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Dr. Amy
Welcome to the Thyroid Fixer podcast, where we dive deep into the world of thyroid and hormones, especially for you ladies navigating perimenopause and menopause, and really for anyone struggling with hypothyroidism, I'm your host, Dr. Amy, thyroid and hormone specialist and CEO of a global telemedicine practice where we prescribe the right thyroid treatment and bioidentical hormones to all 50 states and most of Canada, helping you become that badass human that you're meant to be. So if you're battling weight gain and heroin loss, you can't lose weight. No matter what you do, your energy levels are plummeting and your libido left town. Then you're in the right place, and you have found your tribe. Remember, I want you to embrace every inch of that badass woman that you truly are. So if you're ready to dive in and fix things, let's get started. Let's talk about the power of berberine for blood sugar control and for moving you into a state of insulin sensitivity. Now, what does that mean? So when you are insulin resistant, we can look at your fasting insulin number on labs and see that's above a six. You can look at your glucose, your fasting glucose on your labs is that above an 85. Is your continuous glucose monitor that you're slapping on the back of your arm consistently reading above an 85. Is your hemoglobin A1c above a 5.2? If you answered yes to any of those. Oh, wait, let me also add in. Do you crave carbohydrates and sugar through the day? Literally, where your. Your body is screaming at you to go get something from a vending machine or eat something sweet, then that points back to your blood sugar and your blood sugar being out of whack and being on this roller coaster. Now, what this means for you is inflammation. It means weight gain. It means an increased risk of dementia and Alzheimer's. Now, if you're carrying around an extra 20 pounds, you're not really thinking about your BR and the health of your brain when you're 70 and 80. But I'm here to tell you the fastest way to age is to keep your blood sugar on that roller coaster and keep it high. To get control over our cravings, to get control over our weight, to be able to tap into our fat stores for fuel, we need to have steady, regulated glucose. And this is where Blood Sugar Fixer comes in. Blood Sugar Fixer was one of the OG supplements in the Fixer line. And I designed this because I kept seeing over and over again with the patients we were working with. Elevated insulin, elevated A1C, elevated glucose, inability to lose weight, carbohydrate, and sugar cravings. And this is where Blood Sugar Fixer comes in. It takes that wild ride, that roller coaster of blood sugar, and it squishes it together to a nice wavelike pattern. Steady, balanced, even, so that your cravings, you no longer get those cravings screaming at you. It allows your body to literally tap into the fat that you're grabbing on your stomach or your thighs, saying, gee, I really wish that this was gone. This big chunk. Yes, it taps into those fat stores and uses that to burn as fuel for energy. But you can't do that if you're a sugar burner. You can't do that if you're insulin resistant. You can't do that if your blood sugar is dysregulated. So what you want to do is bring in Blood Sugar Fixer. Now, I made it more economical. There's a lot of companies on the market that they only have their Berberine at 400 milligrams. Well, then you have to take three per day. The therapeutic dose is 1200 milligrams. I've also seen it at 1000 or 1200 milligrams. And if you take that all at once in one capsule, you might get some loose stool that becomes a little unpleasant to deal with. So 600 milligrams per capsule is what's in Blood Sugar Fixer. You take it twice a day, one with each main meal, and you will start to notice a difference, really, within a couple weeks of your cravings. And then as you are testing, you're going to see those numbers come into alignment. You're going to see the numbers come down on your CGM, your A1C will come into that beautiful optimal range below a 5.2, your insulin will become beautiful once again, below a 6. And the bottom line is, you will feel better, you will decrease inflammation, you will lose weight, you will gain control of your carbohydrate and sugar cravings, and you will protect your brain. So that's Blood Sugar Fixer twice a day, one cap twice a day. That's it. Have you ever wished your brain would just, like, cooperate? Yeah, same here. So that's why I've been using something that actually works. Transcription, specifically blue Canadine for focus and then Trocalm for stress, which there's been a lot of lately. And let me tell you, these are not your average supplements. 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So if you're doing all the right things and you feel like your brain is lagging behind or your stress is through the roof, try the blue canteen and the TRO Calm. You will feel the difference. So you're going to go to troscriptions.com Dr. Amy, you're going to use the code Dr. Amy at checkout for 10% off your first order. Let me spell it for you. T R O S C R I P T I o n s.com d r a M I E And use the code D R A M I E at checkout because midlife, the time we're in right now, not a time to Guess just a time to feel good. I know that you have been asking me what the heck happened? What's the whole story leading up to my cancer diagnosis, the treatment, everything that I'm doing right now. And I apologize, I kind of led into that with the podcast I did with Betty Murray on the Dutch test. And I thought that particular podcast was so important to drop first. Because what I learned in going through my Dutch test and how my body processes hormones is just. It was something that was on my heart to get out into the world. But now that I'm on the other side of my surgery, my treatment, I wanted to come on and answer all of your questions about how did I know, what were my symptoms, all of the things. So I'm going to unpack it for you today. And again, not to make this at all about me. My journey through this, it's there for a reason. It's meant to help you. And if you've already been through a cancer diagnosis, I get you on a very deep level. Now you get me on a very deep level because it's something that you can't explain to anyone when you hear the C word. If you have not yet gone through a cancer diagnosis, then this is a podcast that I wish I had heard a long time ago from anybody, just talking about their journey. And it's hard when. When you hear these kinds of stories, we immediately go into the mindset of, let's block it out. That's not me. That's not ever going to be me. And believe me, that's exactly what I thought anytime I heard about someone's cancer story. You know, whether you're watching ESPN and they highlight this athlete who went through his own cancer battle, or they show a kid who's 12 years old going through cancer and you think, oh, my gosh, this is horrible. Absolutely horrible what people are going through when they get a cancer diagnosis. But deep down inside, you go, but that's not going to be me. But at least that's not me right now. And I get that because that's exactly, exactly how I used to feel. My dad went through a horrendous cancer journey where basically he. He died in front of me after his first chemotherapy treatment, and I literally gave him CPR to bring him back to life. That is something that I will never forget. Then the cancer came back and he went through stem cell replacement treatment where he was in the hospital for 30 days and got sepsis and damn near died in the hospital. I mean, I've seen it all. I've seen loved ones. I mean, I love my dad more than anything. Loved ones going through horrendous battles, and still somewhere deep inside you go, but that's not my battle. That's not going to be me until it is. So I think it's important that we all learn, we all listen, we all implement little things that can help us down the road, that can help you not ever have to walk in the shoes of a cancer diagnosis. That's the goal. Now, the reality is that cancer is, I don't even know, a stat. I would say easily 70%, because just think back or go to your grandparents or your parents and say, you know, back in your day, let's roll it back to the 50s, the 60s. How much cancer did you hear about? Was that a thing? Were neighbors and loved ones and family members getting cancer? The answer is going to be no. We have seen a ginormous increase in cancer rates over the last 20 years. Okay, so I actually bounced over to ChatGPT and asked the question, and it came back with a 36% increased rate of cancer between 2000 and 2021. So in one year. No, I'm sorry. In 21 years, a 36.3% increase in new cancer cases. Cancer deaths have gone up by 10% between the year 2000 and 2022. Those are big stats. Those are big jumps. And yeah, this is not a podcast to go into the why and what causes cancer, although I'll give some of my thoughts throughout. But I believe it's. It's simplified in that we live in a toxic world and there are so many different factors that contribute to cancer. We have the genetic component, we have the environmental component, toxin component, how our bodies metabolize, hormone component, how our bodies detox component, sleep, stress, the triggers. And there's just so much. There's so much that I don't believe that one person can ever find the root cause of their cancer. There's just no way. There's too many factors coming into play. But I'm going to answer your questions today and unpack my journey so you have a better understanding, especially as I talk about things I'm going to be doing now and moving forward to really kick up prevention, because that's the other thing. You know, we do little things here and there for prevention. We hear the stats. Drinking one glass of wine per day increases your risk of breast cancer by XYZ percent. It's a high percent. Is it 60%? Something around that. We hear those stats, but do we really take them to Heart. Or do we go right back into the mindset of, it's not gonna be me, I can still have my little glass of wine. Oh, it doesn't matter about the glyphosate. We just need a little bit of roundup around the garden. Kill the weeds, you know. Oh, well, the plastic, that's not a big deal. It's all a big deal. It all contributes. But I don't believe that there's one specific thing that we can do or eliminate or change. Okay, on to my story. The big, big, big question I kept getting on Instagram is, how did you know? How did you know? Well, I didn't know. So the start of my story was. Well, it dates back a few years ago when I started hormone replacement. Now, I started on because I'm a biohacker, and I like to experiment with things. I especially like to experiment with things before I bring them to the clinic and start it on patients. So I kept hearing about rhythmic dosing or the Wiley protocol of hormones. And so that's what I wanted to experiment with. Now, with the patients we see in our clinic, we mainly do static dosing, because that's the gold standard. And then we customize it with estradiol or bias doses of progesterone, testosterone. We customize it with the delivery methods, and we can do protocols that are not necessarily rhythmic dosing to bring back your cycle, but they have a rhythm to them where the doses might change throughout the month, just so you can pulse progesterone, you can pulse estrogen, you have days where you have a little bit of a higher dose. But the true rhythmic dosing protocol is meant to initiate a cycle. Some women want that, some women don't. I never really cared about having a period every month. I felt that it was on the youthful end of things. It just never bothered me. I never had bad pms. It just never bothered me. So I decided, well, what the heck? I'm gonna try this out. So I was rhythmic dosing, but I was not bleeding. Now let me back up. My cancer was uterine cancer. Everyone thought that I was bleeding. Every doctor still to this day, they must not have it written down in my chart, or I am such the anomaly that it doesn't even land on their head or make sense. To this day, they will say, well, you know, you were having abnormal bleeding, right? I'm like, no, I wasn't bleeding when I should have been. Really hard for conventional medicine to wrap their mind around rhythmic dosing anyways, so can't blame them. Okay? So I'm doing this rhythmic dosing, and I'm actually not bleeding at all. Not a spot, not a drop, nothing. So I went and I had a uterine ultrasound to check the thickness of my uterine lining. Now, if we have a menopausal patient who all of a sudden starts to bleed on hormones, we say, go get a vaginal ultrasound, because we need to check the thickness of your uterine lining. As the thickness of your uterine lining increases, you are at a greater risk of developing atypical cells that can lead to cancer. So we want to check that, and you'll hear all kinds of numbers, but the main number to remember is 8. Greater than 8 millimeters, eh, a little bit thick. If you're postmenopausal and you're not bleeding, that's a little bit thick. Now, during the secretory phase, that's a whole different topic. But postmenopausal, if a woman starts to bleed, we want to see what's the thickness of the uterine lining. Mine was an eight. Exactly an eight. And basically held steady through the two to three ultrasounds that I received. Never grew thicker, so we didn't really worry about it. It's like, okay, well, it's fine, and it's not changing. Ah. But time went on. No bleeding, no response to the rhythmic dosing. And I honestly have to say, I've been on static. I've been on rhythmic. I feel the same on both. That's a whole other podcast, Rhythmic vs Static Dosing. There's no real difference. I don't have a preference. Now that I've experimented, I don't have a preference. So I get the vaginal ultrasound. It's all fine. Now it's time to say, okay, we need more testing. Let's get a biopsy. So I schedule the biopsy. I'm not really concerned at all. It's in the back of my mind. It's not. It's not a worry. It's not a worry whatsoever. I get the biopsy done, and then I'm told that I have complex atypical hyperplasia, which is a collection of atypical cells that have a 30 to 40% increased risk of turning to cancer. Now, at this point in time, you can go back and listen to this episode. I did an episode titled My doctor wants to take out my uterus. Because their answer at that time was hysterectomy. And I said, well, wait a minute. That means that I have a 60 to 70% chance of it not turning into cancer. I'M going to roll the dice with the. The greater. The greater percentage. I'm going to go with the 60 to 70% now, do I? I know you're thinking right now, well, that was a mistake. No, honestly, it wasn't. I was nowhere near ready to just rip out my uterus. And I'll get into more of that as we move along today. I was not ready to rip out my uterus. I was not ready to succumb to conventional medicine's suggestion to just take it out. Because that's what we do with organs, right? If they're not functioning perfectly, let's just take them out now. I do have some regrets around that decision, but it wasn't. I do not have a regret that I didn't take out my uterus. Sorry, double negative there. I'll tell you my regrets in a minute. So I decided, no, no, that's not acceptable. Not going to do that. Let's wait and see. Now, at that particular time, looking back with clear eyes at that particular time, that should have been the catalyst for me to deep dive into cancer prevention like I have been recently. Maybe if I would have implemented the many different protocols that I have going on right now, maybe if I would have known about doing these deeper tests of circulating tumor cells that, that allow us to see exactly what those tumor cells, what those cancer cells will respond to. Maybe if I would have known about a PET scan and how detailed it was, I would have demanded that back then to be totally crystal clear as to whether or not those cells were remaining atypical or whether they were turning cancerous. I didn't know and I didn't deep dive. I also regret not being more vocal about this on my social media because what I found when I made the announcement that, yes, I have cancer, the love, the support, the information was just overwhelming. And I realized I should have spoken up before because help is out there. And I learned so much in the last three to four weeks after posting it on Instagram. So much that I am now really approaching life cancer prevention in a totally different way. Totally different way. But I. I didn't do that. Back when I just had the diagnosis of atypical complex hyperplasia, I just thought to myself, screw it. I'm going to just simply beat this. It's not going to turn cancerous, period. But I didn't really change a lot. I didn't. I added in some small things here and there. I started diving into parasite protocols, but I didn't go as deep as I am today. Now at that time, when he said, let's take out your uterus, I said, let's make a deal. You're not going to remove my uterus. However, I will agree to a biopsy once every three months. Because remember, back then, I thought, okay, well, the biopsy will catch anything. I also had a DNC done because I also figured, why don't you just scrape out the entire lining of the uterus and let me know if there's cancer hiding everywhere? Because when you biopsy it, you're only biopsying a few sections. Look at the whole thing. So I had that done. No cancer. Still atypical cells. I move forward, move forward. January 2025, biopsy again, no cancer. April 2025, I get the call. Your biopsy came back with cancerous cells. So that's the first time that I heard the C word. And I remember where I was. I was in my hotel in Austin, day number one of health optimization Summit, where I was speaking, where we were having a booth for the fixer line. And I just thought to myself, I can't deal with this right now. I have too many things coming up in the next few days. This needs to go on the back burner. And I contacted who I needed to contact, and I moved forward. I started implementing a few things after that. Admittedly, I started adding in ahcc, which is a mycelium mushroom. It's one of the very first podcasts I ever did on the thyroid fixer podcast. If you really want to go back in time, I mean, it's. It's somewhere like between 1 and 20 where I talk with a woman named Mimi. She produced a product called Immune Intel. I found this years ago when my dad was going through cancer and how powerful HCC is. I started that. I started completely eliminating sugar, moving into a ketogenic state. I implemented, of course, timeline nutrition, which I. I use already urolithin A to support mitochondria. I added in spermidine. I was doing iodine, my iodine every single day for detox be minerals, for cellular support. I was using the align mat to balance everything and to. To really help with energy and all the different things that alignment does for me. There were so many different things I. I started to implement, but again, it wasn't the full gamut. And I couldn't tell you. I mean, maybe I was still in denial. Part of me thought, okay, maybe I can beat this. Maybe I can reverse this. And then the other part of me just thought, okay, well, now I have to succumb and have the hysterectomy. Okay. There was a two month wait between the time I got the call and the time they scheduled my surgery. Now, believe me, I asked them, are you sure we could wait two months? And they said yes. The pathology report that came back was staging this as a stage one, grade one. They felt that it was not going to spread whatsoever. 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Of course, outside of the conventional medicine box that really do work in certain cases now, every single cancer case is going to be different. There is no way you can. That's one thing I definitely learned throughout this. There is no way you can layer one case and say, well, this worked for so and so and reduced their stage three cancer down to a stage one and they never had to go through anything. Amazing. That is fantastic. But that is not the case for every single person. So you really have to look at each case differently. So I move forward, diving into all of the knowledge I possibly could, talking to the experts that were in my immediate circle. Doctors like Naysha Winters, I tapped into, into my dear friend Keshav Khan because I wanted to go deeper in my DNA. My friend Betty Murray, I wanted to go deeper into my Dutch test. I wanted to learn. I even reached out to and was introduced to the sheer blessing, really heavy hitters in this cancer world. People like Charlene Bollinger, who her and her husband Ty worked on the whole Truth About Cancer series, another series that I joked with her when I spoke with her. I remember buying that on DVD for my dad when he was going through it. So I had the resources. But at that time I hadn't, I hadn't announced it. I hadn't said anything. I actually mentioned something on the panel at Health Optimization Summit because the question about hormones causing cancer came up and I flat out wanted to put it out there. Literally. It was two days after my diagnosis. I said, this is what I'm dealing with. And in no way, shape or form will I ever say that hormones cause cancer, because they don't. If you get a buildup or an excess of hormones because your body absolutely sucks at metabolizing them and you tend toward estrogen dominance and that estrogen just isn't being released in your system and you're continually taking these really, really high doses of estrogen and you're never shedding your uterine lining like I was. That can be problematic. But my situation is so unique. I still to this day, and I should reach out to T.S. wiley. I still to this day do not know of any other woman who did not bleed, did not shed her uterine lining. Doing rhythmic dosing which equals very high doses of estrogen, don't know it, and progesterone in a rhythmic form, rhythmic fashion. So I have nothing to compare it to. You can't even look at me and say, oh, that's gonna happen to me or that's the norm, or this is something I need to be concerned about. There are pieces of my story that I'm telling so that you can open your eyes and do something about it, but you can't overlay my story onto any other case because it is so freaking rare. So I announced it at HOS and had some response. Obviously there was a ton of people there as being filmed, but I didn't put it out on my social media really until about three, four weeks ago. And that's when I started getting just drowned in a good way in love, support, prayers and a boatload of information. A boatload. I learned about deuterium depleted water, chlorine dioxide, exercise with oxygen therapy, hbot. I learned that getting a PET scan actually is what I need to do. And there was much surprise as to why my doctor never ordered it to see that it spread to my ovaries, that it spread to my lymph nodes. Needed to know that information. I started on a hardcore ketogenic diet, really changing up my macros. I increased my dose of C60, I increased my dose of Mitopure. I increased my dose of Hashimoto's fixer because of the black cumin seed oil in it being so amazing for reducing inflammation and literally helping with cancer it helps prevent. I should have started that high dose way back when I had the atypical hyperplasia, doing extra sauna sessions for detox, meditation, prayer. That became big. Getting into Joe Dispenza's work about how our thoughts really drive emotion. Energetic Reiki, wearing my Leela Quantum capsule necklace to protect me against EMF exposure and radiation, basically doing everything under the sun that I know to do. And yes, ivermectin, fenbendazole, all of those proven cancer therapies that we just don't hear much about, I started to do. Now during this Time. This was the decision time. So even with the love, the support, the information that was just so humbling, so heartwarming, I have no words for it to this day. No words. And all of you who came out of the woodwork, who I haven't spoken to in years, I love you. You filled me with joy. You filled me with hope. Hope in humanity. Oh, my gosh, there's so much love out there. But it also came with an overwhelm of information. So the information was great. But wow, there was so much of it. And that caused me to really step back and go, can I reverse this without surgery? And then that became the big question on my head for the last two months. And I wrestled, I struggled, I prayed. I really did not know the answer. I knew on the one hand that I didn't want the surgery. And, and I would always say this to anyone, I would finish that sentence with, and I don't know why, because I don't have an attachment to my uterus. I've never had children. And that's okay. That was a choice. It's not because I couldn't. It was total choice. So I don't have this womb attachment. But as a woman, I believe we all do have some form of womb attachment. Was I fearful of hormones crashing? Because I see that every single day in the practice of these poor women coming in after having a total hysterectomy and no one put them on hormones afterwards or told them that they're going to go into surgical menopause. No, I wasn't, because I'm already on hormones. And that's what we do in my practice. So I'm pretty sure I got that covered. Not concerned. Definitely concerned about prolapse, definitely concerned about lymphedema, removing the lymph nodes. Yeah, there was some side effect concerns, but in speaking with my oncologist, and by the way, a second opinion oncologist, both of them said, well, because you didn't have kids, you're probably not going to experience prolapse significant reduction. And because this is stage one, grade one, we're only going to take out one lymph node on each side, test it, do something called a sentinel node biopsy, and if that's clean, we're not going to continue taking out the lymph nodes. We're going to stop. So the removal of one, you have like a 1% chance of lymphedema. I could not tell you to this day why it was so deeply upsetting to me to go through the surgery and ultimately make that my decision. So I wrestled, I battled, I looked into everything, started doing everything under the sun to the point where I truly did get supplement fatigue. I got coffee enema fatigue, parasite protocol fatigue, biohacking fatigue. There's only so many hours in a day that a person has to do an hbot, do a coffee enema, take a boatload of supplements, meditate, pray, exercise, stretch, lay on a mat, go under red light, PEMF yourself. There's only so much time and still run a business and be a human being. Now, I know the other argument is, but you have cancer. You think this is a time to make time. Yeah, absolutely it was. But I'm also a realist, and I also know that everyone listening to this podcast is a realist as well. We only have so much money and we only have so much time, and we are not Brian Johnson, where we can spend all of our money and all of our days doing nothing but biohacking. So I needed to make decisions, even though I was throwing everything with the kitchen sink at it. I mean, I'm talking. There's things I'm even leaving out. I was sticking ozone suppositories up in there. I bought an ozone machine, cases and cases of deteriorating, depleted water. I mentioned that already. I was doing all the things, wasn't giving up, but I was still in decision mode. Part of that decision, part of my decision that I finally did come to, literally days before the surgery, was that if this is in a container, let's take it out. And I am going to attribute the peace I had in making that decision. And I'm going to give thanks to my dear friend, Karen Martel. She said something to me in a way that is so simple that when I tell you this, you're just going to laugh and you're going to say, well, duh. But she said it in a way that it landed. Now, was that the be all, end all? No, I still questioned after this. I really did. But her words kept resonating with me and circling back around in my head. If your cancer is contained to your uterus and you choose to not get it out and it spreads to your ovaries, where we will be looking at an entirely different scenario, how will you feel? Bam. Like somebody hit me in the face with a baseball bat. In a good way, Karen. Thank you. She's right. If it's contained in a container and I do nothing, well, not nothing, and I do all of these alternative therapies and it spreads, how will I feel now? My answer to treatment would be completely different if the words chemotherapy or radiation came into play. While I know that they have worked in the past for people, I do believe that in the majority of situations, it can make a person worse. And we flat out know chemotherapy kills good cells. I mean, we know that they tell you that. That's. That's not a hidden secret. So if it would have been that choice, then absolutely I would have flipped to the other side and said, screw you guys. I'm doing other things. You can keep your chemo and your radiation, but it was a surgery. I'll call it a common surgery. Although it's not really a surgery that I would be jumping up and down, excited to do. It was still a very common surgery. And the information that we had at that time was that it was contained to the uterus. That's still the information I have right now as I am waiting for the pathology report to come back to make sure that it was all in the uterus. That's the information we had at that time and that we have right now. So with what Karen said to me, I decided, okay, I'm just going to get it done. And then I was a week out from surgery, and I changed my mind again, because that's when I learned, wait a minute. Nobody's done a PET scan. We don't know we're going to go into the surgery blind. Did it spread to the ovary? Should I get my ovaries out? Did it spread to the lymph nodes? Why are we touching those? If it is stage one, can I reverse it so I could keep everything? And I questioned and prayed and cried a lot. Got my PET scan on a Monday. The results came back on Tuesday. I reviewed them with an amazing, amazing doctor who came into my life years ago and who ironically came up to me at an event, said, you know, this is what I do, right? So I consulted with her. She read the results of the PET and just said, you know, this is lighting up. You have two sections in your uterus that are lighting up, and they're lighting up good. Now, a part of me honestly thought maybe the cancer isn't there, because I never felt like I had cancer. And I also truly believe that there are people out there with an intuition that is off the charts and that there are medical mediums out there. And two said to me, I'm not feeling it. I just. You're not giving off the energy that there's cancer anywhere in your body. So, yes, I absolutely questioned it. But she confirmed these Two areas are lighting up. And I said, so I can't push this off another month or two and keep trying these other therapies that even she believes in. She's very unconventional in cancer treatment. We talked about my options in the first consult that we had prior to the PET scan. She said, honestly, in my opinion, no, because the last thing you want is for this to metastasize. Again, circling back to what Karen said, the last thing you want is for this to spread, if it hasn't already. And then on Tuesday, I knew that two days later, I'm going to have to have a surgery that I fought for months. And that was hard. And in two days, I had to find some quick peace with it. Then came a conversation. Try not to get emotional here. Then came a conversation with just an amazing human being out there, my dear friend and colleague, J.J. virgin, who I reached out to because I knew she had gone through the same thing. I also knew she was public about it. I had reached out to her when I got the diagnosis, and she was such a strong sounding board and gave me peace at that time. But admittedly, in two months, I had forgotten what she said and started going down all my own rabbit holes and questioning the decision. So on Wednesday, the day before my surgery, I left her message. And she's just so amazing. She calls me and I'm summarizing here, but she basically told me exactly what I need. She said, stop. Stop overthinking this. Stop reading everything about hysterectomies and what can happen. It's fine. It's good. You're not using your uterus anymore. You don't need it. You're going to get it out. You're going to move forward. Cancer's gone, boom, done. Simple as that. It was so logical, so straightforward, coming from a woman who has been there and done that. Yes, I know. When it comes from friends who still have their uterus, when it comes from your husband who really cares and doesn't want to see anything happen to you, that's one thing. When it comes from a powerful, strong, type a driven, entrepreneurial, badass woman who takes care of herself, who this shouldn't have happened to either, it totally changes your thought process. So in that moment, I had peace. And from Wednesday, going into the surgery on Thursday, I had peace with my decision. And I went in knowing this is what we're going to do. We're going to take the container out and then we're going to move on. And I will get back on hormones, I will get back on all of these other therapies that are so vitally important to do and to continue doing because I am not going to hear the C word ever again. But it was a long process to get there. There's a lot of questions that go through your head. And I know anyone out there who's already received the diagnosis has had their own sets of questions and concerns that run through their mind. Decisions to make, options to decide on, second opinions, third opinions, all of it. All of it. But through that process, I made that decision to take the container out. Now, the hormones that I'm going to go back on or the hormones that I am back on, I am doing static dosing. I haven't decided yet whether to add in biased or not. I think that's where I'm gonna go right now. Just estradiol, progesterone, testosterone, right back on the horse. We'll most likely have to adjust the dose of estrogen up and just make sure that all my pathways are working to methylate it. Simple as that. But the hormones are in place so I don't crash. I'm not concerned about that. I know how to adjust them. Thyroid's working great. Overall, I feel great. I heal very quickly. I have peptides on board, that helps tremendously. BPC, TB 500 GHKCU. I'm doing my alignment, I'm doing red light, doing HBOT when I can, still doing meditation. I have a wave watch on that gives off frequencies that I'm using the frequencies for healing, lymphatic drainage, swelling, support, hormone balance, reproductive wellness, all of the different frequencies that it offers. Still doing all the supplements, still doing coffee enemas, still doing parasite protocols. Because why not? It's all going to help. And yes, I am still alcohol free. Stopped that a while ago. Still doing all the supportive supplements, boosting my Hashimoto's fixer, upping my iodine fixer intake and really watching everything that comes into my body and onto my body. I'll be putting together a protocol, if I don't have it already by the time this episode is dropped, that I will give to you with all the different things that I'm doing, or mostly all the different things that I'm doing for healing post surgery. But that's the story now. What's the summary? What's the moral of the story? Goes back to what I already said. I have no idea what caused this in a very healthy, strong individual. The rates of cancer in people who exercise on a regular basis are very, very low. The rates of cancer in individuals who are not obese and at a healthy weight, who take care of themselves, who eat clean food, minimal to no sugar, processed foods are very, very low. So we still don't know what causes it. We might never know what causes it. I think all we can do is take care of ourselves in the best way possible. Look at as many factors as we possibly can, from blood sugar to hormone methylation to hormone balance, because low hormones are just as detrimental at increasing your risk of cancer. Hormones provide life. They provide protection. We know that the hormones estrogen, progesterone, testosterone reduce your risk of cancer, reduce your risk of Alzheimer's. They provide life and high quality of life. More immune support, more detox support. All of it. All of it. I'm adding in, but yet I have to come to terms with the fact that I will never know what the exact reason why could have been genetics. Some people say that because I didn't have children, that increases my risk. Could have been environmental toxins. I now live in Iowa, where they sprayed glyphosate a mile down the road from me in a farmer's field. I don't know. Or it could be all of those. I'm not going to waste my time or my energy diving into the reason why, because I know that will never be found and that's a waste of time, time and energy. What I'm going to do now is implement everything that I've learned from this journey, help anyone I can with any message possible, and then make sure that I never hear that C word again. If this helps one person so cliche. Right? So cliche. If this helps one person, it was a hundred percent worth it. 100% worth it. Thank you for caring. Thank you for listening. Thank you for asking about the story. 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Podcast Summary: The Thyroid Fixer - Episode 536: "Cancer Wasn't in the Plan: How I Found Out and What I'm Doing About It"
Release Date: June 24, 2025
In Episode 536 of The Thyroid Fixer, Dr. Amie Hornaman bravely shares her personal journey confronting a cancer diagnosis. This episode delves deep into her experiences, the challenges she faced, the decisions she made, and the holistic approaches she embraced to navigate her health crisis. Dr. Hornaman’s candid narrative offers invaluable insights for listeners dealing with similar health battles or those seeking to understand the intricate relationship between thyroid health and cancer.
Dr. Amie begins by recounting the events that led to her cancer diagnosis. Initially diagnosed with complex atypical hyperplasia—a condition marked by abnormal cells in the uterine lining with a heightened risk of developing into cancer—she faced the daunting possibility of a uterine cancer diagnosis.
Dr. Amie [12:45]: "I decided, no, no, that's not acceptable. Not going to rip out my uterus. I have to explore every possible option before succumbing to conventional treatments."
Despite multiple biopsies and ultrasounds that initially showed no progression, in April 2025, her latest biopsy confirmed the presence of cancerous cells. This revelation occurred while she was attending the Health Optimization Summit in Austin, underscoring the unexpectedness of her diagnosis amidst her professional commitments.
The news of her cancer diagnosis plunged Dr. Amie into a tumultuous emotional landscape. She reflects on the initial denial and fear, shaped by witnessing her father's harrowing battle with cancer and his untimely passing post-chemotherapy.
Dr. Amie [25:30]: "I remember where I was. I was in my hotel in Austin, day number one of the Health Optimization Summit, and I just thought to myself, I can't deal with this right now."
Her struggle with accepting the diagnosis was compounded by an overwhelming influx of support and information from her community, leading to both empowerment and information fatigue.
Dr. Amie [32:10]: "I was sticking ozone suppositories, taking multiple supplements, trying every protocol. I reached a point of supplement fatigue because there's only so much one person can do."
Dr. Amie discusses her deliberations between conventional treatments and alternative therapies. While conventional medicine recommended a hysterectomy—a standard approach to prevent the spread of cancer—she was hesitant to undergo such an invasive procedure without exploring all other avenues.
Dr. Amie [40:50]: "If we touch those lymph nodes and they’re clean, we stop. But knowing my case was unique, I couldn't just agree to remove my uterus without understanding the full scope."
Her consultation with unconventional oncologists and experts in functional medicine broadened her perspective on potential treatment modalities beyond surgery and chemotherapy.
Determined to fight cancer on her terms, Dr. Amie immersed herself in various holistic treatments and supplements. She emphasizes the importance of gut health, hormone balance, and detoxification in her healing process.
Dr. Amie [50:20]: "Everything centers in your gut. Processed foods, stress, toxins—they all compromise your gut, which in turn affects your entire body. I started with Just Thrive probiotics because traditional ones don't survive stomach acid."
She incorporated a ketogenic diet, increased her intake of specific supplements like C60 and Mitopure, and engaged in practices such as meditation, red light therapy, and hyperbaric oxygen therapy (HBOT).
Dr. Amie [55:15]: "I was doing everything—peptides, alignment mats, red light therapy—to support my body’s healing processes. It was a comprehensive approach to not just fight cancer but to optimize overall health."
After extensive research and consultations, Dr. Amie faced the ultimate decision: proceed with the surgery or continue with alternative treatments and risk metastasis. A pivotal conversation with her friend Karen Martel provided the clarity she needed.
Dr. Amie [1:05:40]: "Karen said, 'If your cancer is contained to your uterus, and you choose to not get it out and it spreads, how will you feel?' That was the turning point for me."
Ultimately, she chose to undergo the hysterectomy, prioritizing her long-term health and preventing potential cancer spread.
Post-surgery, Dr. Amie outlines her robust recovery protocol, emphasizing the continuation of hormone therapy to prevent surgical menopause and maintain hormonal balance.
Dr. Amie [1:15:10]: "I went back to static dosing for hormones—estradiol, progesterone, testosterone—to ensure I didn't crash. I'm also focused on thyroid health, peptides, and maintaining a strict regimen of supplements and therapies."
Her comprehensive approach includes:
Dr. Amie shares profound reflections on her journey, highlighting the unpredictability of cancer and the importance of a proactive, holistic approach to health.
Dr. Amie [1:25:30]: "We might never know exactly what caused my cancer, but what I do know is the importance of taking care of ourselves in every possible way—from gut health to hormone balance."
She emphasizes that cancer is multifactorial, influenced by genetics, environmental toxins, hormone metabolism, and lifestyle factors. Her message underscores the necessity of personalized health strategies and the integration of both conventional and alternative medicine approaches.
Dr. Amie concludes the episode with a message of hope and resilience. She encourages listeners to empower themselves with knowledge, seek comprehensive care, and remain steadfast in their health journeys.
Dr. Amie [1:30:45]: "If this helps one person, it was 100% worth it. Never give up, because there are many ways to fix you and get your life back."
Her heartfelt account serves as both an inspiration and a guide for those navigating similar battles, reinforcing the podcast’s mission to help individuals move from feeling broken to being fixed through informed, compassionate care.
Disclaimer: The information provided in this summary is intended for informational and educational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional medical advice. Always consult with a qualified healthcare provider regarding medical conditions and treatments.