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Talk Tracks Ep 5: Consciousness Beyond The Body: When a Coma Projects a Ghost

The Telepathy Tapes

Sun Mar 16 2025

Summary

The Telepathy Tapes: Talk Tracks Ep 5

Episode Title: Consciousness Beyond The Body: When a Coma Projects a Ghost
Host: Ky Dickens
Guests: Elodie Tarantino (Experiencer/Medium), Loyd Auerbach (Parapsychologist)
Release Date: March 16, 2025

Episode Overview

In this compelling episode, host Ky Dickens explores mind-bending stories that challenge conventional ideas about consciousness and communication. Listeners are taken on a journey through accounts of telepathic rescue, near-death experiences (NDEs), and the phenomenon of consciousness appearing outside the body, particularly in states like coma or dementia. With moving firsthand testimony from Elodie Tarantino and the expert insights of parapsychologist Loyd Auerbach, the episode questions the boundary between scientific knowledge and the mystical, emphasizing deep connectivity and hope for the underestimated.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Elodie's Near-Death Experience and Spiritual Awakening

[03:01–05:25]

At 18, Elodie suffered an undiagnosed ruptured ovarian cyst, resulting in severe blood loss and a profound NDE.
- Felt overwhelming warmth and love, described as "pouring warm milk" and traveling toward "a golden ball of light."
- Saw past, present, and future simultaneously in a timeless realm.
- After revival, she experienced heightened sensitivity to spiritual phenomena, calling it like “being a little mouse put out into the desert.”

Quote:
“I felt like somebody was pouring warm milk on top of my head. And I felt this sensation go through me of love, comfort, warmth.”
— Elodie Tarantino [04:11]

2. Telepathic Intervention: Brandon Saves a Life

[06:02–11:05]

Following Elodie's NDE, depression led her to a suicidal crisis.
While contemplating ending her life, she prayed desperately for help and received an unmistakable telepathic message from a young boy named Brandon.
- She immediately “saw” him in her mind: “I know his name was Brandon, and I know he has dark hair.” [09:08]
- The next morning, Amy (an acquaintance whose aunt worked at a special ed program) called and said Brandon, a non-speaking autistic boy, instructed her to check on Elodie because she “asked in God last night.”
- Brandon was nearly 3 hours away.

Quote:
“Elodie, God hears your prayers.”
— Telepathic message (Brandon, via Elodie) [09:09]

Elodie travelled to meet Brandon and witnessed him communicating entirely through typing, describing the telepathic "lollipop line" he used to connect with others (precursor to the "hill" motif in telepathy episodes).
The experience ended Elodie’s suicidal ideation permanently.

Quote:
“No. Brandon sealed the deal for me… Don’t forget why you’re here. And that was it.”
— Elodie Tarantino [16:59]

3. The “Lollipop Line” and Autistic Telepathy

[15:07–16:38]

Brandon referred to the telepathic link as the “lollipop line,” a term that predates current terminology by 35 years, signifying a network or field of connection among non-speaking autistic individuals and others.
The group regularly experienced these phenomena, suggesting community acceptance and collective experience.

Memorable Moment:
“She goes, Brandon’s been talking about you for months… we’re used to this, but, you know, clearly you’re not.”
— Brandon’s mother to Elodie [14:01]

4. Spiritual Gifts Heightened by NDEs & Perception of Nonverbal People

[17:59–21:57]

Elodie describes her post-NDE mediumship gifts: multilayered perception involving thoughts, feelings, images, emotions—depending on the spirit’s personality.
She underscores that nonverbal people, including those with Alzheimer’s or in comas, remain consciously present and sometimes reach out telepathically—a claim supported by her firsthand mediumistic experiences.

Quote:
“Anything I speak, anything I say is heard and felt by the whole. … We’re a big spider web... we could be so far from the other section, but we’re connected to the whole.”
— Elodie Tarantino [22:39]

5. Expert Perspective: The Consciousness of Coma, Dementia, and More

[24:47–35:34]

Introduction of Loyd Auerbach, parapsychologist, to discuss consciousness extending beyond the sick or comatose body.
Case Study (Mid-1980s, Marin County):
- A mother (Sue) and her sons repeatedly saw a little girl in their house, whom they later identified as the living—though dying—relative of a neighbor.
- The neighbor’s terminally ill cousin, in home hospice, described “dreaming” of being a little girl playing at Sue’s house, matching the apparition and calling Sue and the boys by name.
- The apparition (as a child or occasionally as an adult in pain) only appeared when the woman was unconscious or dreaming, not when awake, corresponding with times of deep sedation or coma.
- Changes in her hospice medication affected the type of apparition Sue's family saw.
- Upon the woman’s death, the apparition ceased entirely.

Quote:
“Oh, you’re that nice lady from down the street.”
— Dying woman in hospice, upon meeting Sue [30:29]

Expert Explanation:

This phenomenon, called “apparition of the living” or “bilocation,” involves the projection of consciousness during altered states (NDE, coma, dementia, heavy sedation).
Auerbach notes extensive historical documentation, positing that consciousness is not solely brain-bound.

Quote:
“We have a long history in parapsychology... of what are called apparitions of the living...”
— Loyd Auerbach [33:38]

6. Ethical and Emotional Implications

[22:25–23:34, 36:10–36:20]

The episode emphasizes the need for compassionate communication around nonverbal individuals, respecting their “full presence” regardless of outward responsiveness.
The story of facilitated communication being shut down resonates as a tragic loss (“so devastating to think of all those people that were made to stop communicating” [17:41]).
Ky underscores that acknowledging this network of consciousness is crucial for human dignity and for better supporting nonverbal people.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

“It’s all telepathy. … We are leaving people in hospitals … who are there, but nobody’s acknowledging that.” — Elodie Tarantino [21:15]
“Sue gets real curious, like, how do you know this? And she said, ‘Well, I dream about you. I dream that I’m still a little girl in my childhood home, and I go down and visit, and you look just like my mother.’” — Loyd Auerbach [30:50]
“The little girl’s ghost disappeared. Shortly after, she found out that she [the dying woman] had died… she did not appear after she had actually physically passed away.” — Loyd Auerbach [33:20]

Timestamps for Key Segments

03:01 — Elodie’s Near-Death Experience
06:02 — Onset of Depression and Telepathic Rescue
09:09 — The Telepathic Message from Brandon
13:44 — Introduction to Nonverbal Communication, Visiting Brandon
15:07 — "Lollipop Line" Telepathy Explanation
16:59 — Elodie’s Healing and Moving Forward
22:39 — Interconnectedness after NDE: “Spiderweb” Metaphor
24:47 — Loyd Auerbach: Parapsychologist’s Perspective
30:29 — Case Study: Apparition of the Living, Recognition Moment
33:38 — Apparition of the Living Explained
36:10 — Ky reflects on the implications and outlines future episodes

Summary & Takeaways

This episode of Talk Tracks stands as a remarkable exploration of the frontiers of consciousness. Personal stories and expert testimony converge to suggest that awareness can—and often does—reach far beyond the body, even in altered or nonverbal states. Listeners are invited to expand their understanding of reality, contemplate the profound inner lives of non-speakers, and consider the ethical responsibility we have to recognize and honor consciousness, wherever and however it appears.

Closing Note:
Ky Dickens teases future episodes on this expanding theme, challenging listeners “to stay kind, stay curious, and that being a true skeptic requires an open mind.” [36:20]

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Transcript

A (0:02)

Before we dive in today, I want to announce that the second season of the telepathy tapes will be dropping on October 15th. So mark your calendars and get ready because season two, the consciousness channel, is a month away. Do you have a story, insight or research that belongs on the Telepathy Tapes or Talk tracks? Email storieslepathytapes.com and if you want to go deeper, ask me anything or get ad free episodes. Subscribe at the telepathytapes.supercast.com or tap the Supercast link in the show notes. Hi everyone, I'm Kai Dickens and I'm thrilled to welcome you to the Talk tracks. In this series, we dive deeper into the revelations, challenges and unexpected truths from the Telepathy tapes. The goal is to explore all the threads that weave together our understanding of reality, science, spirituality, and yes, even unexplained things like psi abilities. If you haven't yet listened to season one of the Telepathy tapes, I encourage you to start there. It lays the foundation for everything we'll be exploring in this journey. We'll feature conversations with groundbreaking researchers, thinkers, non speakers and experiencers who illuminate the extraordinary connections that may defy explanation today, but won't for long.

B (1:22)

Over the past year I've encountered some mind bending stories, so it's pretty rare now for something to leave me a bit speechless.

A (1:29)

But today we have two extraordinary stories.

B (1:32)

That did just that. One tells the story of a young non speaking boy who used telepathy to save a life from miles away. The other reveals how a dying woman's consciousness returned to her family home so powerfully that the new family living there mistook it for a ghost. Both stories challenge the very limits of what we believe about consciousness, suggesting that our awareness isn't confined to our bodies and that deep unseen connections can transcend distance perception and even our understanding of reality itself. So first we welcome Elodie.

C (2:10)

So Elodie, I mean, I'm so excited because you know, we do have emails coming in from listeners and it's always just really exciting to hear stories and there's some that just pop out and I think, oh my gosh, I want our audience to hear the story because it's so beautiful. So I guess for starters, why don't you introduce yourself.

D (2:26)

My name is Elodie Tarantino and I live in North Georgia mountains. I'm a mother of two boys, beautiful boys. They're 22 and 21 and we own a pizzeria.

B (2:38)

Okay, so first you wrote an email that just stunned us and I'D love.

D (3:01)

I had a cyst on my ovary that I was unaware of that ruptured. And when it ruptured, it popped a little bitty blood vessel and I started bleeding out. Within minutes I was going downhill because I had lost so much blood. I lost nine U units of blood. And I remember being in a fetal position, jerking, still not aware what was going on. And the nurse was rubbing my head, saying, baby, stay with me. Stay with me, honey. And it was so. It was so strange because I still didn't know what was happening. I just kept telling her, I'm so cold, I'm so cold. And then the most amazing thing, I rolled over. I felt like somebody was pouring warm milk on top of my head. And I felt this sensation go through me of love, comfort, warmth. It was really amazing. And I straightened out and I remember looking at the lady and her saying, baby, stay with me. And I shut my eyes. The near death experience happened within a few minutes. There was this golden ball of light to my left which was all encompassing love. And I was flying towards this sun that was so brilliant orange. I can't even describe the colors that I saw, but this color was amazingly like a tangerine. And we're going towards. And I remember thinking my, my skin's not getting hot because I really thought I was flying into the sun. So I'm like, my face is not getting hot. And then when I arrived inside the sun, it was amazing because there were all these people. And over to my left were different groups of people. Down in front of me were all these people in this. There was like this chiffon energy screen that was happening above their heads. And it was my whole life. It was my past, present and future happening all at once. There was no linear time here. It was very strange. I wasn't overwhelmed by looking at it. Next thing I knew, I woke up a few days later and the. The awareness was I felt like I had been a little mouse living in a glass cage my whole life being content and then put out in the desert. I started getting flashbacks of me being where I was.

A (11:05)

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E (29:14)

We did find out that the family living up the street from them in the other original home, it was actually the grandson, apparently, of one of the original brothers, the one who built that house up the street. So at my suggestion, she went up the street and talked to the grandsons of that family, showed them the pictures, pointed to the little girl, told them about the ghost. And the guy says, well, no, it can't be her. She's upstairs. That's my cousin. She's upstairs. She's in home hospice care. She has terminal cancer. She has a caregiver up there, and she's upstairs. So sue came down, back down to her house, called me, and we arranged for her to go up and meet the woman who was in home hospice care. She took the boy, Sue. Sue took her two sons with her. When she walked in the room, she waited to make sure that the home caregiver, that nurse, actually said she is awake, because apparently the woman was in and out of consciousness. She was not constantly awake. She was in pain. So she was on painkillers, and she was in and out of consciousness. So they waited for a time that she was awake and clear, and they basically, as they walked in, when she was awake, the woman looked up and said, oh, you're that nice lady from down the street. And she said hello to the two young boys by name. She called them by their first names. So sue gets real curious, like, how do you know this? And she said, well, I dream about you. I dream that I'm still a little girl in my childhood home, and I go down and visit, and you look just like my mother. Now, this is a really interesting thing. Sue had found pictures of the mother, the wife of the guy who built the house. And there was a really strong resemblance to Sue. I mean, they could have been sisters, if not almost twins. So this continued in a couple of different ways. Sue and the kids had a sort of established relationship with the woman and the apparition of the woman when she was a young girl, a little girl would still appear down the street. One thing that happened, though, changed because sue called me at one point and said, she's appeared as an adult. She looks like she's in real pain. I said, you need to call the nurse and find out what's going on, because obviously something is happening. And so sue calls the nurse and said, the nurse says, well, we changed your pain medication. And sue, just thinking on her feet, said, tell them to change it back. She's obviously in a lot of pain, or at least ask her. And she was in a lot of pain. So after, apparently the medication was changed back, the little girl starts appearing again. The woman's still going in and out of consciousness, sleeping, waking up, talking about, dreaming about the kids, all of that stuff. And I was able to speak to the nurse and get kind of a logbook, a chronology of when she was unconscious and when sue saw the apparition. And it was always when the woman was asleep or unconscious in some way. So it was never when she was awake. So she was dreaming about it and apparently going out of body and appearing that way. Though at one point, sue did hear from the family that it looked like she was towards the end of her life. So sue actually said something, the little girl, which was, you need to save your energy for yourself, not come out and see us all the time. In the meantime, I just mentioned that they had been up there many times. And again, the woman did say that she was dreaming about this. So eventually sue, like I said, told her to put her energy together. She went up there and made sure that was clear to her when she was awake as well. And at that point, the little girl's ghost disappeared. Shortly after she found out that she had died, she never came back again. She did not appear after she had actually physically passed away.