The Telepathy Tapes: Talk Tracks Ep 9

The Science of Intuition: Consciousness, Intention, and the Edge of Reality

Host: Ky Dickens
Guest: Adam Curry (Inventor, psi researcher, founder of Entangled and the Mind Lamp project)
Release Date: May 11, 2025

Overview

Ky Dickens welcomes Adam Curry to dive deep into the frontiers of psi research, intuition, and the boundaries of consciousness. Together, they explore how scientific experiments hint at the ability of humans—and even animals—to access information beyond space and time, the meaningful role of intention, and the emerging role AI may play in unraveling the mysteries of conscious awareness. Curry shares wild tales from his work, including studies in presentiment, mind-matter interaction, and speculative ideas on collective and global consciousness. The episode bridges skepticism and curiosity, urging listeners to keep an open mind about reality’s hidden layers.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

Adam Curry’s Path to Psi Research

[01:57–04:17]

• Adam traces his fascination with psi and consciousness research back to his teen years, starting with the book Super Learning and then Psychic Discoveries from Behind the Iron Curtain.
• A chance encounter led him to become a “personal remote viewer” and introduced him to a scene of serious academic scientists exploring telepathy and psychokinesis.
• Notable quote:

  "I found that there were remarkable people from very prestigious universities who had basically hit upon a treasure trove of exciting things. And so that kind of gave me purpose." – Adam Curry [04:10]

Presentiment and Precognition Studies

[04:48–07:28]

• Curry highlights “presentiment” studies: experiments that show people’s bodies reacting to emotional stimuli before being exposed to it—suggesting the subconscious “senses” the future.

• Cites examples where animals, like finches and earthworms, also show premonitory reactions to threats.

• Suggests presentiment is an "evolutionary adaptive advantage":

  "...it, I think, reveals an important dimension to our own biology and psychology, which is this attenuation to the immediate future." – Adam Curry [06:05]

What Is Consciousness?

[07:28–10:30]

• Defined as the “first-person perspective”—the subjective, inner experience unique to each being.

• Discusses the Princeton Engineering Anomalies Research (PEAR) Lab experiments—random number generators (RNGs) showing anomalous results influenced by human intention.

• The "Global Consciousness Project" placed RNGs worldwide to detect "shifts" potentially linked to collective consciousness.

  "If consciousness was just an illusion produced by the brain, why does it have this apparent influence relationship with something outside of the brain?" – Adam Curry [09:19]

RNGs, Precognition, and Collective Events

[10:30–13:20]

• Ky brings up famous cases such as RNG anomalies before 9/11, suggesting global events have precursory signatures in collective consciousness.

• Curry’s Entangled app lets users interact with a live quantum RNG network, exploring if psi effects can help with practical predictions (e.g., earthquakes, gene candidates for cancer research).

  "[On 9/11]...The global consciousness random number generators started to show an effect a few hours before the first plane struck. So it was like there was a precognition, a presentiment of this event that was about to unfold." – Adam Curry [10:54]

The Relationship Between Consciousness and Physical Reality

[15:50–17:35]

• Materialist science, Curry argues, has failed to account for consciousness. There is growing academic interest in theories positing consciousness as fundamental—perhaps biology doesn’t produce it, but filters it.

• Cites the Penrose-Hameroff “Orch OR” theory, where cell microtubules may act as quantum devices tuning into a universal field.

  "Biology might not be producing [consciousness], but it is decoding it somehow. It's maybe allowing it to shine through." – Adam Curry [16:45]

The Power—and Limits—of Intention

[18:49–22:12]

• Intention matters for psi abilities, but subconscious beliefs are often more significant than conscious wishes.

• Experimenters’ and participants’ deep-seated beliefs can affect research outcomes—making psi effects tricky to replicate.

• Research shows intention can sometimes affect not just present, but possibly past and future (via “delayed intention” experiments).

  "You have to go down a level or two deeper than intention into the realm of the subconscious mind...it is the subconscious that is connected somehow to the fabric of physical reality." – Adam Curry [19:38]

Entangled: Collective Consciousness App

[25:08–27:58]

• Curry describes Entangled, a psi research app using quantum random bit streams. Users are asked questions; collective intent may statistically predict real-world events (e.g., earthquakes).

• App design taps the subconscious mind and enables mass participation in experiment protocols.

  "...everyone has the capability. It seems to be intrinsic to consciousness itself. Some people are very good. And I think that my opinion is that most people are good some of the time and that feedback is important." – Adam Curry [26:51]

Consciousness, AI, and the Next Breakthrough

[28:03–31:27]

• Predicts AI will help by revealing what consciousness is not—machines mimic human behavior but lack inner subjectivity.

• Suggests a new "psi test" for AI, beyond the Turing Test: if an AI could show presentiment (e.g., respond meaningfully to unpredictable events), it may indicate genuine consciousness.

  "...if you can't operate telepathically like basic humans and animals can, then you're not yet sharing in that divine spark that makes us special." – Adam Curry [29:40]

The Future of Science: Beyond Materialism

[31:27–33:12]

• Host and guest explore the idea that “post-materialist” science—accepting consciousness as a real force—will become mainstream in coming decades.
• Cites Dean Radin:

  "First they ignore you, then they fight you, and then they say you were right. And I knew it all along." – Adam Curry quoting Dean Radin [31:50]

• Compares opportunities in psi research to early adoption in crypto: innovators willing to engage with anomalies now will drive future discoveries.

Mind-Matter Interaction: The Mind Lamp

[33:12–34:59]

• Mind Lamp: physical device colored by RNG stats—users can try “willing” its color to change with intention. Works best when approached playfully; seriousness can impede effectiveness.

• "If you're having fun, often you can enter, you enter flow more easily, to put it one way." – Adam Curry [34:47]

Ethics, ‘Good Vibes’, and Potential for Harm

[34:59–36:08]

• Both anecdotal and research experience suggest psi works best with positive emotions or playful intent.
• "Meaningfulness" attracts psi effects, and negativity or attempts to “game the system” (e.g., gambling) are less likely unless congruent with one’s intent and beliefs.

The Simulation Hypothesis and Reality’s Nature

[36:08–37:51]

• Curry sees value in the simulation hypothesis as metaphor: our consciousness may exist “outside” of physical reality, with the physical world akin to a game.

• “Being too bought in” to the simulation—or physical reality—can limit one’s sense of possibility.

  "If you think that you might be in a simulation...the next question is how do you wake up from the Matrix? Or how do you bend the rules?" – Adam Curry [37:36]

UAPs, Anomalies, and The Pursuit of Truth

[38:16–39:14]

• Connects psi phenomena, UAP research, spontaneous remission, and other anomalies as likely “cousins”—suggesting that pursuing unexplained phenomena can lead to breakthroughs in technology and understanding.
• Emphasizes maintaining flexibility in models of reality.

Societal Transformations from Deeper Consciousness

[39:14–41:30]

• If collective consciousness experiments succeed, Curry hopes for more technological peace, problem-solving, and a shift away from scarcity.

• Distinguishes between "facts" (peer-reviewed evidence for psi) and "truth" (the personal, felt impact of these discoveries).

• Encourages listeners to stay open, skeptical, yet responsive to how such findings might change values or perspectives.

  "Truth, I think, is how you react to those facts. It's something that changes you. You feel it, right? ... And what to do about it is up to each individual." – Adam Curry [40:15]

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “We're kind of coming out of this morass of materialism... The ones that seem to be sticking around are something like: consciousness is somehow fundamental.” – Adam Curry [15:59]
• "Meaningfulness in the experiment... that's true as well for somebody that might have mal intentions." – Adam Curry [35:27]
• “It's always good for people to ask themselves that [how to bend the rules]. I think you don't want to be...totally bought into it. Not too much.” – Adam Curry [37:47]
• “First they ignore you, then they fight you, and then they say you were right.” – Adam Curry quoting Dean Radin [31:50]

Episode Timeline

| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|---------| | 01:57–04:17 | Adam Curry's introduction/story | | 04:48–07:28 | Presentiment and precognition studies | | 07:28–10:30 | Defining consciousness & RNG experiments | | 10:30–13:20 | Global Consciousness Project and RNG anomalies (e.g. 9/11) | | 15:50–17:35 | Consciousness as more fundamental than biology | | 18:49–22:12 | Role of intention and belief (and subconscious) in psi | | 25:08–27:58 | Entangled/Collective Consciousness App described | | 28:03–31:27 | AI, the post-Turing Test, and psi as a measure of machine consciousness | | 31:27–33:12 | The paradigm shift to post-materialist science | | 33:12–34:59 | The Mind Lamp: playful mind-matter interaction | | 34:59–36:08 | Ethics, "good vibes", and gaming psi | | 36:08–37:51 | The simulation hypothesis and consciousness | | 38:16–39:14 | Psi, UAPs, and unexplained phenomena | | 39:14–41:30 | Social transformation and the search for truth |

Tone and Style

The tone is curious, adventurous, and daringly open-minded—“playful” yet grounded in real research. Both Ky and Adam encourage listeners to challenge assumptions, venture into the unknown, and cultivate wonder rather than cynicism.

Summary Takeaways

• Empirical psi research suggests consciousness can access information across time and space—even influenced by collective intention.
• The next scientific revolutions may require embracing consciousness as a real, fundamental part of reality—possibly more basic than matter.
• The line between skepticism and open-mindedness is thin; being playful may be as important to discovery as being disciplined.
• New tests for AI may ask not “can this machine imitate us?” but “does it share our intuitive connection to reality?”
• If consciousness is collective and psi-enabled, embracing it could reshape society’s values and our future.