The Telepathy Tapes – Season 2, Episode 2: Mediumship Under The Microscope
Host: Ky Dickens
Date: October 22, 2025
Episode Overview
This episode of The Telepathy Tapes investigates the phenomenon of mediumship through the lens of scientific research, lived experience, and the extraordinary abilities of non-speakers with autism. Host Ky Dickens explores whether mediumship can truly connect us with the deceased, or whether exceptional psychic ability explains the phenomenon. Through detailed interviews with researchers, practicing mediums (notably Laura Lynn Jackson), and the remarkable story of 11-year-old non-speaker Amelia, the episode challenges listeners to reconsider their beliefs about consciousness, communication beyond speech, and the nature of reality itself.
Key Discussion Points and Insights
1. Introduction & Main Themes
- Season 2 expands from autistic non-speakers’ telepathy to others claiming extraordinary knowing and healing abilities.
- Main inquiry: Can mediumship connect us with the consciousness of those who have died? Or is it all mind-reading (psychic) phenomena?
- Entry point: Amelia, a non-speaking autistic child with apparent telepathic and mediumistic abilities.
“For one young non-speaker named Amelia, that boundary doesn’t seem to exist.” —Ky Dickens (02:34)
2. Rigorous Testing of Mediumship: Forever Family Foundation
The Journey of Bob Ginsberg
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Bob Ginsberg, co-founder of the Forever Family Foundation, was a skeptic until the loss of his daughter led him to investigate afterlife evidence.
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Frustrated by the taboo around afterlife conversations in grief groups, Bob and his wife, Fran, created a supportive organization for both research and bereavement.
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Foundation's mission: Educate the public about consciousness surviving death and support related scientific research.
“Frankly, everybody in the group, that’s all they wanted to talk about…What could give you any more comfort than knowing or believing that your child still existed in some form?”
—Bob Ginsberg (05:55)
Mediumship Testing & Protocol
- The Foundation runs rigorous, blind tests:
- Five sitters per medium, strict scoring on evidence specificity.
- Sitters and mediums divided by a screen; only first names provided to prevent information leakage.
- Volunteer, not paid, certified mediums serve the bereaved.
Laura Lynn Jackson’s Certification
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English teacher turned medium, Laura volunteers for the Foundation and is lauded for her accuracy.
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Recalls the responsibility of her first gallery reading for parents of lost children.
“…They all started giving me messages…all at once as a group...I know that they did that to let me know I wasn’t walking in alone.”
—Laura Lynn Jackson (14:48) -
The healing effect and specificity of the readings profoundly impact bereaved parents.
“Such unique and specific information came through that evening that there’s just no way to experience something like that and not be forever changed by it.”
—Laura Lynn Jackson (15:38)
3. Mediumship in the Laboratory: Windbridge Research Center
Research Protocols and Findings
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Mark Boccuzzi and Dr. Julie Beischel head Windbridge Research, bringing mainstream science rigor.
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Multiple layers of blinding — mediums never speak to clients, only to proxy sitters, via phone.
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Mediums must provide specific, verifiable information with only the deceased’s first name.
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Research suggests mediums can provide above-chance accurate information.
“The big question is, can mediums report accurate and specific information about a discarnate or deceased loved one under controlled laboratory conditions? And the short answer to that question is yes, they can.”
—Mark Boccuzzi (19:24)
Alternative Explanations: Psychic or Spiritual?
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Two main hypotheses:
- Mediums connect with discarnate entities.
- Mediums are highly psychic, reading minds of the living.
“It means there’s no need for a discarnate...which in and of itself is kind of amazing.”
—Mark Boccuzzi (22:30)
4. Comparing Experiences: Psychic Readings vs. Mediumship
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Windbridge studies (phenomenology research) find mediums independently report mediumship feels different from psychic work: “much more loving feeling” emerges during mediumship.
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Laura Lynn Jackson experiences her abilities as distinct channels on her internal “screen.”
“My screen looks like a widescreen TV...Mediumship is always on the right hand side for me. My psychic works on the left.”
—Laura Lynn Jackson (28:09)
5. Neuroscience of Mediumship and Telepathy
Dr. Jeff Tarrant’s Brain Scans
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Dr. Tarrant, once deeply skeptical, studied EEGs of vetted mediums and later, non-speaking telepathic individuals.
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Laura’s brain scan: Psychic readings show increased right occipital (visual) lobe activation and fast brainwaves (gamma, high beta).
Mediumship readings activate the opposite side and show only slow brainwaves (delta, theta)—suggesting a receptive, rather than active, state.“The mediumship was almost like turning everything off...much more of a receptive state...”
—Dr. Jeff Tarrant (32:26) -
The right parietal lobe (“God spot”) goes offline in many mediums during mediumship, possibly allowing ego boundaries to dissolve for connection.
“You’re able to step outside your small ego and connect to something else.”
—Dr. Jeff Tarrant (34:16)
6. Telepathic Non-Speakers: Amelia’s Story
Emergence of Abilities & Validation
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Amelia typifies a new wave of non-speakers claiming not just telepathy, but also mediumship.
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Early evidence: Identifying knowledge and friends (“the Hill”—a shared telepathic space) her parents could not explain.
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Multiple parents of non-speakers validate mutual telepathic relationships between their children.
"As a parent, you’re constantly...is this real? Is this not real?...And then you actually find them...and they validate that it’s been crazy to actually see that these people exist and they have been talking on the Hill…”
—Maura (38:29)
Mediumistic Abilities
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Amelia delivers unsolicited, specific messages to acquaintances from deceased loved ones. These are validated by recipients and frequently reference personal, unknowable details.
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Describes qualitative differences: Telepathy with non-speakers is “louder,” “more dominant”; spirits are “energy,” “distant,” “jolly.” — (41:48)
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The uniqueness: Amelia receives messages even when the bereaved person (sitter) is not present, challenging theories that all mediumship is simply mind-reading.
“Amelia herself explains that it’s the spirits who find her..."
—Ky Dickens (43:31)
7. Scientific Validation: Comparing Brainwaves
Amelia’s EEG
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Dr. Tarrant travels to Wisconsin to record Amelia’s brain during telepathic communication with a distant, living friend.
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Key finding: Amelia’s EEG shows unique activation in the right parietal region – mirroring the “god spot” pattern of vetted mediums performing mediumship.
“Her brain pattern looked remarkably like many of the mediums that I’ve observed before.”
—Dr. Jeff Tarrant (50:57)
Interpretation
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Both telepathy (with living) and mediumship (with the deceased) seem to engage the same neural networks, supporting the idea of a shared mechanism.
“We see that part of the brain...go offline...and it usually doesn’t show up in psychic stuff.”
—Dr. Jeff Tarrant (34:16)
8. Guidance and Ethics for Young Mediums
Laura Lynn Jackson Meets Amelia
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Laura is called in to help Amelia manage the emotional overwhelm of constant, unsolicited connections (especially from living non-speakers).
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Laura enters Amelia’s perceptual space and experiences a unique, all-encompassing field. She even telepathically communicates with a living non-speaker for the first time.
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Laura appeals to her own deceased grandfather to assist, and Amelia validates this nonverbally and later by spelling.
“She brought me into her screen, and it was a screen I had never experienced before...And I saw all these energies demanding her attention...”
—Laura Lynn Jackson (55:32)
Practical Help
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Laura teaches Amelia to set boundaries: “You don’t have to give messages to everyone who wants them.”
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Amelia quickly benefits — able to refuse messages and sleep better.
“Laura really empowered Amelia not only to embrace her gifts and love her gifts, but how to be in control of them.”
—Maura (59:12)
9. Broader Reflections: Ethics, Skepticism, and Healing
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Host Ky Dickens notes: Mediumship has a fraught social history—religiously sanctioned for some, vilified for others. Amelia and Laura’s work disrupts conventions with transparency, humility, and no profit motive.
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The science does not prove the origin, but it validates that something unusual and statistically remarkable is happening.
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The ultimate criterion may not be “is this allowed?” but “what heals?”
“Amelia is inconvenient evidence...offering specific validated messages from the other side that bring relief. There’s no fee, no fame, no agenda but love. She wants sleep more than the spotlight.”
—Ky Dickens (61:18)
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)
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“The more I learned and reading literally, you know, 500 books or more, I was amazed that the mainstream was not aware of the evidence I was reading about.”
—Bob Ginsberg (05:07) -
“They videotaped the whole thing so that a third party could watch it to make sure there was no feeding the mediums or anything like that.”
—Laura Lynn Jackson (12:40) -
“Can mediums report accurate and specific information about a discarnate under controlled laboratory conditions? … Yes, they can.”
–Mark Boccuzzi (19:24) -
“The feeling that I have when I do readings for people too. There’s just profound love.”
—Laura Lynn Jackson (27:46) -
“My screen looks like a widescreen tv...Mediumship is always on the right, psychic works on the left.”
–Laura Lynn Jackson (28:09) -
“One of the things that I think is going on with some of these mediums and psychics is that they are able to temporarily turn off some of those filtering mechanisms so that they do have access to more information.”
—Dr. Jeff Tarrant (33:03) -
“Amelia said it’s jolly giving people the message because when they’re getting the lesson, they see that spirits are real.”
—Maura (40:50) -
“In Amelia’s case...her brain pattern looked remarkably like many of the mediums that I’ve observed before.”
—Dr. Jeff Tarrant (50:57) -
“I have to, like, slow it down and put it into language that I just wish…there was a way…somebody could…download it at the same time.”
—Laura Lynn Jackson (33:45) -
“I think we all have these abilities, and I don’t think you need a medium to connect with your loved ones on the other side.”
—Laura Lynn Jackson (62:03)
Important Timestamps
- 02:52 – Maura describes Amelia’s exposure to spirits
- 04:11 – Bob Ginsberg’s skepticism and loss
- 09:43 – The Foundation’s mediumship testing protocol
- 10:25 – Laura Lynn Jackson’s first encounter with the Foundation
- 14:48 – Laura’s powerful group reading with bereaved parents
- 17:14 – Dr. Mohanna’s testimony as an evidence-based skeptic
- 19:24 – Mark Boccuzzi on Windbridge’s research protocol
- 27:12 – Phenomenology: Mediums experience mediumship as distinct and loving
- 31:18 – Dr. Tarrant’s comparison of psychic vs. mediumship EEG
- 35:45 – Amelia’s three “lanes” of telepathy
- 43:31 – Distinction: Amelia’s mediumship does not rely on sitter’s mind
- 50:57 – EEG similarity between Amelia (telepathy) and vetted mediums (mediumship)
- 55:32 – Laura’s perceptual experience of Amelia’s expansive “screen”
- 59:12 – Laura’s boundary-setting gives tangible help to Amelia
- 62:03 – Laura’s message: The capacity is human, not just “gifted”
- 62:34 – Ky Dickens’ broader reflection on consciousness and creation
Episode Flow and Tone
The episode interweaves scientific interviews, skeptic-to-believer journeys, and intimate, emotional vignettes. It honors the vulnerability and skepticism of bereaved parents, takes lived paranormal claims seriously without sensationalizing, and maintains a warm, curious, and sometimes gently irreverent tone. Listeners are encouraged to keep an open mind while grounded in evidence and compassion.
Conclusion
“Mediumship Under The Microscope” does not seek to prove mediumship as fact but offers compelling evidence, personal testimonies, and scientific analysis that make the simple dismissal impossible. Through the stories of Bob, Laura, and especially Amelia, the episode pushes listeners to question not just what is possible, but what is healing and, ultimately, what it means to be human.
