnessed him communicating entirely through typing, describing the telepathic "lollipop line" he used to connect with others (precursor to the "hill" motif in telepathy episodes).
• The experience ended Elodie’s suicidal ideation permanently.

Quote:
“No. Brandon sealed the deal for me… Don’t forget why you’re here. And that was it.”
— Elodie Tarantino [16:59]

3. The “Lollipop Line” and Autistic Telepathy

[15:07–16:38]

• Brandon referred to the telepathic link as the “lollipop line,” a term that predates current terminology by 35 years, signifying a network or field of connection among non-speaking autistic individuals and others.
• The group regularly experienced these phenomena, suggesting community acceptance and collective experience.

Memorable Moment:
“She goes, Brandon’s been talking about you for months… we’re used to this, but, you know, clearly you’re not.”
— Brandon’s mother to Elodie [14:01]

4. Spiritual Gifts Heightened by NDEs & Perception of Nonverbal People

[17:59–21:57]

• Elodie describes her post-NDE mediumship gifts: multilayered perception involving thoughts, feelings, images, emotions—depending on the spirit’s personality.
• She underscores that nonverbal people, including those with Alzheimer’s or in comas, remain consciously present and sometimes reach out telepathically—a claim supported by her firsthand mediumistic experiences.

Quote:
“Anything I speak, anything I say is heard and felt by the whole. … We’re a big spider web... we could be so far from the other section, but we’re connected to the whole.”
— Elodie Tarantino [22:39]

5. Expert Perspective: The Consciousness of Coma, Dementia, and More

[24:47–35:34]

• Introduction of Loyd Auerbach, parapsychologist, to discuss consciousness extending beyond the sick or comatose body.
• Case Study (Mid-1980s, Marin County):
  • A mother (Sue) and her sons repeatedly saw a little girl in their house, whom they later identified as the living—though dying—relative of a neighbor.
  • The neighbor’s terminally ill cousin, in home hospice, described “dreaming” of being a little girl playing at Sue’s house, matching the apparition and calling Sue and the boys by name.
  • The apparition (as a child or occasionally as an adult in pain) only appeared when the woman was unconscious or dreaming, not when awake, corresponding with times of deep sedation or coma.
  • Changes in her hospice medication affected the type of apparition Sue's family saw.
  • Upon the woman’s death, the apparition ceased entirely.

Quote:
“Oh, you’re that nice lady from down the street.”
— Dying woman in hospice, upon meeting Sue [30:29]

Expert Explanation:

• This phenomenon, called “apparition of the living” or “bilocation,” involves the projection of consciousness during altered states (NDE, coma, dementia, heavy sedation).
• Auerbach notes extensive historical documentation, positing that consciousness is not solely brain-bound.

Quote:
“We have a long history in parapsychology... of what are called apparitions of the living...”
— Loyd Auerbach [33:38]

6. Ethical and Emotional Implications

[22:25–23:34, 36:10–36:20]

• The episode emphasizes the need for compassionate communication around nonverbal individuals, respecting their “full presence” regardless of outward responsiveness.
• The story of facilitated communication being shut down resonates as a tragic loss (“so devastating to think of all those people that were made to stop communicating” [17:41]).
• Ky underscores that acknowledging this network of consciousness is crucial for human dignity and for better supporting nonverbal people.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “It’s all telepathy. … We are leaving people in hospitals … who are there, but nobody’s acknowledging that.” — Elodie Tarantino [21:15]
• “Sue gets real curious, like, how do you know this? And she said, ‘Well, I dream about you. I dream that I’m still a little girl in my childhood home, and I go down and visit, and you look just like my mother.’” — Loyd Auerbach [30:50]
• “The little girl’s ghost disappeared. Shortly after, she found out that she [the dying woman] had died… she did not appear after she had actually physically passed away.” — Loyd Auerbach [33:20]

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 03:01 — Elodie’s Near-Death Experience
• 06:02 — Onset of Depression and Telepathic Rescue
• 09:09 — The Telepathic Message from Brandon
• 13:44 — Introduction to Nonverbal Communication, Visiting Brandon
• 15:07 — "Lollipop Line" Telepathy Explanation
• 16:59 — Elodie’s Healing and Moving Forward
• 22:39 — Interconnectedness after NDE: “Spiderweb” Metaphor
• 24:47 — Loyd Auerbach: Parapsychologist’s Perspective
• 30:29 — Case Study: Apparition of the Living, Recognition Moment
• 33:38 — Apparition of the Living Explained
• 36:10 — Ky reflects on the implications and outlines future episodes

Summary & Takeaways

This episode of Talk Tracks stands as a remarkable exploration of the frontiers of consciousness. Personal stories and expert testimony converge to suggest that awareness can—and often does—reach far beyond the body, even in altered or nonverbal states. Listeners are invited to expand their understanding of reality, contemplate the profound inner lives of non-speakers, and consider the ethical responsibility we have to recognize and honor consciousness, wherever and however it appears.

Closing Note:
Ky Dickens teases future episodes on this expanding theme, challenging listeners “to stay kind, stay curious, and that being a true skeptic requires an open mind.” [36:20]